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00:00:00Good morning!
00:00:02Good morning!
00:00:04Now, let's get started.
00:00:06Let's talk!
00:00:08Wait a minute.
00:00:10I know you're excited about the news,
00:00:12but we're going to talk about it.
00:00:14First, Mr. Nishikawa
00:00:16made an official image song
00:00:18for the Tokyo Marathon 2025.
00:00:20Please talk about it.
00:00:22Please call me when you're done.
00:00:24Mr. Nishikawa can't talk either.
00:00:26Oh, really?
00:00:28Actually,
00:00:30I think the other channel
00:00:32has already started,
00:00:34so I'm sure you're excited.
00:00:36If you talk like this,
00:00:38everyone will be irritated.
00:00:40Let's do it!
00:00:42On Sunday, March 2nd,
00:00:44the Tokyo Marathon
00:00:46made an official image song
00:00:48for the Tokyo Marathon
00:00:50called All United.
00:00:52Let's get excited together.
00:00:54Let's get excited!
00:00:56You're not supposed to talk like this.
00:00:58I'm laughing.
00:01:00No, no, no.
00:01:02I'm not laughing.
00:01:04Mr. Nishikawa.
00:01:06What made you
00:01:08make this song?
00:01:10I put my heart into it.
00:01:12Thank you very much.
00:01:14That's fast.
00:01:16You shouldn't make him cry.
00:01:18He's the one who made it.
00:01:20Someone's hurt.
00:01:22Well,
00:01:24I made an album
00:01:26and it will be released in February.
00:01:28Among the songs,
00:01:30I've been working on my body
00:01:32lately.
00:01:34I used to run
00:01:36the Osaka Marathon.
00:01:38At the end of the marathon,
00:01:40when it's close to the finish,
00:01:42when it's the hardest,
00:01:44the theme song plays.
00:01:46Oh, I see.
00:01:48All United.
00:01:50I don't know,
00:01:52but I really want to quit.
00:01:54It's hard.
00:01:56I was moved and cried.
00:01:58I ran while crying.
00:02:00The theme song is
00:02:02a very important and memorable song
00:02:04for those who run.
00:02:06It's a familiar song.
00:02:08It's a new song.
00:02:10I made it for this.
00:02:12It's the last 3km or 2km.
00:02:14I've run the Osaka Marathon.
00:02:16Osaka is unique.
00:02:18It's about 10km
00:02:20from the start to the finish.
00:02:22Somehow,
00:02:24from the middle to the end,
00:02:26everyone was running.
00:02:28A lot of people were cheering
00:02:30at the end.
00:02:32It's an Osaka-like cheer.
00:02:34One old lady was playing drums.
00:02:36Playing drums?
00:02:38I don't know if it's hard
00:02:40to run,
00:02:42but it's hard for me to cheer.
00:02:44Everyone said that.
00:02:46I was looking down.
00:02:48It's a long speech.
00:02:50It's a long speech.
00:02:52I have to run slowly.
00:02:54It's hard for you,
00:02:56but it's hard for me, too.
00:02:58Everyone said that.
00:03:00We're doing our best together.
00:03:02I ran while saying I'm sorry.
00:03:04This program is
00:03:06a wide show where celebrities
00:03:08who are usually scooped
00:03:10talk about their personal opinions.
00:03:14This year,
00:03:16it's a big news.
00:03:20It's not strange
00:03:22to say that.
00:03:24The person next to me
00:03:26is Chichi Mikazuki.
00:03:28He's one year younger than me.
00:03:30He's younger than you?
00:03:32Yes.
00:03:34He's from Takahama Power Plant.
00:03:36He's from Takahama Power Plant.
00:03:38That's a lie.
00:03:40What is this?
00:03:42This is a lie.
00:03:44It's provided by the agency.
00:03:46It's his personal information.
00:03:48It's his personal information.
00:03:52Some who do electronic business
00:03:54will be scoping
00:03:56various issues from the magazine
00:03:58in the magazine.
00:04:02That's what you made
00:04:04on a computer.
00:04:10I've never made such a lie.
00:04:12Mr. Sumita, a lawyer, is here with us today.
00:04:17Thank you for having me.
00:04:19We often see you on Japanese TV.
00:04:21Sumita is known as a lawyer.
00:04:25After graduating from Tokyo University Law School,
00:04:27you were a prosecutor at the Tokyo District Prosecutors' Office.
00:04:29Yes, that's right.
00:04:31You worked as a lawyer in the Ministry of Justice, the Secretariat, etc.
00:04:37You also served as a member of the Council of Ministers,
00:04:41the Prime Minister, the Defense Minister, etc.
00:04:45Yes, I was a member for a long time.
00:04:47I was the chairman in March,
00:04:49but I was doing a pretty tough job.
00:04:51I see.
00:04:52Today, we have a special guest, Mr. Sumita,
00:04:55who will be reporting on Fuji TV.
00:04:58We look forward to your comments.
00:05:00I will do my best as a woman.
00:05:05I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart.
00:05:08I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart.
00:05:17Fuji TV held its second press conference on 27th last month
00:05:21on a series of issues,
00:05:23including the women's troubles of former talent Masahiro Nakai.
00:05:28The press conference began at 4 p.m.
00:05:31It ended at 2.24 a.m.
00:05:35It took more than 10 hours.
00:05:39First of all, I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart
00:05:44to the women at the time who were not able to take care of themselves
00:05:50due to a lack of awareness of human rights as a company.
00:05:56I am very sorry.
00:06:02Chairman Kano Shuji and President Minato Koichi announced their resignation.
00:06:10The lack of awareness of human rights
00:06:14meant that we were not able to fully function as a company.
00:06:22I would like to apologize from the bottom of my heart.
00:06:32At the first press conference on January 17th,
00:06:36the 27th press conference was held without permission
00:06:40and without any permission from the media.
00:06:47The press conference was held in an open format
00:06:50with the exception of the media.
00:06:54191 organizations and 437 people gathered.
00:07:02One of the issues was whether the employees of Fuji TV
00:07:05were involved in the troubles of former talent Masahiro Nakai.
00:07:10On the 27th, Fuji TV explained as follows.
00:07:15We believe that the employees of Fuji TV
00:07:18were not involved in the problem at all.
00:07:23We have not been able to contact the women.
00:07:27We will submit the results of the investigation
00:07:30to the third committee in the future.
00:07:35At the press conference,
00:07:37Minato Koichi repeatedly said that the employees were not involved.
00:07:43We conducted various hearings,
00:07:46checking the history of communication interests,
00:07:51and so on,
00:07:55but the employees of Fuji TV were not involved
00:08:00in the specific day of the incident.
00:08:04The employees of Fuji TV were not involved
00:08:09in the specific day of the incident.
00:08:17However, he also explained that he had not been able to contact the women.
00:08:23He also asked questions about the consultant role
00:08:26of Hieda Torishimari,
00:08:28who has been influential for a long time
00:08:31as a representative of the Fuji 3K Group.
00:08:33I would like to ask why Hieda Torishimari
00:08:36is not a consultant role.
00:08:38I heard that he had a request from the company.
00:08:41Before the employee meeting on the 23rd,
00:08:44Mr. Minato, Mr. Kano, and Mr. Endo
00:08:47said to Hieda Torishimari,
00:08:49saying,
00:08:51You guys are going to lose by this.
00:08:54This is what was reported today.
00:08:57Was there such a fact?
00:09:00I have talked to various people in various directions
00:09:02about the death of Hieda Torishimari.
00:09:04Of course,
00:09:06Hieda Torishimari also talked to us about it.
00:09:11Not only Hieda Torishimari,
00:09:13but also various people are talking about it.
00:09:15Didn't Mr. Hieda Torishimari take any responsibility?
00:09:18Didn't he say that he would quit himself?
00:09:21I would like to refrain from talking about
00:09:23what kind of conversation there was in the individual situation,
00:09:25but as I mentioned earlier,
00:09:27we had a very in-depth discussion
00:09:29about the state of each company.
00:09:31Rather than saying that Hieda will not come here,
00:09:34I think it is important
00:09:36what kind of responsibility each of them will take in the future.
00:09:39Kirin Holdings,
00:09:41which has not changed its tough stance
00:09:43since the opening of the conference,
00:09:45commented that the discussion on human rights violations
00:09:47had not been resolved,
00:09:49and continued to
00:09:51make it clear the idea of
00:09:53postponing the publication of the ad.
00:09:55In addition,
00:09:57in addition to cooperating with the investigation
00:09:59by the Third Party Committee on Fuji TV,
00:10:01it also said that if there was a human rights violation,
00:10:03it would rescue the victim.
00:10:08In this way,
00:10:10the Weekly Bunshun corrected
00:10:12a part of the article
00:10:14claiming that a person
00:10:16who was an employee of Fuji TV
00:10:18invited him to a dinner
00:10:20with an ex-talent,
00:10:22Masahiro Nakai.
00:10:24The Weekly Bunshun claimed
00:10:26that a victim was invited
00:10:28to a dinner
00:10:30by Mr. A,
00:10:32who was an employee
00:10:34of Fuji TV,
00:10:36who was an employee
00:10:38of Fuji TV.
00:10:40The Weekly Bunshun
00:10:42explained that
00:10:44after the interview,
00:10:46a victim was invited
00:10:48by Mr. A,
00:10:50who was an employee
00:10:52of Fuji TV.
00:10:54The Weekly Bunshun explained
00:10:56that a victim was invited
00:10:58by Mr. A,
00:11:00who was an employee
00:11:02of Fuji TV.
00:11:04The Weekly Bunshun claimed
00:11:06that Mr. A was not involved
00:11:08in any trouble,
00:11:10and also told Mr. A
00:11:12that he would leave
00:11:14the investigation
00:11:16to the Third Party Committee.
00:11:18The Weekly Bunshun
00:11:20also said that
00:11:22Mr. A was involved
00:11:24in any trouble,
00:11:26and also said
00:11:28that Mr. A was involved
00:11:30in any trouble,
00:11:32Mr. A was involved
00:11:34in any trouble.
00:11:36Mr. Toyosaki,
00:11:38there were 191 participants
00:11:40in the re-opening
00:11:42of Fuji TV.
00:11:44There were 437 participants
00:11:46in the re-opening
00:11:48of Fuji TV.
00:11:50What was your impression
00:11:52of the re-opening?
00:11:54I think it became clear
00:11:56that the management
00:11:58had a problem
00:12:00because they broadcasted
00:12:02Fuji TV for more than 10 hours,
00:12:04and there were reporters
00:12:06from the press
00:12:08asking questions.
00:12:10Among the people
00:12:12working at Fuji TV,
00:12:14there were people
00:12:16who were able
00:12:18to make the right decisions.
00:12:20On top of that,
00:12:22I would like to think
00:12:24about the future.
00:12:26I think the attention
00:12:28is going to be drawn
00:12:30to the future.
00:12:32Of course,
00:12:34I think it is better
00:12:36to investigate,
00:12:38but I would like you
00:12:40to think about
00:12:42making rules
00:12:44after that.
00:12:46For example,
00:12:48if you raise your voice
00:12:50and say,
00:12:52I also had this kind
00:12:54of thing,
00:12:56then who is the victim?
00:12:58I can imagine
00:13:00that it will be censored
00:13:02on social media.
00:13:04But if you stop
00:13:06raising your voice
00:13:08because you don't like it,
00:13:10it may not be necessary
00:13:12to take measures
00:13:14because there was nothing
00:13:16to investigate.
00:13:18So, no matter
00:13:20what the results are,
00:13:22I think it is very important
00:13:24to make sure that
00:13:26you don't go to
00:13:28drinking parties
00:13:30by yourself.
00:13:32Not only women,
00:13:34but also men
00:13:36may be called
00:13:38to drinking parties
00:13:40by themselves.
00:13:42I think it is important
00:13:44to make excuses
00:13:46to protect employees.
00:13:48On top of that,
00:13:50there may be
00:13:52some problems
00:13:54in the workplace,
00:13:56so it is important
00:13:58to make sure
00:14:00that there is
00:14:02a compliance office
00:14:04in the workplace.
00:14:06I think there are
00:14:08many cases
00:14:10where the compliance office
00:14:12is not in contact
00:14:14with the talent,
00:14:16so it is important
00:14:18to make sure
00:14:20that there is
00:14:22a compliance office
00:14:24in the workplace.
00:14:26Also, I think
00:14:28it is very difficult
00:14:30to deal with
00:14:32the issue of
00:14:34the law of plurality.
00:14:36I remember
00:14:38that you were
00:14:40in the article
00:14:42on the day of the
00:14:44re-hearing.
00:14:46Yes.
00:14:48When you make a mistake,
00:14:50you should apologize
00:14:52as soon as possible.
00:14:54If you make it on time,
00:14:56you can apologize
00:14:58on the day of the re-hearing,
00:15:00but if you don't,
00:15:02you have to apologize
00:15:04on the next day.
00:15:06I think some people
00:15:08didn't know about
00:15:10the re-hearing.
00:15:12On social media,
00:15:14people said
00:15:16they didn't know
00:15:18about the re-hearing.
00:15:20I heard that
00:15:22Mr. Hashimoto pointed it out.
00:15:24If Mr. Hashimoto hadn't pointed it out,
00:15:26I think the article
00:15:28wouldn't have been
00:15:30corrected,
00:15:32so I think
00:15:34it was necessary
00:15:36to explain
00:15:38why it was
00:15:40announced at this time.
00:15:42Mr. Ishikawa,
00:15:44I heard that
00:15:46there was a press conference
00:15:48on Monday,
00:15:50and that the re-hearing
00:15:52would be held in a few days.
00:15:54Now, there is a lot of information
00:15:56about the re-hearing.
00:15:58I think it's hard
00:16:00to say anything
00:16:02about individual cases.
00:16:04I'm sorry.
00:16:06I think
00:16:08I'll add
00:16:10what you said earlier.
00:16:12I think there are
00:16:14various opinions
00:16:16in the press conference.
00:16:18I'd like to hear
00:16:20as many facts as possible
00:16:22about the re-hearing.
00:16:24I'd like to hear
00:16:26as many facts as possible
00:16:28about the re-hearing.
00:16:30There was a dangerous scene
00:16:32where a female reporter
00:16:34was said to be
00:16:36violating the human rights
00:16:38of a foreign woman.
00:16:40I felt that
00:16:42all the reporters
00:16:44including the host
00:16:46were men.
00:16:48And when it comes to the age,
00:16:50with the changing times,
00:16:52I think that
00:16:54the reporters
00:16:56understood the
00:16:58compliance and corporate governance
00:17:00properly,
00:17:02including the content.
00:17:04In fact,
00:17:06in the media,
00:17:08there was a female reporter
00:17:10named Hiwara.
00:17:12She was said to have
00:17:14violated the human rights
00:17:16of a foreign woman.
00:17:18But she was not only
00:17:20advertised on the radio,
00:17:22but also interviewed
00:17:24for events.
00:17:26I think that
00:17:28there are more women
00:17:30in the society.
00:17:32For example,
00:17:34there are only two women
00:17:36in the society.
00:17:38I think that
00:17:40it's easier for women
00:17:42to talk to each other.
00:17:44I think that
00:17:46we should
00:17:48look at the issue
00:17:50from that perspective.
00:17:52Is it necessary
00:17:54to hold a re-hearing
00:17:56for more than 10 hours?
00:17:58Is it necessary to
00:18:00have a re-hearing
00:18:02for more than 10 hours?
00:18:04I think it's the same.
00:18:06However,
00:18:08the subject matter
00:18:10of the re-hearing
00:18:12was often
00:18:14the subject matter
00:18:16of the weekly press conference.
00:18:18By holding a re-hearing,
00:18:20I think there were
00:18:22many questions
00:18:24about whether
00:18:26the company itself
00:18:28was involved
00:18:30in the re-hearing.
00:18:32In the end,
00:18:34the fact that
00:18:36there was a re-hearing
00:18:38between the participants
00:18:40and Mr. Nakai
00:18:42remains the same.
00:18:44So,
00:18:46I think that
00:18:48there were many questions
00:18:50about the company itself.
00:18:52I think that
00:18:54we should
00:18:56make it clear
00:18:58as soon as possible.
00:19:00I think that
00:19:02the reporters
00:19:04should answer
00:19:06the questions
00:19:08based on the subject matter
00:19:10of the press conference.
00:19:12So,
00:19:14I think that
00:19:16we should
00:19:18think about
00:19:20the position
00:19:22and responsibility
00:19:24of the media
00:19:26in the future.
00:19:28Well,
00:19:30I think that
00:19:32the reporters
00:19:34were invited
00:19:36by Mr. Nakai
00:19:38to the press conference
00:19:40because
00:19:42they saw
00:19:44the corrected articles.
00:19:46So,
00:19:48based on the fact
00:19:50that
00:19:52the subject matter
00:19:54of the press conference
00:19:56was the truth
00:19:58and the truth
00:20:00was hidden
00:20:02by Fuji TV,
00:20:04they could only see
00:20:06what was going on.
00:20:08Of course,
00:20:10some of the reporters
00:20:12were calm
00:20:14and asked the right questions.
00:20:16But,
00:20:18most of the reporters
00:20:20were lying.
00:20:22So,
00:20:24including the president,
00:20:26they said that
00:20:28they were not involved.
00:20:30So,
00:20:32I think that
00:20:34the reporters
00:20:36should be calm
00:20:38and ask the right questions.
00:20:40I don't want to see
00:20:42the reporters
00:20:44apologizing.
00:20:46I don't want to see
00:20:48the reporters
00:20:50being hysterical.
00:20:52But,
00:20:54I want to see
00:20:56and hear the truth.
00:20:58If I were a reporter,
00:21:00I would be able to join the press conference.
00:21:02So,
00:21:04I think that
00:21:06the reporters
00:21:08should be calm
00:21:10and ask the right questions.
00:21:12So,
00:21:14I want the press conference
00:21:16to be open
00:21:18to the reporters.
00:21:20Mr. Fujiterubi
00:21:22should be telling the truth.
00:21:24So,
00:21:26I think that
00:21:28the reporters
00:21:30should be calm
00:21:32and ask the right questions.
00:21:34I think that
00:21:36the reporters
00:21:38should be calm
00:21:40and ask the right questions.
00:21:42I think that
00:21:44the reporters
00:21:46should be calm
00:21:48and ask the right questions.
00:21:50I think that
00:21:52Mr. Fujiterubi
00:21:54explained that
00:21:56the assassins
00:21:58could have changed
00:22:00their mind.
00:22:02I think
00:22:04Mr. Fujiterubi
00:22:06could have changed
00:22:08their mind.
00:22:10Is it true that
00:22:12Mr. Cit scores
00:22:14the assassin
00:22:16I couldn't give this information to the Comprehensive Plan Committee.
00:22:18That's right.
00:22:19It's impossible.
00:22:20It's impossible.
00:22:21It's impossible.
00:22:22It's impossible.
00:22:23When this kind of negative information comes up, people with immediate decision-making power
00:22:28get together and say, what should we do?
00:22:31We have to have a serious meeting.
00:22:33We have to make sure that it doesn't leak to a small number of people.
00:22:37Or it's impossible to see it as a completely covert action.
00:22:42If it leaks, it's a problem.
00:22:45So, people with immediate decision-making power get together and say, what should we do?
00:22:50And the other party is a superstar.
00:22:52So, they talk about the importance of that problem.
00:22:54And when it comes to the victims, the company protects them.
00:22:59And they think about how to deal with Nakai.
00:23:03But only a few people shared the information.
00:23:06This is the first problem.
00:23:08The first problem is that they didn't say it to the Comprehensive Plan Committee.
00:23:10One more thing.
00:23:12It was also mentioned at the press conference.
00:23:14Mr. Nakai said that he continued to work on the program.
00:23:18Mr. Minato, the former president of FUJI TV, said that he was thinking about when to end the program.
00:23:25This is also a question.
00:23:28From the perspective of the victim, I don't want to hear his name.
00:23:32That's what I think.
00:23:34It's natural.
00:23:35That's how much the victim thinks.
00:23:37I've heard the voices of many women victims.
00:23:40Ms. Sugita, what did you think of this re-trial?
00:23:44I thought it was inevitable.
00:23:47And the reason why it took so long was that there was no formal procedure for the trial.
00:23:52The question was repeated.
00:23:53It was coercive.
00:23:54It violated privacy.
00:23:56The prosecutor had to stop it immediately.
00:23:58He didn't stop the trial at all.
00:24:00If he couldn't stop it, the person who would answer would say, stop it.
00:24:03He would look at it and answer.
00:24:05He didn't have to answer.
00:24:07I see.
00:24:09Mr. Inoue, what did you think?
00:24:11I was wondering who the people at FUJI TV wanted to protect the most.
00:24:19The victim had to be protected.
00:24:21And the employees at FUJI TV had to be protected.
00:24:26And if the trial went on for so long, the victim wouldn't feel good.
00:24:32I thought there were a lot of factors that made the employees at FUJI TV more anxious.
00:24:42In the end, they couldn't protect what they wanted to protect.
00:24:46They just had a bad time for a long time.
00:24:50I have a strong impression of that.
00:24:53Ms. Sugita, one more thing.
00:24:55In the weekly article, you corrected the article.
00:24:59How did you correct the article?
00:25:03I didn't think the weekly article was a waste of time.
00:25:07I think it would have been better to correct it right away.
00:25:11At first, it was a female article.
00:25:12After that, it was a weekly article.
00:25:14That's right.
00:25:15Female articles are like that.
00:25:17One more thing.
00:25:19We'll talk about the barbecue later.
00:25:23There were two barbecue talents and staff.
00:25:29They were having a good time.
00:25:31From that point on, the main talent changed.
00:25:39How can I avoid Tsurubi-sensei?
00:25:45That's right.
00:25:46It's been a long time.
00:25:48Of course, I didn't know that.
00:25:51Before I knew it, I went to a barbecue with a person I've been working with for decades.
00:25:59I said I'd go home in the evening.
00:26:02The person who went home was too scary to influence my work.
00:26:08I don't think the talent should be careful about that.
00:26:12Mr. Hiromi also said that.
00:26:15The golf club was canceled and the barbecue was held as it was.
00:26:19He just went home and participated in it.
00:26:22Ms. Tsubakihara.
00:26:24As a member of Fuji TV, I think you've seen the press conference.
00:26:28What do you feel about the atmosphere of Fuji TV?
00:26:34That's right.
00:26:35As I said earlier, there was a figure of Fuji TV staff standing in the press conference.
00:26:41I think it's important to deal with the problem objectively as a press agency.
00:26:55There is also a survey by the Third Party Committee.
00:26:58Before that, if there was no problem with the company's compliance, corporate style, and governance,
00:27:04I felt that I had to change as an employee.
00:27:11I'd like to say a word.
00:27:13After all, when there is a strong management system, strong power disrupts somewhere.
00:27:20For that reason, the wisdom of democracy is a check system, a reverse system, and a governance system.
00:27:26At that time, the compliance room didn't work this time.
00:27:29There was also a problem that the information was monopolized in the sense that it was not shared.
00:27:38In that sense, the fact that the check system didn't work is the future rule-making.
00:27:42I think we should reflect on the fact that it didn't work even if there was a system.
00:27:46I'm sorry, but I'd like to say one more thing.
00:27:48Please go ahead.
00:27:49I think it's good that the labor union has finally been completed.
00:27:53In that sense, the employees of the stakeholder should be properly managed as a union.
00:27:59Fuji TV has said that the number of labor unions is very small.
00:28:02It's been like that so far.
00:28:04I don't mean to boast, but the salary is good.
00:28:09It's a bright company.
00:28:11It's been going well so far.
00:28:13Is it okay for the employees to stand up because it's not good?
00:28:18That's right. This move is important as an employee.
00:28:21There is a possibility that the stakeholder will also move in the future.
00:28:24I see.
00:28:25One more thing.
00:28:27There were a lot of questions about Mr. Hieda.
00:28:35To be honest, I don't know.
00:28:37I've never been to the scene.
00:28:39Have you ever met him?
00:28:41No, I haven't.
00:28:43I see.
00:28:44He's been at the top of power for a long time.
00:28:48I've seen it on TV.
00:28:50I've read the newspaper and read the news.
00:28:52I'm talking to him.
00:28:53I think it's bad for the company.
00:28:55I think he's saying a lot of things.
00:28:58I don't know why he doesn't come to the meeting.
00:29:02I don't know about that.
00:29:04I think it's a matter for the committee to investigate.
00:29:07I see.
00:29:08I don't know exactly what he was doing.
00:29:10Mr. Hieda said he would consult with him at this meeting.
00:29:13He said that, right?
00:29:14The other thing is that he's been a stakeholder for a long time.
00:29:19He's been a stakeholder for a long time.
00:29:22It's not possible for an ordinary private company.
00:29:25Is it common to be a stakeholder and a consultant?
00:29:29If you're a consultant, you should leave the management authority of the stakeholder.
00:29:35You should just be a consultant.
00:29:39I think it's very important that he didn't let go of his authority.
00:29:44Do you think it's important?
00:29:46I'm sure you've heard a lot about corporate governance and compliance.
00:29:54If corporate governance works properly,
00:29:57you can work properly on compliance and become a healthy company.
00:30:05At this time, I think we as small and medium-sized companies should think about it.
00:30:13I think governance is a healthy organization.
00:30:18Corporate governance.
00:30:19Corporate governance.
00:30:20But from the point of view of whether the check function and monitoring function are working,
00:30:26I think it's important that we don't share or consult with each other about the negative information.
00:30:35In that sense, we've been measuring the timing on our own.
00:30:39In that sense, we didn't reflect the promotion system of the company.
00:30:43As a result, the damage to human rights has continued for a long time.
00:30:48I think this is big.
00:30:49As Mr. Toyosaki said, the third party committee is going to conduct a hearing.
00:30:55Do you have any concerns that the hearing will be known and publicized in the world?
00:31:10I'm a lawyer at the same committee, and I've done it before.
00:31:15What are your concerns?
00:31:17First of all, the third party committee will start by collecting information.
00:31:21I think we've been doing something similar in Hyogo Prefecture.
00:31:27So first of all, I'd like you to spread the net.
00:31:30Not just one fact, not just that day, but spread the net and see what happens.
00:31:35I'd like you to do this survey committee with the determination to spread the net.
00:31:40After that, we'll have to think about how to publicize the facts in the end.
00:31:46So in that sense, we're in a position where we're worried.
00:31:50The third party committee is going to get a lot of information.
00:31:54I'm just saying that it's not going to be a disadvantage.
00:31:58I've heard a lot of people say that.
00:32:02Can you do it in March?
00:32:05Actually, that's what I was most worried about.
00:32:07I used to be a prosecutor, so when I was doing a lot of information surveys,
00:32:10I was a little relieved to hear that there would be a lot of people coming in.
00:32:15It's a group survey.
00:32:17Depending on how much information is collected, it's important to ask each person in detail.
00:32:21This kind of thing is very sensitive.
00:32:24I'd like you to investigate in a variety of ways, including women.
00:32:29Of course, we'll be hearing from women other than Nakai-san.
00:32:34But I don't know how much they'll cooperate.
00:32:38To be honest, I've always had a question about cooperation.
00:32:42It's about getting more and more people who are said to be victims.
00:32:46And the victims are coming out this time.
00:32:49It's a matter of corporate responsibility.
00:32:53I'd like you to make it clear that it's a matter of corporate responsibility.
00:32:58I'd like you to add psychological chaos to it.
00:33:02Is it possible to talk about it even if you have a corporate responsibility?
00:33:06I don't know what it says about the corporate responsibility.
00:33:09There's a possibility that you won't do it.
00:33:12There's a possibility that you won't do a civil case.
00:33:15But if you don't say that you did it in a weekly article,
00:33:20There's a possibility that you'll go into an investigation to pursue a fair corporate responsibility.
00:33:28I think it depends on the stage of the case.
00:33:32It's a case of how much you can say.
00:33:35That's a little different from what the lawyer says.
00:33:38We need to look at the evidence.
00:33:41I think there's plenty of talk about removing the evidence.
00:33:46Remove it and talk about it.
00:33:50I think that's a social mission.
00:33:53Mr. Nakai, if you've come this far.
00:33:55A social mission?
00:33:56Yes, I think so.
00:33:57Mr. Nakai also received a lot of social support.
00:34:00And the third party committee is going to hear from the managers and other people.
00:34:06I think that kind of cooperation is very important.
00:34:09I think that's the first step to recovering trust.
00:34:12There's a lot of difficult things.
00:34:14To the people who trust Fuji TV.
00:34:18I hope they'll think that Fuji TV has changed again.
00:34:21I hope they'll think that they're doing their best.
00:34:25I hope Fuji TV will be the company that values human rights and compliance the most.
00:34:32I'll do my best.
00:34:34Thank you very much.
00:34:35Let's move on to the next news.
00:34:37A fake blood pit is a romance fraud.
00:34:40Ask for a donation to be trusted in an AI video.
00:34:49Mr. Nishikawa.
00:34:51Mr. Takuro Morinaga, an economist and economic analyst.
00:34:55This is the Aquatic Eye Stage 4, which was diagnosed as a nuclear malignancy.
00:35:01Have you ever worked?
00:35:03Yes.
00:35:04That was 10 years ago.
00:35:07It was the 20th anniversary of the TMA revolution.
00:35:10It was the anniversary of the TMA revolution.
00:35:13I was working on a project to show various related events.
00:35:19I felt like I was working for a company.
00:35:23So I started a new company.
00:35:28I worked as a consultant for Mr. Morinaga.
00:35:34You worked for the same company?
00:35:36Yes.
00:35:37I was the TM for Mr. Morinaga.
00:35:41Mr. Morinaga.
00:35:44He's a unique character.
00:35:47But he's working hard on the economy.
00:35:51His son is also an economist.
00:35:56Mr. Imawa and Mr. Toyosaki are also in the show.
00:36:01It's very interesting.
00:36:04It's about saving money.
00:36:07It's about helping people in need.
00:36:14Ms. Sumida.
00:36:16Mr. Morinaga and you were colleagues in college.
00:36:19He was a professor at Tokyo University.
00:36:23We were in the same class.
00:36:26We ate together.
00:36:29He said he wanted to be a student.
00:36:33He wanted to be a student.
00:36:38I understand how he felt.
00:36:40He has many sides.
00:36:42I know he was encouraged by his teacher.
00:36:46His book, Zaimu Shinrikyo, was published.
00:36:50I was angry at him.
00:36:53I was angry at him.
00:36:56I'm sorry.
00:36:58He was 67 years old.
00:37:00Thank you very much.
00:37:03According to French media,
00:37:06a French woman was cheated by a man named Brad Pitt.
00:37:10She was cheated about 130 million yen.
00:37:15Brad Pitt was a Hollywood actor who was AI-generated.
00:37:24Two years ago,
00:37:26a woman named Brad Pitt's mother sent a message on social media.
00:37:31After that, she began to communicate with the fake Brad Pitt.
00:37:37However, the real Brad Pitt was not on social media at all.
00:37:43At first, she was careful.
00:37:46However, the fake Brad Pitt deceived the woman by sending images and videos of the AI-generated Brad Pitt.
00:37:53As her faith deepened, she began to talk about love.
00:37:58Also, when she was hospitalized for kidney cancer,
00:38:01she sent a fake picture in the hospital room to the woman.
00:38:05She needed money for treatment.
00:38:08Her ex-wife was in charge of the account,
00:38:11and she couldn't pay for it herself, so she asked the woman for a deposit.
00:38:16The woman, who had been in a relationship for more than a year and believed that she was in a relationship,
00:38:21refused to pay the deposit.
00:38:24Last summer,
00:38:26she saw a picture of the real Brad Pitt with his new girlfriend in a magazine,
00:38:32and she realized that it was a fake for the first time.
00:38:36In this situation, the real Brad Pitt's agency said,
00:38:41it's the worst to use the connections between celebrities and fans,
00:38:45but please be careful not to follow the messages from actors who don't use social media like Brad Pitt.
00:38:54Mr. Ibara, in this era...
00:38:57I didn't understand what was going on.
00:39:04I've been suspicious of you for a year.
00:39:11But if you're a fan,
00:39:13I think you're getting more and more expectations.
00:39:19You're a group that's at the doorstep of fraud.
00:39:22It's good to have a few out of a million people.
00:39:26I've seen pictures and videos of Brad Pitt talking.
00:39:30It's like he's showing his weakness to himself.
00:39:32He can't say it to anyone.
00:39:33He doesn't show it to anyone.
00:39:34That's right.
00:39:35He's Brad Pitt.
00:39:38He said he was in the hospital.
00:39:40He said, Anna, I love you.
00:39:42He showed me that he had hair.
00:39:46Oh, it's Brad Pitt.
00:39:48It's because he's a fan.
00:39:50For example, in the past,
00:39:53For example, if you're overseas,
00:39:55If you say you want to talk on the phone,
00:39:58It's like, I love you so much.
00:40:01I think there was a place where it was going to come out.
00:40:04If AI starts to replace it,
00:40:08For example, I've been releasing a lot of songs.
00:40:12Then I have a lot of data.
00:40:14AI eats it.
00:40:16For example, if I look up songs that I can't sing,
00:40:23I can sing songs that I can't sing.
00:40:26For example, Freddie Mercury was singing Ojamajo Doremi.
00:40:30It's AI.
00:40:32There are a lot of things that can be reproduced.
00:40:34Moreover, the feeling of discomfort in the lips and flesh is getting higher and higher.
00:40:40I don't feel uncomfortable anymore.
00:40:42If you don't pay attention to Japan,
00:40:44Japan is a popular culture.
00:40:46When a popular person comes to Japan,
00:40:49For example, voice actors.
00:40:51I don't know what it looks like.
00:40:54But if you come to Japan, you'll believe it a little bit.
00:40:57If you just do it with your voice.
00:40:59In fact, the same AI and SNS in Japan.
00:41:01There's a fraud.
00:41:03I think it was last May.
00:41:05A man in his 70s in Osaka who believed in the story of investment from a person who was a real estate agent on SNS.
00:41:12It's about 250 million yen.
00:41:15That's why this person said,
00:41:18I'm sure this story will make a lot of money.
00:41:21For the sake of a full-time job.
00:41:23That's what it means.
00:41:25A photo of an entertainer in an investment fraud ad.
00:41:27It's being used without permission.
00:41:28Is the number of posts increasing?
00:41:30Please be careful.
00:41:32The quality is going to improve more and more.
00:41:36It's going to be really hard to break that boundary.
00:41:39I don't know how to judge fake news.
00:41:42It's certainly a problem for entertainers.
00:41:47Mr. Sumida, you haven't said anything about the presidential election.
00:41:52It's also in the U.S. presidential election.
00:41:55It's really hard to tell how fake news is going to be seen.
00:42:00At least there are two points when it comes to consumer damage.
00:42:04It's about asking multiple people what they think.
00:42:08I think it's okay to have one or two people who say it's impossible.
00:42:12Some people say, I'm glad.
00:42:14I'm glad.
00:42:15I did it.
00:42:16It's amazing.
00:42:18I was chosen.
00:42:19After all, what do you do when you make money?
00:42:23Personal information.
00:42:24It's important to ask the police or the consumer advice window once.
00:42:33If you don't have money, it's over.
00:42:35People who like you will never ignore money.
00:42:38It takes a lot of time to pay for the first shot.
00:42:42Create a trust relationship.
00:42:44When I was told that, I felt like I was doubting myself.
00:42:53So I just paid.
00:42:56If you refuse, this relationship will end.
00:43:00If you trust me...
00:43:04Have you ever paid someone?
00:43:06Have you ever asked someone to lend you money?
00:43:09Yes, I have.
00:43:11How much?
00:43:12Did you get cheated?
00:43:14No, no.
00:43:15When I was dating someone who didn't work, I paid him.
00:43:20But it happened.
00:43:22It's the same.
00:43:23Even if you're cheating, you don't have to pay.
00:43:27I liked him, so I paid for his bike.
00:43:30I can't refuse.
00:43:3226,000 yen.
00:43:34What are you doing?
00:43:35When I was young.
00:43:3726,000 yen when you were young.
00:43:39It's a lot of money.
00:43:41When I was young, I paid 26,000 yen for a girl.
00:43:48I didn't tell anyone.
00:43:51Fake videos and money.
00:43:55I think it's okay to think that you're trying to deceive a bad guy.
00:43:59When I was told about the money, I felt like I was in a simulation.
00:44:05When I was told about the money, I felt like I was trying to deceive a bad guy.
00:44:09Especially on social media.
00:44:12We sympathize with good people.
00:44:15This program is too good to be true.
00:44:23This program is too good to be true.
00:44:31The person who makes the timing to go home.
00:44:36The person who makes the timing to go home.
00:44:42We sympathize with good people.
00:44:47I want to make a program that you can watch while thinking about good people around you.
00:45:01The number of visitors has exceeded 270,000 since the first opening last year.
00:45:07This program is too good to be true.
00:45:12This program is held in Shibuya, Tokyo.
00:45:15This program is too good to be true.
00:45:20This program is too good to be true.
00:45:26When I met a clerk in the convenience store.
00:45:32When I shampooed again.
00:45:39When I tried to high-five, no one was watching.
00:45:44We sympathize with good people.
00:45:50We sympathize with good people.
00:45:55This program is too good to be true.
00:46:00The number of visitors has exceeded 270,000 since the first opening last year.
00:46:05Inoue, do you sympathize with good people?
00:46:09I have never been treated like that.
00:46:13I sympathize with good people.
00:46:19I sympathize with good people.
00:46:24I sympathize with good people.
00:46:29I sympathize with good people.
00:46:34I sympathize with good people.
00:46:39I sympathize with good people.
00:46:45I sympathize with good people.
00:46:50I sympathize with good people.
00:46:53I sympathize with good people.
00:46:58I went to work in a taxi.
00:47:01I was sent to SHINAGAWA station.
00:47:04I forgot my tablet in the taxi.
00:47:10I called the receptionist.
00:47:14I talked to the taxi driver.
00:47:19I asked him what time he would return to SHINAGAWA.
00:47:24He said he would wait for me.
00:47:27I gave him my tablet and sent it home.
00:47:31He is a very good person.
00:47:37There are many things displayed in this store.
00:47:40For example, this is a place to clap.
00:47:43There are people who clap at the beginning of the store.
00:47:47There are many people who clap at the beginning of the store.
00:47:50There are many people who take pictures of the Wi-Fi here.
00:47:56He is very kind.
00:47:58There are many people who do this.
00:48:02There are many themes other than good people.
00:48:06There are many cute people.
00:48:10There are many people who drink tea from the meeting chair.
00:48:15There are many cute people.
00:48:18There are many people who sit down.
00:48:23There are many people who are awkward.
00:48:26There are many people who walk to the exit of the store.
00:48:33There are many people who don't come to the elevator.
00:48:38There are many people who close the door slowly.
00:48:41Thank you very much.
00:48:44There are many people who open the door in the middle of the store.
00:48:49There are many people who close the door with a skeleton.
00:48:53This is YOMIURI TV.
00:48:57There are many people who close the door with a skeleton.
00:49:00Why did YOMIURI TV close the door with a skeleton?
00:49:03I don't know why.
00:49:06I have been waiting for YOMIURI TV.
00:49:09The Japanese TV is closed.
00:49:12When I go home from the show, the staff send me to the elevator.
00:49:20The Japanese TV is closed.
00:49:23I see a lot of pictures on the poster.
00:49:28I don't feel good at all.
00:49:31I feel bad for you.
00:49:34I feel bad for you.
00:49:36When I'm waiting with a colleague who I don't remember.
00:49:40I don't have anything to say.
00:49:43I don't have anything to say.
00:49:47I don't have any memories with this person.
00:49:50I don't have a topic to talk about.
00:49:53I think so too.
00:49:57I'm worried about the schedule.
00:49:59I'm worried about the luggage I'm carrying.
00:50:05I'm worried about the store I reserved for the first time.
00:50:09I understand.
00:50:11I'm worried about the picture of the camera roll.
00:50:15I'm worried about the picture of my daughter's daughter.
00:50:22What is your daughter's?
00:50:24I'm worried about my daughter.
00:50:30What are you worried about?
00:50:32I'm worried about your daughter.
00:50:34I'm worried about the picture of the camera roll.
00:50:37I feel very nervous.
00:50:40It's a picture of the camera roll.
00:50:44I have a friend who takes pictures of body builds and competitions.
00:50:51If you take a picture of yourself, or if you take a picture of a wall, you can take a lot of pictures.
00:50:56But that zone is naked.
00:50:58If you look at it closely, there is a skin-colored zone.
00:51:01What is this place?
00:51:03There are only naked old men.
00:51:05If you zoom in, you can see that it's a man, but if you look at it closely, this zone is naked.
00:51:13Skin-colored zone.
00:51:14This is very awkward.
00:51:16It's awkward.
00:51:17Maezono, do you have any awkward moments?
00:51:22There may be a lot of athletes.
00:51:26Do you remember suddenly coming here?
00:51:29I think everyone has it.
00:51:31Do you remember for the first time in a long time?
00:51:32It's coming from above.
00:51:34I don't remember clearly.
00:51:36I don't remember.
00:51:37I'm playing in high school.
00:51:40It's awkward and annoying.
00:51:43I don't remember.
00:51:45It's an annoying point, isn't it?
00:51:47It's an annoying point.
00:51:49Wait a minute.
00:51:51Where and when did you play?
00:51:53Even if a person who played only once in high school comes, I don't remember at that time.
00:52:02It's coming from above.
00:52:04You're talking about Maezono and Masaki.
00:52:08I'm a little upset.
00:52:10I don't remember.
00:52:12It's an annoying point.
00:52:14It's coming from above.
00:52:16It's an annoying point.
00:52:18It's coming from above.
00:52:20I don't remember.
00:52:22There are a lot of it.
00:52:24It's NG to wear a hoodie at work.
00:52:28Various voices to the hoodie man.
00:52:31Various voices to the hoodie man.
00:52:34What's been going on on social media since the end of last year?
00:52:39Hoodie man argument.
00:52:42I'll let you wear it.
00:52:45How about wearing a hoodie with a hood as an adult with a good age?
00:52:54I don't wear a hoodie at work.
00:52:56I don't consult or do business wearing a hoodie.
00:52:59Various opinions such as how old you are, but you can wear what you like.
00:53:05What do you think about wearing a hoodie at work?
00:53:11It's a hot topic.
00:53:13Hoodie man.
00:53:15It's a hoodie.
00:53:18It's a hoodie.
00:53:21It's a hoodie.
00:53:23It's a hoodie.
00:53:25It's a hoodie.
00:53:27It's a hoodie.
00:53:29It's a hoodie.
00:53:31It's a hoodie.
00:53:33It's a hoodie.
00:53:35There are a lot of young people wearing a hoodie.
00:53:37I heard from a Osaka colleague that it's popular to wear a hoodie with a uniform.
00:53:42It's a hoodie.
00:53:47It's a hoodie.
00:53:49It's a hoodie.
00:53:51It's a jacket.
00:53:54It's fashionable.
00:53:57There aren't many people wearing a jacket.
00:54:00It's a jacket, but people who wear a hoodie have a fierce image.
00:54:06I understand.
00:54:08That's a bad image.
00:54:10It's a bad image.
00:54:12When I was young, people didn't wear a hoodie,
00:54:20I heard it's called a hoodie.
00:54:22it's not a hoodie.
00:54:24It's a hoodie.
00:54:26Hoodie?
00:54:28I don't like that kind of stuff.
00:54:30It's a ghost.
00:54:32I just said it's an outerwear.
00:54:34That was close.
00:54:36You should have said it's Eurozone.
00:54:38It's a jumper.
00:54:40It's a jumper.
00:54:42You said it's an outerwear.
00:54:44You said it's a hoodie.
00:54:46Don't you think it's a little rough?
00:54:48Did you do it on purpose?
00:54:50I thought you said it's an outerwear.
00:54:52Yes, I did.
00:54:54A T-shirt is a cut-sweat shirt.
00:54:58You can tell it's a T-shirt.
00:55:00People around me tend to think
00:55:02that it's a cut-sweat shirt.
00:55:04I call my team a cut-sweat team.
00:55:06I'm the only one who
00:55:08wears a cut-sweat t-shirt.
00:55:10I hate it when someone
00:55:12wears a cut-sweat t-shirt.
00:55:14You'll be exposed.
00:55:16You will be exposed.
00:55:18You'll be in big trouble.
00:55:20I was trying to cover my face!
00:55:22Don't look at me when you're doing the cut!
00:55:24I can see it now.
00:55:25I'm still wearing those pants.
00:55:28Not those pants.
00:55:29Yeah, those pants.
00:55:31Those pants.
00:55:32So, first you were wearing those pants,
00:55:36then you got mixed up and got into a weird mood.
00:55:39Do you have anything you don't wear anymore?
00:55:43I don't wear clothes anymore.
00:55:45Has it changed a lot since you started wearing clothes?
00:55:48The length of the skirt and the camisole that was popular a long time ago, I would never wear it again.
00:55:55I wouldn't wear it on my arms anymore.
00:55:59For men, the one with the glitter.
00:56:04I wore it for a while, but I couldn't wear it anymore.
00:56:08What's glitter?
00:56:11It's like Swarovski.
00:56:15It's glittery.
00:56:18Imaga-san and Shinagawa-san wore it a lot.
00:56:21These two.
00:56:23They wore it.
00:56:24Isn't there more?
00:56:26Isn't there more glitter?
00:56:29What do you mean?
00:56:31Isn't there more glitter when you go to a store?
00:56:35I think I can't wear it at the end.
00:56:38I can't wear it.
00:56:40You can't wear it later.
00:56:43Breakdenim also has holes in it.
00:56:47When you get older, you look old-fashioned.
00:56:52Don't you think so?
00:56:54I can't wear it anymore.
00:56:56At first, the more holes I had, the more I wore it.
00:57:01When it wasn't sold that much, I cut it myself.
00:57:09I cut it and sewed it like this.
00:57:12It's like leaving a horizontal thread and a vertical thread.
00:57:16That's right.
00:57:19After I got older, I didn't wear sandals that much.
00:57:23In the past, when I went out to eat, I wore sandals.
00:57:27Now I don't wear sandals.
00:57:30I was embarrassed to wear sandals.
00:57:33In the past, Hamada-san was very angry when he went to the TV station in the summer.
00:57:41TV recording with sandals.
00:57:43When I was young, I didn't wear sandals.
00:57:48Even before the show?
00:57:49Even before the show.
00:57:51Now that I'm older, I don't wear sandals.
00:58:00At that time, I didn't think so.
00:58:02Now that I'm older, I think I'm right.
00:58:07Now that I'm older, I think I'm right.
00:58:09In the past, there were a lot of people who wore sandals.
00:58:16I was angry when Hamada-san was angry.
00:58:21I was angry when I was recording in Okinawa.
00:58:24When I was recording in Okinawa, I was angry.
00:58:27I was angry at the sandal area.
00:58:29It was the only place where I was allowed to wear sandals.
00:58:31It was the only place where I was allowed to wear sandals.
00:58:35It was the only place where I was allowed to wear sandals.
00:58:37I was angry when I was recording in Okinawa.
00:58:40Now that I'm older, I think Hamada-san is right.
00:58:45I think Hamada-san is right.
00:58:47I think Hamada-san is right.
00:58:53How was it, Toyosaki-san?
00:58:55When I appear on this show, I often hear that we have meetings in advance.
00:59:01I hear that I have a script and I'm talking to the director.
00:59:04You hear that a lot.
00:59:06I hear that a lot.
00:59:08I haven't been asked to say that in this situation.
00:59:14I haven't been asked to say that in this situation.
00:59:17I think it's a good program where we can talk about what we like.
00:59:23I think it's a good program where we can talk about what we like.
00:59:24Oh
00:59:54No