The Jeremy Kyle Show 3rd October 2018
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00:00On today's show
00:01Tara is here for make or break lie detector results
00:04with her boyfriend TJ
00:06after he went to Tesco's one morning
00:08and didn't come home for two months
00:09Was it like him to go?
00:14Yeah, but not like him to not come back
00:16You're doing a lie detector to prove
00:18in the two months while he was away
00:20you haven't cheated because he's insecure
00:22You planned it?
00:23No, no, we'd had a rail that morning anyway
00:26I was out one night
00:27As I'm passing this lady in question's home
00:30he's getting out of the taxi with us
00:31But then I found that he'd been going on to websites
00:39where you meet up with local girls
00:41in your area for sex with no signs
00:43Are you the chief?
00:45No, I'm not
00:45She says she's done if you are
00:47I'm nearly done just now
00:48Oh my God
00:49Unbelievable, man
00:52This is what you just said
00:55I heard rumours that he touched somebody's backside
00:57at a funeral
00:58Pause
00:59I didn't even know he was at a funeral
01:01I didn't confess straight away
01:03Yeah, he said I was rubbish in bed
01:05What would lead you to grope somebody's bottom
01:07at a funeral?
01:08I didn't do it
01:09Hello my friends, good morning and a big, big welcome to the show
01:29Right, my first guest today, Tara, is here for make or break lie detector results
01:32with her boyfriend TJ after he went to Tesco's one morning
01:36and didn't come home for two months
01:38This is dreadful what was written here
01:41That must be a big shop by anybody's standards
01:44Tara says she was shocked to find out that he'd run off with another woman
01:49I myself am not
01:50Anyway, however, she's taken him back
01:52and she's here to find out
01:53if in the two months from meeting her at the cash till
01:56all he did was have a kiss
01:59is what he said
01:59She says I think he might have done more
02:02Tara's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
02:05How are you?
02:10How are you?
02:11Right, right, right
02:12Um
02:14Um
02:16First of all, how long have you been with him?
02:18Eleven years on and off, six years straight, since we've had two kids together
02:22You've had two kids?
02:23Two kids together, yeah
02:24Do you love him?
02:25Yes
02:25A lot
02:26That's why I'm here today
02:27Right
02:28Cos when you read this, it doesn't look great
02:31No, no
02:31So, you've got two kids and he went to Tesco's, what did he go to Tesco's for?
02:37I don't know, he just said I'm going to Tesco
02:39Does that happen normally?
02:40And he didn't come home
02:41You seem quite balanced about it, I mean
02:44I laugh about it now, but that's cos if I don't, I'll cry
02:47That's just how it is
02:48The beginning of the relationship, he was a bit of a player
02:50There was two women on the go, you fell pregnant, you got together in quite
02:54Gave him the ultimatum when I was pregnant, you know
02:56Do what you want, if you want
02:58I'll raise a baby by myself, if not, then you settle down with me
03:01You know, grow up here, stick together, be a family
03:04So there's no way that you'd ever have had a worry at all until he went to Tesco's?
03:08Was it like him to go?
03:09Yeah
03:10Right
03:10But not like him to not come back
03:12What time did he go?
03:12Half nine in the morning
03:14Sorry, you're sat there, wait, on a serious note
03:1712 hours later, you're sitting there thinking, what the hell's going on?
03:20Did you phone the police?
03:21Are you crying your eyes out?
03:22What are you thinking?
03:23Yeah, I'm crying my eyes out
03:24I'm trying to ring him, ring him, nothing, no answer
03:26Phone's off
03:27Didn't know where he was, got two kids at home, can't go out looking, can I?
03:30I don't know, you know
03:31Were you suspicious instantly?
03:33Yeah, I had a feeling that he weren't going to come back
03:36Tell me about this woman that got out the taxi
03:39Erm, there's been something in the past with her before
03:44This was many years ago, before we had kids
03:46Erm, I was hearing accusations that he got with another girl
03:51Right
03:52Erm, I was out one night, with my friend, walking back to mine
03:56And then, as I'm passing this lady in question's home, he's getting out the taxi with her
04:02Not with her
04:03Just, you know, just got picked up from town, she was getting a taxi back
04:06Didn't you find messages as well?
04:08When we got back together, I found him a phone at home, sorted him a phone out
04:13He thought he lost his SIM card, but he didn't, I found it
04:15So, when he's popped out, he's come back and I've gone, oh, I've sorted you a phone
04:19But at the same time, I found all these messages from her, I love you too
04:23A few days later, you speak to him, and he says what, I've left you?
04:27Yeah, he just says, I can't deal with the rouse no more
04:29Erm, no, first of all, he tells the next day, after he left me, he tells me he's coming home
04:33Right
04:34He just can't deal with the rouse no more, but he's going to come back
04:36So I tell my kids he's coming home, then he doesn't
04:39So the next day, I text his SIM card to tell him he's an absolute joke
04:43Like, don't say you're going to do something, not do it
04:45Especially when I'm telling our son that you're coming home and he's waiting to see you
04:48And then he said, no, what's the joke is that we keep rowing
04:52Didn't actually tell me it's over until I had a phone call asking who's got a silver car
04:57Because he's just seen him in a car with some girl in a silver car
05:01And I knew straight away who it was
05:02So, he leaves you, in the two months you're apart, does he see the kids?
05:07Yeah
05:08Do you have sex with him at all in those two?
05:10No, no I didn't
05:11So you're finished, in your mind, it's finished?
05:14Well in my mind, I didn't, I don't know, I was hoping we weren't
05:17Well obviously not, because all he did was come back after two months
05:20God, babe, I made a mistake, I want you back and you just opened the door to him
05:23Not straight away, no
05:24No, it wasn't straight away
05:26And the temerity of the whole thing for me, the madness of this whole story
05:30Is that you're on the Jeremy car show, ready for this?
05:32You're doing a lie detector to prove in the two months while he was away
05:36You haven't cheated because he's insecure
05:38Tell him to shove it where the sun don't shine
05:41What do you make?
05:44I'm putting up the accusations
05:46Is he doing a lie detector?
05:48He's told me he's, yeah, he's passionately kissed her
05:51And there was some sexual contacts
05:53Now you're not stupid, are you?
05:54What does that mean?
05:55Oh, he's passionately kissed her
05:56Two months
05:57Sexual contacts, but apparently there's been no sexual in the course
05:59But I don't see how you can share a bed with a girl for two months
06:02Tell her you love her and not have sexual intercourse
06:04Especially if you love her
06:06How can you love her if you don't even have sexual intercourse with her?
06:08And what if he has had sexual intercourse?
06:10Then I don't know
06:11He likes a lot of sex, does he?
06:12Yeah
06:13How often?
06:14We have good sex
06:15Do you?
06:16Yeah, we do
06:17What is good sex?
06:18Great sex
06:19So you think in the two months he was away
06:22He was having great sex with somebody else?
06:24I hope not
06:25Safe sex, there you are
06:26STIs, everything in your head
06:28Just everything
06:29So there's more to
06:31Oh, I'll have to think about it if he has failed
06:33Yeah
06:34What about you?
06:35Me?
06:36When he was away, were you lonely?
06:37Yeah, I was lonely
06:38I wanted him back
06:39I didn't once think about another man
06:40That's because I loved him
06:41He said you had men going in and out the back of your house
06:43In and out the back
06:44No, I didn't have men going in and out the back of my house
06:46Yes, I had a few friends around
06:47Yes, one was before I got with TJ
06:50He knew that before he got with me and had kids anyway
06:52That I'd been with this person in question
06:54But nothing happened
06:56He'd come round for a few drinks
06:57We were actually talking about him
06:58And him leaving me
07:00You're completely in love with this guy, aren't you?
07:02Yeah, I am, yeah
07:03I moved in with another woman
07:07But I promise you, Jeremy Kyle
07:09I didn't have sex with her
07:10TJ's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
07:22Great sex, apparently
07:24Always
07:25Why?
07:26Because I love her, don't I?
07:27Why did you leave her then?
07:28Too much rails going on
07:30Things happening
07:31Shouldn't have done it
07:32I shouldn't have left, nah
07:33But I did
07:34And you spent two months sharing a bed with another woman
07:36No, not two
07:37Not two months
07:38Tell me about that day, right
07:39Erm
07:40You told my team I left Tara for two months
07:43Had you planned it?
07:44No, we'd had a rail that morning anyway
07:46And I went
07:47So, on the way back
07:48Bought a couple of beers
07:49Thought, ah, whatever
07:50Ended up going to my mum's
07:51Then, after a few days
07:53You're very nervous
07:54Yeah, I am proper nervous
07:55Well, because you failed the test
07:56No
07:57Why are you here?
07:58Because I want to find out the truth for both of us
08:00It's a bit rich, that isn't it?
08:01A bit rich that you think that she might
08:03No, it's not
08:04Because
08:05He was going round my house
08:06He was there all night left for work in the morning
08:07Once he'd come round
08:08And another
08:09But he knew that
08:10He knew that
08:11He knew I was with this person
08:12And another
08:13And another man
08:14He knew that
08:15He knew that
08:16Another man, text is on the phone
08:17I met this man
08:18He showed me the text
08:19When I went to pick up my kids
08:20There was a text saying
08:21Can't talk TJ's here
08:22Ring me later or whatever
08:23You left her
08:24Yeah, I know, I know
08:25But when we got back together
08:26And isn't the way you feel about it
08:27I'm not having a go
08:28Isn't that natural?
08:29Because at the end of the day
08:30If you hadn't done one at Tesco's
08:31And gone to your mother's with a couple of beers
08:33Nothing would have happened
08:34Maybe she was playing a game
08:35That's what I'm saying
08:36Right?
08:37Playing a game
08:38And having my best mate round all night
08:40And leaving in the morning
08:41That's not playing a game
08:42Why if you passed me
08:43Did do that
08:44And she's cheated
08:45Because she was so hacked off
08:46What happens then?
08:47We're going to talk whatever anyway
08:48Because we've been together that long
08:49But I hope
08:50Maybe that
08:51Go to a break
08:52Come back to the results
08:53Maybe that last sentence is important to both of you
08:54We've been together that long
08:56Maybe
08:57Eleven years is a long time
08:59You're both 27
09:00You've known nothing different
09:01Two kids
09:03The sex might be great
09:04But the routine's quite boring of life, isn't it?
09:06No
09:07You said he's a good dad as well?
09:09He is
09:10So when you were apart you still saw the kids?
09:12Yeah
09:13You love her, don't you?
09:14Yeah, proper
09:15This really affects you, doesn't it?
09:17Yeah, mate
09:19What about you?
09:20Did you cheat on him?
09:21No, I didn't
09:22Not once
09:23Couldn't bring myself to kiss another man
09:25Let no sleep with another man
09:29There's another part, isn't there?
09:31You're going to go to this outbreak
09:32And you think
09:33All of this is coarse because I'm an idiot
09:35Double lie detector next
09:36Don't go anywhere, I promise you
09:37Right there
09:38I didn't get straight with this other girl though
09:40So you did get with her then?
09:41Yeah, I was with her
09:42Yeah, in this two months
09:43A relationship
09:44Yeah, I was with her
09:45And you didn't have intercourse with her
09:46No, I didn't, no
09:47Can we get mine over and done with, please?
09:48Don't need to take this stage
09:49There's a feud in the family tearing your family apart
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10:29Welcome back for the break
10:30Tara and TJ
10:3111 years since she was 16
10:33Few arguments
10:34Two young kids
10:35One day
10:36How many months ago
10:37You went to Tesco's
10:38What were you going to buy in Tesco's?
10:39Just a bit of shopping
10:40Bit of shopping
10:41Obviously
10:42You're talking about a car
10:43And you didn't come back
10:44Went to your mum's
10:45Had some beers
10:46You don't get on with the mum
10:47You rang the next day
10:48I've left you
10:49You moved in with a woman
10:50How did you know this woman
10:51That you moved in with?
10:52I've known her from years and years ago
10:53She left?
10:54No, no
10:55Tara's looking at you
10:57Yeah, I weren't together with her
10:59But why
11:00I'm just
11:01I'm not having to go
11:02I was sort of with her
11:03You've got a cheeky grin on you TJ
11:04But here's the thing
11:05If the fact is
11:06You had to leave your missus for two months
11:08Because all you did was argue
11:09Right?
11:10I didn't get straight with this other girl though
11:12So you did get with her then?
11:13Yeah, I was with her
11:14In this two months
11:15A relationship?
11:16Yeah, I was with her
11:17And you didn't have intercourse with her?
11:18No
11:19I didn't, no
11:20Because you're that much of a gentleman
11:21Yeah
11:22No, not because I'm a gentleman
11:23Just because it didn't happen
11:24But apparently you want lots of sex
11:26Yeah, I do
11:27With her, yeah
11:28How often?
11:29Can I have the results?
11:30How often do you have sex?
11:31Quite often
11:32Who are we going to start with?
11:36TJ
11:37As ever the questions that were asked
11:38The answers that were given
11:39And whether you were telling the truth or not
11:41By the way
11:42At the beginning of the test
11:43TJ admitted to the lie detector test guy
11:46That he had a relationship with another woman
11:48During the two month break with Tara
11:50He admits
11:51We're just putting it all out there
11:53He kissed and had sexual contact with her
11:55But insists that no sexual intercourse took place whatsoever
11:59Because he was unable to get an erection
12:01We asked him did you have sexual intercourse with the woman in question
12:05You said no
12:06Why did you say no?
12:07Tell him the truth
12:08Tess says you're a liar, pal
12:09No way
12:14Can we get mine over and done with, please?
12:16Because I need to leave this stage
12:17Sorry, mate
12:19Told you, didn't I?
12:20I told you
12:21I don't need to
12:22You know what?
12:23I haven't
12:24Just shut up
12:25I told you, do not
12:26Sorry, do not drag me here
12:27If you're going to do that
12:28You're a liar
12:29You're a liar
12:30Can I tell you about your face?
12:31No, I'm not a liar
12:32Can I tell you about your face?
12:33Feel sick on your top and get off your stage, please?
12:37She passed every single question
12:43TJ!
12:44Oi! Oi!
12:47He don't even look surprised
12:50He doesn't even look surprised
12:51TJ, you need to go and talk to her, mate
12:53You've got kids with her
12:54It's all right
12:55Wait here then
12:56You can't just run away
12:58TJ, you've got to talk to her, pal
12:59Mate, you've got to talk to her
13:00Mate, you've got to talk to her
13:01Mate, you've got to talk to her
13:02This way, look
13:03Listen, listen
13:04Listen, I swear to her
13:05Listen, I'm reading it
13:06I believed you
13:07Listen, I didn't have sexual influence
13:08Well, why'd you fail the test, man?
13:09Listen, I got close to her
13:10Listen, I got close to her
13:11Listen, I got close to her
13:12And
13:13You need to tell her, right, listen
13:14This is really easy to sort out
13:15Because eleven years is a long time
13:16From the age of fifteen, sixteen
13:17Do you know any different?
13:18No
13:19How many people stay together
13:20And then it goes wrong forever
13:21You've got some
13:22Listen, maybe it's a blip you can't get over
13:24Maybe it's a blip you can get over
13:26Maybe it's a blip you can get over
13:27You're an idiot
13:28I don't mean that badly
13:29I'm not showing you
13:30Because she's a diamond, mate
13:31And you know that she's a mother of kids
13:32But I don't think
13:33I said to her
13:34I don't think he's got
13:35I don't think he's a bad boy
13:36I'm going to be devastated
13:37If for her
13:38If I fail
13:39Not for her
13:40You knew you were going to fail, didn't you?
13:42That's why you look nervous
13:43I didn't have sex with her though, Jez
13:44This isn't Dr Jez's sex therapy session
13:45No, I know
13:46But I didn't
13:47I'm fifty-three
13:48It doesn't matter
13:49Don't start talking about sex
13:50It's too early
13:51Listen
13:52It's not the point
13:53He's still tried
13:54But you love him, don't you?
13:55But you love him
13:56Yeah, but I don't know if I can get past this
13:57No, I don't know
13:58I really don't know
13:59Can I just make one suggestion?
14:00I told him the whole time
14:01He told me
14:02He knew
14:03Get off
14:04He told me
14:05He knew I'd done something
14:06He swore down he knew I'd done something
14:07He made me swear on my kids' lives
14:09He made me swear on people that ain't even here no more
14:10Well, I knew you hadn't done anything
14:11I knew you hadn't done anything
14:12Straight away
14:13Within five minutes
14:14Told him
14:15Don't make me look like an idiot
14:16And he asked
14:17Just when you spend the night with someone all night
14:18No, look at me
14:19Oi, no, you ain't
14:20Made himself look like an idiot
14:21He'd been absolutely spot on
14:22Nobody could ever go
14:23I'm the idiot
14:24Look, I've flopped
14:25And I've made jokes about me
14:26I mean, I'm the idiot, babe
14:27No one else
14:28It's not about that
14:29It's about
14:30Look at me a minute
14:31Just listen to me, right?
14:32At least just
14:33You know when we go to people
14:34We'll go and have aftercare
14:35And I'll just sit
14:36Just chill
14:37Just get away from the cameras
14:38Two kids
14:39I'm not saying you're gonna have to beg
14:40Like you wouldn't believe, right?
14:41You know what you've done wrong
14:42Yeah
14:43But the arguments weren't great
14:44There's different ways to behave
14:46It didn't work
14:47But then here's the thing
14:48How many women watching this will go?
14:50So me old man goes to Tesco
14:52So I find out he's living with another woman
14:54And when he comes back after two months
14:56He goes, ah, babe, I'm sorry
14:57You let him straight through the door
14:59I didn't let him straight through the door
15:00You know what I'm saying?
15:02I would think that if you ever get back through that door
15:05This will be the last chance
15:06Yeah, cool
15:07I don't dislike you both
15:08Just try, alright?
15:09Yeah?
15:10I'm the idiot, mate
15:11You know what I mean?
15:12I know forever you'll be known as Floppy
15:13Give him a minute
15:14Give him a round of applause
15:15Good luck to them
15:16We'll let you know
15:17Right, my next guest today, Charles
15:18Is here to prove to his girlfriend, Karen, that he's not a cheat
15:19Charles says the relationship was perfect up until last weekend when he was bored
15:31And decided to innocently search for what he describes as hardcore porn
15:35Charles says this was the biggest mistake of his life
15:38As she picked up his phone and discovered what he'd been looking at
15:40And now she's convinced
15:41He's no good and he's a cheat
15:42He's here to prove his innocence
15:44Charles is on the Jeremy Carr Show that way
15:46CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
15:53How are you?
15:55I'm fine
15:56I bet you think this is the last place a week ago I was going to be, right?
16:00Aye, this has been the last place I would have wanted to come to date us
16:05Well, that's not very nice, is it?
16:07Aye, but...
16:08Charles, 43, been with Karen for two years
16:12And in fact, you met on Facebook Messenger
16:15Aye
16:16What does that mean?
16:17Er...
16:18I sent her a friend request on Messenger
16:20She accepted me
16:21And then we got talking from there
16:23And then you went to Costa Coffee?
16:24Aye
16:25I asked to meet her
16:26What did you have, a croissant?
16:28No, just a... just a coffee
16:30Coffee?
16:31Aye
16:32And then I turned her home to her mother's
16:33Did you have sex with her straight away?
16:34No
16:35Erm...
16:36I have been an amazing partner to Karen
16:38I've bought her flowers
16:39I've bought her a bangle
16:40And I've even proposed
16:41And our sex life is fantastic
16:43Uh-huh
16:44What...
16:45Why?
16:47My day...
16:50Er...
16:51Even two...
16:52Twice a night
16:53Things like that
16:54You know what I mean?
16:55Two or three times a night
16:56I'll tell you that ourselves
16:57You know what I mean?
16:58I would never stray
16:59The sex is fantastic
17:01Uh-huh
17:02Twice a night, every night
17:03Most nights
17:0456 times a month
17:05Aye
17:06So you love this woman
17:07Now recently, you say
17:08I did something that I've never done before
17:10And that has really just thrown a huge
17:13Just nightmare scenario into our lives
17:16Tell us
17:17I know it's embarrassing
17:18Really appreciate you being here
17:19Again, as clearly as you can
17:20What happened?
17:21I've downloaded an app
17:23A porn app
17:24Right
17:25Here
17:26To look at some porn
17:27Right
17:28And I've been looking at some videos
17:31And I've been on it
17:32Two or three times
17:33Is it...
17:34What...
17:35An app?
17:36Because I'm not very good at this
17:37Ah, it's like...
17:38You type in...
17:39Er...
17:40Right
17:41Er...
17:42It comes...
17:43It comes down
17:44Right
17:45You've got a phone?
17:47You've got a phone, Steve?
17:49Somebody give me a phone
17:51Because I want to see how this works
17:52Will...
17:53Graham, could you get me a phone, please?
17:55Thank you
17:56Is this your phone, Will?
17:57Then what have we put in?
17:58Right
17:59Oh my God!
18:11You've got all different tapes you can picture
18:16Er, there's a woman at a birthday party
18:19With her hand on the chocolate cake
18:22And...
18:23Something else
18:24Right
18:25Well I'm going to give that back to you
18:27You need to get rid of that
18:28That's...
18:29That's quite...
18:30Why...
18:31Why were you looking for porn when you have such a satisfying relationship
18:37And such a wonderful woman?
18:38Or is it something that you wanted to introduce into the relationship?
18:41No, it was just about interest
18:43It was getting spoke about somewhere... somewhere else
18:46Yeah
18:47Right?
18:48And that's how...
18:49Because let's be perfectly honest
18:50A lot of men and women and couples
18:51Uh-huh
18:52Use porn on a regular basis
18:53Somebody in the crew
18:54I'm not going to point out
18:55It's just going to be going
18:56Yeah
18:57Yeah
18:58I mean...
18:59It was talked about somewhere else
19:01And...
19:02That's what got me interested in trying to find it
19:05You said that you paid to go on it?
19:07No, what you do is it asks you for your details, right?
19:10And then it asks you for bank details to make sure you're over a certain age
19:14Oh
19:15Right?
19:16And I've gave the bank details
19:17And don't worry
19:18Um...
19:19I liked what I saw and I clicked on a few videos
19:23Uh-huh
19:24And then you got scammed
19:25This is important to the story, isn't it?
19:27Aye
19:28What's happened is
19:29After being on that two or three times
19:33Right?
19:34It's...
19:35When I reloaded it again to watch it
19:37It's come down with another up
19:39You got scammed for 170 quid
19:41Uh-huh
19:42You say...
19:43You say she reckons...
19:44She says that you've been paying to have sex
19:46That's right
19:47Or do whatever
19:48She's paranoid
19:49Um...
19:50And she now thinks you're a cheat
19:51And the relationship that was fantastic
19:54Is...
19:55Is literally not fantastic now
19:56No
19:57You're arguing all the time
19:58Um...
19:59The engagement's on hold
20:00So today is really...
20:01I mean I guess the last resort
20:02But you're gonna get the truth
20:03And...
20:04Ah...
20:05When...
20:06How long have you been together for?
20:07When did you get together?
20:08Er...
20:09September
20:10I said the end of September
20:12The end of September 2016
20:14Aye
20:15She says the beginning
20:16You know what I mean?
20:17Give or take a couple of weeks
20:18It was September
20:19You know what I mean?
20:20Right
20:21Right, so September 2016
20:22Aye
20:23Aye
20:24Okay
20:25Um...
20:26Do you regret watching the porn?
20:27Uh-huh
20:28You've been scammed out of 170 quid
20:30Today you'll prove with the lie detector
20:31That you haven't cheated on Karen
20:32You love her, you want to be with her
20:33That's what we're doing, right?
20:34Aye, but the thing is
20:35I've proved...
20:36I've proved that I got scammed as well
20:37Because I got all the money back
20:38Half the bank
20:39They...
20:40They sent you the money back?
20:41See, that's an important thing
20:42Well...
20:43Well, no, that's fair enough
20:44Because then...
20:45They sent you the bank statements
20:46And that as well
20:47Where I got the money back
20:48You know what I mean?
20:49What does she think?
20:50So she thinks that they...
20:51So they gave you a deposit...
20:52They gave you the money back
20:53And what does she think then?
20:54Surely that proves it
20:55Well, let's ask her
20:56Karen's on the Jeremy Karl show
20:57That way
21:06Where are you going, darling?
21:07Sorry, hello
21:08Sorry, what's that?
21:09Sorry, I'm not really into...
21:11Hello, sweetheart
21:12Excuse me, Jeremy...
21:13What are you doing?
21:14I'm too nervous to get there
21:15I'd like to stay through here
21:16All right, so do what we'll do
21:17OK, we'll go to an ad break
21:18We'll calm you down
21:19We'll sort it out
21:20Back in a minute, don't go anywhere
21:21I found that...
21:22Thingy...
21:23It matted
21:24The XXX thing?
21:25Yeah
21:28It was just gone, Jeremy
21:29I've had to let that go
21:30See these sites?
21:31It was to meet local gangs in the area for sex
21:34Are you a cheat?
21:36No, I'm not
21:44Hello, Roger
21:46Welcome back
21:47I'm Karen
21:48I absolutely listen
21:49More than you know will understand
21:50And you say the audience freaks you out
21:52And everything
21:53Let's take a chair along here
21:54We want to hear your side of this story
21:55Because this was a relationship that was going alright, wasn't it?
21:58It was good
21:59I mean, two years
22:00Um...
22:01He's...
22:02Listen, he says he's come here because he wants to put this right
22:05Take this seat here, my darling
22:07Let's just have this chat
22:08I know the audience and the idea of that freaked you out
22:11Um...
22:12So you meet...
22:13It started September 2016, the relationship, yeah?
22:16Um...
22:18Everything great
22:19Everything good
22:20I mean, he said quite a good physical relationship
22:22Yeah
22:23Everything's fine
22:24And then it goes downhill rapidly
22:25How do you discover the porn thing?
22:26Talk to me
22:27Tell me in your words
22:28Well...
22:29He...
22:30He done it for one
22:31And he put art blocks on it
22:33It locks all your apps
22:35You need a code
22:36To get into the phone
22:37So I started getting suspicious
22:39And asked
22:40Why have you got these locks?
22:41Take them off
22:42So...
22:43Do you check his phone regularly?
22:44Is that something that you do?
22:45No
22:46Just when I saw these app locks
22:47I started thinking
22:48What's he hiding in his phone?
22:49Hmm
22:50So then he took the app locks off
22:52And I...
22:53Lifted the phone and went through it
22:54What did you find?
22:55I found that...
22:56Thing he...
22:57Emitted
22:58The XXX thing?
22:59Yeah
23:00And...
23:01Videos?
23:02That when they bothered me
23:03But then I found that he'd been going on to websites
23:06Where you meet up with local girls in your area
23:09For sex with no strings
23:11So he's going on sites
23:12It's not just your...
23:13And there was...
23:14It wasn't one
23:15There was loads of them
23:16So you think he's been meeting girls for sex?
23:19Yeah
23:20What about this £170 scam?
23:21He says that...
23:22He showed me that he did get that back
23:24But...
23:25I don't know
23:26So you think that this relationship's been a bit of a sham?
23:28You think that actually this guy's been hiding from you the truth?
23:30Yeah
23:31You think he's been, what, cheating on you?
23:33Mm-hmm
23:34So you've been together two years
23:35September 2016
23:36The beginning or the end?
23:37He said the end
23:38Doesn't matter, does it?
23:39September?
23:40It was September
23:41I can't remember the exact date
23:42I'd say beginning middle
23:43Okay
23:44Um...
23:45Do you love him?
23:48I mean, if he had been out meeting other people for sex
23:50What happens?
23:51It's finished
23:52What if it's all in your mind and you shouldn't be checking his phone
23:55And he's just literally gone to watch a bit of porn
23:57And he's been dragged onto national television to clear his name
24:00He must love you to be here
24:01Who suggested it, by the way?
24:02He suggested that I emailed
24:04But I didn't think they would phone his quick
24:05And they did when we arrived last night
24:07Now you don't want to go on the stage, do you?
24:08No
24:09Why?
24:10Because there's loads of people
24:12It's a television show
24:14With me?
24:15No?
24:16Apparently he's coming round here
24:17That's fair enough
24:18Right, give him a round of applause
24:19Is he bad?
24:20Come on, Charles
24:21Very upset to see you here
24:22You alright?
24:23Alright
24:24I mean
24:25Look
24:26He got the 170 quid back
24:28He's phoned the Jeremy Carl show
24:30Talk
24:32Aye
24:33She knows
24:34I've told her everyone
24:35What?
24:36The app that she's talking about
24:37Right
24:38There were loads of apps
24:39There were loads of apps
24:40And why were your apps locked?
24:41It was a
24:42It was a new phone
24:43Right
24:44Right
24:45And it was in
24:46It was in with the settings
24:47And I decided to use it
24:48Not to hide anything
24:49You know what I mean?
24:50Why would I leave my phone
24:51Sitting about then
24:52Unlocked
24:53For it to go through
24:54Why does he leave his phone
24:55Can you
24:56Do you ever talk to each other
24:57Or do you just have sex twice a day?
24:58What do you talk?
24:59Talk?
25:00No we do talk
25:01He doesnae leave his phone a bit
25:02He says he wouldn't go anywhere
25:03So he gets all the sex he wants
25:04In the world from you
25:05Aye that's true
25:06But see the phone he had
25:07Before us phone
25:08It was all smashed
25:09Talk to him
25:10So you couldn't get through it
25:11Even if you wanted to
25:12Because it was that smashed
25:13Listen
25:14You've turned round and said
25:15Right
25:16That I've looked
25:17I've looked his up
25:18Are you a cheat?
25:19Right
25:20No I'm not
25:21She says she's done if you are
25:22Aye
25:23I'm nearly done just now
25:24Jeremy never mind
25:25Are you being paranoid then?
25:26Just because you caught him having porn
25:28And maybe you think
25:29If it was just porn
25:30Jeremy I would have let that go
25:31See these sites
25:32It was to meet local girls in your area for sex
25:35Can I get the results please?
25:36Where are the results?
25:37To kick
25:38Well I typed in
25:40I want to see the audience
25:41Can I see the audience on this screen Matt
25:43Because I want to see how many people think
25:44Can you wait a minute now
25:45He's getting out of the team
25:46Right I want to know
25:47I want a shot of the entire audience
25:48Because I want to ask you
25:49Right hands up if you think this man's cheating
25:51Very few
25:53Very few
25:54They agree with him
25:55They think that you're paranoid
25:58As ever the questions that were asked
26:00The answers that were given
26:01And whether indeed Charles was telling the truth or not
26:03Thank you for giving us the opportunity to do this
26:05There's a note
26:06We determined that Charles and Karen started their relationship
26:08At the end of September 2016
26:10Yeah?
26:11Right
26:12Yeah?
26:13Happy with that?
26:15Aye
26:16Maybe he agreed to say the end of September
26:18Because something happened before
26:19Is that what you're thinking?
26:20Yeah
26:21Because that's what you're facing
26:22Did you change the date to make it easier?
26:23Well if there's nobody
26:24That's what I'm saying
26:25I've already seen this when I came
26:27We determined that Charles and started their relationship
26:29At the end of September
26:30That's what we tested on
26:31We asked him
26:32Since the start of your relationship with Karen
26:33Have you passionately kissed anyone else?
26:35You said no
26:36Why did you say no?
26:37I was telling the truth
26:38This says you're a liar pal
26:39And that's from the end of September
26:43Before you start
26:44No
26:45Telling the truth
26:46Since the start of your relationship with Karen
26:48Have you had sexual contact with anyone?
26:49She said no
26:50This test says you failed that question too
26:51I failed them
26:52You failed every single question
26:54Including sexual intercourse
26:56Oh my god
26:57Unbelievable man
26:59Darling
27:01I can't
27:02Can you come here darling
27:03I can't chase around
27:05Just don't take that up
27:06Just talk to me
27:07Just talk to me
27:08No I don't want to talk
27:09I can't lie
27:10I know you just lie
27:11So what happens now?
27:12It's finished
27:13Can we
27:14I can't
27:15You're
27:16The test is nonsense
27:17Nonsense
27:18Oh the test is nonsense
27:19Nonsense
27:20Oh no
27:21No
27:22Do you hear that?
27:23Apparently my test is
27:24Can you speak?
27:25He tells me my test is nonsense
27:26No it's not nonsense
27:27No it's not nonsense
27:28Why are you telling me my test is nonsense?
27:30Because it's not true
27:32That's how
27:33It's not true
27:34I'm not cheap
27:35Why did you fail it then?
27:36I don't know how I failed it
27:38Because you're lying
27:39No I'm not lying
27:40I'm not cheating on her
27:41I haven't cheated on her
27:42I haven't cheated in any
27:43So why did you fail the test?
27:45I don't know
27:47I honestly don't know
27:48I mean it's very easy
27:49Shush
27:50It's very easy to have a go at me
27:51Isn't it?
27:52We did everything you asked her
27:53Says end of September
27:54I know
27:55She didn't look very happy
27:56You made it end of September
27:57Like you were looking for excuse
27:58But you put end of September
27:59We did and you still failed it
28:00Come and talk to her
28:01I don't know how that failed it
28:02I don't know how that failed it
28:03Well it's called a lie detector
28:05I suspect you fail it
28:06If you tell a lie
28:07No
28:08Thank you
28:09Thank you
28:14Karen I'll just say one thing to you
28:16Before you shoot
28:17I'll follow by everybody
28:18Right?
28:19This is the real world
28:20You can stand here
28:21And tell him it's over
28:22And do it
28:23But I'm not chasing you around
28:24Come and just tell the bloke
28:25Done
28:27Done
28:28Yeah done
28:29100% done
28:34I don't know what mate
28:35I'm just paid to read the results out
28:37What happens now?
28:38It's done
28:39It's finished
28:40You did cheat didn't you?
28:41No I didn't cheat
28:42Why'd you fail then?
28:43I don't know how I failed
28:44That's the truth Jeremy
28:46I'm not
28:47I am just paid to read the results out mate
28:49But that says that you lied
28:50Okay?
28:51And she says it's over
28:53Aye
28:54You know what I mean
28:55Can I confess?
28:56Don't you cheat?
28:57See if I cheat it
28:58I wouldn't come on here
28:59Right?
29:00And if I did cheat
29:01I'm not having a go
29:02I don't dislike you
29:03But that's what they all say
29:04I would tell you the news
29:05If I cheat it
29:06With the results
29:07I've no cheat it
29:08I don't know how
29:09You'd manage to get results saying guilty
29:12Did you lie in any part of the test?
29:14No
29:15Right
29:16Well
29:17You know
29:18You'll have to do what you do
29:19We'll support you
29:20But at the end of the day
29:21That's what the test says
29:22And she's go one way
29:23You go the other
29:24Applause
29:25Thank you
29:30Good luck to them
29:31We'll let you know
29:32Right my next guest today
29:33John is here for all important lie detector results
29:35To prove to his friend Leslie
29:37That he's not stolen from her
29:38Now he says he's been banned from a house
29:40Until he clears his name
29:41He says he doesn't really want to do this show
29:43That's nice isn't it
29:44But he says
29:45I need to get this sorted
29:46There's too many people
29:47Her friends and people around
29:48Don't believe him
29:49John
29:50Who doesn't want to be on the Jeremy Kyle show
29:52Is on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
29:54Hello
29:55Hello
30:00Hello
30:01Hello
30:02You looking smart
30:03You all right?
30:04You all right?
30:05Pardon?
30:06Thank you
30:07Welcome to the show
30:08Um
30:09I don't you know
30:10So many people come to this show
30:11With so many different stories
30:12You and Leslie are not lovers are you?
30:14No no
30:15Friends for a long long time
30:16Yeah
30:17It's not about the amount of money I'm not interested
30:20It's about this accusation
30:22She has said
30:23You know we've been friends for eight years
30:26I can't trust him as far as I can throw him
30:29He came into money
30:31And you know I'm fuming that he would do this to me
30:36What's she accusing you of?
30:38Er some
30:39A certain amount of money went missing from a place
30:43A few years ago
30:45A few years ago?
30:47Yeah yeah
30:48Well there was only two people that could have
30:50And obviously the other person
30:51Hasn't come
30:52You got a history of stealing?
30:53No no no
30:54So I'll pass it
30:55Easy
30:56She told my team that you've stolen from her before
30:58No no
30:59She says that John's in love with me
31:01She once asked me to pretend to be my girlfriend at a work party
31:05Are you in love with her?
31:06No no
31:07I love her a bit
31:08I think the world of her
31:09She knows that
31:10But if she said yes you'd jump in wouldn't you?
31:12She's a lovely lady
31:13If she said be with me you'd jump in wouldn't you?
31:16Yeah I would
31:17Yeah fair enough
31:18Both single
31:19I've got some flowers backstage
31:20So listen if you part
31:21Oh have you got flowers have you?
31:23She suffers from bad hay fever
31:25Obviously
31:27I would not even give her flowers
31:33I like you Strasina
31:34She really gets bad hay fever
31:36Right
31:37Likes the chocolate she would be
31:39She likes chocolate?
31:40Yeah she likes chocolate
31:41Have we?
31:42We've got four freddos and an old kit-kat
31:45Um
31:46Aww
31:47Look
31:48Look
31:49They're lovely but I'm
31:51There's one thing I would never buy for her
31:54Unfortunate that she suffers from a mayfever
31:57They're gorgeous flowers
31:58Right
31:59Well this is going brilliantly
32:01Um
32:02Listen not everybody's you know outgoing and dynamic
32:04Look we've got the flowers we've got the message
32:06Tell me that great camera work
32:08Oh look there's a daisy
32:10Just get off the flowers
32:12He says she suffers from hay fever
32:14She thinks he's a tea leaf
32:16She's now refusing to come out in case she gets hay fever
32:19No she's not
32:20So you're going to do the test
32:22That's why you've come here isn't it?
32:23I've done the test yeah
32:24Have you?
32:25Was it good fun?
32:26Well it's nervous yeah
32:27Yeah
32:28Cause I'm not the sort of thing I do every day
32:30No no
32:31And then Lesley's going to come out
32:32She's going to be angry
32:33And then we're not going to give her any flowers
32:35You're going to pass
32:36And then we're all going to go home yeah?
32:37I know I'll pass
32:38Oh that's good
32:39Alright mate
32:40Well let's get her not very happy at all
32:41Lesley's on the Jeremy class
32:43Come on
32:52Right
32:53Are you alright darling?
32:54Yeah
32:55Would you like some flowers?
32:56Don't even go there please
32:58We know
32:59I'm allergic to them so
33:00Oh I'm sorry
33:01How are you my darling?
33:02Welcome to the show
33:03I'm good thank you
33:04It's not about the amount of money
33:05It's about the principle that you say a man who you've known for eight years
33:08Yeah
33:09Would do that
33:10You say you can't trust him further than you could throw him
33:12Yes
33:13Have you ever tried to throw him anywhere?
33:15No
33:17You say that he's always been in love with you
33:22Ask him
33:23He'll tell you
33:24I don't know
33:25Well I'm telling you
33:26I don't know
33:27He says it
33:28I don't know
33:29Why are you getting angry?
33:30I'm not angry about anything
33:31I'm not angry
33:32Do you think he loves you?
33:33Do you think he loves you?
33:34Yes
33:36Do you love her?
33:37Yeah I love her a bit
33:39Lovely lady
33:41In all of the notes that we took from you not only did you accuse him of stealing from you this time but you say he's done it before
33:50That was a bit of a misunderstanding
33:53I left some money on the side and I said to John if he would like to use it he could take it and then I went for a Chinese
34:04As you do
34:05As you do
34:06Yeah well I did
34:07I was hungry
34:09And I come back and a couple of quid was missing
34:14How much was in your drawer?
34:16There was quite a lot of money but a certain amount went missing
34:20Was your initial feeling definitely it's going to be John?
34:24My initial feeling is no it's not him
34:28And that ladies and gentlemen is why we're on the Jeremy Cowell show doing a lie detector
34:32So why are we here?
34:33Because I just want the proof
34:36If this guy
34:38Also I wanted to meet you as well
34:40You're flirting with me?
34:42Yeah absolutely
34:44I'm a bit older than you though
34:46No I'm going to be 50 this year
34:48Yeah I'm 68
34:49And you're engaged so it's not going to work is it?
34:51No it's not going to work
34:52So there you go
34:53So why did you bring it up?
34:54What about him? Why can't you get with him? He's in love with you mate
34:55I'm not interested
34:56Well that's great
34:57But you like having him hanging on a piece of string
35:12No no absolutely not
35:14I'm not hanging him on a piece of string
35:17No
35:18Absolutely not
35:19That's not going to happen I don't use people
35:22Your friendship with Lesley is it based on a hope that one day more can happen?
35:27No
35:28If you're being truthful
35:29No
35:30No
35:31You're in love with her
35:32I'd still be friends with her or whatever
35:34What if she got with somebody else?
35:35I'd still be friends with her
35:36Oh he's just a nice man
35:39Yeah he's nice but you know
35:41He might be a thief he might be horrible
35:42We might be shouting at him in a minute
35:45If he has stolen what happens?
35:50I don't think he has
35:51I've spent 700 quid on this
35:58It's a waste of money
35:59Well how about we have a date after?
36:01Who's got a date after?
36:03You and him?
36:04I mean you
36:05No no no
36:06Very good
36:07We asked John who's blatantly in love with Lesley
36:10Did you steal the money that went missing from her bedroom drawers?
36:14Draw?
36:15You said no why did you say no?
36:17That's the truth
36:18Sorry?
36:19That's the truth
36:20Is that the loudest you ever speak?
36:21Yeah
36:22No one was telling the truth
36:23He didn't steal the money
36:29And we always
36:30When we do
36:31When we do theft lie detector
36:33We ask whether the person was complicit in the crime
36:35I.e. if they knew that was doing
36:37Oh dear god
36:38I know John
36:39Thank you
36:42Do you know for sure who stole the money that went missing from Lesley's bedroom?
36:45He passed both questions to Johnny boy
36:47He passed them to your parents
36:49Can I um
36:54Can I make a suggestion?
36:56Um
36:57Watching your body language
36:59You know he's in love with you don't you?
37:01Come on
37:04You know he's in love with you don't you?
37:06Yes
37:08Does that make friendship difficult?
37:10No
37:11Brilliant
37:12Well it's been thrilling
37:14I'd like to present you with a present
37:16William
37:19Thank you
37:22You're serious
37:23You don't want them
37:24You don't want them
37:25All right
37:26I'll tell you what I'm gonna do
37:27I'm gonna give them to somebody who's far more deserving
37:28But it's very nice to meet you
37:29No I'll take the flowers
37:30No you're not taking the flowers
37:31No you've got hay fever
37:32No I don't want them anyway
37:33You don't want them
37:34It's lovely to
37:35If you could give them to someone that
37:37Would appreciate them
37:38Yes
37:39All right
37:40Thank you
37:41Sorry I don't
37:42Oh Jamie can I have a cuddle
37:43Thank you
37:44Thank you
37:45Thank you
37:46Thank you
37:47Thank you
37:48Thank you
37:49Thank you
37:50Thank you
37:51Take
37:52Take
37:53I'm going to give them to somebody who looks reasonable
37:56Won't be Stephanie
37:57Look as miserable as sin
37:58Trying to say I don't look reasonable
37:59Go away
38:00Go
38:01Sorry
38:02I'm joking leave
38:03Do you want them
38:04I'm only messing
38:05Would you like
38:06No no just give them to someone that
38:07Would appreciate them more than me
38:09Please
38:11Who do we think
38:12That lady
38:14There maybe
38:15I've been as miserable as sin all day
38:17Miserable
38:18There's a woman in the front row that paid to see this today
38:20Okay
38:21And I'm going to give them to her
38:22Because she's our guest
38:23There you are
38:24There you go
38:25Nice to see you
38:26Take care
38:27Bye bye darling
38:28Thank you very much for me
38:29See you later
38:30Bye
38:31Good luck to them
38:32We'll let you know
38:33She got the flares
38:34We're coming back in three on the JK show
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38:36I heard rumours
38:37He touched somebody up at the funeral
38:38I didn't even know he was going to a funeral
38:39I didn't do it
38:40I didn't do it
38:41He said I was rubbish in bed
38:42He says I'll just do this either
38:43I'm looking at you
38:44With two fake heads
38:45I did
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38:56I didn't do it
38:57I didn't do it
38:58I didn't do it
38:59I didn't do it
39:00I didn't do it
39:01I didn't do it
39:02I didn't do it
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39:36Welcome to my next guest today, Alex is desperate to find out if boyfriend Stephen of 14 months is in fact a player and a cheat.
39:43She says that things were great up until six months ago when he was spotted touching another woman's bottom whilst at a funeral.
39:52Alex says that if he fails the test, naturally the relationship's over.
39:56Already on stage, big day for her. Alex is on the Jeremy Kyle Show.
39:59There!
40:01That didn't sound right, was it? Do you know what I mean?
40:04You OK?
40:04Yeah, yeah, it's nice to meet you. I'm your biggest fan.
40:08Are you?
40:08Yeah.
40:09Right, all right.
40:10Um, thank you, thank you.
40:12These stories, sometimes you go, oh my God.
40:15Now, you and Stephen, how long have you been together?
40:1714 months.
40:19Oh, you said that when I first met him, I thought he was such a dude.
40:21Yeah, he was really cool.
40:23Was he?
40:23Yeah, he was.
40:24He's in his 50s though.
40:25Men in their 50s get, they say that you get better looking the older you get.
40:30And, um, yeah.
40:32Yeah.
40:32Men are like wine.
40:33Do you want to think?
40:36Yeah, actually, I prefer a mature man.
40:38How did you meet, Stephen?
40:40Where did you meet, online or...?
40:41Well, it's not a very romantic story.
40:44We met while we were drunk in a pub.
40:46Good God, it's a canary!
40:48Stevie lad, how are you?
40:52You met when you were drunk?
40:53Yeah, in a pub.
40:56Not the most of romantic stories.
40:58OK.
40:58From being instantly attracted, from being a person and a couple who were at it like whatever,
41:06it's all gone downhill because of something that happened at a funeral, allegedly.
41:11Yes, and that's one of the reasons why I'm here, to understand, because I believe, um, innocent until proven guilty.
41:19Yeah, but it's affected your relationship, you say that our relationship is rubbish now, it's gone stale, we haven't had sex in ages.
41:26Yeah, it's been a couple of, well...
41:28A couple of hours?
41:29Yeah.
41:30Yeah, it's not been as often as he would probably like.
41:37Stephen's body language is all wrong, he's being chef...shifty.
41:40Yeah.
41:41And I know that he's failed this test.
41:42I'm absolutely convinced that I will be leaving here a single woman.
41:46Why?
41:46Tell me about the funeral accusation.
41:49Well, I heard rumours that he touched somebody up at the funeral.
41:54I didn't even know he was going to a funeral.
41:57I thought it was at work.
41:58If you ever repeat what you've just said, right, this is what you just said.
42:01I heard rumours that he touched somebody's backside at a funeral.
42:04Pause.
42:04I didn't even know he was at a funeral!
42:06I don't mean to be rude, but at that moment when people are mourning,
42:12how does somebody see somebody grope somebody's butt?
42:14Did he...
42:14Well, over the...
42:15Oh, dear God.
42:16Wow.
42:17When I challenged him about it, and this is one of my issues, Jeremy,
42:21is that he didn't confess straight away.
42:24I had to drill down and say to him,
42:27look, tell me the truth, tell me the truth.
42:30Has he admitted that he touched a woman's bottom?
42:31He said he...
42:32If it's OK if I touch...
42:33Can I touch it?
42:35He did this, apparently.
42:44That's not my bottom.
42:45Exactly.
42:46That's what he said.
42:47You sound like Sean Connery.
42:49Don't I?
42:50So you're not touching...
42:51Can I touch it?
42:52Well, I'm not getting busted for that now, aren't I?
43:00So you're born here today, you're convinced he's going to...
43:02On a serious note, if he has failed, if he has groped somebody's backside at a funeral,
43:06is it over?
43:07If he's just a bit of groped...
43:09If he's just did this, then I think with a little bit of counselling...
43:15I've told my team he's got three motorbikes, and I think he goes off to meet other women for sex.
43:19Yes, because he's more interested in these motorbikes than me.
43:23Can we just get him out to do the live set?
43:24I think you're a very nice lady.
43:26I hope you get the answers you want, but if you don't, I fear you might be able to deal with it.
43:28Let's get Stephen on the Sean Connery show that way.
43:41What would lead you to grope somebody's bottom at a funeral,
43:44when you're trying to pay your respects to the dead?
43:46I didn't do it.
43:47I didn't do it.
43:48What?
43:48I didn't do it.
43:50I went to the funeral...
43:51Well, what happened then?
43:52Because she says you admitted to something.
43:54I went to the funeral, I came out of the church, and the same person was in front of...
43:57Right, show me what happened.
43:58I didn't touch her bottom.
44:02Somebody was in front of me, and I went like that.
44:05And then, instead of chatting her up, supposedly, I fell out with her.
44:09Did you touch her bottom?
44:11No.
44:12Why do you think...
44:13I could have kicked it, but I didn't touch it.
44:15Could have kicked it, but I didn't.
44:17This is brilliant.
44:18If he says it's not happening, why is this...
44:20On a serious note, this relationship's gone to rubbish.
44:23Why?
44:24Well, when I found out about the rumours
44:27that he'd touched someone at the funeral,
44:30if he'd have fessed up immediately,
44:32then the lack of trust wouldn't be there.
44:35I love your voice.
44:37If he'd fessed up immediately.
44:40Did you touch the lady's bottom?
44:42No.
44:42What's the relationship been like in the last few weeks and months?
44:44Pretty horrible.
44:45Rough.
44:45Why didn't you come here sooner, on a serious note?
44:49Didn't have anything to say.
44:50Do you want to be with this lady or not?
44:52Yes.
44:52You do?
44:53Yeah.
44:55I'm going to be really serious as well.
44:56Alex has had a hip operation,
44:57which is why we pre-setted her today on the stage.
44:59She, I guess, feels that maybe you don't want to be with her as much,
45:03because physically she's not in the position she was before.
45:07That's true, isn't it?
45:08Yeah, he said I was rubbish in bed.
45:10He says, all I just do is lie there.
45:12Oh, what can I do?
45:14With two feet, it hurts.
45:14I did.
45:15That's going to really work, isn't it?
45:17It was in anger.
45:17What?
45:18We'd had an argument and I said it in anger.
45:21That's all.
45:22Why do you not even look at her?
45:23You don't even look like you give a damn.
45:25I do.
45:25You look angry.
45:27I'm not angry.
45:28I'm angry with accusations.
45:30So you're going to basically refute them today.
45:33Tell her how you see this situation.
45:35It is rough.
45:35It's terrible.
45:36We fall out all the time.
45:38Other people.
45:39People cause arguments between us.
45:41It's not me and Alex.
45:42We get on most of the time okay.
45:44So this today, whose idea was it to come here?
45:47Alex's.
45:48How did you feel when she said, I want you to do a lie detector?
45:52Okay.
45:53Go with it.
45:54How many people in the audience think that he's going to pass this lie detector?
45:58Quite a few.
46:01Okay.
46:01I'll apologise if he does.
46:04But when he says things like that...
46:06He'll love you.
46:07You're my favourite guest forever.
46:11You're a terrible person at the moment, aren't you?
46:14I mean...
46:14We're both terrible.
46:16Well, you were like Michael Jackson moonwalking backwards this morning, saying, oh, if I fail,
46:22it's because of this or that.
46:25Do you think people in relationships end up just accusations, rumours, whatever, and you
46:29just go round and round in circles?
46:31For the people who criticise the Jeremy Kyle show, the argument would be that you can
46:34come here and you can get a definitive answer straight away.
46:36We asked Stephen, you've been arguing for six months because a person told you at a funeral
46:40he'd touched a woman's backside.
46:42He said, I didn't.
46:43Actually, I had an argument.
46:45We asked him since the start, the very start of your relationship with Alex, have you had
46:48sexual intercourse with anyone else?
46:50He said no.
46:50Why did you say no, pal?
46:51Telling the truth.
46:52Since the start of your relationship with Alex, if you had sexual contact with anyone
47:03else, that would be groping somebody's backside.
47:05He said no.
47:05Why did you say no?
47:06Telling the truth.
47:07Of course he was telling the truth.
47:14Guess what?
47:15Full out.
47:15He passed every single question, Alex.
47:17I'm so sorry.
47:27That was never in doubt.
47:28I'm so sorry.
47:29I'm so sorry.
47:32Somebody will be.
47:33What does that mean?
47:34Got a lot of making up to do.
47:35Yeah.
47:36It's not great to say she's not good in bed when the legs are.
47:40That was anger.
47:41It was anger.
47:41It was wrong.
47:43That's the only way I could fight her.
47:44I, on a serious note, and I'm being serious, I know I've had a bit of a laugh, but I like
47:47these sorts of stories because you've been blocked for six months.
47:51Yeah.
47:51You've been going around in circles.
47:52You've come and done that.
47:53He's passed it.
47:54Forget the rumours.
47:54People say things the whole time.
47:56Just make it work and give her a good time.
48:00I'm so sorry.
48:01But apparently the whole nation now knows I'm rubbish in bed, so.
48:06Well, I don't think you can be, right?
48:09And I think that you can prove that you're not.
48:11And all you can say is, are you ready, Sean?
48:13Well, go on.
48:13I can't do it.
48:14It's really nice to meet you.
48:15Stay there, all right?
48:16Give him a round of applause.
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