مدي 1 تي في : تطورات الحرب على غزة - 26/12/2024
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00:28Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the second part of Al-Hasila.
00:31We will discuss the exchange of accusations between Hamas and Israel
00:35regarding the delay in reaching a ceasefire.
00:39We are very happy to have Dr. Amjad Shihab with us from Jerusalem.
00:44He is a political science professor.
00:46He will be with us from Jerusalem immediately.
00:48Welcome, Dr. Shihab.
00:50We are also happy to have Dr. Salah Al-Abadi from Amman.
00:54He is a writer and political analyst.
00:57Welcome, Dr. Shihab.
00:59Dr. Amjad Shihab, it seems that the time is not appropriate yet
01:04for Israel to agree to this ceasefire.
01:08What is delaying Israel?
01:10What are its plans for the coming days?
01:14Especially since it is not completely moving away from reaching a ceasefire.
01:18But it seems that the time is not right yet.
01:23Welcome, ladies and gentlemen.
01:28There is no intention or will by this government to complete an agreement.
01:34They always try to deceive the internal front,
01:38to give false information,
01:41but every time they try to pressure
01:44to reach a ceasefire by the Hamas movement.
01:50And every time the Hamas movement offers concessions,
01:53they do so by adding additional conditions.
01:57The Hamas movement agreed to keep the occupation army
02:01in the Philadelphia center, the Salah Al-Din center,
02:06and also in the Nisarim area.
02:08It agreed to the same formula that Hezbollah agreed to,
02:13to stop the confrontations and ceasefire.
02:18But every time they start with new demands.
02:22This time they want details about the number of prisoners
02:29for the Hamas movement.
02:32This is one of the documents that the Hamas movement
02:36can get in return.
02:42There is also a veto on a large number of prisoners
02:48for high sentences.
02:51This is another indication.
02:54There is also an insistence on the process of
02:56expelling all the Palestinian prisoners from abroad.
02:59There is also a guarantee of a ceasefire,
03:04and also the end of these massacres.
03:07Israel is only looking to buy time
03:12and to manage the file,
03:15but not to solve this file.
03:18Although the opinion is that 74% of the opinions
03:23of the Israeli Internal Affairs Committee
03:26strongly support the completion of this deal.
03:31Dr. Al-Abbadi, what are the new conditions
03:34that Dr. Amjad Shihab talked about?
03:37Are they conditions that increase from time to time?
03:41What are the pressure papers that Hamas has today?
03:45And what is the ceiling for the negotiations?
03:47What is the biggest ceiling that Hamas can allow?
03:51Good evening to you and to your honored guest
03:56and to all the viewers of this channel
03:58that we are always proud of.
04:00To be objective, the government of Benjamin Netanyahu
04:06was reluctant from the beginning,
04:09because Benjamin Netanyahu has been wanting
04:12to continue this war for more than 445 days.
04:16We were reluctant to enter this war for 447 days.
04:20So, he was reluctant with the conditions
04:22and he wanted to continue this war.
04:25I believe that if God did not decide,
04:27Benjamin Netanyahu would have destroyed the Gaza Strip
04:31and completely destroyed the Strip.
04:33And who knows?
04:34This war will not stop
04:36and he will continue to talk about possible threats.
04:38Because everyone knows that Benjamin Netanyahu
04:41fears the results that will be for him
04:46in the next day of this war,
04:49especially that it is meaningful to continue this war
04:52until he remains the prime minister of Israel
04:54and continues to rule.
04:56Today, he is defending his seat.
04:58Therefore, today, in my opinion,
05:01and I said it a few days ago
05:03through this screen that we are always proud of,
05:06that Hamas realizes completely
05:09that what is presented today
05:11will not be presented after Donald Trump
05:15takes over the presidency of the United States of America.
05:18What do you mean by this, doctor?
05:21Everyone knows that Donald Trump
05:24is the most aggressive and aggressive to Israel.
05:28Donald Trump sent a message
05:30through the famous tweet
05:32about two weeks ago
05:34when he hinted that
05:36if the deal is not reached
05:39and the release of the Israeli hostages,
05:42there will be consequences in the Middle East.
05:46Therefore, Donald Trump
05:49will be strict in dealing with this issue.
05:53It is the interest of Hamas to accept
05:55and to provide the hostages.
05:57But the one who solves the problems
05:59is Benjamin Netanyahu.
06:01Benjamin Netanyahu sees that
06:03Donald Trump is getting closer to Saleh.
06:05Therefore, he does not agree to end this war.
06:08Dr. Amjad Shihab,
06:10on the other hand,
06:11there are those who believe that Netanyahu
06:13will accept at least
06:15the first part of the agreement
06:18as a gift,
06:19even if it is symbolic of Donald Trump.
06:23Yes, it is an attempt from the past
06:25to complete a partial agreement
06:27and not a complete agreement.
06:29There are some claims
06:31to the US embassy,
06:33and this was a promise from President Biden
06:35to release them
06:37as American citizens.
06:39Also, the main idea
06:41of a partial agreement
06:43was useful for both parties,
06:45but Netanyahu,
06:47we do not know
06:49what is the main reason
06:51for not completing it.
06:53However,
06:55the idea of completing a partial agreement
06:57or what they call
06:59a small deal
07:01on payments
07:03is stopped, as it happened
07:05in November 2023
07:07when the Hamas movement
07:09started to launch
07:11the Israeli prisoners
07:13for human reasons
07:15and also
07:17for medical reasons
07:19and so on.
07:21However, we are always surprised
07:23that Netanyahu's strategy is the same.
07:25He wants to keep
07:27his government in control,
07:29he does not want a reaction,
07:31he wants to continue
07:33to achieve more achievements,
07:35he wants to move forward
07:37without any requirements
07:39to form an investigation committee
07:41for what happened on October 7th,
07:43and to continue
07:45to destroy
07:47and kill
07:49his people
07:51inside the Israeli interior.
07:53He also wants to
07:55support the Gaza Strip
07:57to achieve greater achievements.
07:59He has a file on destruction, killing,
08:01massacres and daily bombing.
08:03He also has a file
08:05on humanitarian aid.
08:07He has a file
08:09on withdrawal.
08:11He has a file on ceasefire.
08:13He also has a file on reconstruction.
08:15All these files
08:17he wants to keep
08:19for the greatest achievements
08:21he can achieve.
08:23Maybe he wants to add
08:25a file on normalization
08:27with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
08:29under the conditions of stopping these massacres
08:31and also
08:33stopping
08:35everything that is happening
08:37in the Gaza Strip.
08:39Therefore, he wants to hear
08:41about the upcoming
08:43negotiations
08:45between Israel
08:47and the United States
08:49to achieve
08:51the greatest achievements
08:53possible,
08:55especially since
08:57so far
08:59Hamas has not
09:01given up.
09:03He expected
09:05Hamas to give up
09:07and accept
09:09all the conditions.
09:11He wants to achieve
09:13the greatest achievements
09:15in history
09:17since its establishment
09:19to this day.
09:21This may help him
09:23to reduce the legal
09:25prosecutions against
09:27criminal files.
09:29He also has a file
09:31in his office.
09:33There is an investigation committee
09:35in the information leaks
09:37that are considered
09:39trying as much as possible
09:41to prepare
09:43for the upcoming elections
09:45in order to keep
09:47the prime minister for as long
09:49as possible in his political life.
09:51Therefore, I do not think
09:53he is really interested
09:55in the idea of releasing
09:57all the prisoners
09:59in exchange for the reduction of the Hamas movement.
10:01This will be considered
10:03not acceptance and not
10:05achieving what is called
10:07his slogans
10:09to achieve
10:11absolute victory.
10:13No one knows what absolute victory means,
10:15but I want to make sure
10:17that he was able to achieve
10:19a strategic victory
10:21without any discussion
10:23with the opposition
10:25and the Israeli internal front.
10:27This strategic victory
10:29must pass
10:31with political gains.
10:33What we know now
10:35about what Israel has achieved
10:37is the killing of thousands of Palestinians
10:39in addition to the demographic
10:41liberation, but on the ground
10:43what has been achieved from these great victories?
10:47In fact, Benjamin Netanyahu
10:49did not achieve for Israel
10:51security, stability, peace
10:53and tranquility. He did not achieve
10:55economic prosperity.
10:57Everyone knows exactly
10:59how many Israeli immigrants
11:01who left Israel
11:03during the past period
11:05left as a result of
11:07political circumstances.
11:09Therefore, there are no political
11:11victories for Netanyahu's government.
11:13There are more losses.
11:15We have seen in the past
11:17the violent clashes
11:19between the Israeli army
11:21and the resistance factions
11:23in the north of the Gaza Strip.
11:25It is true that Netanyahu
11:27prevents the arrival of humanitarian
11:29and food and medicine
11:31to the people of the Gaza Strip
11:33in general, and specifically
11:35to the people of the northern region.
11:37He continues with the
11:39war machine of bombing and destruction.
11:41All this is in order to achieve
11:43personal interests
11:45and to ensure
11:47survival for as long as possible
11:49as Prime Minister of Israel.
11:51Therefore, when we talk
11:53about this bloody war,
11:55there are no positive results
11:57that can be achieved
11:59by continuing this war.
12:01However, everyone knows
12:03that the only solution
12:05is to establish the Palestinian state
12:07under the four lines
12:09from June 1967
12:11and to achieve
12:13a political settlement
12:15with the two states.
12:17However, Netanyahu wants
12:19to ignite the fronts.
12:21We have seen in the past
12:23how the Lebanese southern front
12:25ended with the signing of the agreement.
12:27We have seen how some areas
12:29in Adjolan
12:31were occupied
12:33and the Israeli forces
12:35became a few kilometers
12:37from the city of Damascus.
12:39All this is in order
12:41to ignite the region
12:43and to ignite the crises
12:45in order to ensure
12:47your survival as Prime Minister.
12:49Therefore, there are no
12:51Israeli achievements for the
12:53Israeli people.
12:55Anyone who follows
12:57the Israeli media
12:59will notice the reality of the
13:01suffering of the Israelis
13:03as a result of the lack of
13:05a sense of security and stability.
13:07This is a very natural thing.
13:09It is impossible to guarantee
13:11the security of Israel
13:13if there is no serious
13:15and realistic talk
13:17about the security of the Palestinians.
13:19Therefore, the equation
13:21must be clear.
13:23We must stop the war
13:25and stop the Israeli occupation.
13:27Dr. Shihab, some people
13:29consider that what Netanyahu
13:31has achieved is first of all
13:33all the lands that he annexed
13:35to Israel during this war.
13:37Is this considered an achievement?
13:41Yes, there are no lands
13:43that he has annexed.
13:45The ceasefire agreement
13:47with Hezbollah was withdrawn
13:49within 60 days.
13:51The ceasefire agreement
13:53with Hezbollah was withdrawn
13:55within 60 days.
13:57The Gaza Strip
13:59did not include the lands
14:01of Israel.
14:03The Gaza Strip was under
14:05Israeli control.
14:07It was an open prison.
14:09The West Bank lands
14:11are different from 1967.
14:13There are no new lands.
14:15But there are plans to build
14:17settlements in these areas.
14:19No, the settlements
14:21began in 1967.
14:23There is an increase in the number of settlements.
14:25But he hopes to annex
14:27the Jem area.
14:29According to the agreements,
14:31the so-called Area C,
14:33according to Oslo's understanding,
14:35he is planning to
14:37sign a law for the church
14:39and officially announce
14:41the annexation of Area C, which
14:43contains 62% of the West Bank.
14:45He was trying to do that
14:47during the first presidential term
14:49of Trump.
14:51But he was under pressure.
14:53I think he can do that now.
14:55But on the level of annexing the lands,
14:57he did not include the lands of the Jem
14:59in 1981.
15:01There are international
15:03pressures to withdraw
15:05from the isolated areas
15:07that are being occupied.
15:09What prevents Netanyahu
15:11from annexing these lands?
15:13He wants
15:15the approval of the United States.
15:17The Jem area was approved
15:19by Trump
15:21and was annexed
15:23in 1981.
15:25The area of Jerusalem
15:27was also approved by Trump
15:29when he moved the US embassy
15:31from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
15:33But no
15:35Western countries followed him.
15:37There are only a few countries,
15:39but mainly the United States.
15:41As for the West Bank,
15:43there are promises,
15:45especially that funding
15:47from the election campaign
15:49for President Trump
15:51was from one of the
15:53billionaires,
15:55the Jews.
15:57There was a deal
15:59to agree
16:01on the annexation of the Jem areas
16:03from the West Bank
16:05to the occupying country.
16:07He is waiting for that.
16:09He is waiting
16:11for a ceasefire
16:13because there is no war there.
16:15There is aggression, occupation, and massacres.
16:17He is waiting for that
16:19in the hope that Trump will come
16:21and perhaps contribute to
16:23blinding the eyes of the US administration
16:25in the policy of hunger
16:27to prevent the entry of humanitarian aid.
16:29It is also a known fact
16:31that he may be able
16:33to win a field victory
16:35or a political one.
16:37He has not yet been able to win it.
16:39The West Bank has agreed
16:41on the annexation of the Jem areas.
16:43In the case of the two-state solution,
16:45Trump does not support
16:47the two-state solution at all.
16:49He supports, ideologically,
16:51the transformation of the Palestinian cause
16:53into a humanitarian cause
16:55in need of economic privileges
16:57and economic projects.
16:59He suggested it in the first
17:01presidential term,
17:03under the agreement of the century,
17:05but the Palestinian Authority
17:07did not agree with it.
17:09The situation was not social,
17:11especially since the Arab countries
17:13also rejected the idea
17:15of eliminating the Palestinian cause.
17:17He thinks now,
17:19and perhaps Netanyahu thinks so,
17:21that it is possible to eliminate
17:23the Palestinian cause,
17:25because it was part of his election program
17:27in December 2022,
17:29two years ago,
17:31that the file on the Palestinian cause
17:33will be, during this period,
17:35the finalization of the Palestinian file
17:37and not the administration of the Palestinian file.
17:39He believes that he can,
17:41in the coming months,
17:43finalize the Palestinian file
17:45by transforming it
17:47only into the cause of refugees,
17:49a humanitarian cause,
17:51and not the cause of a people
17:53looking for the right to a final report.
17:55Therefore, we see that laws
17:57have been enacted in churches
17:59to prevent this,
18:01and also today there were laws
18:03that prohibit 80 votes
18:05from 120,
18:07and they talk about more than
18:09two-thirds of the members of the church
18:11must agree on any,
18:13and this is impossible
18:15from the legislative point of view,
18:17especially with the presence
18:19of large, different numbers,
18:21and especially the presence
18:23of extremist right-wingers
18:25in the government appointments.
18:27Thank you. Mr. Abadi,
18:29what about the Hamas movement
18:31and the Arab leadership?
18:33What are the pressure papers
18:35that remain?
18:37We listened to Dr. Shehab
18:39who said that Israel
18:41expected to surrender to Hamas,
18:43but it is still standing.
18:45As for the Arab countries,
18:47there are no pressure papers
18:49against Israel,
18:51except
18:53the way of dealing
18:55with Hamas.
18:57There are no pressure papers
18:59against Israel,
19:01and there is no pressure
19:03to deal with Hamas
19:05to force
19:07Hamas to accept it.
19:09But in reality,
19:11to be logical and rational,
19:13the problem is in the hands
19:15of the Israelis,
19:17because the Israeli side
19:19has been aggressive.
19:21The differences
19:23in the negotiations
19:25through the mediators
19:27have not been resolved
19:29by the Israeli side.
19:31Donald Trump fully realizes
19:33that a few days
19:35are less than a month
19:37from the appointment
19:39of the US President.
19:41Therefore,
19:43it is not in the interest
19:45of Netanyahu
19:47to reach an agreement
19:49with Hamas through the mediators,
19:51because he wants
19:53to escalate the situation.
19:55Netanyahu is against
19:57the idea of establishing
19:59the Palestinian state.
20:01Now everyone knows
20:03that Netanyahu wants
20:05to establish a barrier
20:07between Jordan and the other side.
20:09This means that he wants
20:11to take 27%
20:13of the land
20:15that is on the other side
20:17of the Palestinian land,
20:19which is land that
20:21belongs to the Palestinian
20:23people in the West Bank.
20:25He wants to evict them
20:27from their territories
20:29to the West Bank.
20:31He has plans
20:33to expand
20:35the territory of the West Bank.
20:37Two weeks ago,
20:39he built 22
20:41communications towers
20:43in different areas
20:45of the West Bank.
20:47All this is part
20:49of a series of plans.
20:51Therefore, everything
20:53that is happening
20:55at the moment
20:57serves Netanyahu's
20:59interests,
21:01especially with Donald Trump
21:03returning to the United States.
21:05What will Donald Trump do
21:07to change the situation?
21:09First of all,
21:11Donald Trump rejects
21:13the idea of a two-state solution.
21:15He is against the Palestinians.
21:17He sees Israel as a small country
21:19and is sad about it.
21:21He began to sympathize
21:23with the small area of Israeli land.
21:25This was a clear indication
21:27that Donald Trump
21:29wants to increase
21:31the area of Israel
21:33at the expense of the West Bank.
21:35Therefore,
21:37UNRWA will suffer
21:39severe financial difficulties
21:41more than the current
21:43difficulties with the arrival of Donald Trump.
21:45The Middle East
21:47will suffer more
21:49than the arrival of Donald Trump.
21:51Israel will be more
21:53protected, more generous
21:55and healthier.
21:59Everyone understands
22:01that Donald Trump
22:03has no humanity,
22:05no democracy,
22:07no freedom.
22:09The region will suffer
22:11great consequences after his return.
22:13The Palestinians will suffer.
22:15This is the case
22:17in the interests of the Israelis
22:19at the expense of the Palestinian cause.
22:21Thank you Dr. Sala'a Al-Abadi
22:23for everything you said.
22:25Thank you
22:27to Dr. Amjad Shihab
22:29who was with us from Jerusalem.
22:31I was very happy to have you.
22:33Thank you very much.
22:35We will return
22:37to you in a short newscast.
22:39Please stay with us.
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