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00:00Pucks with Hags is brought to you by Price Picks and the Game Time app.
00:04Welcome to another edition of the Pucks with Hags podcast powered by Price Picks,
00:08the exclusive daily fantasy partner of the CLNS Media Network. I believe this is the 129th
00:14episode of the Pucks with Hags podcast. Thanks for listening. I have with me today
00:17friend and colleague Mick Colaggio. Mick, please tell everybody where they can find your work,
00:21my friend. Rinkwrap, my blog, I link to it on X and Facebook, and I'm into hockey news,
00:28seasonal issues. Those are big stuff. Absolutely. Go check those out. I am your host,
00:35Joe Hagerty. You can find my work at joehagerty.substack.com. Subscribe for a premium
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01:33Download Game Time today. What time is it, Mick? It's Game Time decision, and why? Because it's
01:39Game Time. Game Time. That's right, Mick. All right, let's get into it, my friend. Let's start
01:45with the game last night, and I believe not televised, not on the radio. I did not watch any
01:49of it. I could not find any. Oh, no, because they put it on BostonBruins.com. Did you watch it?
01:54I found this out at the last second and watched it. Oh, you did watch it. Good. I did not watch
01:58it last night. I did not know it was going to be on BostonBruins.com. Me neither. It took like
02:02one second. Some of the stuff, I swear they must figure it out like 10 seconds before the puck
02:08drops. Yeah, right at the second where the puck is dropping. They're like, all right, here it is. We
02:12got it. But I didn't. I mean, admittedly, my kids had photo days at their hockey practices last
02:18night, so there was a lot going on in the house. Oh, yeah. So I was doing that as well. But like,
02:25honestly, I had a feeling it was not going to be one of those games that you needed to see.
02:29Even though the venue is cool, like any game in Quebec City is great. Patrice Bergeron went up
02:34there with the team as kind of an ambassador for Quebec City, which I think is awesome, too. Like
02:38the whole thing, the whole idea behind going to Quebec City and playing a game at Videotron
02:43against another team preseason, I am fully in favor of, and I'm sure it was a big event
02:48up there. But, you know, not much to write home about as far as the action goes. I think L.A.
02:53dominated the game for the most part. It won four to one. Patrick Brown, I believe, scored the only
02:58goal for the Bruins. A beauty. Was it a beauty? It was it was so non-Patrick Brown goal I've ever
03:05seen. That's good. Zdorov gave him a beautiful head, man. He split the defense, went right through,
03:11bang, top corner. It was just gorgeous. Gorgeous. And it was it was like 1975 Buffalo Sabres.
03:18And ironically, Patrick Brown, the guy who is like the ultimate grinder, the Chris Wagner
03:25of this current group. But I but I like to see that because Chris Brown is a guy that I think
03:29brings a lot of value to the table and things that you might not. Patrick, I'm sorry. Patrick
03:34Brown. I scared you wrong. That's OK. Patrick Brown is a guy that you might not. You know,
03:39there's nothing sexy about his game, but there's a lot of things that he brings value to the table
03:43with a lot of the sort of detailed small parts of the game that he does and the hard the work
03:48ethic, the leadership like he's a great leader in the H.L. I'm a Riley Duran talking about
03:52like what a treat it was to sit next to Patrick Brown on the bench and play in a line with him
03:56and how much he learned, like kind of plays a crash Davis role a little bit for the Providence
04:00Bruins with the young guys when they come in, which is invaluable as well. So it's great to
04:04see him get on the score sheet and score a nice goal. Any anything else, any other impressions
04:09from the game, any things you took from just watching that game last night? I came away with
04:15a real sense that the Bruins are going to have a hard time generating offense with this team.
04:22Yeah. Without everybody in the lineup and everybody playing well. Yep. I have a hard time.
04:29L.A. was not magical, but just a good solid defensive team effort and the Bruins had a
04:37hard time generating stuff. It just was like, I know they're not a short volume team under Jim
04:42Montgomery, but it wasn't as though they were moving the puck well out of their zone. Yeah.
04:50But going through the middle and maintaining anything going into Los Angeles zone or
04:56recovering pucks, that will, that part of the game was not happening. So I really felt like
05:05the Bruins have a lot of work to do in order to be viable and it won't matter who's in net for them.
05:10If they can't recover some dumps and if they can't carry him with possession,
05:15there's a lot of offsides. There's a lot of misconnects, disconnects.
05:20Well, they also like, let's also admit, right. They didn't bring their A team last night. They
05:24had some good players in there, but I wouldn't say they brought. No, it wasn't the NHL game we
05:29saw the other night in Boston. It wasn't quite that. But what it tells me is, is that anything
05:34short of that, which makes me think in a regular season, when it wraps up one injury. Yeah. And
05:41I'm wondering how are they going to do? Because I don't see any kind of next man up right now with
05:48this team. I don't see any kind of like ability to mitigate losses. I feel like the whole team
05:55needs to be there and they need to be going in order for it. Now, maybe all hell breaks loose
06:00when that happens. We'll see. But, but anything less than a hundred percent attendance and
06:08accounting and, and, and right now just a good defensive effort by opponent. And, and, and I,
06:16I don't like what I'm, what I saw last night. I did. It was like, Oh boy, this could be,
06:21this could be like 2009, 10 kind of rough, rough patch kind of land for them.
06:25Yeah. Well, I mean, some of that is an indictment on a Fabian Lysell,
06:30Mark Love, like Lysell was back last night and played. I'm assuming it was mostly a forgettable
06:34night for him as well. I think so. I didn't, I didn't see a guy who I saw a guy who was trying
06:40to play his game. And, and really I didn't see a great amount of evidence that he was trying to
06:47build his game as much as that he was trying to just succeed at his game and his game as a ceiling
06:53to it. And this at this level, and this isn't even the priest, the regular season yet. If Lysell
06:59scored Patrick Brown's goal last night, Twitter would be a blaze and everybody would be telling
07:07Don Sweeney how ashamed he should be that he hasn't already given this guy a platinum stick,
07:12you know, and, you know, in front of the fans. I mean, it's, it's unbelievable how much they're
07:17ready to drive Swayman to the airport, but, but, but Lysell, they give it so much rope to,
07:22and it hasn't done jack crap. You know, I mean, I mean, there's gotta be some reality here at
07:27some point. Well, there's, I mean, there's a reason why they were, all those guys were sent
07:32down as quickly as they were. That was a message that I think there was no
07:35mistaking that that was a message as much as they say, yeah, Providence camp was starting.
07:40We want them to get work down there. They'll maybe they'll be up again, blah, blah, blah.
07:44I don't care. Like if they were really, really playing well, they would have stayed. They
07:48wouldn't have sent them down. I think everybody getting sent down as early as they did on mass
07:53to the Providence camp was like, none of you guys were really good enough to force our hand and to
07:58really take somebody's job and take a decision away. And it goes back to the soliloquy that
08:04Brad Marchand had when I asked him about like some of those guys looking pretty good in preseason
08:09and immediately went into the pretty good, not good enough, like not even close.
08:12Like, and you could tell at that point, the players, the management, everybody was disappointed
08:18in what they had brought to the table and camp. And like, you know, as much as I hate to say it,
08:22Mick, it's more of the same from Fabian Lysell. Like at points, Don Sweeney has talked about
08:28like, uh, or referenced really good camps that Lysell has had are good starts to camp that
08:33I was like, when did this happen? Like, as far as I'm concerned, he's never really impressed me
08:38that much in any training camp setting. He's never really pushed that hard for a job. I think more
08:44often than not, he's been kind of a disappointment when you watch him in these training camps where
08:48he can't really get noticed and he can't really push for anything. And he, and frankly, what
08:55sometimes when you see him on the ice, it doesn't even seem like he really wants it that much.
08:58Like you don't even see the sort of effort level or anything flash there. It's just like, what,
09:03what, you know, where is the, what's the, what's the, what's the talk about this guy? You know,
09:08why is there so much excitement about it? And I know he does it in Providence and I've seen him
09:13do it in Providence. I just not have seen, I've not seen him do that nearly enough in a setting
09:18with NHL guys around to get me excited about what he might bring to the table. Like, and until that
09:23changes, like I'm, I wouldn't even consider him like a legit factor to let, as you said,
09:29if a guy gets injured and you need to bring somebody up from Providence that, you know,
09:32somebody that could come in and give you a little, a jump or a little energy. Like he doesn't look
09:36like that guy at all. At least Merkulov, I think showed that he could be confident, competent at
09:41the NHL level. And it seemed like he was making some plays when he was up there. Like you've got
09:45a little confidence that you might be able to do something. And his game's a lot more
09:48rounded out and accomplished. He's a little older and he's, and he's got a lot more polish
09:54and acumen and his overall game. Lysell's more of a project at this stage and he still is,
10:00even though there's substantial improvement. Last year was better than the year before by a long
10:05shot. This year, he already looks like that this could be a plus year for him, another step of
10:11progress for him, but it's not NHL progress. Maybe in season, maybe down the road, maybe after
10:18a chunk of weeks or months, I don't know how much it's going to take. You never know when a player
10:24is going to figure that out. I do see with him that he has an ability to gain separation in the
10:32American league that he does not have in the NHL. In the NHL, the game goes fast and it's only going
10:39to go faster. Like Monty said last season, early at this time, every 10 games, the league gets a
10:45little faster. If Lysell can't gain separation in the preseason, what's it going to be like for him?
10:52Oh, if you put him with, if you got to play with some talent, you know what, just show me in the
10:59increments of what the situations you have in a preseason game, which is a hybrid of National
11:06League and American League, that you can gain separation because if you're not going to play
11:12through people, you better be able to show me you can play around them. Right now, I'm not
11:17seeing enough of either to tell me that he's made any kind of impression that warrants consideration
11:24for his varsity spot off the hop. That's probably going to happen because he steadily performs in
11:32Providence, like if he does, like he did last year, and he can sort of turn the page on a
11:37disappointing training camp quickly and just focus on doing the right things at the AHL and playing
11:42well. I'll tell you, and from my end of it, I know it's a hype machine. I don't consider this
11:46a failure for him. I'm kind of more encouraged by him right now than I was a year ago at this time.
11:50Yeah. What I need to see is he probably needs another year in the American league, at least,
11:56and maybe at the end or the end of that year, we will have seen enough that maybe warrants another
12:02look. Maybe it happens sooner than that. I don't know. But so far, I'm not seeing him getting to
12:10the level that he needs to be at in order to really be viable here. No, I agree. Not yet. I
12:16agree. And maybe that happens at some point. If he plays well enough in Providence, he'll sort of
12:22put up enough body of work where an opportunity arises in the NHL level, he'll get a shot.
12:29And I hope he does well with it. I think the talent is there, even though I don't think
12:34everything is coming together for him right now. On paper, he's one of the few guys that I think
12:41if they did get injuries in their top six or they did have a need for a top six guy, he's one of the
12:45few guys, I think, with the talent to be able to do it if everything else is there. But it remains
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14:45Mick, after the last few preseason games. Anything else you're thinking as far as the roster goes,
14:49as far as battles for positions? Last show, I had Steve Conroy and Mark Diveron and we talked a
14:57little bit about Patra and Tyler Johnson and how they seem to be sort of like, you know, vying for
15:02the same spot. I think they're both going to make the NHL team, but it's a matter of like who's
15:06going to be in the, you know, the 12 on a nightly basis and play. But it seems to me, though, both
15:12those guys may end up making the NHL roster and, you know, they've had good camps. Yeah, I don't,
15:18I see Tyler Johnson as a guy they're going to have around, move around. Yep. Plug him here,
15:24plug him there, little power play here, little third line right wing there, maybe second line
15:29right wing there. Situational stuff gives Monty an option to take a lot of looks as we go into the
15:35real hockey that matters. Patra, I see much more in a narrow vein, even though he wanted to take a
15:42look at him at wing, that's what the preseason's for. I think from the get-go, it's the same as
15:47what they used to say about Stanicka, that he's a sentiment and that's what he is. If he's not
15:57going to be 3C in Boston, he's going to be 1C in Providence. Right. So, and that's because that's
16:03what he needs in order to meet the Bruins' needs. If he can't be the 3C on a regular basis,
16:10I think the best place for him is to be the 1C in Providence. And that's, and that's, and I think
16:15that's, I'd be pretty surprised if they were looking at it any other way where it concerns
16:19Patra. And right now, I'm leaning toward give him a chance to play 3C in Boston. He's, he earned it
16:24last year. He performed okay. He, he had some growing pains. He got hurt. I don't think the
16:32injury. I think he's been very good. He clearly, he's at another level than those other young guys
16:37we just talked about. Absolutely. Absolutely. In fact, in fact, some of the, some of the
16:42instinct that he's shown at knowing how to close off a player who's trying to rub the puck around
16:48the boards and zone in and cut them off at the half wall and just put the body in front of them
16:53and take over the puck and look up, make a play, make the right play. Just all of that little stuff
16:58right now is really there for him in a way that it's not for a lot of other guys. And so I'm
17:05looking at him and saying, you know what, let's plug this and play it and see how it is. And if
17:1010 games in, it's like, he looks a little overwhelmed or he's not quite back. Then you
17:15gotta have a discussion, you know, and then talk about what do we do. But right now he's my 3C.
17:22Yeah. And the nice thing about Tyler Johnson is he's a veteran guy where like, if he ends up your
17:2713th forward a little bit, that's perfectly fine. He can be, he can deal with that. He's a veteran
17:32guy. He will know how to be ready to play. If he sits for a couple of games, you don't want the
17:35young guy in that position. But I think Tyler Johnson, you feel more comfortable about being
17:40in that position. Absolutely. And I know in overall dynamics, it's his presence this year is
17:45Shattenkirkian. Yes. Yeah. And I think, yeah, leadership wise, the way he plays, like all that
17:51stuff, I think he'll be really good for the team. I do think, and I mentioned this in the last
17:56podcast, it could go the same way as Danton Heinen though, where with Jeremy Swainman up in the air
18:02until they've got resolution there, you're probably not going to sign Tyler Johnson to a contract.
18:07Danton Heinen did not sign his contract with the Bruins until October 30th last year. I think it
18:11was like eight or nine games into the season. So something like that may develop with Tyler
18:15Johnson as well, where it takes a little while to get, you know, him on the roster and to get
18:19things situated, but that's okay. I think he, and I think Mark had mentioned this, I think the
18:24Bruins would have cut him loose by now if they didn't have intentions of keeping him. Other guys
18:29around the league have already been cut loose in the same, you know, PTO situation. Right. So I
18:34think he factors into their plans and rightfully so. I think he's had a really good training camp
18:37and he's shown that he can still play. He's still got game at 35 years old. So that was a good,
18:42that was a good get for the Bruins, getting him on a tryout because I think he's going to be a
18:45useful player for them just like Heinen was last year. And they've started to show Don Sweeney,
18:50the Bruins, NHL scouting staff. Like I think they've shown just as they've shown, they can
18:56find diamonds in the rough, the HL level that maybe aren't being valued in their organizations
19:00and bring them here and get more out of them. They know how to make, they know how to make the
19:06right calls with the guys they bring in on training camp invites. They know guys that are going to be
19:10good fits. They know guys that are still going to play. They do a really good job of bringing
19:13people in that are going to bring good value and do it while making $750,000 a year that's
19:18really going to help your salary cap picture. Absolutely. They're great at that. And they
19:22have been and they continue to be. I think, sort of note, now that Jones finally played last night
19:29and he showed the rust, but he was out there slashing around and really trying,
19:34which was nice to see. So trying to figure out, I would assume we're going to see Jones,
19:41uh, what do we got one left? Washington? Yeah. One left. Yeah. Okay. So we definitely got to
19:47see Jones again because they got him in last night. He played hard. It didn't look very good.
19:52It was a little sloppy and messy, but he really looked like he was eager to really put himself
19:58out there and not worry about how he looked and give him another game and then sort out your
20:05Kepke, your Tufte, your Jones. You know what Kastelik is. We know what's going to happen
20:10there with him and Beecher. I like Kastelik a lot. And I think Bruins fans can already tell
20:15they're going to love him. Like he is just involved. He's been terrific. And so in his
20:21role, he's outstanding and almost so good that you wonder if they should kick him up a little bit.
20:26You know, the only problem with that is what do you do? How does it affect the rest of your roster
20:32if you do that? But you got to get ugly. You're going to score some ugly goals. And if he's your
20:37best option, I won't be too shocked if I see him get kicked up because you can put Beecher where
20:44he is. Yeah. And Beecher's looked better, I think, this year. He's shown some development where I
20:48think parts of his game are getting better after a year of NHL experience under his belt last year.
20:53So that might be a possibility as well. And then maybe Riley Duran gets a shot or a look at some
20:59point, depending on because he was in that big cut. Yep. All right. Let's move on. Let's move on
21:05to the big topic here, Mick. Jeremy Swayman continues to the news continues to come forth
21:12and develop here. The latest was some of Jeremy Swayman's thoughts on that were recorded on the
21:20Amazon Faceoff docuseries, which I've been invited by the NHL to check that I'll get a
21:26sneak preview of it a week or two ago. I was not able to do that. I know some other people were.
21:31And I've heard nothing but good things about this Amazon Faceoff series. It's supposed to be like
21:36sort of a kind of similar to 24-7 was on HBO. So it's like all access, you know, like the real
21:43stuff, the real coaches talking to the players, like real like raw kind of like life in the NHL
21:50stuff, which seems awesome. And I think fans are going to eat it up. But this quote, I don't know
21:55if it was sent by somebody. I know I saw it on Bleacher Report. I don't know if it was like a
21:58sneak preview of what he's going to say, but according on Jeremy Swayman on the Amazon docuseries
22:05said hearing what hearing you're not worthy of what you think you're worthy of. That was hard to hear
22:09talking about the arbitration process last year. You don't forget what was said. I wrote them down
22:13and I looked at them the other day and I had a couple check marks. My biggest knock was how I
22:17wasn't trustworthy in the playoffs check. And there's also a report yesterday. I think Pierre
22:25Lebrun was on TSN talking about the negotiations and saying he still thinks like something's going
22:30to get done between the Bruins and Jeremy Swayman that they're not that far apart as far as money
22:35in term and like frankly, like if the Bruins are at eight years 7.8 and Jeremy Swayman is looking
22:40for eight years 8.5. They're not that far off like they're there's there's a middle ground
22:44there. They shouldn't have to work out. How do we how do we both look like we didn't lose right?
22:49Well, and and the other part of it though that Pierre Lebrun was saying yesterday and seems
22:54obvious with the way things have played out is that there that the Bruins are going to have to
23:00like repair the relationship with Jeremy Swayman like and there's going to that is even more
23:06important than the money is or the term is repairing like what was damaged in all this
23:13like I if that's true and that's coming from Jeremy Swayman side like both sides are like
23:20extremely guilty of rolling in the mud in this and like why is it on the Bruins to repair the
23:26relationship with Jeremy Swayman like he's like that their side has been you know squeaky clean
23:31in this entire thing. I think they should both probably have a handshake and say bygones and
23:35then like it's over but my question is Jeremy Swayman was very like bitter and salty about the
23:43arbitration process and never forgot it like do we are we supposed to believe he's going to sign
23:46a long-term contract here and not forget some of the stuff that happened here and that's not going
23:51to bother him and be something that he's going to be vocal about and it's going to be a problem and
23:55and not only that like I think the one thing Pierre Lebrun didn't talk about is the repairing
24:00the relationship with like the fan base. I think there's a large faction of the fan base now that's
24:05not happy with Jeremy Swayman and the way this has played out and that's going to have to be repaired
24:10too. I just think like there's been damage done I think in these negotiations like for both sides
24:18and I think it's going to be really difficult and it's going to be messy like if they come
24:24together and you know just agree on a long-term contract this is not going to be like sunshine
24:30roses and rainbows like there's going to be a lot under a lot of pressure on Jeremy Swayman and
24:35people are going to be ready to boo him if he does not play well because based on the way things have
24:39played out and obviously the Bruins are going to get criticism for the way they handled in the
24:44beginning where they were trying to be nice guys about things and they kind of got you know taken
24:48advantage of for you know trading Omar early for not going for salary arbitration like some of the
24:54stuff that they did they're going to there's going to be criticism of that too. Arbitration certainly
25:01could not have been a solution for them because Swayman could choose a two-year award if the
25:06Bruins took him to arbitration and if he chooses a two-year award then he's UFA so that so that's a
25:12non-starter as far as arbitration but overall yeah absolutely and and I think that I'd like to
25:21think that the agent is the drama queen here yeah and that and that well try to say oh you would say
25:31he definitely is to a degree but let's like let's be honest here Jeremy Swayman talked multiple
25:38times about arbitration during the season last year and could not let it go and that is a big
25:41part of everything that's going on here which is a little surprising considering if he's so
25:46educated on how these things go and how it all works how the hell did he not know that if he
25:54took the team to arbitration right that the team was not going to come to the arbitration prepared
26:02to not take a beating right I agree I mean I mean and and nothing they said was this wasn't like
26:10Mike Milbury telling Tommy Salo that you're the most that telling an arbiter in front of Tommy
26:15Salo that this is the most poorly conditioned professional athlete I've ever seen right you
26:20know I mean I mean and him leaving with tears streaming down his face you know right I mean
26:24this is this is not you know this isn't like the old days this is a highly professional above board
26:32you know what you know what I'm not taking for granted and it's probably going to be fine
26:37but if I'm Don Sweeney and I've met the media several times and I have gone to great lengths
26:45to try to answer questions without crossing the fine lines presented to me in every tricky way
26:52possible to get me to divulge information that can be used to construct some sort of
26:59deduced reasoning on what the deal must be or the offer must be right and he's constant cognizant
27:05of that all the time and then cam right next to him so I'm surprised I don't have 64 million
27:10reasons why I'd be playing right now and Don Sweeney's like he could be thinking like are you
27:15shitting me I mean there's no way this was a united front no it doesn't seem like it I think
27:22that there is a disconnect between those two all along I mean I don't think Don Sweeney traded
27:28Danton Heinen for Nick Ritchie I don't think Don Sweeney fired Bruce Cassidy I think that you know
27:34he told us three weeks before he got fired that that he had confidence in him he was going to
27:38bring him back the next thing you know he's gone I mean I think that this is this is uh classic
27:46meddling from above and and uh and you know yeah I think Cam saw no issues with what he had to say
27:58and is expressing his feelings on it it was great theater Mick these are both guys Don Sweeney and
28:03Cam Neely these are both guys that went through the whole Harrison and experience so I'm sure
28:08they are absolutely rolling their eyes at the level of uh crocodile tears about arbitration
28:14going on right now when I'm sure they handled it a much different way than Harry and Michael
28:18Connell back in the day if it was Cam or Donnie going arbitration with them and I'm sure that
28:25they're just rolling their eyes like what you know we have to repair a relationship like did
28:30Harry ever have repair a relationship with anybody after he no no did you hear the Gary Galley story
28:35no what was that oh Gary Galley went to arbitration and Harry wound up trading him to
28:40Dallas for um I mean to this uh for Gordon Murphy and uh and so he I guess he called Gary Galley
28:47after the arbitration was all over and asked him you know Gary Galley lost he wound up getting his
28:53horrible offer and and the arbiter decided something was just completely way off the
28:59charts bad for him it wasn't fair at all and then Harry told him on the phone you've got what you
29:04deserved this is and Gary Galley still is like cheerfully laughing about this and saying but
29:12this was Harry this is what it was like dealing with you know I mean and I and I also find it
29:17just in general to be really ironic in this day and age whereas if you talk to the media the fans
29:26throughout the entire Harrison in three decades that he was the president and usually GM of the
29:31Bruins that they never won the Stanley Cup with him coming back 72 73 going up and told uh he
29:39fires Pat Berenza and hands the keys to Mike O'Connell even though O.C.'s fingerprints have
29:44been on the team for five years yeah uh so all that time it was always Harry won't spend the
29:50money Harry won't spend the money Harry does Harry does Jacob's biddings and and he'll never
29:55they'll never win because he's a cheapskate okay fine now all of a sudden all GMs in in
30:02in every sport are now being criticized for not being Sinden like right it's incredible the way
30:09everything is flipped over yep I don't get it we'll be back to show in a minute but let's thank
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32:36forget where i read this but uh p.r dorian when he was uh in charge of the senators had said that
32:43like recently like uh the arbitration process like they had two of the three guys that they
32:49took to arbitration with the senators were no longer with the team within two years after that
32:54like because it's like it's become a situation where like today's athlete can't handle the
32:58arbitration process and get so disillusioned or you know whatever uh upset about it that they they
33:06can't they can't repair uh in their mind they can't wrap their brains around like getting past
33:11it and just moving on hey god everybody can be tim thomas right i tried they tried to trade me
33:16when i was hurt so i'm gonna take all the bruins paint off my my goalie helmet yeah and i'm gonna
33:22go back out the next year and win the damn vesna and the cons might right and it's like you know
33:29f you to every the world and i'm gonna you know prove everybody wrong like that which is like
33:34the right attitude to have you know while not like causing a three-ring circus to talk about
33:41your feelings you know what i mean like right yeah i think that's kind of it's it's i just
33:47wonder like given jeremy swayman's makeup which is extremely like strong-willed as far as proving
33:54people wrong i think and as far as like answering questions about himself and like i think there's
34:00a sensitivity there with him there's no question about it but i think there's also a drive uh
34:05within him that's making him uh as good as he is like pushing him to be as good as he is
34:12but like i honestly wonder given what we've seen about jeremy swayman the human being jeremy
34:16swayman the makeup is he going to be able to be successful in boston after all this has happened
34:22like i really have questions about that if this baggage is going to be too much and it's going
34:27to be like especially if he holds a grudge afterwards you know if like well it feels like
34:34if it goes hold on hold on let me finish if he feels like he didn't he let me put it this way
34:41i'm sure he was determined to win this negotiation after the arbitration process after being bitter
34:48about it after feeling like he got screwed and bad mouth and all that stuff he was determined
34:52to win this if it let's say he doesn't really win let's say they end up getting eight years
34:57eight million he doesn't really think that's a win the bruins of think they're paying too much
35:00nobody's happy which is probably what is going to happen for the right deal is nobody's really
35:05feeling like they want it is he going to be pissed again is he going to be like constantly talking
35:09about this because he didn't get what he wanted and he didn't win the negotiation like he thought
35:14he was going to and is this going to be like the arbitration thing where it's constantly going to
35:17be something that he's going to be like talking about and referencing when when you're asking
35:22about like things that have nothing to do with it like i just worry about that plus the fan
35:26reaction to him like if and when they do sign if they're not that far apart that there's going to
35:31be lasting reverberations from this whole process that's going to affect jeremy swayman the human
35:35being and goalie yeah i well i i think that that's a a valid concern i do think especially
35:46if this team i don't care if they're losing two to one or if they're losing
35:50seven to five if they're losing then assigned to jeremy swayman on a losing on a bruins team
35:59that's struggling out of the gate yeah that's going to bring out the torch bearing mob yes and
36:06and he'll take a lot of blame for that and um and it won't be fair if they're losing two to one
36:13but it won't change whether it's gonna happen no and so it's really imperative that the bruins get
36:19off to a start i don't have to be as good as it was in the last two seasons 14 1 and 3 that sort
36:26of stuff i'm not worried it doesn't have to be that good but but they got but it can't be it
36:32can't be uh can't be bad no right now um there's a little bit about this team from an offensive
36:41standpoint that you know the run support might not be there yeah and i i mean i also think
36:50jeremy swayman and the bruins frankly because they're both involved it takes two to tango
36:55i think they're both putting the go him in a position where he's not going to succeed this
36:59year like he's being put in a really difficult spot as a 25 year old goalie without a ton of
37:03pro hockey experience to start get jump on a moving train miss all the training camp and then
37:09try to get things going in season um he's gonna struggle and and that's on top of being the number
37:16one workhorse goalie when he comes in for the first time in his career you know without having
37:21like a lenis or a tuka next to him to kind of take the pressure off like you're talking about
37:26a lot of different things that are working together against him and not really putting
37:31him in the best position to succeed so i think all that stuff that you're talking about could happen
37:36because i think he's going to struggle i think he's going to have an adjustment as a period of
37:41adjustment and struggle based on missing camp and based on being the number one guy that maybe
37:46they're not thinking about right now no maybe not i there was a goal scored by well quinton byfield
37:52scored a hat trick last night but one of his goals was a put back and he just you know really
37:59overmatched parker wetherspoon in front of the boston net wetherspoon tried to have position
38:05tried to reach on him byfield was standing up high top of the crease swatted a puck he's just
38:14yeah past corpus alo inside the post on the ice you'd like to think that the goalie in that
38:22situation is going to cover anything low yep that made me wonder if if a team can generate some ugly
38:31goals against the bruins because you don't have an elite goalie you just have a good goalie
38:39then i'm not sure that they've got the offensive firepower right now to mitigate that difference
38:45between the goaltending that we've seen over the last couple of seasons in boston those
38:51goaltending has been outstanding the last couple seasons in boston they just didn't
38:56win the vesna because the bruins were a wagon they were a wagon because he was winning the vesna
39:01yep yeah no i agree um and yeah i but i i think both both you know on both sides i think there's
39:12going to be struggles this year like i i just think based on the way things have played out
39:16and based on corpus alo being the backup when swimming comes in based on it being corpus alo
39:20and bussy if swimming's not here there's definitely going to be like some struggles in net much more
39:25than they've been the last couple of years and that's going to impact the team too there's no
39:28doubt about it um all right mick thank you very much for joining us my friend let's thank our
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