The Apprentice UK S02E11 (2006)
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00:00Previously on The Apprentice.
00:02The cars are going to pick you up at 3.45 in the morning.
00:05It takes you to Heathrow Airport.
00:07You'll need to pack your bag for one week away.
00:10The teams were flown to Istanbul where they took to the high seas.
00:14With a captive audience of two and a half thousand passengers,
00:18the teams had to dream up a money-making attraction.
00:21It was time to go to Istanbul.
00:24With a captive audience of two and a half thousand passengers,
00:27the teams had to dream up a money-making attraction.
00:30I'd like to take this opportunity to invite you to our open deck fun day.
00:35Project manager Saeed didn't enjoy his fun day.
00:41The whole fun day idea I came up with, you've completely taken half of it now.
00:44Teammate Ruth was hard to control.
00:47What I'm trying to say is, let's work as a team.
00:49And criticised her project manager.
00:51For me, it's not slick enough.
00:53Hi there guys, welcome to Latin American Chance to Dance.
00:56Paul promoted his dance competition well.
01:01And waltzed to victory.
01:04Velocity, you are the winners today.
01:07In the boardroom, Sir Alan pointed out the fatal flaw.
01:10Did you read these bloody rules or not?
01:13Saeed and Ruth fought for their lives.
01:16Why do you look so worked up? What's the matter with you?
01:17Are we professionals or are you just going to lose the plot?
01:19No, I don't need to lose the plot.
01:20Talk to me nicely and I'll talk to you.
01:21If you talk to me like that I won't address you.
01:22It's as simple as that.
01:23You are just looking for an exit plan again.
01:25But this time, Saeed couldn't save himself.
01:28Despite some flashes of genius, you're too much of a risk for me.
01:32Saeed, you're fired.
01:35Saeed became the tenth casualty of the boardroom.
01:38Now four remain to fight for the chance to become The Apprentice.
01:53Back at the house, Michelle, Paul and Ansel wait to find out
01:57if it'll be Ruth or Saeed who returns from the boardroom.
02:01I think when they get in the boardroom,
02:03I think Saeed will talk himself out instantly.
02:05I don't think Ruth will have to do anything.
02:07I think he'll get in, he'll have wound himself up so much,
02:09he'll just be like a coiled spring and he's just going to go.
02:12Ruth said things that don't add up to what Saeed said,
02:15so there'll definitely be a kick-off.
02:17I just think that Ruth will give him a bit of a thrashing.
02:20I just think that Ruth will give him a bit of a polite nudge.
02:23I'd much rather Saeed came back.
02:34He's at the top of the door.
02:46Hey!
02:49You look bad.
02:53Very little surprise.
02:56Very little surprise.
02:58I got the kick in. It was me that got the kick in.
03:00No way!
03:01Oh, yes way.
03:02He basically said to me,
03:04Ruth, why shouldn't I fire you?
03:06And I went, what? There you go.
03:08And then he went, Saeed, why shouldn't I fire you?
03:10Saeed went like that.
03:11And he said, Ruth, unfortunately, I don't like what you did.
03:13And I said, you're wrong.
03:14What you did being what? Getting the budget thing wrong?
03:17I didn't.
03:18Is that what he thought?
03:19Yeah, he thought that I didn't tell Saeed in order.
03:21Saeed basically went, she never told me.
03:23This is her...
03:24You little liar.
03:26And he went, Saeed, unfortunately,
03:28I'm going to have to let you go.
03:30I've never been so nervous in all my life.
03:33But then there were four.
03:40Alright.
03:42My goodness.
03:44Who's this? Who's this?
03:46Who's this, this time of night?
03:49Cheers. Bye.
03:52That's the wrong number.
03:53Number one.
03:54We're off to the boardroom in the morning.
03:56Cars are coming to pick us up at half past seven.
04:08With just one week to go before Sir Alan picks his apprentice,
04:12only four candidates remain.
04:15Where's your conker?
04:17In my pocket.
04:18Quick roll before we go.
04:23Good luck, bird.
04:25I'm the apprentice, but I can't go into anything without a conker.
04:28No, well, that's how lucky conkers are, isn't it?
04:34Over the past ten weeks,
04:36the candidates have had to work together in teams.
04:39When they faced Sir Alan in the boardroom,
04:42they knew someone would get fired.
04:45But this morning, Sir Alan has summoned them
04:48to set a more personal and individual challenge.
04:56Ten years ago, Michelle Dewberry worked as a checkout girl
05:00at her local supermarket.
05:02Today, as a telecoms consultant,
05:04she already earns more than Sir Alan is offering his apprentice.
05:08For me, it's not about the money.
05:10It's all about the opportunity to work with somebody like Sir Alan,
05:13someone who's very, very motivated,
05:15someone that I can learn a tremendous amount from.
05:17Clearly, he's not an option. I will not fail.
05:21And Saul Henry's career as a professional footballer at Millwall
05:25ended after an injury.
05:27Since then, he's become an award-winning sales manager.
05:31Am I the best salesperson? I don't know.
05:33The tasks I've done quite well, I've done the best I can.
05:36I think you can't do any more.
05:38I'm just coming to this house and doing myself justice.
05:40And I have. There's four of us and there's only one job.
05:48Headhunter Paul Tulip has been the most successful candidate.
05:52He's won seven out of the past ten tasks.
05:55Everyone who knows me has said to me,
05:57I've never met anyone like you in my life.
05:59And I've never met anyone like me
06:01and I don't think the world could cope with two people like me.
06:03There's only ever going to be one Paul Tulip
06:05and that's what Alan Sugar can get now.
06:07And if he doesn't get it, someone else will.
06:09So it's not, why do I want to work for him?
06:11It's, why should I work for him?
06:15Sales manager Ruth Badger has been on the losing team
06:18seven out of ten times.
06:20But she's consistently been one of the top performers.
06:24I'm an ambitious person.
06:25I wouldn't let anything get in my way in order to get my goal.
06:28I have to succeed at whatever I do.
06:30I am the apprentice.
06:32I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:37I am the apprentice.
06:38I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:39I am the apprentice.
06:40I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:41I am the apprentice.
06:42I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:43I am the apprentice.
06:44I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:45I am the apprentice.
06:46I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:47I am the apprentice.
06:48I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:49I am the apprentice.
06:50I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:51I am the apprentice.
06:52I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
06:53I am the apprentice.
06:54I think Sir Alan would make a huge mistake if he didn't employ me.
07:15Good morning.
07:16Good morning Sir Alan.
07:17OK, ten weeks gone.
07:18We're into our eleventh week.
07:19We started out with 10,000 people that applied for this position.
07:24There was 14 of you originally.
07:25Now we're down to the last four.
07:27That in itself is a great achievement.
07:30Today you're going to go through an interviewing process.
07:33I've got three people who I trust that are going to interview you.
07:39The purpose of these interviews today is for these guys to really get to know who you are.
07:45These people know what they're doing.
07:47They've had lots of employees in front of them.
07:49They know what I expect out of people.
07:51They know me very, very well.
07:53And after listening to them, I will make a decision as to who is staying and who's not.
07:59And here's the big difference here today.
08:02Two of you are going to get fired.
08:07So off you go.
08:09I'll see you back here in the boardroom this afternoon.
08:12OK?
08:14Each candidate will be interrogated by Sir Alan's trusted advisers.
08:34Claude Littner has worked with Sir Alan for over 20 years.
08:38He's acted as his global troubleshooter and is no stranger to hiring and firing.
08:45Borden Katchuk is chief executive of Viglen Computers.
08:49After 20 years' service, he knows better than anyone what Sir Alan is looking for.
08:56Paul Kemsley runs a leading property company.
08:58A close friend of Sir Alan, he's always on the lookout for a good deal and hopes to unearth
09:03one today.
09:06All four candidates have had to supply their inquisitors with their CV, application form
09:11and a personal statement explaining why they should become Sir Alan's apprentice.
09:16Hi.
09:17Hi there.
09:18You all right?
09:19Hi there.
09:20Yeah.
09:21Cancel.
09:22Yeah.
09:23Pleased to meet you.
09:24Good to see you.
09:26When I see CVs of myself, either this person has got an ego that is much too big or they
09:33really are fantastic.
09:34Twenty-five years old, currently earning $25,000 a year, hardly setting the world on
09:40fire, are you?
09:41The reality is it's not a game.
09:43It's a real job.
09:44It's a real position and you'll be thrown into the lion's den.
09:49You think you're batting out your debts here today?
09:53This application form, the personal statement and the CV is probably one of the worst I've
09:57ever seen in my 35 years.
09:59OK.
10:00OK?
10:01It sounds as though you're pretty full of yourself.
10:04You're somebody who is working in recruitment at the moment, although, frankly, it doesn't
10:07look like you've done a day's work in your life.
10:09Just take me through why you feel that, you know, you're in any way suited to be Alan
10:15Sugar's apprentice.
10:16I've actually been project manager twice and won twice, the only person to do it.
10:19I've been on the winning team seven times, that's the most anyone's ever done it.
10:22No one's ever taken me into the boardroom.
10:24Everyone else has been in.
10:25That is, you know, a fantastic accolade.
10:27You've done very well to get down to the last four, haven't you?
10:30You're probably seen as it appears you're simply a salesman, I mean, that's what you
10:34are.
10:35At the end of the day, my CV says sales because that's what I've been in and it's been something
10:39that's mapped my way all the way through.
10:41But I want the opportunity to be able to develop other skills and that's what I need to do.
10:45I'm not, you know, and there's no way I'm the finished article because if I was, I would
10:48not be here.
10:49No, I promise you you're not the finished article.
10:51Yeah, no, absolutely.
10:52You're not the strongest candidate, are you?
10:55Well, in terms of sales, no.
10:57Well, all rounder.
10:58You're not the strongest.
11:00In your own words.
11:01No, in my own words.
11:02What I said is I'm not the strongest on paper.
11:04So if you look at me and you look at my education, you look at my sales experience, no, I agree,
11:08I'm not on paper.
11:10When someone tells me that they are responsible for all operations, all compliance, all, all,
11:16I mean, does anybody else in this company, is it just you?
11:18Basically, when I'm talking about compliance, I'm the head of sales and operations.
11:20Well, obviously, I'm not anymore because I resigned to come here.
11:23You resigned or you were fired?
11:25No, I resigned without a doubt, I wasn't fired.
11:27They offered me a sabbatical and I declined.
11:29That doesn't seem sensible to me.
11:31Why not?
11:32Well, supposing you don't get the job?
11:34If I don't get the job, I know I can always go back to my company, but I did not want
11:37to take a sabbatical.
11:38You abandoned them?
11:39No, no, no, well, no.
11:40You did?
11:41No, no, no, that's wrong.
11:42No, you didn't.
11:43No, I didn't, because before I went, I was in the process of building.
11:46But you did.
11:47No?
11:48But you did.
11:49Did you get any shares or anything like that?
11:50I, yeah, 2,000, 2,500, no, go on, 250,000 shares which were due to be given to me.
11:56Well, I'd have got them now, but obviously, by coming on here, I haven't.
11:59So you give up 250,000 shares for the sake of what, of a one-in-something chance?
12:05Well, if you actually look at it, there were 15,000 people applying, I'm down to the last four.
12:09I knew.
12:10Coming second is irrelevant.
12:11That's not an option for me.
12:12Okay.
12:13I'm not convinced.
12:20I think that was mad for coming here.
12:24I don't believe in what I've got to come here, and he didn't understand it.
12:26Did I get sacked?
12:27What?
12:28I've been fired in my life.
12:30Now, you say you've got a proven track record of success.
12:33Yeah.
12:34But you're an average earner in an average job.
12:36So where's your proven track record?
12:38No-one else I know in the area that I live earns as much money as I do.
12:42And success isn't always measured on money.
12:44Right, so what is success measured on?
12:46Success is lifestyle and how much you enjoy your life.
12:48And I really, really, really enjoy my life.
12:50So why are you looking to change it?
12:52Because I want to see how much more money I can earn.
12:54There's a little bit of a contradiction coming in there.
12:56It's not a contradiction.
12:58Because you said success isn't about money.
13:00It's about enjoying yourself, being happy.
13:02And I agree with that.
13:04And then I said, so why do you want to change it?
13:06And you said, because I want to earn more money.
13:08Yeah, because I want to be earning more money for my lifestyle.
13:15Let me ask you, just in the event that you fail at this sort of last hurdle,
13:19what are you going to do?
13:21What path are you going to take?
13:23The actual company that I'm with now, being so good to me,
13:25they've said, come work for us for a month, see how you get on.
13:27We'll keep you on full pay while you're away.
13:29So on full pay, after only being there a month,
13:31now that shows a lot from me.
13:33Shouldn't you turn around and say, look, that's ridiculous?
13:35No. No way.
13:42I call myself a South Londoner.
13:44And really just had a working class background.
13:47And from the age of 14 I was playing football.
13:50Subsequently ended up playing it for Millwall until I was 20.
13:53So didn't really take the education side that seriously
13:56until I had serious knee injuries and left.
13:59Stumbled into sales like a lot of people do.
14:02You said you stumbled into sales.
14:04From what I can see, it's predominantly sales, isn't it?
14:07It is. I would say my background has been predominantly sales to start with.
14:11What I will say is from that I've then learnt the all-round part of business.
14:15Well, let's talk about your first job, QuickSave.
14:18QuickSave, yes.
14:20When I worked at QuickSave, what I used to do is I'd get up on a Saturday morning
14:23when I was probably about 15, go off to do a shift at QuickSave,
14:26which was all day long, then I'd get changed into my uniform
14:29whilst I was at QuickSave and go straight to a different job.
14:32And then I would go straight from that job to a third job,
14:34which was all through the night.
14:36I read through your background that you started as,
14:38without being rude, a checkout girl in QuickSave.
14:40I'm never going to be allowed to forget that. I'm like that checkout bit.
14:43And now you're a programme manager for a large telecom company.
14:46I'm self-employed now as a programme manager.
14:48As a programme manager.
14:49You've moved yourself away from checkout girl to a job that,
14:52well, self-employed and you're earning, according to this,
14:55£100,000 a year already.
14:57You're earning a substantial amount of money for somebody
14:59who's really only been around for a few years.
15:01I used to do offshoring for a company,
15:03and then I realised that actually I was quite good at it
15:05and I could probably make a lot of money doing it self-employed,
15:07so that's what I did.
15:08Right, what does offshoring mean?
15:10What I do is I work with companies that want to take their business overseas
15:13for cost reduction, time efficiency purposes.
15:16OK, can we just go back a little bit?
15:18You talk about that you've got integrity,
15:21common sense and a good sense of instinct.
15:23OK, what does that mean exactly?
15:25The good sense of instinct is what interests me.
15:27Instinct gives you your initial steer.
15:29For me, I've got a gut feeling and I know whether or not something feels right.
15:32It feels right in business. I mean, does Vigeland feel right?
15:35What does feel right? Amstrad, does it feel right?
15:37What does feel right mean?
15:39I can't explain it.
15:40It's just something inside of you when you're going into...
15:42Michelle, that's absolute nonsense with respect.
15:44It's about business. You can't be instinctive.
15:47You can't just say, I've got a feeling, I've got a good feeling in my water.
15:51It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
15:58Jesus.
16:01He's made me feel like I'm about this big.
16:05You can't hold a job down, can you?
16:08I mean, you change your job every two minutes.
16:10I noticed you weren't there very long, were you?
16:12Gap work? No.
16:14Six months? No.
16:15And you were there from April to October?
16:18No, no, I was there for longer than that.
16:20I was there at gap work for 11 months, sorry.
16:22OK, so that's not quite true.
16:24No, I don't understand why that's been put on there, to be honest.
16:26OK, so was this not you? Did you not fill this in?
16:29My resume was done very much last minute.
16:31I haven't had to do one for the last couple of jobs.
16:33That wasn't my question. Was it you that did that?
16:36I did the resume, yeah.
16:37First company I went to, I was leaning into liquidation.
16:40The second company I went to had a three-month trial period
16:43and didn't feel it was going to be a company for me.
16:46And then I went to gap work and had a real bad time
16:48on a personal level with the boss and I had to leave
16:50because I was actually in depression.
16:52It just strikes me that you've not really committed yourself anywhere at all yet.
16:56I agree. It's a big reservation that I have with myself.
16:59It would be a big reservation I would have with you.
17:03Hello. Hello. Pleased to meet you. I'm Ruth.
17:06Pleased to meet you. Have a seat.
17:12You're a bit of a tough cookie, aren't you?
17:14Are you happy?
17:16Am I happy? Personally, at the moment, yeah, without a doubt.
17:19Are you light?
17:20Am I light? I'd say so. Not necessarily in work.
17:23I've always come to the conclusion that I'm very, very straight-speaking.
17:27So if you look at my staff, I think it's more important with my staff
17:31and in the company that I'm respected more so than light.
17:34Have you obviously had to hire and fire people?
17:36A lot of people, yeah.
17:37Right. And how easy do you find that?
17:39I find hiring more difficult than I do firing.
17:41Do you? Firing, you don't find that difficult?
17:44I always think that when people have got to the stage
17:46where they're being fired by me, there's a good reason.
17:49I have inherited three management teams.
17:53Some people resigned the moment I took over.
17:57Why do you think they didn't want to work for you?
17:59Is there a character trait about you that they don't like?
18:02Yeah, I don't carry no passengers or deadwood.
18:05When you came in here, why didn't you knock?
18:09Because I found that quite rude when you walked in.
18:11I wasn't ready for you, though. You just burst in.
18:13You gave me a fright.
18:15Come on, you can't tell me that I was going to...
18:17I'm not going to hold that against you.
18:19But what it does tell me about you is that you're 100 miles an hour.
18:23Eventually, you'll burn out.
18:25Did you knock when you went in? Yes.
18:27Did you knock when you went in? Ah.
18:30What do you know about the Amstrad Group of companies?
18:32I've looked just really at the fact that the computer part of the business,
18:36which is the hardware part...
18:38So do you know all the products that Amstrad sell, for example?
18:41I don't know all the products that Amstrad sell, no.
18:43So as a salesman, you haven't gone in and checked out your target properly, have you?
18:48Not properly, no.
18:49How do you feel about that?
18:51Well, clearly, I'm picked up on it, so it's not good.
18:54I know the general overview of what they sell.
18:56Do you want to tell me?
18:57Yeah, it's computer-based, a lot of hardware, software.
18:59What's computer-based?
19:01The Amstrad side of the business.
19:03Well, do you know, Amstrad don't actually make computers now.
19:05They distribute them. They don't.
19:07Right, well, then, again, I'm not going to pretend to know the stuff I don't.
19:10Well, it sounds to me like you're just sort of waffling your way through it.
19:12No. Well, you are.
19:14Oh, my God, research, man. I got kapooned.
19:18I said, what do you know? I went...
19:20Research? Yeah. Massive.
19:24I said, what do you know about someone's companies?
19:26How many people does he employ?
19:28What's the revenue? Blah-de-blah-de-blah.
19:30Do you know the answers?
19:34What I actually did was I looked at him, not so much the companies.
19:41OK, then tell me about him, the stuff that you know about him.
19:44If you don't know about his companies, tell me about him, then.
19:46OK, basically, he's self-made.
19:49His style is very black and white.
19:52But, I mean, you could ask the person in the street that.
19:54That's hardly any research.
19:56So he's a self-made guy who's got a very direct style.
19:59Yeah. And that's it?
20:00No, because you could actually say that about people like Richard Branson,
20:03but I've never craved to go and work with him.
20:05Right, so you've craved to go and work with Alan, have you?
20:07Sir Alan, without a doubt, yeah.
20:08OK, good. That'll be interesting.
20:17You're embellished on the number of O-levels you've got.
20:19My GCSEs.
20:20You used the word embellished. You lied.
20:22I did lie about them, yeah. I did.
20:24Because you've also referred to Sir Alan as an inspiration.
20:27Mm-hm.
20:28And my concern is that you might be lying about that as well.
20:31Why?
20:32Because you lied about your O-levels.
20:33You never met Sir Alan prior to this programme.
20:35Completely different.
20:36Is it?
20:37Me, when I'm 15, 16 years old, trying to get my first job,
20:40and knowing that they'll only even look at me if I've got an A to C,
20:43is very, very different.
20:45It's said here, have you ever lied or cheated?
20:48You said, we all lie and cheat every day.
20:50Yeah.
20:51Do you lie and cheat every day?
20:52Yeah.
20:53Do you think that's good?
20:54No, but I think it's an honest answer.
20:56Right.
20:57So, OK, well, I applaud you for your integrity to say you lie and cheat every day.
21:01In your background here, where you say you lied to get your first job in sales,
21:06do you think that's acceptable behaviour?
21:09Lied to get my first job in sales?
21:11Yeah.
21:12Yeah.
21:13You said here, in my first position, I told the interviewer I had sales experience.
21:17The reality was you mimicked your sales role.
21:19That's not telling the truth, is it?
21:22I think in my very first sales role,
21:25I can't remember actually saying that I didn't have sales experience,
21:28I'm telling someone specifically.
21:29It's on your application.
21:30He cut through everything, yeah.
21:33Yeah, yeah.
21:34You know, a nair cake, he just...
21:37You know, like them bricks they build up, yeah,
21:40when you go to them shows, and they go...
21:43And it breaks down through the bricks.
21:45It was like that?
21:46It was like that.
21:47I've ever lied and cheated?
21:49It stretches the truth.
21:50It says here, yes, I have.
21:52I have lied in my career? Of course I have.
21:54One of the most impressive things you've ever done
21:56was turn a company from three million to 13 million.
21:58I actually put I was a fundamental part of...
22:00It was actually the chief exec who actually said that to me.
22:03You were a key fundamental part of turning it from 3.1 to 10.3...
22:06No, 13.1 in two and a half years.
22:10How did you do that?
22:11I mean, it's not something that I blag, it's proven.
22:14I've got my P&L forecast.
22:16I can actually tell you how I do it. I improve deficiency.
22:19If I had somebody in my business that had increased revenue
22:22from 3 to 13 million in three years,
22:24you would be under lock and key.
22:26You wouldn't be sitting here.
22:28I wouldn't let you go.
22:29Ruth, I'm not convinced on that whole subject.
22:32There's something not quite right.
22:34You either weren't fundamentally responsible
22:36for increasing the turnover...
22:38No, I was a fundamental part...
22:40..or...
22:45Jesus!
22:46Which one did you see?
22:48You think you're going to win, though, don't you?
22:50Yep.
22:51You think you're going to win hands down?
22:53No.
22:54Well, that was your word.
22:55Do you think you've got a chance of winning this competition?
22:57I have no idea. I think I've got...
22:59I'm in the mix, but whether I've got a realistic chance,
23:02I have no idea. I'm just myself.
23:04I think Ruth is definitely a strong candidate to win.
23:07If one person was going to leave, it'd probably be Paul.
23:10Why?
23:11Because Paul's very good at sales,
23:13he's very good at being funny,
23:15but I'm not quite sure what else.
23:17The reason I've come for this job is that I want a massive stage to play on.
23:20What does that mean? You say there's a massive stage?
23:22Is it an acting career?
23:24No, no, no. I mean, I see my company...
23:26If you look at an analogy, and you might pick follow me for this,
23:29but I'm going to say it anyway, like a cake, OK?
23:31If you've got your own business, you've got a small cake,
23:33and it's all yours and you're very possessive of it.
23:35If you've got your own business, well, why have a little tiny cake
23:38when you can have a big slice of someone else's?
23:40Sir Alan Sugar's cake is huge.
23:42When he sees me go after a year, he's going to pay me more,
23:44he's going to pay me loads more, and by ten years' time,
23:46I'm going to be further along with Sir Alan than I will ever be anywhere else.
23:49I think I'm brilliant, I think I'm great.
23:51Don't keep saying how brilliant you are.
23:53I'm just a likeable person who can get on with anyone at any level.
23:56You're not getting on with me. That's fine, that's a personal opinion.
23:59I thought you said you're getting on with everyone.
24:01I could definitely get on with you.
24:03I just feel as though I've done more than any other 26-year-old.
24:06I've travelled the world, played cricket at a high level,
24:09got a beautiful girlfriend that I want to marry, done up my own house.
24:12Well, you've said all that. I got all that.
24:14So, yeah, I'm completely happy. I'm a win-win situation.
24:23I didn't enjoy that one at all.
24:25It's just sort of, like, frustrating. You just feel like going, no.
24:29I think he's so wide open. Trust me.
24:34Please, it's over.
24:37Please, it's over.
24:39After three hours of intensive questioning,
25:05the consultants report back to Sir Alan and his aides,
25:08Nick Hewer and Margaret Manford.
25:11As their fate hangs in the balance,
25:14the candidates have to wait in reception.
25:17All they know is two of them are going to get fired.
25:23OK, thanks for giving up a whole day of your time
25:26to look at these final four apprentices.
25:30Let's start with Michelle. Claude?
25:34I quite like the way that she presented herself.
25:36She seemed to be quiet but quite confident.
25:39One has to say that as a young woman, she's come from nowhere
25:42and apparently seems to have done very well.
25:44From my point of view, somebody who has got the inclination
25:47to be self-employed at this young age shows certain amount of character.
25:51Now, why she'd want to go from being self-employed,
25:53where she's actually earning a lot of money, to go back into employment?
25:56Do you think she's earning that money, though, Claude?
25:58It's not for me to say.
25:59Did you take what you saw on paper and think it's right?
26:02I challenged her. At the end of the day, she was quite resolute
26:05that that's what she was earning. I think it's quite possible.
26:10Paul on Michelle, then.
26:11I haven't really got a lot to add.
26:13And the reason I haven't got a lot to add is because she's quite boring.
26:16Her CV's dry.
26:18I think that she's had a very, very tough upbringing.
26:21We touched on it. She was reluctant to discuss it in detail.
26:24I've had an incredible amount of knocks in my life.
26:27I've lost close people to me and my family, which is very, very tough.
26:30But you get through those knocks.
26:32What's different about having a hard time is how you deal with it.
26:34You can either go one way, which is the bad way,
26:36and you can kind of feel like a victim or whatever,
26:38or you can use that to propel you.
26:40And for me, that is 100% what drives me.
26:42I've had many people in my life saying to me,
26:44you know, you're not going to be anything.
26:46You're going to be on the dole with 20 kids, and that's fine.
26:49That's your choice. But that's not my choice.
26:51The reality is this is a young girl who's had a difficult childhood
26:55who wants to better herself, and I like that aspect in her.
26:59I felt she was young, strong drive.
27:01She's a nice person, comes across quite well in the interview.
27:06I felt she was quite strong.
27:08But she's weak on a lot of business disciplines.
27:11You know, she's got a core set.
27:13From what I've seen, she's not been involved in anything commercial particularly.
27:17She's one set removed from it.
27:19Listen, Nick and Margaret, you've been following her around for the past ten weeks.
27:23Do you want to kind of add anything to that?
27:25My observations are as follows.
27:27I think when push comes to shove,
27:30and she has to perform in an interview situation, she's bloody good.
27:34She's good in the boardroom when she's on losing teams.
27:36She's good with you, and I fear that she may have seduced you all
27:39because that's her great skill.
27:41Secondly, ambitious. She's fiercely ambitious.
27:44She came from being a check-out girl at Quicksave,
27:47and she stormed ahead, and she's doing very well.
27:49And I wonder whether her ambition is not in danger of damaging the job that she does
27:55because she just wants to get on and on and on.
27:58My third point, very quickly, personality.
28:01It's difficult to spot.
28:03It's difficult to spot.
28:05I think she's a very cold fish.
28:08And in a people business, selling, I think it would be...
28:12I ain't exactly warm as toast myself, am I, really, if you know what I mean?
28:16Let's talk about Ansel now.
28:19When I saw his CV, I'd have put it in the bin,
28:21but when I saw the man, I quite liked him.
28:24I thought that he came over as charming,
28:26he came over as somebody who was willing to learn,
28:28wanting to gain more experience,
28:30but maybe that's just the way he behaves.
28:32But I ended up quite liking him,
28:34and I thought that he was somebody
28:36who you might just be able to influence and mould and work with.
28:40I like Ansel myself. I do. I quite like him.
28:42He's like a boy.
28:43And also you've got to like people you work with.
28:45He's a very nice boy.
28:47Ansel's a salesman.
28:49The problem you've got with Ansel is that's all he is.
28:52I took off my watch during the interview and asked him to sell it to me.
28:56What you'll notice from this watch is,
28:58in terms of the bracelet, it's got a lovely design.
29:01Obviously, it's a nice chrome colour,
29:03which is a nice colour that people like at the moment.
29:06It's got a fantastic face, which is very contemporary in its style.
29:10You'll notice that it's a watch that was made in Geneva,
29:13which then highlights the quality.
29:15It's got a fantastic black face,
29:18and again, the colours stand out and look really nice.
29:21I think it's a watch that... Why don't you try it on?
29:24I like it. I like this watch.
29:27He is a salesman. That's all he's ever really done.
29:30But he didn't do his selling properly here.
29:33He did no research on understanding your organisations,
29:38the parts, the products you sell, the companies in there.
29:41And he sat there and basically said,
29:43yep, you're right, I didn't do that.
29:45And I found that strange for someone who wants to be an apprentice,
29:49that they haven't really done their homework and really got it together.
29:52You mean, you were surprised that even at this late stage,
29:56ten weeks down the line, that he didn't really know what we do?
30:00He loosely knew it, as much as you could loosely say,
30:03well, I've heard of Amstrad, but if I asked him what products they had,
30:06what markets they were in, he just didn't have the knowledge.
30:10I liked him as an individual, but I found him shallow.
30:13He's a great guy, a nice man, but it's sales.
30:17And I don't think, actually, he's that great a salesman either.
30:20I think he is a good salesman. A great salesman?
30:23I don't know whether he's a great salesman. I think he's a good salesman.
30:26And I think he can adapt his sales patter technique, whatever you call it,
30:30to fit with different sorts of people.
30:33He empathises quite well. You all liked him, didn't you?
30:36Yes, he does. But the ultimate salesman is able to sell themselves.
30:40And the reality is he didn't manage to do that.
30:42Is he an all-round apprentice? Probably not.
30:45Could he be? You know what? It's difficult. It's difficult, Alan.
30:50I'm not convinced. You know what? He's just a nice guy.
30:53So, we've now got Ruth.
30:56I was very, very concerned about her CV.
30:59Very concerned, because to me she looks like Wonder Woman here.
31:02I asked her whether there's anybody else in the business, or is it just her?
31:05She told me that the company had gone public last year
31:08and that she'd received some share options.
31:10She'd jacked in her job and she'd surrendered the shares,
31:13and I find that... What, to come here?
31:15Yes. They offered her a sabbatical,
31:17and it just seemed to me to be rash and diabolical,
31:20and she must be not telling me the whole story,
31:23because nobody gives up a super-duper job,
31:26high salary, great prospects, a big package of options.
31:30The point you're making is that she should have taken the sabbatical,
31:34even if they weren't going to pay her, and at least have a job ready.
31:38When she walked in the door, she walked in with such force.
31:42You know, like, cranky.
31:44And she sits forward like this.
31:48She's very tense.
31:50You're like hyper. I am? Relax.
31:53Well, I am relaxed, but don't forget, I've got to come across to you...
31:56Calm, calm. Be calm.
31:58I've got to come across to you and justify my points, OK?
32:01So I am up for it, without a doubt.
32:03You're making me want to sit back, yeah?
32:05Sit back, relax, relax. Do you think I'm aggressive?
32:09No. Not many.
32:11If you take away that unnecessary aggression
32:14and the fact that she rarely breathes in, she's actually quite good.
32:18There are inconsistencies in her CV, you know,
32:21the fact that she made a business from 3 million to 13 million
32:24and appears to have earned less than 1% of the increase.
32:27You know, I'm sure all of that is bravado,
32:30but the reality is, how does someone impress us
32:33in the space of 10, 15, 20 minutes?
32:36She would certainly sort of get people's backs up in an organisation.
32:40Having said that, she wants to succeed.
32:43She desperately wants to be the apprentice.
32:45So, you know, I think there's a point of...
32:48Does she want the job? Yes, she does.
32:50Is she available? Yes, she is.
32:52Would she do a good job at it? I think she'd give it her best shot.
32:55Pull on Paul.
32:57I've got no idea what he's doing here.
32:59Really? I'm genuinely amazed that he's got this far.
33:03When he comes in this boardroom here,
33:05he will say that he has won in most of the tasks,
33:09he has never been one of the three,
33:12and consequently, I will say to him,
33:14you're right, I've never spoken to you.
33:16Well, he's got luck, isn't he? No, but I have never spoken to the guy.
33:19That's the bottom line, I think.
33:21So I don't really know him. He is a door-to-door salesman.
33:24This is where I need your input.
33:26Alan, he's a door-to-door salesman, he looks like one,
33:29he dresses like one, he's a nice guy.
33:31I'm sure he's very funny.
33:33If I went down the pub and had a few drinks, I'm sure he could make me laugh.
33:36Would I want him coming in and running one of my businesses? Not a chance.
33:39How did he get here? I don't know.
33:42Some of the comments he made in his CV I found offensive.
33:45It was your comment on what makes you angry.
33:48You've written, people who sell the big issue.
33:50Not once have I seen somebody actually trying to sell it.
33:53All they do is shove it in your face and say, big issue.
33:55Why don't they sell the features of the magazine,
33:57highlighting the value for money?
33:59Are you aware that it's homeless people selling the big issue?
34:01Yeah.
34:02Are you aware of that?
34:03Yeah, definitely.
34:04Yeah, because these homeless people are not established salesmen.
34:06They're trying to eat.
34:07Absolutely.
34:08They're trying to eat.
34:09So I thought that was a little naughty.
34:11No, I appreciate that comment, but from my point of view, I've had the biggest...
34:14Of all the things that make you angry, what are things that make you angry?
34:16Homeless people selling magazines?
34:19Do me a favour, yeah?
34:22The fact that he's on 25 grand a year is about right.
34:26If you go down out of this boardroom, down the road to the Peugeot sales office,
34:30you'll find four pools in there.
34:32And three of them will be wearing nicer suits.
34:35So, okay.
34:37Claude?
34:38I didn't like him at all.
34:39I didn't like his CV.
34:40I didn't like the whole way he discussed himself, that he's the best, he's brilliant.
34:44I just don't like it.
34:45A 25-year-old kid, you can't be the best.
34:48You know, you can have aspirations.
34:50You can think that you're on the way to being good,
34:52but he's just much, much too cocky.
34:54I just think that he's somebody who hasn't done a day's work in his life yet, Alan.
34:57I don't know how he's holding down the job he's doing,
35:00but it seems to me that he's just a chancer.
35:03I thought he's a likeable chap.
35:07I didn't have any problem with him as a person I came across.
35:10It was the worst interview, by far, out of all four for me.
35:15He fell apart under the smallest push on the interview.
35:19The CV didn't stack up at all.
35:22One of the greats, by his own confession, is we all lie and cheat every day.
35:27Well, I think he lied and cheated when he put his resume down
35:30to the fact he couldn't even hold any of the dates up.
35:33You know what he's like?
35:34He's like one of these blokes that turn up at your door
35:36with mortgage protection policies and say,
35:38if you're ever ill, you know, this is really good, sign here.
35:41And he rings up and he gets his 30 quid for filling out the coupon.
35:45Yeah, and he adds them up and then spends them at the end of the week down the pub.
35:48That is what is so surprising to me.
35:50I've explained to you before, I haven't spoken to the fellow,
35:52I have had some relatively good reports from these two people here about him.
35:57No matter what they say, I've seen him organising, I've seen him selling,
36:01I've seen him controlling a team and leading a team.
36:03And let me tell you, on The Grand Princess,
36:06when Syed and Ruth made such a complete shambles of their task,
36:10he produced a three-page document laying out exactly what they're going to do,
36:15when they were going to do it.
36:17He's all right.
36:20He set himself up in an interview mode for the three of them
36:23and got it dramatically wrong.
36:30Who should I keep?
36:35I am, to a certain extent, swayed by what Margaret and Nick have said.
36:41She seems to be the best of what you've got left.
36:44As a candidate, whereas, frankly, from the interview,
36:47I would have just dismissed her.
36:49So if you're asking me, Alan, I would say...
36:51My point of view is probably the strongest.
36:53I'm absolutely, absolutely gobsmacked about...
36:57But, you know, if you wanted to give someone a help up in life...
37:00He's a very nice boy. He is.
37:02But I don't think you're getting a brain surgeon there.
37:04Have you noticed any I've got at the moment?
37:06It's not a cut and dried.
37:13OK, guys, once again, thanks a lot for everything, all your input.
37:17As you know, I'm the kind of guy that makes up his own mind,
37:20but you have been very useful to me.
37:22Thanks, Alan.
37:29Thanks.
37:37I think the interesting thing is on this fella, Paul, really,
37:40and it is amazing that even after ten weeks,
37:45you know, at this kind of 11th hour, as far as I'm concerned,
37:48I completely see him in a different light.
37:51Paul is supremely confident that he's going to win.
37:54I think you'll probably find his suitcase is empty.
37:57Really?
37:59We're going to call the four people back in here.
38:01He will be given the opportunity to talk to me.
38:04I hear what you say, I hear what Nick says, I hear what they say.
38:08Let's hear what he says.
38:10PHONE RINGS
38:12Hi, Jenny, can you send the four of them in, please?
38:15Yes, sir.
38:17You can go through to the boardroom now.
38:42I'll start off by saying one thing, is that you may have worked out by now
38:57that I'm one of those people that listens to others,
39:00but in the end, I make my mind up.
39:03It's me making the final decision of who will be the apprentice.
39:07There's been a lot of interesting stuff come out from the guys, really.
39:11Some of it has surprised me, to be perfectly honest.
39:16Paul, you must be some dynamo,
39:20because you've only been in your last job for a month,
39:23they've still paid you for this past 12 weeks,
39:26they've got the job waiting for you,
39:29and if you win this apprentice, it'll be okay, never mind, that's fine.
39:33But if you don't, you can come back for a job. Is that right?
39:36Yeah.
39:37That's unbelievable. How did you pull that deal off?
39:39That's unbelievable. You've been there only a month.
39:41You haven't got to pay them back or anything like that.
39:43No, no. The chairman rang me and said,
39:45how can I not support you? If any of my staff want to bet themselves,
39:49then I would absolutely support them.
39:51But you've only been there a month.
39:52Perhaps he thought maybe you've got no chance of winning.
39:55No way.
39:56Do you think you've got a chance of winning this?
39:57Yeah.
39:58You do?
39:59Yeah.
40:00Why is that?
40:01Michelle, I have a difficulty with you in kind of working out who you are,
40:16quite frankly.
40:20I find some of the dialogue very kind of clinical.
40:24I don't see any kind of passion and personality in it.
40:29Why am I feeling that way?
40:31I don't know. I'm very passionate about what I do.
40:33I'm passionate about getting and winning this job as well.
40:36Are you a little devil somewhere beneath there?
40:39I mean, I don't mind if you are.
40:40There's a little devilment in you somewhere, a bit of a sting,
40:43like a scorpion of some kind.
40:45No, I have my moments, the same as everybody, but no, not at all.
40:49I'm all right.
40:55Now, Ruth, there's a little problem that I've got,
40:58and that is the reason why you're here.
41:00Okay.
41:01On your CV, according to one of these gentlemen,
41:04you told him that you kind of gave up the opportunity of share options
41:09in a PLC company.
41:11You gave up the offer of a sabbatical to come here.
41:15You gave it all up just to come here, just turned around and said,
41:18no, I'm giving up my job.
41:20Are you that confident that you were going to win this?
41:22No, but what I don't do is I don't mess around with people,
41:24and at the end of the day...
41:25No, but if they were offering you a sabbatical to come back...
41:27Okay, they were sitting, no surroundings.
41:28Surely you've got to have some kind of contingency plan.
41:30I have got a contingency plan, but the problem was I actually sat down
41:33with my chief exec, and what he said to me was,
41:35I want an answer that if you do not get the apprentice,
41:38you will definitely come back and work here.
41:40And I couldn't hand on heart sit there and say yes.
41:42Why not?
41:43Didn't you like the job?
41:44Did I like the job?
41:45Yeah, I liked the job, but the problem was I knew that I'd learn things in here
41:48which had actually changed my perspective of life, and it has.
41:52But I wasn't going to sign a contract to say I would definitely, definitely go back.
41:57Ansel.
41:59Nice fellow, aren't you?
42:00Sir Alan, from my point of view, people say I'm nice,
42:03but in all the time that I've been here, I've been not frightened to put my point across.
42:08For me, it's about how you put the point across
42:10and making sure that the message is understood.
42:12You're a salesman.
42:13Are you a one-trick pony?
42:16I'm not a one-trick pony.
42:17In terms of the work that I've done, I've had all-round operational responsibility,
42:21I've had all-round service and financial responsibility.
42:23I think that I've got absolute passion, I have got personality and character,
42:27and I know that I've got a sponge in terms of my brain.
42:31I learn very, very quickly, and I know that there's more to me.
42:37Paul.
42:38Some little bird told me that it was so confident
42:41that when you came to the boardrooms on some occasions,
42:44you didn't even bother to pack your bag.
42:46You came with an empty bag, is that right?
42:47That's right, yeah.
42:48Why is that? You really thought you were immune?
42:50Not going to happen to you?
42:51I actually thought if I got fired in them kind of tasks,
42:54then I deserved not to have any clothes anyway.
42:59That was a joke, was it?
43:00No.
43:01OK.
43:02Ultimately, I felt I was confident enough that I wasn't going.
43:06How do you feel now?
43:07Have you said enough to me yet for you to be in the final two?
43:11Well, I haven't really had a chance to talk to you, really.
43:14Well, then, that's what we're doing here today,
43:16because I've got to tell you, three people have told me about you,
43:19another two people have told me about you.
43:21The only person I haven't heard from is you.
43:23And let me tell you now, you're on a burn-down now.
43:26Because you've won seven tasks,
43:28don't mean jack shit to me, quite frankly,
43:30because I haven't spoken to you yet.
43:32So you speak to me.
43:33You speak to me now, because I'm telling you,
43:35it's getting close for that door over there.
43:38Do you understand?
43:39Well, well, well, Sir Alan.
43:41I really want the job. There's no doubt about it.
43:43I think I'm at a good age.
43:45I think I've proved myself over the last ten tasks,
43:47but ultimately, I think, although I'm very confident and cocky,
43:50I also think that I am someone who can learn a lot
43:53from someone like yourself.
43:58People have told me about you,
44:00and it's uncanny that all of them, without exception,
44:05say that you're just a salesman.
44:07Just an ordinary, happy-go-lucky salesman.
44:10In fact, one of them put it that, you know,
44:12the type of fellow you'd expect knocking on your door
44:15to kind of sell you some kind of insurance policy
44:17or some extended guarantee or something like that.
44:19I feel strongly that that is not the case.
44:21That is not what I do.
44:22My sales techniques and my strategies
44:24that I've learnt from work and do every day at work
44:26are a lot more in-depth than just knocking on the door.
44:30As a door-to-door salesperson, I really object to that.
44:36Michelle, from the age of about 15, I think,
44:40and again, I don't want to get too personal,
44:42you've actually gone and done jobs, right?
44:44Yeah.
44:45You know, even while you were at school, is that right?
44:47Yeah.
44:48Sometimes two or three jobs, according to one of my colleagues,
44:50is that right?
44:51In a day, yeah.
44:52In a day, right.
44:53Very, very commendable, because you needed, you know,
44:55self-preservation, and you fought your way up
44:58to your own business, which is making over £100,000 a year.
45:01Are you flannelling me about this £100,000 a year?
45:05Am I what?
45:06Flannelling, flannelling.
45:07Telling me porcupines.
45:08That's probably...
45:09Adding a bit of VAT onto the story.
45:11You can check my references,
45:12and everyone will validate my...
45:13I'd rather check your bank statement.
45:15If I had it, I'd show you it to prove it, I don't.
45:17But without a doubt, it's not about money.
45:19I've got a good base already, I've got some good experience,
45:22nobody's ever taught me anything, I've learnt everything myself,
45:25and for me, this is an opportunity to work with somebody
45:27that is good at what they do.
45:28But the point is, wild horses would have to drag me
45:31to go and work for someone.
45:33If I would have achieved what you've achieved,
45:36which I did, right, there is no way
45:39I'm ever going back to work for somebody.
45:41What do you want to work for me for?
45:43Do you want to stand in the way of these other three people?
45:47Yeah, I do, actually.
45:55It's getting to the time now where we've got to cut to the chase,
45:58and I've got to choose two people that are going, OK?
46:00So I'm going to give you the last opportunity.
46:03Starting with you, Ansel, why shouldn't you go?
46:07I shouldn't go, Sir Alan, because, one,
46:09I've proven that I have a number of skills over a period of time,
46:12I am raw talent, I've got tremendous passion and drive,
46:16and I also think that working for you,
46:18I think that I would learn a tremendous amount.
46:21OK, Ruth.
46:23I'm your apprentice for a number of reasons.
46:25Number one, again, I've demonstrated all the skills that you're looking for,
46:29I've shown my commitment to the role,
46:31I have given 100% on every single task.
46:34There is not nothing that I won't do to come and work for you.
46:37If you're looking for somebody to come on board
46:39who has got a fantastic array of skills,
46:42but can increase productivity,
46:44and basically, hopefully, take your business up to the next level,
46:47I'm that person.
46:52Paul.
46:54I just want this job more than anyone here, without a doubt.
46:56I'm a fantastic apprentice for somebody like yourself.
46:59I've learnt a lot, I've done a lot for the age that I am in life,
47:03and I think that I could develop existing accounts that you've already got
47:07and win new business also.
47:09People work with me in business.
47:11Business? You're only 25 years old, you haven't been in business.
47:14How long have you been in bloody business?
47:16Three years.
47:17Three years? You're talking as if you've been in it for 30 years.
47:20I've only got three years to base it on, sir,
47:22and that is whenever I have...
47:23You've done yourself a good deal, haven't you?
47:25You reckon there's someone out there waiting for you,
47:27your existing employer, yeah?
47:29There's plenty of people waiting for me.
47:34Well, I've got to tell you, Paul...
47:38..you haven't convinced me today, right?
47:40So, Paul, I'm letting you go.
47:42Paul, you're fired.
48:17Michelle, why should I choose you as the apprentice?
48:21I think I've got a good base for you to build on,
48:23I think I've got a lot to give you, I think I've got a lot to learn from you,
48:26and I think I'd fit well into the culture of your company.
48:29Is your family proud of you?
48:31The family that you care of?
48:32Yeah.
48:33Yeah? And your sisters and your brothers?
48:35Have you got any brothers?
48:36Yeah, three.
48:37Right. Are they proud of what you've done?
48:38Yeah. Yeah, they are.
48:40Do you support them?
48:42I do, yes. They get what they want, yeah.
48:45So I like that answer.
48:49I like your spirit and I like what you've done also,
48:52and I'm going to give you a chance,
48:55I really am going to give you a chance,
48:58I think looking back on what you've done,
49:01and listening to the guys, my guys,
49:03they see that you fought your way up from nowhere,
49:06and I'm going to give you an opportunity.
49:08You're staying, OK?
49:20You will understand, Ansel, that just being a nice guy
49:24is not necessarily, you know, what I need.
49:28You keep hopping back to the fact that I'm a nice guy.
49:31Please, as far as I'm concerned, yes, I do get on with people,
49:34I can report with people,
49:36but I am a person who can be open yet direct.
49:38Yeah, a nice guy is one thing,
49:40but when I need to be able to put my point across, I can do.
49:42My colleagues say to me that you're a salesman,
49:44a very, very good salesman.
49:46Sir Alan, what I have also done in my time,
49:48I have set up departments, I've set up brand-new operations,
49:52so that alone takes a wide range of skills.
49:56I've done that with big sales teams,
49:58and that includes regional managers, branch managers,
50:00I've done that range,
50:02and that is not just about being a salesperson.
50:04I can go out there and I can sell with the best of them,
50:07and everybody that I've worked with, I can prove that,
50:09but I also have the skills that I can sit back and help,
50:12bring people on and motivate them to do other things,
50:15so I do feel I have the all-round ability.
50:18Great speech, Ansel. Great speech, Ruth.
50:22Can you top that?
50:24I can top that, because I actually think I've got the edge.
50:27Number one, I've proven every single skill in the last ten weeks.
50:31If you look at the festival, down to the cat calendar,
50:34even though it was a nightmare, down to Amsair,
50:36I've proved I can manage.
50:38I've proved I can manage when we're looking at the design.
50:40I can motivate a team.
50:42When we're talking about problems in the house,
50:44and Michelle will back me up on this,
50:46I've made sure that I've sorted everything out,
50:48so we're actually working as a unit.
50:50At this table, I'm the person that wants the job the most,
50:53I've worked the hardest without a doubt,
50:55and I've proved what I can do.
50:58It's a tough, tough decision.
51:00Both got tremendously good skills.
51:08I'm struggling here.
51:10I really am struggling here,
51:12because the rules are that one of you is going to go,
51:15and I've got to end up with two people left
51:17for the final task of the apprentice.
51:21Ruth,
51:23I've had a bit of problems with understanding about your last job.
51:28My people had a lot of misunderstanding about your last job.
51:33I had problems with you in the task before,
51:35in pointing the finger at Saeed,
51:38when it came to reading the rules.
51:40You know, you sail a bit close to the wind
51:42when it comes to the truth,
51:45in my opinion.
51:46With my last job, I can verify every piece of information.
51:49Well, I'm talking.
51:51And it would be a very, very sorry state of affairs
51:54if I make a wrong decision here on someone
51:57who kind of bends the truth a little bit,
52:00and puts the knife in the back of people when it's not...
52:02I don't do that.
52:03Well, I think you didn't do a bad job on Saeed the other day.
52:11So,
52:14Ruth,
52:16I...
52:20I'm also going to let you stay.
52:25Ansel, you're a very, very fine fellow.
52:28But Ansel, regretfully, I've got to say to you,
52:31you're fired.
52:34Thank you. Thank you very much.
52:58I've given you two ladies the chance of a lifetime, OK?
53:02You've got a lot to do for me, a lot to do for me.
53:05I've put my trust in you.
53:06But well done. Thank you.
53:07Back to the house, and I'll see you in a couple of days' time.
53:10Thank you, sir.
53:16Bye.
53:38Jesus Christ.
53:39Oh...
53:42That man.
53:43When he said Michelle, I just thought,
53:45I've gone, I've gone, I've gone, and I thought, no.
53:49At the end, I just wanted to grab him and say,
53:51give me the job, which is why I was doing...
53:53Oh...
53:54What a nightmare.
53:56I've never in my life fought for anything so hard as I have to do this.
54:03Oh, I'm just, like, absolutely blown away, I'm telling you.
54:06Absolutely blown away. I'm so proud of both of us.
54:09I think we've done well, girl.
54:11The biggest thing for me is the fact that the two people you've got here,
54:14number one, have got five GCSEs between us.
54:18We haven't got any degrees.
54:20We're self-made people, and we're women.
54:24It's amazing that I was called nice so many times.
54:27In the end, I had a complex about being nice.
54:30From my point of view, I've come third,
54:32and I've had a fantastic experience, and I've learnt so much as well.
54:36When you're sitting across from Sir Alan,
54:38and he's cutting into you and he's carving you to pieces, you learn.
54:42It's over, and I wish I was staying,
54:45but, you know, the two people that are in the frame are fantastic people,
54:48and they got a great chance of winning.
54:51That was the first time that me and him had had a chance to have a one-on-one,
54:54and maybe he had some weeks where he thought,
54:56I wanted to have a word with Paul about something, but never got the chance.
54:59So, you know, I got ten weeks of wrath off him then,
55:02so at the end of the day, if he sees me as someone
55:05that can have a laugh down the pub with everyone
55:07and just sell to people, then that's fine,
55:09because I'll make a hell of a lot of money,
55:11and I'll have a good laugh doing it, definitely.