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00:00115, 113, Sacramento. Curry on the far away, takes a deep three off the dribble, spins away, ball deflected, loose ball Fox, Fox on the go, takes it in, goes up, foul by Post.
00:15I think that was a frustration. I'm not able to get a shot when I call for a screen and roll by Steph, and not that he couldn't make it, he almost did, but he hadn't got a shot off in a long time. It's just tough because I think for him to get off shots, it's almost better not to bring in the screener.
00:37Dubnation, it's Steve Kerr. You're listening to Willard and Dibbs on 95.7 The Game.
00:47Well, thank you, Coach. I got to imagine that Steve Kerr has been doing press conferences and maybe even to a degree conversations with us through his teeth for the last few weeks. And I didn't even think of this until we sort of got our conversation going about that shot, which to me was the moment of the year.
01:07It was the moment that Steph Curry looked at everybody and went, can't do it. We can't do it. Can't do it. Can't win with them. Can't do it. Cannot run this offense and get a good shot. So we're going to fire from 34. Can't do it.
01:24And then everybody's got to line up and find the microphones afterwards to tell everybody, we're going to figure it out, and we're going to keep trying. Mike Dunleavy's going to do his job, and we need to take care of the ball better. We need to learn how to defend without fouling. My God, you need somebody who can create a shot who's not named Steph Curry.
01:46They don't have anybody. And so they know. They know. They are well aware right now that they do not have the pieces. And by the way, I'm not sure that Jonathan Kaminga is that guy either. It's better. That would be your best chance. But it's not like Kaminga is a finished product on step-back jumpers and drives to the hole to finish. It's not like that's perfect yet either.
02:13I don't know, man. I don't know. I think they know. There is no answer.
02:20Right, which is why they're saying we're not going to do something reckless at the deadline to bring in one player who would help. You could pick any player you want. Take any player in the league right now and just dream about them being able to trade for that player.
02:37Do the Warriors become a championship contender? If you want to bring in Gilgis Alexander or Anthony Edwards or LeBron or Victor Wenbenyama or the Joker or pick any player you want in the league and just airlift them on this team, you go from an 11 seed to a five seed or a six seed.
03:02It doesn't mean that you are necessarily automatically better. And that's why when they said what they said last week or the week before, I do think it's more about what we saw last night. And look at Steph in the second half and I'm looking at his each individual shot he took.
03:16He took five shots after halftime. He took one shot in the third quarter and it was at the end of the third and he got swatted trying to drive into the lane. He got swatted from behind and in the fourth quarter he took four shots and he made one of them. And this is your best player and he is, but Steph can't create his own stuff.
03:39He can't. He couldn't do it. And by the way, Tommy, maybe the most important, I keep saying Tommy, Tom Tolbert, that's who you're listening to with Tim Roy on the broadcast. Tommy on the road last night. And so when he says it's almost better for them to not, he's talking about the teammates, it's almost better for them to not come over and set the pick for Steph Curry because all that does is bring another defender to the party.
04:06And Steph can't, like he looked exhausted. He's like, I can't shake two or three people. And the fact that the Warriors don't seem to have anybody who can make a defense that's doing that pay, mind boggling and beyond frustrating.
04:23Right. And by the way, for me, beyond the idea of a conversation around rotations, that's like, I know how many of you are mad at that. And I'm not here to tell you you're wrong. I like Steve Kerr is trying so many different things. And I know a lot of people get annoyed with that. But why do you think you're trying so many different things? Because nothing's working, right?
04:45Nothing's working. Like I Moses Moody. Okay. What? Yes, he's a nice player, but he's not the answer. Not the answer to the Rubik's Cube, man. No, there is no answer. And even if you get everybody back healthy, you get pods and you get slow mo and you get coming and you get dream on. Well, now you have more answers. But I still don't think that that's necessarily enough.
05:10And, you know, what Tom Tolbert was talking about on the broadcast is so right on. And I'm looking at it here. Minute thirty eight to go. Steph comes across half court and here comes Wiggins to set a screen. It's going to be a screen and roll. And normally Steph would take the screen and either dump it down to the screener if he gets double teamed.
05:29He gets double teamed. Now you have a four on three. But in this case, he didn't even let the screen get to him. He takes one more dribble and just pulls it. And officially it's listed as a thirty one footer felt to me was from the hash. Whatever, wherever it was from, thirty something. It was clear that he didn't want to play the game of screen and roll. So I take the screen and now the help defender is going to jump me and my guy is going to catch up.
05:55And now I'm facing another double team to do what dibs. He didn't want to play warrior basketball anymore. Yeah. And that's why I texted you all that he gave up. Not Steph was wrong. Not Steph's a quitter. Steph looked at the court and went, hey, four teammates. I give up. That doesn't work.
06:19It's Wiggins setting the pick and he looks to his right and you've got the seven footer Quinton Post waiting. You've got Buddy in the corner waiting and you've got Guy in the short corner. Guy, Buddy and Quinton.
06:32And by the way, I'm not trying to disrespect any of these guys. Guy is fantastic. Fun to watch. I'm yelling Guy for three like all night last night in the living room. He looks great doing all the things that he does. But again, what's the answer?
06:49What's the answer? The question isn't, hey, I wonder if the Warriors could find someone who can do a couple things out there that you didn't know was there. That's not the question we're asking. What's the answer? What's the answer to the Rubik's Cube? How do you look at a court and go, we need to fool the defense. We need to outsmart the defense. We need to have more athleticism than the defense.
07:15We need to impress upon the defense something that they can't stop. No answer. There's no answer. There's just nice stories all over the place.
07:25The answer early in the year was Buddy Heald. He's hot. Buddy's electric. And D'Anthony Melton, who was looking like a nice two-way threat. And Draymond Green and his elite IQ. And Andrew Wiggins off to a terrific start to his season. So the answers were there, but now you've got streaky Buddy. You've got Dennis who can't even really finish games.
07:50Dennis has been so disappointing. Right?
07:53No doubt. No doubt.
07:55Dennis Schroeder has been...
07:56Last week you were still reluctant to use those labels, but now I mean...
08:01I'm there because he doesn't do well what the Warriors do. He just doesn't do it. He's a ball stopper. And I get it. He is a ball in the hand, pick and roll, solid two-way NBA guard. That's what he is. But the Warriors don't do that. They don't do ball stoppers. They never have.
08:26You can be a ball stopper if you're getting 18 and 9. But when you're 3 of 8 and you only play 20 minutes, 21 minutes, and the coach didn't have you in the finishing lineup because you're just not doing enough on either end of the floor, then you can't be a ball stopper unless you get the ball, it stops, and you score.
08:46And then you score.
08:47Then you can stop the ball.
08:48Like there were moments last night where DeMar DeRozan was a ball stopper. And I think he finished with 30. What?
08:5432.
08:55What did he finish with?
08:56Dude, he was tremendous last night.
08:58Right.
08:59On so many levels.
09:00And you look at that team from DeRozan to Murray to Monk to Fox, and oh, by the way, Damas Sabonis, he can do some things. And you no longer can just simply let him shoot from the outside because he's gotten better at that.
09:14But they've got four legit bucket getters on the floor. So not only defensively are you in trouble, but you've got to find a way to get your own buckets on the other end.
09:23Like Warrior fans, maybe you just take a huge step to the right and watch this through a different window and think to yourself, yo, freaking amazing they were even in this game.
09:36Like, honestly, I know that's frustrating, but if you just lay it out like you just did man to man, give me the five who are on the floor there at the end.
09:46They got De'Aaron Fox. They got Malik Monk. They got DeMar DeRozan. You got Damas Sabonis. And then what else do you got?
09:54He's either Keegan Murray or Keon Ellis.
09:56You have that, and the Warriors are hucking at the opposition Guy Santos, Trace Jackson Davis, or Quentin Post, whichever one you wanted to throw in there.
10:09Quentin out there who's playing in I think his fourth NBA game, roughly.
10:13You said Buddy Heald was out there.
10:14In the corner.
10:15Right. And then Andrew Wiggins.
10:17Correct.
10:18Athletically, Andrew Wiggins fits into this sentence.
10:20Right.
10:21But like, what on earth are you, like, it's incredible that the Warriors, like, and it only speaks to they're killing it from three in the first half.
10:30Right.
10:31If you do that, like we've said it for a few weeks now, knock down those threes, Warriors are going to be hard to beat.
10:37But in the absence of that, and you're never going to get four straight quarters of that, they shot over 50% from three in the first half.
10:4554%.
10:46I'm looking at it right now.
10:47Yeah.
10:48They were 14 of 26 from three.
10:50Sacramento was 7 of 18.
10:51So that right there is a 21 point difference.
10:54And they were up by 17.
10:55And they were up by 17.
10:56There you go.
10:57And, you know, the Kings had shot only 12 free throws.
11:00They shot 20 more in the second half.
11:02But the Warriors didn't turn over a lot.
11:04They had seven turns.
11:06Sacramento had five.
11:07You made your threes.
11:09You built the lead.
11:10And then you get to the second half.
11:11The three dries up.
11:13Sacramento wakes up.
11:14And it's ballgame.
11:15But we've been conditioned for 12 years.
11:17And so we wake up the next day and we go, that third quarter.
11:20You idiots.
11:22You didn't play well in the third quarter.
11:25No, they just regressed to the mean for a second, which is inevitable.
11:29You're not going to shoot 54% from three for an entire night.
11:34It's not possible.
11:35And then in the fourth quarter, they even had a couple flurries where you're like, ooh, maybe they will pull this out.
11:41But, like, it's a house of cards, man, when you're going against a good young athletic team.
11:47It's a house of cards.
11:48One of ten in the third quarter.
11:50The Warriors were from three.
11:52Sacramento was only one of six.
11:54But they were 14 of 20 from two.
11:57DeRozan.
11:58Six of those were DeRozan.
12:00And Sabonis.
12:01And Keegan.
12:02And Sabonis.
12:03They were taking the ball to the bucket.
12:04And Monk, yeah.
12:05And they got only seven free throws in the third.
12:07But they were scoring their twos at an alarming rate.
12:1016 of 20 from two, which my math tells me is pretty good.
12:15That's pretty good.
12:16All right.
12:17Let's hear from the people, okay?
12:18888-957-9570.
12:20Tim Roy next hour.
12:21Adam Amin, the voice of the Bulls, is in the hour after that.
12:24But we want to hear a lot from you today, as always.
12:27Wayne in Alameda.
12:28Hi, Wayne.
12:29Thanks for calling.
12:30What's up, fellas?
12:33One thing I wanted to do is maybe move the conversation a little differently.
12:38I mean, I agree with you guys.
12:42Is the only way out to trade Steph and Draymond and Wiggins and start accumulating first-round picks?
12:50The answer isn't in the trade.
12:52I guess the question for you guys is, you know, the franchise is $8 billion and Steph is the face of it.
13:00What does it do to Joe Lacob and his evaluation?
13:04So, appreciate it, guys, and look forward to hearing your response.
13:08Yeah, Wayne, thanks.
13:09I mean, look, I've at least arrived at the spot where I'll admit that someday we might have to have this conversation.
13:16That's the best I can do today.
13:18I don't know where you're at, but I just, like, my answer to that is no longer.
13:23I mean, I think we've sat here for a year and a half almost making fun of people when they would call in and be like,
13:29trade stuff, and be like, oh, we got the lunatic fringe on line six.
13:34But, like, I've now arrived at a spot where I'm like, okay, like, I get the opinion, but I'll still stand here firmly in this cement.
13:43The organization and the fan base are still not ready.
13:46They're not ready.
13:47They're not ready to have that conversation, and most people I know never will be.
13:52Even if it becomes almost obvious, most people I know will continue to say, if we lose, we lose.
14:01If we lose with Steph, we lose with Steph.
14:04I'm fine with that.
14:05I want him to finish as a warrior more than us accelerating the reboot by a year or two.
14:13I think that's how most people feel.
14:14Agreed.
14:15And it really comes down to, I guess, the idea of diminishing returns for Steph Curry.
14:22And I can't help but think always about the Boston trade when they dealt Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce.
14:28And I'm looking at his numbers right now.
14:30Kevin Garnett, when they traded him, he was 12th in the MVP.
14:34He averaged 14.8 and 8 rebounds, which was below what his career was.
14:40He was a declining asset at 36, almost 37.
14:44Same thing with Paul Pierce.
14:45And he went on to Brooklyn, and he did nothing.
14:49And then he went back to Minnesota and did even less.
14:52So if you can find a sucker like the Nets were, they were Brooklyn at that point.
14:59That was the worst trade maybe in the history of professional sports because Brooklyn got a clearly washed Kevin Garnett
15:06and a soon-to-be-washed Paul Pierce and a Jason Terry who was not really that good anymore either.
15:13They gave up three firsts and a pick swap.
15:16So if you can take Steph and Draymond and get that kind of a haul back, well, then you have to think about it.
15:22But I believe we're at a point now where Steph is going to be 37, Draymond's going to be 35, both in March.
15:30I don't think that you're going to get that kind of a haul.
15:33And even if you do, it took Boston some years to get the assets and turn the thing around.
15:41I'll tell you what.
15:43I guess you could Danny Ainge it for a while is I think what you're saying.
15:48And for those who don't understand what I mean by that, it's you can almost hold every other GM hostage, if you will,
15:56and wait for those moments where they're desperate, where they're going for a championship.
16:00And, yeah, if somebody overwhelms you with an offer, maybe.
16:04I don't know.
16:05I'm still in a moment where I'm like, this is not real.
16:09This is not real.
16:10I don't think the organization is feeling this way.
16:13I don't think they're thinking this way.
16:14I doubt they would ever do it.
16:16Do you understand the cojones that it would take to trade Steph Curry?
16:20This is the last thing I'll say on it for this particular conversation.
16:25I still believe until the end it would have to come from Steph.
16:29He would have to say, I want out.
16:33Not like in a Jimmy Butler way, but maybe in an Anthony Davis sort of a way.
16:38Like he would have to do that.
16:40That's the only way the organization, I think from a PR standpoint, could even do this.
16:45Agreed.
16:46And I don't know if he would ever get to that spot.
16:49But the more we look at it and we look at last night and like you mentioned that three that he puts up from 31 or 34 or however far it was,
16:58that level of frustration, that's not going away.
17:01So if you stand pat at the deadline and it looks like that could be the course of action.
17:06So he's got what, 39 more games this year where he's going to be doubled.
17:12He's going to be hounded.
17:13He's going to be just tracked and bumped and harassed and all the rest of it playing alongside Lindy, Guy and Quinton.
17:21And I'm not singling them out as not being good players.
17:24But when you're Steph Curry and you know your career is coming to an end and you don't really have a lot of help,
17:30the frustration is only going to build.
17:32How about Trevor and Ronard Park?
17:35Hi Trevor.
17:36Thanks for calling in.
17:37What's up?
17:38Hey, what's up guys?
17:40You've said a lot in the last 20 minutes.
17:42I've been listening to a lot of things that I would like to say.
17:45And you're right.
17:46There is no answer to what's going on here.
17:49And it's frustrating probably for the players and the fans too.
17:52So what do you do?
17:53In my opinion, and just my opinion, you try and make a move.
17:58You try to make a trade.
17:59And if you don't make a trade, it's kind of, I think, missing out.
18:03Because if you look at the roster that the Warriors have now,
18:06if you were to tell me that the Warriors couldn't go out and make a trade,
18:11and say they give up two or three guys and get somebody, or maybe four guys,
18:16and then you get Jimmy Butler.
18:18And you know that's going to go into next year, right?
18:20So you're building for next year.
18:22You're not talking about winning this year, even with a guy like that.
18:25Even if you get whoever it is you can think of in your mind,
18:29if you could trade for that guy, does that make you a championship team?
18:32It doesn't.
18:33But what you're trying to do is build for the future.
18:35And there's not one player on this team that's not replaceable
18:38with somebody else in the free agency market in offseason.
18:41I really believe that.
18:42So why not make the trade now?
18:45Make a move.
18:46And I keep hearing people talk about Kaminga as if he was back,
18:50somehow that would have influenced the game in a way that it wouldn't
18:53have been meaningful.
18:54Maybe, maybe not.
18:55He's been playing for a few years now.
18:57Kaminga is who he is.
18:58I still think Kaminga is a guy that's a trade piece.
19:02I don't look at him as a guy that you can lean on.
19:05Yes, he goes to the lane, he goes to the hoop, he gets fouled.
19:09It's great.
19:10But he doesn't do – he is not that consistent, guys.
19:13I don't know why his name keeps coming up as if someday he's going to turn
19:18around and be that guy.
19:20He's not going to be that guy.
19:22However, I think there are many in the organization who see it the same way
19:26as you do.
19:27Thanks for calling.
19:28And then there are others who don't.
19:30And I don't know exactly what Jonathan Kaminga is going to become.
19:34Yes, he remains inconsistent at this point, and now he's hurt at a really,
19:38really key time, which stinks.
19:40But is trading him off the table?
19:42No, I think it's off the table right now.
19:45It's not off the table after they sign him to an extension and he's making
19:49more money and something could happen later down the road in the offseason
19:52or even later.
19:53I think that's possible.
19:54I'll agree with him on this point that I don't think the Warriors should have
19:59first-round picks off the table in conversations over the next two weeks.
20:04I would hesitate to give up next year's first-round pick, meaning this year's
20:08first-round pick.
20:11But if you give one up that's down the road, kind of the way Phoenix just did,
20:16and then whatever you try to do doesn't work, you can replenish it.
20:19You can get it back with a different trade.
20:22You can always replenish it.
20:23So I would not hesitate, if they feel like there's something out there that
20:28makes them better, to give up a first-rounder, especially if it's a little
20:31bit down the road.
20:33I can agree with that to the extent that if you do a trade and you give up a
20:38future first, I want it to be for a player that is young and you have some
20:43sort of contractual control over.
20:45I don't want to give up a first for Vucevic, a guy who is 34 and only has one
20:51more year.
20:52That to me is a bad deal because you're giving up a future young player for a
20:56current old guy who only has this year and then next year and then he's gone.
21:01So if I'm going to look to make a trade like that, if I can get Cam Johnson,
21:06who is 25, 26 years old, a younger player, somebody who is going to help me
21:13athletically and somebody who also only has this year and next year, I believe,
21:17of contractual control.
21:1828, actually.
21:19Okay.
21:20But anyway, still got a 2 in front of his head.
21:22What, younger than almost everyone on your team?
21:24Yep, yep, yep.
21:25I mean, even younger than Wiggins and he's Kavan's age, even though we all
21:28think Kavan is 44.
21:30Kavan's only 28.
21:31So if you're going to give up a first, for me, I want multiple years of a
21:35player and a younger player.