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Now that Bambu Printers may be harder to recommend after their latest update, what 3D printer should Linus buy next? To find out we asked Jake and some other youtubers (Jeff Geerling, William Osman, and Camden Bowen) to show off their Prusa, Elegoo, and more different printers!
Discuss on the forum: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1605169-is-my-3d-printing-setup-wrong/
William’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WilliamOsman2
Jeff’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JeffGeerling
Camden’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CamdenBowen
3D Printed Props: https://youtu.be/aFXKoycw468?si=PDp5pJ3bgM7kH6nB
3D Printer Academy Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MSQsFxArYw
FauxHammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpcsXHTAt0w
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:07 Linus Bambu Setup
4:32 Jake's Dual Printer Setup
10:22 William Osman is here!
12:47 Jeff Geerling Prints upside down?
14:58 Camden Bowen Large printer! (And amazing voice)
17:42 Is Linus going to Change his Setup?
18:40 Outro
Now that Bambu Printers may be harder to recommend after their latest update, what 3D printer should Linus buy next? To find out we asked Jake and some other youtubers (Jeff Geerling, William Osman, and Camden Bowen) to show off their Prusa, Elegoo, and more different printers!
Discuss on the forum: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1605169-is-my-3d-printing-setup-wrong/
William’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WilliamOsman2
Jeff’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@JeffGeerling
Camden’s Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@CamdenBowen
3D Printed Props: https://youtu.be/aFXKoycw468?si=PDp5pJ3bgM7kH6nB
3D Printer Academy Tutorials: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MSQsFxArYw
FauxHammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpcsXHTAt0w
Hula 3D Printer Feet: https://lmg.gg/0VufQ
Filament Auto-Rewinder: https://lmg.gg/KF2Wc
Buy Cereal Containers for Filament Storage: https://geni.us/13Ssj
Buy a Prusa CORE One: https://lmg.gg/DV1Z7
Buy an ELEGOO Saturn 4 Ultra: https://lmg.gg/n6eGh
Buy a Prusa XL: https://geni.us/AKFnX
Buy an ELEGOO Neptune 3: https://lmg.gg/zeamy
Buy a Creality Space Pi Filament Dryer Plus: https://geni.us/k2uU
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
1:07 Linus Bambu Setup
4:32 Jake's Dual Printer Setup
10:22 William Osman is here!
12:47 Jeff Geerling Prints upside down?
14:58 Camden Bowen Large printer! (And amazing voice)
17:42 Is Linus going to Change his Setup?
18:40 Outro
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00:00Up until about two weeks ago, my 3D printing setup at home was frankly embarrassing.
00:05So, I sprang into action.
00:07I picked up a rack, I finally treated myself to a filament dryer, and I got everything organized to show it off to you guys.
00:13Only to have Bamboo Labs bamboozle the community by issuing an update that, in the name of security,
00:20significantly harms the functionality of these printers for a lot of their users.
00:25Now, I do still want to talk about what it's been like getting into this hobby a little bit on the later side.
00:31There have been some pitfalls that we've run into, especially in a house where kids are often the users.
00:37That's actually one of the big reasons that I chose a bamboo printer in the first place.
00:41But, now that they're altering the deal, I think we need to expand the scope of this,
00:46and look at not just my 3D printing setup, but maybe some alternatives from other members of our team if you're looking to get out.
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01:06Wow, so cool!
01:07Still, the thing that impresses me most about our bamboo setup is the incredible quality of these multicolored prints.
01:13This was a single print, right?
01:15Yeah.
01:15I still haven't printed the wings.
01:17This is amazing.
01:19Say what you want about the kind of excessive waste poops when it changes colors.
01:23The AMS system takes something that would have been incredibly complicated years ago, and makes it so simple that a child can use it.
01:29I don't know if I agree with Bamboo's assertion that setup can be done in 15 minutes.
01:33Took us a little longer than that.
01:35But it definitely took less than an hour.
01:37Once you've got it set up, the Bamboo app has pretty much everything you need.
01:40You've got a live view of the build plate.
01:41You can monitor the status of the machine, including usually meaningful error messages.
01:46You can contact support.
01:48And what the kids like best is, of course, the model library, where you can find everything from useful replacement parts to project inspiration to what they use it for most, which is a personal toy manufacturing device.
02:00Now, you guys have recently taken to painting some of your creations.
02:03This one was supposed to be AMS, so I swapped all the colors to white, and then I painted it how I wanted it.
02:12There's, like, a couple bad spots on the wings, but other than that, it's really nice.
02:16Now, the long-term goal for me, of course, is that as their ideas for how they'd like to change the models get bigger, so will their ambition to learn a little bit of modeling themselves, starting with modifying existing ones and then hopefully progressing to creating their own.
02:28Or maybe I'm just spending money on toys.
02:30Either way, honestly, they've been pretty stoked on it.
02:32Good Christmas.
02:33We also use it for useful stuff, printing cute little containers and adorable bookends.
02:38I mean, the sky's the limit.
02:39That's the beauty of it, right?
02:41And it really is so easy that an 8-year-old can use it.
02:44How do you use the 3D printer?
02:46I just open it and take out the stuff and take off their supports if they have them.
02:51Okay, is it pretty easy?
02:52Yeah.
02:52Yeah, do you have anything in there right now?
02:54Yeah.
02:54Man, support removal is something that has gotten so much better.
02:58It broke.
02:59Oh.
03:00We can show the globe.
03:01Fine.
03:03Okay, little 3D-printed jumping frogs.
03:05I don't think they're frogs.
03:08Getting to this point where even kids can use 3D printers without usually screwing things up too badly
03:13has taken a massive amount of work,
03:15and the 3D printing industry broadly deserves a ton of kudos for that,
03:19and so does Bamboo specifically, even if their reputation's kind of on the rocks right now.
03:24But that doesn't mean that I would recommend just running out and buying a 3D printer for your kids to use as a toy factory.
03:30There's a lot that I've learned over the last year.
03:32The everyday stuff is negligible.
03:34You don't really have to coat the build plate in glue and then clean it off in between prints anymore.
03:38But if you don't like managing desiccant packets in your AMS or in your filament storage,
03:43maybe a 3D printer's not for you,
03:44because too much moisture from the air in your filament will jam up your system here,
03:49here,
03:49here,
03:50and here.
03:52Ask me how I know.
03:53Also, Bamboo, if you're watching this video, I have some notes.
03:57This needs an access hatch, okay?
03:59Because these end up with filament fragments in them like freaking all the time.
04:03It'd be nice to be able to just access them like this instead of taking the whole thing apart.
04:07In fairness to Bamboo, that doesn't happen that often now that I got my filament dryer, though.
04:11This thing's been a lifesaver, because I've had even brand new rolls of filament come out of the vacuum sealed bag,
04:16jam up the machine,
04:17I throw them in here, and they're good to go.
04:19As happy as I am with my setup, though,
04:21the enthusiasts out there know that the sky is the limit when it comes to 3D printing.
04:25So, why don't we take a look at some alternative setups from other members of our team?
04:29Especially now that Bamboo Labs has become a little harder to recommend.
04:33Like this one!
04:34This is my Prusa MK4S, and it is a freaking rock star, and I would recommend it.
04:39To be honest, actually, they have a new version now that has an enclosure called the Core 1.
04:42It's kind of like the same printer, but with an enclosure, and it's almost the same price, so maybe buy that one instead.
04:47But I love this thing, and I can upgrade it to the Core 1, which is a big thing with Prusas.
04:53You might recognize this build plate if you're a Prusa fanboy.
04:56See how it says Prusa i3 MK3?
04:59This printer actually started out as a MK3, then got upgraded to a MK3S, then a MK3.9, then a MK4, and then a MK4S.
05:08Not a cost-effective route, but it was something I was able to do.
05:11I actually don't think I've had a print fail since the most recent iteration of upgrades.
05:16I also have some cool stuff for it, like the MMU3, which is Prusa's multi-material thing.
05:21It's not my favorite.
05:23I get why people like the Bamboo AMS.
05:26It's small. It's compact.
05:28It doesn't always work, but assuming that it's working, it's really nice.
05:31This thing requires this monstrosity, which is a buffer.
05:36And they use this for when it switches filaments, because it has to pull the filament back out of the way of the new filament that's getting inserted.
05:44There's cartridges, which you stick in here.
05:47Boom.
05:48And then this gives a bunch of space for that filament to get retracted into.
05:52It's just a giant void to have, like, an extra foot of filament go into.
05:57Instead of that, I 3D-printed these really cool things.
06:02They're automatic filament rewinders.
06:04So as the spool gets pulled, it has a 3D-printed spring in there that rewinds the spool.
06:11It's kind of insane, and the dude that engineered this?
06:15Some people are very intelligent.
06:18One day, I wish to be one of those people.
06:19I did do some other mods, too.
06:21It's got cool little feet.
06:22They're called hula feet.
06:23They're, like, seismic dampening feet.
06:25So they have soft 3D-printed inserts out of TPU that allow the printer to, like, kind of be seismically dampened, like a big building might.
06:35And that just kind of removes some of the artifacting that you sometimes see on the sides of 3D prints.
06:39It's all models I found online on Printables, and I just wish I didn't have to have, like, a weed grow tent for an enclosure.
06:46So I'll probably get the core one.
06:47And there's other things I don't like about this printer, specifically the Wi-Fi.
06:51I don't know what exactly went wrong, but on the Mark 4S upgrade, they made these new Wi-Fi boards that have a pass-through header for an accelerometer.
06:59That's, like, a whole story for another time.
07:01But it uses a different Wi-Fi chip, and this Wi-Fi chip sucks.
07:05I actually was like, maybe I'll just put the old Wi-Fi chip back in and see if that works.
07:09It immediately, like, solved all my problems.
07:11They even sent me a replacement one to try.
07:13No, like, screw these things.
07:14See you later.
07:16I also wish that they shipped these printers with hardened nozzles, because the hardened nozzles, not only are they good for filaments that need it, like if you're printing carbon fiber filament that destroys brass nozzles,
07:26but the hardened nozzles are usually less prone to getting stuff stuck to them, unlike the brass nozzles.
07:32So if you're printing, like, PETG, for instance, brass nozzles are a nightmare, and the hardened ones, way better.
07:38And actually, when you print lots of stuff, you usually end up with lots of filament, and this is, like, half of the filament I have.
07:43I really need to get rid of some of it, but the biggest thing here is, for newbie 3D printer people out there, get storage containers and get a filament dryer.
07:51I use this cheap Creality dry box and cereal containers with some silica gel, which you can actually reuse, just throw this in the microwave, to keep my filament dry,
08:00and that is the easiest thing you can do to make your prints more reliable, better quality, and just have a better 3D printing experience.
08:08Speaking of liquid, why don't we talk about my resin printer?
08:12I haven't done any, like, crazy modifications to this one, it's basically just off the shelf.
08:16This is the Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra.
08:19If you're not familiar with resin printers, they're very cool, because they can print incredibly detailed objects, because look at the bottom there.
08:26You see that right there? That's a UV LCD screen, which means, once you fill this vat with UV-activated resin, you can print entire layers in one shot.
08:36It'll do the whole layer, and then it breaks the seal to let resin flow back underneath, and then it prints a whole nother layer, and it just repeats and repeats.
08:43This one, I think, is a 12K resolution screen, so at, you know, that size, you're talking some insane detail if you want it, but they also have a 16K version, I think, that's coming out, or just came out, and, um...
08:55I don't even know why you would need that, because, like, this is already so accurate.
09:00It's just not as user-friendly, especially in the post-processing, because once something's done in the resin printer, your print is not done.
09:08You have more stuff you need to do.
09:10These are the other steps I'm talking about.
09:13When you're done with a resin print, you have to wash the extra resin off, and then you have to finish curing it.
09:19This is basically just a fancy platform with UV light in it, and it cures resin prints.
09:26But you have to be careful to, like, not over-cure stuff, because then it becomes super brittle.
09:30You don't want to under-cure stuff, because it can, like, get goopy, or it can have, like, weird white spots if it, like, starts to cure in the sun.
09:37It's just a whole... it's a whole thing.
09:40Especially the cleaning, because if you have normal resin, you have to clean it with isopropyl alcohol, which is what this tank has got inside of it.
09:47This is, like, a washer, and it does make it easier, but that's isopropyl alcohol, it's not water.
09:53But if you need stuff that's super accurate, for me, sometimes the car stuff that I'll 3D print needs to be, like, dimensionally perfect.
10:00And in that case, this is the only real option for me that's not $10,000 or something like this.
10:07These printers are actually pretty affordable.
10:09Honestly, having a 3D printer is, like, a superpower for car nerds.
10:13And if you're a nerd of any other category, like Warhammer or D&D, maybe you might need one too.
10:19Like these other creators and their setups.
10:21Hey, Linus Tip Techs, my name's William Osman, my channel is William Osman 2.
10:25I'm severely dehydrated.
10:27This is my 3D printing setup currently.
10:29I've used a lot of printers over the years, starting from a really, really old, original Prusa machine that was made out of wood, which made me hate 3D printing.
10:36That was, like, 2013.
10:38Things have gotten so much better since.
10:40This is the XL, this is, like, my powerhouse.
10:42Multi-material, five heads, you can print all sorts of cool stuff, like a replacement vacuum cleaner wheel that I made.
10:48And then on the inside, on the hub, I used a carbon fiber filament so that it has more wear resistance, I think.
10:54This is my favorite print I've ever done.
10:56It's an apple and a worm.
10:58It's actually TPU.
10:59I was able to print with soluble support, and then TPU, and it did it seamlessly.
11:03For single-color prints, I've been using the Prusa Mark IV.
11:07When I need really big stuff, I've used this CR-10 Max.
11:10I call it the CR-10 Maximum Crap.
11:13It's not a good printer, but it can print huge things.
11:17I made this hot sauce dispenser on the Anchormake Pro.
11:20It's got, like, 100 different hot sauces in it.
11:23One of the improvements I made is getting to the back of these machines can be a pain in the butt, so I put them on these rolling carts.
11:29In the front, there's levelers, and in the back, there's casters.
11:31So you just pick up the front, and you can slide it out, which lets you get to the back of the machine.
11:36And then under the cart, you can keep your filaments, which I put inside of five-gallon buckets with dog food lids.
11:42So you open this up, and you've got a bunch of filaments in there and stainless teabags with molecular sieve desiccant to keep it dry.
11:49You can see one of them exploded open in there, and there's little balls everywhere.
11:52My little balls. That is going to be a nightmare to clean up.
11:54I use mostly FDM printing, which is what these machines are.
11:57But Formlabs has sent me their new 4L, which I have plans for, but I haven't played with it yet.
12:02So I can't give you any recommendations on those machines.
12:04One thing I really wish the XL had is a dry box.
12:08So I'm going to look for an open-source dry box that you can put your filament rolls into that will automatically load them into the machine.
12:15Because it's a bit of a pain putting new spools on this.
12:18You've got to feed it through and then get it into the tool head.
12:21It sometimes can take quite a bit of time, especially with a flexible filament or the PVA.
12:26And a camera, too. Not having a camera on the Prusa machines is a little frustrating.
12:31I know that the new printer does have one.
12:33There have been times where I've started a print for my computer, and I come out, and it hasn't actually started.
12:37And that's a little frustrating.
12:40But once it's running...
12:43I love you, Linus TipTex. Mr. Tech. Mr. Tip.
12:47I'm Jeff Geerling, and I'm from the channel, well, Jeff Geerling.
12:50I make videos about single-board computers, homelabs, and sometimes I even do very important RF safety research with my dad.
12:57Will this insulating layer of corn protect the hot dog?
13:00This show is beautiful. Thank you so much, John.
13:03Right now, I have these three printers.
13:05A Prusa MK4, a Bamboo P1S, and a tiny upside-down Positron printer, which is currently in a bit of a mess.
13:12Sorry about that.
13:13There are so many projects I work on where a little custom case or mount is useful.
13:17I also 3D print little fixtures for devices I want to show in my videos sometimes, like this one I have for small PCI Express cards.
13:23I've also been learning CAD software so I can design my own things, like this pies dispenser that, instead of PEZ, dispenses raspberry pies.
13:31I think the most practical things I've built are all kinds of mounts for computers and network equipment for my mini racks.
13:37I'm working on moving my entire homelab into a mini rack like this one.
13:41I've used these printers for hundreds of prints now, and every printer I've used has its own little quirks.
13:45Like, the Prusa here doesn't have an enclosure, so some materials like ABS just don't work on it.
13:50And there's no built-in camera, which is a little annoying for me because I like to check on prints remotely.
13:55The Bamboo? Well, I love the hardware and the speed, plus the AMS up top lets me switch filaments without even having to be at the printer.
14:02But BambooLab's latest updates are making me nervous, so I set it to LAN only mode and blocked it from accessing the internet.
14:09But both of these two printers are my workhorses.
14:12I can turn them on remotely with these smart switches down here, and then fire off a print over my network.
14:17I've only had like one or two print failures on these two ever, and both of those were actually my fault when I was slicing the models.
14:24They're reliable, and the Prusa is actually pretty quiet, so if I'm going to be recording, I'll use it instead of the P1S.
14:30I used to have an old Creality printer at home, but I gave that to a friend.
14:34I think if I get another home printer, it'll be a Prusa.
14:36They're built like tanks, they're not that loud, and I love the community around them.
14:40And the Prusa has a wired ethernet port, which is useful if you're in a house with like a thousand wireless smart switches.
14:46As for the Positron, well, this thing is the most fun, and some people like a smaller size.
14:51But I wouldn't recommend you go in on a custom build like this, unless you really want to go full hobbyist and not just print things.
14:57Hi, I'm Camden Bowen, and a lot of my videos involve me building various types of engines, many of which involve 3D printing in some way or another.
15:07My setup is currently consisting of a Elegoo Neptune 3 and a Creality CR-10S4, both of which serve their own purpose in their own way.
15:17For all the large components, or the less critical ones, I hand those over to the CR-10S4, because it's got such a large bed size to it.
15:24But for pretty much everything else, I just use the Neptune 3.
15:28Because it's got a direct drive extruder, I found that it does a pretty good job with more difficult filaments like nylon and TPU.
15:35At least a much better job than what my CR-10 does, as that's only got a Bowden tube setup.
15:40Another thing that I really like about the Neptune 3 is that it comes pre-installed with an automatic bed leveler, making the whole printing experience, like, very turnkey.
15:49In fact, I liked it so much that I installed one on my CR-10, as trying to level a bed that is almost half a meter in length is a complete pain in the ass.
15:59Just because of the nature of my content, I'm a lot less concerned with, like, making parts with the highest resolution or the most detail.
16:06Instead, I'm always looking to make parts as strong as possible, to serve more of a functional purpose.
16:11But with the right filament, these printers actually do a pretty good job.
16:15However, there are a few things that I'm not really a big fan of.
16:19Firstly, the CR-10 is slow. Like, really slow.
16:23Which sucks, because in times where I can't use the Neptune 3, prints that would otherwise be started and finished on the same day can take up to two days of printing.
16:32I mean, you can make it a little bit faster by adding supports to increase the rigidity or just adding a direct drive extruder, but I don't have either of those.
16:42The only complaint I have about the Neptune 3 is that it's got a very strange problem.
16:46I don't know why it does it. Nobody else knows why it does it.
16:50But for whatever reason, every single time you start a new print, the Z offset value completely changes, making it so the nozzle's either way too high or crashing into the bed.
17:03Now, it's really not a big deal, since you are able to manually adjust the offset while it is printing.
17:09But it does mean that you have to hover over the printer for at least, like, a minute or so, just to make sure that it's working.
17:15Now, unless you specifically needed a larger bed, I think the overall versatility and simplicity of the Neptune 3 makes it perfect for most projects.
17:24And not to mention, the Neptune 3 is a lot more affordable, being in the same price range as the Creality Ender 3, while also being a printer that you can pretty much have up and running in only, like, half an hour.
17:37And if you ask me, that is perfect for a beginner.
17:41So then, having seen all that, is it time for me to rip out my bamboo?
17:45Not yet!
17:46But, when the time comes, wow, are there ever some inspiring setups to take things to the next level.
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