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00:00It's so they got a depth piece on the defensive line.
00:03Woohoo!
00:04Yeah.
00:05Let's get excited.
00:06A depth piece.
00:07Well, hold on.
00:08I guess, and I don't want to fall prey to my ears only listening to like three people
00:14and then calling it a thing, but so can we dip our toe in the water and see if this is
00:18a thing?
00:19Sure.
00:20888-957-9570, did some of you take today as some sort of a litmus test?
00:27Because whether or not the 49ers are contenders?
00:32Am I hearing that right?
00:33Like, are some of you questioning that because the Niners are 4-4 or because they've been
00:40a little disappointing in this spot or that spot or whatever?
00:46The wild card race doesn't look like it's fallen their way in the NFC.
00:50They sit there a half game out of first place in the NFC West, analytics all firmly in
00:58their favor as the favorite to win that division.
01:01They're acquiring a bunch of NFL talent in the next few weeks.
01:05Two actual real nice players this weekend in Christian McCaffrey and Jawan Jennings.
01:13Like I heard a lot of people today watching what the Niners were doing, sort of like almost
01:17like they were playing poker, like they were going to declare.
01:20Are you going high or are you going low?
01:23I'm like...
01:24They folded.
01:26They folded.
01:27What do you mean?
01:28They didn't either.
01:29They neither went high nor went low.
01:30Okay.
01:31They added a like depth piece at D-line.
01:34They didn't improve what you wanted.
01:36Wide receiver room.
01:37Yeah, I wanted them to.
01:38And they didn't improve, really for me, the D-line with a front end or, you know, an edge
01:42rusher who was out there who could be had for maybe not a song but two songs.
01:48And so instead they spent a seventh round pick on a guy who hasn't played for Houston
01:52much this year and they brought in a backup.
01:58But are you translating that to mean that the Niners are not all in on this year or
02:03not contenders?
02:04I translate that to mean that they think that they have enough to be contenders.
02:09And I don't know if I believe that.
02:11You've had a hard time stopping the run, so you brought in a guy that Houston was willing
02:16to cast off for a seventh round pick next year, which is less than a song.
02:21It's like a bar, not even a full song.
02:24And so that's the move you made.
02:26You brought in a cast off from another team that's contending.
02:29So a contending team had a guy on their team that they weren't using.
02:33And they said, yeah, you can have them.
02:35Give us a seventh next year.
02:37There you go.
02:38That's your upgrade.
02:39For me, that's not a real upgrade.
02:41That to me is pretty underwhelming for a team that has needs.
02:45But put the move itself aside and let's examine the larger picture here.
02:50I guess I didn't realize, and maybe this is on me, I didn't realize that these unfortunate
02:57losses to the Rams and Cardinals, I didn't realize that in the minds of some, so it seems.
03:03Again, I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill, but so it seems for some people
03:10that means that this just isn't the Niners' year, so oh well.
03:15Is that?
03:16That's not it, but.
03:17I'm hearing, not from you, but like the whole idea of we're going to see the Niners, if
03:23they make a big move, it's because they believe in their team, and if they don't, it's because
03:27they don't.
03:28And I don't.
03:29That's not the way I see it.
03:30I didn't even.
03:31Yeah, well, me neither.
03:32The way I see it is you have needs and you can go from being in a precarious spot, which
03:38is where you are.
03:39You're in a bit of a precarious spot because you lost two games you shouldn't have lost.
03:43You could have gotten a lot better today by adding somebody, by making a bold move
03:48like you have last year and the year before and three years before when you got McCaffrey.
03:53You didn't have to do something super, super bold, but you could have gotten better.
03:57You could have gotten a better defensive lineman.
03:59You could have gotten an edge rusher for a fifth round pick, and you settled on basically
04:04a cast off for a seventh round pick from next year.
04:08You basically brought in a backup.
04:10You brought in a backup D lineman, which, okay, you needed D line help because you lost
04:15James Hardgrave.
04:16That's fine.
04:17That's the move you made.
04:18But I think your point to me sounds like it's more about who they didn't get as opposed
04:22to they did.
04:23Like Davis, there's no, there's no issue with that, right?
04:27There's no problem.
04:28You basically got a backup middle infielder, um, a rotational piece.
04:33Sure.
04:34It's a rotational piece.
04:35You got a, uh, uh, not as closer, not a starter.
04:39You got a middle reliever.
04:40Yeah.
04:41But a rotational piece at a spot where you're thin.
04:43Sure.
04:44Sure.
04:45But again, so that, again, I'm not offended by that either, but it did not feel to me
04:50like a move like Detroit.
04:52They made bold moves, Kansas city, but Detroit and, and I would argue that both of those
04:57moves were because they lost people at those positions and that became an absolute must
05:04have need.
05:05But the Niners lost someone at that position, which position at D lineman, they lost Jay
05:10Vaughn Hargrave a long time ago.
05:11And since then you've been getting crushed, but you, you brought in a backup and they
05:16hadn't bring in.
05:17They've not been getting crushed in the run game.
05:19No, they haven't.
05:20Look at the numbers.
05:21Yes.
05:22James Conner gashed you.
05:23Kyron Williams crushed you and Kareem hunt.
05:27Are these not games that actually happened?
05:31Look at the yards per carry.
05:32And I think you're a overstating it and B you're bringing up games when Jay Vaughn was
05:36still playing.
05:37So that's irrelevant.
05:38Like I, again, they, they lost a defensive tackle who, by the way, is not very good against
05:45the run to begin with.
05:46I'd argue his backups, including the guy they got today by metrics are better against the
05:51run than he was.
05:52He's better against the pass, but that's not really what we're talking about.
05:55So you bring up the lions.
05:57They got a pass rusher, right?
05:59Aiden Hutchinson and, and, and the chiefs, they went and got a receiver, right?
06:03Rishi rice.
06:04I mean, that's one of the reasons I wanted the Niners to get a receiver because Brandon
06:08Iuke and receivers were out there cheap.
06:10There's a bunch of them.
06:11Exactly.
06:12So that's a little head scratcher to me.
06:13Number one, I mentioned the Deontay Johnson thing last week was something I w I would
06:17have gotten in on that.
06:19He was free.
06:20He was essentially free.
06:22Now the name that I thought was actually kind of sexy to people, even though, look, come
06:27on linemen in the NFL.
06:29It's not like most people cruising around, know who these people are, but the cat from
06:32the giants, Aziz, Ujulari, he's a linebacker.
06:37Someone can rush the passer.
06:38That's someone the Niners were rumored to be in on.
06:41But you know what?
06:42We don't know.
06:43Maybe, maybe Dre, maybe they think he's going to be ready to roll in two weeks and looks
06:48good.
06:49I don't know.
06:50I don't know.
06:51But like, again, I'm with you.
06:53I don't think today was a bold move.
06:56I just, I'm not going to be demanding that you go get someone at a position where you
07:02think you've, you've already got someone.
07:05I like, I don't think there were enough snaps for Z'Darrius Smith, for example.
07:10That's a starter.
07:11Right.
07:12Right.
07:13And the Niners have two edge rushing starters.
07:14Yeah.
07:15But they don't play 95% of the snaps.
07:18They play about 70% each, you know, both is usually about 70, 75.
07:22And so you have a deeper rotation and you can work a guy in.
07:25And so I look at rushing the quarterback, which has been a problem.
07:30And we know that this defensive coordinator does not blitz a lot.
07:34They rush a lot of four man, and I have not seen a lot of Floyd pressures.
07:39He's done okay.
07:40And both has been good.
07:41But you can't tell me that you wouldn't like to have more quarterback pressures when you
07:45go away from Floyd or away from Bosa when those guys get arrest.
07:49And I also thought you could have brought in a more impactful defensive tackle than
07:54Khalil Davis to join a D tackle group.
07:57That's been underwhelming.
07:58I don't know who was available.
07:59Was there someone that you like that you had your eye on?
08:03Many people were talking about Jadeveon Clowney as a guy who was gettable.
08:07And so I don't think he was like, I mean, I, you know, we're seeing he reported a couple
08:10of days ago that a lot of those names that get thrown out, like, you know, three weeks
08:15ago, it's like, let's get Max Crosby.
08:16Well, Max Crosby wasn't going anywhere.
08:18Well, that's Max Crosby.
08:19Yeah.
08:20I was looking at reports this morning from, you know, five hours ago where the dolphins
08:25and the eagles were both eyeing Clowney as a possible target.
08:28And so I do think that he was available and out there, but it comes down to what you want
08:32to expend in draft capital.
08:35And you know, they lost Hargrave after the Ram game.
08:37And I don't think even though he's more of a pass rushing D tackle, he still is better
08:43against the run than what they've had.
08:45Because you look at the subsequent games in Arizona, James Connor, after you lost Hargrave,
08:51they were able to run all the way down your throat in the Kansas City.
08:55Same thing.
08:56Fourth quarter.
08:57Exactly.
08:58Not in the first half, though.
08:59You know, again, I mean, Cowboys have the worst run game in the league, but bottled
09:03them up.
09:04Again, I'm not saying it's great, but I actually, I don't agree that the nine to run defense
09:10has gotten worse since Hargrave went out.
09:12I actually think it's gotten a little bit better.
09:15And I'm not doing that by metrics.
09:16I'm just doing that by, by, you know, what, what I see with, with my eyes, you know, you
09:21mentioned Kyron.
09:22Yeah.
09:23Kyron Williams, to me, for four quarters, if you wanted to talk about someone who was
09:28like effective, gashing seven, eight, nine yards, that's the guy and Hargrave was still
09:33in for, for that game.
09:35So you get hurt in that game, but I know in the second half, for me, it was the James
09:40Connor game where, and also, you know, the Kansas City game where it became just Kareem
09:44Hunt.
09:45Here you go, come have some.
09:47And it was just off tackle all day, right up the middle.
09:50And so yes, Khalil Davis might be a good run stopper.
09:53I haven't watched enough tape on him.
09:55I just look at what he's done with Houston so far, and it's been, you know, really part
10:00time play at best.
10:01And that's, that's your solution.
10:03Yeah.
10:04He plays a little surprising.
10:05That's fine.
10:06Yeah.
10:07I get that.
10:08He plays about a third of the snaps so far in Houston.
10:09That's been his role so far this year.
10:10I guess what I'm getting at, and I'm not trying to say like this move is a depth piece, whatever.
10:16And would I have loved to see the Niners have a bigger swing?
10:18Sure.
10:19But to me, it's about how we translate it.
10:20Let me, let me read a text to you and see if you buy this.
10:23Okay.
10:24Comcast business text line.
10:25Thank you for listening.
10:26Thank you for, uh, for diving in here.
10:28Nine, two, five.
10:29What it feels to me is the 49ers realize how far they are from a super bowl this year.
10:36So they've decided to regroup and go for it next year.
10:41This roster as currently constructed is nowhere near contention, in my opinion.
10:46Agree?
10:47No, no.
10:48Yeah.
10:49I mean, I mean, I don't, I don't think the Niners feel that way at all.
10:51If they were in like the NFC North, then maybe if they were four and four and they
10:57were three games back and they were in third place or they were in last place in the division,
11:01then maybe you could look at that and say, well, I mean, to win that division, to get
11:04a wild card, that would be really, really tough.
11:07But you are in a division where you just need to like beat your division opponents and win
11:11a couple more games and you can still win this division.
11:15So I don't see it that way.