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00:00Today's guest is Hiroshi Tachi.
00:03Thank you for coming.
00:06Thank you for having me.
00:08I don't know why you came.
00:10The movie is over.
00:12Abunai Deka.
00:13It was a big hit.
00:17You knew it was going to be a big hit, right?
00:22I thought it was over with Abunai Deka.
00:30Then I came back.
00:32Like Ultraman?
00:34Yes.
00:35Somehow it went well.
00:37I don't know who told you, but you guessed it right.
00:42I changed the script a lot.
00:47I changed it four or five times.
00:49What did you do?
00:53I talked to the director.
00:57What did you do after you came back?
01:01Abunai Deka?
01:02I went out again.
01:04Abunai Deka?
01:05Will it continue?
01:07No, it won't.
01:08Won't it continue?
01:09Yes, I'm tired.
01:13It's been a while since you worked with Kyohei Shibata.
01:16Yes.
01:17How do you feel when you work with him after a long time?
01:21I feel like I've met him.
01:24You feel like you've met him.
01:26Rhythm, tempo, everything.
01:30He's the same age as me.
01:32He's one year younger than me.
01:34One year younger.
01:35One year younger.
01:36He's not sick, but he's doing well.
01:39He's doing well.
01:41He's doing well.
01:42He's running a lot.
01:45It's a running movie.
01:47I'm not running.
01:49Why?
01:50It's amazing.
01:51Just by looking at this one shot, it's cool.
01:55Has anything changed?
01:57I've gotten older.
01:58To each other?
01:59Somehow?
02:00No, I've gotten older.
02:02What?
02:03Yes.
02:04Is that so?
02:05Yes.
02:06This is now.
02:07Don't say that.
02:08I'm definitely older.
02:10Poo has become more destructive.
02:13Destructive?
02:14I don't know what to do when he comes out.
02:19Do you call him Poo?
02:20Poo.
02:21Mr. Atsuko?
02:22Yes, Poo.
02:23How about Toru-chan?
02:25Toru is Toru.
02:26Toroi-doubutsu.
02:27Don't say that.
02:29I feel sorry for Ryutan.
02:31If I come here, I can become the old Toru.
02:36That's good.
02:38When you were young.
02:39I'm not at the top.
02:41I'm at the bottom.
02:42I think this position feels good.
02:45The atmosphere and distance don't change.
02:49I don't like movies.
02:51Japanese movies are boring.
02:53At that time, I was told to release a record.
02:55I asked if they would give me money.
02:58At that time, it was 2 million yen.
03:01Tonight, the legend of Hatenko, who is too handsome, appears one after another.
03:08I ate it on purpose.
03:11It was about 10 o'clock when Mr. Tadakura came in.
03:15I thought it was okay at 10 o'clock, so I went to 10 o'clock the next day.
03:19Furthermore,
03:21I told Mr. Ishihara that the president was not so cute.
03:27I told him that it was not the time to talk to Mr. Ishihara Yujiro.
03:36Mr. Tetsuya Watari, the hero of his life.
03:41I didn't want to be on TV.
03:43I wanted to be in a movie.
03:45I couldn't do my favorite job.
03:50Tsurube-chan and Sawako-chan.
03:53The great seniors of the Showa era.
03:59I was originally from Nagoya.
04:02I went to Harajuku by train.
04:06Tamuro is around here.
04:08Was it when you were in Coolus?
04:10That's right.
04:11It's cool. It looks bad.
04:13It looks bad.
04:15It doesn't look good in this costume.
04:17It was bad.
04:19In Japan, the Showa-style of Sakura and Ichiro was a big hit.
04:24Jaws was released overseas.
04:27It recorded a revenue of 5.1 billion yen.
04:31Showa 50 years.
04:34Coolus, a motorcycle team, debuted as a rock band.
04:39A prosperous entertainment life begins.
04:44At first, I was told to make a movie.
04:46I don't like Japanese movies because they are boring.
04:49That's Yuta.
04:50Yuta is boring.
04:52I told the producer.
04:53For example, what kind of movie?
04:55War movie? Ninja movie?
04:57There was a ninja movie.
04:59Giri Ninja.
05:04I thought it didn't matter.
05:07You're an adult if you don't say it.
05:10That's right.
05:12American movies are better.
05:14That's right.
05:15It's dreamy.
05:16It's refreshing.
05:18It was still in its early twenties.
05:20It was in its late twenties.
05:23At first, I didn't want to make a movie.
05:25I refused.
05:28I was told to release a record at that time.
05:33I asked for money.
05:36At that time, it was 2 million yen.
05:40For such a newcomer?
05:422 million yen is amazing.
05:44I got it.
05:45So I decided to make a movie.
05:48At the age of 24, you could get a job.
05:52I was still a student.
05:54Did you become an architect?
05:56You're a doctor.
05:57That's right.
05:59I dropped out of medical school.
06:02That's a lie.
06:04I was just playing.
06:06That's not true.
06:07But you became an architect.
06:09It's difficult to be an architect.
06:11I liked painting.
06:14I thought architecture was good.
06:16While I was an architect,
06:19I wandered around Harajuku.
06:21Then I made a movie.
06:23I was scouted.
06:24I was told that I could get 2 million yen.
06:26So I started recording.
06:27I started singing.
06:29When I started singing,
06:31I decided to make a movie.
06:33Wait a minute.
06:34You don't know how to sing.
06:36I sang in front of people.
06:41It was a recording studio.
06:43Is that so?
06:44It was my first time.
06:45Did you sing a lot when you were young?
06:47Not at all.
06:48There was no karaoke at that time.
06:50There was no karaoke.
06:52I didn't sing or act at all.
06:55Why did you start a recording company?
06:57You said you wanted to do it.
06:59I thought it was good because it was like this.
07:02What did you do when you sang in the recording studio?
07:06I went to the other side of the glass.
07:09The director was looking down.
07:13He was looking down.
07:15He said to me,
07:17Come here.
07:19I listened to my song.
07:21I thought I was bad at singing.
07:25What did you do after that?
07:27I was bad at singing.
07:29Did you train or cooperate?
07:31I didn't do much.
07:32Even if you say you're bad at singing,
07:34you sing on stage.
07:36Do you release a hit song?
07:38I don't sing a hit song.
07:41I don't sing a hit song.
07:43You released a hit song.
07:45I danced until morning.
07:47You danced in front of the audience on stage.
07:49You don't release a hit song.
07:51The audience is kind.
07:53You're being spoiled.
07:54Yes, I'm spoiled.
07:56I've heard a lot.
07:58There's an attribute of Mr. Ishihara.
08:00It's good.
08:02You sang Mr. Ishihara's song.
08:04Mr. Ishihara is a genius.
08:07Mr. Ishihara is a genius.
08:11He's not good at acting.
08:15Everyone is bad at acting.
08:17Mr. Ishihara, Mr. Watari, me.
08:21Mr. Kanda, Mr. Terawa.
08:23Mr. Kanda is also bad at acting.
08:25Mr. Kanda is also bad at acting.
08:27I'm not bad at acting.
08:29But I'm popular.
08:31I'm popular.
08:33Blue Ribbon Award.
08:35Montreal Film Festival.
08:37Montreal, yes.
08:39International Film Festival.
08:41I went there.
08:43It was a foreign country.
08:45I think it was a subtitle supermarket.
08:47I don't think they understand my bad speech.
08:51I understand that.
08:53I got a prize.
08:55At first, I was not a criminal.
08:57I was thinking of filming a movie.
09:01But I didn't like it.
09:03Do you get late?
09:05No, I don't get late.
09:07You don't?
09:09I was late once.
09:11It was a movie called
09:13Wild Light.
09:15It was a Kadokawa movie.
09:17It was a Takakura movie.
09:19I went there on the first day.
09:21I went there on the first day.
09:23Mr. Takakura came in.
09:25It was about 10 o'clock.
09:27I thought it was okay.
09:29So I went there at 10 o'clock the next day.
09:31They were all standing in front of the studio.
09:35They were all standing in front of the studio.
09:37I was like,
09:39why?
09:41They were all there.
09:43They were all there.
09:45It started at 10 o'clock.
09:47I thought it was 10 o'clock.
09:49I thought it was 10 o'clock.
09:51Anyway!
09:53Go.
09:55I didn't care who the staff was.
09:57I didn't care who the staff was.
09:59When I said something negative,
10:01I thought I'd leave.
10:03When you were scolded
10:05or said something bad,
10:07you thought you'd leave.
10:09How old were you?
10:11I was 27.
10:13Before you joined Ishara Army.
10:15And then?
10:17I didn't say anything.
10:19You didn't get scolded by anyone?
10:21Yes.
10:23How is Mr. Takakura?
10:25I don't remember.
10:27I'm not the kind of person to get angry, so I don't know.
10:30Everyone was hiding it, that Tatsuya was late.
10:33I'm sure you thought it was him in your stomach.
10:37Did we get along?
10:39No, it was normal.
10:41Tatsuya Hara...
10:43He usually says something, doesn't he?
10:45No, he didn't say anything.
10:46Did you have any admiration for the Japanese film world?
10:50Did you feel like, oh, I'm really meeting this person and acting with him?
10:53Not at all.
10:56I made my debut in Toei.
10:59I won't say his name, but he was a star.
11:03I was going to do a film with him, so I said hello.
11:07He said, we're going to do a film together.
11:10I was sitting on the sofa, and he said, oh, good luck, Hara.
11:14I thought, wow, it's everyone.
11:17You thought it was a bad feeling.
11:19So you met Watari first.
11:22After that, right?
11:24After that.
11:25I met Watari.
11:27That's how it changed.
11:29Oh, really?
11:30Yes.
11:32The best-selling film,
11:34Mistaken Car Choices, was released.
11:37Pink Lady, Nagisa's Sindbad, was a big hit.
11:41After that, it sold 1.45 million copies.
11:45In 1952,
11:48he appeared in the drama Seibu Keisatsu
11:51and met Tetsuya Watari.
11:54That's how Tetsuya Watari changed.
11:57After Seibu Keisatsu,
12:00Seibu Keisatsu was the Ishihara Corps, right?
12:02Yes.
12:03There was a press conference at the museum.
12:06At that time, Watari was the only one
12:09who wanted to meet me at a nearby cafe
12:12before the press conference.
12:15So I said, I'll go.
12:17I went 15 minutes before the press conference.
12:21Mr. Watari was already there.
12:24When I went in, he stood up
12:27and shook my hand.
12:29He said, I'm Watari.
12:31He shook my hand and said,
12:33this person is a little different.
12:35At the press conference,
12:37everyone thought there were only people like this.
12:40He was a very polite person.
12:43Yes.
12:44From the moment you met him,
12:46you thought, oh, this person is...
12:48Yes, I thought he was amazing.
12:50So you joined the Ishihara Corps.
12:53Yes.
12:54I did Seibu Keisatsu for half a year.
12:57I wanted to go back to the movies.
13:00So I went back to the movies.
13:02After about two years,
13:04I was asked to go back to the Ishihara Corps.
13:08I said, okay.
13:10Then I was called back by Mr. Watari.
13:15Mr. Watari was your big brother.
13:20Yes, he was my big brother.
13:22From the day you met him for the first time,
13:25you thought he was your big brother.
13:28Yes, he was my big brother.
13:30After joining the Ishihara Corps,
13:32you didn't care about Mr. Ishihara.
13:34I didn't care about him.
13:36I just wanted to follow Mr. Watari.
13:38You didn't care about him.
13:41I was a little bold.
13:43You were more interested in Mr. Watari than Mr. Ishihara.
13:46Yes, I was.
13:48Until then, I had my own office in Toei.
13:53So I wasn't interested in the Ishihara Corps.
13:55After doing Seibu Keisatsu for the second time,
14:00I met Mr. Kobayashi.
14:02He was famous.
14:04He told me to join the Ishihara Corps.
14:07I told Mr. Watari about it.
14:09You consulted with Mr. Watari.
14:11Mr. Kobayashi told me about it.
14:13Mr. Watari said,
14:15Mr. Kobayashi, I entrusted this story to you.
14:20That's amazing.
14:22He said, don't talk to Mr. Kobayashi.
14:25He said, don't talk to Mr. Kobayashi.
14:27He said, don't talk to Mr. Kobayashi.
14:29He said, don't talk to Mr. Kobayashi.
14:31Mr. Kobayashi and Mr. Watari
14:33decided what to do with me.
14:36You became a perfect guarantor.
14:38Until then,
14:40Mr. Ishihara and Mr. Watari
14:42were directly managed by Mr. Kobayashi.
14:47Mr. Watari said,
14:49Mr. Ishihara,
14:51Mr. Watari,
14:53and me.
14:55Mr. Kobayashi said,
14:57Mr. Kobayashi,
14:59Mr. Kobayashi,
15:01Mr. Kobayashi,
15:03Mr. Kobayashi,
15:05Mr. Kobayashi,
15:07Mr. Kobayashi,
15:09and me.
15:11That's how I became Mr. Kobayashi.
15:13But we talked about it in the army.
15:15We didn't talk to Mr. Ishihara.
15:17We can't.
15:19That's not possible.
15:21He was part of the Ishihara Corps.
15:23That's right.
15:25But I still talked to Mr. Watari.
15:28Mr. Ishihara and Mr. Watari
15:30came over to visit us in the morning.
15:32came over to visit us in the morning.
15:34So, I tended to
15:35act aside.
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22:22He's a really big guy.
22:23Did he ever look irritated at you?
22:25Not really.
22:27He'd say things like,
22:29I can't see your back anymore.
22:34At first, he didn't think I was cute.
22:36That's right.
22:37But after he said that in Hawaii,
22:40did your relationship with Ishihara change?
22:43No, no. I think you can tell.
22:45If he's a guy like this,
22:47he has a straight face and a straight back.
22:51I think he's a funny guy.
22:53No, he was really nice to me.
22:56Did he ever warn you about your acting?
22:59He never talks about my acting.
23:03No one talks about my acting.
23:06If I talk about my acting,
23:08he'll laugh at me.
23:10But you have a small business.
23:12Like the Montreal Film Festival you mentioned earlier.
23:15That's a subtitle supermarket,
23:19so it doesn't matter.
23:21After this.
23:22It exploded.
23:24It was a fire in the sky.
23:26It exploded the ship.
23:28It exploded the ship?
23:30It didn't explode that much.
23:32The great master of Showa,
23:34Ishihara's explosion fire.
23:36When I watch his acting,
23:38his expression is similar to mine.
23:42It's his way of acting.
23:46Did you want to quit?
23:48You were with Ishihara until he closed his business.
23:55I thought my life was up to me.
23:59But you didn't want to quit?
24:02You didn't want to quit Ishihara,
24:04or you didn't want to do this business.
24:07I thought I could quit acting at any time.
24:10You can do a lot of things.
24:12It's dangerous,
24:14but you're happy, right?
24:16There are a lot of people,
24:18and you can do something with the next one.
24:20You're happy that so many people are interested in you, right?
24:23That's right.
24:24There are a lot of people in the movie industry.
24:32There are a lot of movies,
24:34but there are a lot of people who are interested in you.
24:37I was very grateful.
24:39I can watch movies on my cell phone.
24:41Do you understand?
24:43I can watch movies on my cell phone.
24:45You can watch movies on your cell phone.
24:47I don't know what you're doing,
24:49but I'm watching movies on my cell phone.
24:51I'm watching movies on my cell phone.
24:53It's really a time like that.
24:55It's changed a lot.
24:57I'm watching this world now.
24:59Ishihara is a professional actor.
25:03You have to get used to it.
25:05You can't live without it.
25:07I had a lot of skin.
25:09What was interesting?
25:11I don't know.
25:13I don't know.
25:15I don't know.
25:17I'm serious about stupid things.
25:19I'm serious about stupid things.
25:21Like blowing up?
25:23I can blow up normally.
25:25I can blow up normally.
25:27When Ishihara was shooting,
25:29he was told that he couldn't meet Penpen.
25:31Really?
25:33He was told that he couldn't meet Penpen.
25:35He was told that he couldn't meet Penpen.
25:37I did a lot of stupid things.
25:39Didn't anyone die?
25:41I blew up.
25:43I didn't die.
25:45I didn't die.
25:47I didn't die.
25:49I didn't die.
25:51I didn't die.
25:53I didn't die.
25:55I didn't die.
25:57I didn't die.
25:59I didn't die.
26:01I didn't die.
26:03I was the type to go forward.
26:05I was the type to go forward.
26:07I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:09I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:11I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:13I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:15I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:17I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:19I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:21I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:23I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:25I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:27I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:29I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:31I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:33I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:35I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:37I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:39I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:41I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:43I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:45I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:47I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:49I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:51I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:53I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:55I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
26:57I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:00I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:02I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:04I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:06I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:08I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:10I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:12I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:14I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:16I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:18I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:20I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:22I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:24I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:26I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:28I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:30I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:32I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:34I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:36I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:38I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:40I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:42I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:44I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:46I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:48I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:50I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:52I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:54I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:56I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
27:58I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:00I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:02I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:04I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:06I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:08I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:10I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:12I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:14I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:16I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:18I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:20I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:22I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:24I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:26I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:28I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:30I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:32I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:34I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:36I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:38I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:40I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:42I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:44I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:46I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:48I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:50I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:52I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:54I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:56I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
28:58I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:00I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:02I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:04I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:06I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:08I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:10I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:12I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:14I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:16I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:18I was in the shadow of a motorbike.
29:21The best part was to turn on my side
29:24and go inside from the front to the rear.
29:27I wanted to fall like that.
29:29Compared to what I think,
29:31if I weigh the back a little more,
29:33the weight would come from my body.
29:35so you weighed the back heavily.
29:37then when the skate was slickened...
29:39I wanted to fall like that,
29:41but I ended up falling like that.
29:43Because it was heavy, you could not jump?
29:45Yes, I could not reach.
29:47No, no, no, no, no, no.
29:48Why do you do that?
29:49I have to check it over and over again to make sure it's not broken.
29:52But it's a one-hit challenge.
29:53One-hit challenge.
29:54That's right.
29:55So then,
29:57uh,
29:58Stuntman.
29:59He's dead.
30:01His whole body is fractured.
30:04Fractured whole body.
30:06And then...
30:07Wow.
30:08And then after that,
30:10he comes to the office,
30:12and he's in this state,
30:15Gibson.
30:16Gibson.
30:17All over his body.
30:18We were all in shock.
30:19We couldn't get up.
30:20That's so cute.
30:21No, no, no.
30:22We were all laughing at that.
30:23That's awful.
30:24It's awful, isn't it?
30:25It's awful, isn't it?
30:26You pushed him, didn't you?
30:27I didn't push him.
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34:48I thought it would be cool if I could do something like mechanical gymnastics and do a backflip.
34:54Then I went to the ground and the captain came and said,
34:58You play rugby from tomorrow.
35:01I said yes.
35:02I don't know if he's a rebellious person or an honest person.
35:05I don't know.
35:06It depends on the person.
35:07It depends on the person.
35:08If this person tells me to do it, I'll do it.
35:10That's right.
35:11And then rugby.
35:12Was it fun to try it?
35:13The first month was hard.
35:15But then it got fun.
35:17So I failed in medical school.
35:21Your father was strict, wasn't he?
35:24My father...
35:26How many generations do you have?
35:28Nine?
35:30Nine generations.
35:32It's an old family.
35:33Are they all doctors?
35:34No, no.
35:36Until my great-grandfather,
35:39I didn't do anything.
35:41You didn't do anything?
35:43In the old days,
35:46we used to eat at the bank.
35:50How did you do that?
35:51You didn't go out to work?
35:53When I went out to work,
35:55I lost all my property.
35:57I didn't have to work.
35:59You couldn't work.
36:00I couldn't work.
36:01So I didn't have the ability to work.
36:05My grandfather said,
36:07You can't do this.
36:09He was a criminal.
36:11He was a criminal.
36:13He went to Nagoya Institute of Technology.
36:16It's a small town in Tokyo.
36:19He went to the Department of Engineering.
36:21He was rich at that time.
36:23He got his first salary
36:26from a bank.
36:28It was a revolutionary thing.
36:30He bought a lot of land in Nagoya.
36:33He was a prefect.
36:35He was a prefect?
36:36Yes.
36:37His son wanted to be a doctor.
36:41So he got his father and uncle
36:44to be doctors.
36:47His brother,
36:49when he graduated from Nagoya University,
36:53he got a blood donation.
36:55At that time,
36:57he bought Streptomycin.
36:59A special drug.
37:00Yes, a special drug.
37:02He bought it and
37:04gave up the land.
37:07So he became poor all of a sudden.
37:10He was poor.
37:11He was poor.
37:13Did it help him?
37:15No, it didn't.
37:17His father became a doctor.
37:20That's amazing.
37:22Was your father a surgeon?
37:24He was a surgeon.
37:26He was a surgeon.
37:28He was a surgeon.
37:29He was a surgeon.
37:31When I was in junior high school,
37:33I became a doctor.
37:35You were the eldest son?
37:36Yes, I was.
37:37Of course.
37:38I wanted to be a doctor.
37:39Since I was a kid,
37:41everyone around me told me
37:43I wanted to be a doctor.
37:46But you got good grades, right?
37:48Yes, in elementary school.
37:49Of course you wanted to be a doctor.
37:51I thought so.
37:52But when I was in junior high school,
37:54I was a little down.
37:55You were a little down.
37:56I talked to my friends around me.
37:59What did I end up doing?
38:02You became an architect.
38:04That's amazing.
38:05I didn't know what it was like.
38:07Once you start,
38:09you don't care anymore.
38:11Do you want to build something?
38:14With your own design?
38:18It's going to cost a lot of money,
38:20so I don't want to do it.
38:22It's not as expensive as Mr. Kobayashi.
38:24If I could afford it,
38:26I would build it.
38:29What else do you think is wonderful about Mr. Watari?
38:33There are so many things I don't know.
38:35You don't know?
38:36He's a great actor.
38:39He's got a good face.
38:41When was this?
38:42This was after he got sick.
38:44That's right.
38:45If I could be an actor now,
38:53it would be Mr. Watari.
38:55If it wasn't for Mr. Watari,
38:57I don't know what I'd be doing now.
39:00That's true,
39:02but do you still feel like you're Mr. Watari?
39:06I feel like I'm Mr. Watari.
39:08That's the only thing I have now.
39:12I think it's because of Mr. Watari.
39:15How do you feel after he's gone?
39:17That's that.
39:18Is that okay?
39:19It's okay.
39:20Do you feel lost?
39:21I feel lost.
39:22Are you anxious?
39:24If it was Mr. Watari,
39:28I don't know what I'd be doing now.
39:32You played the role of the Yakuza boss.
39:38When I was thinking about how to act,
39:42you told me,
39:44this is what Mr. Watari would be like.
39:47Sometimes,
39:49when I watch my own plays,
39:51I feel like I look like him.
39:55I'm not good at acting.
39:59You're not good at it.
40:01But Mr. Watari,
40:03you were in a really good movie.
40:05Yes, I was in a good movie,
40:07but I'm not good at acting.
40:09You should be good at acting.
40:12What do you think was good about this movie?
40:16In this movie?
40:20I don't know.
40:21You should check it out.
40:24I don't know.
40:26I always think I'm not good at acting.
40:32When I act with other actors,
40:38I'm impressed by how good they are.
40:44When you were on the bike in the beginning of the movie,
40:49were you more confident?
40:53No, I wasn't.
40:55You weren't?
40:56I wasn't confident at all.
40:59I was in Toei at the time,
41:02and there was a person called Enki Jim.
41:05On the first day, he kept saying,
41:07Tachi, Tachi,
41:09you don't have to remember the lines.
41:11Really.
41:13What do you mean, you don't have to remember the lines?
41:16He kept saying,
41:18Tachi, you don't have to remember the lines.
41:20Who told you that?
41:22I remember now,
41:24but on the first day,
41:26he kept saying,
41:28Tachi, you don't have to remember the lines.
41:30Were you able to remember the lines?
41:32I don't know if I was able to,
41:34but he said,
41:36Tachi, you don't have to remember the lines.
41:40I think it's because of the atmosphere.
41:43I don't know if it supports the screen.
41:45Tsurube-san, do you think so?
41:47I think Tsurube-san supports it.
41:49When he appears,
41:51you can only see Tsurube-san.
41:53I don't think you remember the lines at all.
41:55I remember them.
41:57I don't think you remember them.
41:59Well, you know.
42:01In the past,
42:03I used to put a lot of stickers on the wall.
42:06Like a soldier on a log.
42:08I used to write on the ground while walking.
42:11Did you do that?
42:13Yes.
42:14I can see that.
42:16I was thinking.
42:18The bad thing was that
42:20I was standing on the next line.
42:23By yourself?
42:25Yes, I was standing on the next line.
42:27That's why I couldn't remember the lines.
42:29That's strange.
42:31Why did you want to be an actor, Tsurube-san?
42:34You suddenly changed your attitude.
42:37After this,
42:39Tachi Hiroshi-san asked Tsurube-san a question.
42:43I quit my job to get married.
42:47That was right after you became a disciple, right?
42:49Yes, right after I became a disciple.
42:52Why did you want to be an actor, Tsurube-san?
42:55You suddenly changed your attitude.
42:57Oh, me?
42:59Thank you very much.
43:01I was in high school,
43:03so I went to a university and went to Ochi prefecture.
43:07I quit my job to get married.
43:12You fell in love?
43:14That's right.
43:16That's a good story.
43:18I quit my job to get married.
43:22Then I became a disciple.
43:24I wanted to be an actor.
43:26I had a goal.
43:29I needed money to have a regular job.
43:32I had to pass the audition.
43:35I passed all the auditions.
43:38From radio to TV.
43:41In Osaka?
43:42Yes, in Osaka.
43:43That was right after you became a disciple?
43:45Yes, right after I became a disciple.
43:46I became a disciple in 1943.
43:48I was already famous in 1949.
43:50I was famous from then until now.
43:54In 1949, I was 24 years old.
43:57I joined the company in 1947.
44:00I became a disciple and auditioned for two years.
44:03I got married in the second year.
44:08I'm still married.
44:10I thought I had to be a good person.
44:14Then I passed the audition.
44:16Did you act with Sayuri Yoshinaga?
44:18Yes, I acted with Sayuri Yoshinaga.
44:20That's amazing.
44:21I don't know who the guest is.
44:23Ask me more.
44:26I love Mr. Tachi.
44:28When I listen to him, I feel like my heart is filled with him.
44:32He's a shy person.
44:34Everyone laughs at him.
44:36I didn't know there was such an actor in Japan.
44:40Thank you very much.
44:42Mr. Tachi is getting more and more handsome as he gets older.
44:46That's right.
44:47He really is.
44:49He's getting old.
44:50I had an image of him as a bad guy.
44:53He's getting more and more handsome.
44:56I think he's conscious.
44:58Has anything changed in you?
45:00Nothing has changed.
45:02If anything has changed, it's because of Mr. Tachi.
45:05It's because of Mr. Tachi.
45:08What do you value?
45:11How do you live?
45:13I feel like I've learned how to treat people and how to be considerate.
45:21Mr. Watari is really amazing.
45:25He hasn't changed much in terms of age,
45:28but he makes people feel that way.
45:32That's amazing.
45:33If I remember correctly, Mr. Watari really likes bonfires.
45:38That's right.
45:39Bonfires.
45:40He likes bonfires.
45:41Bonfires are noisy.
45:43Noisy?
45:44He really likes the smoke coming out of the bonfire.
45:51He doesn't like the smoke coming out of the bonfire.
45:54He likes the smoke coming out of the bonfire.
45:59He does that in his garden.
46:01He does that in his garden.
46:03He stares at the bonfire.
46:05I don't understand that.
46:07You don't understand?
46:10Mr. Hiroshi Tachi is 74 years old.
46:14He talks about his current life and his future dreams.
46:20Is there anything you still want to do?
46:23Is there a dream you want to make come true?
46:25I want to make a movie.
46:29Are you going to make a movie?
46:31I don't think I have the talent to be a director.
46:33I don't even have the talent to be an actor.
46:35I want to make a movie with Mr. Tachi.
46:41But I don't think I can do it in one take.
46:44You said you wanted to make a movie with Mr. Watari.
46:48But you've never done it.
46:50I've never made a movie with him.
46:52I didn't know that.
46:54I've never made a movie with him.
46:57Mr. Ishiwara also said he would make a movie with me.
47:02He said he would make a movie with me.
47:06He said he would make a movie with me.
47:08He said he would make a movie with me.
47:13I was a little worried.
47:17Don't say that.
47:19I don't want to say that.
47:23You have to make a movie.
47:25I have to make a movie.
47:27I'm putting in some money.
47:30I'm putting in some money.
47:32You're like a producer.
47:34I'm like a producer.
47:36That's interesting.
47:38But you have responsibilities.
47:40You've been making money with the Dangerous Decker series.
47:42You've been making money with the Dangerous Decker series.
47:44You've been making money with the Dangerous Decker series.
47:46You've been making money with the Dangerous Decker series.
47:48What kind of day is today for you?
47:51I met my two favorite people today.
47:55It was a wonderful day.
47:59Don't be shy.
48:01They're both shy.
48:04You're right.
48:06Tachi is shy.
48:08He's a little...
48:10I love him.
48:12I want to hug him.
48:14You want to hug Tachi?
48:16I think Tachi is a good guy.
48:18Please hug him.
48:20No.
48:22最後に昭和の大先輩、橘博さんからの人生のお言葉。
48:41次回は松本隆さん、風を集めての裏話を告白。
48:52次回予告。