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Sam and Jack are back with the latest Boston Celtics talk. They discuss Blake Griffin's recent comments about the Celtics on the Fore Play pod, the three free agents the Celtics are bringing in for workouts, and Cooper Flagg's desire to play for the Celtics and with Jayson Tatum. Plus, they talk James Harden, Zion Williamson, and the next NBA star to be traded. Let us know your thoughts, and as always, thanks for listening to How 'Bout Them Celtics!

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0:00 - 2:06 Intro
2:06 - 7:30 Blake Griffin on Fore Play pod
7:30 - 18:44 Celtics working out free agents
18:44 - 22:13 Kristaps Porzingis breaks silence on injury
22:13 - 35:23 Brad Stevens-Danny Ainge one-two punch
35:23 - 44:24 Best moment Celtics
44:24 - 51:38 Cooper Flagg wants to play with Jayson Tatum
51:38 - 55:54 James Harden drama update
55:54 - 58:01 Lonzo Ball vs. Stephen A. Smith
58:01 - 01:03:20 Zion Williamson
01:03:20 - 01:04:52 Pelicans new court
01:04:52 - 01:05:48 Hornets new city jerseys
01:05:48 - 01:10:20 Sam’s Reddit post of the day
01:10:20 - 01:22:14 The Rat List
01:22:14 - 01:23:46 Outro

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00:00:00 [MUSIC]
00:00:10 >> And we are back with another episode of How 'Bout Them Celtics.
00:00:13 Sam and I are here recording on Wednesday, August 23rd.
00:00:17 Again, dead middle of nowhere summer, but we somehow have plenty of content.
00:00:22 If you guys tune in- >> Little over a month.
00:00:24 >> Yeah, yeah, we're close, we're getting there.
00:00:26 We're getting there to some stuff, but- >> We're like three quarters of the way
00:00:29 through.
00:00:29 >> [LAUGH] >> We were having a circle jerk at the
00:00:32 beginning of the month, we were like, yeah, we've been doing so good, whatever.
00:00:36 And then I was like, yeah, we have two more months of this.
00:00:39 We're halfway through.
00:00:41 >> Well, summer league gave us false hope,
00:00:43 cuz we grinded through summer league.
00:00:44 We had plenty of stuff, and then I think we underestimated how much dead time.
00:00:48 I mean, the game show we did was fun.
00:00:50 If you tuned into the game show, we appreciate you.
00:00:52 If you haven't seen it, it's up as a video on our channel now, or
00:00:54 as a live stream.
00:00:55 >> A lot of people watch it just- >> Find it.
00:00:57 >> All over the place.
00:00:58 >> Yeah, it's uploaded everywhere.
00:00:59 You'll find it places.
00:01:00 But if you haven't seen it yet, we had the first of the four guys on the program.
00:01:05 We did a game show with them.
00:01:06 Shout out to the winner, who I won't name, because go watch it.
00:01:09 You should go find out for yourself.
00:01:11 I almost did it, and I was like, wait a second.
00:01:12 >> We'll be- >> For some reason.
00:01:13 >> Talking to them tonight, live, CLNS, at 8 PM, as you listen to Saturday.
00:01:18 >> Yes, yes.
00:01:19 >> So we'll be there.
00:01:20 >> We're recording this on Wednesday.
00:01:21 Sam said tonight, and I had a little panic attack run through my heart,
00:01:24 cuz I thought he meant tonight actually.
00:01:25 I was like, wait, didn't you miss something?
00:01:27 >> I didn't know about the movie magic of publishing the next day.
00:01:30 >> [LAUGH] No, Jack just forgets what day it is sometimes, so I-
00:01:33 >> Yeah, literally every time we do
00:01:35 a show, you forget.
00:01:36 You have to look at the phone.
00:01:37 >> I know, I know.
00:01:38 Well, it's cuz I don't have, I always say I don't have an actual job, but
00:01:42 writing is my job, so I just sit at my desk all day.
00:01:44 So days blend together, cuz I don't get weekends either.
00:01:47 I just sit here and write and do the same thing every day.
00:01:50 So I'm not complaining, it's just I struggle to remember.
00:01:53 >> I started taking weekends.
00:01:53 I used to not take them.
00:01:54 >> [LAUGH] >> But I was like, no,
00:01:56 I need to have days where I just relax.
00:01:59 >> Yeah, maybe I do that.
00:02:00 I've started laxing a little bit on weekends, but it's a grind, man.
00:02:04 You gotta do what you gotta do.
00:02:05 But we have Celtics content for you guys today,
00:02:09 the first of which is Blake Griffin talking about the Celtics.
00:02:14 We'll start with this because I wanted to talk about it.
00:02:16 I feel like I kind of sparked the conversation,
00:02:19 not to pat myself on the back, but I tweeted about this.
00:02:23 So Blake Griffin joined the 4Play pod, which is Barstool's golf channel,
00:02:28 which I very much enjoy.
00:02:29 He was with Dan Rapoport and they played nine at mine, which is where they,
00:02:33 Dan basically goes around and plays nine holes with celebrities and
00:02:36 other people at their home course.
00:02:38 And Blake Griffin is a member of this country club in LA, I believe it is.
00:02:42 And Dan is also a member there, so they played nine holes.
00:02:44 And throughout the round and the nine holes,
00:02:46 Dan asked them questions about their life.
00:02:49 And so he asked Blake about his career, start with the Clippers, Chris Paul.
00:02:52 He asked, are you retiring?
00:02:54 And he was like, I don't know, we'll see.
00:02:58 And then he asked him about Boston.
00:03:00 And Blake was very hyped when he mentioned Boston.
00:03:04 And I tweeted it, the video of them, and a lot of people liked it.
00:03:09 Dan, 4Play pod itself liked the tweet, Trent and Dan from Barstool.
00:03:14 Jamal Crawford liked the tweet, which is very weird.
00:03:16 I was like, why?
00:03:17 >> Jack just reporting on who likes his tweets.
00:03:20 I don't see any, hey, will you come on the podcast, acknowledge me.
00:03:24 >> All right, all right, it's not all about the podcast.
00:03:26 But no, I tweet this and I see a lot of people, it gained traction.
00:03:32 And then I start seeing pop ups.
00:03:33 So I'm like, I mean, I kind of saw the opportunity because I watched this
00:03:37 channel anyway, so I tweeted the video and I was glad to see people picked it up.
00:03:40 But Blake Griffin basically saying verbatim, dude, Boston is unbelievable.
00:03:45 Living in Boston, playing in Boston was one of the best experiences.
00:03:48 And it wasn't even playing a lot of minutes.
00:03:50 The fans are incredible, the team,
00:03:51 just having that championship focused environment.
00:03:54 They do everything they can to be the best.
00:03:55 He talked a lot about Tatum, about how Tatum's a great guy on and
00:03:59 off the court, talks to everybody, very personable, and obviously a superstar.
00:04:03 So everything Blake says, I loved being in Boston and
00:04:07 playing for the Celtics, which is great.
00:04:09 Report came out today from, I think, Sam Amico.
00:04:12 It was Amico, who, I know there's two Amicos, and I always get confused.
00:04:16 But he said that the Celtics, Sixers, Clippers, and
00:04:18 Warriors have shown an interest in Blake Griffin.
00:04:21 So we'll have to see what shakes up.
00:04:22 But from his speech or his appearance on the foreplay pod,
00:04:26 which is just he played nine holes of golf, go check it out on their channel.
00:04:30 He likes the Celtics, which is good to hear.
00:04:31 >> Yeah, I thought Blake Griffin's take on the Celtics was really interesting
00:04:37 because he's been a guy even way before he came to town,
00:04:40 was kind of connected with it.
00:04:42 I remember when he was on the Clippers, he was obviously in the building when it
00:04:46 was Paul Pierce's last game.
00:04:48 And I remember him talking about being impressed with the reception Pierce got
00:04:53 when he came back for the final time.
00:04:55 So he's always had a little bit of an understanding of what the crowd's like,
00:04:59 the atmosphere.
00:05:00 But it's always great when you hear guys,
00:05:02 especially stars that spent a big bulk of their career somewhere else,
00:05:06 praising the city, praising the team, saying how great it is.
00:05:09 Because I think it helps the reputation where there are other things that happen
00:05:13 that do not help it, such as trading a guy that tours ACL and
00:05:17 never played for you.
00:05:18 And he was all excited to play for your franchise and you trade him.
00:05:23 Or trading the guy that played for nine years or
00:05:25 trading the guy that played through hip injury.
00:05:28 And when his sister passed away,
00:05:30 there's so many things you can point to be like the Celtics are scumbags.
00:05:34 But then every once in a while someone's like, hey,
00:05:36 it kind of rules to play for them.
00:05:37 And it's like, yeah, it does rule, the fans are the best.
00:05:40 So I'm happy that Blake Griffin likes to hear the fan base obviously likes
00:05:44 Blake Griffin.
00:05:44 I kind of wrote a small, like a shallow dive for
00:05:49 Celtics blog just into the whole situation.
00:05:52 Earlier this summer,
00:05:53 we heard that the Celtics were interested in bringing him back.
00:05:55 It's just a debate whether or not he wants to leave his family for
00:05:59 another year on the West Coast.
00:06:01 But Blake Griffin was really good for the Celtics when he actually played.
00:06:05 And we've talked about this a zillion times in the last two weeks.
00:06:07 This is really only looming storyline.
00:06:10 But when he started like eight points, five rebounds, good, efficient splits,
00:06:14 like he was okay, hustled.
00:06:17 He gave the Celtics probably more than they bargained for
00:06:19 when they brought him in last summer.
00:06:21 So I don't see any reason not to bring him back.
00:06:23 He was a good presence on the team.
00:06:25 I like him.
00:06:26 But the weird thing is it was all past tense, which I guess is accurate,
00:06:31 because it did happen.
00:06:33 >> I think it was just reflecting on the- >> But if you really wanna microscope,
00:06:36 crystal ball, tinfoil hat,
00:06:38 it sounds like he could be done playing here too.
00:06:43 So I don't know.
00:06:44 >> I don't know. I feel like he was just reflecting on the year,
00:06:46 cuz it happened in the past.
00:06:48 I feel like if he's gonna reassign anywhere,
00:06:51 I would hope it would be the Celtics.
00:06:53 Would he really, what is the draw?
00:06:55 Obviously, like you said, being closer to his family.
00:06:58 But in terms of a team environment, my point is that seems like the only factor
00:07:02 that would take him away from Boston is the family thing, which is a valid reason.
00:07:06 I'm not diminishing it, but I don't know.
00:07:08 It's good to hear him speak highly of Boston,
00:07:10 especially cuz it seems like- >> On a national platform.
00:07:12 >> The Celtics have brought him back.
00:07:13 Yeah, yeah, got a lot of views, and it was good to watch.
00:07:16 Go watch it.
00:07:17 Blake Griffin hits the ball very far.
00:07:18 >> Go watch Jack's tweet.
00:07:20 >> No, go watch 4Play Pod's video.
00:07:22 Blake Griffin hammers his drives.
00:07:24 They go very far, and he's entertaining.
00:07:26 He's a character off the court, obviously, which he's made a clip of.
00:07:29 Anyways, the next piece of Celtics info we have, they're working out some players.
00:07:34 The Celtics are bringing in a few guys for workouts.
00:07:37 Shams Charania of The Athletic reported that they are going to meet with TJ Warren
00:07:42 and Lamar Stevens, and then I believe it was- >> Michael Scotto.
00:07:45 >> Michael Scotto of Hoops Hype who reported they're also going to be meeting
00:07:49 with Lewis King.
00:07:50 All three are going to be in Boston for workouts this week, and
00:07:53 all are in consideration for a potential contract.
00:07:58 And I mean, we can talk about it now.
00:08:00 I know when Lamar Stevens got waved by the Spurs, he was somebody I mentioned,
00:08:03 I think very randomly and briefly here, as somebody I liked.
00:08:07 >> You definitely dropped him.
00:08:08 >> Just out of nowhere a little bit, but Hustle Defender, he's 6'6",
00:08:13 he's only 26 years old.
00:08:14 He's a hustle guy, he's not a great shooter.
00:08:17 He likes the mid-range a bit more than threes.
00:08:20 From what I saw, I know, Sam, that would speak to you a little bit,
00:08:23 less so than Joe Mizzoula.
00:08:24 Very athletic, he's a hustle guy.
00:08:27 He killed the Celtics.
00:08:29 I distinctly remember, I forget what game it was, and
00:08:33 I'll find it while you talk about it.
00:08:35 >> Might have been the I'm gonna make both game.
00:08:37 >> Maybe, but he didn't kill them with points.
00:08:39 He got like five offensive rebounds.
00:08:41 >> It was definitely that game then, cuz they couldn't close the game.
00:08:44 >> Yeah.
00:08:44 >> I wrote about the three candidates for Harwood Houdini today.
00:08:51 And I went in thinking maybe TJ Warren's the best, and
00:08:54 I really thought about it more.
00:08:56 And I think I do like Lamar Stevens the best.
00:08:58 I think he has just the potential to be a guy that's helpful, no matter what.
00:09:03 Because if he's gonna bring it on defense,
00:09:05 then any added bonus you get on offense is great.
00:09:08 But the baseline is you need to play defense.
00:09:10 You're not going to hurt the team as much if you're a better defender,
00:09:14 as opposed to being an offensive minded player who doesn't play defense.
00:09:18 Cuz you're gonna get yourself on the court if you're trying.
00:09:21 That's kinda how it goes.
00:09:23 And I don't hate that if you look at his basketball reference,
00:09:28 yes, the three point shooting is not good.
00:09:31 But each year it's gone up, 16% rookie year.
00:09:34 In the 20s, second year, last year, 31.5% from three.
00:09:39 So steady improvement there shows a little bit of a work ethic,
00:09:43 desire to be better.
00:09:44 If the Southerners bring him in,
00:09:46 it wouldn't shock me if he's able to get some kind of small role.
00:09:50 Does that mean he's gonna play in the playoffs?
00:09:51 Is he gonna be the eight man rotation?
00:09:52 Probably not.
00:09:54 But it doesn't mean that he can't play spot minutes,
00:09:57 can't be a good option off the bench.
00:09:58 Especially after losing smart and Grant Williams,
00:10:01 you kind of need a little bit of an extra defensive presence.
00:10:04 That was one thing I kind of alluded to in the article.
00:10:07 As for the other two, Louis King spent most of his time in the G League with
00:10:12 Philly last year, played one NBA game, 32 appearances for
00:10:16 the Bluecoats in Delaware.
00:10:18 His stats for the G League, 16.5 points, five assists, four something rebounds,
00:10:23 and a steal and a half per game on decent shooting splits.
00:10:27 He's a do everything guy.
00:10:28 The Celtics, I'm pretty sure, still have a two way spot open.
00:10:31 So I'd imagine that's really where he comes into play.
00:10:35 When we first got the report, it was like, maybe he's in contention for
00:10:38 one of these final two spots.
00:10:39 But I would imagine two way is the way that it's gonna go for
00:10:42 him if he ends up with the Celtics.
00:10:44 >> I agree, and for what it's worth, not that he would settle for this,
00:10:47 Lamar Stevens is technically eligible for a two way spot as well.
00:10:50 Because he has less than four years of NBA experience.
00:10:53 You could kind of liken it to Cabin Gale, signing a two way deal with Boston after
00:10:58 playing real minutes and being on a real standard deal.
00:11:01 Just for shits and giggles, I have the exact stats.
00:11:07 It was five offensive rebounds in the fourth quarter.
00:11:10 If you're watching on YouTube, we're not gonna-
00:11:13 >> Yep, this was definitely the I'm gonna make both game,
00:11:15 cuz they were up a fuck ton, and then they just blew it.
00:11:19 >> Celtics are currently up 14 points as Lamar Stevens grabs an offensive rebound
00:11:23 that nobody on the Celtics go for.
00:11:25 >> Just play the Hall of the Mountain King as you watch them blow this lead.
00:11:28 Like, it's down to seven now.
00:11:30 >> Mm-hm.
00:11:31 >> Look at that.
00:11:32 >> So we get this lead.
00:11:33 Lamar Stevens- >> Rebound.
00:11:34 >> Finds another offensive rebound.
00:11:37 He had five in the first quarter, like I said.
00:11:38 >> 5-11 with four and a half to go, by the way.
00:11:40 >> Just gets right by Jay- >> Offensive rebound.
00:11:43 >> Mm-hm.
00:11:46 >> These guys are the worst.
00:11:48 >> Yeah. >> I hate this Celtics team.
00:11:50 >> [LAUGH] Lamar Stevens just killed the Celtics on the offensive glass in
00:11:53 the fourth quarter.
00:11:54 Celtics are up by three with less than two.
00:11:55 >> Wow, where'd the lead go?
00:11:57 >> Step back, and that one was a bit unlucky.
00:12:01 I'm not gonna call anybody at the Celtics out for that one, but yeah.
00:12:04 >> If you're not available.
00:12:05 >> [LAUGH] Lamar Stevens just killed them.
00:12:07 He's a hustle guy on the offensive glass and defensive glass.
00:12:11 I tweeted out a few highlights that I saw while I was waiting for
00:12:15 my brother cuz I dropped the meth at the dentist.
00:12:17 And so I was sitting in the car and I got bored.
00:12:18 And so I just looked up Lamar Stevens highlights.
00:12:20 He likes the mid-range shot.
00:12:22 He's a hustle guy, plays solid defense.
00:12:25 To me, that's what I'd rather have.
00:12:27 TJ Warren's cool, right?
00:12:28 And it's cool to think about, bubble TJ Warren, what if he could find that again?
00:12:32 That's just not how the NBA works.
00:12:35 That would be like the Lakers signing a bunch of old guys to go with their core
00:12:39 three two years ago, and we saw how that worked out.
00:12:43 Lewis King is interesting, but he's more of a two-way guy like Sam said.
00:12:45 Lamar Stevens has, like Sam said, his three-point shot has steadily improved over
00:12:49 the past three seasons, as have his minutes.
00:12:51 He played 12 minutes, 40 games, 16 minutes, 63 games, 18 minutes, 62 games,
00:12:57 but started 25 in them last year for the Cavs, for a pretty good Cavs team.
00:13:01 He was in the mix for that, who was gonna start at the small forward spot.
00:13:07 And the only reason the Cavs let him go is cuz they were trying to get
00:13:09 Max Drewson there, so they had to package him together to make that work.
00:13:13 I don't know, he just makes the most sense.
00:13:15 He's not old, he's like 26 years old.
00:13:17 He's 6'6", good size, he's 230, so he's bigger bodied as well.
00:13:23 He's kinda like Grant without the three-point shot.
00:13:26 >> No, seriously.
00:13:27 All jokes aside, that was the first thing I thought when I was writing about this.
00:13:30 I was like, okay, if he learns to shoot threes a little bit,
00:13:34 he could fill the Grant role, which is an important role nonetheless.
00:13:36 You still need a little bit of size to come off the bench, play defense, and
00:13:41 just be steady, that's really it.
00:13:44 As for TJ Warren, cuz I didn't really talk about him,
00:13:46 if you're excited about TJ Warren, think about this.
00:13:49 >> [LAUGH] >> The Phoenix Suns traded away their whole
00:13:52 team this summer to get Bradley Beal.
00:13:56 They had, at one point, I think five guys on their roster.
00:13:59 They traded for TJ Warren last trade deadline, right?
00:14:04 >> In the Durant deal, yeah.
00:14:05 >> In the Durant deal, they did not bring back TJ Warren
00:14:10 when they had nobody on their team.
00:14:13 >> Yeah. >> What does that say to you about TJ
00:14:16 Warren?
00:14:17 It means he's just not a guy anymore, and it sucks.
00:14:22 You hate to see guys fall off.
00:14:24 Since that bubble season, he's just been riddled with injuries.
00:14:26 He hasn't been able to stay on the court.
00:14:28 Last year for the Suns, he barely got minutes.
00:14:32 He was at 12 a game, barely played in the playoffs.
00:14:34 He just wasn't there.
00:14:37 He's not there anymore.
00:14:38 I think out of the three, it's Lamar Stevens.
00:14:40 I was writing the article, I ranked the three guys.
00:14:42 I originally had Warren won.
00:14:43 Then I was like, wait a minute.
00:14:45 No, no, Lamar Stevens is the exciting one.
00:14:48 Make no mistake.
00:14:49 >> Yeah, no, I like Lamar Stevens.
00:14:53 I think that'd be my pick.
00:14:54 And then also we have here Brian Rob saying, per league sources,
00:14:57 the Celtics are doing their due diligence by hosting a number of different workouts
00:15:00 ahead of training camp before settling on potential roster options.
00:15:03 Brad Stevens signaled last month that adding help on the wing would be a
00:15:06 priority before next season.
00:15:08 My only thing with that is, do they really need another wing?
00:15:12 As much as it would be cool to have Lamar Stevens, and it wouldn't hurt.
00:15:16 I would probably like to see them add almost any other position.
00:15:19 I mean, they signed O'Shea Brissett, they have Sam Houser still.
00:15:21 They just drafted Jordan Walsh.
00:15:23 What is Lamar, those guys are all fighting for
00:15:26 the same minutes when they could just add a fourth string guard or
00:15:30 fifth string, I guess, behind Donna Bannon or
00:15:32 fourth string center to share minutes with Luke Cornett.
00:15:35 Unless they would rather just play with those four bigs that they have with
00:15:39 the big three of them and including Cornett.
00:15:41 And then if one of them is out, just play smaller and faster, which, I mean,
00:15:45 seems like what they wanted to do last year anyways.
00:15:47 Then that makes sense to just get more wings.
00:15:49 And if that's the plan, then sure, I get it.
00:15:52 But I don't know, it's just a bit weird that they're so focused after signing
00:15:55 O'Shea Brissett and drafting Jordan Walsh and developing Sam Houser to get another
00:15:59 wing in this mix.
00:16:00 That's just weird.
00:16:01 >> I keep forgetting that they have Jordan Walsh on this team,
00:16:04 cuz I'm just thinking, okay, who's on the roster last year?
00:16:07 >> I forget about Sam Houser.
00:16:08 >> When you factor in that all of those guys are there,
00:16:12 this doesn't make as much sense.
00:16:14 But when you forget about one, it's a lot more exciting.
00:16:17 Cuz you're like, yeah, this guy can get minutes.
00:16:19 >> When you forget about one.
00:16:21 >> Yeah, but seriously.
00:16:22 >> Imagine next year Joe Mazzullo's like, Jordan, my bad, bro,
00:16:26 I forgot you were there.
00:16:27 Let's just- >> Well,
00:16:28 Jordan Walsh has to be the most exciting of the bunch.
00:16:30 He showed up in the summer league.
00:16:32 But I keep forgetting he's on the team cuz he hasn't actually played a game yet.
00:16:35 You don't really need to be gambling on guys at this point.
00:16:39 I was gonna go push back, but you're right.
00:16:42 Okay, bring in another big guy, why not?
00:16:45 All three of those guys are kinda injury prone.
00:16:48 Jeff Clark put up the Celtics blog article about how many games you expect
00:16:52 them to play.
00:16:53 And it's like, I don't know, how many?
00:16:55 >> Bring in three.
00:16:57 >> Yeah, Kenneth Freed, why is Kenneth Freed not on the list?
00:16:59 I tweeted at you last night.
00:17:00 I said, where the hell is Kenneth Freed?
00:17:03 The hell? >> I saw, I saw.
00:17:05 >> Did we not put up propaganda for anything?
00:17:07 >> That's what I'm saying, no one listens to us.
00:17:10 This is random and it doesn't exactly have to do.
00:17:13 You mentioned, I think Jordan Walsh is the most exciting.
00:17:16 I agree.
00:17:17 I feel like Sam Houser is somebody a lot of people, at least me,
00:17:20 like I forget about.
00:17:21 I feel like he could play like 25 minutes for the Celtics.
00:17:24 >> Somebody's getting minutes.
00:17:26 >> Well, when you look at Houser's stats last year, when he started,
00:17:30 he averaged like 13 points on like 50% of his game.
00:17:33 Like he was nasty when he got the opportunity.
00:17:35 So he feels like- >> And the efficiency didn't drop.
00:17:37 That's the big thing.
00:17:38 >> It got better.
00:17:38 It got better when he was starting.
00:17:40 It feels like Sam Houser should be the eighth man in the Celtics rotation.
00:17:45 Like everyone's talking about it like, excuse me,
00:17:48 Porzingis is gonna take a lot of these minutes.
00:17:51 He'll probably scoop up some of the rotational minutes that Smart played and
00:17:54 they'll just play bigger instead.
00:17:56 And then Grant will just get replaced by 5% and Jordan Walsh will scoop.
00:17:59 Sam Houser can literally step in and play 25 minutes for the Celtics.
00:18:04 He is one of the best three point shooters in the league.
00:18:07 He was solid on defense last year.
00:18:09 He was great as a starter.
00:18:11 It feels like Sam Houser is really primed to play a lot more minutes next season and
00:18:16 not a lot of people are talking about it.
00:18:18 Maybe that's a video for us.
00:18:19 Maybe we do Sam Houser highlights next,
00:18:21 although as you guys didn't really like the Jason Taylor highlight videos.
00:18:24 >> Yeah, you guys punted it away.
00:18:27 >> Maybe we mix it up, but I don't know.
00:18:29 I'm excited for Houser and then the three forwards Lamar Stevens, TJ Warren,
00:18:33 Lewis King.
00:18:34 It sounds like we're on the same page where Lamar Stevens is probably the most
00:18:36 intriguing option.
00:18:38 >> Yep, if you want more, Hardwood Houdini, click through all the slides,
00:18:41 tell your friends.
00:18:42 >> Go check it out.
00:18:43 Go check it out.
00:18:44 All right, next Celtics thing we have is a Kristaps Porzingis quote.
00:18:47 He talked about the injury.
00:18:48 Obviously, he's not playing in FIBA for Latvia this year because of his
00:18:52 plantar fasciitis.
00:18:53 And he spoke with, can you say this word?
00:18:57 I don't know how to say this.
00:18:59 >> Sportazenis.
00:19:00 >> Sportazenis, which is a Latvian website.
00:19:04 >> I know what this is.
00:19:05 I saw this on Reddit.
00:19:06 >> It's an international- >> I'll tell you what,
00:19:08 if you look at the URL, none of the words make any sense except for his name.
00:19:13 >> Well, Porzingis spoke about the injury for, I think, the first time.
00:19:17 Him personally, outside of his Instagram or Twitter post.
00:19:20 He said, I now have a four to six week plan that I have to follow.
00:19:23 Feelings are good.
00:19:23 Of course, I'm not yet in shape that I can fully play and train.
00:19:27 That I can play and train fully.
00:19:29 But going step by step, everything should be fine by the start of the NBA season.
00:19:33 Obviously, that was translated, so it's not perfect.
00:19:34 But yeah, I mean, it sounds like he's in line.
00:19:38 And it doesn't seem like anybody's too, too worried about it.
00:19:40 It sucks that you're already seeing the injury concerns come to light this early.
00:19:45 But he's never been a fully healthy player.
00:19:48 And it sounds like everybody is confident that he'll be fine by the start of
00:19:51 the season.
00:19:52 And that's what really matters.
00:19:53 So good to hear he's in good spirits.
00:19:55 >> I think Porzingis just went on Twitter and
00:19:58 read the Celtics New England Baptist Hospital injury update.
00:20:02 In whatever interview he was asked, cuz it's literally all it says.
00:20:06 It was cool to be on Reddit and be like, wow, he said something.
00:20:10 And then it's literally the tweet that the team put out.
00:20:13 He has a plan for rehab.
00:20:15 He's gonna be back for the start of the season.
00:20:19 That's all it says.
00:20:19 >> [LAUGH] >> I'm annoyed with all of this.
00:20:22 I wish he wasn't hurt.
00:20:23 It's not a good start to the tenure.
00:20:25 When you give up somebody as important as Marcus Smart, this is not a good look.
00:20:31 People are gonna be pissed.
00:20:32 There's gonna be pressure.
00:20:33 And it's August.
00:20:36 This is the worst time of year for this to happen.
00:20:38 There's literally nothing else for us to focus on.
00:20:40 We're just angry.
00:20:41 >> [LAUGH] >> What the hell?
00:20:43 Why is Porzingis already hurt?
00:20:44 He hasn't even played.
00:20:46 >> Yeah, we gotta talk about it.
00:20:47 >> Did the team know about this?
00:20:49 This is not a new thing.
00:20:50 >> It feels like they probably knew about it.
00:20:53 I mean, I can't imagine they didn't know about it, but he's coming off a great
00:20:57 season, he played a bunch of games.
00:20:58 At some point, you gotta take a risk, I guess, to avoid, cuz I don't know.
00:21:04 We don't have to get too deep into the conversation of the smart trade.
00:21:07 We've talked about it about a million times because there's nothing else to
00:21:09 talk about.
00:21:11 Obviously, would rather them traded Brogdon because smart's a better player,
00:21:14 he's deeper connection to the Celtics organization, all this stuff.
00:21:17 But it just felt like, and I mean, Wick Grosbeck said this,
00:21:21 something had to change.
00:21:22 It felt like you needed to shake something up after going through these same trials
00:21:26 and tribulations every year and falling short every year in almost the same
00:21:29 fashion every year.
00:21:31 Shaking something up, giving you a new look, giving the Celtics, Jason Tate,
00:21:35 this is probably the best third score of the Tatum-Brown era,
00:21:39 at least a different one.
00:21:40 You had Kemba there as the point guard, but
00:21:42 it feels like maybe you need a different look.
00:21:45 >> With these two guys as the best players, yes.
00:21:47 >> Yeah, so- >> Cuz Kemba was supposed to be the first
00:21:50 or second option.
00:21:50 >> That's what I'm saying.
00:21:52 So give him a different look, give him a third high tier scoring option.
00:21:56 >> Better than Grant?
00:21:57 >> [LAUGH] Get out of here.
00:22:00 But good to hear Porzingis in high spirits about his injury.
00:22:03 All right, next thing we have is an article that-
00:22:06 >> Injury report.
00:22:07 >> Hey man, he's talking about it.
00:22:09 Leave me alone, this is August.
00:22:10 >> Feelings are good.
00:22:11 >> [LAUGH] Next thing we have is something I wrote for Celtics blog.
00:22:16 I talked about the Brad Stevens era.
00:22:19 And the way I framed it, and I put it on here cuz I'm curious to know what you
00:22:22 think, I don't know if you read the article, but
00:22:25 I know I talked to you about this when I was writing it.
00:22:29 It feels like Brad Stevens kind of took Danny Ainge's setup and
00:22:36 was able to not finish the job cuz they haven't won a championship yet.
00:22:40 But he has been much more aggressive.
00:22:43 I'll go through the way I framed it.
00:22:44 I'm not gonna read the whole article.
00:22:45 Go to Celtics blog if you wanna read it.
00:22:46 It's just, welcome to front office week,
00:22:48 Brad Stevens ascension to GM has helped them push their new era forward.
00:22:52 That's how I framed it.
00:22:53 Basically I talked about when Brad Stevens was elevated into the GM role,
00:23:00 there was a lot of questions of, and he do this, right?
00:23:04 Basically- >> I was told by any time that he failed
00:23:07 up.
00:23:08 >> Exactly, exactly, failed up is a good way to put it.
00:23:10 And the question mark was, is this the Celtics way of saving money?
00:23:15 Cuz they wanna keep him under contract and they don't wanna just let him go,
00:23:17 right?
00:23:19 Is Brad Stevens going to be too close to these players to trade them?
00:23:22 Clearly, no.
00:23:23 That's the answer, which is a good thing in all in all.
00:23:28 But the way I phrased it was, this is the conclusion to my article, right?
00:23:35 Danny Ainge was so obsessed with hitting home runs after the fleecing of
00:23:41 the Brooklyn Nets, right?
00:23:43 He got Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown.
00:23:47 From that point on, or from the Isaiah Thomas year of trades on,
00:23:51 where he traded for Isaiah Thomas, traded for Jay Crowder.
00:23:53 He made two significant trades in five years, in three, whatever,
00:23:57 how many ever years it was.
00:23:59 From Isaiah Thomas to when Brad Stevens got hired,
00:24:01 he made two significant trades.
00:24:02 And when I say significant, I mean that doesn't include draft day swaps.
00:24:07 And you can say the Jason Tatum trade, but
00:24:09 I mean trades for actual players to help the team, right?
00:24:12 Kyrie Irving- >> I remember the second one.
00:24:14 >> Evan Fortier, Kyrie and Fortier.
00:24:17 Outside of that, it was, let's dump Ennis Freedom and
00:24:19 give up Desmond Brand in the process.
00:24:21 Let's salary dump Vincent Poirier.
00:24:23 And adding these players around the fringes that never get minutes doesn't
00:24:28 count as a significant trade.
00:24:30 I mean trades for rotation players.
00:24:32 He's made two.
00:24:34 In Brad Stevens' first two years, he's made five,
00:24:37 [LAUGH] to get actual players to help the team.
00:24:40 And the way I phrased it was, in 2007, Ainge knocked it out of the park,
00:24:44 earning the Celtics a title, and he then followed up the feat with a flurry
00:24:49 of heralded moves that set Boston up for the future.
00:24:52 Isaiah Thomas, Jay Crowder, all these moves, even trading the pick for
00:24:55 Jason Tatum, doing all this stuff to set them up, drafting all these players.
00:25:00 Grant Williams, Peyton Pritchard, all these solid rookies in the first round,
00:25:03 right, he did all that.
00:25:04 But when it came time to step up to the plate again,
00:25:07 Ainge hesitated, accepting walks when the home run move failed to present itself.
00:25:13 So when he couldn't get the perfect trade, he just kind of did nothing and
00:25:17 accepted small things that didn't actually help.
00:25:20 Brad Stevens instead has hit singles, and some of which have been doubles, and
00:25:24 then maybe this Porzingis thing is the first attempt at a home run that he's
00:25:27 hitting, and he's rounding the bases right now,
00:25:29 waiting to see if he'll be thrown out at home plate.
00:25:30 Sorry for the baseball metaphors, but
00:25:32 that's just the best way I could figure out to phrase it in the article.
00:25:35 But for years, you see Danny Ainge draft these players,
00:25:40 draft Romeo Lankford, maybe he'll be a piece.
00:25:42 Aaron Eastman, maybe he'll be a piece.
00:25:44 Carson Edwards, maybe he'll be a piece.
00:25:46 And then he didn't trade any of them.
00:25:48 All those guys were on the team throughout Ainge's entire tenure.
00:25:51 He didn't trade any of the picks before they were made.
00:25:53 He didn't trade any of the young players before they fizzled out and
00:25:55 had no trade value.
00:25:56 He kept them, and it worked out in the case of Grant Williams,
00:25:59 because he was a solid rotation piece, obviously he didn't play.
00:26:01 Pritchard, it worked out, he's a solid rotation piece, even though-
00:26:03 >> I mean, you have to see what you have
00:26:04 with these guys, you can't trade them right away.
00:26:06 >> I know you can't, but by doing that, you had Jason Tatum and
00:26:12 Jalen Brown competing in the playoffs with Brad Wanamaker as their six most
00:26:15 minutes guy.
00:26:15 Do you know what I'm saying?
00:26:16 He sacrificed quality depth and quality pieces behind them in hopes that one of
00:26:20 these guys will pop in.
00:26:21 Unfortunately, none of them did, and if they did,
00:26:23 I mean, he'd obviously be a genius.
00:26:24 But I think that's where Brad Stevens has taken on a different approach with
00:26:28 the Celtics, where he's not afraid to trade first round picks.
00:26:32 He's not afraid to trade these young guys for
00:26:33 pieces that can help them win now.
00:26:34 Look at the Derek White trade, traded Romeo, traded a 20-28 first that was
00:26:38 protected, traded another first that was protected, and Josh Richardson got a guy
00:26:41 in Derek White who has turned out to be pretty damn good for the Celtics.
00:26:44 You look at the Malcolm Brogdon trade, even though they gave up nothing,
00:26:46 he gave up a first round pick.
00:26:48 He gave up Aaron Neesmith, another young guy, and he got a piece back, right?
00:26:51 These consolidation moves that Ainge didn't really make as much, right?
00:26:56 Cuz even the Evan Fournier trade, he traded, what, two second round picks?
00:26:59 He didn't actually trade anything for Evan Fournier, which was good, but
00:27:02 those are the moves that Danny Ainge liked to make.
00:27:04 Moves where he definitely won the trade, and
00:27:06 if he wasn't gonna do that, then he wasn't gonna make a trade at all, right?
00:27:09 Even look at Brad Stevens' other move, look at this Chris Opspor's English trade.
00:27:13 There's no chance in hell Danny Ainge makes this trade.
00:27:16 You can't convince me that Danny Ainge makes this trade in a million years
00:27:19 because of the backlash, because of how much he loved Marcus Smart.
00:27:22 And because all these things, because he was like, no, Marcus is our guy.
00:27:25 I don't know, I don't know if I'm absolutely- >> I mean, he traded Isaiah Thomas.
00:27:28 >> I know he did, but he got a bonafide, no question superstar, at the time.
00:27:33 Obviously, we know how it turned out.
00:27:35 But he got a guy who was probably a top ten player in the NBA at the time,
00:27:38 top 15 maybe, right?
00:27:40 And as good as Porzingis is, the injury concerns,
00:27:44 the fact that he had to trade Marcus Smart, and I know he traded Isaiah Thomas.
00:27:48 It just seems like Brad Stevens has been more willing to take risks.
00:27:52 And so far it's worked out.
00:27:54 But at the same time, I just feel like Brad Stevens has taken all the assets
00:27:59 that Danny Ainge has gotten, which was a good thing.
00:28:01 He got all these young pieces to use, and he used them to get better win now guys.
00:28:06 And he's thought less about the two timeline thing of win now.
00:28:10 I don't know, I just think it was kind of like, I'm not trying to knock Danny Ainge.
00:28:14 I'm just saying Brad Stevens took what he set up and
00:28:18 reset the GM mindset of, cuz Danny Ainge, obviously, he won the Celtics title, right?
00:28:24 I'm not saying he wasn't a great GM.
00:28:26 But he took the second era of Ainge and everything he set up and
00:28:29 kind of better piece together a winning core around the Jays.
00:28:34 That will help them now and in the future.
00:28:35 I just think it was like a one-two punch of Ainge era title,
00:28:40 second half of Ainge era that bled into Brad Stevens,
00:28:44 who is now setting them up a little bit better than the second era of Ainge.
00:28:48 Well, here's my take.
00:28:50 I think you're half right.
00:28:53 I think the reason why Brad Stevens is so
00:28:57 aggressive is because the time is now, right?
00:29:01 Like Tatum, Brown, pretty much in their primes.
00:29:05 They're probably 85% of what they're ever gonna be.
00:29:10 What do you think that's like a fair number?
00:29:13 >> I think probably, yeah.
00:29:15 I mean, you could quibble if you wanna go to 75.
00:29:17 But like around there, I know what you're saying, yes.
00:29:20 >> So you kinda have to start setting them up to succeed when they're at their best.
00:29:24 Credit to Stevens, he's absolutely done that.
00:29:27 He has been fearless.
00:29:28 He's made a lot of great moves, as you mentioned.
00:29:31 But at the same time, should Ainge have done anything?
00:29:37 And right before the Kemba era,
00:29:41 there was a lot of moving parts in those Isaiah Thomas-
00:29:47 >> I understand.
00:29:48 >> Kyrie Kemba years.
00:29:49 You had three stars within four seasons.
00:29:52 It was a weird transition.
00:29:55 The Kemba thing was almost like, at the time, felt like a desperation move to stay
00:30:00 afloat after losing Kyrie and Horford in the same summer.
00:30:04 So you really can't go all in by giving up young guys, at least at that point.
00:30:08 You're like, cuz you don't really know what you have.
00:30:09 You don't know if it's worth it.
00:30:10 Why would you go all in if you have Kemba and Ennis Kanter?
00:30:16 Luckily for the Celtics, Tatum takes a leap.
00:30:19 He's given more responsibility and he thrives.
00:30:21 Jalen Brown, same story.
00:30:23 And then Kemba starts to get hurt.
00:30:24 And those two are able to shoulder the burden, at least at a decent clip.
00:30:29 Of course, the 21 season was not great.
00:30:32 Brown has a surgery to end his season, Celtics losing five to the Nets.
00:30:35 But there really was never a point where it was like, man,
00:30:40 we have to put our chips in.
00:30:43 The Celtics are now getting to that point where it's like, okay,
00:30:46 we have two bona fide guys.
00:30:49 As you mentioned, trading Isaiah for Kyrie,
00:30:51 who was a solidified star in the league.
00:30:54 You already have those guys.
00:30:56 So it's more acceptable to take a swing on a guy that
00:31:01 is more of a risk like a Porzingis.
00:31:05 Because it's like, okay, you're going for it.
00:31:08 But there was never a move to go for it.
00:31:10 And when there was, it was the Kyrie thing, and he did it.
00:31:14 >> I understand, and I know what you're saying,
00:31:17 because it was sort of a developmental error, right?
00:31:19 Like the Jays weren't their full selves yet.
00:31:22 I just don't think Ainge would have made the trades.
00:31:25 It was, I just don't think Danny Ainge would have made the trades
00:31:27 Brad Stephens did.
00:31:29 I don't think he would have traded for a J.
00:31:30 >> You might be right, we don't know.
00:31:31 >> And my, exactly, but my point is- >> He certainly didn't trade for
00:31:34 Jimmy Butler.
00:31:34 >> He didn't do that, and it worked out.
00:31:37 But you look at the tenure.
00:31:39 Danny Ainge didn't trade picks.
00:31:40 He traded first round picks like twice in his tenure.
00:31:44 That I look back and there could be more, so
00:31:46 correct me in the comments, feel free.
00:31:48 He traded two firsts in the Kevin Garnett deal, right?
00:31:50 Obviously, that worked out.
00:31:51 He's trading for an MVP, you're gonna give up first round picks.
00:31:53 And he gave up two first round picks in the same draft.
00:31:55 Two firsts in the 2009 draft,
00:31:58 didn't trade any other future firsts outside of that.
00:31:59 I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's a good move, he got Kevin Garnett.
00:32:02 The other time he traded a first was in the Isaiah Thomas deal.
00:32:04 He traded a 2016 first.
00:32:06 That wasn't the Celtics.
00:32:07 He didn't trade the Celtics first round pick.
00:32:08 He traded the Cavs first round pick.
00:32:09 Yes.
00:32:10 But it wasn't the Celtics first round pick to begin with either, is my point.
00:32:14 Like he didn't trade-
00:32:15 >> It was Brooklyn's.
00:32:16 >> Yes, I think it was actually the Cavs.
00:32:18 >> No, it was Brooklyn's.
00:32:20 >> In the Isaiah Thomas trade?
00:32:21 >> Which one?
00:32:23 >> The first round.
00:32:24 >> When he left?
00:32:25 >> No, no, no, when he traded for Isaiah Thomas.
00:32:27 >> Okay, okay, okay, okay.
00:32:28 >> He traded that first, and then he traded Cleveland's first in that trade.
00:32:31 And then in the trade where he got Kyrie, he did trade another one, right?
00:32:34 He traded first round picks when he got star players.
00:32:38 Or I guess in the case of the first Isaiah Thomas trade,
00:32:41 a potential star player where it just made sense because they were getting other assets too.
00:32:46 Brad Stevens traded a first round pick for a role player because he thought it would fit well with the team.
00:32:50 He traded another first round pick for another role player because he thought it would fit well with the team, right?
00:32:54 He has showed more of an openness to using draft picks as currency rather than,
00:33:02 I'm not giving this up unless I get a superstar.
00:33:06 And if I don't, I'll just make the pick and we'll develop a million rookies.
00:33:09 Cuz at one point on the team, I think this was another number I threw in there.
00:33:13 In the Brad Stevens era, the Celtics have had three rookies, four with Jordan Walsh now.
00:33:23 They've had four rookies in these X amount of years.
00:33:25 In the two year period from after Isaiah Thomas to end,
00:33:29 the Celtics had eight rookies on the roster.
00:33:31 They had Carson Edwards.
00:33:32 >> They also have way more picks.
00:33:34 >> That's my point cuz Danny Ainge kept the picks and it was a developmental era, so of course.
00:33:39 But you looked at the top half of those Jays teams with Tatum, Kemba, Jalen, Marcus.
00:33:46 That's a chord that should have and did go to the Eastern Conference Finals.
00:33:49 So on one hand, you're like, okay, this is a young team, so
00:33:54 let's get a bunch of young guys to develop.
00:33:55 On the second hand, you're like, okay,
00:33:58 it was almost like a watered down version of the 2022 Warriors.
00:34:03 And in this current Warriors team where they're accepting that they have a really
00:34:06 good top end, but they're like, okay, let's try to get by with these young guys at
00:34:10 the bottom, and that was fine.
00:34:13 But Brad, and I'm not saying Danny Ainge was wrong for that, but
00:34:15 I'm saying Brad Stevens has taken the reins and said, okay,
00:34:18 as much as I wanna develop some young talent, we should probably have a top eight,
00:34:21 top nine that is not rounded out by Shemmy O'Joley and Brad Wanamaker.
00:34:25 And so I think, and I said this in the article,
00:34:28 I think Danny Ainge did a great job of setting up Celtics for the future.
00:34:31 But then Brad Stevens took the reins, and
00:34:33 I think he's done a great job of setting them up for the now as well.
00:34:36 And so I think it was like a one-two punch.
00:34:37 And I wasn't trying to diss Danny Ainge, I'm just saying-
00:34:39 >> No, I know.
00:34:40 >> I think Brad Stevens is taking a different approach.
00:34:41 >> I'm doing the U move and playing Devil's Advocate.
00:34:44 >> And I appreciate that.
00:34:45 And also, for context, it's August, so I wrote an article about Brad Stevens' GM.
00:34:49 [LAUGH] >> No, I mean,
00:34:51 I don't think anybody out there is gonna be like, Steven sucks as GM,
00:34:54 he's been awesome.
00:34:55 >> All things you said are true.
00:34:56 I just, I wonder about if there was really a reason for
00:35:03 Ainge to go all in.
00:35:04 I mean, even, look at the 2018 team.
00:35:07 Hayward doesn't snap his leg, that might be a-
00:35:10 >> They had good depth,
00:35:11 they had really good depth, they did.
00:35:12 Yeah, no, I don't know.
00:35:14 It was just an interesting- >> Hey, we get to knee surgery.
00:35:17 They had a few unlucky bounces in that little window.
00:35:22 >> Absolutely, absolutely.
00:35:23 All right, next thing we have is the best moment from every Celtic last season.
00:35:27 Another article I wrote for Celtics blog, again, it's August,
00:35:30 we're getting creative here.
00:35:31 So I went through and how do you wanna do this?
00:35:34 I don't know if you read the article.
00:35:36 I tell you what I had as the moment, you tell me if you can think of a better one.
00:35:39 You wanna do that one?
00:35:39 >> Okay, all right.
00:35:41 >> I'm just thinking the way we discuss this.
00:35:42 Do you wanna tell me what you think the moment should be?
00:35:44 I think that might be better actually.
00:35:45 >> Maybe I'll guess the moment.
00:35:47 >> Yeah, yeah, okay.
00:35:49 So again, I wrote the best moment from every Celtic player during the 2019-
00:35:53 >> Yeah, man.
00:35:53 >> 22, 23 season, okay.
00:35:54 >> But I also did help you with one guy.
00:35:57 >> You did, yes, correct.
00:35:58 [LAUGH] All right, Mike Muscala, what was the best Mike Muscala moment?
00:36:02 >> He had that one third quarter where he didn't miss.
00:36:05 >> I have his- >> I don't know if you picked that, but
00:36:09 there was a third quarter where Mike Muscala had 17 points.
00:36:12 >> I'm not sure if that is this game.
00:36:14 I just picked his debut game.
00:36:16 He had- >> No.
00:36:17 >> 12 points in his debut, but he had four threes and it was a lecture.
00:36:20 Cuz everyone's like, Muscala's here, look at what-
00:36:21 >> No, it was one of those garbage games
00:36:25 against the Hawks at the end of the year.
00:36:27 >> Yes, he had 27 against the Hawks.
00:36:29 >> Yeah, he just went off.
00:36:30 So wrong, Jack 0 for 1.
00:36:33 >> [LAUGH] >> No, his debut was cool,
00:36:35 cuz everybody got excited.
00:36:36 >> That's what I'm saying, I thought it was more fun.
00:36:37 Luke Cornett, best moment.
00:36:39 >> Man.
00:36:41 >> It's not, I don't know if I kind of cheated with this one.
00:36:43 It's not an exact moment, it's just a thing.
00:36:45 >> It's just the Cornett contest?
00:36:46 >> It's just the Cornett contest.
00:36:47 That's just the best thing to come out of Luke.
00:36:49 I mean, he made national media.
00:36:51 Luke Cornett made national media.
00:36:52 >> No, people were starting to think, should everybody do this?
00:36:56 I mean, nobody loved it more than Scal.
00:36:57 >> Wenbinyama did it in the summer league this year.
00:37:00 >> Did he?
00:37:00 >> Yeah, I think so.
00:37:02 >> Cornett nods.
00:37:03 >> He did something.
00:37:04 >> He's watching the game.
00:37:06 >> My honorable mentions were the bird celebration where he went like this.
00:37:09 >> Yep. >> And
00:37:09 then eating Jason Tatum's ruffle chips at the beginning of a game.
00:37:13 >> That's right, he walked in with the chips.
00:37:15 >> [LAUGH] >> Yeah, those are my favorite too.
00:37:17 Luke Cornett's fun, he's good.
00:37:19 Peyton Pritchard.
00:37:21 >> Pritchard had triple double last game of the year.
00:37:22 >> 30 point triple double, that was easy.
00:37:24 Honorable mentions were January 21st against the Raptors.
00:37:28 He had a big game and then he grabbed a million offensive rebounds.
00:37:30 >> He loves playing the Raptors, dude.
00:37:32 >> That he does.
00:37:33 Blake Griffin.
00:37:33 >> Blake Griffin had five threes against 76ers.
00:37:37 >> I put that in as an honorable mention, but-
00:37:39 >> Was it the L-U dunk?
00:37:40 >> No, that is an honorable mention.
00:37:42 I had the bus one boys, but the top moment that I chose was when he got headbutt by
00:37:47 Thanasis and just laughed in his face.
00:37:48 >> Good pick.
00:37:49 >> Shout out by- >> Good pick.
00:37:50 >> Blake hit a lot of good moments.
00:37:52 To cut a full circle to how we started the show.
00:37:54 >> Yes, shout out Bill Sy, Celtics blog editor extraordinaire.
00:37:57 He gave me that moment and that kind of kick started the whole thing.
00:38:00 So that is there.
00:38:02 Sam Houser, this one I wasn't sure which one to go with,
00:38:04 because there's a couple moments that I probably could have chosen over this, but
00:38:06 I chose one in particular.
00:38:08 >> I think it's the game tying shot against the box to send the game to overtime.
00:38:12 But there was also that game where he started against the Knicks and
00:38:15 he had a really, really great start.
00:38:17 It was like all of our revelation to Sam Houser.
00:38:20 >> I see. >> Where it was like he had 18 points
00:38:22 early game three of the season.
00:38:23 I was like, my God.
00:38:25 >> Yes, I had the game tying shot against the Bucks is an honorable mention, but
00:38:28 they lost the game.
00:38:29 So I thought it was like a little less cool because they lost.
00:38:31 >> Yes, correct.
00:38:32 >> I had his dunk.
00:38:33 >> His three dunks.
00:38:36 >> Yeah, his dunk fest against the Raptors.
00:38:37 That was another honorable mention.
00:38:39 I was gonna choose the Knicks game because that was like the first hint at it.
00:38:42 >> Yeah. >> But then a couple games later,
00:38:44 he had another huge game against the Pistons where he had, excuse me,
00:38:49 had a career high 24 and so I chose that one instead.
00:38:51 Cuz it felt like the Knicks was the first appetizer and
00:38:54 then the Pistons was the entree of Sam Houser is here.
00:38:57 So I went with Pistons over Knicks, but those two games-
00:39:01 >> And then Joe Mazzola said we're not
00:39:02 gonna play this guy in the playoffs.
00:39:04 >> Yeah, unfortunate, unfortunate.
00:39:06 Grant Williams, and these were good moments, best moments.
00:39:09 These were not, yeah.
00:39:12 >> Grant had an alley-oop dunk against the Pistons.
00:39:14 Grant, is it bad that I really can't think of any great Grant games?
00:39:19 >> I struggled, I struggled a little bit.
00:39:21 I had game two against Philly in the playoffs.
00:39:24 >> When he got his face stepped on?
00:39:27 >> I think so, yeah, he hustled, he stopped.
00:39:29 Joel Embiid played good minutes there.
00:39:32 He had 12 points, he lifted them to their, I mean, they killed him in that game.
00:39:37 No, I think he got stomped in a different game, but-
00:39:39 >> Game three.
00:39:41 >> Yeah, but I had game two.
00:39:42 >> Cuz I didn't see it live, I was at the med school prom.
00:39:45 >> I had game two.
00:39:46 Robert Williams, another one where I was like,
00:39:49 I don't really know what his season best is.
00:39:52 >> I can't really think of it.
00:39:55 >> I chose game three against the Hawks.
00:39:59 He had 13 points, 15 rebounds, three assists, two steals, two blocks.
00:40:03 He really got a ton of rebounds and they struggled on the boards in that series.
00:40:08 So that's what I went with.
00:40:08 He had another big game against the Spurs in January.
00:40:11 >> That was the one where he had the closeout block and
00:40:14 then took it coast to coast, the highlight.
00:40:17 >> And then his season debut against the Magic was fun too,
00:40:19 cuz he came back, but it was tough to- >> I was there, they lost.
00:40:22 >> Yeah, so I couldn't choose it.
00:40:25 >> Brogdon.
00:40:25 >> I was there too.
00:40:26 >> Brogdon, it might, I mean, he had a lot of good games.
00:40:34 >> This was tough.
00:40:34 So I originally chose, he had 30 points against the Hornets earlier in the season.
00:40:38 That was the season high.
00:40:39 But it was the Hornets, so I ended up putting that as an under mention.
00:40:42 I had game two as the Hawks, but I had game two against Philly.
00:40:45 He shared it with Grant.
00:40:46 He had 23 points, six rebounds, two assists.
00:40:50 He was just on fire from three in that game, helped him to the blowout.
00:40:53 So I chose that.
00:40:54 There wasn't really any other ones.
00:40:57 I mean, the most memorable moment was probably when he threw the ball to Maxie.
00:41:00 But this was best moments.
00:41:02 Just like I couldn't choose, I'm gonna make them both for Grant.
00:41:05 >> Should I do a worst moments?
00:41:07 >> Yes, you should.
00:41:08 >> I don't have the energy, maybe next week.
00:41:11 We can do it together if you want.
00:41:13 Al Horford, what do you got for Al?
00:41:15 >> The elite shooter game.
00:41:16 >> Absolutely, that was game three against the Sixers.
00:41:19 >> In Philly, torture chamber, they all hate him.
00:41:23 Big game, helps them win a road game after they kick away the game one.
00:41:27 >> Yep, and he was struggling too.
00:41:29 He shot two for 12 in the first two games.
00:41:31 And then he just lit him up in that game three.
00:41:34 So good for him. >> It's always fire when Al Horford turns up, man.
00:41:38 >> My other honorable mentions were game seven against the Sixers,
00:41:42 where he just locked up Joel Embiid.
00:41:44 And then- >> I think that one might have been
00:41:45 actually a better pick,
00:41:47 even though it doesn't jump off the page at you.
00:41:49 He was so impactful on the defensive end, it was more important.
00:41:53 >> I think the defense was more series wide, so
00:41:56 maybe I could have chose that.
00:41:57 And then the other one was January 19th against the Warriors.
00:42:00 He was awesome as well.
00:42:01 So, but I think they, I can't remember if they won that game or lost that game.
00:42:04 >> They did, they won.
00:42:05 That was the overtime game at the Garden.
00:42:07 >> Yeah, Marcus Smart, this is the one you helped me with.
00:42:10 >> He had a monster game six at the table for Tatum to come back from the dead and
00:42:16 carry them to victory, but he was awesome throughout the whole game.
00:42:18 Kept him in the game.
00:42:20 >> Yep, I went with that one.
00:42:21 Honorable mentions game five against the Heat, he was really good.
00:42:24 He had a lot of steals.
00:42:25 And then 15 assists against the Hornets.
00:42:26 >> First half in game one, just ten assists in the first half.
00:42:30 And then they stopped letting him pass.
00:42:31 >> Yep, Derek White, I mean, come on.
00:42:35 >> The game winner.
00:42:36 >> Easy. >> It's gotta be, it's gotta be.
00:42:38 I had game, honorable mentions game one and two against the Hawks.
00:42:42 Yeah, I ran around my house.
00:42:43 And then Eastern Conference Player of the Week, that was another good one.
00:42:46 Jalen Brown, what do we got?
00:42:48 >> Let's see.
00:42:49 >> That's a tough one, I struggled with this one.
00:42:51 He was good, but it was just like- >> He had a half court
00:42:54 overtime shot against the Heat.
00:42:56 Did he have 50 this year in a game?
00:42:59 >> I don't think he had 50 this year, he had 50 last year.
00:43:02 >> Yeah, I remember it was the Magic.
00:43:04 >> He had some good regular season games though.
00:43:07 >> He had 41 against the Spurs, I had that one as an honorable mention.
00:43:11 I picked game six against the Hawks though, the closeout game.
00:43:14 He had 32 points, him and Tatum exploded for like 70 combined or
00:43:17 something crazy, or close to 70 combined.
00:43:19 And he was on fire, he shot 13 to 25, six of eight from three.
00:43:23 And it was the playoff, so
00:43:24 I figured I'll just go with that one instead.
00:43:26 >> Okay. >> But it was tough to nail down
00:43:28 one single moment, unlike it was for Tatum, which was easy.
00:43:32 Which was, what was Tatum's best moment?
00:43:35 >> Easy, this was an easy pick for me.
00:43:37 >> Game seven.
00:43:39 >> Yeah, game seven against Philly, murdered the Sixers, 51 points.
00:43:44 Seven to 28 from the field, six to ten from deep.
00:43:47 He also had 13 rebounds, five assists and two steals, and 11 free throws.
00:43:51 He just killed them, it wasn't close.
00:43:53 I had, the honorable mentions, game four against the Heat, he was really good.
00:43:56 And then the game winner against- >> Game six.
00:43:58 >> Game six was another one, but he struggled, so it was-
00:44:02 >> Yeah, the game winner in Philly.
00:44:03 >> Game winner, was another one I had, yeah.
00:44:04 >> With Dunton Yonis on Christmas.
00:44:06 He had some good, he had a really fun season.
00:44:11 So he came out with his shoes and then forgot how to play for two months.
00:44:15 >> Yeah, yeah, those are my honorable mentions though.
00:44:17 >> Okay.
00:44:19 >> And then I think we had another Celtics blog article,
00:44:22 which I feel like we should just save, we'll just bank that.
00:44:23 >> Pop it in.
00:44:24 >> Yeah, and then the last thing we have- >> Staying away on Jason Tatum.
00:44:26 Speaking of Jason Tatum, go ahead.
00:44:28 >> You do it, lead it off, you put this on the show sheet.
00:44:32 >> Speaking of Jason Tatum, Cooper Flagg, super cool prospect from Maine.
00:44:38 >> Mm-hm.
00:44:39 >> Spoke on Jason Tatum this week, he said, if I could find it.
00:44:43 Jason Tatum is my favorite player in the NBA right now.
00:44:47 I don't know if it's possible, at least he understands it.
00:44:50 But that's definitely a player I'd love to play with one day.
00:44:53 Who wouldn't want to play for their hometown team?
00:44:56 >> Eyes emoji.
00:44:59 Eyes emoji.
00:45:00 >> Get ready to start trading for draft picks, buddy.
00:45:04 >> Cooper Flagg is- >> You can draft Cooper Flagg.
00:45:06 >> Yeah. >> Cooper Flagg is nasty.
00:45:07 For those who aren't aware of Cooper Flagg,
00:45:09 which you should be if you're a basketball fan.
00:45:11 He is projected to be the number one recruit, or the number one pick, or
00:45:14 a top ex-pick in the 2025 NBA draft.
00:45:18 He just reclassified to the 2024 high school class, I believe.
00:45:23 So he was supposed to be 2025 high school class and be in the 2026 draft.
00:45:27 >> Wow. >> But now I believe he is 2024.
00:45:30 >> He must be real smart to skip a grade.
00:45:33 >> Something like that.
00:45:34 I think he's just old enough.
00:45:35 >> Probably has straight A's.
00:45:36 >> He's just old enough where he can't do it.
00:45:39 So he's going to be a draft earlier and gonna be in the 2025 NBA draft,
00:45:44 I believe is what it is.
00:45:45 But he is from Maine, from a town that's not really known for basketball.
00:45:51 He's a twin.
00:45:52 >> A state not known for basketball.
00:45:54 >> A state, yeah.
00:45:55 >> A region not known for basketball.
00:45:57 >> Yeah, Cooper Flagg is a twin as well.
00:45:59 He's a twin brother, so he plays.
00:46:00 I believe- >> Tough for a twin.
00:46:02 >> I know he has a brother, but I'm pretty sure they're twins.
00:46:05 I'm gonna double check here.
00:46:07 Yes, his brother's name is Ace Flagg.
00:46:12 He's also good, but he's just not number one pick in the draft.
00:46:15 >> Ace is the better name.
00:46:16 >> Ace is the one that should be good at basketball.
00:46:18 >> [LAUGH] >> Well, he's good, but
00:46:20 he's not like everybody who's watching him play at Rucker Park good.
00:46:25 >> Yes, I agree.
00:46:26 >> Ace is 6'7", so he's also tall.
00:46:28 He is getting recruited, but he's a three-star recruit in his class.
00:46:33 Yeah, I know.
00:46:34 He's a three-star recruit in his class.
00:46:35 >> How funny being his brother's 5'5".
00:46:37 >> I know, he's not as tall as Cooper, though.
00:46:39 Three-star recruit, it says he has an offer from West Virginia.
00:46:41 So he's a D1 player, but he's not Cooper Flagg.
00:46:46 Cooper Flagg- >> Has he been to college yet?
00:46:49 Cuz he doesn't have to.
00:46:50 >> No, Cooper Flagg- >> Wait, no,
00:46:51 he graduates this upcoming school year.
00:46:52 >> Yes, yes.
00:46:54 >> Yeah, we're gonna learn soon.
00:46:55 Cooper Flagg is not committed, but there was something on Twitter today.
00:46:59 Let me look, that he is going to visits from a few schools.
00:47:03 Let me find the list so I don't- >> He should go to the University of Maine,
00:47:07 put him on the map.
00:47:08 >> Cooper Flagg plans to visit Duke, Kansas, and UConn this fall.
00:47:12 So he's gonna be playing for a big boy school.
00:47:15 >> If you're a real New Englander, go play.
00:47:17 >> Those are his three first official visits.
00:47:20 School list, this is ESPN.
00:47:22 These are the schools he has offers from already.
00:47:25 West Virginia, UConn, UCLA, UAlbany, Providence, Michigan, Maine,
00:47:30 Iowa, Georgia, Duke, Bryant.
00:47:32 So- >> Bryant!
00:47:33 >> Plenty of- >> Brasso, fire, the coach.
00:47:36 >> Plenty of offers for Cooper Flagg.
00:47:39 But yeah, I mean- >> You are on it, slack him.
00:47:42 They're making, listen, you got Providence and Bryant, get in on the fun.
00:47:46 He's not, you got Ray Allen's kid there now, just be like, look.
00:47:51 >> How sick would it be if Cooper Flagg went to Maine, though?
00:47:53 >> It would be sick.
00:47:54 That would be the most respectable move of all time.
00:47:57 >> There's no chance, though.
00:47:58 There's just no shot.
00:47:59 >> Him and his brother can go hoop there.
00:48:00 It'd be great.
00:48:01 >> Yeah.
00:48:01 Do you think Maine would make the tournament, any chance?
00:48:03 >> I think if Cooper Flagg goes to Maine,
00:48:06 they can probably get him some fellas to play with.
00:48:10 >> This is true.
00:48:10 >> That is, cuz you have a transfer portal now.
00:48:13 I will say this, 2024, 25, not the worst year for
00:48:19 the Celtics to maybe have somebody get injured.
00:48:21 >> [LAUGH] >> Maybe, maybe, hey.
00:48:26 >> Imagine if they were able to draft him, how crazy that'd be.
00:48:29 >> That's so sad.
00:48:30 You know what they need to do?
00:48:31 >> Well, I mean, you have to think the Spurs got Tim Duncan cuz David Robinson
00:48:35 was out for a year.
00:48:36 >> Yeah, you know what they need to do?
00:48:38 This is gonna make me sound like a complete hater.
00:48:42 And I'm gonna preface this with this is all a joke.
00:48:46 This is not real.
00:48:47 All I'm saying.
00:48:50 >> You ruined the joke by saying that.
00:48:52 >> I know, I know, but I'm gonna get hate and you're gonna yell at me.
00:48:54 It's not even a joke, it's just hypothetical.
00:48:56 Let me set the scene for you.
00:48:58 Jason Tatum tears his ACL out for the season.
00:49:01 Disaster. >> That's what I just said.
00:49:02 >> Disaster strikes.
00:49:03 Wait, Jalen Brown, everyone's right.
00:49:06 Sick of Boston, doesn't wanna be there.
00:49:08 Need to trade him, he's gotta go.
00:49:10 He gets something else.
00:49:11 >> Be careful, be careful, be careful.
00:49:13 >> Get a big- >> Be very careful.
00:49:16 >> Robert Williams knee, disaster strikes.
00:49:18 Malcolm Brogdon, he's still mad at the Celtics for not trading him.
00:49:22 Absolute implosion, Cooper flag comes back.
00:49:24 Robert Williams is healthy again.
00:49:27 Jalen Brown scans the team they traded for, says get back to Boston.
00:49:32 No, I can't imagine a world where the Celtics get Cooper flag.
00:49:36 They would have to pull off some ridiculous team that's supposed to be-
00:49:40 >> Do they own anybody else's draft picks?
00:49:42 >> No. >> They have the Warriors pick this year.
00:49:44 >> They do. >> Too bad.
00:49:47 >> Pro sports, let me just double check.
00:49:50 >> No, that's the only one I think.
00:49:52 >> In the 2025 draft, the Celtics just have their own pick and that's it, so.
00:49:56 >> Do something about that.
00:49:57 >> Not looking great.
00:49:58 No, Cooper flag wanting to play with Jason Tatum is dope.
00:50:01 I mean, it's cool to hear.
00:50:04 Let me rephrase, it's unsurprising to hear he's from Maine.
00:50:07 Of course, you'd wanna play for the team that he grew up rooting for, right?
00:50:10 >> You know Cooper flag is gonna go to a Celtics game this year and
00:50:13 they're gonna put him up on the screen.
00:50:15 And like half the garden's gonna go nuts cuz they know who he is.
00:50:18 >> Yeah, yeah, he's gonna show up.
00:50:21 >> This is the next guy, him.
00:50:23 >> People are gonna be hyped.
00:50:24 >> He's him.
00:50:24 >> Yeah, people are gonna be excited.
00:50:28 And then I mean, the class after that, so Cooper flag's gonna be the 2025 draft.
00:50:33 What do you mean, don't care?
00:50:34 >> Class after Cooper flag?
00:50:36 What are we talking about?
00:50:37 >> Well, my point is it's another Massachusetts guy,
00:50:39 he's gonna be the first overall pick.
00:50:40 Yeah, yeah, don't care, fuck you, you asshole, let me fucking talk.
00:50:44 >> Massachusetts guy?
00:50:45 Who?
00:50:45 >> He's from Brockton, he's from one town away from me.
00:50:48 His name's AJ DeBonsa.
00:50:51 >> Is that Plymouth County?
00:50:52 I think it's Plymouth County.
00:50:53 >> Yes.
00:50:54 >> Not Bristol.
00:50:54 >> Yes.
00:50:55 What county is Brockton?
00:50:59 >> Plymouth. >> Plymouth County, you're right.
00:51:00 But I could walk out of my house and drive five minutes and be in Brockton.
00:51:05 So it's like right there, his name's AJ DeBonsa.
00:51:07 He's projected to be the first pick in the 2020 whatever class.
00:51:11 >> Well, he's no Cooper flag.
00:51:13 >> Well, he's pretty damn good.
00:51:15 >> No ace flag.
00:51:16 >> But yeah, two straight prospects from New England.
00:51:20 Cooper flag wants to play with Jason Tatum, would like to play-
00:51:23 >> Wants to play in the Celtics, yeah.
00:51:25 >> Would be pretty cool.
00:51:27 Probably not gonna happen anytime soon.
00:51:28 >> Back in the day, Ben Simmons posted a MyPlayer,
00:51:31 where his favorite team was Boston Celtics.
00:51:33 So don't close the door on that one.
00:51:36 >> Maybe, maybe, you never know.
00:51:38 All right, should we move on to the NBA?
00:51:40 >> Yeah.
00:51:41 >> Let's see what we got.
00:51:42 Lead us off here, Sam.
00:51:42 I'll let you kick it off.
00:51:43 You got the, you made the show sheet.
00:51:45 So here, what do we got first?
00:51:46 >> I kind of put this together today.
00:51:47 So James Harden is finished.
00:51:49 >> [LAUGH] >> The NBA has fined James Harden $100,000.
00:51:54 He's essentially homeless now.
00:51:55 He has- >> He doesn't even wanna pay it.
00:51:58 The NBPA is filing a grievance with the fine.
00:52:02 >> Well, for what it's worth, that is the most they possibly could have fined him.
00:52:05 >> Yeah. >> To us, it sounds like a slap on
00:52:07 the wrist, but they did the max punishment.
00:52:10 Also, James Harden has unfollowed Dara Mori on Twitter, so rip.
00:52:13 >> Shocker, shocker.
00:52:15 I don't know, man.
00:52:16 It's, I think- >> They should fight.
00:52:19 >> We've gone back and forth on this.
00:52:20 I don't think either side is handling this particularly well.
00:52:23 We've heard James Harden is mad cuz the Sixers said they'd trade him quickly and
00:52:28 then they didn't.
00:52:29 I heard today, I think Keith Smith and Trevor Layen of the-
00:52:31 >> For trades to happen,
00:52:32 somebody has to want you.
00:52:35 >> Well, yeah, well, that's what I was saying.
00:52:36 The NBA front office pod was talking about it, and they were like,
00:52:39 it sounds like, well, they got the information from Brian Windhorst.
00:52:42 I'm just saying where I heard it, that the Clippers pulled out of negotiations.
00:52:45 They were like, yeah, no, we don't really know anymore.
00:52:48 >> Who's trading for him?
00:52:49 Name one team.
00:52:50 Name one team that will trade for James, that even makes sense.
00:52:54 There's none.
00:52:55 >> That's what I'm saying.
00:52:58 I don't know, it's a weird situation.
00:52:59 And the Sixers are being, from all accounts, from what Dara Mori has said,
00:53:03 unrealistic in their trade-ass too, which I guess is fair.
00:53:07 But basically what they want is they want players to help them win now, but
00:53:12 they also don't want any long-term money because they wanna be able to spend money
00:53:15 next summer, which is like, you can't really have both.
00:53:19 [LAUGH] That's not really how it works.
00:53:22 So they're also just being super stupid in their negotiations.
00:53:25 And I mean, we don't have to get into it last time.
00:53:28 >> I'm literally flipping through my head.
00:53:30 I can't think of a team that won him.
00:53:32 >> I know we have differing opinions on, should James Harden get all the blame?
00:53:35 And you hate James Harden, you think he should.
00:53:37 I disagree, I think both teams are stupid.
00:53:38 And my thing that I go back to is, if you were iffy on trading him,
00:53:42 excuse me, because you don't know about the return.
00:53:45 Or you don't know if you wanted to give him a max,
00:53:48 don't say you're gonna do those things in the first place.
00:53:50 Just say we'll see, right?
00:53:51 And then it'll be up to- >> The we'll see thing is fine, but-
00:53:54 >> That's what I'm saying.
00:53:55 >> Again, you can't trade him if nobody wants him.
00:53:58 Nobody wants him.
00:53:59 >> Then don't say we're gonna trade you real quick.
00:54:01 Then don't say, yeah, we're gonna trade you, don't worry.
00:54:04 Because when you say we're gonna trade you, don't worry.
00:54:05 >> Maybe you think somebody would want him.
00:54:08 Whose fault is that really?
00:54:10 >> Then say we'll gauge the market and let you know.
00:54:12 Don't say yes, we'll trade you.
00:54:14 >> If they said they'd trade him bead quickly,
00:54:15 I'm sure somebody would take him bead.
00:54:18 >> Well, yes, but then say we'll see the market.
00:54:21 Don't say, yeah, we'll trade you, don't worry about it.
00:54:23 >> Sure, we'll see the market, but also don't suck.
00:54:25 >> Yeah, I don't know who would want him though.
00:54:29 >> Nobody.
00:54:29 >> Who would want James Harden?
00:54:30 >> Maybe. >> Nobody wants the-
00:54:31 >> I really hope he goes to play in China.
00:54:33 That would be the best thing ever.
00:54:34 >> That'd be kind of fire.
00:54:35 I'd respect James Harden for that.
00:54:36 I don't care.
00:54:37 Yeah, see you later.
00:54:37 >> I would respect it, but it would just also be like-
00:54:40 >> Well, the thing is-
00:54:41 >> This is like my fantasy of a player trying to force his way out and
00:54:44 just getting fucked.
00:54:45 >> Well, that's the issue.
00:54:46 He can't, and he can't next year either.
00:54:49 If James Harden doesn't report to training camp-
00:54:50 >> Why can't he-
00:54:52 >> Listen, no, listen, listen, listen.
00:54:53 >> Why not?
00:54:54 >> CBA, I'm gonna explain it if you let me fucking talk.
00:54:56 >> Is it because he opted into the final year of his deal?
00:54:59 Is that why?
00:54:59 >> Am I, can I talk now?
00:55:03 Can I explain now?
00:55:04 Fucker.
00:55:05 >> New thing in the CBA, if a player holds out or doesn't report,
00:55:09 they are not out of their contract at the end of it.
00:55:11 So if James Harden doesn't hold out this season, or
00:55:14 if he holds out the season and doesn't report to the Sixers,
00:55:16 the Sixers control what team next or where he goes next after his current contract.
00:55:20 Like, it doesn't just end.
00:55:21 Like, he can't just not play this year and
00:55:23 then do whatever he wants when his contract is up.
00:55:25 So, yeah, I thought you didn't- >> WCBA, W.
00:55:28 >> [LAUGH]
00:55:29 >> So that- >> They need to be held accountable for
00:55:31 this stuff.
00:55:31 At the end of the day, don't opt in.
00:55:35 Yeah, I don't know.
00:55:36 It's just entertaining.
00:55:37 I don't really give a shit.
00:55:39 This is August Entertainment at its finest.
00:55:42 I'm fine with it.
00:55:43 Speaking of August Entertainment- >> Find a way to be the most ridiculous.
00:55:47 Yes, speaking of ridiculous.
00:55:48 >> Harden or the Sixers, both?
00:55:50 >> Both.
00:55:51 >> It's great.
00:55:52 I love it.
00:55:52 I'm enjoying.
00:55:53 But speaking of August Entertainment, Lonzo Ball and Stephen A.
00:55:56 Smith, not really beefing, but- >> Lonzo Ball has finished Stephen A.
00:56:01 Speaking of just being finished.
00:56:03 Stephen A- >> Go ahead.
00:56:04 >> On first take, cuz Lonzo has been a topic of discussion.
00:56:07 He went on, I think, Trey Young's podcast.
00:56:09 It was just saying he feels bad for the Bulls.
00:56:11 You know more about this than me.
00:56:12 You probably wrote about it.
00:56:12 >> Yeah.
00:56:13 >> But anyways, Stephen A's like, yeah, Lonzo's knee is so
00:56:18 bad that he can barely stand up if he's sitting in a chair.
00:56:21 And then Lonzo posted a video of him repeatedly using one leg,
00:56:26 the bad leg, to get up and down, up from a chair and then sitting back down.
00:56:31 >> Fire, it's elite.
00:56:32 That's a power move. >> Is this the equivalent of going up to
00:56:34 a person in a wheelchair and being like stand up and then they do it?
00:56:37 And they just prove you wrong, you're just shell shocked.
00:56:40 It's the Kevin Nash where he fakes being in a wheelchair and gets up.
00:56:45 >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
00:56:46 Yeah, no, something like that.
00:56:49 >> The Lonzo thing's crazy.
00:56:51 >> I know, I feel bad for Lonzo.
00:56:52 It's not like, he doesn't deserve it.
00:56:54 He's a good player. >> Well, he talked about it.
00:56:54 He was like, this is the first time I felt like I was in a really great
00:56:57 situation to succeed and he can't play.
00:57:01 >> Stephen A, I mean, Stephen A is on a burner lately.
00:57:04 You see what he said this morning?
00:57:05 He's like, yeah, Michael Jordan texted me, said that Magic Johnson's better stuff.
00:57:09 No, he didn't.
00:57:10 There's no fucking chance Michael Jordan texted him.
00:57:12 I'm sorry.
00:57:13 Michael Jordan is golfing, smoking cigars, and not giving a fuck about anything.
00:57:18 >> You see the video of somebody filming Michael Jordan making the goat noses at
00:57:22 him?
00:57:23 >> Yes, he just doesn't care.
00:57:24 He just didn't care.
00:57:25 >> That's so, who?
00:57:26 >> It cringed. >> You know how weird you have to be to
00:57:28 do that?
00:57:28 >> It's very cringe.
00:57:29 If you make goat noses at anybody, noises, my God.
00:57:33 At anybody, they should be able to beat the shit out of you.
00:57:36 >> I agree.
00:57:37 But the thought that Michael Jordan took time out of his day to text Stephen A
00:57:41 Smith in general, but not only that, just to say,
00:57:46 yeah, Magic Johnson's better than Steph Curry.
00:57:49 [LAUGH] I'm sorry, there's no fucking way.
00:57:52 And I love Stephen A, but like, bro, there's just, no.
00:57:56 I don't believe that for a second.
00:57:57 >> Stephen A is literally ESPN.
00:57:58 Without him, they have nothing.
00:57:59 >> Yes, agree, agree.
00:58:02 Speaking of, I mean, we talked about James Harden, Sam's favorite.
00:58:05 Let's talk about another one of Sam's favorites, Zion Williamson.
00:58:08 Recently, I don't know where he talked about this.
00:58:09 >> Notice how my favorite are the guys that just can't play or don't wanna play.
00:58:14 >> Sam's loved to hate this.
00:58:15 >> Ben Simmons too.
00:58:16 >> Zion was talking about the big three of him, CJ, and Brandon Ingram.
00:58:23 It was via League Alerts, I don't know what it is.
00:58:25 But basically, it was just saying, super excited about training camp,
00:58:29 super excited, he's like, yeah, we're killing them in scrimmages.
00:58:31 And as much as this is nothing, this is gonna be a Jack talks about something,
00:58:36 cuz Sam's just gonna be a hater, so let me talk first, and
00:58:38 then you can hate if you'd like to.
00:58:40 My thing is, as much as it sucks the situation, and
00:58:44 Zion couldn't be on the court, as much as you wanna blame Zion or
00:58:46 blame the Pelicans, to see him genuinely be excited about playing basketball with
00:58:51 these guys is fun.
00:58:52 It's because all you see about Zion is, this guy sucks, this guy is in a bad
00:58:56 situation, this guy is talking to a porn star, and this guy is having,
00:59:01 I'm saying all the summer, all the past few years.
00:59:03 >> One of us would kill to talk to a porn star, not me, I'm happy.
00:59:05 >> Negative, yeah, I was gonna say.
00:59:06 >> Maybe another member of the show.
00:59:07 >> Whoa, whoa, whoa, what are we doing?
00:59:10 >> Wait, wait, wait a sec, we're not doing that.
00:59:13 No, but here in Zion, genuinely excited about-
00:59:16 >> Could be Matt Thoreau.
00:59:17 >> Playing basketball is fun.
00:59:18 Cool to see him excited.
00:59:21 Some images surfaced, and I know it's the same Ben Simmons meme, but
00:59:25 it looks like he's a little healthier.
00:59:27 I am always of the belief that I want guys to be on the court.
00:59:30 I want guys to be healthy.
00:59:31 If Zion's healthy, I'd love to see him.
00:59:32 And like Sam always says, Pelicans were really good when those three were healthy.
00:59:35 >> No, they were.
00:59:36 You beat me too, I was gonna back you up.
00:59:39 >> I'm excited, it's nice to hear Zion being excited and actually wanting to play.
00:59:43 >> No, he should be excited.
00:59:44 I mean, that Pelicans team has a solid roster.
00:59:46 It's just a question of whether or not he can get on the floor.
00:59:50 And of course, when you're injured, it's not always your fault.
00:59:52 But when you're fat and you get injured because you're fat,
00:59:54 then it is your fault.
00:59:56 Even though you're in a tough spot, you're like 20 years old,
00:59:58 they have all the best food, everything's fried.
01:00:00 Of course, you're gonna get a little fat, even though you're a pro athlete.
01:00:03 You should be doing enough for your burnt calories.
01:00:05 >> Topic of conversation, is there a worse city Zion could have gone to?
01:00:10 >> [LAUGH] >> I feel, maybe not.
01:00:14 >> New York, maybe.
01:00:15 I mean, there's probably a lot of us in New York.
01:00:17 >> No, cuz they got everything, they got everything though.
01:00:20 >> This is true.
01:00:21 New York is such a melting pot, where they have everything.
01:00:25 >> I wanna go to New Orleans.
01:00:26 New Orleans seems like a fun place, I've never been.
01:00:28 It seems dope. >> Me neither.
01:00:29 >> Food, all the good stuff, maybe that's our next, maybe that's an adventure.
01:00:32 HBTC goes to New Orleans.
01:00:33 >> Jack and I, by the way, going to Vegas for the tournament games.
01:00:36 So we're gonna plant the seed now.
01:00:38 >> [LAUGH] >> If the Celtics get to the quarterfinals,
01:00:41 we're going to have to do a stream for the game, because there's going to be stakes
01:00:44 for us, because essentially, if they go, then we're gonna be there, and
01:00:47 it's gonna be awesome.
01:00:47 We'll probably get to do content, we'll probably do content anyways.
01:00:50 But it's gonna be like essentially Jack and I made like X amount of dollars bet,
01:00:54 however much we have to spend to get there.
01:00:56 >> [LAUGH] >> And we're gonna see if it pays off or
01:00:58 not.
01:00:59 So just stay tuned on that, if you listen this far, a little nugget for you.
01:01:02 We're gonna definitely talk about it more.
01:01:03 >> [LAUGH] >> But yeah,
01:01:04 the Pelicans are a team that should be competitive.
01:01:08 I mean, this is just another nugget of the Western Conference being
01:01:13 kind of a bloodbath this year.
01:01:15 You have Denver, Phoenix went all in,
01:01:19 a healthy Pelicans team could be competitive.
01:01:21 Dallas had a good summer.
01:01:22 Sacramento is poised to build off what they did last year.
01:01:26 The Warriors got CP3, we'll see how that goes.
01:01:28 The Lakers probably solidified the rest of the rotation.
01:01:32 Who knows how good the top will be again this year?
01:01:35 Or if they're going to, cuz it felt like they were a bit lightning in a bottle at
01:01:38 the end of the last year.
01:01:38 If the Clippers are healthy, how good can they be?
01:01:42 OKC is poised to take a jump.
01:01:44 I mean, just keep going down the list.
01:01:46 Utah's probably out of it, Portland's out of it.
01:01:49 Minnesota, is Ant gonna be good?
01:01:51 >> Well, I mean, you look at the NBA standings, right?
01:01:55 >> Memphis?
01:01:55 I didn't even mention Memphis.
01:01:56 >> Look at the NBA standings.
01:01:58 I'm gonna read you these teams.
01:02:00 Nuggets, Grizzlies, Kings, Suns, Clippers, Warriors, Lakers,
01:02:04 Timberwolves, Thunder, Pelicans, Mavericks.
01:02:07 I just named 11 teams.
01:02:08 >> Did any team get worse?
01:02:09 >> I just named 11 teams.
01:02:10 Only eight of them can make the playoffs.
01:02:12 [LAUGH] >> Get ready for expansion, buddy.
01:02:16 >> And that's without even mentioning, and
01:02:17 I know they're probably not gonna be great, but the Jazz are fine.
01:02:20 They'll be okay.
01:02:21 The Rockets are trying to win.
01:02:23 So this isn't even mentioning the teams on the fringe.
01:02:26 Those 11 teams, only eight can make the playoffs.
01:02:29 And out of them, it's probably gonna be the Timberwolves are probably the first
01:02:33 cut you make, and then maybe the Thunder, but they're gonna be nasty, right?
01:02:36 Shea's great, and then probably the Pelicans or Mavericks, but even them,
01:02:39 they got all NBA players leading the way.
01:02:41 >> Maybe when they do the expansion draft, they need to do four teams.
01:02:44 >> Yeah, maybe.
01:02:46 >> The league is so good now where, all right, one, create jobs, right?
01:02:51 The American dream, create jobs.
01:02:53 But seriously, we just list off 11 teams that can make the playoffs because
01:02:58 that the league is so deep.
01:03:00 Like, just don't draft guys off the Celtics.
01:03:03 >> [LAUGH] Yeah, maybe don't, maybe chill with that.
01:03:07 Yeah, I don't know, I'm excited.
01:03:08 I'm happy- >> Or draft, do the expansion after this
01:03:10 year.
01:03:11 Draft all the best players, and then the Celtics can tank.
01:03:15 >> Get Cooper Flag.
01:03:16 >> Yeah.
01:03:16 >> Yeah, no, good to hear Zion excited about playing with those guys.
01:03:20 I just thought that was fun.
01:03:20 >> Get to play in a super cool new court.
01:03:23 >> Yes, yes, and there's our segue.
01:03:25 Thank you, Sam.
01:03:25 Pelicans released a new court.
01:03:27 And Sam was very upset because he thought it was gonna be an extra court, but
01:03:31 I think it's just- >> I'm kinda sick of the court designs.
01:03:34 Like Milwaukee, Milwaukee had that blue court that they used for
01:03:38 half the season, and they have another court.
01:03:41 Yeah, you have one court, you have one court.
01:03:43 You don't need multiple court designs.
01:03:45 You should have one jersey you wear at home.
01:03:48 So anyways, the Pelicans put a bunch of city-based designs on the border of
01:03:54 their court, Jack likes it.
01:03:56 I mean, I think it's fine.
01:03:57 And they made this video, and I was listening to music when I watched it, and
01:04:01 I didn't hear the audio on it.
01:04:03 And I was like, damn, this really vibes with the music I'm listening to.
01:04:07 >> [LAUGH] No, it's cool.
01:04:10 I mean, it looks like it's gonna be their main court.
01:04:12 This is gonna be the only court they have, which makes it a little better, so
01:04:15 it's not changing every time.
01:04:17 >> So Pelicans, one of two this offseason.
01:04:19 The jerseys they drop suck.
01:04:21 >> Yeah, you got the bird in the middle of the court.
01:04:23 >> They need to change this.
01:04:25 They need to do a purple, green, yellow color scheme like that.
01:04:30 Mardi Gras color scheme that they have the alternates for
01:04:33 needs to be there to fire.
01:04:35 >> I agree.
01:04:36 It's more unique, better than this boring thing.
01:04:38 >> None of these colors are good.
01:04:40 >> No, just like I think the Nuggets need to change from their current color scheme
01:04:43 back to the rainbow with the blue and yellow.
01:04:46 Agreed.
01:04:47 >> Agreed, but the powder blue with the gold looks better than that.
01:04:50 >> I agree, I like those as well.
01:04:52 But speaking of jerseys, the Hornets,
01:04:56 the latest in a string of these jerseys rule, good job Hornets.
01:05:00 Hornets released their new city jerseys, and
01:05:03 it's basically just their, it's like their retro jerseys, I should say.
01:05:06 >> 35 years.
01:05:08 >> Mm-hm, it's a throwback to the Del Curry era, I believe,
01:05:12 with the pinstripes.
01:05:14 >> Essentially the first team they ever had.
01:05:16 >> Yeah, I'll put it on the screen if you're watching on YouTube.
01:05:19 But basically it's just the teal jerseys with the three green, purple, and
01:05:24 light blue pinstripes.
01:05:25 >> Those look good.
01:05:26 >> This is when they were bar rocking them.
01:05:27 Very cool, I enjoy.
01:05:28 I think- >> That should be their default jersey.
01:05:31 >> I agree. >> The actual jerseys kinda suck.
01:05:33 >> Yes, I agree.
01:05:35 >> They should do a Bobcats jersey, how fun would that be?
01:05:37 >> Someone's saying they should bring back the cats, I think it's cool.
01:05:40 But yeah, good for the Hornets, they brought back cool jerseys and yeah,
01:05:44 W, W Hornets.
01:05:46 Let's see, do we have any other stuff?
01:05:48 And I believe the last thing we have for today, Sam,
01:05:50 is your Reddit post of the day.
01:05:52 >> Yes. >> So hit me with what you got.
01:05:54 >> This is a quick one, we'll kinda go back and forth, then we'll move on.
01:05:57 Reddit post of the day on the NBA community via user, Nam67.
01:06:03 What NBA star gets traded next?
01:06:05 Context, we are all very aware of Damon Harden trade requests.
01:06:09 But obviously, there is no traction on the actual deals despite months of chatter.
01:06:14 This was relatively a slow off season as far as blockbuster trades go.
01:06:19 But we saw big names like CP3 and Beal get shipped off somewhat unexpectedly.
01:06:24 Who do you think will be the next NBA star to get traded,
01:06:26 not talking quote unquote requests, but actually be traded?
01:06:31 My guess has to be one of the Clippers stars, Kawhi or Paul George.
01:06:35 I just can't fathom how they can continue to try and
01:06:37 compete with their best players right in the pine most of the year.
01:06:39 The Clippers definitely have work to do cuz they have no draft picks.
01:06:44 And they haven't really been as successful as they'd hoped since 2020.
01:06:49 >> Yeah. >> A quick mental sift flip through all
01:06:53 the teams.
01:06:54 I would say a reasonable expectation actually could be Zion, but
01:07:00 that would probably come at request.
01:07:01 I think somebody like.
01:07:05 >> If I had to pick, I'd say Karl Anthony Towns.
01:07:09 I think Kat gets traded.
01:07:10 >> Yeah, okay.
01:07:12 Apparently in the east, is there anybody that's kind of due?
01:07:15 Well, I guess it'd be.
01:07:16 >> Indeed, yeah, that might be the big one.
01:07:19 >> One of those Atlanta guards.
01:07:21 Low key, I think one of the Atlanta guards is going.
01:07:23 Cuz it doesn't make sense.
01:07:24 They both are better with the ball in their hands.
01:07:26 >> Siakam?
01:07:28 Siakam gets traded?
01:07:29 >> Well, he doesn't wanna leave.
01:07:30 >> Oddly enough.
01:07:31 >> I know, but still, you'd think they'd probably trade him regardless.
01:07:35 Chicago, do they finally do something?
01:07:38 >> Maybe.
01:07:39 >> Eventually, they gotta.
01:07:41 They gotta.
01:07:42 I don't know. >> I'm gonna say, I don't have the link.
01:07:45 >> That's a low key.
01:07:48 They're not gonna do it right away.
01:07:49 But if they continue down this road with how much the other teams are improving,
01:07:55 you have to imagine the Hornets are forced to trade the Mellow at some point, right?
01:08:00 >> I think they have a little window here to see how things pan out,
01:08:03 cuz they just drafted Brandon Miller.
01:08:05 >> I agree, but I don't think it's gonna pan out.
01:08:07 Who are they gonna make the playoffs over in the next five years?
01:08:10 >> Well. >> Realistically.
01:08:12 >> In the next five years?
01:08:14 >> The Magic, the Pacers, the Pistons,
01:08:15 they're not gonna be better than any of those teams in the next five years.
01:08:17 >> No, but they may end up being better than Philly.
01:08:21 >> Fine, given that.
01:08:23 >> Let's just say- >> Magic, Pacers, Pistons, Bucks, Celtics,
01:08:26 Cavs, Knicks, even the Hawks- >> Are the Bucks gonna be good forever?
01:08:29 Isn't Giannis' deal up after next year, and
01:08:31 then Middleton and Lopez are getting old, so is Holiday.
01:08:34 >> I don't care, if Giannis is there, they're gonna be better than the Hornets.
01:08:37 >> Well, he might not be there.
01:08:39 >> I think he will be, I don't think he'll leave Milwaukee, I think he's a lifer.
01:08:42 >> I hope he is, I think it's a respectable thing, but that's not guaranteed.
01:08:46 The Bucks' future is not solidified, they'll be better than Toronto.
01:08:50 >> I think the Hornets have the worst future in the East, and
01:08:53 that's including the Wizards.
01:08:54 >> I can see that.
01:08:58 >> I just don't, actually, no, I lied, sorry, that was too harsh.
01:09:00 Better future than the Bulls.
01:09:01 [LAUGH] >> Yes, Bulls, yeah.
01:09:05 >> Better future than probably the Raptors, Scotty Barnes.
01:09:08 >> I think so.
01:09:10 >> Better future, they're probably better than the Wizards,
01:09:12 I'm being a bit dramatic.
01:09:14 But past that, Philly, maybe is their future.
01:09:17 >> Let's see what the top replies are from the post.
01:09:19 >> I don't know, I think Carl- >> Someone said Cat.
01:09:22 >> Yeah.
01:09:23 >> That's probably, that's the top up vote getting one.
01:09:26 >> I think that's the best one.
01:09:27 >> Again, Raptors.
01:09:30 >> Yep, it's Yakim.
01:09:31 >> Bulls bring up their core.
01:09:33 Chris Middleton or Drew Holiday, that's actually not the dumbest take ever.
01:09:38 Cuz I just talked about those guys are getting old,
01:09:40 still have a little bit of value.
01:09:42 But Milwaukee's not trading either one of them, especially not Holiday,
01:09:46 unless you're getting something worthwhile back.
01:09:48 I can't think of any team that would wanna trade for
01:09:50 those guys that isn't desperate.
01:09:52 Meaning they don't really have anything to give up in return.
01:09:55 So unless some disaster happens in Milwaukee, it's not going to happen.
01:09:58 Someone said Brandon Ingram only has two years left in his contract.
01:10:02 Someone said I think Luka.
01:10:05 No.
01:10:06 >> [LAUGH] >> Mark Cuban said he'd rather get divorced.
01:10:10 >> It's true, it's interesting choice by Mark Cuban, I bet his wife loved that.
01:10:14 No, I don't know, I'd probably go Cat or Siakam.
01:10:16 I think those are the best two options.
01:10:17 All right, shall we go into the route list, Sam?
01:10:21 >> Yes.
01:10:23 >> You wanna leave this off or do you want me to go?
01:10:25 >> You can go, you have two written.
01:10:26 >> All right, I do.
01:10:28 >> Do that.
01:10:29 >> Actually, let's start off with an anti-rat list as I change math a rat here.
01:10:32 I wanna anti-rat list, we're on the wrong rat list, here we go.
01:10:36 We gotta get the background in too, here we go, don't worry about it.
01:10:39 I got it, I got it, I got it, we're here.
01:10:41 >> We made it. >> That was our rat list from the first
01:10:43 of the floor, took over the screen, that's fine.
01:10:45 Anti-rat list my mom, because as Sam mentioned, we are going to Las Vegas.
01:10:50 >> This is a great story.
01:10:51 And so I, for those who listen to this show probably know, I hate flying.
01:10:56 And I don't like change in general.
01:10:58 I am very content sitting in my room watching YouTube, hanging out, chilling,
01:11:01 vegging out, doing my work, and just chilling.
01:11:04 I like golfing, I like doing a few things, but
01:11:06 most of the time, sit here, do my work, it's fine.
01:11:09 So getting me to go on these vacations is hard, one, because I hate flying, and
01:11:13 two, cuz I love sleeping in my own bed and just staying home, big home.
01:11:17 So Sam texted me, update on Vegas.
01:11:19 He asked me for three days, and I would always go to respond, forget,
01:11:23 forget to talk to my family, and half of me was like, I don't know,
01:11:25 cuz I was internally deciding.
01:11:27 So figuring it out, finally text Sam back today.
01:11:30 And I'm like, I think I'm gonna pass, I don't like flying,
01:11:32 probably gonna save money, I'm not sure when I'm moving out.
01:11:34 >> No. >> Basically, making excuses.
01:11:36 >> At this point, I am in a work meeting, and
01:11:38 I'm like, I'm not gonna take my phone out to respond.
01:11:40 But I was like, okay, I'll be like, cuz I really just wanted you to not feel
01:11:44 like that. >> Did you see that?
01:11:45 Did you see that text when I was- >> No, I saw them.
01:11:47 I saw them as they came in.
01:11:49 >> Gotcha.
01:11:50 So I said that, and I was like, I don't know if I wanna go,
01:11:53 basically being a flake, effectively.
01:11:55 Not like that I was confirmed that I would go.
01:11:57 >> And then- >> I was like, I don't know.
01:11:59 >> Then I receive a text from Jack, and he's, actually, I'm gonna verbatim read it,
01:12:02 cuz I thought it was truly one of the funnier text exchanges.
01:12:04 >> Yeah, read it out, I texted this to Sam.
01:12:06 >> So this is my conversation with Jack.
01:12:08 I text him at 9 AM, I say, any update on Vegas?
01:12:12 Now, I don't expect a reply from Jack,
01:12:14 cuz he doesn't get up until the middle of the day.
01:12:15 >> [LAUGH] >> And then I check my phone,
01:12:18 I see he read it at 11 AM, so I was like, what the hell?
01:12:20 So it's 2.49, I'm like, sir.
01:12:22 He goes, sorry, I haven't talked to my mom, but
01:12:25 I'm probably leaning towards passing.
01:12:26 You go into detail, but then he goes, update,
01:12:30 my mom told me not to be a bitch and just go, so fuck it, I'm in.
01:12:33 >> [LAUGH] >> And that was the single greatest
01:12:37 text message I think I've ever received.
01:12:38 >> Yeah, so yeah, I called my mom.
01:12:42 I dropped Henry off at the dentist, and I was waiting for him to come out.
01:12:46 I called my mom, I'm like, yeah, Sam asked me to go to Vegas.
01:12:48 I don't really know if I wanna go, but maybe I should just stop being a bitch.
01:12:51 And she just goes, yeah, the second one.
01:12:52 I was like, what?
01:12:53 She's like, yeah, just go.
01:12:54 What are you doing?
01:12:54 I wish I could go to, I wish I went to Vegas when I was younger.
01:12:57 This sounds fun.
01:12:57 What's wrong with you?
01:12:59 And I said, I don't like flying.
01:13:00 And she goes, so get over it.
01:13:01 And I was like, all right, fuck it, fine.
01:13:03 I text Sam back, I'm like, yeah, I guess I'll go.
01:13:05 So it'll be fun.
01:13:06 >> All right, you're gonna have a blast.
01:13:07 >> Yeah, it'll be a good time.
01:13:08 So anti-rat list, my mom, she specifically told me, she goes,
01:13:12 don't fucking put me on the rat list anymore.
01:13:13 So this is an anti-rat list, just to make that clear.
01:13:15 So there we go, we're happy now.
01:13:19 >> All right, I will do rat list, the people that ride the motorized trikes.
01:13:25 Have you ever seen these cars,
01:13:28 like they have the two wheels in the front, the one in the back?
01:13:30 >> Yes.
01:13:32 >> Be an adult, four wheels.
01:13:36 You don't need to ride a trike anymore, you're not a toddler.
01:13:38 There was two of them when I was driving home today from basketball, and
01:13:41 they're just whizzing down the road.
01:13:43 And I live near the beach, so people come down with these things all the time.
01:13:48 I don't understand the appeal of these.
01:13:50 I don't think, I've never seen one and went, wow, that thing rules, I want one.
01:13:57 Yeah, I see old timey cars, and I'm like, wow, that's cool.
01:14:02 I don't even know what the market is for these things.
01:14:06 >> It's definitely- >> Either buy a motorcycle or don't.
01:14:10 >> Just pick one, right?
01:14:11 >> Yeah.
01:14:11 >> It's very weird, it's very weird.
01:14:14 I don't know, yeah, rat list those guys,
01:14:16 because they don't go fast enough to like, war it.
01:14:18 >> There used to be a guy that had a black one, and he would dress like Batman.
01:14:22 Swear to God.
01:14:23 He would ride around my neighborhood, like near the basketball court and
01:14:27 everything, and he would literally just have like that Batman mask on.
01:14:31 >> Quite the decision, it's quite the look.
01:14:33 I will go with, I have to tell the story, because I can't just rat list.
01:14:40 It's the dude in the bathroom when I was golfing, and
01:14:43 that's why I say it requires a story.
01:14:44 So I was at golf with my buddy Danny and two of his friends, and it was fun.
01:14:48 It's before the round, I head into the clubhouse, I'm like, all right,
01:14:50 let me pee before we get out there.
01:14:52 Go in, it was a single person bathroom, I knock, I see the lights on, but
01:14:56 I'm like, knock, knock, knock, don't hear anything.
01:14:58 I'm like, okay, whatever, let me open the door.
01:14:59 I open the door, it's open, so I'm like, okay, let me walk in.
01:15:01 Dude goes, whoa, I'm like, he goes, lucky for you, I got off the toilet.
01:15:05 And he was like laughing, he wasn't actually mad, but I'm like,
01:15:07 lock the fucking door, what are we doing?
01:15:10 Are you a child?
01:15:11 >> Maybe he wants someone to walk in, be like, sorry.
01:15:15 >> Rat list, lock the door, it's a single person bathroom that has a lock.
01:15:19 >> I don't know how you don't lock the door.
01:15:21 >> That's what I'm saying, also rat list people who use public bathrooms like
01:15:24 stalls and just pee with the door open.
01:15:27 Are you an animal?
01:15:28 I'm sorry, maybe this is me, do you see this anywhere?
01:15:30 Like at Celtics or Red Sox games or stuff, they just pee with the door open, and
01:15:33 I guess it's fine, because you can go to urinal too.
01:15:35 >> Why, they're not facing you.
01:15:36 >> I know, but if you are going to close the,
01:15:39 not even in the context that I don't like looking at it, but if you're going to go
01:15:43 to a stall. >> Is it like you get excited when you're
01:15:44 looking for a parking space and there's a motorcycle?
01:15:47 >> Yes, yes, exactly.
01:15:49 >> I can see that.
01:15:50 >> And also, the people who close the door but don't lock it, I have to look under
01:15:55 the stall for your fucking feet, just lock the door behind you if you're in a bathroom.
01:15:58 I don't care if it's the context of a stall or a single bathroom,
01:16:01 just avoid the awkwardness.
01:16:02 Take two seconds and be a human with a functioning fucking brain and
01:16:06 lock the door.
01:16:08 It just made no sense, it just was stupid.
01:16:10 Anyways, that pissed me off, yeah.
01:16:11 >> Rat List, the lady that blew the yield sign as, so
01:16:15 there's like two lanes to get onto the highway.
01:16:18 And I was in the one with no yield sign and she just blasts through.
01:16:22 Another situation, wish I had a tank.
01:16:27 Great time to teach a lesson.
01:16:29 Probably would have flipped her over and it would have been like, wow,
01:16:32 I probably shouldn't have blown that yield sign.
01:16:34 It's okay.
01:16:35 She definitely is not in the best of health and
01:16:37 probably won't live as long as me.
01:16:38 So who's really winning?
01:16:40 Did she get on the highway first?
01:16:41 Yes, might get in the casket first.
01:16:44 >> Wow, that's quite the take.
01:16:49 No, no, we'll leave it, that's all you.
01:16:52 I don't think I have much else more.
01:16:56 Rat List, the people at golf who played too slow.
01:16:58 >> You literally had two things on the sheet.
01:17:00 >> Yeah, I said both of these.
01:17:01 I didn't even, I forgot about this one.
01:17:02 Yes, I forgot.
01:17:03 I thought the other one, I thought I put the Vegas story on the sheet, but I didn't.
01:17:06 Rat List, Dunkin' seasonal flavors, just because it's stupid.
01:17:09 Just have all the flavors, just have them all.
01:17:11 I think it's dumb.
01:17:12 I mean, I'm not complaining.
01:17:13 I like pumpkin spice is my thing.
01:17:15 I'm a big fan of pumpkin spice flavor.
01:17:16 I don't know if you've had the, it's called nutty pumpkin, which sounds weird.
01:17:21 >> I've seen it.
01:17:22 I do not get the flavor coffees from Dunkin'.
01:17:24 I get the unsweetened ones.
01:17:25 Too many calories.
01:17:26 They combine hazelnut and pumpkin, and it's very good.
01:17:29 And that's what I've been getting lately.
01:17:30 I think I have two on my desk right now that I finished that I need to throw away.
01:17:33 Very good. >> You remember when they had the peanut
01:17:34 butter flavor last fall?
01:17:36 >> Mm-hm.
01:17:36 >> And the coffee was fucking orange.
01:17:39 >> Yeah, it was not good.
01:17:40 >> You would get the coffee, and it was the color of a Reese's wrapper.
01:17:44 >> It was gross. >> It's like, I'm not taking years off
01:17:46 my life.
01:17:46 >> I don't understand.
01:17:49 Do they, they must have a marketing team that weighs it.
01:17:52 They probably make more money cuz people are excited for it.
01:17:54 But you'd think they'd make- >> That's what it is.
01:17:56 >> But you'd think they'd make just as much or
01:17:58 more if people could just have it all year round.
01:17:59 Because there's gotta be some people who are like, I'll just get pumpkin.
01:18:02 I like it, they have it, let's just get pumpkin.
01:18:04 But I don't know, I just have all the fucking flavors.
01:18:06 I think that's a wrap.
01:18:07 >> See, I like when the coffee flavor is brewed into the coffee.
01:18:10 I don't like the shots.
01:18:11 I don't want them to put syrup in my coffee, cuz it's not really good.
01:18:15 But if they bake it into the beans or whatever.
01:18:18 >> I know what you mean.
01:18:19 I know what you mean. >> It doesn't add any calories.
01:18:21 It's not worse for you, and it's still just as good.
01:18:23 You just put the sweeteners in, it's awesome.
01:18:25 Nothing beats it.
01:18:26 I personally saw the maple sugar bacon sandwiches back.
01:18:33 Let me tell you.
01:18:34 >> Is that what you like?
01:18:35 >> I may have to break my routine to enjoy that, because I'm a fan.
01:18:39 I loved it last year.
01:18:41 Yep, they got me, they got me.
01:18:44 I might have to go get it.
01:18:46 >> Do you know what I'm gonna get to, Duncan?
01:18:48 I might get made fun of.
01:18:50 The avocado toast at Duncan, actually good.
01:18:53 >> See, I don't think that's filling enough.
01:18:55 >> I get two, I got two.
01:18:56 And I got the one with bacon on top, so there was a little extra thing.
01:18:59 >> But even then, you could have two chicken sandwiches from Chick-fil-A,
01:19:04 probably, for similar calories.
01:19:07 >> See, this is the difference.
01:19:08 I don't fucking care about the calories.
01:19:09 I'm not counting them.
01:19:11 >> You'd be more satisfied.
01:19:14 >> They're good.
01:19:14 No, I enjoyed it.
01:19:15 I enjoyed that.
01:19:15 I ate that in my coffee, and I was happy, and I was chilling, and then I had dinner.
01:19:19 >> I know.
01:19:20 I know, chat, rat list me, because I know when the guy's like, hey,
01:19:25 this is how many calories are in the thing you're eating, it's never fun.
01:19:29 I ruined these snacks for my girlfriend.
01:19:31 She was like, Costco has these, whatever, granola clusters.
01:19:36 I love them.
01:19:37 It's my favorite snack.
01:19:38 And I looked in the bag.
01:19:39 I'm like, you know every time you eat one of these, it's 100 calories?
01:19:42 And she doesn't eat them anymore.
01:19:45 >> Rat list, yes, absolutely.
01:19:46 >> No, I know, I'm a scumbag, piece of shit.
01:19:49 >> Like ruining food for people.
01:19:51 >> We were at Mohegan Sun, and we got Chick-fil-A.
01:19:54 We just got a couple sandwiches.
01:19:55 Sam was like, I can house another one.
01:19:57 I'm like, just get another one.
01:19:58 He's like, no, I'm out of calories.
01:19:59 >> I'm at my limit.
01:20:00 Yeah, I was at my limit.
01:20:01 I just slammed back a donut.
01:20:03 You have to weigh these things.
01:20:05 >> I know, chat has told me before, I'm not in shape.
01:20:09 I'm a bit overweight.
01:20:09 It's fine.
01:20:10 >> The best thing is when you know and you're in control of, okay, I can have this,
01:20:16 I can have this.
01:20:16 So you're like, I have calories left.
01:20:19 I have 1,000 calories.
01:20:20 I'm gonna eat a whole pizookie by myself cuz I can.
01:20:23 >> I would rather be fat and happy than counting calories.
01:20:27 And that- >> I am happy.
01:20:29 >> And I know, and I'm happy for you.
01:20:30 >> I'm thrilled.
01:20:31 >> I know, and that's amazing.
01:20:33 If I had to count calories, I would not be happy.
01:20:34 I like food.
01:20:35 >> You would adjust to it.
01:20:36 It's not easy at first.
01:20:37 >> Don't care, I'm out.
01:20:38 I don't care.
01:20:39 I'm happy with the way that I get to eat whatever I want and not give a shit.
01:20:42 And I blissfully don't care.
01:20:45 So that's the way I'm gonna continue to be.
01:20:47 I move slowly at basketball, but I get up and down the court.
01:20:50 Actually, we played basketball, Rattlers, the gym we play in.
01:20:55 Yeah, Rattlers, my glasses won for breaking.
01:20:57 But Rattlers, the gym we play in, because every time I thought I would make a shot,
01:21:01 it was just a fucking ceiling.
01:21:02 >> Last week at the gym, by the way.
01:21:03 So we are back at the other one.
01:21:05 >> All right, no, I couldn't, I'm Rattlers myself, I couldn't make a shot.
01:21:08 But when I can't make a shot, and we've talked about this before,
01:21:12 a lot of people just cherry pick on offense cuz they can't run.
01:21:15 I do the opposite.
01:21:16 I know I'm not running up with these motherfuckers.
01:21:18 I know, I can't run with these guys on offense.
01:21:20 So I let Sam and my teammates run, and I just stay back in defense.
01:21:24 And in my defense, I stopped a few fast breaks.
01:21:26 >> No, you didn't.
01:21:27 >> I got back there and I played- >> The best part of the night was your
01:21:29 glass had been broken, so you're playing blind.
01:21:31 And you throw a great bounce pass to me on the break, and
01:21:35 you didn't even mean to throw it to me.
01:21:36 You were like- >> To win the game.
01:21:37 >> Yeah, that was not meant for you.
01:21:38 >> No, and no, I saw who I was supposed to, I was trying to pass it to Raul.
01:21:42 And I saw him, and then I saw the lane close, and I saw defenders there.
01:21:46 I was like, shit, I turned away.
01:21:47 And the last second I saw you sprint through and grab the pass and put it up.
01:21:51 So everyone came up to me after, awesome pass, and I'm just sitting there.
01:21:54 I tell Sam, I said, Sam, that pass was not, that wasn't for you.
01:21:57 >> Yeah. >> No, it was good though.
01:21:58 That was a good game.
01:21:59 Those are good runs.
01:22:01 But yeah, that's all I got for the Rattles.
01:22:03 You got anything else or are we about done with the Rattles for today?
01:22:08 >> We're all done.
01:22:09 >> All right. >> All done.
01:22:10 I'm very hungry.
01:22:12 >> I am too, I am too.
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