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00:00Well, Mr. Nagano, in the interview with Golden Combi the other day,
00:04Kuruma-san said,
00:05Mr. Nagano's interesting point is that he creates his words from nothingness.
00:09It's a Japanese word that doesn't exist.
00:11That's a very good word.
00:13Mr. Nagano, what did you think when you heard that?
00:15I can't avoid the words that someone said.
00:17Yes, yes, I understand.
00:18That's why I tend to avoid the words that are popular or used by comedians.
00:23I don't say things like cold.
00:25I try to leave unique words rather than the words that hit people.
00:34I see.
00:36In the previous recording, you said,
00:38I don't know anything.
00:40Yes.
00:41That's why you said monkey.
00:43Monkey? Yes, yes, yes, yes.
00:45That's what you said.
00:47I could understand Mr. Nagano's interesting point.
00:50You compare it to something familiar.
00:52For example, grain.
00:53I don't know the words, so I don't know if it's good or bad.
00:57That's why I'm saying something very familiar.
01:00Comedians often use metaphors.
01:04I don't think I've ever heard of that.
01:07I think so, too.
01:08It's been a long time since I've done it, so I'm getting embarrassed.
01:10It's been seven years, and I've noticed that everyone is saying the same thing.
01:14Yes, I understand.
01:15In the competition, people say,
01:17Why do you say usual suspects?
01:20It's a little bit like this.
01:23Ah, he said it.
01:26Why do you say that?
01:28I'm embarrassed.
01:29And you often say,
01:31You have a face that is irreplaceable.
01:33What kind of face is this irreplaceable face?
01:36Celebrities have only met once.
01:39It's the face of a person who drinks white wine from noon and posts it on Instagram.
01:45I've only met once.
01:47When you take a picture, you have to be prepared.
01:50Yes, I'll take it.
01:52You're prepared.
01:53That's right.
01:54It's an unnatural act.
01:55White wine says, I forgive you.
01:57I've only met once.
01:59I was in an information program.
02:01I went to a celebrity's house.
02:04I said, I forgive you.
02:07That's an irreplaceable face.
02:09That face?
02:10That's the face.
02:11I finally understand.
02:13Nagano vs. Kuruma
02:16Nagano vs. Kuruma
02:18It's bright.
02:19What's this?
02:20It's a rare title call.
02:23I was surprised.
02:24I'll show you a lot of questions that are divided into A and B.
02:29Nagano and Kuruma will give you A or B cards.
02:33If you get caught in that answer, we'll talk about it.
02:38I don't want you to argue.
02:41I want you to understand each other's thoughts.
02:44That's a good idea.
02:46Here's the first question.
02:49If you were reborn as yourself, would you be an entertainer or not?
02:58Nagano would be an entertainer.
03:00Kuruma wouldn't be an entertainer.
03:01I wouldn't be an entertainer.
03:02Nagano, why would you be an entertainer?
03:03I don't mean it in a cool way.
03:05I think this is the only thing that makes me rich.
03:09I'm a sociopath.
03:12And it was too late to sell.
03:15I was lucky.
03:17So, I wouldn't say I want to be an entertainer.
03:19If I didn't do this, I wouldn't know what to do.
03:24I can't work normally.
03:25So, I wouldn't say this is fun.
03:28I would say it's annoying.
03:31But I think this is the only way to get rid of it.
03:34That's what I think.
03:35If you were reborn as yourself, would you be an entertainer or not?
03:40That's a challenge, isn't it?
03:42If you were reborn as yourself, would you be an entertainer or not?
03:44I would be an entertainer.
03:46I've been doing this since I was a student.
03:48I wanted to make an app.
03:51I wanted to make a virtual currency.
03:54I didn't know that.
03:55It's cool, isn't it?
03:56It's cool to fight in the latest place.
03:59It's cool.
04:00It's cool to fight in a place where you don't know what's going to happen.
04:03It's cool to be an entertainer.
04:05If you were reborn as yourself, would you be an entertainer or not?
04:11I don't want to be myself.
04:14I don't like myself at all.
04:16What do you want to be reborn as?
04:18I want to be reborn as Hattoshin.
04:21I don't want to be reborn as a watermelon.
04:25I hate being reborn as a watermelon.
04:28I want to be reborn as you.
04:31I think so, too.
04:33I want to be reborn as you.
04:35I don't want to be reborn as an announcer.
04:38I want to be reborn as a comedian.
04:40I want to be reborn as a comedian.
04:42I've been living my life denying ordinary life.
04:46I want to experience that.
04:48I agree with you.
04:49When I go to a wedding of a junior high school student,
04:54everyone is happy.
04:57I don't know why I'm here.
05:01I agree with you.
05:02Nagano-san and Kuruma-san are happy, aren't they?
05:05In a way, I'm happy to be on TV.
05:09But I'm not happy at all.
05:12I think I'm very emotional.
05:15I think I'm very emotional.
05:17I think I'm very emotional.
05:19I think I'm very emotional.
05:20I think I'm very emotional.
05:25I think I'm very emotional.
05:26I think I'm very emotional.
05:27I think I'm very emotional.
05:30We are sitting in a very real way.
05:32We are sitting in a very real way.
05:35I want to experience the stability of ordinary people.
05:44I agree with you.
05:45I don't usually do that.
05:47I feel like I'm going to wake up and say,
05:48I feel like I'm going to wake up and say,
05:50I don't want to be a human being.
05:52You don't want to be a human being?
05:54You're a monster.
05:56You don't want to be a human being.
05:59I want to end the act of being careful in my life.
06:03Like a cat?
06:04I want to be a jellyfish.
06:07You want to be a jellyfish?
06:09I don't want to be a jellyfish.
06:12What is that?
06:14Ordinary people are happy when they interview.
06:19Is that really happiness?
06:21What kind of interview is that?
06:22It's like a family trip in the countryside.
06:25I say I'm happy with my family.
06:27I don't feel excited.
06:30Is that happiness?
06:31There are a lot of people like that in Miyazaki.
06:34I don't know if it's true.
06:36They make a face for me.
06:38They make a face for me.
06:39Only when they meet me, they make a face for me.
06:41Only when they meet me, they make a face for me.
06:43I'm envious and I can't stand it.
06:46Otherwise, I can't sing in karaoke.
06:49When I was in karaoke, I was like this.
06:52Did you have a dream?
06:55Did you have a dream?
06:56But I threw it away.
06:57Now I'm a celebrity.
07:02But I'm leaking in karaoke.
07:04I want to take a spotlight in front of the audience.
07:08I feel like that.
07:10When I go to karaoke,
07:13my classmates sing Okuda Tamiya's Sasurai and mount me.
07:18That's not a manga.
07:20There were a lot of things.
07:23I felt like there were a lot of things.
07:27You don't sing in karaoke, do you?
07:30I get a lot of messages.
07:34I'm a celebrity, so I win in words.
07:37They attack me with songs.
07:39I see.
07:40I get a lot of messages.
07:42I get a lot of messages.
07:45When I go to karaoke, I sing Okuda Tamiya's Sasurai and mount me.
07:50I'll let you hear it.
07:51I'll let you hear it.
07:52That's not a manga.
07:54Here is the next question.
07:56If you get a job as a judge in a show race, will you accept it or not?
08:03Will you accept it or not?
08:05This question is for both of us.
08:08What would you do if I asked you?
08:11I want to be a player.
08:13So, I don't want to be like a person who got off.
08:21You don't want to feel like you've been around.
08:23I want to play M-1 as soon as possible.
08:25I want to play it next year.
08:26I want to play it next year.
08:27No way.
08:28I'm asking you.
08:29I'm afraid of being criticized when I play M-1.
08:35I'm afraid of being criticized when I play M-1.
08:37Will you accept it or not?
08:39I think I'm the most suitable for it.
08:41I don't have many people I can rely on.
08:44You're so strong.
08:45I don't have many people I can rely on.
08:47I don't watch a lot of manzai.
08:49I don't watch a lot of manzai.
08:50So, I don't want to do it.
08:52But there are kind people who do it for me.
08:54But there are kind people who do it for me.
08:56But there are kind people who do it for me.
08:58Reiji-san said that.
09:00I can't tell the difference, but they do it for me.
09:03I have my own reason.
09:05I have my own reason.
09:07If there is a tournament, it's better to have a reason.
09:10Everyone is different, but everyone is good.
09:12It's okay if we have 10 teams and play in the final.
09:15It's okay if we have 10 teams and play in the final.
09:17But if we have a reason, it's better to do it.
09:20So, I think it's better to do it.
09:22You're very considerate.
09:25But I also play R-1 with Zako.
09:28I see.
09:29I can play with him.
09:32But he's very serious.
09:35He's very serious.
09:36I think that's why he has more work to do.
09:38I think that's why he has more work to do.
09:40Nagano-san, let's start with someone quiet.
09:42For example, NHK's new member.
09:44Can I do it?
09:45Obayashi Motoko-san is the new member.
09:48Anyone is fine.
09:50Can I do it with Obayashi Motoko-san?
09:52Yu-san is also doing it.
09:54Yu-san is also NHK's new member.
09:56I want to do it.
09:58I usually watch it.
10:00You cheat.
10:02I watch it all the time.
10:03Next question.
10:04If you were an entertainer in your next life, which agency would you join?
10:09A. Yoshimoto B. Not Yoshimoto
10:13Go ahead.
10:15What should I do?
10:17It's the other way around.
10:19Do you want to join Yoshimoto?
10:20I wanted to join Yoshimoto.
10:22I joined Yoshimoto when Tokyo NCC was established.
10:25At that time, Ran Ran Suzuki was popular.
10:27When I imitated Ran Ran Suzuki's way of speaking,
10:32I was rejected.
10:34Because my face was dark.
10:35How did you do it?
10:36Hello.
10:38I'm Nagano.
10:40I like comedy.
10:42I was rejected.
10:44I became a revenger.
10:46But...
10:48You were so happy.
10:50The result may have been good.
10:52I may have been in a unique style and position.
10:54But I think Yoshimoto is comedy.
10:58In a bad way, I think it's a bad style.
11:01I envy Yoshimoto's connection.
11:06If I were an entertainer in my next life, I would like to join Yoshimoto.
11:11I think I'm the best masterpiece of Yoshimoto.
11:16There are many interesting people in Yoshimoto.
11:20I came here because I did my homework.
11:24I was given a live performance.
11:26There are many theaters all over the country.
11:29I'm a person who is only grateful for that.
11:31Did you grow up in a free rock band?
11:33That's right.
11:34I just won in a free rock band.
11:36If I were an entertainer in my next life, I would like to enjoy everything.
11:40Until I retire.
11:42There is no one who enjoys Yoshimoto more than me.
11:45I'm Yoshimoto.
11:47I'm Yoshimoto.
11:49I respect everyone.
11:51People who are not Yoshimoto, but who are popular.
11:53They are geniuses.
11:55There are only a few plays in the world.
11:58But they suddenly do a miraculously interesting play.
12:00It's a miracle.
12:02For example, Mr. Saraba.
12:03It's the first time to do a play in the semi-final of M-1.
12:06It's like going to the final with a monster.
12:08I want to fight while thinking if I can be a genius.
12:14If I win, I can get a huge prize.
12:19I want to enjoy gambling.
12:21There is an interesting atmosphere of connection between people.
12:25It's impossible to do that with Yoshimoto.
12:27I want to laugh at the atmosphere of Yoshimoto.
12:32I want to laugh at the atmosphere of Yoshimoto.
12:37There is such a thing all over Japan.
12:40I want to enter a world where I can laugh because I am a comedian of Yoshimoto.
12:45That's why I think I'm doing the right thing as Yoshimoto.
12:50It's the movement of Yoshimoto.
12:52That's why people gather to see the result of the show race.
12:58That's right.
13:00Don't play Yoshimoto.
13:03I love Yoshimoto more than anyone else.
13:10My younger brother said that Yoshimoto is a motive.
13:14Yoshimoto's motive is Yoshimoto.
13:19There is an interview with AN-AN.
13:21It seems to be over today.
13:23What is the topic of AN-AN?
13:26What is the topic of AN-AN?
13:28Do we appear in AN-AN?
13:30AN-AN is a dirty program like this.
13:33I don't think so.
13:35I feel like I'm putting dirt on AN-AN.
13:37I wasn't surprised at AN-AN.
13:40AN-AN is a dirty program like this.
13:43I'm sorry.
13:44AN-AN is a dirty program like this.
13:47People who read AN-AN are watching our program.
13:52Did you think so?
13:54I'm watching AN-AN.
13:55AN-AN is a good person.
13:57That's right.
13:58AN-AN is a good person.
14:00AN-AN is a good person.
14:04AN-AN is a good person.
14:09AN-AN is happy to see that AN-AN is working hard.
14:13AN-AN is happy because AN-AN is a good person.
14:15AN-AN can't watch AN-AN's program unless they are good at it.
14:18You can't watch it.
14:20AN-AN is satisfied with AN-AN's program.
14:23AN-AN is satisfied with AN-AN's program.
14:26AN-AN's program is not new to AN-AN.
14:28AN-AN is very good at AN-AN.
14:33I was like, wow, these two are here to represent us.
14:36Plus, I'm sorry to be so cheeky, but I think there's a longing for them.
14:42For the two of them?
14:43Good-shaped people don't get that much stress.
14:47That's why they're usually playing catch-up.
14:52We're really sad, so we'll do it together.
14:55Yes, that's right.
14:56We're in the same pain.
14:58They're good-shaped, but they have a longing for dangerous people like us.
15:04That's why models go to bars like Nakameguro to play catch-up.
15:10But they're so shallow.
15:13They don't have the pain.
15:14I want to get rid of them, but I can't because I long for them.
15:18Like Oita City.
15:19So I feel like I long for Nirvana's Kurt Cobain.
15:22When Kurt was 7 years old, his parents got divorced.
15:25When I was 7, I was like, wow.
15:27When my parents got married, I was like, get a divorce!
15:31Get a divorce!
15:32Me too.
15:33Me too.
15:34I want the same happiness.
15:36I want scars.
15:37I want my relatives to say, I'm home.
15:40I think that's what they long for.
15:43Next time, the Rangers vs. Kunisaki.
15:46Good morning.
15:47I failed at everything.
15:49Failure?
15:50I failed at everything.
15:56Next Episode
16:00It's time to balance with the main story.
16:06So cute.
16:09Fate.
16:12There's a time like fate.
16:17It's mine.
16:19It's mine.
16:21It's mine.
16:22I made a scary voice.
16:26Don't fight.
16:28Don't fight.
16:32Don't fight.
16:35He took it.
16:37Wow.
16:39A perfect winner was born.
16:42It's gotten cold all of a sudden lately.
16:46That's what I think.
16:47I don't think much.
16:50I'm good at being cold.
16:53I'm not good at being cold.
16:57That's one way of thinking.
17:00That's all.
17:01Watch it.
17:02Watch it.