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00:07And welcome to PokeTheBear episode 292 presented by PrizePix and GameTime tickets.
00:13My name is Connor Ryan and once again we are joined by the esteemed, the ever knowledgeable,
00:18the three hours ahead of me, Ty Anderson of 98.5 This What's Up. Ty, how are you doing?
00:24I'm doing well. Coming to you live from the 98.5 digital office right now. Did the radio today.
00:33And yeah, we are three hours ahead of you. It's crazy. A lot. You've missed a lot out here in
00:38Boston so far. It's still a day. Yeah, they're still bad. They're not good. Everyone's still
00:45angry about pretty much everything. So. So yeah, so it's been a nice little nice little day here.
00:50Nice little Saturday. Might go to Bed Bath & Beyond. I don't know if I have time. Oh, wow.
00:55Very nice. Yes, it is. It is a nice 75 degrees here. So I'm sorry to twist the knife. As you
01:00can see, the sun behind me looks like I'm kind of like Obi-Wan when he shows up in Hoth. If you want
01:04to see the light illuminated behind me, that is just the sunlight. But I'm doing well. I will
01:10no longer antagonize people who are throwing out their cars or I don't even know what the
01:15weather is in Boston, but I can imagine it's not as pleasant as it is here. So.
01:20Well, I pumped gas and my hand got numb. So it's not great. OK. Yeah, it's not great. So I digress.
01:28Ty, enough talking about the weather. Let's get to more pressing matters, which is the Bruins are
01:33sucking once again. They've lost two in a row. They lose to the Capitals on Tuesday,
01:40a game where they generate a lot of quality looks, actually, especially at five on five play.
01:44Couldn't get that, you know, tying goal past past Thompson with Washington and then started
01:50off really strong against the Rangers, a team that is bad, straight up bad team in free fall,
01:56control play, let the Rangers get back into it. And then Jonathan Quick decides to go sicko mode,
02:02has a couple of great saves. But I think regardless of how quick played or Thompson or anything,
02:07I think you're once again seeing just the lack of finishing ability is what's killing this team
02:13right now. Yeah, it's interesting. You know, you know, the Rangers win that game. It was only
02:20their fourth win in their last 19 games, I believe the worst record in hockey over that span,
02:26which is funny because the Buffalo Sabres lost 13 games in a row, I think, at one point,
02:31and still not as bad as what the Rangers have been like this these last month and a half or so.
02:38Yeah, it's not a great loss. Right. And I think what's especially frustrating about that loss
02:43to the Rangers is that I thought the Bruins started really well. I thought I thought it
02:48was a really good start. I had them down for at least two really good scoring chances and
02:54the Oliver Wallstrom post shot. You don't get anything. And then you get two goals in three
03:00minutes and seven seconds. And then, you know, like we're realists here and we watch the team
03:05and we go, oh, they got to score three goals and win the game. That's that's not easy for them.
03:11Right. And it wasn't. They only they only got one. I think structurally you liked what they did.
03:16Yeah. But you got to score goals to win. And this team, as we know, I mean, they just have to work
03:23so freaking hard for their goals that it's just it's really like there's when the power plays
03:29is as bad as it's been. Right. Like there's really no way like you don't have like an easy
03:34button to score goals. Right. You just you just don't. And I think that for all the problems
03:39that a team like the Rangers have and they have a ton to get me wrong, like they have quick strike
03:45ability, whereas the Bruins, it feels like it's just it's not there consistently enough. It's
03:51there against really bad goaltenders like the like the guy we saw in Columbus last week in Boston.
03:57But like, it's just it's it's really hard for this team to score three goals consistently,
04:02it feels like. Yeah, no. And I think you look at it's another example of this team where I think
04:09you're feeling good about their game and then they take a step backwards. You know, you look at
04:15they win against the Capitals, you know, they beat Columbus, what have you, that crappy loss
04:20in between against Columbus. But, you know, play the Caps on the road and like they lose three
04:27one. Suddenly that two one game for most of it. And like that's one that sucks because they had
04:31a lot of quality changes and couldn't finish. But I thought that was really good team competitive
04:36effort. Caps blocked like friggin like twenty nine shots, like a tough loss to a very good team.
04:43And like I think, yeah, you can take some positives. Sorry, most blocks against the
04:47Bruins this year ties the game against Philly that they lost twenty eight blocks. They were
04:52credited with. So, yeah, to your point, like, yeah, they had to work for it, but still like
04:56that's it's, you know, sorry. Yeah. Yeah. No. And like I think the Bruins had 13 high danger
05:02looks at five and five, which I think was the third highest total. Like again, like that's
05:06when it sucks. You lose sex. You don't get a point out of it. But yeah, I think you can take
05:10some positives out of that's the way they're playing and competing competitive game right
05:15to lose to the Rangers, where that's a team in free fall that you should actually look at what's
05:19ahead on the schedule in January and the not really daunting matchup starting with tonight
05:25against Toronto with Austin Matthews back in the lineup. That's just one where you look at that.
05:30You look at like the two losses to Columbus earlier this year where like the margins are so
05:35slim for this team, whether it's on the ice, whether in the standings, like six points would
05:39go a long way in terms of where this team is at. It's just another example of you feel good about
05:44this team. You feel good. They're heading in the right direction. And like the product has
05:48improved from where it's been in November. Right. Like they're at least getting shots on goal.
05:53They're generating looks. But man, like the inability to kind of get the job done or cash
05:58in on these chances, it's it's frustrating. And it's you know, it sucks because like I thought
06:03Swayman had a pretty good game. You know, the second goal is pretty when you probably like to
06:08have back. But I'm not putting him in a 2-1 game as the guy you lost, you know, the reason why you
06:12lost it. But when you have like mistakes with like Laurie, with like odd man rushes, like you can't
06:18have those, especially if the margin for error you have where you can't make a mistake. And that's
06:23crappy all around, right? Like you've got a team that they can't really take risks. They can't
06:28have any lapses because as you said, when another team goes up to three goals, we're all like,
06:34all right, something's going to have to be pretty wacky in this game for the Bruins to get the
06:38necessary scoring to get going. Because now we're at a point with this team where if they score two
06:42power play goals in a game, it's an outlier, right? Like it's right. The cheat codes, the easy
06:47avenues to offense just have not been there this year. Yeah. And I think, you know, on Swayman,
06:55yeah, not a great start for him. He gives up two goals on the first seven shots he faces,
06:59but then he makes 20 straight saves. And so I think he did his part. And if we're going to
07:05spend the whole year complaining about the goaltender when the offense, you know, is very
07:13formulaic, it's very hit or miss. It's honestly like the way this team rides waves in a negative
07:19way is very unique. Like they give up a goal and the next thing you know, like they don't know how
07:25to play hockey for five minutes and they give another or whatever. And like, yeah, like to
07:29your point about lower eye, like the spot sucks for him because he's a guy that you have to rely
07:35on to create offense because of what we've talked about with their lack of pop up front, it's got
07:40to come from the backend and there's no Hampus at home right now. So it's an aura of low Ryan
07:45Watherspoon, like low rise, the only guy on that side, they're going to ask to create offense
07:51entirely. So when he tries to activate and he tries to make plays happen and it's a two on one
07:55the other way, it's like that sucks. And you want to get that out of his game, but also like he
08:00needs to do that because you don't, you have such little punch up front right now. And so it's,
08:07it's the worst spot to be in, right? Like you're in that. It's like when a quarterback pump fakes
08:12a fourth time and you're like, Nope, Nope. Gotta get rid of the ball, dude. Like it's the same
08:15kind of concept. It's like you're, you're watching it and you're like, you're like,
08:19ah, he can't do that, but he's got to find the right. He's got to still try. He's going to,
08:23he's still going to try to find the Avenue for offense. And that, that part of it is just so
08:27frustrating, I think for the Bruins and you know, he's not alone in that regard. You know, like
08:32you give, they're, they're giving a lot of offensive run to guys to try to get them going,
08:38you know, like Trent Frederick, Oliver Wallstrom, Justin Brazile, like those guys,
08:43like you gotta get them in the offensive zone because you gotta get their game trending in the
08:48right direction, but they're not, they're not producing right now, you know, and, and that
08:52part's frustrating. You know, I hated the third period that we got from Oliver Wallstrom and that
08:58third line, you know, he, he gets over the attacking zone and immediately makes a drop back
09:03pass to nobody. And then there goes possession. It's like, okay, there's that. They had two
09:08sequences with under five minutes left. I want to say, or five and a half minutes left in the game
09:12where they, they gain the zone and immediately lose the puck. And then it's back to tagging up.
09:17It's like, all right. Like, and so they just have such little pop. It feels like below their top
09:23line right now, whatever that top line is, whether it's it's coiled to the right of Lindholm and
09:29Martian or Pasternak to the right of Lindholm and Martian. It's like, it's just, they are so starved.
09:34It feels like offensively on a consistent basis that it's, it's really hard to blame anything
09:39besides the offense right now. Yeah, no, very, very frustrating in terms of the way this team
09:44is going. And I think the number of stagnant players are just outright passengers that are
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11:44friends over at price fix. Ty, I feel like when you look at ways to get this offense going one
11:50thing that has routinely been brought up is we're the young guys. I tweeted something about it after
11:55the Rangers game of it feels like now's the time to bring up some sort of skill, some sort of
12:01scoring punch, some urgency with younger players who want to make us you know earn a spot in the
12:06lineup. We're not getting it on Saturday against Toronto but man it feels like something's got to
12:12give at some point right whether it's Patra, Lysel, Markulov, anyone right because it does feel
12:17like there needs to be some new blood especially further down the lineup to get something going
12:22here. Yeah, first I want to ask you what did you think of Fabian Lysel's debut? I thought it was
12:30pretty promising. I don't know why they didn't play him that much in the third period. I look at
12:35you know again is it going to be perfect with him? No, but I look at what he did on that on you know
12:40the opening goal from Brezzo as an example of like using your speed to beat two guys to the puck and
12:47again I think the knock against Lysel is like oh he's not physical you know he's a guy that's
12:53going to pull up like takes the puck down to the behind the net into high danger ice and it makes
12:59a play down there. If he's skating and using you know using that ability driving to the net
13:04hovering around grade A ice and creating chances I'll take that over as you said Wallstrom skating
13:10doing a drop pass into no man's land you know I'd rather have guys that are playing with that speed
13:14that pace that urgency same with a guy like Padra who's trying to make something happen because like
13:20you know I'm not saying these guys are mailing it in or they're not trying but you're getting way
13:25too many passengers in that part of the lineup and it's it's killing this team in terms of just the
13:29lack of five on five scoring from that part of the the depth chart. Yeah listen it's easy right now
13:35to pick on guys like Trent Frederick and Oliver Wallstrom and I fully acknowledge that but
13:41if you're going to sit here and tell me that they've had two really good games in a row
13:46and I know people online have and and yeah sure because the ceiling is so low with these guys that
13:52like just not getting caved in is like well that's a good game it's like well no it could be better
13:57like and you're struggling to score goals right now you got to do something more than just control
14:01possession you know the other night I don't have the numbers in front of me right now but
14:06the other night they control the shot attempts uh Wallstrom Frederick and Brasso I think it
14:12was 12 to 6 I want to say or 12 to 5 something like that they get out shot on the ice like that
14:18shouldn't happen the pucks got to get on goal guys like you got like you got two guys there
14:23Brasso and Frederick that that are really good at getting to the front of the net so get to the
14:28front of the net bang away get some actual shots on goal and I think that yeah to your point like
14:35I'm all in on seeing the kids I just I want to because I don't think this team
14:40is a true cup contender we talked a little bit about this last week like I just think that you
14:45have to sort of make calls that can accelerate your own franchise's timeline and I know that
14:51Don Sweeney has used the term overbaked before about his prospects and being completely ready
14:56but I mean at a certain point if you have a season and a team that is so obviously flawed
15:02like this Bruins team is and you look at the lineup right now this team still doesn't know
15:08who their second line right wing is they still don't know who their top line left wing is right
15:13now it's Morgan Geeky but we'll see Trent Frederick's playing center right now which
15:18has never been his strongest position in terms of getting the most out of his game
15:22okay so so I see I feel like Dale Doback and Step Brothers or I'm sorry Mr. Doback and Step
15:27Brothers where he's like yes I see a drummer and I see a singer it's like I see a center prospect
15:31a left winger and a right winger it's like what are we doing here and if these guys are not in
15:36your future plans and I'm talking about your NHL roster Frederick's a pending UFA Geeky's a pending
15:42RFA Wallstrom is a waiver pickup who is a pending RFA then get them out of here and bring in guys
15:48that we think can be part of the future I just I feel like that's where this team has to be right
15:53now that we are not we are no longer in the one more for Bergeron one more for for Char one more
15:59for Crecce era we are in a transitional phase I think you know watching and observing this Bruins
16:05team and I feel like the Bruins are the ones that are denying that right now but it's clear as day
16:09in front of our faces that we are watching a transitional phase so embrace it develop guys
16:15get them some real minutes to your point about Lysel I hated last week they're up four nothing
16:21why isn't he playing in the third period let him play that that is the perfect time to get him some
16:26run here and and and if he fails and if they give up a goal okay you still got three more goals of
16:32a cushion there like that's a perfect time to get him some minutes and so when it comes to the call
16:38up itself I'm curious what you think about this like because I asked Bob Beers about this on the
16:41radio this morning why him was this as simple as his family was in town so it's rewarding him
16:50letting them see an NHL game or was it potentially a trade maybe somebody likes him and wants to see
16:57him in the NHL and is that a possibility as well with a guy like Lysel yeah I mean I can't tell
17:04you as to why it was just one game like and would suck if it is just not suck in terms of like oh
17:10man like they only did it for me I'm glad his family was in town was able to see it but like
17:14there's also more priorities than just that like maybe because he's a really talented prospect that
17:18you haven't given a run-up at the NHL level and I agree like we'll talk about this more later on
17:23like where our stances on this team for this season but if this is a year where it ends up
17:29being like either miss the playoffs outright which would suck or you're one and done and get you know
17:35punched in the mouth by the capitals or the panthers in the first round if you're a wildcard
17:39team you know something like that if you're having one of these years where there's not a whole lot of
17:44immediate positive to build off of why not find some sort of clarity like that's what I always
17:49mention when I talk about every year when we get to September of guys that are gonna make a push
17:54for the roster of like why the Bruins need to see what you have in these guys why not figure out
17:58like now like at this point by the end of the year whether Lysel is a guy worth keeping or whether
18:04he's spare parts and you can trade him as part of a package or something why don't you figure out
18:09like what you're gonna do with Frederick now and whether he's a guy you keep or you move on from
18:14Potra had a rough start to the year as expected coming off of major shoulder surgery
18:19something to put on some weight playing on a high level down in Providence is he a guy that
18:23going into next year we see how he plays down the stretch of this season and we're like this could
18:27be a guy that is a 2c in due time and we can project that out of the way he's playing we don't
18:32know because he's lighting up down in Providence getting cross-checked in the back like let's see
18:36it up here like and again the same thing like why not call up a guy like Potra I think Potra is
18:41probably the safer example of all these guys to call up why not call him up where he's a guy that
18:47has poise with the puck makes plays can separate from guys and if you put him with like Brezo and
18:53Frederick and be like hey guys just go to the net front and like Potra's gonna find you if that gets
18:58Potra going if it leads to scoring if it gets Frederick going and either you get him at least
19:03pulling on the rope or you bump up his trade value like feels like a win-win that's why it's so
19:08puzzling as to both in terms of the immediate short term of getting production getting you know
19:13your team's uh shit in order this year plus figure out what you have for the future it's why it's
19:19puzzling that just hasn't happened yet when it's you're getting the same old song and dance the
19:24current roster you have as it's frustrating yeah I mean if you're going to devote significant
19:29resources and minutes to guys that are not here beyond this season like that's just malpractice
19:36as an organization especially you know we're going to do the same song and dance
19:40barring them you know not being traded or deciding that they don't want to play in North America
19:46anymore or in your organization anymore in the case of a guy like Merkulov who could go
19:51to the KHL you know he's from there obviously and I know there are teams over there that are
19:58would like to bring him bring him in like it's just a waste of time that if we're gonna if we're
20:04gonna let this season fall by the wayside a team where they're obviously like I said they're
20:08obviously flawed and they have ample opportunity and potential to get these guys minutes if you're
20:14not gonna do that and then in the summertime you're gonna go well we're expecting a push
20:18from them it's like no it's stop stop with this nonsense like like like it'd be it'd be great if
20:24they could go from you know not have to go from zero to 60 if he can get them up to 20 30 40 and
20:30then go to 60 it's just easier I just that part is frustrating to me because I I do think like
20:36you're in the entertainment business and prospects in future hope and all optimism
20:44that's entertaining watching that is entertaining and if you're if you're devoting again devoting
20:50resources this was a problem the Bruins made in the early years under Don Sweeney they they were
20:56not they were bringing in these kind of like patchwork veteran guys or tweeners that you knew
21:02weren't gonna be here for the long haul and then the fans like I don't really care about this
21:07because I know that this isn't what what we're aiming for right I just like that part's frustrating
21:14and and I think like you know it's one game I understand that he played 12 and a half minutes
21:20when they announced Fabian Lysel like it got a pop from the crowd I think this I think this this
21:26this fan base is dying for some electricity and the guys that we're talking about they have it
21:33they they might not be perfect they might not play a 200 foot game but I think that that's something
21:39that they have to consider as well the entertainment of your product and developing that and giving
21:44fans something to kind of latch on to and say this is our future we're ranked 31st and 30th
21:50and all these prospect rankings but look at this kid he's actually pretty good I like what we have
21:54here like you got to give him something like that I think at a certain point yeah without a doubt
21:59no I think something's got to give there um and a few Bruins fans want to eventually catch Fabian
22:05Lysel and Matt Botcher at a game I don't know if it's gonna be this year it might be with another
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24:34for a little over 1.5 million dollars i think you look at uh this team and guys who have underachieved
24:40i wouldn't put mark kaselik in that category he's produced he's playing with a lot of pace
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24:54you want to build around pretty good deal for the bruins and for mark kaselik to get the get some
24:58security here with his new team yeah i i i love this i love this deal for the bruins um 1.5 and
25:06change um if the cap rises the way that we think it's going to rise it's at its height going to
25:12account for about one and a half percent less actually uh of the cap ceiling of the salary cap
25:18um ceiling so that that's always a good move like that's not a big deal where you get bogged down
25:23is when you're paying five million for third liners like that's that's the true sort of uh
25:29doomsday there i think for for you know for teams that are looking for help and i think what i like
25:35about kaselik is that you mentioned at the pace the energy the effort is never in question a guy
25:41who brings it every night um and i don't know if it's just because like he's got a like a beard
25:48he's only 25 i thought he was like 29 for some reason you know like like he's a young dude and
25:53so you're buying in at a pretty pretty good age in terms of getting his best right like being 25
25:59years old he's already matched his career high in points uh in about 30 fewer games uh this year
26:05and so there's some more to be discovered there but you know what you're getting right you know
26:10you're getting a guy who could win some face-offs a guy who hits who can fight um and really i think
26:16it's become sort of the motor of that four fine which i would argue connor they have been looking
26:21for since sean corrale left like since sean corrale left like they haven't had that guy
26:27who it's like you know what you're getting every night he's got wheels he's got you can hit you can
26:32even pop in a few bodies like like like he's kind of i think taking up that that that role and it's
26:39one the bruins have tried filling for a long time like think about they got garnett hathaway and he
26:45just wasn't garnett hathaway here for whatever reason like it was for some weird reason he just
26:51the bruins he's just extra angry it makes no sense i think they told him not to be and that's
26:55why he's extra angry now he's like let me be me i'm a i'm a dick let me be me yes um they brought
27:02in pat maroon um they brought in aj grier like like they have tried to kind of get like that
27:09okay who's like a guy who can hit who can skate well and can change the game drop the hat right
27:15like and i think cast like they found one and good on them for identifying that guy a the trade
27:21talks and be enough to say we got to re-sign him now before the summer where he could make
27:27two and a half million if you keep scoring like this like the way the cap is going like you're
27:32gonna see some fourth line guys that are of his ilk probably make good money and so i think i
27:37think being proactive with him it's it's a good move so i i liked it from that regard from that
27:42standpoint yeah no i agree uh especially when you look at i think what his value could be you
27:48kind of hit on it um if you hit on the market like that's a guy you look at his size i'm sure you can
27:53look at his underlying numbers of like his skating ability his production which has been solid and
27:58like you know a team i was gonna be like oh this guy is tired to lead penalty minutes like this is
28:02what we need like that's a guy that would i think easily get over two million per year um if he hit
28:07free agency so good move for the Bruins in a year where there's not been a lot of positives
28:12especially with guys um you know newcomers guys fitting in and driving play um a step in the right
28:18direction not someone to not a foundational piece but a guy that i think you can plug in the next
28:24three years and be happy with what you get out of him night in and night out which can go a long way
28:28on a fourth line so good move for the Bruins good for Castle Lake to get the bag um Ty before we
28:34wrap this up uh looking just real real quick sorry i want to ask you i want to ask you about
28:39this like so Trent Frederick well what would we say that his ufa value would be on a market
28:47like would you say like like like four million would you say or yeah i would say probably four
28:54right now like it probably was gonna be higher going i would thought he's gonna get like five
28:58also i think teams covet so much of how unique his skill set is and i every team going going
29:03into this year could be like oh this guy can plot 20 goals for us and be a pain in the ass
29:08and be physical and like they look at the underlying numbers like his defensive numbers
29:12before this year were great like he was on a lot of shutdown groups like not flashy
29:16but he had that also i think knack of like making the smart simple plays that i think you said this
29:21like Frederick when he's with other players before always made his line mates better has not been the
29:26case this year but he's a guy whose value also i think isn't just tied into the the hope of being
29:32a 15 20 goal scorer or the physicality like he's got underlying things and a lot of teams really
29:37covet so i think going into this year i was going to be like something's going to give him like five
29:41million on the open market i don't see that being the case now but i also don't think he's playing
29:45himself into a two and a half million dollar deal at least i think there's still some team that
29:50looks at that skill set and it's like we can fix him right no exactly and and so why i asked that
29:56is because he's making 2.3 right now i think four million thereabouts is kind of where he is maybe
30:033.75 so if you have castle like at 1.5 and you have a pending ufa and justin brazzo could you
30:12in theory replace the aggregate or replace frederick in the aggregate with brazzo and
30:19and um and castle like i like i wonder if that's kind of their thinking here so maybe internally
30:24now that caslick has been re-signed for 1.5 do they look at brazzo and go if we can ink him
30:31at 1.75 or 1.5 maybe even two okay now we got two guys for three and a half million dollars or
30:39they're maybe even less right like why do we got to keep this guy at four million like i know he's
30:44the first round pick like so i wonder if there's like an order of operations here because i do
30:50find it telling connor that in october don sweeney told us yeah we're talking with trent frederick
30:55okay well it's now january and there's no deal in place and if we follow the trends here he said
31:02this about jake debrusk last year didn't happen he said it about tory krug back in 2019 and 20
31:09whatever that was didn't happen like so is is there an element here of them saying okay we've
31:15taken care of the fighting and the center okay if we can ink the guy that scores his goals on the
31:21net front like we we've replaced frederick we don't need to pay him because we've replaced him
31:25right now yeah no i agree i think that is something you have to view as being and it's a as you said
31:31earlier in terms of where you run into cap issues it's when you give guys in your bottom six year
31:37your third line guys four million five million plus and if all of a sudden you do have caslick
31:42you can lock in for the next three years at his money which is great and a guy like brazo who's
31:47like not perfect but like can conceivably be a 15 20 goal guy if he's put in the right spot like
31:54you see what he can do out there it's kind of like uh kind of like nick richie right like where if
31:59that guy can get those kind of goals like i noticed kind of brazo more than i noticed uh richie when
32:05he was here and like richie was not going to cost you 175 to like brazo is is going to i imagine
32:12would be on his new deal and like again he's not a complete player the skating is still
32:17not there but you see the production you see how good he's around the net front like the passing
32:22recovering pucks like he can be a useful player especially at that price point so i can't see if
32:28it'd be the case where if those are two guys that you sign that are part of your mix further down
32:32the lineup like that's the thing it's like brazo top six not a fan of that i don't think that's
32:37ideal but if he can be a guy that if he's with a potter or someone like that um and he just does
32:43his job he's going to turn a lot of high danger looks he's going to turn a lot of quality chances
32:48and he might be a guy that year in a year out like his best years are like 21 goals and like 15
32:55assists that's totally fine they'll take the 21 goals especially on a team like this that cannot
32:59score so i wouldn't hate that if that's kind of your pivot you either letting him walk frederick
33:04or you're moving him for something because i still feel like a team can look at it even now
33:10and be like now we could use this guy you know the value is probably not going to be what it was
33:13going into this year but i think he still could be a pretty valuable trade ship whether it's
33:18draft capital whether it's swapping him and something else for a more offensive forward
33:23kind of a player or something like that um i i do think that feels like something's got to give
33:28there with a guy like frederick and so i i think that this is worth noting and obviously you
33:35mentioned it the role is different right justin brazo has played a lot uh of top six minutes this
33:41season but if we go back to february 19th 2024 that was the day that uh brazo made his nhl debut
33:5057 games 14 goals 24 points uh over that same span
33:57trend frederick 67 games played so 10 more games played 8 goals 20 points
34:04minus 17 by the way uh trend frederick is over that span and we can point to there's two stat
34:11there's a stat here that's telling it's it's the fact that that brazo is shooting 15.6 percent
34:17whereas frederick is shooting eight percent um however frederick brazo is always going to have a
34:24high shooting percentage because he scored he shoots from the front of the net like that's
34:29where he gets the majority of his chances so i feel like he's going to have a higher percentage
34:33kind of naturally but keep in mind too that that over the same span again frederick is averaging
34:3970 plus more seconds of time on ice per game than brazo so it's it's you look at that and you go
34:48okay if they're close in age but one guy's more productive since making the show it's kind of hard
34:54to say okay i don't want to pay that guy but i definitely want to pay this guy top dollar even
34:57though he's been outperformed by the cheaper option over that same span so it's really hard
35:03because because i think this podcast and and and i don't want to speak for you entirely but i think
35:09we're largely pro trend frederick we've seen his best we've seen the way he can impact the game
35:15you mentioned the defensive metrics he's made lines better he's been bad now for i would say
35:21the second half of the year last year and all of this year he's just he hasn't been good enough
35:25and he hasn't taken that next step and if he is plateauing here so high and and you know what i
35:33wonder connor deep down i wonder if they haven't scratched him because they don't want to torpedo
35:37his potential to hurt the value i i think that goes a long way right of like that's like kind
35:42of the shot across the bow or every all of a sudden you know i'm sure you know gm's got like
35:46a big whiteboard of all their guys they're looking at and like when someone gets healthy scratched
35:51or something to go what the hell's going on there like we didn't we haven't checked in on that guy
35:55in months like we just know he's a good player that has a skill set we like kind of like writer
35:59right where like writers like have an undwelling year it gets healthy scratch like oh what the
36:03hell's going on over there same thing with frederick it's like frederick yeah you scratch
36:07him all sudden you know other gms put on their glasses you go oh god he hasn't scored in 12
36:12games oh god he thought that was nine games like oh holy what's going on here and so i do think that
36:17has to be part of it right where i think you look at guys that could be trade chips for this team
36:23whether it's moving them for draft capital again like swapping him for a player that can maybe give
36:29you more offense at the the risk of not being as physical what have you like we don't dive into you
36:34know trade candidates or whatever but i think we look at a guy that the prunes could move on from
36:39that aren't of you know a key piece of this current team uh or a guy that um isn't maybe part
36:46of the long-term plans looking at the contract situation yeah i can see that i think that's
36:51the biggest reason why he hasn't been scratched yet is they don't want to put that label on him
36:56as being guy that is just not doing nearly enough that is going to be sitting on a game even though
37:00honestly there's been quite a few games from like how is he not the guy that's the odd man out but
37:04i think that's got to be the main reason why yeah i mean it's just it makes a lot of sense
37:10at this point like and and i understand wanting to let him play through it and try to get him
37:15going because we've seen it before like when he can get going he can be kind of afraid train
37:19it's just there's nothing right now that that he's doing that makes you feel confident that
37:25it's going to happen and and you know he's he talked this week before they left town talking
37:29about the trade rumors and stuff basically saying like he's not worried about it and he's not
37:34thinking about his contract and all that but like at a certain point it it you do think about it
37:39you are like everyone does yeah i mean how could you not right like listen i've had a contract
37:45once in my life and when it was the final two months of that contract i was panicked i was like
37:51are they gonna keep me or am i getting what like what's happening here so you know that was a very
37:56low stakes kind of contract in my opinion i mean it was my career so but you feel the you feel the
38:01pressure i don't i don't think it's i think it's impossible not to especially you're not playing
38:06well um but i do think that he is the most curious case that the bruins have right now like you know
38:12we we're going to talk about buying and selling and what they can and can't do but like i think
38:16he is is the he's the the central sort of piece to all of that in my opinion and and right now
38:24it's just like i don't know what direction they go in i have i have absolutely no idea where they go
38:28with him right now yeah we will see how it uh pans out for trent frederick and the bruins
38:33definitely something that couldn't tell you what exactly is going to be the case once we get to
38:37early march and the trade deadline goes down uh ty before we let you go where can we read your
38:42stuff where can we hear you on the airwaves all that good stuff yeah so you can uh you can hear
38:47me on 985 sports hub every saturday morning on the hockey show 9 to 11 a.m uh today's show was
38:53great we had a lot of callers um i had a i had to play hurt i had to play a little play a little
38:58under the weather not a good night's sleep voice a little scratchy nose a little stuffy but you
39:03got to play through take some smelling salts good good to go um so yes you can hear me there on
39:08their website too 985 sports hub.com um you can also find me on social media at underscore ty
39:14anderson also on blue sky uh ty dash anderson i gotta get better about using that i'm sorry that
39:20i'm not good at it i'm trying social media is a nightmare for me so you can find me on there how
39:25about yourself yes you can read my stuff over at boston.com the boston globe we have covered every
39:30step of the way this brewing season with recaps speeches columns breakdowns all that good stuff
39:35you can also find me on twitter x whatever it's called at connor ryan underscore 93 this was
39:41episode 292 of poke the bear you fans have a great rest of your week