NHKスペシャル 2024年11月17日 8000mで見た生と死 ~写真家 石川直樹の記録
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00:00This is the 14th mountain in the world, which is over 8,000 meters above sea level.
00:19On October 4th, we will reach the highest point of Shishaparma.
00:26This is the moment when we reach the summit.
00:35There is no higher place than here.
00:41The 14 summits of the 8,000-meter-high mountain in the world are called the 14 summits.
00:49The famous climbers have been named.
00:56However, Naoki Ishikawa is not a climber, but a photographer.
01:06It is the first time in history that a photographer has become a 14-summit climber.
01:17The world at 8,000 meters above sea level has 1 third of the world's oxygen.
01:26The average temperature is below minus 30 degrees.
01:37Even if I have a very, very expensive vehicle, I can't reach the top of that mountain.
01:43I want to go to a place where only my body can go.
01:49Ishikawa has been pushing the shutter for more than 20 years in such a world.
01:58Of course it's hard, but that's why it's worth it.
02:14Why did Ishikawa continue to climb 8,000 meters?
02:22I ask myself the meaning of the act of climbing, but I don't stop climbing.
02:30Why?
02:32Because there are new discoveries and encounters.
02:37When you climb a mountain, you meet a world and yourself that you have never seen before.
02:45From there, another world expands.
03:07It was a pretty dangerous mountain.
03:10What the hell is this?
03:19What do people seek to climb a mountain?
03:24What did Ishikawa see there?
03:29What Ishikawa saw there...
03:49Ishikawa Naoki gazed at the world of 8,000 meters.
03:54It is a record of 23 years that Naoki Sasaki looked at the world of 8,000 meters.
04:10Kathmandu, Nepal
04:13It is the base of the Himalayan mountain.
04:25Photographer Naoki Ishikawa, 47 years old.
04:39He has visited this town many times.
04:42Tomorrow, he will set off for the last 8,000 meters.
04:558,000 meters is the world's 14th highest mountain.
04:59In 2023, Ishikawa climbed the 13th mountain,
05:03and Shishapamma was the last one.
05:19In October 2023,
05:21Ishikawa climbed Shishapamma.
05:29The summit was in front of him,
05:317,000 meters above sea level.
05:35At that time,
05:36the American woman, Anna Guthu, was with Ishikawa.
05:41She had already climbed the 13th mountain.
05:46Ishikawa and Anna were taking a break.
05:49At that time,
05:50the American woman, Gina Ruzsidolo,
05:53came up with a strong momentum from below.
05:58Gina had already climbed the 13th mountain.
06:01She said,
06:02if she climbed Shishapamma first,
06:04she would be the first American woman to reach the 14th summit.
06:08A dead heat began.
06:11It was like a race.
06:14Normally,
06:15we would tie a rope to secure safety.
06:20We would perform a ritual called Tsuja,
06:23which is a prayer ritual.
06:26But we didn't do any of that.
06:30It was like,
06:32who would reach the summit first?
06:35Anna, who was resting by Ishikawa's side,
06:38headed to the summit to shake off Gina.
06:42In order to defeat Anna,
06:44Gina took a different route to reach the summit.
06:48At that time,
06:49something strange happened.
06:56Anna was swallowed up by the waves.
07:01Anna was swallowed up by the waves.
07:06When she looked at Gina,
07:08she was heading for the summit.
07:14Ishikawa took a picture of Gina,
07:17who was 200 meters below the summit.
07:20He was led by the guide's Sherpa to the summit.
07:25Fifteen minutes later,
07:31Gina was also swallowed up by the waves.
07:37These two waves happened in front of Ishikawa.
07:44Four people died in front of me
07:48because of the waves.
07:53I haven't been able to get any information yet.
07:59I have no choice but to go to the summit.
08:03I'm going to the summit now.
08:11Anna and Gina.
08:13Four Sherpas lost their lives.
08:21It wasn't a big wave.
08:23It was a small wave
08:25that swept away one of the Sherpas
08:27and another one.
08:29I thought it came from the side of the river.
08:37When I saw it,
08:43I felt something strange.
08:48I was the last one to take a picture.
08:53I'm still thinking about it.
09:05Ishikawa climbed 8,000 meters for the first time
09:0923 years ago.
09:18I'm at the summit.
09:22It's May 23rd, 10 a.m.
09:27It's been a long time.
09:29I'm finally here.
09:34Ten years later,
09:36Ishikawa, who was active as a photographer,
09:39challenged Everest again.
09:42This is the summit.
09:44You can see the setting sun of Everest behind me.
09:52With my own eyes,
09:54I want to record the current Everest.
09:58I want to capture it on film.
10:01That's why I came here.
10:078,000 meters of climbing is
10:10very different from normal climbing.
10:15In the case of Everest,
10:17you set up a base camp at an altitude of 5,300 meters.
10:22Then, while raising the altitude of Camp 1 and Camp 2,
10:27you gradually get used to it and aim for the summit.
10:35Let's go to my tent now.
10:38You use a small tent like this one
10:41above the base camp.
10:45The members of the same climbing team share a tent.
10:51At an altitude of over 7,000 meters,
10:54the temperature drops below minus 10 degrees even in spring.
10:59They eat dry rice and canned food.
11:05I'm going to eat kabayaki with this.
11:14At an altitude of over 8,000 meters,
11:17the oxygen level is one-third of that of the ground.
11:21It makes you lose consciousness.
11:25I think one night is very hard.
11:32It's still hard for me.
11:36Well...
11:41At midnight, we headed to the summit.
11:48We're heading south now.
11:52We're almost at the South Summit.
11:59Just below the summit,
12:01we saw the Everest in the clouds.
12:12It was the night of the summit push.
12:17The stars looked as big as tennis balls.
12:25When the sun rose,
12:28the color of the sky was dark black.
12:35It was as dark as space.
12:39It was as dark as space.
12:43It was as dark as space.
12:47It was as dark as space.
12:50Ishikawa took a picture of the blue of the universe.
13:01We're at the summit of Everest.
13:05I'm so happy.
13:08There's no place higher than this.
13:12There's no place higher than this.
13:24Ishikawa's journey to a world he'd never seen before
13:30began when he was a sophomore in high school.
13:34He carried his backpack and headed to India.
13:40He saw a corpse floating on the Ganges River.
13:44He was bewildered by children swimming in peace.
13:53Since then, Ishikawa has traveled the world.
13:59In order to keep it in his memory forever,
14:02Ishikawa began to express his journey in photos and texts.
14:10This is Thomas, the captain.
14:17Ishikawa was not satisfied with his ordinary journey.
14:23When he was 22 years old,
14:25he went from the North Pole to the South Pole
14:28with his seven friends from all over the world.
14:40Star Navigation, inherited from Micronesia,
14:44is an ancient navigation technique
14:47where you look up at the stars and cross the sea.
14:55He became a disciple of the master,
14:58and relied on the stars only,
15:00aiming for an island like heaven floating in the Pacific Ocean.
15:04He navigated for nine days.
15:10What Ishikawa was determined to do
15:13was to sharpen his sense of self and travel.
15:20If you can replace all the elements,
15:23not just machines and equipment,
15:26with wisdom,
15:29you can continue to walk with one body.
15:35It is the simplest and most powerful way of life
15:39to maximize the power of the wild that humans have.
15:55Ishikawa's charm in the 8,000-meter run
15:58was to use his body to the limit.
16:05It is the body that brings out his wildness to the maximum.
16:14However, the 8,000-meter run was dangerous.
16:25In Nepal's Annapurna,
16:27he was attacked by many waves.
16:34In Pakistan's Nanga Parbat...
16:44...a chunk of ice larger than a car
16:47crushed the tent of the mountaineering team.
16:50Oh, no, no, no!
16:52Zero!
16:56Oh, my!
17:03Some climbers were killed in the fall
17:06because of the symptoms of mountain sickness.
17:21Just below the top of Lhotse,
17:24a body of a climber,
17:26unknown to the time,
17:28was swaying in the wind.
17:43In such a world of 8,000 meters,
17:46Ishikawa was drawn to the opposite.
17:50In the Himalayas,
17:52you breathe deeply and quickly.
17:55You eat well to move tomorrow.
17:58You sleep well to climb higher tomorrow.
18:01You become very conscious of living.
18:05As you do that,
18:07you start to open up your senses.
18:10The wildness that humans usually have
18:14gradually opens up.
18:17You don't get that kind of feeling
18:20in the city.
18:34Ishikawa was very different
18:37from the other 14 summiters.
18:41He was trying to capture
18:44all of the 8,000-meter summit
18:47in a film.
18:51This is the camera.
18:53Can you operate it with gloves on?
18:56No, you have to remove the gloves
18:59and change the film.
19:02That's pretty risky.
19:05Of course, it's hard.
19:08But that's why it's worth doing it.
19:11No one else does it.
19:18Shibuya, Tokyo.
19:27Ishikawa shares his experience
19:30of taking pictures of the 8,000-meter summit
19:34with his friends.
19:41It's a place that I can't go to.
19:44But I felt like I was there.
19:47I was very moved.
19:58This is the 8,000-meter world
20:01that Ishikawa captured.
20:05It's a beautiful mountain.
20:09It's a beautiful mountain in Baltic language.
20:17It's not a place for Ishikawa
20:20to set a new record.
20:23It's a place he wants to keep in his memory.
20:26We've arrived at the summit.
20:34There are so many things
20:37that you notice when you look at a photo.
20:40When you look back at a photo
20:43five or ten years later,
20:46you can see what was reflected
20:49and what was close by.
20:52I feel like I'm going on a different journey.
20:57I want to record everything I see.
21:06In 2020, due to the spread of COVID-19,
21:09people around the world
21:12were limited in their activities.
21:16The Himalayas were closed
21:19and it was impossible to go hiking.
21:26I was anxious.
21:33The world is full of more interesting things.
21:38I don't want to waste my time
21:41looking at a new world
21:44and spending every day in perfection.
21:50Ishikawa was looking for a shelter in Japan.
21:55He went to the back alleys of Shibuya.
21:59There, he met people who stimulated the five senses.
22:02There were children.
22:17It's a mouse.
22:22This is Sumika.
22:28People around here are trying to help.
22:31But it's hard to find a place to stay.
22:35He was running around
22:38trying to get to know the people.
22:43In the Himalayas and Shibuya,
22:46I wanted to see the unknown.
22:50In such a crowded city,
22:53the mice were walking around freely.
22:56I wanted to see what humans left behind
23:00and see how they lived.
23:07I realized again
23:10that in this city
23:13that I've been to for decades,
23:16there was an unknown wild life.
23:19It was very interesting.
23:23In 2022,
23:26for the first time in two years,
23:29the Himalayas were opened.
23:38Ishikawa headed to the Himalayas
23:41as if he had been released.
23:44There are people you must see
23:47when you climb 8,000 meters.
23:50It's Sherpas.
23:58Sherpas are a minority group
24:01who came from Tibet to Nepal.
24:04In winter, they go to the Himalayas
24:07where the ice melts.
24:10They live off of medicinal herbs
24:13and potatoes.
24:30They are hired as guides
24:33to help them climb the Himalayas.
24:40Sherpas were born and raised in the Himalayas
24:43and are passionate about climbing.
24:46During the climbing season,
24:49they first climb the slopes
24:52where there are no footprints
24:55and then put up ropes
24:58to make a safe route.
25:02The Sherpas climbed up
25:05and put up a fixed rope
25:08and the Sherpas came back.
25:16Sherpas are often hired
25:19for short-term expeditions.
25:26They know the fear of the mountains better than anyone.
25:29Before climbing the mountains,
25:32they must perform a ritual
25:35before climbing the mountains.
25:53Sherpas are strong in the mountains.
25:56They are very strong.
25:59I can't put it in other words.
26:02Their physical strength is very strong.
26:05They are strong,
26:08not because they can walk fast.
26:11They are strong in general.
26:14When it comes to a rock or a slope,
26:17they know which route to take
26:20and which direction to go.
26:23They are strong in every aspect
26:26because they have an open mind.
26:32One day, Ishikawa was fascinated by the powerful life force of the Sherpas, and he decided to give them a lens.
26:49Ishikawa had a special Sherpa, the Pemba Tenjin.
26:57Ishikawa met the Pemba when he was 47 years old.
27:03He was 27 years old at the time, but he had a strange feeling of closeness to the Pemba.
27:15The Pemba had a special ability.
27:20He knew how to navigate any complex terrain, and found a route right away.
27:27His partner was the Rocket Pemba.
27:35The Pemba's power was demonstrated by a mountain, the Kanchenjunga.
27:42This mountain is known for its complex terrain.
27:59At this time, the Sherpa, who was leading the Pemba, lost his way to the top of the mountain.
28:07They made a mistake and went in the opposite direction from the top of the mountain.
28:19They went down the mountain to recover their strength.
28:30They prayed for safety and headed for the top again.
28:38The next day.
28:41This is the second time I've come to the summit of the Kanchenjunga.
28:45The first time, I made a mistake at the top.
28:49This time, I came to make sure I didn't make a mistake.
28:54The Pemba is in front of me.
28:58The Pemba was entrusted with the second challenge, to guide the Sherpas.
29:04The Pemba is on its way to open the route.
29:12Standing at the top, the Pemba opens the route with a rope.
29:23I'm scared.
29:25I'm scared.
29:33Ishikawa kept walking after the Pemba.
29:38I'm scared.
29:47The first 8,000-meter-high mountain peak was visible in the distance to the west.
29:52I pushed the shutter.
30:01I came to the top of the Kanchenjunga at 6 a.m.
30:06It was harder than I thought.
30:09It couldn't have been any harder.
30:22The Pemba became an irreplaceable partner for Ishikawa, beyond just a guide.
30:37It's the Pemba.
30:39We climbed together.
30:43In 2022, Ishikawa teamed up with the Pemba.
30:52This is the Pemba.
30:57It's a secret here.
30:59It's tough.
31:01The K2 continues a steep cliff.
31:06The Broad Peak, suffering from snow and strong winds.
31:10We climbed 8,000 meters in four months.
31:15We're at the top of the Broad Peak, but it's all white and we can't see anything.
31:24The Broad Peak was a pretty dangerous mountain.
31:29What the hell is this?
31:34The Pemba wasn't just strong.
31:37He lost his brother, who was also a guide, in a mountain accident.
31:42He knew the fear of the mountains more than anyone else.
31:50Every night before he went to the top, he would pray alone in his tent.
31:58He cherished respect and faith in the unseen.
32:09I remember that from the back of his mind.
32:17When Ishikawa realized that he had a trustworthy partner,
32:21he climbed the 8,000-meter-high Broad Peak.
32:27Around this time, Ishikawa began to realize the importance of the 14-meter-high Broad Peak.
32:36At that time, there was a riot at the mountaineering club.
32:46A world-renowned mountaineering database began to rewrite the list of people who climbed the 8,000-meter-high Broad Peak.
32:57As a result of understanding the terrain with a drone,
33:01it was found that people climbed the peak at a place other than the highest point.
33:06Ishikawa climbed the peak of Manasuru.
33:15Now I'm at the top of Manasuru.
33:18Manasuru, which Ishikawa climbed in 2012, was also deleted from the list of people who climbed it.
33:28Ishikawa decided to re-climb Manasuru.
33:34It was because he made a promise with Tenba.
33:39I've talked to him many times about climbing the 14-meter-high Broad Peak together.
33:49He knew full well that this kind of job wouldn't last long.
33:58The more you do it, the higher the risk of dying.
34:03So you have to quit somewhere.
34:05After I finish the 14-meter-high Broad Peak with Naoki, I'll quit this job.
34:15Ishikawa climbed the 8,000-meter-high 14-meter-high Broad Peak with Tenba and challenged Manasuru again.
34:24His partner, of course, was Tenba.
34:32Now I'm at the 6,100-meter-high Camp 2.
34:36I'm going to aim for the top of Manasuru, the real peak.
34:43At this time, there was a strong gust of wind and many climbers retreated.
34:57Ishikawa came to the 7,000-meter-high point with Tenba.
35:01Tenba, who sensed Ishikawa's anxiety, took off.
35:06Tenba took off like this.
35:11Should I aim for the top or retreat?
35:15I have to decide now.
35:18There is no choice but to wait.
35:21Tenba asked me to make a decision.
35:25Let's go.
35:27I said without thinking.
35:30Can I really go in this situation?
35:33I was relieved, but I went on while looking at Tenba's back.
35:44Last time, I came to the place I thought was the top.
35:50From there to the real top, it is only 30 meters in a straight line.
35:56But the snow is deep and I can't go straight.
36:00I had to get off once and take a route at this time.
36:09It took about an hour to walk 30 meters.
36:14I've never been this far.
36:21Hey, Nagi!
36:30I can't see the top!
36:37I can't see the top!
36:40I can't see the top!
36:44I can't see the top!
36:49Only Ishikawa and Tenba were on the real top.
36:54It was just the two of us.
36:58Right now, I'm at the top of Mt. Magasaru.
37:03The weather is bad, and the wind is too strong.
37:08It's a bit of a mess.
37:11There's no one here, so I thought I'd go all the way up.
37:20Mt. Magasaru is really high.
37:25I couldn't see with my right eye, and I couldn't feel anything with my right hand.
37:31But I took out my camera with my right hand.
37:41And then, I pushed the shutter to the top of Mt. Magasaru.
37:47Annapurna, the 10th peak of Mt. Magasaru
37:53Annapurna, the 10th peak of Mt. Magasaru.
37:56This year, the weather wasn't stable, and Ishikawa was suffering.
38:02I'm waiting for the weather to get better, and I'm going to go again.
38:08But Penba wasn't there.
38:11It was because there was another expedition that had been decided in advance.
38:18I'm heading to the campsite from Camp 1 in Annapurna.
38:22It's snowing heavily.
38:30Ishikawa was worried about the snowfall and couldn't move forward.
38:34He was lying in his tent, and then he heard from his fellow Sherpas.
38:42Penba died.
38:49It was the last time that Penba had been to Mt. Magasaru.
38:55It was the last time that Penba had been to Mt. Magasaru.
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