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00:00because we had this rollercoaster for league mvp and it does end up going to josh allen a very
00:07close vote here one thing that i noticed maybe i won't harp on but it was like this tight race it
00:14was like oh both guys are great options josh won it and it was a lot of victory all feel like this
00:20is a disgrace all the here fine you can have it award to go to all of a sudden a vote for josh
00:28was like an embarrassment it was the the scarlet letter which was very surprising to me when you
00:34consider that it was josh's award for so long and then you know again look i know lamar crept in but
00:42lamar only became the favorite in the market because he won you know he was first team all
00:46pro but voted by the ap lisi what did you think about josh allen actually winning the league mvp
00:51this past week i thought it was deserving and again it's not to take away from lamar jackson
00:56in that performance that he did this past year but again we talk about lamar jackson's performance
01:01last year where he solely won it because he was the number one overall seed and to to your point
01:07about josh allen's performance the games down the stretch that i i believe that hurt him to a
01:13capacity were the two games where you know against new england where i believe they won 24 21 in the
01:20game against the jets where they still won by 30 and he didn't have to do all that much and again
01:26you know when we talk about the teams that lamar beat down the stretch he stepped up i think the
01:31prime time performance is where we started to get all of the hype where he dominated houston had the
01:37the 50-yard touchdown run that counted for three touchdowns they win 31 to 2 over the texans and
01:44that really seemed to change i want to say that the media's perspective about why josh allen
01:50shouldn't win it but again both players were dynamic uh you saw a play out in terms of the
01:55playoff win josh did win and get the victory by two points but that aside we were talking about
02:01one of the best statistical performances donnie of josh allen's career and he did did it with
02:07less superstars than last year that's a dynamic season but here's also the thing that we run into
02:12trouble with mvp most valuable player means different things to different people here and i
02:16will if i take a look and say most valuable right you take josh out off the bills they don't make
02:21the playoffs to draft and shadur sanders i honestly believe that you take the ravens and sit down
02:25lamar jackson you know snoop and the boys were in the playoffs last year like i do believe they
02:29would be a functional organization so from that aspect i do give it to josh but also we get jaded
02:33sometimes what happens if the ap vote a didn't happen or they gave it to josh yeah yep yep he's
02:38the mvp of course he is the fact that that award came out after the ap voted which is why people
02:43start to get disconnected and angry how did that happen ap means you're the best quarterback why
02:47didn't you get the mvp and as i said mvp means different things to different people not just the
02:51best player at your position most valuable player to your team and to the nfl and i agree it should
02:58be josh allen at that point i would have been upset if it was lamar jackson i'm not upset that
03:02he went that you know josh allen got it but for me it means different things but i just think we're
03:05jaded from our opinions after seeing the ap vote first yeah so it is a situation for me that i've
03:12i've experienced with the nba where if someone say hey kev who do you think is mvp this year right
03:18strip everything away i might have gone lamar i might right but i never would have went lamar
03:26last year and it then was bothering me that the same folks that went lamar last year
03:32under a different guideline we're now going lamar this year on a completely different guideline
03:39and i know what's interesting is josh winning it wasn't either of those situations josh was not the
03:45quarterback on the number one seed nor did josh have the best statistical season but josh had a
03:50great statistical season on a very very good football team and didn't have mega superstars
03:57around him not even guys that have the cachet like kansas city's travis kelsey right like he
04:02that was kind of the josh pathway it was a little unique in recent nfl history we don't see the
04:07award the win it won the way that josh did win it it is a rarity i have no problem i again maybe
04:14would have gone with josh i just thought it was so fascinating to watch the how it's given out
04:19aspect of it flipped i think the biggest takeaway is they released mvp odds for next year before the
04:29award was given out with lamar as a favorite and that surprised me because i thought lamar was
04:34going to win and if had lamar won mvp i would have been he was no chance he wins it again we're not
04:39about to give this guy four i don't care you have to go unbeaten right now lamar absolutely should
04:46be the favorite to win leagues mvp next year because he can do things statistically that most
04:52can't they are very efficient they blow teams out i feel in some capacity them being the 3c this
04:59past season was a down year if it since it was a full year with lamar jackson fully healthy i have
05:05no qualms no issues with at all with him being booked as the mvp favorite other awards right
05:15kevin o'connell became an interesting one because him being the coach of the year favorite made all
05:23the sense in the world and then the week 18 lost to detroit i i don't know if it was both of you
05:29i think kind of like not my coach of the year right with with o'connell it was too far gone at that
05:35point but then the loss to the rams which doesn't factor in made it worse in any way do you feel
05:44that at some point coach of the year may actually go to someone that people actually think is the
05:52best nobody thinks kevin o'connell is good nobody thinks he's the best coach in football do you
05:57think we're ever going to look at that market and go oh look the favorites andy reed as opposed to
06:05who got hired this offseason kellen moore in new orleans whatever it might be yeah it that is i
06:11want to say the one award market that you really scratch your head about and i'll say this again
06:19i've gone look at it brian dable wins a few years ago with the new york giants right he had a win
06:26total that year of seven pete carroll had a win total of five and a half pete carroll had nine
06:32wins and took geno smith to the playoffs right i'm just saying you can make the argument that
06:37carroll should have been in the discussion you look at last year and damico ryan's what a rookie
06:43quarterback cj shroud doesn't win the award right dan quinn takes a losing organization that had a
06:51six win total at the start of the year what a rookie quarterback and not only takes him to the
06:57playoffs but he wins 12 games and gets to the championship i mean i don't know that that is the
07:05one the one market that you just scratch your head about i don't think kevin o'connor was deserving