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Following the Bruins' overtime win at home against the Calgary Flames, Evan Marinofsky is joined by Andrew Raycroft to discuss if the Bruins have turned the corner, and issues the team still faces. How do the B's improve their special teams? Will they develop the chemistry needed to win? Or are the Bruins just a mediocre team? All that, and much more!



Topics:

- Bruins get an OT win over Calgary

- Special teams is lacking

- Does Jim Montgomery change the lines too much?

- Are the Bruins average?

- Razor by the glass!



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00:21I'm Ethan Baranofsky, that's Andrew Raycroft, Razer, what is up?
00:26Not much, not much.
00:29Nice to be on and after a win, that is, it just seems to be easier, especially, and three
00:36or four, too, that's kind of sneaky, I think, for everybody.
00:39I think, I don't think people realize they've won three or four, even when I was, you know,
00:43just kind of like, you know, thinking about it, I'm like, oh, they've won three or four,
00:47like you gotta give it to them.
00:48I think it's sort of because that loss to Toronto on Tuesday was so demoralizing.
00:52It's funny, last time you were on, we were discussing the Swayman situation, which was
00:56equally as demoralizing, so at least, at least that is, that is out of the way.
01:03Bruins win, Thursday night, four to three, they get the OT win, a little close at the
01:08end, obviously, they blow the 3-1 lead, Marcian comes in and scores, feels like he's only
01:12scoring overtime goals at this point, Bruins will obviously take that.
01:17You know, we talk about three of four, what have you noticed, because you went on that
01:22trip to Philly, were you in Philly?
01:24Yeah, I was in Carolina too, luckily.
01:26That's right, we won't talk about that game, I don't think we need to discuss that game,
01:31but the last three or four, what have you noticed the Bruins be better at that they
01:36weren't previously?
01:38They're tightening up defensively, especially five on five, I think it's strictly a special
01:44team story at this point, that's what I think this team is, any negativity, any concerns
01:50is strictly special teams now, I think their five on five game's really good, I think even
01:58the Toronto game, that first half of the game was solid, going into Toronto, they didn't
02:04give anything up, they had a few opportunities themselves, they created a few penalties themselves,
02:09so for me, I like their game, they just need more special teams work and they need to take
02:18a few less penalties, but that's my takeaway since the Carolina game, is just how much
02:24they just, okay, we have to lock this down, we cannot allow passes through the seam, five
02:30on five, royal road goals, and they've done that in the last four, and got back to a little
02:38bit of their identity.
02:40Yeah, to me, I thought that Carolina game was rock bottom, and I thought there were
02:46games prior to that that were rock bottom, I thought the Dallas game, or Philly when they
02:49lost 2-0, I thought those were rock bottom, turns out losing 8-2 Carolina is quite literally
02:57rock bottom, and I think what kind of mystified me through the first month, we're a month into
03:05the season, through a lot of that first month, was just on paper, that defense is good, and
03:10even Montgomery talked about this on Thursday, about Zdorov, where it's like, here's a guy
03:15that you expect a little bit more from, and maybe a little more coachable, and it just
03:19wasn't there, and I could never understand that, where it's like, okay, Mason Leroy gets
03:24beat to the front of the net, it's a young guy, that's gonna happen, and Charlie McAvoy
03:30seemed like he was trying to do too much, and you're right, I think they have locked
03:34it down a bit five on five defensively, and again, the Toronto game, those three goals,
03:39the fourth obviously was an empty netter, but those three were power play goals, so
03:42it's like, just stop taking those penalties, you saw that, you saw a little bit of that rear
03:47its head on Thursday night, Marchand punches the guy, I can't say his last name.
03:54Prospisil?
03:55Prospisil, Prospisil, punches Prospisil.
03:57That was a brutal penalty, just for the record, I mean,
04:03I get it, and they're in no position to be like, hoping they get a call,
04:07because they've taken so many penalties, but that was weak little.
04:11It's wild that that was the one, it was wild that out of that whole thing,
04:15that was the one penalty called.
04:17Yeah, it was, a little bit of Marchand's defense, but otherwise, he can't defend them,
04:21and he didn't defend himself, and it was stupid, and you just, again, the Bruins are walking a
04:26razor thin margin right now, so it's not like they're 10-0, and they can just kind of
04:32do a stick play, like that's where all this is accumulating a little bit, where accumulating
04:38is that little face wash, the stick in the skates, oh, I gotta wait, well, it's happened
04:44five times in a row, so you don't get the benefit of that doubt anymore, you don't get to not be
04:49criticized for that play, or you don't get to get defended because the refs were bad, it's just,
04:54you've done it too much now, so they've got to get back to the point where they can bank some
04:59goodwill.
05:00Yeah, and those offensive zone penalties are just killer, I can't, like, that drives everybody
05:07nuts. David Popstock was interesting on Thursday, because there were some shifts body language-wise
05:14and stuff, I didn't, you know, fully notice them, but then he gets those two points, really nice
05:19pass across on that first goal, helps out on the second, he has sort of responded fairly well,
05:28I didn't love his game on Tuesday against Toronto after Montgomery sort of called him out,
05:35he does get on the score sheet Thursday, what have you noticed from him so far this year,
05:39like, what's, what have been some of your big takeaways about Popstock?
05:44Well, I think, I think he really likes playing with Pavel Zaka, that's, that's a big takeaway
05:48for me, I think he feels most comfortable, I think he, he just, he gets more excited to play
05:55when he has Zach in the middle of him, so we saw that Thursday night, I think he's
06:01frustrated with the power play, because he knows, really, that's his, that's where he's getting 60
06:06goals from, that's, if he's not, if that thing's not clicking, if he's, and, and, and in fairness
06:12to the other guys that are on that power play with it, like, Toronto literally put a shadow on him,
06:18on the PP, like, I'm sitting right down the glass, and I'm watching, and the Bruins did a pretty good
06:23job, and Montgomery said this yesterday, like, when they get it in the zone, they have pretty
06:27when they get it in the zone, they have pretty good movement, but the issue is, is they're trying
06:31to force it to David, and they literally have a shadow on him, and someone else has to start
06:36scoring to open up David, and then they really get cooking, but that's, that's really what,
06:41what is necessary for them to get going, and I think David's frustrated with that, I think
06:45he's a little annoyed that they're, they're covering him that way, I think he's a little
06:50annoyed that he's not getting it, and, and so I think there's a little bit of frustration
06:56boiling over that, but beyond that, he, David's playing his game, and getting his point, like,
07:02it's hard to get points, like, I think we're seeing it with, like, Coyle, and Frederick,
07:06and Zach, like, it's hard to score, and hard to get points in the NHL, and David continually does
07:11that, so, yes, he's going to have a bit of a funky way of doing it, he's going to look, he's going to
07:16give it away, it's going to look like he doesn't care sometimes, but at the end of the day, that's
07:21his personality, that's what he is, that's what makes him great, and you have to kind of, Manny
07:26Ramirez, embrace it, I, I just, like, I don't know, it's just not going to be different than that,
07:31it never will, folks, and, and, and the guys know it, you know, I talked to the guys that, that
07:38played with him at different times, and they laugh about, like, yeah, that's David, that,
07:42that's what David does, and, and, and it is Manny being Manny, it's David being David,
07:47I really think that that's kind of where we need to settle in with him on this contract in the next
07:5113 years, he's going to get 100 points, he's going to be great, he's going to do some cool stuff,
07:56he's also going to frustrate somebody at times, but at the end of it, like, you look at his
08:00playoff number, like, there's nothing you can, like, critique him on in his career,
08:04he shows up in the playoffs, he shows up in the tough times, he scores overtime goals,
08:08all of those things, so, I think what we've seen is a little bit more frustration, again,
08:14because of the power play, but, but really, just David being David.
08:19Yeah, the, it's funny, I remember last year in the playoffs, people being like,
08:22oh, Pasternak, he's a playoff choker, and it's like, no, he isn't, like,
08:25it's crazy, his numbers are crazy in the playoffs.
08:27Have you looked at his numbers in the playoffs, would you please do that for me, and I've never
08:32understood that, and I think you're right, I think there is a little bit of Manny being Manny with
08:36him, where there are going to be some, you know, times where he doesn't exactly hustle to the
08:40bench to make a change as the far side wing, and you kind of have to take it, and when he puts up
08:46two points like he did last night, you really have to take it. I think it's interesting with the
08:51power play, because, like, I thought when they signed Lindholm, and this could still happen,
08:54I mean, again, it's, we're a month into the season, we'll get into sort of, you know,
08:58what the kind of outlook on this team is, but I thought Lindholm, Elias Lindholm, would be
09:03more of a threat from the bumper, and would kind of, as Bergeron sort of drew attention
09:08in the bumper, which kind of helped open up Pasternak, and you had two legitimate threats,
09:12I don't feel they have two legitimate threats now with that power play, just feels like it's
09:16Pasternak. How does that power play change? Is it McAvoy at the top? Is it, you know, putting
09:25Lowry up there? Like, what have you seen out of that power play so far that's made it unsuccessful?
09:30Well, I think, like, look at the goal Calgary scores last night, they just throw a wrist
09:36threat net, Sharon Govich puts a stick on it, goes up and over Korpisalo. I think a couple of
09:42those could really, like, the Leafs sucked. The Leafs power play was the worst in the league,
09:46they get three on three, and then they get, they start feeling good. I think the Bruins need a
09:50little bit of that, they do need a little puck luck, like, they've been around the net, they've
09:54had a little opportunity, they need something good to happen, I think that'll start it. That's
10:00first. Like, the power plays are very cyclical, and unfortunately the Bruins power plays started
10:06out a little on the wrong side of the cycle to start the season, so there's a major focus. There
10:11is a little bit of that. But, but, I think you need to solidify a threat up top. I know, I know
10:23David likes the pass from the right hander up there, but I think Lindholm can move the puck.
10:29I like Lindholm more than Lowry, I still, Lowry, Lowry's very good offensively, and like, the skill
10:37level, I'm not sure if he's completely figured out how a power play works at times. I think he
10:42still wants to do a little bit too much on his own. I think the Bruins need to move the puck quicker,
10:47and, and sometimes it can end up on Six's stick just a little bit too long, and on a bad way,
10:52but just in this scenario, I think 27 just kind of zips it a little bit more at times,
10:58even though it's, it's, it's that lefty doesn't quite work as well going over to the flank. But,
11:04and, but the rest of it's on those guys in that little corner, figuring out that bumper play,
11:09figuring out Lindholm. I think Marci again, like two posts last night off wristers, one was on
11:14the power play. If that goes in, like, I think we're getting closer with Brad, and, and developing
11:21that low, that low play, because they've scored two great power play goals. The one to Coyle,
11:26that Coyle made the great play the other day, and the one, um, I, I wasn't, I, Toronto,
11:34I think it was Toronto. Yep. I wasn't there. I know I watched it on TV. It was one game. I,
11:39I, I didn't watch it. I think it was Toronto where Brad gets it over to David. It was Toronto
11:43stole ours in that, uh, that play, that play has got to get, if they get that, if they can open
11:48that up a little bit more. Um, so it's a long, long, really, I, I, that was a really long winded
11:55answer, I think. And I didn't really say much other than they got to move the pot quicker and
11:59they have to get confident. And, um, I said, yeah, nothing meaningful, um, or, or nothing.
12:08There's no magic pill. There's no magic bullet. There really isn't. It's just a matter of
12:12confidence and zipping the pocket a split second earlier. And, and honestly having a little puck
12:16luck too. Yeah. The mobility, they're a little too stationary at times that I think is one of
12:22their downfalls. Um, I want to get into some of the lines that Montgomery and a comment Marchand
12:27made last night. I also want to get into the big question of, or the Bruins mediocre, or it's just,
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14:14So, uh, Marcian made an interesting comment last night, uh, about, uh, the lines. Um, he said that
14:22quote, when you're thinking, it just slows you down. You have to be able to play fast. It's
14:25something that we just haven't done a good job of, but it's getting better five on five. I agree.
14:29It is getting better five on five. Uh, but he also added, he feels like he has good chemistry
14:33with Hampus Lindholm, but adds with the way that Montgomery coaches, he changes the lines
14:37a lot and it could change tomorrow. Um, I think Marcian's right. I actually do like him with
14:43Elias Lindholm, uh, which again is not what we anticipated. We thought it would be Marcian with
14:47coil. Um, maybe Marcian Lindholm is sort of a good shutdown line. You had Parsonak to it,
14:53and that is a good five on five offensive line. Um, but I don't know, do you Montgomery has had
15:01a quick trigger finger this year with the lines? Um, has it been a little too quick? Uh, could he,
15:07it could be, could he be a little bit more stable with kind of trying to find out lines or is it,
15:12there's a lot of new guys and it's hard to kind of figure out the trios.
15:15Well, I think, I think also it's, it's, that's, it's more on the players. Um, I, I coaches would
15:22rather not think about that kind of thing, or especially the way they, they, they like having
15:26pairs. That's ideal for coaches. They have pairs and then they kind of sift the extra winger around
15:33throughout the lineup. That's ideal for them. Um, I think the players haven't individually,
15:39haven't performed at times, and he's tried to get guys going or tried to help guys. And
15:45that's been a real focus, which, um, is an ideal. So I think, uh, again, it's
15:52settled in Thursday night. I there's Zach, uh, pasta that just seems so obvious to me.
16:00Um, it just seemed that they just, it just happier for them. Um, which, which then puts,
16:06and I also think slotting coil on the third line just worked better at center. I think you bring
16:12Lindholm in to, to put coil as the third line center, um, and, and keep Zach there. That just
16:19makes sense to me. I think Zach is a, I think Zach is a good centerman. Like I he's good on the
16:23wing, but I think he's a, he really gets this system defensively and he really allows David to
16:29go. So I like the way they were slotted Thursday night. I liked the pairing of Zach, uh, pasta.
16:36And then I liked the pairing of Lindholm and Marshawn. I think that goal in overtime looks
16:42so much like 37 and 63 in overtime. Like that is dead. That is the ultimate 37 type play to get it
16:51to Marshawn and let them do his thing. Um, so at light 37 light, I'm not going all the way there
16:58because that's sacrilegious in my house. And then you can't do that. No, you can't do that at all.
17:04And then we got coil, uh, on the third line and that just frees him up with match-ups and gets
17:09his skating going and making plays with Kepke. I, it could be a, it could be a coil Kepke that
17:14goal last night. That's, that's a thing of beauty. And that is the ultimate Charlie coil play. And,
17:20and, and Kepke is really, really, really digging himself in and making it hard not to be on the
17:26fourth line. So those are the three pairs that I go with right now. And then, and then you've
17:33got Castle Lake in the middle on the fourth line, like that, that works for me. Um, there's still,
17:38you still need a lot from a few of those wingers, but, but those are the four pairs that the four
17:43centers I would have in the three pairs on the first three lines that I'm going with and probably
17:47going to settle in here for the next two weeks and just let it ride. Yup. Let it cook. I think
17:53it's interesting, um, that coil, uh, you know, again, after the season he had last year, we have
17:58like 59, 60 points now back to sort of that third line spot, at least for right now. And I agree
18:03with you. I think he is better down there. I just, I feel like he has more to give potentially
18:09in the, in the top six or at least he had more to give. Um, and I agree with you on Zaka and
18:14post rock. I mean, that connection has been there legitimately since Zaka got here in 2022.
18:20And, uh, you know, I do think Montgomery said to change the lines a lot, but I also think it's
18:23because their five on five offense has been terrible. And it was bad for a while. So it's
18:27like, you're trying to jumpstart something and it feels like you're onto something with this.
18:32I also find it interesting. Tyler Johnson was with Zaka and Poshnok last night. You know,
18:36I think I look at him as sort of, you know, you made a Manny Ramirez analogy earlier. I'll make
18:40a Brock Holt analogy. I think he's very Brock Holt utility guy. I think he can go anywhere in
18:44that top, uh, in that top nine. Um, and again, I think if they continue to play the way they have
18:50the last four games, when three or four, when two of three, uh, and sort of, you know, again,
18:54they're, I think tied for fourth or tied for third in the Atlantic right now. Um, you sort of put,
19:00you put yourself in a position to go out and get yourself a real top six winger, uh, come the
19:06deadline, which again is a topic that we can, we can absolutely save for another day. Um, yes,
19:12we do not need to do that right now. I don't know why I don't know who it's available anyways.
19:18You know, like we, uh, you know, Kevin Weeks brought up that Trent Frederick thing.
19:22And so the Trent Frederick rumors start coming out and it's like, all right, who is he going for
19:27Diver? I will say Mark Diver, uh, Frederick for Frank Petrano. I love that idea. I, I could get
19:34down with that idea, but we can save that for another day. I want to get into big picture
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20:52What time is it? It's game time now back to the show. So I want to get into sort of, you know,
20:58the big question. I think a lot of people are wondering about the Bruins and I get asked this
21:02by friends. I see it on Twitter. Um, are the Bruins a mediocre middle of the road team,
21:08or are they a team that just sort of is starting slow? People aren't used to the Bruins starting
21:14slow. Um, and, and, uh, and you know, they're going to kind of find their footing, which they
21:19seem to be doing at least the last four games. Uh, where do you fall?
21:24I think they're good. I think they're good. I think for all of the, like, I, they're going to
21:32be hard in the playoffs to play. You can see that, like, you can see that it's a little bit different.
21:38You can see that come difficult games. And again, this is like, I guess, again, take the special
21:46teams piece out of this because that's really why they're 500. That's the only reason they're 500.
21:52They would have won two more games, which means they'd be four games over 500 had their special
21:57teams started out of the gates the way they have, but their, their, their power plays almost last
22:03their, their penalty kill is in the twenties, which is unheard of for this group. And usually
22:08they're top five in both. That's the difference. It's a little bit. So you could probably make an
22:13argument. I I'm not going to go through. You can make the argument that they've lost three games
22:18because of their special teams or three and a half games, which puts them six, seven games over 500
22:23right now. And, and 10 and three, you know, 10 and five, whatever they are, uh, that could have been
22:30the case. And so, so I go back to this team being a good team. I, I, I don't, I understand that it's
22:38not 10 and O and it feels bad because it's 500, but the league's 500, the, the, the division's
22:43500. They, they only, they can rattle off five in a row and there'll be second place and handily
22:48in the playoffs all year. And that we know this team will rattle off five in a row at some point.
22:53And they've proven too, that they're, they're still have that. They still have that. We're
22:59not losing five in a row kind of thing that, that, that does, that hasn't gone away either.
23:04So I think they're a really good team. I think at the end of the season, we're going to look back
23:09and say, well, yeah, we really over-exaggerate at the start. This team is still built for playoffs.
23:14This team is really hard. This D is really good. Um, and they will figure out the special teams.
23:22They're, they're too good not to, I agree. And you're right about a lot of the division being
23:28500. I mean, the Panthers are 10, three and one, but you have Toronto seven, five and two
23:32Tampa seven, six, and one Bruins seven, seven, and one Detroit six, five, and one Buffalo six,
23:37seven, and one Ottawa six, seven, and oh, the Canadians are different story.
23:41I think it's, you know, I look at this roster and I looked at the roster prior to the year
23:46and I said, they got better. I mean, yes, they lost the goalie tandem and sure they lost Jake
23:50DeBrusque, but you added a number one center. You added a, what should be a top four defenseman,
23:56a big, tough guy that should help you in the playoffs. I, you know, even though they did
24:02wave Max Jones guys like Castilek and Kepke have worked, um, Lynn Tolman's taken a little bit.
24:08Um, I, the team is good. I picked them to be first in the Atlantic prior to the year. Cause I,
24:14I do think they're that good. They can be that good. And they, as you said, like coil can be
24:18the third line center or Zaka could be on the wing and there's options there and good things take
24:23time. And, uh, Connor Ryan and I were talking about this earlier this week after the Toronto
24:27game, when the mood was a little bit more dour, um, where we were saying, you know, look,
24:34this roster is good. Like it's not all going to come together immediately. Not every team starts
24:39out hot. Um, and yes, there's some concerning things. The five on five offense for a long time
24:43was not good. Um, you know, but now it is kind of just down to special teams. Um, and I, again,
24:50I, I, I'm not throwing in the white flag on this team. Now there's no, there's no reason to, uh,
24:57and again, I, uh, you know, I said this earlier this week, if they are 500 in three months,
25:04then that's a different story, but I don't think they will be. I think this roster
25:07is just too good. Um, and, and again, you need more from certain guys. You need more from Elias
25:12Lindholm points wise. You need more from Charlie Coyle. You need more from Zaka and, and Frederick
25:17and a lot of these guys. Um, but I still, I still think that this is a good team. Uh,
25:23and I agree with you. I think they should be hard to play the playoffs. And if they're not,
25:27then that's a big problem because on paper they should be. Um, by the way, how have you liked
25:32being, uh, be an ice side, being the ringside guy? How have you liked that?
25:36Ringside's good. Ringside's good. Um, it's somewhat nice to be on the road. Um, somewhat.
25:44I remember why I stopped playing cause it is, uh, you miss stuff. Um, but it's fun to be around
25:50everybody. It's fun to kind of be in the mix again. Uh, it's an easy way to travel certainly,
25:55but, uh, it's good. I, I, I enjoy it. I enjoy being in the game and focusing on the game and,
26:01and, um, picking up little pieces, of course, mostly goalie stuff. But, um, I feel like I have
26:08a better handle on the team when I'm, when I'm down there. Oh yeah. I mean, those are,
26:12that's a perfect view of it. I imagine that when you're at the desk,
26:15Billy Jaffe's just talking to you the entire period. Yeah. That's right. When we're up there,
26:20you know, like it's, it's like a revolving door up there, uh, in the studio, especially in the
26:25garden at home. We get, we get a good dig in, but, um, so yeah, no, it's been, uh, it's been good,
26:31but it's, it's, yeah, it's fun. Yeah. You've been doing a great job. So it's been awesome to, uh,
26:35see you ice side. Um, Razor, this has been fun. We'll have to have you back. Um, I, you know,
26:41I usually ask you what they should be looking forward to from the guests, but you obviously
26:45are on Nessun, um, doing a multitude of different things. Uh, you also have morning brew, correct?
26:51Correct. Morning brew with Jaffe and Razor. So, um, that's keeping us busy as well. Keeping me
26:56up at night. So check that out as well. You never have too many podcasts on the mix.
27:02Exactly. I mean, there's lots of traffic out there again. Like, you know, we're back.
27:05That's what's fun. And I also look at like, you know, uh, people are like,
27:08oh, you have competing podcasts. And it's like, you can listen to a podcast whenever you want.
27:12We don't, it's not like you and I are, you know, only at 7.00 AM, only at 7.00 PM, listen to it
27:18when you want. So yes, go listen, um, to morning Bruce. Yeah. That's been Bruins beat. I'm Evan
27:22Baranofsky. It's Andrew Raycroft. You Brewsby listeners have a great rest of your week.

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