Pucks with Haggs host Joe Haggerty answers all of your Bruins questions coming off a tough OT loss to the Ottawa Senators. With the team struggling at a 7-7-2 record, Hagerty examines the implications of goaltender Linus Ullmark's return amidst ongoing issues like ineffective power plays and third-period failures.
The podcast raises critical questions about head coach Jim Montgomery's accountability and the potential need for a coaching change if the Bruins can't turn their season around. Fans are invited to share their thoughts on social media as the pressure mounts on management to address these pressing concerns. Tune in for an insightful discussion on the Bruins' path forward and what it means for their playoff aspirations!
0:00 - Intro
4:00 - Bruins' frustrating loss
5:50 - Third period struggles
8:01 - Players not listening
9:57 - Repeated mistakes
11:30 - Player performance discussion
13:22 - Roster comparison debate
17:14 - Shot on net issues
19:00 - Line juggling effects
20:56 - Management wake-up call
22:46 - Coaching change discussion
25:40 - Montgomery feeling pressure
28:42 - Ticket purchasing tips
30:27 - Penalty kill issues
32:25 - Need for coaching change
34:22 - Coaching change needed
36:05 - Team shakeup suggestions
39:01 - Bruins playoff spot
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0:00 - Intro
4:00 - Bruins' frustrating loss
5:50 - Third period struggles
8:01 - Players not listening
9:57 - Repeated mistakes
11:30 - Player performance discussion
13:22 - Roster comparison debate
17:14 - Shot on net issues
19:00 - Line juggling effects
20:56 - Management wake-up call
22:46 - Coaching change discussion
25:40 - Montgomery feeling pressure
28:42 - Ticket purchasing tips
30:27 - Penalty kill issues
32:25 - Need for coaching change
34:22 - Coaching change needed
36:05 - Team shakeup suggestions
39:01 - Bruins playoff spot
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00:00Pucks with Hags is brought to you by Price Picks and the Game Time app.
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00:55We're going to have a mailbag episode of the Pucks with Hags podcast today. A lot of questions,
01:00a lot of angry fans, a lot of variations on the same theme. I think a lot of Bruins fans kind of
01:05want to see the same thing right now, especially after a frustrating Saturday night 3-2 overtime
01:11loss to the Ottawa Senators, so we'll be talking a lot about the coaching, Jim Montgomery, a lot
01:16of questions about that and just moves this Bruins team needs to make in general, but let's first
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02:20Bruins kind of back and forth at 500, 7-7-2, I think it is right now. They have 16 points.
02:27They're in a playoff spot in the Atlantic Division, but another frustrating loss,
02:323-2 overtime to the Ottawa Senators on Saturday night. Linus L. Marks returned to TD Garden, which
02:38was successful for him. He got the win, he played really well.
02:44He got his goalie hug with Jeremy Swayman before the game started. He had a really nice
02:49video tribute and ovation where he got the love from Bruins fans. He got to put his
02:53stick up in the air and give them thanks and really have a warm feeling all around. So it
02:58was a great moment for Linus L. Marks and for Bruins fans. They didn't really get to say goodbye
03:04after he was traded in the summertime and got to give him that last ovation that he really,
03:09I'm sure, wanted in his return to the Garden with the Ottawa Senators.
03:13So that was a big part of the theme of the game, was Linus L. Marks returning to Boston.
03:20I was asked about this actually when I did a sports radio station up in Ottawa, had me on
03:26earlier this week, and kind of asked me how big the hype was on Linus coming back to Boston.
03:33I said, you know, he's going to get his ovation, he'll get a video tribute, it'll be warm,
03:36it'll be appreciative, they really like Linus L. Marks, there'll be goalie hugs with Swayman,
03:40all that stuff. I said, but at the same time, I think it's way overshadowed and hasn't really
03:44been talked about because Bruins fans are obsessed right now with the Bruins not playing well and not
03:50playing consistently. It's like one step forward, one step back, where it seems like they're kind
03:55of figuring things out and then they shoot themselves in the foot with the same mistakes
03:59and end up losing. And in this game against Ottawa, it was 3-2 overtime loss, Brady Kachuk,
04:06awesome game, he had like 20 shot attempts, like 12 shots on net, ends up with the game-winning
04:11goal, was just dominant, best player on the ice by far, and showed everything he could do.
04:17And if there's any fans out there that wouldn't be ready to trade like half their roster for Brady
04:24Kachuk, even the Bruins, if the Bruins could get him, I don't care what the price would be,
04:28I would pay it because he is the prototypical power forward in today's NHL, dominant offensively,
04:34physical, big, strong, can set up his teammates smart, like good teammate, all that stuff,
04:40good leader. He showed all that stuff in the game. And then he finally breaks out 19 seconds
04:45into overtime, it's a three-on-one odd man rush, and he just snaps one past Jeremy Swayman and
04:50wins it for the Ottawa Senators. But I would say the big things to look at, the big problem
04:57areas in this game, once again, penalties, the Bruins took a bunch of penalties. Once again,
05:02they gave up a power play goal, the penalty kill continues to be a problem, the power play
05:06is letting them down, it did again in this game. And there are just disappearing acts for this
05:15Boston Bruins team, especially offensively. And we saw that in the third period, zero shots on net
05:22in the third period of a two-to-two hockey game, not a single shot on net, they couldn't manage to
05:28get a single shot on net in a game that was tied, where they could have won it in regulation,
05:33and instead just went into offensive hibernation, got outshot 12 to nothing by Ottawa,
05:39couldn't scrape up anything offensively, couldn't do anything or get any traction whatsoever,
05:44and didn't even land a shot on net. And then they end up losing it very quickly in overtime.
05:48So it seemed like they were kind of limping to the finish of that game. And even more concerning
05:55after the loss is Jim Montgomery's asked about the third period being a problem and like how you
06:01solve it or what the answers are. And he basically says, I don't know, I don't have any answers for
06:06it. And, you know, I just don't even if you fake it till you make it, as a coach, I think you have
06:12to come up with something after a loss and say, these are the reasons or this is who's being held
06:16accountable, or these are the problems. Simply having a look on your face, a kind of blank look
06:22of I don't know, I don't have any answers for it right now, we're going to have to get answers
06:25is not good enough as the head coach of an NHL team. You better damn well have answers after
06:30every time you lose and have explanations, have players that weren't pulling on the rope,
06:34have issues that need to be corrected. You know, that it just not good enough,
06:40like just like it's not good enough for the players to not have a shot on net in the third
06:45period, it is not good enough for an NHL coach to have no explanation for it afterwards, and no
06:51answers and be like, I'm I don't know, I'm gonna we're gonna have to think about it more, we'll go
06:55watch the video. Like that's not the coach has to have answers, some kind of answer, even if it's
07:01like not necessarily exactly the right answers, have something, you know, have something that you
07:06say, we're going to work on this, or, you know, this is a problem area, or this really bothered
07:10us in the third period, if you watch your team do nothing, get new do jack for 20 minutes,
07:16in the third period of a tie game, and you kind of say, I'm not even sure I don't have any answers
07:21for it afterwards. That's just not, that's not really what anybody's looking for. I think you've
07:25got to project confidence, you've got to project that you know, what the problems are, and how are
07:31you going to fix them, like immediately after a loss, you need to be the face after the loss
07:35that's projecting strength, resiliency, like all that stuff. And I think there's just times
07:41and it's happened in the playoffs to where you just get these strange answers from Jim Montgomery
07:45as to explaining how they're going to do better or what just happened, and how they go from there.
07:51And I think it's it's part of the reason why there's eventually going to be a coaching change
07:56here and a replacement is it's just, I think there are times where the moment gets too big,
08:02or where the speed things speed up. And you know, the there's no explanation afterwards,
08:09and there's not an ability to really dissect what just happened quickly afterwards and dissect the
08:15problems and be able to articulate it. And I think you kind of have to do that. As a head coach in
08:20the NHL, you have to be able to do those things. So I took that as a problem. And also like the
08:26shark, the sharks are cutting this starting a circle here, like Kevin Paul DuPont asked for
08:30the game friend of the podcast, been on here plenty of times, I'm sure we'll have him on again
08:34soon, started in on asking him why if he feels like the players aren't listening, if he feels
08:39like the message isn't getting through. And he denied it and basically got a little sort of,
08:45you know, the motive, like you write what you want, or you're going to write what you want,
08:49or you know, you figure that out in the media, that kind of a thing, throwing it back at us,
08:54which I think it's a legitimate question. And I think when the players are making the same
08:58mistakes over and over again, taking penalties, failing on the penalty kill, not scoring on the
09:02power play, disappearing offensively, some guys continuing to struggle, when all these things
09:08are consistently happening, and the same mistakes are happening over and over again, I think you
09:12have to start asking if the players aren't getting the message. If you talk about discipline,
09:16and then the next day, next game, you talk about fixing discipline, being better, all that stuff.
09:21And then the very next game, you take a penalty, the first shift of the game, like an offensive
09:25zone penalty, like, are you showing that you're actually like receiving the message? Are you
09:30showing that you're paying it lip service, and then going out and doing whatever you feel like
09:33doing? Like, these are legitimate questions. And I think we've seen this a lot with this Bruins team
09:38this year, where they're mentally making a lot of mistakes. They're making effort mistakes,
09:43they're making, you know, simple mental errors that they shouldn't be making. They're definitely
09:48having execution problems when it comes to the special teams units. So when you look at all these
09:53things, and they're repeating mistakes over and over again, I think that's when you have to A,
09:58certainly hold the players accountable. But B, I think, like wonder if the message isn't getting
10:03through if like things aren't getting being corrected. And if things aren't getting any
10:06better, that have consistently been a problem all season. And like, let's be honest, like the last
10:12couple of years, and I would say all three years, but certainly the last two years, the penalty
10:17thing has been huge problem. Under Jim Montgomery, there has been a very big lack of discipline when
10:22it comes to not taking penalties on this team consistently, for the last few years. So this
10:27isn't a new problem. This has been something that's been going on. I mean, we saw what,
10:31eight or nine too many men on the ice penalties in the playoffs last year. I think we've seen a
10:36lot of real big problems when it comes to this that have not been properly addressed. And that's
10:42a reflection on the coaching as far as I'm concerned. That's my opinion. And that's what I see.
10:47Um, and I'm, I'm wondering if the Bruins see if their management sees the same thing. I'm
10:52wondering if this, even though I'm sure there's negotiations going on for a contract for Jim
10:57Montgomery, like if they were certain he was their guy, they would assign him to an extension
11:01in the summertime. I don't think it would have spilled over into the regular season. And I think
11:05now, uh, we're seeing a lot of questions about him. We're seeing not exactly any vote of confidence
11:11from Don Sweeney or Cam Neely when it comes to the coaching. And we're seeing a lot of questions
11:16when they struggle. So I, you know, I think they've kind of made this situation. They don't
11:21allow it to get to this point. And I think now it's getting to a point where it needs to be
11:24resolved one way or the other. Um, you know, otherwise these questions are going to continue
11:29to linger. And I think the players and the way they play and the way they perform and respond
11:34to what's going on, uh, is, is, you know, very much a legitimate question as well.
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13:22questions here. Bruins J Raps on Twitter. Hard to say roster is any worse than last year. I agree.
13:30It could even be better on paper. I agree. Just looks like guys are checked out almost top to
13:35bottom. It's hard to pick more than three or four guys pulling their weight. And I would say
13:40game to game. It's that way. Usually there's three or four guys within a game that are absolutely
13:46getting it done. Um, you know, and it can change from game to game or like a pockets of game,
13:52which is where they're playing well. Um, and then it goes to somebody else.
13:56But I think the players are getting sick of the constant line juggling. This has to drive them
14:00all insane. Personal gripe. Trent Frederick is ridiculously overrated. Guys may love him in the
14:05room, but he's just not, not a guy on the ice. All right. Thanks. Bruins J Raps. Ah,
14:12I disagree with you on Trent Frederick. I think he's a good player. I think he's got a ton of
14:15potential. Uh, he showed it last year. He put up good numbers and he like does it while being a big
14:21strong power forward type that when he's right is, is a big physical factor on the ice. There's
14:27no doubt about it. Um, is he dominant? No, he definitely isn't, but I think he's a good player
14:32and I think he's definitely the kind of player you want on your roster. Um, if you want to be
14:36a good successful playoff team. Uh, I think he's obviously going through struggles right now. He's
14:42having as tough a time as anybody in the beginning of the season and he's been busted down to the
14:46fourth line the last couple of games as a result of it. He's got like one goal in 16 games. He's
14:51a minus player, you know, he's having a hard time. Uh, but I think he's going to come out of it. I
14:56have no doubts about him. Um, you know, one thing I did see, uh, when I'd watched him specifically,
15:02I've watched him the other day just to see if there was anything I could pick up on that he was
15:05doing. And the one thing I did notice with him is that he was forcing the puck to the point a lot
15:11in the offensive zone and it was getting turned over. It was turning into like a play that wasn't
15:16really going to lead to anything. And then the puck started going the other way. He did it three
15:20or four times, uh, where he, or at least a couple where he was forcing it to a defenseman at the
15:24point or he was forcing it to the point in general where I think the play for him and in
15:29whatever line he plays on is to, and he was doing it much better against Ottawa, uh, on Saturday
15:35night was just getting the puck down low in the corner or behind their net and getting to work
15:40and either letting, putting it in a position where his teammates could make a good play on it
15:45or putting in a position where he could go after it too and use his size and strength to really
15:48keep them, um, trapped in. And I think he's much better doing that than trying to work, uh, you
15:53know, trying to make these really complicated, uh, difficult plays to, to the point, uh, when,
15:59when keeping it simple and just dumping it down low is a great play always. And I think for him
16:04until he gets his confidence fully back to where it is, I think that's a great thing for him to do
16:09is, is to play simple, get pucks down low, uh, just like really like pound the D and work on
16:15keeping them hemmed into their end and putting pressure on them. And like I said, somebody else
16:20must've mentioned that to him because I thought he did much better at that particular part of the
16:24job, uh, on Saturday. And I've actually thought he played pretty well on Saturday. The problem
16:29with Frederick too, is he doesn't, we've seen a lot of special teams in the first month of the
16:34season because the Bruins are taking a lot of penalties and he doesn't really work on either
16:38special teams unit consistently. So he becomes a guy that like loses his feel a little bit and
16:44isn't playing and can go a while and fall out of rhythm when he's not getting a regular shift
16:49because of special teams fest has happened. Um, and that's part of it too. And I think that's a
16:54challenge for him. And I think that's a challenge in general to keep him sort of, uh, playing his
16:58best when, when they're going through stretches like that. So, uh, but to your bigger point,
17:04uh, yes, it does not look like the team is all going at the same time. It looks like there are
17:09passengers and a lot of them game to game. There was like, I believe eight players that didn't
17:14have a shot on net in Saturday night's loss to Ottawa, eight players that didn't have a shot on
17:19net. That is awful. That is a tremendous amount of passengers. That is way too many players that
17:25did not bring anything to the table in that game, bring their even B or C game into the, to the
17:30table. And this is what the problem becomes when it comes to coaching is when you have that many
17:36guys not showing up and you have that many guys not at their best and not doing their best and
17:41not putting everything out there, especially in the third period, we get no shots on net.
17:45Like something has to change. You can't get rid of all those players, but something has to change
17:49when that's happening over and over again. Like you, you can't live that same day and not do
17:55something different and not make a change. And especially when the coach afterwards basically
17:59doesn't have any answers for it. Like, that's just not, it's not a good situation. It's I would look
18:06at that if I were running the Bruins and say, what are we doing here? Like we're not getting
18:12traction. We're not getting like on a roll. We're not going anywhere right now. And it seems like
18:18there are no answers as to how to fix this. Like it's, you know, that somebody needs to come in
18:22that has answers to these problems and these issues and fix it. Like we can't sit there and
18:26say afterwards, I don't know. We'll have to look at the video and figure it out. Like that's not
18:30good enough. The players might say that the coach shouldn't be saying that. And I think I've been
18:36pretty clear on that in this podcast, but that's like just how I feel. Alright. Um, but thank you
18:41for the, the, the, and I do think the players are sick of the constant line juggling. I think part
18:45of the reason they played well, uh, in the last few games was players were playing with guys they
18:50wanted to play with. And I don't know if the coach said to the players, Hey, you guys make the lines,
18:55like, let's do it your way and see what happens. But like Zaka was at center playing with Pasternak,
19:00Zaka has had goals in his last two games. I think that's the best he's played. I think
19:03pasta looked better playing with Zaka. Um, I think Lindholm and Marshand are a really good
19:08combination together and, and, uh, played well together. And I think Lindholm brings a little
19:13bit of a Bergeron-esque game and presence. So he probably should be playing with Marshand
19:20given the way he plays and what he does. And I think you could see that, that they were a good
19:24combo and they, they did some good things. So, um, maybe that will stick. We'll see. But, uh,
19:31like, uh, I think that's a temporary fix when you turn it over to the players and say, Hey,
19:35who do you want to play with? Or we're going to like do exactly what you guys want to do
19:39and see where it gets us. Like, there's only so long you can do that before that doesn't work
19:43either. And then what do you do then? Um, but yeah, I think in general, the players will say
19:48it doesn't matter who they play with, but I think they, the juggling gets on players after a while
19:53and they, they probably want to be on consistent lines where they get used to playing with each
19:57other. All right. E Fijoli 17 on Twitter. When does Don Sweeney wake up here? And if he doesn't
20:05wake up, when does Neely or the Jacobs wake up? Well, truthfully, there are not going to be like
20:12heavy consequences until fans stop buying tickets. Uh, and I don't see that happening.
20:18Like this is still a good team. This is still an entertaining team on most nights. I will say
20:24the not playing well at home is a, it can be a problem. Like obviously if they don't perform
20:29well at home, that becomes an issue where the natives get restless because they're
20:33paying a lot of money for these tickets and they're not seeing the effort. And, and, you know,
20:38and especially if they start struggling in the middle of the division or start going into the
20:42lower half and falling out of the playoffs, like that's when it would be major changes that need
20:47to come. I'm not seeing any of that as of yet. And I think that's the only time, uh, the Jacobs
20:52would get involved really. Uh, but I do think it's got to be getting to a point where Don
20:57Sweeney and Kim Neely say something's going to give, cause they've done other things, right?
21:00They, um, put Riley Tufte and Max Jones on waivers. They signed Tyler Johnson. Johnson's
21:06looked pretty good in the first couple of games. He certainly looks like he's going to help.
21:10You know, they've, they've made some moves there as far as with the roster to try to stir things
21:14up and, uh, you know, to have like wake up calls by like guys sitting next to you is on waivers
21:20and gone down to Providence. And, and that should be a message to everybody that like,
21:24you need to pick it up and you need to perform. Um, and, and by the way, I think especially Max
21:29Jones and maybe even Tufte too, we'll see how he does down in Providence, but I think you'll see
21:34those guys again this year. I think Max Jones will help this team at some point, and he'll probably
21:37be back up again. And, uh, you know, we've, we've seen that with other players. Um, we saw that
21:42with Jeff's provoke quiz last year, who really wasn't a good fit at the beginning of the year,
21:47went down to Providence. And then the second half of the year really like found a job,
21:51found a niche. And I thought, uh, played pretty well. So I think we'll see those guys again,
21:56but they had to sign Tyler Johnson. They had to make the salary cap space by waving,
22:00um, those two players and see what he could do. Cause I think he just showed he's a higher end
22:04player than they are and that he's going to be able to help them more. And we've seen that in
22:08the first couple of games, he hasn't scored any points yet, no goals, no assists, but he does
22:13have, um, a plus he's a plus player, like plus three. He's had some shots on that. And I think
22:18he's shown that he can play top six wing and be very useful. Uh, I think he was playing with Zaka
22:23and Pasternak and, um, he looked good, you know, they looked good as a trio together.
22:28They definitely looked like they could play together and he could keep up with them. So
22:33you'll, they, they're, they've been awake. The Bruins have been making moves. The Bruins have,
22:37uh, tried different things, but it's been sort of like minor fixes or minor messages that they
22:43have been sending out. The, the major ones haven't come yet. The big trade hasn't come yet.
22:47Uh, changing the coach hasn't come yet, but I think if they continue to, to languish, uh,
22:53in the Atlantic division and, you know, play 500 hockey and win one, lose one, I think at some
22:59point, especially if they're making the same mistakes, if it's the same problems over and
23:03over again, I think you have to make a move of some kind to shake things up. Uh, apparently the,
23:08you know, it doesn't seem like they're there yet, but I think they are trending in that direction.
23:12If things don't turn around, I really do. Uh, but we'll see. Uh, but I, you know,
23:17the they're, they're methodical and they're not going to like panic and they're not going to make
23:21a, a, a move just for the sake of making a move. They're going to make a move that makes sense to
23:25them. This would be, I will say this, um, the Bruins are off today on Sunday after, um, the
23:34loss last night, they have a practice on Monday. They have two days between games. If they've
23:39really, really wanted to make a coaching change, this would be the time to do it.
23:42They would do it right now. Um, they would do it today. They would, you know, maybe have a
23:47press conference tomorrow and they would do it. And I'm don't think they're going to do that. It
23:51doesn't seem like they're going to do that. So, and I've not heard any word that they're going
23:55to do that. So I think that tells you that, um, they're going to continue for at least the time
23:59being and see how things continue to progress. Um, and we'll see, you know, Thanksgiving is a
24:06big deal. Uh, you need to be in a playoff spot. The Bruins are in a playoff spot today. They've
24:09got 16 points. They're third in the Atlantic. Um, they're definitely down as far as the regulation
24:14wins go, and that's going to hurt them in the tiebreakers. And that's important too.
24:18Uh, they're blowing a lot of regulation wins and having them go into overtime and not really
24:22playing hard for, for regulation wins. And that's a problem. Um, but I, I don't sense,
24:29uh, even though I, I think it's not going to get better for Jim Montgomery. I think he's going to
24:33start getting the hard questions, uh, the more the results aren't there. Um, and that may be when
24:39a move comes, but like at this point, it seems like the Bruins don't see enough, uh, that they
24:43have to make that move. Uh, even though I think there's evidence that, uh, that should be coming
24:48at some point. Um, all right. Beantown, and I find it hard to believe he's going to sign an
24:53extension, get signed to an extension based on what we've seen on the ice. I just do.
24:57Um, uh, hard for me to believe the Bruins are going to do that. Even if the contract talks
25:01are ongoing. Beantown fan eight. I think he knows, I think Montgomery knows he's done and
25:06he's coaching like it. Let's hope they hire someone competent, not the cheapest option this time.
25:12Um, I, I think he's definitely stressed. I would say that about Jim Montgomery and
25:19understandably. So I would be too like, um, you don't have the answers or you don't feel like
25:25you have the answers. You feel like a lot of players are struggling. Um, you feel like, uh,
25:30the message you're getting out there isn't getting received and executed on the ice.
25:34Uh, you don't have the security of a contract extension and you're, you know, feeling the
25:41heat. And I think he had multiple times this year, he has felt the heat and he has reacted to it.
25:46And at least he's fighting to keep control of the team. Like that part, I understand. And it's good
25:51that he's doing that and going down his way and his terms if it happens. And that's what indeed
25:55happens. Um, but I also think like you get to a certain point and if you're going down that road
26:03and you're holding the players accountable, you have to just do it. Um, you know, you, you,
26:08you can't, uh, pick your spots with that, with the, the best players, uh, to send messages to
26:16once and hope that that continues to be like an accountability thing for everybody on the team.
26:21Like I think you need to, you know, spread it out and everybody has to be accountable at certain
26:26points. And he has done that to a degree. There's no doubt about it, but I think it shows that he
26:31feels the pressure when he's doing that. When he's benching posture neck for a third period,
26:34when he's like yelling at Marcian on the bench, when he's being publicly critical of players,
26:39or like there was a game the other night where he benched a Beecher as well, the win over the flames
26:44or Beecher didn't get a lot of ice time and he shortened the bench, uh, dropping Trent Frederick
26:50to the fourth line. A lot of the stuff that's going on, uh, is him trying to get accountability
26:54and trying to get players attention. And, uh, it remains to be seen if that's going to continue to
26:58work. But, uh, I do think I would say he's coaching at times like he, the desperation is there and he
27:06knows that, uh, the pressure is on and rightfully so like that's the situation that Bruins have set
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29:21All right. Sergei Bubtinsky on Twitter. Maybe management should look into changes when the
29:27team constantly does the same thing, regardless of wins and losses. And this is my thing. Yes.
29:32You need to change something when you repeat the same mistakes, when you take
29:35undisciplined penalties, tons of offensive zone penalties, tons of penalties away from the play
29:39that aren't like saving goals. You are definitely flailing on the penalty kill like I haven't seen
29:47in years. And Montgomery attributed to new personnel that they're trying on the penalty kill
29:53and trying to work new people in. And that's definitely part of it. But like some of the guys
29:59that are having a tough time, some of the defensemen are not new. These are players that
30:03have been around for a while. So it's a combination of things, I think. And it's
30:09combination. They haven't gotten great goaltending consistently either from Jeremy Swainman, who's
30:14supposed to be your best penalty killer. So that's been part of it, too. But like the combination of
30:20taking bad penalties and a lot of penalties and leading the league in penalties and having a bad
30:24penalty kill is a dead leg. That's a fatal flaw that will kill you. You will not be able to
30:30consistently win games if those two things are happening. And they've been happening over and
30:34over and over again. And they haven't been fixed or addressed properly. It seems like the personnel
30:41is there for this team to be a good penalty kill team. Like I don't understand where that what that
30:45is about. Joe Sacco is in charge of the penalty kill. He's done a great job in the past. Seems
30:51like they're really having a hard time and having problems this year. So something needs to change.
30:57There's no doubt about it. Same goes power play power play struggling to and really the special
31:01teams in general just having a bad bad time of it. But then you also like the offense part and
31:08the forcing the offense and forcing plays and turning pucks over because trying to do too much
31:13like all that comes with losing and not scoring goals with like the way that they're playing that
31:18one. I understand. And I think that's explainable. And I wouldn't hold the head coach accountable for
31:24that and say that that's his fault. I think that's on the players. That's on everybody. And
31:28it's a byproduct of struggling at times to produce offense and generate offense and score.
31:34Now the one thing I would say is what I said before. The bad penalty is consistent under
31:39Montgomery. The penalty kill now not performing under Montgomery. The power play has been real
31:44hit or miss as special teams I would say have not been consistently outstanding under Jim Montgomery
31:50and definitely not this year. Like those are the kind of areas and defensive breakdowns too. When
31:55you have defensemen that are out of position and you know up ice when they should be in front of
32:01the net and you know are trying to do different things when they need to like focus on stopping
32:06the puck and shutting the other team down first. Or not screening the goalie and blocking a shot
32:11for instance. That happened last night with Nikita Zdorov and that's happened a bunch with
32:15McAvoy where he hasn't gotten in front of shots and blocked them. Like those kind of things you
32:19you've got to change that. You've got to fix that. That's got to that's that's like a problem area
32:24that needs to be addressed like immediately. But the penalties for me the penalties in the special
32:31teams are the things I consistently look at and say this is why I would lean towards making a
32:36change with the coach. Because these have been problems all year. They have not been fixed
32:41and they continue to be problems. And like that doesn't seem like it's getting any better.
32:46And that's when you need to find a different voice if it's not getting better and it's not
32:50improving despite focused attention on improving. Kinshmo on Twitter. Starting to think they need a
32:57major shakeup. Shuffling lines non-stop. Isn't doing it. Benching pasta did nothing. He's lost
33:02the room in quotes. But they also need a seismic shift. I'd listen to offers on Charlie McAvoy.
33:06Get some offense for his giant cap hit. I mean that's a big deal. That's a big one trading
33:14Charlie McAvoy. I would not do that because the potential is there for him to play great. The
33:18potential is there for him to be a number one defenseman. I don't think he's had a great year
33:22but I don't I think Lampus Lindholm has been their most consistent defenseman honestly. I think he's
33:28been the best defenseman they've had offensively. He's created things. He did it again and I think
33:34it was last night where he had a take and took it to the net and somebody scored on the rebound.
33:38It was either last night or Calgary but like he's been more involved offensively. He has been pretty
33:44solid defensively. He's played big minutes. He's like done his role like really well and I think
33:49he's avoided like some of the penalties that he took last year that really stood out to me is not
33:53great either. So I think he's improved his game and I think he stepped it up and I think he's
33:58playing like he wants to stay and he wants to be a member of the Boston Bruins.
34:02And McAvoy has struggled and Carlo has struggled at times and Andrew Peek is now hurt and Mason
34:09Lowry has struggled at times. Zdorov I think has definitely struggled like he's had some moments
34:15but I think he's also like taken way too many penalties and I think he struggled at times to
34:21like being out of position trying to do too much. Like I said last night I think he flash screened
34:27the goalie where he was like skating by the goalie as the shot was coming and Jeremy Swayman
34:34never even reacted to the shot. Didn't even see it. Certainly didn't react to it. It was Adario's
34:39goal. Michael Adario. Didn't even see it because I think Zdorov was just like going by him as the
34:46puck was getting released. So you know I think Charlie McAvoy is not alone. Like great expectations
34:52come with great power comes great responsibility and great expectations. I think he's a great
34:59player and I think you expect a ton out of him because of that and he hasn't lived up to that.
35:04But I don't think you cut bait on him at all. Like I think you've got to be patient with him
35:10and let him get back to his game. I think he's the kind of guy that maybe could be a lot better
35:14under a different coach honestly. And I think that's why you don't go there. You know Morgan
35:22Geeky Trent Frederick those kind of players could they be in danger of being dealt if they things
35:26don't get better potentially. Like I think that would be the level of shake up move they would
35:30make the Bruins would make if they had to especially if they needed to go out and get
35:34more goal scoring and get maybe a different you know maybe change the the vibe in the dressing
35:41room a little bit. But you know for Trent Frederick's a popular guy in that room. People like
35:46guys like him. He stands up for his teammates. He's a funny guy. He's a good guy. He's a hard
35:52worker. Like I think he's all those things. I have nothing but respect and admiration for Trent
35:57Frederick. I think he's a good player a good person. All that stuff. And I think it would
36:01affect the Bruins in a big way if he was dealt. So I don't see that coming. I think you would
36:06make a coaching change before you start trading players off the roster especially guys that
36:10you're still you know very much thinking that they're going to be a part of the long term
36:14picture. But I your bigger point about there being a need for a shake up on this team. I
36:22agree. And I think the shake up is changing coaches. I think that's the the most
36:30reachable most realistic and least potentially high risk or damaging move that they can make.
36:37You know I think they need to do something about the coaching. I need to think they need to make
36:41a change. And I think that's the most logical reasonable area where they can make a high
36:49impact move that will shake things up that will give this team a boost that will definitely like
36:54get them out of the malaise that Jim Montgomery said they were in after the game last night.
37:00And it's unfortunate like NHL coaches don't deserve it. I think they're Jim Montgomery's
37:04done a good job there in the regular season certainly is one last record's been excellent.
37:09The playoffs have been a little spotty here. But I think you know sometimes it's not your fault.
37:15Sometimes you did the best that you could and it's just you know wasn't working out. And I think
37:20it's kind of getting to that point with the Boston Bruins where you know they need to see
37:26I think they need to hear a different voice. They need to go in a different direction
37:31and see if that is the thing that they need to boost them forward and get them out of the funk.
37:36And if it's not okay then maybe you move on to trades. But I think the coach is the next one
37:42in the line after you've waived Riley Tufte sent him to Providence after you've waived Max Jones
37:48sent him to Providence after you've signed Tyler Johnson after you've done some of the things that
37:53you can do with this roster that are not going to be seismic that are going to be like little
37:58wake-up calls but nothing major. I think the next thing is the coach and you see how they react to
38:03that and if that gets them on the right track and if that moves them in the right direction.
38:07And frankly a different voice brings different performances out of some of these players.
38:12And then if it's still the same thing then you kind of move on to the players. But I think in
38:16the line of things that you do as a manager in the NHL to address a team that you feel like's
38:22not living up to their potential I don't think that step is there yet. I think you'd be skipping
38:26a step with the coach and moving to that if you started trading roster pieces or core pieces
38:31from that group when it probably isn't merited or called for. But that's just me. You know
38:39everybody's entitled to their opinion. Maybe people think everybody should be traded from
38:43the roster but I would change the coach first and see if that works and then move on to the
38:47roster after that. We'll see what the Bruins do though. They're in a playoff spot so maybe
38:51they're not feeling the urgency to do it right now but they are definitely treading water and
38:57they've got to get more out of a lot more players on this team that are seemingly going through the
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