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00:00Baldy was on with the morning show,
00:02and this is what he said about Joey Bosa.
00:04Well, I mean, I was around both Joey and Nick
00:06quite a bit this summer.
00:07You know, they work out at this park in Fort Lauderdale
00:11every morning when they're home,
00:12and they train unbelievably hard.
00:15I mean, they leave it on the field every day
00:18in that heat down there.
00:19I think Joey's got a lot.
00:20I mean, he's been frustrated by the injuries,
00:23the number of injuries that he's had.
00:25It's taken its toll.
00:26But, you know, one thing about Joey is he's all in.
00:28He's a great teammate.
00:29They're best friends, Joey and Nick.
00:31They literally spend all their time together
00:33and their dad, you know, down there in South Florida.
00:35Joey's got the boat, Nick's on the boat.
00:37I mean, you know, they're best friends.
00:39Considering what they have on the roster right now,
00:41he's better than anything else.
00:43Opposite Nick Bosa right now.
00:44Look, if he can come produce
00:48at a healthy, cost-effective number,
00:51then I'm not gonna kick and scream about this.
00:54But here's what I'm also not gonna do.
00:56I am not gonna get sucked into the fact
00:58that they're brothers.
01:00I don't care.
01:01I don't care that they're brothers.
01:02I really don't.
01:04Taylor and Tyler Rogers were out in the bullpen
01:06and we got 18 stories about,
01:08oh, this one's left-handed and this one's like, okay.
01:10When do you get outs?
01:13I'm sorry.
01:15To me, that is actually the tone
01:17of this offseason with the Niners, okay?
01:20You went six and 11.
01:22I don't care if you're brothers.
01:24I don't care if you're best friends.
01:26I don't care if you look alike.
01:28I don't care if you're the same height.
01:30I don't care if you went to college together.
01:32I don't care.
01:35Do you produce at a cost-effective level?
01:38Your name can be whatever the hell you want it to be then.
01:41I don't care where you're from.
01:42I don't care about anything else.
01:46That was not okay last year.
01:49It was not okay.
01:51And so the reasons that led to that,
01:53some of them their fault, some of them not.
01:56But the Niners got sucked in and I get why
01:59because they lost the Super Bowl in overtime
02:01and it's super painful and hard to move on from.
02:04But beyond that, we're not doing nostalgia this offseason
02:09if I'm running the Niners.
02:11And we're not doing kitsch and cute
02:13and like, oh, we have the same name.
02:16Turns out we're brothers.
02:17Isn't this fun?
02:19Bosa and Bosa, the two edges together at last.
02:22And if you look at pro football focus
02:24and you look at what Joey Bosa did,
02:27first of all, he only played 503 snaps
02:30as opposed to 693 for his brother,
02:32but his pro football focus ranking was really bad, 61.1.
02:38Nick actually had the best ranking
02:40or the best rating rather of any Niner defender,
02:43better than Fred Warner even.
02:44So everybody wants to say that Nick Bosa had a bad year
02:49and I'm not saying that pro football focus
02:50is the end all be all, but you're right about fans
02:55and what they think.
02:55Fans wanna see sack numbers.
02:57And if you don't get sacks,
02:58then you didn't really do your job if you're an edge rusher.
03:02And that's not really the case with Nick Bosa.
03:04He had a good year,
03:05maybe not as good of a year as he's had in the past,
03:07but Nick Bosa was good, Joey Bosa was not.
03:11And so that's why the Chargers are moving off him.
03:14If Joey was really, really good last year
03:16for a team that is trending in the right direction,
03:19they were a playoff team last year,
03:20they wouldn't get rid of him.
03:22Again, he missed some games.
03:24I know Nick did too,
03:25but I'm not in the camp that Joey can't play,
03:29but that to me, it's all gotta be,
03:32I think this is the Niners mood right now.
03:34It is bang for the buck.
03:35And so that's all that's gonna matter.
03:37And I know we won't know that until the season starts,
03:39but that has got to be the way.
03:41I am not getting sucked into, ooh, this is a cool story.
03:46The only thing that I wanna be interested in
03:48is do you produce up to your number?
03:51Because as you pointed out,
03:53the one thing the Niners, I already know,
03:55are gonna lead the league in this year
03:57is dollars that go out the window for no production.
04:00Because they're gonna be paying a bunch of people
04:02who aren't even there.
04:03So that is what I think John Lynch is talking about
04:08in terms of what's gotta stop.
04:10They gotta stop paying dollars for no production.
04:13So your last name can be whatever you want.
04:15If you're not gonna match your dollar, get out of here.
04:18And that, unfortunately, is not as easy as just that
04:22because you're gonna have injuries and whatnot.
04:24And Christian McCaffrey last year,
04:26you paid him a good amount of money.
04:28He was number one in running backs as far as salary goes.
04:32And he only played, what, two and a half games.
04:34And the dead cap number that I rolled out already,
04:37you're about 50 million in dead cap this year.
04:40And guys who won't be on your team, for sure, we know that.
04:43So you're right, Mark.
04:44You can't just pay 20 million a year
04:47for Joey Bosa to come in and play eight or nine games.
04:50And that's why I think that this is a non-starter
04:53unless he really wants to play with his brother
04:56and he really wants to take five million a year,
04:59which I doubt that he does.
05:00I don't think it's that low.
05:02I think the whole, look,
05:04the Niners offered Drake Greenlaw, reportedly,
05:08a $10 million one-year prove-it deal.
05:11That's what 10 million is.
05:1210 million's a prove-it deal.
05:14I don't think Joey Bosa's in a prove-it situation.
05:18He's better than that.
05:19So look, the 2025 thing, yeah, probably not.
05:23But I don't think it necessarily has to go
05:26all the way down to 10,
05:27especially if you're talking about a one-year deal.
05:30This is the way I look at it.
05:32Joey Bosa is still young enough and good enough
05:36that he's gonna get some pretty big offers.
05:38And if that's what he's looking for,
05:40then the Niners are not for him
05:42and he's not for the Niners.
05:44If he really wants to be a Niner
05:46and he'll do this for shorter and for less, then fine.
05:50I'm not, like, I don't know exactly
05:51what the right number is.
05:5210 feels like, like if that's,
05:55the Niners are reportedly very interested in this.
05:58If 10's the number, I'd argue they're not interested in this
06:01because they're not gonna get him for that, I don't think.
06:03Well, unless he really wants to play with his brother.
06:05That's really, really, really
06:07wanting to play with his brother.
06:08Well, he's already made an absolute blank ton of money,
06:12so, and he's 30.
06:14So maybe it's a one-year deal where you try it
06:16and you see if you can make something happen
06:18with your brother before you go out there and try it again.
06:20And they paid Leonard Floyd a two-year, $20 million deal
06:25to be the opposite edge
06:26and they still have him on the books.
06:28And so, you know, it's not like-
06:30They might be letting him go, though.
06:32They might, and that will be a little bit more
06:34on the dead cap that you have to throw onto the pile
06:36of money that you're spending to not have an actual player.
06:39I would think that they would keep Floyd
06:42and draft somebody and try to stockpile depth
06:45as opposed to paying Joey Bosa, like you're saying,
06:4810 million, even if it's 10 million,
06:50I don't think that Joey's gonna settle for that.
06:53So do you wanna pay Joey 15 million for one year?
06:56Maybe. That feels like a lot.
06:57Yeah, I mean, the way that that's all structured,
07:00you know, again, if they really feel
07:03like that's someone who will produce over there,
07:05maybe they would do that.
07:06But let's go to Jonathan in the city on this.
07:10We'll take some calls here.
07:10Hey, Jonathan, what's going on?
07:13Hey, you know, just delivering mail.
07:15Just wanna say, man, no on Joey.
07:19I mean, come on, this is another guy
07:21that they have to overpay.
07:22I would like him if he would just, you know,
07:25maybe Nick would pay him under the table
07:27and not count on the cap and all that stuff.
07:30And I don't know if I'm very confident
07:32about the offseason and all this,
07:34because you know why, guys?
07:36Whoever made a person or group,
07:39whoever made those decisions is a lot.
07:42It's a chain of decisions and it's all bad.
07:45Our guy is still in the building, man.
07:46Whoever overpaid for a bunch of overrated dudes,
07:51our guy is still in the building, man.
07:52So as a 49er fan, I'm really not very optimistic
07:58about this coming year.
07:59But you know what I'm optimistic about
08:01is seeing you guys on the radio, bro.
08:05Jonathan, thank you very much.
08:06That was pretty fun to see you, Jonathan.
08:07Yeah, that was.
08:09I thought he said Radio Row.
08:10I'm like, Super Bowl's still 11 months away.
08:12I'm not thinking about Radio Row yet,
08:14but maybe, I mean, the Super Bowl is here, so maybe.
08:19Maybe we'll get to go to Radio Row this upcoming year.
08:21Maybe we will, but yeah, like I'll just say this.
08:25Jonathan's not wrong by any stretch
08:27in saying that the Niners ended up
08:29with some overpriced lack of production signings.
08:34I just think that we as fans,
08:36we tend to only remember those.
08:39So when he talks about whoever made those decisions,
08:41he's still in the building.
08:42The Niners have made a lot of good decisions.
08:45The Niners have made a lot of good draft picks
08:48and a lot of good decisions
08:49because they've won a lot of football games
08:52and they've gone to multiple Super Bowls, this regime.
08:55So I always want to stop short of painting them as inept
09:00because they're just not.
09:02But yes, they are in a situation
09:04where I think they want to be a little less generous,
09:07clean it up, be a little bit more cutthroat.
09:10And I don't know that Joey Bosa fits that narrative.
09:13I don't think he does.
09:14And you mentioned Leonard Floyd,
09:16and if they part with him post-June 1st,
09:18it turns out to be, it's a dead cap hit,
09:22but they also get a lot of savings this year.
09:24So it's almost a net neutral.
09:26So they might do that.
09:28But if you look at this team and forget the money part of it,
09:30you need probably two or three interior defensive linemen.
09:36You need an edge rusher.
09:38And I think you need another tackle.
09:40You probably need at least one guard, maybe more.
09:43Apologies to Ben Bartsch who got signed.
09:45Aaron Banks will be gone.
09:47You probably need a center.
09:48You're going to need a corner, wide receiver.
09:51I don't even know how many wide receivers you need,
09:53but probably a couple.
09:54And you're going to need a running back
09:56if you don't keep Jordan Mason.
09:58So-
09:58Remember there's the draft.
09:59A lot of those players are going to come through the draft.
10:01But it's hard to look at a lot of those positions
10:04and think, all right, rookie, boom, you're in.
10:07We're going to be good because we got you.
10:09You're a rookie and we're going to count on you.
10:10No, but they're going to have to hit on some of them.
10:12They are, absolutely.
10:13I mean, what do they got, 11 picks?
10:14They're not going to hit on all of them,
10:16but you better hit on some of them.
10:18You know what I mean?
10:18Well, and last year was amazing where you had-
10:20It was pretty good.
10:21Renardo Green was a hit and Dominic Pooney was a hit.
10:24Mustafa, big time.
10:25Malik Mustafa was a hit.
10:27Ricky Pearsall looks to be-
10:28I think he's going to be a hit, yeah.
10:30Yeah, it was probably a base on balls the first year,
10:32but he's trending toward being a hit.
10:35So you did amazing last year in the draft,
10:37but previous to that,
10:39and I can pull out my father-in-law's list
10:41that he hand wrote on a yellow legal pad.
10:44You haven't been great in the top three rounds in the past.
10:47Not in the top, yeah, not in the top three rounds.
10:49But actually really bad in the top three rounds.
10:52Okay, I know where you're coming from there,
10:54but like, again, maybe this is going back too far,
10:58but it's just, it's funny that, you know,
11:00Fred Warner, Debo Samuel, Nick Bosa,
11:02these guys all came in the first three rounds, right?
11:05And, you know, if you like Pearsall,
11:07I know that's still early.
11:09He came in, and so did Pooney.
11:12Like I mean-
11:13Solomon Thomas, Ruben Foster.
11:13Of course, but that's my point is-
11:15Dante Pettis, Tarverius Moore.
11:17Everybody remembers the misses more than the hits.
11:21All I've ever asked for is to be fair, is just be fair.
11:25Right, and I'm trying to counterpoint your point here.
11:28We're trying to keep it even, keep it balanced.
11:30No, but it sounds to me, again,
11:32but if your point is, boy,
11:34they miss a lot in the first three rounds.
11:36Well, that's not fair.
11:37They hit a lot in the first three rounds too.
11:40Of course they miss a lot.
11:41Everybody does.
11:42Right.
11:43Everybody does.
11:44They're about 50-50 in the first three rounds.
11:44I think they're pretty commensurate
11:46with the rest of the league.
11:47We'd have to look at a full study of the first three.
11:51And to your point, 2020,
11:54Javon Kinlaw and Brandon Ayuk
11:56were their first round picks.
11:57I mean, I know that in this moment we're mad at Brandon,
12:00but that's a hit.
12:01It's absolutely a hit.
12:02To me, it's a hit if you draft a player
12:05and you give him a second contract.
12:06Yeah, absolutely.
12:07That counts as a hit.
12:08And Aaron Banks is a guy who I thought was a hit in 2021,
12:13second round pick.
12:14He could get a big old contract.
12:15It's just probably not from the Niners.
12:17Right.
12:18I don't think he was a miss.
12:20He's a little bit of a tweener.
12:21That's a tough one, Aaron Banks.
12:23And Drake Jackson, Trey Sermon,
12:27Ty Davis Price, Danny Gray, Cameron Latu,
12:32third round pick, Ricky Pearsall.
12:35Yeah, no, there's always plenty.
12:37There's always plenty.
12:38I do think you can do that with every team.
12:40You could.
12:41I do.
12:41I do think that, I mean,
12:42that's why maybe they should trade back
12:44out of the first round
12:45because they seem to be better on day two and day three.
12:47Well, I don't know if you-
12:49For whatever reason.
12:50I don't know if you act based on that sort of history.
12:53I do know a lot of people who think
12:54that trading back this year makes sense
12:57because it's a deeper draft more so
13:00than it's a dynamic draft.
13:01Yeah, fair.
13:02In other words, there's a lot of people,
13:03and I'm no draft Nick, as you know,
13:04but there are a lot of people who think
13:06that once you get out of the top five to seven picks,
13:09that there's not a lot of difference
13:11between who will go ninth and who will go 29th.
13:15Like, you're looking at, there's a lot of good.
13:17So if you're the 11th pick in the draft,
13:20a lot of people think, well,
13:22if you can move out of 11
13:23in order to get two picks in the top 40
13:26or something to move down, then it makes sense.
13:29We'll see.
13:30The Flash and Cupertino is next up.
13:32Hi, Flash, what you doing?
13:35Not too bad.
13:36So quickly about Joey Bosa,
13:38why can't they do an incentive heavy contract?
13:42It's easier for defense because,
13:44you know what I mean, you don't have to be targeted.
13:46Sometimes you can control the targets
13:48and then they don't make their numbers.
13:50But then on defense, you know,
13:52you put a carrot in front of a guy, he'll go after it.
13:57It's not a bad idea, Flash.
13:58I mean, when you say, why can't they,
14:00like, it's honestly a question for Joey Bosa.
14:02Can they?
14:03Because if they can, then it's a very, very good idea.
14:06Sure, make it an incentive-laden deal.
14:10He doesn't get paid, you know what I mean?
14:11But then, you know, he gets injured, he doesn't get paid.
14:13But then if you get a heavy incentive,
14:16and a heavy incentive deal,
14:18again, I mean, that'll fire him up, you know?
14:21There's no accounting for how happy Nick would be,
14:24and then he'll get fired up even more
14:26playing alongside his brother, I think.
14:29Well, Flash, I will say this, though,
14:32and thank you, Flash, appreciate the call.
14:35I think it's completely fair for fans,
14:38when you're talking about players like this,
14:40and both of them have signed north of $100 million deals,
14:45I don't want to hear that you need money to fire you up.
14:49You should be fired up
14:50because your helmet went on your head, period.
14:53Like, that's why I think in the NBA,
14:55people get very, very angry when they're like,
14:57ooh, you want us to try in the All-Star Game?
14:59How about $5 million bonuses for winning the All-Star Game?
15:03How about Bleep You?
15:05You make $55 million a year.
15:08I don't need to give you more money
15:11so that you can get excited for a day.
15:13If you can't get excited for a day, then don't do this,
15:17and then we won't do this together anymore.
15:19Like, if that's, and again, money is a motivator.
15:22I'm not saying that these guys
15:24should go play for free at all.
15:26Joey Bosa is going to command a certain salary,
15:29and deserves that.
15:30He's a very, very good player,
15:32but I just think it bothers fans.
15:35I don't want to hear that, you know,
15:38Joey, you get an incentive, and then it'll fire Nick up.
15:40Like, you all should be fired up
15:42because you have a uniform, and that's the job.
15:45Right, and if you're Joey Bosa,
15:46you probably should be motivated
15:48by the ability to go out there and win.
15:51And yeah, the Chargers were a team
15:53that was trending toward winning,
15:54but they didn't want to pay him as much as he was making.
15:57And if you look at his numbers in the year that he had,
16:00he's a declining player, and he's almost 30.
16:04So if you just look at his productivity-
16:07Declining player?
16:08Oh yeah, he's declining.
16:10Based on-
16:10Based on, like, his productivity,
16:13his availability, and all the other ilities.
16:17The availability's been kind of a problem the whole time.
16:19Just the last three years.
16:21Before that, he was-
16:21More so.
16:22Yeah, before that, he was pretty available
16:25and pretty productive.
16:25I think if your last name's Bosa, you've been hurt a lot.
16:29Right, it's because-
16:30College and pro.
16:31Right, Nick has been hurt a few times,
16:34especially in the pros.
16:35He had the ACL that cost him a full year,
16:36but I don't know if I'm the Niners,
16:39and I look at a 30-year-old Joey Bosa
16:41who's only played in half the games the last three years,
16:44I don't want to pay him as much money
16:46because he probably wants to earn.
16:47Yeah, no, and again, I think that's fair.
16:49Like, the 49ers, to the best of their ability,
16:53they go into this off-season saying,
16:55we are looking for people who are going
16:58to basically earn their salary.
17:00Like, their production is going to have to match,
17:03and maybe that doesn't sound that profound
17:05because I'm sure they're trying to do that every year.
17:09But I do think sometimes you're in a mode,
17:12and they definitely were last off-season,
17:14the last two off-seasons,
17:15because they felt like they're so damn close
17:17to winning it all that tiebreakers
17:20kind of went to the player,
17:21where they're like, ugh,
17:23this one makes me a little bit uncomfortable,
17:25but gosh, we're right on the doorstep,
17:28so let's extend a little bit
17:30because we think we really can win it all this year.
17:32I think that's what happened with Bosa,
17:34and it definitely happened with IU.
17:36They're not in that mode this year.
17:38Well, and it happened with Trent,
17:39and it happened with McCaffrey,
17:41and it happened with-
17:42Sure, lesser degree, but yes.
17:42Right, but those players in the off-season
17:46went to management and said,
17:46I'm gonna need more money,
17:48and they gave him more money, just readily,
17:50and it didn't even seem like the McCaffrey thing
17:53was the story until the news broke
17:55that he got more money,
17:56and same thing with Trent,
17:57and you're looking now at Juszczyk,
18:00who had his contract reworked last year,
18:02and he may actually be a cap casualty.
18:05I think he probably will, actually.
18:07Which is interesting because I don't know
18:09how Shanahan runs his offense without a fullback.
18:12That would be a dramatic change for him
18:15in what he likes to do,
18:16and I know you start to glaze over
18:18when I talk about personnel groups,
18:20but they do run a lot of 21 with two running backs,
18:23and Juszczyk is the one who is part of the two in the 21,
18:28so if you don't have a fullback,
18:30then you're gonna have to change
18:31a lot of what you do offensively.
18:32I am of the opinion that those coaches
18:35change what they do offensively
18:37a lot more than we think they do.
18:39Kyle Shanahan did not start coaching
18:40and running an offense when he came to the Niners.
18:43He has not had some superstar fullback
18:45everywhere he's ever been.
18:47He's been to multiple teams, Cleveland, Houston, Atlanta.
18:50We could go through the whole league
18:51where he's run offenses,
18:53then that's not always been the case.
18:56So again, I think they look at each player this offseason,
18:59they're like, dude, is this worth it?
19:02And Jusz has probably arrived
19:04at a point where he's not, unfortunately.
19:07Love the guy, love all the outfits
19:09that his wife is producing, it's wonderful,
19:12but how many times did he make a big catch this year?
19:15Like, they're not using him as much.
19:16They're not using him as much.
19:18For him, it's about blocking.
19:19I know, but they're not.
19:20How many times did you get in the red zone,
19:22in the deep red zone, and you couldn't run the ball?
19:25There you go.
19:26And his job is inherently to block
19:30and get the short yardage play,
19:32and in the red zone, in the lower red zone,
19:34they couldn't get yards.
19:36Real quick, Telmo in the city.
19:37Hi, Telmo, what's up?
19:40What's up, fellas?
19:41How you guys doing today?
19:43Good, man.
19:43So, a real quick thought on Jusz Cech,
19:47and we love him,
19:48but I think there could be a cap casualty
19:52with McCaffrey on the field.
19:53I think there'd be a potential for something
19:56that a lot of Niners fans want to see,
19:58and that's more Jordan Mason
20:00in kind of a hybrid running back, full back role,
20:05but specifically about Joey Bosa.
20:08I've heard that he's only played
20:11at about 55% of the games in the last three years.
20:16If they were just,
20:17somebody was just talking about how they work out together,
20:19and they're buddy buddies,
20:20and they're like stepbrothers,
20:22but actual brothers, and who gets the top bunk.
20:25I don't think they're on the same team,
20:28because if somebody gets disgruntled,
20:30if one of them's not happy,
20:32how's that gonna affect the other one?
20:34If Nick gets disgruntled,
20:36or he's not performing and the team gets on him,
20:39or vice versa,
20:40I don't need two brothers being upset
20:43and having that much money invested into them.
20:46First of all, me personally,
20:48I'm ready to move off of Nick Bosa.
20:50If, I thought if the Niners could trade him
20:53for Myles Garrett straight up,
20:55that's a win-win for both of them.
20:56He's given the Niners like 19 or 19 and a half sacks
21:01over the last two seasons,
21:03being the third highest non-quarterback paid player
21:05in the NFL at like 35 million.
21:08He's just not giving the Niners their money's worth.
21:11Yeah, Telmo, I get it.
21:13We'll respond to that coming up next.
21:14We gotta run,
21:15or else we would've heard more from you.
21:17I'm of the opinion,
21:19I made the comparison earlier of Nick Bosa
21:21and Steph Curry first half of this season.
21:23I think Nick's fine.
21:24I really do.
21:25I know y'all want sacks,
21:27but I think that Nick will put up the numbers
21:31that 49er fans want
21:33if the concoction of the defensive line
21:36were a little bit different.
21:37They're bad defense last year.
21:38Right?
21:39They didn't, he had no help.
21:40Fred Warner, Fred Warner's words.
21:42They were bad defense last year.