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00:00ESTBS
00:04In 1932, the bubble economy collapsed and the economy plunged into a downturn.
00:08The world was engulfed in a state of stagnation.
00:11In the world of soccer, the Star Corps emerged.
00:13It excited the whole of Japan.
00:15This is...
00:17Verdi.
00:19In 1993, the first professional soccer league in Japan, the J-League,
00:24started with 10 teams.
00:28Among them, star players such as King Kaz, Ramos, Takeda, and Kitazawa
00:34had a big presence.
00:37This is Verdi.
00:39The opening game was held at the National Stadium,
00:42and the ratings were over 30%.
00:45It was a team that represented the J-League boom,
00:49led by TV, magazines, commercials, and the media.
00:54Outside the pitch, it was full of bubbles.
00:58It was a flashy way to play.
01:00Fashion became a hot topic.
01:03It's like a disco.
01:05It would be great to have a disco with soccer players.
01:07But if there's a flyer at the beginning, it's Tsunami-san.
01:09No, that's not true.
01:11Tonight's event is a rally of Verdi officials.
01:14Now, the door to space opens.
01:18Tsunami-san
01:22The backstage of the rally.
01:29The first player is Nobuhiro Takeda,
01:31a striker representing Japan.
01:39The second player is Satoshi Tsunami,
01:41a left-back who played for Verdi for 15 years.
01:47Nice to meet you.
01:49The third player is Matsuki Asutaro,
01:51who played for Verdi in 1993 and 1990.
01:55Nice to meet you.
01:59The third player is Teruyuki Tsuchida,
02:01a J-League supporter representing Japan.
02:06Tsuchida-san, are you a Verdi supporter?
02:09No, I'm a fan.
02:12I love red.
02:15I was an elementary school student in 1993,
02:17but I don't remember watching soccer on TV.
02:21I didn't watch it on TV.
02:24But when I joined the J-League,
02:26I remembered it when I was in soccer class.
02:29There was a time when I only played soccer.
02:31I played every game.
02:34Before the sudden soccer boom,
02:37what was the situation of Japanese soccer?
02:42When I was a student,
02:44there was no professional soccer team.
02:46Soccer was the most popular sport among high school students.
02:51So many high school students went to college
02:54and got a job at a company to quit soccer.
02:58They quit because there was no professional soccer team.
03:01It was a team of professionals.
03:03That's right.
03:05How many players were there in the J-League?
03:08It was terrible.
03:11I joined the J-League when I was 18 years old.
03:14I started playing soccer with Matsuzaki.
03:16I made my debut in a professional soccer team called Shin-Nittetsu.
03:20It's a ground in a factory called Shin-Nittetsu Yahata in northern Kyushu.
03:25Yahata Steel.
03:27I rented a ground in a steel factory.
03:30Is that a stadium?
03:32It's a stadium.
03:34It's a ground in Fukuri High School.
03:36I used it in the J-League.
03:39There weren't many people going to Yahata.
03:43There were six employees in the steel factory.
03:45They watched the game with me while eating lunch.
03:47I was so nervous that I made a mistake.
03:49You made a mistake.
03:51I graduated from high school and got a job at Shizuoka Daiichi TV.
03:55I went to Yomiuri Club.
03:57At first, I lived with my brother at Rokujo Hitomani in Tokyo.
04:01I was on the train.
04:03I called the Tokyo station of Shizuoka Daiichi TV for two hours in the morning.
04:07I practiced at Yomiuri Club on the train.
04:09I lived in Rokujo Hitomani.
04:11At first, I got a salary from the company.
04:13I got about 200,000 yen from the company.
04:15It was a time like that.
04:17Matsuki-san and Tsunayomi-san were there.
04:19It was a good salary.
04:21It was a high salary.
04:23I got a salary from two companies.
04:26I participated in the championship when I was in the first year of high school.
04:29I was the 10th in the first year of high school.
04:31I didn't care much because I was in good shape.
04:34I was a star.
04:36It was about 60,000 yen.
04:38It was a time when there were no professionals.
04:40My parents kept telling me to stop playing soccer.
04:42There are many people who can't keep playing soccer.
04:44I quit playing soccer.
04:4660,000 yen is a lot of money.
04:48I worked part-time at a coffee shop.
04:50My father ran a coffee shop.
04:52Yomiuri Club is famous for BELDI.
04:55That's right.
04:57Everyone admires BELDI and Yomiuri Club.
05:00The soccer they play is spectacular.
05:04In the first place, Japanese soccer is played by a person named Klammer.
05:07He was the director of the Japanese team.
05:09At that time, Curve was also a player.
05:12The J-League is a model for West Germany.
05:15BELDI was a team from Brazil.
05:18It was the only team in South America.
05:22It was very strong.
05:24I made it.
05:26What is it?
05:27I made it.
05:29Couldn't you make it bigger?
05:31The J-League was held in Japan for 27 years.
05:34I made the J-League.
05:36This is the year of the J-League.
05:38Before the J-League was held, BELDI was in green.
05:40Yomiuri Club was in blue.
05:42Nissan was in blue.
05:44Before the J-League was held, BELDI, NISSAN, and NISSAN were in blue.
05:46That's how the J-League was made.
05:48Yomiuri and Nissan were in the same team for about 10 years.
05:51There were two teams.
05:53That's how the J-League was made.
05:55That's how the J-League was made.
05:57That's how the J-League was made.
06:00That is how the J-League was created.
06:08He was shaking his hands a lot.
06:11He was intricate.
06:13He had his line written in pink, which is incredible.
06:16He had his line written in pink, which is incredible.
06:19He was incredible.
06:21Meanwhile, the J-League was announced in 1991.
06:28How did the world react to the fact that soccer was still not well-known in Japan?
06:35My biggest dream was the World Cup.
06:38To get to the World Cup, I had to be able to play in a professional league.
06:42But when it was announced that I could play in a professional league, I was like,
06:45is this for real?
06:47I made it, but will there be any spectators?
06:50Originally, you could play in a professional league in a region where there was no soccer at all.
06:56I think the influence of not knowing soccer at all was quite big.
07:00It was big.
07:02In Tokyo and Shizuoka, there were many people who understood soccer.
07:10But before the J.League started, there were many regions that didn't know what soccer was.
07:17Kashima was the most surprising.
07:19Kashima.
07:20Sumitomo Kinzoku was in the second division.
07:22J.League didn't think that Sumitomo Kinzoku would play in the J.League.
07:33Kashima is a strong team, isn't it?
07:35No, but it was in the second division.
07:38At that time, Mr. Saburo Kawabuchi said,
07:40if you're going to make a stadium with a roof, you can think about it.
07:43I really made a stadium with a roof.
07:45It was a regional contribution.
07:47It was the intention of the J.League.
07:50At that time, Kashima was the best team for that.
07:54How did you feel when you became a professional?
07:57We didn't have a lot of money, but the Brazilian team was very competitive.
08:04We were a little more professional than other clubs and teams.
08:09The flow of the J.League didn't change much.
08:14What we were doing.
08:16Suddenly, everything around us changed.
08:19The world is a bubble, but what you're doing doesn't change.
08:23It's like the world has changed on its own.
08:26Mr. Dekawa, who has never been popular, suddenly became popular.
08:29I see.
08:30I don't understand.
08:31He's the same age as me, but he's always falling.
08:34I don't know what's going on, but he's the number one man I don't want to hug.
08:37Suddenly, he's getting popular.
08:39I don't know what I'm doing.
08:41Mr. Matsuki was the first coach to be appointed while the J.League was approaching its opening.
08:47Why was he chosen?
08:49How many years ago was this?
08:5130 years ago?
08:52Mr. Matsuki was about 36 years old.
08:5435 years old.
08:55That's amazing.
08:56You did a good job.
08:57You did a good job.
08:59At that time, I thought it would be better to quit no matter who I asked.
09:05Were you a coach at that time?
09:07I was a coach.
09:08I was a youth coach and a top coach.
09:12I don't know.
09:14I didn't want to be a coach at all.
09:18As a player who grew up in a club, I had to repay the team.
09:28I didn't want to be a coach, but if I didn't do well as a coach, I had to quit right away.
09:34You had so many members.
09:36Of course.
09:37Think about it as a rising team.
09:39There are strong people in the team.
09:41Mr. Ramo, who is an active player, is older than Mr. Matsuki, who is a coach.
09:44It's been a few months.
09:46We were born in the same year.
09:48My dream is to grow up in the same team and become a coach.
09:53And while growing up, I thought I would be a coach at the end.
09:59I think you were a coach for a few more years.
10:03I don't know.
10:07Of course, the coach of the other team is older.
10:10Everyone is a veteran.
10:12He was the youngest coach in the J.League.
10:14So I started with a lot of determination.
10:17And the federation is a concern.
10:20How much did the federation raise from the professional level?
10:27We had about 400,000 a month.
10:30400,000 a month became 6 million a month.
10:35In the second year, it was about 20 million.
10:38Mr. Takeda said,
10:40I'm going to tell you the exact amount.
10:43At that time, there was a bubble.
10:46I thought it was about 15 million yen.
10:51But it was 50 million yen.
10:53At that time, there was Kaz.
10:55Kaz's father was an agent.
10:59My father said,
11:01I'll tell you how to sign a contract.
11:05First of all, it's about your attitude.
11:08If you get excited, you'll lose.
11:11Anyway, I put my back on the chair.
11:14No matter how much money comes out,
11:16I was told to put it in.
11:18But it was 50 million yen.
11:20I was surprised.
11:22I was really surprised.
11:25The next day, I saw the newspaper.
11:27Mr. Takeda was 80 million yen.
11:29You said it right away.
11:31When I became a professional soccer player,
11:33Professionals in Japan are baseball players.
11:36I think I was thinking about money based on professional baseball in Japan.
11:40That's right.
11:42I thought I had to think about soccer in the world.
11:45But the world was a little distorted.
11:47I felt like I was getting a lot of money.
11:49Even if you don't get money from other clubs,
11:51We have a group called Giants.
11:54I think he started with how to get money from Giants.
11:58There's a lot of money.
12:00It's all over the place.
12:02It's harder for other clubs.
12:04You're going to get that much money?
12:06It's just a way to get money.
12:08That's right.
12:10I remember in 1993 or 1994,
12:14It was a ranking of what elementary school boys wanted to be.
12:17The first place was J.League.
12:19It was the first time a baseball player had lost to a sports opponent.
12:22That's what the news said.
12:24I was a little confused.
12:26Which is more popular, baseball or soccer?
12:28A young woman was particularly interested in soccer.
12:31Suddenly, she wore a sweater with a punch perm.
12:34Everyone was dressed like Takeshi at the time of the match.
12:37Baseball players are getting more and more fashionable.
12:41With high expectations,
12:44On May 15, 1993,
12:47J.League finally opened.
12:50Playback of the legendary opening match.
12:53Shoot!
12:55He's got a lot of money in his heart.
12:58He's always showing off.
13:00It's like a disco.
13:02It's like a soccer club disco.
13:04At the end of the double,
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15:06In the distant sky
15:11The world isn't that simple.
15:15But Kyoto and you haven't changed at all.
15:22Welcome back.
15:26How's the price?
15:30Kyoto in your heart.
15:33Fukuji-en, Kyoto.
15:36What's going to happen to Hiroshi Sekiguchi?
15:39Sunday at 12 noon.
15:41May 15, 1993.
15:45The opening of the J-League.
15:48Announcing the opening of the J-League.
15:52Haruhata, the guitarist in the middle, plays his own theme song,
15:57and plays his own theme song at the opening ceremony.
16:08We're visiting Japan for the opening of the J-League.
16:12Kazuno, centering.
16:15Nakamura on the other side.
16:17Takeda!
16:19Make up your mind.
16:21He's got a stomachache.
16:24The legendary Meyer.
16:32But in the second half...
16:42He lost the game by 1-2.
16:50He's a crazy guy.
16:52Even before the game started,
16:55everyone in the class knew about the J-League.
17:00They were like, what's that?
17:03He's a soccer fan.
17:05Everyone was talking about it for half a year.
17:08But when it started,
17:10I felt like I had to watch it.
17:14It was a full house.
17:17There were 50,000 people in front of 6 people.
17:21It was the first time in my life
17:24that there was an event where the lights went out.
17:29It was a different kind of game.
17:32Some people were crying,
17:34and Takeda was nodding his head.
17:37He was crying and nodding his head.
17:39He's been nodding his head more than ever.
17:41He's been nodding his head more than ever.
17:44Everyone was avoiding him.
17:46He likes to stand out.
17:48It's like he's floating.
17:50It's like he's floating about 10 cm above the ground.
17:53What I wanted to tell Matsuki was
17:55that it's important to be a member of the opening team.
17:58Until the day before the game,
18:00it was decided if Matsuki was going to be a two-top player or not.
18:03I kept wondering if Matsuki was going to be a three-top player
18:06or a two-top player,
18:08or if I was going to be a starter.
18:10My feeling was that Matsuki was going to be a starter
18:13when the game started.
18:15The day before the game,
18:17I was wondering if Matsuki was going to be a starter.
18:19So you didn't announce it the day before the game?
18:21No, I didn't.
18:23If you were a three-top player, you wouldn't be nodding your head.
18:26But I was going to be a starter,
18:28so I was wondering who Matsuki was going to be a starter.
18:31That's how I felt.
18:33Matsuki told me I was going to be a starter.
18:36Did you want to be a starter?
18:38I've always wanted to be a starter.
18:40I wanted to be a striker,
18:42and I wanted to play an important role.
18:44The opening match that attracted the attention of the whole of Japan
18:47recorded an average of 32.4% viewership.
18:52Since then, the number of high-viewership matches
18:55has not stopped increasing.
18:57In fact, all the top 10 matches in history were held in Verdi.
19:00It was so popular that it was overwhelming.
19:05The popularity of Verdi was amazing.
19:08Basically, Verdi fans...
19:09Only Verdi fans knew about it, right?
19:11Yes, yes.
19:12All the goods were from the same company, Category 1.
19:17I went to their shop.
19:20All the Verdi goods were sold out.
19:23There were so many in a row.
19:26That's a relief.
19:28That's a relief.
19:29At that time, my girlfriend was a Verdi fan.
19:32What was it like to be popular in the back?
19:34It was hot in the back.
19:36You had the image that you were always popular in your hometown.
19:38I think it hasn't changed.
19:39It was always hot.
19:41Even when it was not a boom,
19:44I think it hasn't changed.
19:46It's always hot.
19:48It was the most popular in the first year.
19:51I won the championship because I overcame humiliation.
19:54Anyway, I only felt humiliation.
19:57That's why I've always been popular.
20:00I was 4th place in the Navisco Cup last year.
20:04That's right.
20:06I don't think Verdi fans know that.
20:10I didn't know that.
20:12I think other teams' players are excited about the Verdi match.
20:16I'm sure they're excited.
20:18They're excited because they're getting paid.
20:21They're excited because they're always popular.
20:23I think they're aware that they're popular.
20:26At that time, the booing was the loudest.
20:30Verdi, Nomuhiro Takeda, Kazuyoshi Miura, boo!
20:34It's a team from Shizuoka, right?
20:36Yes, it's a team from Shizuoka.
20:38It's a team from Shizuoka, but it's a great team.
20:41As a professional player, the overall level of the team rises.
20:44It's easy to understand.
20:46The team is popular.
20:48When the consciousness of other teams changes,
20:50the team's condition changes.
20:52The person who was fat gets thinner.
20:55Who was fat?
20:57There was a player named Ono in Sumitomo Kinzoku.
21:00He was famous for his love of alcohol.
21:03He was good at drinking, but in 1992, he became slim.
21:06He suddenly became good and became a representative.
21:09That's true.
21:11I was surprised.
21:12I didn't know Ono was that good.
21:14I thought it was a big deal.
21:16He changed people.
21:18We didn't have any advantages.
21:20It's not only the attention, but also the responsibility.
21:23When the league started,
21:25Matsuki had a hard time.
21:29At that time, there was only one match every three days.
21:32People couldn't prepare.
21:34If you get injured, you're out.
21:37You don't know soccer.
21:39You can't play soccer.
21:41There are Wednesdays and Saturdays.
21:44You can't get tired.
21:46You can't run.
21:48You can only prepare.
21:50If you move, you only have one day.
21:52It's a baseball country.
21:55Baseball is played every day.
21:58I thought I could play soccer.
22:01It's been a long time.
22:03It's only once a week.
22:05It's been a long time.
22:07At that time, Verdi was a symbol.
22:10The superstar of the soccer world, King Kaz.
22:15What does Kaz mean to Verdi and the OBs?
22:19I'll show you Kaz's amazing part.
22:23First of all, it's the result.
22:25This is Kaz's number.
22:27Look at this.
22:2993-94.
22:31Here.
22:3336-20.
22:3522-16.
22:3626-23.
22:3827-23.
22:40It's a comparison with Takeda.
22:43111 games.
22:45Here.
22:47He scored 82 points in 111 games.
22:49It's amazing that he got the result.
22:53It's amazing that he scored 82 points in 111 games.
22:58If you don't get the result, you can't play well.
23:02He was the representative.
23:04He really scored a goal.
23:06He is the second-highest player in history.
23:08It's because of Kaz.
23:10If he made a mistake once, he couldn't play for 5 games.
23:13If he missed the decisive chance,
23:15there would be more and more good players.
23:17If Kaz made a mistake 10 times, he would score 10 times.
23:19That's the probability.
23:21There are many games.
23:23In the first half, I was losing by 0-0 or 0-1.
23:28I told Kaz that I would definitely score a goal in the second half.
23:33I wanted to make my team win.
23:36I wanted to make my team play well.
23:40I wanted to make my team play well.
23:43I wanted to make my team play well.
23:45I wanted to make my team play well.
23:47I won many games by 0-1 or 1-0.
23:52Some people might think that Verdi is an offensive player,
23:54but he is a defender.
23:56He is a defender.
23:58He is a defender.
24:00He is a defender.
24:02He made a score by stepping on the defender.
24:06He taught him how to play.
24:09He taught him how to play.
24:11He taught him how to play.
24:13He taught him how to play.
24:16He is a good example.
24:19They were all soccer players.
24:22They were serious about soccer.
24:25On the other hand, when you think about the players of Verdi at that time,
24:29you can imagine that they played all night long.
24:35What kind of life did they have?
24:40I've already made this.
24:42What kind of schedule is that?
24:44They were all in a disco.
24:45Soccer players go to discos.
24:47We have more years here.
24:49We have Jleague on the left.
24:50We have Jleague and Disco from the Japanese League.
24:51Do you know how many years they were in discos?
24:52Look at the bottom.
24:53It's the same time here.
24:54This is the 1980s, when Maharaja came to Japan.
24:55And this is the Jureana era.
24:57This is the disco era.
24:58And the Jleague era.
24:59Can you see?
25:00This is the jleague era from the Japanese League.
25:01They were just overlapping.
25:02This is the end of the doubles together.
25:04That's why in the Jleague era from the Japanese League,
25:07And that's why we have the 80th anniversary of Maharaja,
25:09and the Jleague era from the 80s.
25:10And this is the disco era.
25:12In the Jleague era,
25:13and disco was the image, but it wasn't limited to soccer players.
25:16Everyone went there.
25:17It was the era of disco.
25:19So it wasn't just you.
25:20Yes, it was that era.
25:22When we all went out to play, we'd gather at Harajuku's Tacos El Amigo
25:25and go to Aoyama King & Don, or go to Juliana Tokyo.
25:29That was the era.
25:30The world was playing like that.
25:31But in today's theory, if you ask if all the other soccer players were like that,
25:35it's not like that.
25:36Then it becomes a problem for Takeda.
25:39When the game is over, do you split up like a faction?
25:43Kaz and I don't really go together.
25:46We both like karaoke, but we have different hobbies.
25:50Matsuki-san and Ramos-san have been going to the same place for a long time,
25:54and I've always admired them.
25:56They always took me there.
25:58I was more of a Sochi fan.
25:59Kaz-san, you had the image that Kitazawa-san would go with you.
26:02I've been to Sochi, too.
26:04What about you, Takeda-san?
26:05I usually make a reservation at the store and call the number of people.
26:09I'll go to 20 people from now on, so please make a reservation.
26:11Then I'll take them there.
26:13After that, I'll go to karaoke.
26:15Then I'll call the karaoke shop and tell them I'm going there.
26:17Of course, Ramos-san will go, but I'll also go to Kaz-san's place.
26:20Both of us are like volunteers.
26:24You have to be strong.
26:26That's hard.
26:27Matsukaze-san is the head of the club,
26:29so I'll be watching my seniors from behind.
26:31That's true.
26:32I've heard a lot about soccer from Takeda-san,
26:35but I don't know what kind of model he was at the time.
26:37But Tsunami-san was the first one to be born on Friday.
26:41I'm sorry to say this,
26:43but Maezono-kun has a tradition.
26:45It's a tradition.
26:47When baseball players did that,
26:51I felt like I was being scolded.
26:54I wasn't scolded.
26:56But when it comes to soccer players, it was a bit open.
26:58When I was a kid, I didn't think it was a bad thing.
27:00I thought it was cool.
27:02It was open, but if you didn't do it on the field,
27:05Ramos-san was strict.
27:07He told me to do my job well.
27:09Soccer is serious.
27:11Really serious.
27:12All the baseball players are serious.
27:14That's why Berdy is strong.
27:16When we play, we all play together,
27:18and when we practice, we play really hard.
27:20It's good for communication, too.
27:22Not only did he have a flashy way of playing,
27:24but also his fashion.
27:26He also captured the heart of the fans
27:28with his gorgeousness that other athletes don't have.
27:32He's so cool.
27:34What makes a soccer player look fashionable?
27:37Soccer players wear suits.
27:39Italian-style suits.
27:43Do they wear suits?
27:45Long hair suits, too.
27:46Kitazawa-san and Okano-san, too.
27:49They all have their own way of dressing.
27:52Kitazawa-san and Okano-san,
27:54they tied their hair up.
27:56They raised and lowered their pants.
27:58They all wore different styles.
28:00Takeda Tomohiro wore an Emporio Armani,
28:02Miura Kazushi wore a Giorgio Armani,
28:04Ramos-san wore a Missoni or a Versace.
28:06They all wore the same style.
28:08Porsche or Opel.
28:09Do they get angry if you wear the same style?
28:11It's not about wearing the same style,
28:13but it's about the style.
28:15When I went to see a perfume,
28:17Kawasaki-san was wearing a Santa Maria Novella,
28:19an Italian perfume.
28:21You were particular about your car, right?
28:23I was in charge of the car.
28:25The leader was in charge of the car.
28:27I was famous in the industry.
28:29I was in charge of the car.
28:31Matsu-san told me about it.
28:33I was in charge of the car.
28:34I think Verdi is like that,
28:36but the other teams are not like that.
28:38In that sense,
28:40being fashionable is also a professional thing.
28:42We thought that the color of Verdi
28:45was like the color of J.League.
28:47We thought that J.League was like Verdi.
28:50But if you look closely,
28:52Jeff wasn't like that.
28:54That's right.
28:55The popularity of Verdi is accelerating.
28:57The J.League boom
28:59led to the release of collaboration products by various companies.
29:04A hit product that symbolizes the boom was also born.
29:13When it gets cold,
29:15it feels refreshing.
29:17When you're excited,
29:19it's refreshing.
29:21This is it.
29:24You think you're the only one, right?
29:27A long-distance bus trip,
29:29a hobby movie,
29:31shopping.
29:32That's why this is it.
29:37Yawata's sawdust
29:39is harvested by hand from sawdust
29:41grown in Florida.
29:43The extract is extracted in a special way.
29:46It's condensed into a single grain.
29:49You can watch movies slowly.
29:51It's okay to go on a bus trip.
29:53I don't think it's because of my age.
29:55I'm using it vigorously.
29:57You can shop normally.
29:59It's good to be able to do
30:01ordinary things like this.
30:03It's refreshing.
30:05A bus trip, a hobby movie,
30:07shopping.
30:08Yawata's sawdust
30:10will help you.
30:12Yawata's sawdust
30:15It's a cold season.
30:17I recommend Yawata's sawdust.
30:19One bag is 2,160 yen for about a month.
30:22Now, it's 3,000 yen for 3 bags.
30:25It's on sale until the end of this month.
30:27It's a chance for both men and women.
30:29However, the first 100 people who watch now
30:31will be limited to the first time.
30:32Applications are 0120-443322.
30:36Please try it.
30:38Good job.
30:40My legs are full and it's painful.
30:43It's quite deep.
30:47I think my legs are swollen.
30:49The legs may be malignant.
30:52Men's stocking
30:54is a step-by-step pressure design
30:56to promote blood circulation
30:58and improve leg swelling.
31:00It's refreshing.
31:01I feel good.
31:02I want to go home.
31:03Men's stocking
31:05I can enjoy traveling with this.
31:08Let's buy a house in the land of longing.
31:11Friday at 9 p.m.
31:14Various collaboration products were born
31:16due to the J-League boom at that time.
31:19First, J-League curry
31:21which was released by Nagatani En.
31:24This is the commercial that became a hot topic at that time.
31:28Here you are, Masao.
31:29J-League curry.
31:30Thank you for the meal.
31:31Eat a lot and get stronger.
31:33Masao, J-League curry.
31:34Is it good?
31:35He made a great commercial.
31:40Masao.
31:42It's interesting.
31:44This is great.
31:47Here you are.
31:58I remember this very well.
32:01Masao, who was in my class,
32:02made fun of me saying J-League curry.
32:04Masao.
32:05This is a very famous commercial.
32:07I'll never forget this commercial.
32:09This commercial was made as a tribute last year.
32:12I ate this curry. It was delicious.
32:14Masao grew up.
32:16He played the role of a father.
32:19His son ate curry and became Ramos.
32:23Ramos is a family.
32:25The players in the commercial are from Belgium.
32:28For example, Kitazawa is from Gunze.
32:32I made noodles with Shiro and Shinshi.
32:36I made noodles with Maru.
32:38I made a commercial with Coca-Cola and McDonald's.
32:43That's right.
32:44The Coca-Cola commercial was filmed in Australia.
32:49He made a commercial with Coca-Cola.
32:53He is a great sponsor.
32:55Al Shindou is a great sponsor.
32:58Al Shindou is amazing.
32:59Al Shindou is great.
33:01He made a great result.
33:03His scalp had a great impact.
33:06He will become Al Shindou.
33:09Each team's mascot characters are printed.
33:12This is a J-League commercial.
33:17This is an original commercial.
33:19It started with these 10 teams.
33:21The best thing about this is that there is a Let's Lady in the middle of the stage.
33:26I didn't know that.
33:28I see.
33:29This is just a team from the north.
33:32That's right.
33:33What kind of character is this?
33:38This is a popular character.
33:41This is what Disney does.
33:43This is what fans do.
33:46This is a character that can be used in J-League.
33:50Mr. Takeda, who was popular with King Kazuto at that time.
33:56He was popular with female fans.
34:00As a result, a fan club was born.
34:04J-League was founded in 1993.
34:06I was scouted by Horipro in 1992.
34:07Is this a fan club of Mr. Takeda?
34:09That's right.
34:10Mr. Horipro created this fan club.
34:12How many members are there?
34:13I think there are quite a few.
34:15At that time, the photo book sold out in 30,000 copies.
34:18At that time, the photo book sold out in 50,000 copies.
34:21At that time, the photo book sold out in 50,000 copies.
34:24This was in May 1993.
34:27This is what it looks like.
34:29I often saw this before the game.
34:32I often saw this before the game.
34:35I was a teacher at a general magazine.
34:38Did you work with Masaharu Fukuyama?
34:40I worked with Masaharu Fukuyama at that time.
34:43Can't you walk outside?
34:46It was amazing outside.
34:48It was amazing outside.
34:49This is what it looks like.
34:52This is after practice.
34:55Everyone is waiting for the game.
34:57Director, please give this to Mr. Takeda.
35:01Please give this to Mr. Takeda.
35:03Mr. Takeda is very good at signing and writing letters.
35:10Mr. Takeda is very good at signing and writing letters.
35:12There are about 30 players.
35:14There are about 30 players.
35:17Some players went home because they wanted to play.
35:19Some players went home because they wanted to play.
35:21We taught everyone how to sign, shake hands and so on.
35:26Does that mean Mr. Takeda is a cute person?
35:28No, he's an encouraging person, so we took a lot of pictures.
35:35I can't believe he is so humane.
35:41No, it's strange.
35:44I can't believe it.
35:45I can't believe it.
35:46I haven't heard of it.
35:48I don't know how young you are, but you look like someone who's had a miscarriage.
35:53You have that image.
35:55I've never won a red card in a match.
35:58You haven't done anything.
35:59No, I haven't.
36:01While Japan was on the brink of the J-League boom,
36:04on October 28, 1993,
36:08the tragedy of Doha...
36:11Japan was on the brink of the J-League boom,
36:13and just one step away from the World Cup,
36:16Japan was on the brink of defeat.
36:20Many members were chosen by Verdi,
36:23but what was the atmosphere like right after that?
36:27Everyone was involved in that,
36:30so I was quite concerned.
36:34When the representative came back,
36:36the team's mood wasn't very good.
36:39Everyone was tired.
36:42How was it?
36:43Mentally.
36:44It was like a funeral.
36:45Yes.
36:46That was my biggest concern.
36:48I asked some of the players if they were okay.
36:51If it was okay to take a day or two off,
36:55I asked them to leave the practice room,
36:58get refreshed, and come back.
37:00That's what I told them.
37:02We had a match on October 28.
37:05After that, the J-League started on November 6th or 8th.
37:09Right after that,
37:11I lost to Doha on October 28.
37:15On November 6th or 8th,
37:17I did a hat-trick in the first round.
37:21Matsuki-san encouraged me,
37:25and I did a hat-trick in the first round.
37:30That was my last hat-trick in the J-League.
37:33You got three points.
37:35Doha-chan had a hard time.
37:36Yes, she did.
37:38She couldn't leave the practice room.
37:40She left the practice room at the end.
37:42I remember that.
37:43When Takeda came back,
37:46I remember him saying,
37:48Do you think I'm responsible for this?
37:52When the representative came back,
37:57he said,
37:58Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:00When the representative came back,
38:02he said,
38:03Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:05I think he said,
38:06Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:08I think he said,
38:09Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:11I think he said,
38:12Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:13I think he said,
38:14Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:15I think he said,
38:16Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:17I think he said,
38:18Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:19I think he said,
38:20Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:21I think he said,
38:22Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:23I think he said,
38:24Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:25I think he said,
38:26Do you think I'm responsible for this?
38:27I think he said,
38:28And then,
38:29Verdi overcame the tragedy of the Doha,
38:31and won the league.
38:33Three people were chosen for MVP,
38:35King Kaz,
38:36and Best Eleven.
38:38Verdi won many individual titles.
38:44This time,
38:45he chose a scene that symbolizes
38:47Verdi's golden era.
38:51In November 10, 1993,
38:53Verdi won with a one-on-one.
38:55Before a professional could do it,
38:57Yomiuri and Nissan.
38:59Yomiuri couldn't beat Nissan.
39:01For 7 or 8 years,
39:03he couldn't win for a long time.
39:05It's been a long time since he won a game.
39:09It's been 8 or 7 years since he won a game.
39:12At that time, he won by one point.
39:14Verdi is very strong,
39:15but he can't win against the other players.
39:18It was interesting.
39:19And he overcame it.
39:21Yes.
39:22In 1993.
39:23That's why he got a point in an important place.
39:25Mr. Takeda is proud of himself,
39:27so he wrote it down.
39:28He didn't write it down,
39:29but he asked who gave him a point.
39:31That's cool.
39:33It's an important game.
39:35It's an important game,
39:37but it's often ignored.
39:39I have to say it myself.
39:41It's history.
39:43Mr. Tsunami?
39:44I have a lot of memories of the game.
39:47When we were strong,
39:49we had a very intense solo game.
39:53I have a lot of memories.
39:55We fought a lot.
39:57It's true.
39:58We fought a lot.
40:00For example,
40:01when Mr. Dramot was in a bad condition,
40:03he crushed the players who were aiming for his position.
40:08Or,
40:09this is not a confession,
40:11when Mr. Hashiradani hit his teammate's head against Mr. Bismarck.
40:15I have a lot of memories like that.
40:17It was shocking.
40:18It's true.
40:19I was like, what is this?
40:20You overcame it.
40:21The game is easier.
40:23Mr. Dramot was a rival of Hasebe, the head coach of Frontale.
40:30When he was in the game,
40:32Hasebe was aiming for the last pass.
40:34When it was a confrontation,
40:35he said,
40:36don't aim for the last pass.
40:37Give it to me.
40:38Don't aim for the last pass.
40:40He was really on his side.
40:42He was so scared that Hasebe couldn't give him a pass.
40:45It was such a tough confrontation.
40:47It was tough on his side,
40:48but it was also tough on his teammates.
40:49It's tough to get your position in a game like that.
40:52It was tough on his teammates,
40:53but it was also tough on his teammates.
40:55It's a tradition from the time of Yomiuri Club.
40:59I didn't want to join Mr. Dramot's team.
41:02Even in the last mini-game of the season,
41:04I was nervous when I joined.
41:05When I was watching Mr. Dramot's practice,
41:07I was like, why didn't you practice?
41:09When I was watching Mr. Dramot's practice,
41:10I was like, do you want to practice or not?
41:13When Mr. Sanma was playing soccer,
41:17I was really angry when I called Mr. Dramot.
41:20I was like, why didn't you practice?
41:22Everyone is an amateur.
41:23Mr. Dramot is not related to the elementary school students.
41:26It's the same for all amateur players.
41:28If Mr. Dramot wasn't there,
41:30I think he wouldn't have been able to handle the tension and pressure.
41:34No doubt.
41:35I'm also on his side now.
41:36It was really scary.
41:37It was really scary.
41:38I was like, I can't get angry at Mr. Dramot.
41:40That's right.
41:41They're real comrades.
41:44Mr. Tsuchida.
41:45This is a famous scene.
41:47It's often used in the history of J.League.
41:50Mr. Dramot and Mr. Bismarck are lifting each other like they're playing during the game.
41:57The opponent was Reds.
42:00There was no such humiliating scene.
42:03But it really symbolizes the Berdy at that time.
42:06Even if you have a sense of play, you have a lot of seats.
42:09It's really a technique.
42:11In the end, the goal is decided.
42:12I don't remember who decided it.
42:15I decided it.
42:17How many games did you play?
42:18Six games.
42:20Six games on September 3rd.
42:22I was singing on the bench.
42:25Really?
42:26I really hate the Berdy.
42:29He won the championship the following year.
42:31He won the league twice in a row.
42:33He was the absolute king of the J.League.
42:36Nevertheless, the team went out of business.
42:40In 2005, the J.League finally became popular.
42:45Why did it go out of business?
42:49I've been waiting for three hours.
42:50I can't help it.
42:51I haven't finished loading the car in front of me yet.
42:53Please wait a little longer.
42:55It may be overloaded.
42:56By the way, I'll ask you for this, too.
42:58Hurry up.
42:59Don't you ask truck drivers for this?
43:02If I didn't have that, I'd be able to carry it with a little more room.
43:07Unreasonable demands cause accidents.
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45:19The reason why the team was closed down.
45:24I think it is because of the money.
45:28If there is no money, you can't be a good player.
45:31That's right.
45:33But even when there was money, it was getting worse.
45:37In my case, I had a good time.
45:40I had accumulated a lot of money since Yomiuri Club.
45:44I had a great sense of reality.
45:46I was able to build a clubhouse.
45:48I was able to build a strong bond with my teammates.
45:53But when I had a lot of money and built a big clubhouse,
45:57I had a conflict with the training organization.
46:00The communication has changed.
46:02People join the club more and more.
46:04When people join the club, the club invites various people.
46:08The sense of unity has become more and more difficult.
46:11The players have changed.
46:13When I joined the club, I was a coach.
46:17At that time, the atmosphere was very different.
46:21Everyone said what they wanted.
46:23I didn't want to fight for the team.
46:27I didn't want to be in this position.
46:30There were players who didn't want to be in this position.
46:32What is that?
46:34The tradition that the front manager doesn't know is gradually fading.
46:39That's right.
46:40I think the timing is related to the clubhouse.
46:44When the tradition of the clubhouse faded,
46:46I was doing a program called Verdi.
46:49You like Verdi.
46:52I was doing it for two or three years.
46:54I think it's a difficult time.
46:58As a manager, you make a good clubhouse for the sake of the players.
47:02That's right.
47:04I don't know if that's a good thing.
47:07How was the boom itself?
47:10I think it was amazing in 1993 and 1994.
47:14After that, the number of members of the boys' baseball club has increased.
47:23The popularity of baseball has returned.
47:25I felt that the popularity of soccer has decreased a little.
47:28Mr. Ichiro was also big.
47:31Mr. Ichiro won the Major League and left a record.
47:33Mr. Matsui also won the Major League.
47:36Mr. Ichiro was amazing.
47:38He won the Major League.
47:40The J-League, which was a familiar existence until now,
47:43has gradually become unstable.
47:46Overseas soccer has become popular.
47:49Until now, you couldn't see it once a year.
47:51Overseas soccer has become popular.
47:53The times have changed.
47:56Until now, the story of Verdi was familiar.
47:59It's gone.
48:01It's like an unreachable existence.
48:04I think it's because of the flow of time.
48:07Mr. Kazu went to Serie A.
48:10At that time, I learned the word Serie A for the first time in my life.
48:14It's an Italian soccer team.
48:16There is a league.
48:18That's amazing.
48:19I think that's when the name of the overseas team came into being.
48:24When Mr. Kazu went to Serie A on TV,
48:27I saw the results of the matches and the news.
48:31I thought it was amazing.
48:33AC Miller was amazing, too.
48:36Verdi also returned to J-1 after 16 years.
48:41He is still working hard to win the league.
48:45Lastly, let's talk about the future of the soccer world.
48:50When I first started, it was a boom.
48:54But after that, the boom calmed down.
48:57There are still a lot of soccer fans in the J-League.
49:02I think it's a very good league.
49:04It's also connected to the Japanese national team.
49:07Of course, I want to be active in the J-League.
49:10I want to go overseas.
49:12I want the veterans to come back.
49:14It's a culture that goes around like that.
49:18I'm looking forward to the J-League.
49:21Our generation is going to the J-League with their children.
49:27I'm sure it will come back.
49:30There are still a lot of fans there.
49:33I can feel it.
49:35J-League was established in 1993.
49:38There were 10 teams at the time, and now there are 60 teams.
49:41There are a lot of players going overseas.
49:43It's really hard to keep going.
49:46I'm doing my best.
49:49I think history and tradition are important.
49:53I think history and tradition are important in soccer.
49:56There are a lot of booms in Japan.
49:58It's like a pre-school.
50:00I think history and tradition are important.
50:03It's like a high school.
50:05I want you to do it well.
50:07This word is very effective.
50:10The team cherishes old things.
50:13It's a new word.
50:16There are a lot of clubs.
50:19The times will change, but I want you to cherish old things.
50:24That's why I'm doing this.
50:27There's a broadcast, so please watch it.
50:31It's being broadcast right now.
50:36Are you testing a new character?
50:38No, it's a new one.
50:40We haven't talked about it yet, but it's time.
50:45Thank you for your precious time today.
50:51When I go to the bottom of the back row, I'm going to play the 122nd round.
50:56Finally, the seeds of the future marked by Kazurazer.
51:01Why can't we continue to live on a fresh skin?
51:06The answer to that question is that the skin has been reborn.
51:12The power to be reborn into a new skin makes us more beautiful as we age.
51:19Otsuka Pharmaceutical's Japan's first anti-dandruff medication.
51:25Inner Signal Dijuvnate X
51:28The origin of the question is why we can't continue to live on a fresh skin.
51:36So we focused on the rebirth of the skin that is deteriorating year by year.
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52:10When I put it on, it goes in smoothly.
52:13It feels like it's getting used to my skin right away.
52:15It's like, this is good.
52:16It's not, this is good.
52:18I feel like today is better than yesterday.
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53:01When I go to watch the J.A. match,
53:04there are a lot of elderly people.
53:06When I go to the bottom of the ring,
53:10I see an old lady in a red uniform
53:12walking on the 122nd line.
53:14It's really eye-catching.
53:16There are people who wear old uniforms.
53:18That's right.
53:22Love is scary.
53:24I don't think it's scary.
53:26He's usually kind.
53:30Next Week
53:39What's going on?
53:40Next Week
53:41Mitsubishi Pencil
53:43When should we change the shop?
53:45When it was released, it didn't sell at all as planned.
53:48It's clearly different from what we've seen so far.
53:51Every Monday at 11 p.m.
53:54If you want to watch the show again,
53:56watch it on TVer.