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00:00Be nice to the guru man now back to Stiney and guru on 95 7 the game. I'm okay
00:09Yeah, well, I mean know the show this is my guy
00:15He's got a voice and uh, you know, he can use in different ways to make people think he's something he's not but he's not
00:20Dwayne to rock Johnson
00:22Fine Willard. Okay. I did stop making my early lunch today when you when you decided to
00:30And I'm using Lindy Waters as an example. This is great. And you were like don't it don't ever give up
00:37Yeah, and you're your brain Stiney took that
00:42Like I what you said had merit
00:44But it it's the funniest thing of all time that you respond to that and be like and don't forget kids
00:50There are also times where you should get out. I could and you're not wrong
00:55I like the example you gave you're 60
01:03I'll admit it's a judgment call at times
01:08If she says no to an offer of a date eight times
01:25Married man with a two-year-old because I didn't give up
01:29And I was just asking them for the for the drop of your famous drop of putting gets a bad name
01:35I forgot that it didn't make the trip from the old building
01:39So today is a new reset and I just thought it was uh, like Mark said fascinating
01:44We went from Lindy Waters and what a you know, dramatic come from behind story to hey if I get fired
01:51You know
01:53It's just great. All right, you guys just brought something to help us man about the man's own thing. Give it to me
02:00Yeah
02:01James the 49ers of the 49ers to leading receivers are zone beaters and nobody's playing zone
02:07Because I asked you has your opinion of Debo change not at all and you said no not at all
02:12I don't think Debo's lost the step
02:13I think that this is like it's kind of a lazy narrative now that like oh he can't get around the edge
02:19So Debo's getting old. I don't think Debo's getting old told the roast. He's worried about his wardrobe not football
02:24That's gotta hurt if I'm Debo Samuel
02:26I think it's the most hilarious thing about time that Terrell Owens, but he gave you everything on the field
02:32That's a bad judge. Oh, yeah, so does Debo like if I
02:37Okay, I get out of practice and I flip open my phone and I see
02:42Terrell Owens
02:44Thinks I'm thinking about my outfit Hall of Famer. Yeah
02:50Very popular, of course, he worked his tail off. So does Debo
02:53I I'm not and I'm just not saying that they're equal players Terrell Owens or Hall of Famers
02:58You just said Debo. So what's Allen Debo then Mark like Scottie's question about the same thing that's ailing all of these guys
03:06The whole thing is underperforming
03:08I know it's super unsatisfying
03:10But to continue
03:12To have the four of us in a room and a line of a board of phone callers picking who to blame Wow
03:18They're all wrong. It's everybody
03:21Fred's not performing anymore. Trent's not performing Debo's not performing Brock's not performing Kyle's not performing like all like
03:30Or people aren't available. Brandon's not available
03:32Dre is not available like the whole party didn't throw the whole deal is not like the Warriors are the best example
03:40to tell you what's going on with the 49ers all the core pieces of the Warriors were there last year and
03:47they couldn't really perform and this year there are 11 and 3 and
03:52You'd argue by getting rid of a Hall of Famer and bringing in people. You've never heard of like Lindy Waters. Why?
04:00Straw stir in the drink this year to all the famers if you look at it that way. Yeah, exactly a good point
04:05They're like the whole thing is just fitting with the Warriors this year it does feel like yeah
04:11The ingredients with the Niners are somehow off it felt we played a lot of the Co sell sound from your guy's show yesterday
04:17and it does feel like
04:20He thinks Purdy's not the same player or not making the same reads for whatever reason he can't get in his mind
04:27Well, and I think that you can look at it and you can see it for a number of different reasons
04:31All he will talk about is what's on the tape, right?
04:33What he sees in the tape is he's not seeing it like he used to and he's got open receivers down the field and he's not
04:39Throwing it and then we in our business we can think about why and we can all speculate
04:45We it's a speculation sensation and I love to do it
04:48It's either he's worried about the contract or he doesn't trust the offensive line
04:54Or his shoulder hurts or you know, whatever it is, maybe it's probably a little bit of all of it
05:00But the bottom line is what we saw last year was Brock Purdy
05:04Letting it rip and making throws and seeing it and throwing it and in ripping it and this year
05:10It's he gets back there and he's like, how do I get out of this? How do I run?
05:14You know, that's what I see y'all y'all saw the the development 20 minutes ago on Purdy, right?
05:18No, I'll say that like he threw today in practice. Okay, I live in the third quarter of the practice
05:24He left and did not come back the third period of like 12 periods and he was
05:30And then he left I've been left at the altar and he did not come back this year
05:35Info like that for player a B or C and I'm like, this is a nothing burger Sunday morning
05:41They're out. So let's hope like hail Oh God with that report that he's not out
05:48Yeah, I don't think he'll be out and here's here's why I read into this a little bit differently
05:53And yes, it's not a good thing that he didn't want to finish practice, but it's Thursday
05:57And if it's a soreness issue, or maybe there's a little something in there
06:03Then it's time to call
06:05As Motley Crue would sing. He's the one they call. Dr. Feel good. He's the one who makes it. All right
06:11Yes, and the shoulder you can needle up and so you can needle him not like Steini needles you
06:17Yeah, and you do need to go easier on the go. Just stop it according to some
06:22My only thing is stop making bets. That's that's where you need to knock
06:41Fun on the show, I gotta take a couple
06:43I didn't say don't be fun, but I mean
06:48Last year that you took like the Warriors against the field or something after I won the Warriors road bid
06:54Lakers gonna make the Western Conference finals. I'm 50-50
07:04I don't know what you guys did about the Warrior win total at the start of the year over 43 and a half, but
07:10Maybe Shapiro just sent out a message to all of us. I don't know if you're on his yeah
07:15I get his distro list, but the current over-under for wins for the Warriors is 51
07:20That's it
07:21So if you want to bet it right now
07:22It's gone to 51 and I was prior to them winning last night by the way that I saw that and they are the number
07:27one riser in the NBA
07:29Yeah, they went up eight days if you wanted a hook
07:33Yeah, well I put as much as I could
07:37Which is not a lot
07:38I put as much as I could on them preseason at at over 43 and a half
07:42They don't even need to play 500 basketball the rest of the way to do that. Yeah, 44 wins. Yeah, that's a cookie
07:47They only need 33 more
07:49Yeah, hey Willard. This is for you. This is for you and dibs. So Stiney brought this up
07:54We're talking about next year and I'm mr
07:56Parties playing for a blank check just we got to do this and Stiney, you know brings it up his contract thing situation
08:03To where there's a way he could come back and the Niners don't have to pay him and I go the Niners will look bad
08:09It doesn't go from blank check to that. But do you think of somehow?
08:14He was just pedestrian
08:16Not all his fault that the Niners could be what I deem that cutthroat and have them do the Jonathan coming as I called it
08:24Oh god, they were dead the way you asked it
08:27Absolutely, Daniel Jones press conference today this how I did not and they got him in the red dude
08:32They're they're making him want to go had a Jimmy G conference about an hour ago say goodbye. Oh, no, thank you
08:39It's been really great my time here with the Giants. What a classy organization
08:43I'm in the red jersey man, like just I saw a report that they had they had him playing safety on the scout team
08:48Yeah, I'm glad I mean now. I mean, I think he's I don't think he's but he's not playing anymore. No
08:55So and we've seen that the reason I bring that up is let's pretend. Let's go down your road
09:02You come back next offseason and you're like prove it to us Brock
09:07Wow, that is from an emotional standpoint
09:10The lack of backing of your player has a trickle-down effect through the entire locker room
09:17That I think is disastrous in the league, right?
09:19So I'm not saying I'm not saying that that means you have to sign him, but I am saying you have to decide
09:25You have to decide next offseason if he's your that's already decided and Matt Barrow said to you guys earlier
09:31Today that the market is the market and you guys even delved further into it and he went through some of the machinations
09:38Which might take place like okay, the Jets continues to devolve Aaron Rodgers
09:48Arnold's a free agent, Minnesota. Maybe you could bring in Sammy D
09:52Okay, you're gonna give Sammy three and a hundred and and let him replace block Brock
09:58I mean Brock is better than almost any other option you have other than roll the dice in the draft and what should do or Sanders
10:06What are we doing? Right? What about if Atlanta thinks panics is ready. I knew your head would go there
10:12Those kind of guys. I mean, I think that's more realistic than the other thing. Okay, just yeah, I think Rogers is probably
10:20Physically do it. No one's gonna give him any juice anymore. They gave him a whole organization and it exploded. He's playing like, mr
10:26Rogers I look Brock is I don't think we're anywhere near Brock is not the guy talk
10:32I do I am interested in the stuff that you just brought up Stiney on the co-sell breakdown of
10:39Okay, he's not seeing it the same. He's not letting it rip the set. There you go. Why I
10:45Want to know I told you why what I think I think of all the sports
10:51football you you you need
10:5511 guys on the same pit like in basketball one guy can win you a game
10:59Yeah, so but I baseball a guy hits two homers you can win the game but in football whether you like it or not
11:05You are way more reliant on your teammates than in any other sport. And if they're not playing well
11:12It's going to impact you more than in any other sport
11:15Well, let me throw this at you because I saw Albert Breer go on with cowherd earlier today
11:19And one of the subjects was Brock's looming
11:22Contract situation and what Breer referenced was what the Niners have to sort of decide is
11:29Is Brock Purdy it's not is he good enough to play quarterback?
11:33Is he good enough to take the organization through a reboot in other words?
11:38We're gonna have to get rid of some other people
11:41Look at what the Chiefs did no Tyreek Hill reboot. We're fine
11:46Let's win two Super Bowls and then even lower look at what the Bills did this year
11:50Got rid of a bunch of people on defense. Goodbye, Stefan Diggs. We're drafting a wide receiver
11:55Look at the packers same thing. The Packers are in the middle of a real but their quarterback was kind of part of that though
12:00Like he was just chillin on the bench and the Bills go Josh Allen's good enough and look at them
12:06They're nine and two. Yeah, that's the question
12:08The 49ers face is is Brock Purdy and and I don't think he's not Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes
12:15No one is but that's the question. They have to answer. Could you get rid of Debo?
12:20Good Trent retire. He's almost invisible now, right? Could Christian, you know start to decline and
12:27They brought can Brock take you through that and still play at a really high level
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12:42Yeah, I'm I mean I was just thinking if the season continues like it continues and you miss the playoffs
12:49eight or eight nine nine and a
12:55Then what's gonna happen
12:58Well Debo stays cuz he reworked his deal and his get out number is too big
13:03So he's back my yuk is out until probably October and I do think he's in real jeopardy as far as being a Niner again
13:10Because after next season his out number is small enough to where they can just say well we messed up you got hurt
13:18It's over
13:19Jawan is a guy you have to replace unless he you know
13:23It reworks his deal and signs and stays and then the rest of it
13:26You've got Trent Williams at 36 and you've got George Kittle coming up on 30 and McCaffrey who you know with a couple
13:33Achilles flare-ups, you're gonna have to replace a lot of these guys. What was the guarantee at signing for Brandon?
13:40The actual guarantee. Yeah, like like in other words what they had to pay right away. I think it was relatively high
13:46Yeah, it was like 45 million this year. He got a signing bonus
13:50He got a big number this year and then next year he gets a lot and then after that there's almost nothing left
13:54Have we ever seen before a contract and maybe Daniel Jones is the answer to this?
13:59but like a contract with that kind of guarantee get handed out and
14:04Seven weeks later. We're already talking about his departure. Oh
14:08Good Lord, right? What a hot mess
14:11In the hot mess and they got you know
14:14It was peer pressure or whatever they felt that they actually got to the end of it and they realized they had to do it
14:19And they gave him 30 million per trying to win right now
14:22Desperately trying to win right now and I get that but if you were trying to really do that and you were gonna sign him
14:29Anyway, then you should have given him 30 million in March or April and that way he would have been a camp person in Stine
14:36You've mentioned this over and over and I love it because the camp distractions from IU to Trent to McCaffrey to Ricky
14:43Pearsall not his fault
14:44Obviously all of that led you into week one where you you were in an uncertain spot
14:50Well, they I think it's obvious that they couldn't in the preseason games. It felt like they weren't
14:57They couldn't really do anything because they didn't have their players. And so
15:03they didn't get a lot of work done between
15:06you know in the offseason and the preseason because they didn't have McCaffrey Iuke was holding out and they were just kind of
15:13Maintaining it felt like when when practice started, so I don't know
15:17I don't know man, because like all those numbers we played with yesterday
15:20They are still one of the top five to ten performing offenses in the NFL despite all the frustrations
15:27And it is pretty much been without Brandon the entire time
15:31So I go back to one of my rare W's back in August
15:35I looked right at Brandon and said well, we either see you week one or we won't
15:39Bye
15:40Yeah, and you saw him week one. Yep. He was there. Well, that's because they touched it
15:44I'd have said you either play on your play for your 14 million or don't yeah
15:50We have a game in September
15:51Let us know if you're gonna be there and I'll go back to my April take where I said
15:55They should trade him on draft night or before draft night
15:58You trade him and there were teams that wanted him and teams where he would have gone and you know
16:03Not that I foresaw the injury, but you definitely saw a slow start and he had what one good game
16:10So, yeah, could they have really had a Mari Cooper and all those picks?
16:15Maybe right man. I will take him out. No hard. Well Mari went somewhere else
16:20They were willing to help
16:23And it's something it's funny you said something about
16:26Brock or mark said it like you have to decide if Brock Purdy can be the guy to
16:32Basically bridge the gap between now and when you're good again
16:35And it makes me think about Jonathan cominga because the Warriors are faced with the same question
16:40Steph and Draymond are gonna be gone in
16:42Three years, maybe four hopefully longer because we love to see it
16:46But when they're gone, who is that torchbearer and if you think that it's Jonathan cominga
16:51Then you sign Jonathan coming into a five-year deal. It was well
16:55and I don't I used to kind of think that it wasn't and then I thought that he might be
17:00Like a viable piece and the more you look at it the more I'm realizing that if they do things the way they're doing it
17:06Now the way they play basketball. He doesn't fit with the way the Warriors play
17:10So and I kind of think three games
17:14Minutes play right and the more we look at it goo
17:16The Warriors are the Warriors sent a loud message in the offseason about you know
17:21Where they see he and Moses because Moses is a 13 million dollar a year player. He's just that guy
17:28They offered it to him and he was like, you know what? Yeah, that's probably me for now. I might be better later
17:34I might not be he's basically D Anthony
17:3745 or something ridiculous that you're not worth
17:40He might be worth 25
17:42But if you're cominga, you'd rather go out there and show that you're worth 40 as opposed to settling for you're not doing that now
17:49And now you know, will you in this system? I think no, I'm totally with it because I mean
17:54I don't know it with the system and he's not gonna get that that leash, right? Yeah. Well it I told Stiney
18:00I come in today. There was a great win
18:03But I feel like I know all these guys and I can't ignore where everybody's at because everybody's trying to win
18:09But individually they're rats on the table. I'm rooting for cominga and I'm like, okay
18:13You didn't get in the last nine minutes of a close game. They're going 11 12 deep
18:18They didn't break you off the cash and then you got a blowout where you could just put you know up numbers
18:24And you don't get in that one. I'm not saying you so I don't I'm not coming in here to be Debbie Downer
18:29I'm rooting for cominga, but I can't ignore
18:32Him you only got 15 minutes dibs get what are the numbers you found? This is super. Okay
18:39Basketball reference they do three-player combinations. And so you look at the Warriors and three-player combos, right?
18:45I was just looking at the cominga combos just to see and
18:48three of the four most turnover prone combos include Jonathan cominga and
18:54Of the best point scoring combos three-player combos
18:58You have to go down to number eight before you find cominga and in the top eight there are six deaf five Draymond
19:06three buddy healed
19:08GP to a
19:10Kavon a pods a TJD and you get down to number eight and it's cominga
19:15But it's Steph and Dre in cominga
19:18So in other words when he's out there turnovers go up and when he's out there
19:23Points go down and if you know that they know that
19:27You must trade
19:31I think that I really do. I like I like the kid
19:38He's got a lot of game, but I do think that's the word that's on my mind today is fit
19:43And there's no doubt about yes
19:45Steve Kerr has said a number of times this offseason how fast they want to play and I when I watch them
19:51Look at that game yesterday against Atlanta Atlanta has they've got some things that they could do inside
19:57There were a lot of right there were a lot of lob dunks and things like that
20:00But when they would do that, it was like a layup for Wiggins at the other
20:03No, no, the Warriors had 80 something points at halftime or they're playing so fast. I don't think cominga plays very fast
20:11He's the only guy that sometimes stops the ball far is talent raw talent
20:16Of course, I could give you eight teams to where he could go put up 25 and 10
20:20I believe none of them are playing
20:24No doubt but to some Willard and I'm not robbing cominga of this and saying this is what his own is mine
20:30But that's how talented you are in regard to
20:33Individual put up number you could go to Detroit and probably score Portland, but here it's a real Detroit
20:41No, no, they are 79 that team last night is the team where is that he you know what it was and I don't want
20:48Oh, man, I don't want to be too personal and disparage one individual
20:53That's Grant Liffman Wow
21:04Host to vice president
21:10Tells you where your organization is focused a where that was bad pass
21:15Oh, yeah was here when cominga was here
21:18So I'm sure that you know deep down as a VP
21:21He would be covetous of the upside remember when Trey young was gonna be the little Steph Curry
21:26I like I watched that guy try
21:30Like the guy but he is so he's all the Stevie Francis's and
21:37People the history of the league where it's the fun Marbury yeah, go ahead, and you might do highlight
21:43Yeah, 30 points once every two weeks
21:48But what are you doing like what are you doing I think that's the danger you run into when you give a guy the keys
21:56Before and the problem is is it what his second year they went to the Eastern Conference final yeah, I did have and so
22:02Yeah, no, and he has he improved no he has yeah, I think you're right
22:07He's got worse that was a draft night trade. Yeah, you know where Atlanta drafted
22:17They got DeAndre Hunter and
22:19Cam Reddish, oh, yeah, I'm not a cam Reddish is who they got DeAndre Hunter was another draft
22:24Ceiling might be and I don't mean this in terms of style of play because this guy was a great player
22:29But I sort of mean the career arc of what you're talking about
22:32It's starting to give me like Tracy McGrady vibes man where where it's like I was feeling some Kyle Kuzma
22:38Well, maybe a baller in my book, but not a winner
22:41He's gifted at the game of basketball
22:44He's got he could he's got a repertoire. Let me ask you something. What do you think of when I say raw talent?
22:51Jonathan Kaminga, okay, but but give me but but forget the name don't put a person to it
22:57What does raw talent do for you as a basketball team I'm a GM
23:03Right, how we go out and get yours, but you can't do it in the grand scheme of a team
23:10Setting or environment because you don't you haven't learned that or you're not comfortable then I'd say I'm out
23:15You know what it is and raw talent needs to develop into not raw talent. No, it's real
23:21How many years does Jonathan get to be raw and there we go?
23:24Believe it or not the way I sir. I know
23:28Imagine he's a rookie, but that's that's what I like Dalton connect played four years of college now
23:33He's a rookie come make a plate four years in the pros. Okay, but he should he didn't play much
23:37Yeah, so that's the way I would view it. That's a way. That's an interesting
23:39You know what if you do him like that you feel a little better about him. I
23:43Think you do, but do you want to give him 40 large?
23:46Keys to the kingdom right now. That's there was no
23:50Decision has to be made before connect who you know is under team control for four years
23:55Yeah, who may be in a heaven right now?
23:57I think that I think that's a great conversation that you guys continue to continue along with the great warriors
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