👉 Fabián Peláez fue liberado tras ser acusado de retener a una mujer contra su voluntad y supuestamente suministrarle drogas. La mujer que era pareja del médico, se arrojó de un balcón en un departamento de alquiler temporal en Palermo en circunstancias aún no esclarecidas.
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00:00Surgeon Fabian Pelaez, the man who was with a woman
00:06when she hanged herself from a balcony here in Miseto,
00:09at 5900 in Palermo,
00:11and denounced him for improper detention,
00:16for alleged attempt to prostitute her.
00:20The truth is that he regains his freedom,
00:23but, attention, the surgeon is complicated,
00:27because for justice, everything that happened in that apartment
00:31is his responsibility as a doctor
00:35for allegedly supplying drugs to a person in psychiatric treatment,
00:42who was his partner, who is his partner,
00:44and who ends up hanging himself from the apartment.
00:48We already have Dr. Diego Carbone on the line,
00:51who is a lawyer for the plastic surgeon who has regained freedom.
00:55Dr. Carbone, good afternoon, thank you for this contact.
00:59Thank you very much, good afternoon.
01:01Well, doctor, we understand that some limitations have been set,
01:06for example, he cannot travel outside the country.
01:09What did you consider?
01:11Because here there was some discrepancy, I understand,
01:14between the will of what the prosecutor intended,
01:16that he wanted him to remain in prison,
01:18and what the judge ended up dictating.
01:21What did you put in favor of him?
01:23The very statement of the alleged victim?
01:26Yes, let's see.
01:27First, I only wanted to make some clarifications
01:32that I think are important from the presentation of the note.
01:36Obviously, today we are going through a criminal process,
01:39but, first of all, we must not lose sight of the fact
01:45that what we are actually seeing is a mental health issue.
01:48A mental health issue linked to the consumption of narcotics,
01:51because we can't even talk about addictions.
01:55And in that framework, a fact was produced.
01:59I also want to clarify that there was no complaint,
02:02as was just mentioned.
02:04There was simply an episode in the framework of an outbreak
02:09for an abusive consumption of narcotic substances
02:13with a basic psychiatric picture
02:17that led a person in that state, in that context,
02:20to make manifestations that were received in a criminal cause.
02:25And, logically, with great seriousness,
02:27the prosecution of the court investigated
02:30to see if those elements that had been said in that context,
02:33in that picture, corresponded with reality.
02:36Okay, the clarification is valid.
02:37Make the clarification yourself.
02:38Let me also tell you something,
02:40then, depending on what you are exposing.
02:42Yes, there was no one who went to a prosecution,
02:45to a police station to make a complaint,
02:47but there was someone who jumped off a balcony
02:50on a very busy avenue in the city of Buenos Aires
02:52with a state of excitement,
02:54and when they ask him what's wrong,
02:56in addition to being hurt and fractured,
02:58he tells what he tells.
02:59There we come, I think, to a point of coincidence.
03:02He did not make a complaint, but yes,
03:04the truth is that it is not usual for an episode of these characteristics, doctor.
03:08Of course, it is not usual for a healthy person to do what he did.
03:12And that, those sayings,
03:13need that after a period of detoxification,
03:16make a statement being in full use of his faculties, that person.
03:20That is the deadline that the judge and the justice,
03:23Dr. Capuchetti, in charge of the trial,
03:26is the deadline in which he waited
03:28for this person to be detoxified
03:31and in a condition to declare,
03:32which happened just yesterday.
03:34Yes, let's say, doctor, excuse me,
03:36let's say that the cover is not related to the treatment of people,
03:39which is what he had said,
03:40but if it is with the supply of narcotics,
03:42if facilitating the woman the place to consume.
03:47I mean, it seems irresponsible from the doctor
03:50to supply drugs to a woman in psychiatric treatment, right?
03:54Well, that's why I'm explaining to you.
03:56And that's what is being investigated.
03:58That's why I'm explaining to you.
04:00What is being tried to elucidate in this instance is,
04:05and she, who is accredited,
04:07who had a health problem,
04:09the truth is that I do not want to go into
04:12because it is a very intimate issue of privacy
04:15and as I told you, it is a medical issue.
04:19That consumption was voluntary
04:21or there was interference of third parties in that decision
04:25or if someone could or could not have the ability to prevent consumption.
04:31But, excuse me, Carbone,
04:33the doctor in his statement commented
04:36that he is the one who ends up giving the substance,
04:39does not buy it, does not get it.
04:41No, no, no, no, no.
04:43Does she get it?
04:44No, that's not what he said.
04:45Sorry, I don't know who I'm talking to.
04:47Pablo Ponsones.
04:48What is it, Diego?
04:50How are you?
04:51Look, it's not what she said in her statement
04:55and it's not what the doctor said,
04:57that is, her partner.
04:58Did she consume on her own, doctor?
05:01She consumed on her own,
05:03she had psychiatric medication that she consumed on her own
05:06and she had a prescription not to combine
05:08and she said she made the decision to do it
05:11and even said that the purchase of the substance
05:15that was found and that she had consumed
05:17and that was kidnapped in the place
05:19she did it in the bathroom of a boliche with her own money.
05:22That's what she said in the statement.
05:24Doctor, there is a very asymmetric relationship here
05:29in terms of...
05:30Sorry, in relation to the above, I want to add something else.
05:34We are talking about adult people
05:37and who have autonomy of their body and their will.
05:40No, it is seen that no.
05:41And one can share or not the decision of every human being.
05:44No, it is seen that no, because she hangs from a balcony
05:46putting her own life in danger,
05:48putting the lives of third parties in danger.
05:50I mean, the woman ended up in the middle of the street.
05:54It is seen that they cannot handle the situation
05:56in which they were going through
05:58for the consumption of substances or for the psychiatric problem.
06:01They are two different stages of the exercise of freedom.
06:04An adult person, whether male or female,
06:07in Argentina, in the intimacy of their relationship,
06:12can validly make the decision to consume narcotics.
06:17Yes.
06:18Outside of all moral judgment of that.
06:20Yes, yes, of course.
06:21And obviously, the one who is with her, accompanying her,
06:24must avoid that it causes harm to her body and health.
06:29Situation that when the consumption went out of hand,
06:33what the doctor and his partner wanted to avoid
06:37and what generated the betrayal that ends with his detention.
06:40When she makes a dangerous decision for herself
06:43to want to jump off a balcony,
06:45it is when he tries to stop her.
06:47Until that moment, what someone can do is very limited
06:51when he has a loved one who goes through a situation
06:55of consumption of substances that he cannot handle properly.
06:58Yes, of course.
06:59Sorry, doctor, I don't want to polemicize,
07:02but it seems like the doctor has nothing to do with this matter.
07:06It is that he has nothing to do with that matter
07:08and with the decision-making environment of any person,
07:11whether or not his partner.
07:12But if there is the statement that he consumed ...
07:14A person who is also with independent psychiatric and psychological treatment
07:20and that obviously no one can tie to an adult
07:27to make him do or stop doing something that is not good for him.
07:30Diego, sorry.
07:31It is difficult.
07:32It seems like the lady had a consumption problem
07:36and he would be a co-addict.
07:38No, no, here are two people who are consuming
07:41in the department of your representative
07:45and one thing cannot be separated from the other.
07:50It is not the first case.
07:52I say, does he not feel any responsibility for what happened?
07:57I don't know what I did with that question.
08:00If you ask me from a legal point of view,
08:02if he has any responsibility or conversely,
08:05if he has any duty to avoid consumption,
08:09I can answer you clearly that he does not have it legally.
08:12Let's put it legally and let's go to the staff in a five-year relationship.
08:16Does he feel responsible?
08:18Does he feel regret or something for what happened?
08:22That he could not take care of her?
08:23That instead of taking care of her, he suddenly consumed with her?
08:25I am not putting in the trial the personal decision to choose
08:29to drink alcohol, to consume a drug.
08:31I am referring to the fact that this is a person who is a doctor
08:35and who is consuming with a person with a psychiatric profile
08:38a substance and the woman ends up hanging from a balcony.
08:42He does not have total and permanent control
08:45of all the time what she consumes in front of him or behind him.
08:49In other words, it is very difficult to handle.
08:51It can happen to you with a son, it can happen to you with a brother,
08:54it can happen to you with any loved one where sometimes it is difficult.
08:57It can also be a matter of nudopathy, any type of addiction.
09:01Any type of addiction, yes.
09:02It is very difficult and that is why I tell you,
09:04it is very important to evaluate it from the point of view of the mental health law
09:08more than the criminal matter.
09:10You, he is, look, he is the person who pays him
09:14and insists that she undergo psychiatric treatment.
09:18His partner is the person who helps her.
09:21But in the meantime, he consumes drugs with her.
09:23Sorry?
09:24But in the meantime, he consumes drugs with her.
09:27At least this is what the statement reveals.
09:30I do not know the relationship.
09:32I cannot say if he consumes or does not consume
09:35and if he does it with her or without her.
09:37What I can tell you is that she, that day,
09:39consumed substances by individual and personal decision
09:44and that the person who accompanies her does not always have the ability
09:48to put a limit or to be able to stop.
09:51How do you do it?
09:53In what situation do you place yourself?
09:55In principle, not giving the first dose, right?
09:57A person who, being a doctor,
09:59knows that the other person is in these conditions.
10:01In principle, not sharing the first dose,
10:04not putting a limit, asking for help,
10:07not exacerbating the problem.
10:09I don't know where you get the first dose,
10:11or the second, or the third,
10:13they consumed it together or shared it.
10:15Let's see, the declaration that they consumed
10:17when they were together and above all,
10:19previously, to have relationships with other people.
10:22But we don't know if that's what happened in this case.
10:25She had an abusive consumption in large quantities of substances.
10:31I don't even know if he knew how much she had consumed
10:35or in what circumstances.
10:37You think that the consumer, usually,
10:40or the one who has an addiction problem or abusive consumption
10:43and who would not have presented any antecedent of this nature,
10:47usually knows how to do it so that the other person does not realize.
10:51Well, doctor, let's see if I can ask you.
10:54Roberto Menazoy.
10:56Let's see, you, because of how you relate it,
10:58and we don't get angry, it's a technical job.
11:00The lawyer is convinced of what he is telling us.
11:03He talks about two adult people with independent decisions,
11:06one of the other.
11:08It's not the prosecutor's point of view, right?
11:10You have to explain it to the people.
11:12The prosecutor had a position,
11:14the subrogant judge of Dr. Cappuccetti adopted another,
11:16gave the benefit of the imprisonment to his client.
11:19What does the prosecutor think?
11:21And here I go to a point that seems decisive to me,
11:24which is an asymmetric relationship.
11:26They are not in the day-to-day as you pose them as equals,
11:29because the famous place where the events begin
11:33is a temporary department, as they say now,
11:38that he rents, first to be a couple of days with his children,
11:42then his children go on trips.
11:44He encourages and facilitates that she come from San Juan.
11:47They have lived together, when they have lived together,
11:50always the one who has paid everything has been him.
11:53When he summons her here, she comes with expenses paid by him.
11:56She has an economic dependence on him.
11:58He has a son to whom he also contributes to the upbringing of that child,
12:03beyond some food quota that he has from the father of that child.
12:06You are talking about an exemplary parent.
12:09Perfect, yes, exemplary until they decide to consume.
12:12So, the prosecutor, what he really believes,
12:14that the facilitator of the situation and who buys the drug
12:18and runs with all the expenses is his client, not the lady.
12:23No, that is not what is being tried to establish,
12:26whether it is so or not, and that she already took care yesterday
12:29to clarify what is not that way.
12:31That is why the prosecutor now wants to wait for some tests
12:34that are ordered on the cell phone,
12:37take some additional testimonials.
12:40He already declared her psychiatrist and her psychologist,
12:44relevant to the professional secret,
12:46who have given a version that totally matches
12:49what my client gave in the first place,
12:52and then the victim herself explained everything
12:58that has to do with her medical problems
13:02and that are far from this hypothesis.
13:04What happens is that the cause obviously has a process
13:08and the prosecutor seems very good to me,
13:10and we cooperate with all the measures that he asked
13:13to rule out anything
13:16and really see how the facts were,
13:19but regarding the background of the matter,
13:22there is still no resolution.
13:24Very well, we wish that both recover.
13:27That is the most important thing.
13:29If you can seek help about it, welcome,
13:32especially because it is people who have children,
13:34who also work, are inserted in social life,
13:37and many times this can be a drift
13:40that we do not know where it ends.
13:42We thank you, Diego, for this contact
13:44and we continue to talk to understand
13:48all this situation that has attracted so much attention,
13:51because it is not usual, Bobby,
13:53to clearly see a woman hanging from a balcony
13:55and to say what she said.
13:56The woman now surely repented.
13:58We will see how the course of events is.