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00:00 here, John Zanis, Taylor Kiles, Taylor Kiles in Foxborough hanging out. Late, late, late
00:06 one, technically Monday right now, it's a school day. And for those of you awake, you're
00:12 still probably stewing a little bit about how the game ended and how the Patriots have
00:17 fallen to 0-2. And there's probably a bunch of things on your mind right now and Taylor's
00:21 going to try to put as much of it in perspective as he possibly can. There's a lot, there's
00:28 quite a bit to talk about from this game. I guess we'll start at the end only because
00:33 that's what is kind of fresh on everyone's mind. Anyone who's watching this show obviously
00:37 knows how the game ended here, the Patriots lost the second game in a row, the ball in
00:44 their hands, a chance to drive for a tying score. And in this case, they fell short.
00:49 What was it at the 31 yard line? The third around 30 yard line, 29 on a play where fourth
00:57 and three, they tried to get it to Mike Gusecki. He was short, kind of got blown off the, you
01:01 know, blown back a little bit, throws to Cole Strange. Strange plows forward, falls. It's
01:06 deemed a first down. Video review overturns it. I mean, honestly, I think it was the right
01:12 call. I also just think it's a really difficult thing to say that it was beyond the shadow
01:17 of a doubt obvious when the ruling on the field was that whatever. So again, it's that
01:21 kind of shady. What that what, what, what do you need to see to overturn a play? Did
01:28 you think you saw enough there to overturn that? Taylor, I thought it was going to be
01:32 tough. There was an angle where his knee was down and I was like, all right, maybe but
01:38 I didn't see the ball, which is why I thought they were working over turning because like
01:42 you said, I could see I can't just say that was a bad call. Because I do understand, you
01:49 know, some of the logic behind it. But at the same time looking at it myself, I was
01:52 like, that's gonna be tough to overturn. I'm not so sure that they can. Plus the rule of
01:56 cool, like two weeks in a row, it should apply. And it doesn't. If something looks frickin
02:01 sick, let it play out. It's what the fans want. And I thought, you know, that would
02:06 have been awesome. But I don't get to make those calls. Yeah, it was a tough call. And
02:12 I'm addressing it now. Because honestly, I don't want to talk about it very much. And
02:15 the reason being is that I don't think it matters. Like it happened, and it stinks.
02:22 But it's not it wasn't to win the game or to whatever it was to give them a chance to
02:27 continue trying to score. And they were still down. The issue is, look, their defense kept
02:34 them in the game in the second half. But the what you're going to take away from this game
02:40 is, they have some serious problems on offense. And there are some of the problems that there
02:47 are, let's I'm not, I don't want to make it sound like it's a we told you so thing. It's
02:53 just your worst kind of fears being realized in terms of what this offense can do, and
02:59 what it's capable of doing, based off of what I'm afraid is at this moment in time, personnel
03:05 limitations. Mack Jones, I don't know how much you can put on him here. I think he has
03:10 his limits with his arm strength and his ability to push the ball down the field, Taylor. But
03:14 I thought he played a pretty good game. He manipulated the pocket once again when he
03:17 had to made a couple of really money throws. You know, great back foot one to Devante Parker
03:22 made a nice couple nice throws to juju, you know, a horrible interception. But again,
03:28 that happens too. We can talk about that. But I don't think this isn't, you know, Mac's
03:34 such an easy target here. I know I'm one of the first to say I think he has a ceiling
03:40 that's going to cap how far you can go. But I just don't think you can do anything with
03:45 an offense that has an office because again, the offensive line was only missing one starter
03:50 tonight. Okay, so it wasn't a wholesale everybody's out. That was Trent Brown. And that's a tough
03:55 one to overcome. But there's no push at all. There's the running game after two weeks has
04:02 been an absolute disaster. So if you can't run the ball and you don't have the weapons
04:08 or the quarterback or whatever to push the ball downfield, you're really, really, really
04:15 limited. They can just live in this intermediate zone. They had what would be categorized as
04:20 two explosive plays all night. And those were runs. One was a Mac Jones run. One was a remandre.
04:26 Almost every other every you know, Mac through three quarters had not completed a pass more
04:31 than 10 yards down the field. That's a really you're living in a really small box there
04:36 when you're trying to play offense here. So how concerned are you by what you've seen
04:41 with what this offense is able to do so far?
04:44 I think the biggest takeaway and this is one of those things where I wanted to see the
04:48 on field product before I made a big deal out of it. Because I do think we're seeing
04:53 O'Brien scheme allows them to move the ball methodically. Like we have not seen an offense
04:58 where it's like three and out three and out three and out. This offense the past two weeks
05:02 has been putting drives together. But then it becomes a couple of good ones. The margin
05:06 for error is so small. One because of pass protection and run blocking the offensive
05:12 line because injuries because of mostly because of injuries like Cole Strange did not look
05:18 good. From the things you could tell from the live part of today's game. Mike had when
05:23 you had to sub out for Tony O'Mafi for I think a lot of the second half. We think how would
05:28 Anderson related or he wasn't playing well. I really don't know. I don't think you put
05:34 a Tony O'Mafi in for Mike and what he because Mike and what he's not playing well. Like
05:37 I think that was probably more just physical limitations. Then Calvin Anderson where I
05:44 thought he was better off at the left tackle spot because that's where he's been for a
05:47 lot of his career. So I don't know how much that's factored in and he missed all summer.
05:51 But he was beaten several times as well. So the offensive line is already setting you
05:55 back for any offense that's going to make things harder. And then that's capitalized
05:59 by the fact that Devontae Parker loses gets bodied out by Xavier Howard on what was not
06:04 a good throw for Mac to be fair. But at the same time you want to go back. Yeah exactly.
06:09 And then Devontae Parker. There were a lot of 50 50s. They were like the pass wasn't
06:12 great for Mac but also like Kendrick Bourne wants to be this big play guy and that's what
06:15 he's shown flashes up and he can't make those tough grabs where guys are really close and
06:20 he gets a shot downfield. And that's been the case the past two weeks. It was actually
06:24 all pretty. The deep ball was actually a very good ball by Mac to Kendrick Bourne in the
06:28 first first one. And he only gets a left hand on it. And that was almost like a goofy looking
06:34 attempt at someone. I thought for a second maybe his right arm was being held back a
06:39 little and it wasn't. It was just a bad attempt at that ball. That's got to be right there
06:44 for Kendrick for KB and he doesn't make that play. Yeah. So it's just you don't have the
06:50 big play threat you can consistently rely on. Now I again I think that Devontae Parker
06:54 can be that most weeks. I just didn't like I don't like when Mac targets Devontae Parker
06:59 when he's matched up against like really legitimate. Yeah. Don't throw 50 50 balls against good
07:03 corners right. Right. Like I'm cool with it against 90 percent of players like Devontae
07:08 Parker can make a living because he's very good at that. But Xavier Howard gets the money
07:12 he gets because he doesn't allow those. That's where I'm like hey man you got to pick your
07:17 spots for a fifth. Exactly. For a 50 50 ball receiver like like like like that Devontae
07:23 Parker is when you're playing against a corner like that the other 50 sometimes results in
07:28 interceptions not in completions. The risk reward is simply not there. And that was just
07:33 a very ill advised especially in that spot especially in scoring territory. Yeah. Like
07:39 that's a huge difference maker. They even just get a field goal there. It changes the
07:42 completion of the game. But yeah I just I just think the margin for error is slow slim
07:47 because one who knows how long it's going to be until their offensive line is in the
07:50 spot where you're like yeah they're cohesive they can run the ball effectively if they
07:54 are. If they are. We don't know. Right. That's what I'm that's what I'm saying. So like even
07:58 until if that even happens then it's OK. Well are your guys are your playmakers going to
08:02 make plays. I think the tight ends do a good job that every time the tight end something
08:06 could happen but the receivers stay on the line. OK. Because I do want to ask you at
08:11 best at best entering the year. OK. At best you had four people you thought you could
08:19 call starters. Trent Brown absolutely has been effective when he's been asked to play
08:24 but you know there's health issues and this and that. He's been more comfortable on the
08:28 right than the left. But whatever that's one. David Andrews is David Andrews solid pro you
08:33 know what you have there and on when he's coming off a terrific year slotting back into
08:38 his guard position which he's best suited to play. We don't know of Cole Strange is
08:43 a plus offensive NFL lineman yet. We don't have any idea. He might not be. He was thrust
08:49 into the starting lineup last year and got benched several times for performance issues.
08:53 We don't know who he is yet. He might be good. We don't know who he is yet. So I will say
08:59 though tonight I don't read three and a half feel good about and still a hole. So I don't
09:04 know that you ever get to a point that it's anything better than serviceable but it's
09:09 also potentially horrible like it's been in the sense that there's just not enough there
09:14 even though Mac didn't get sacked he was pressured on one third of his throws by the Eagles who
09:19 didn't really blitz much last week. And then you know they had a bunch of coverage breakdowns
09:24 today and they can't run the ball at all right now. So you're getting nothing out of this
09:28 offensive line. Maybe it gets there but do you really think that like they can turn it
09:34 around to the point that this is a good unit. I do think that when healthy they can be.
09:40 Now I think it's very important to remember that. OK so Trent Brown he didn't look good
09:45 run blocking last week but he gets paid for fast protection. Cole Strange I think is good.
09:49 The things that he was having lapses with tonight were not things that I saw last year
09:53 as big issues. I think it's fair to assume that he's going to take a step once he's healthy.
09:57 Daily Andrews David Andrews Mike and when he was one of the best players in his position
10:01 I think he just needs to get healthy and be someone who you can rely on. You know be there
10:04 every week right tackle is still going to be a question mark. But I don't think that
10:09 either one of these games have come down to Calvin Anderson. It's been the interior is
10:13 giving up pressure so fast that Matt can't do anything like you can get like Darian Lowe
10:17 told me they preach in New England protect inside out because even if you give up pressure
10:22 outside Mac can step up like he's not one of those guys who's going to scramble but
10:26 he maneuvers the pocket very well and we saw that tonight. So I do think if this offensive
10:30 line is better your margin for error is higher because you know players still need to make
10:35 plays but we saw that Matt Jones like past two four quarters he's been outstanding like
10:41 he's making all the throws that he needs to make. It hasn't necessarily been perfect like
10:44 much better than last year. So I throw the case on booty. Yeah like that when he kind
10:48 of double clutch but he's throwing it and delivering catchable balls and guys aren't
10:52 helping him out. And that's maybe the most frustrating part. But also why I say this
10:57 season isn't like other seasons because Max rookie year he was a lot of the reason that
11:02 they weren't doing well as well as turnovers like there were also times where they just
11:06 gave the ball away in horrible situations. Last year was coaching where they got behind
11:10 the ball because they were just terribly led and guys were just trying to survive out there.
11:15 This year the offensive coordinator I thought there were a couple if he calls but like again
11:19 that's the margin for error where no offensive coordinator is perfect. No quarterback is
11:22 perfect but those two positions have been keeping you in these games and putting you
11:26 in position to win them. Now it's OK. This is where you know I don't like to be the weapons
11:31 guy because I think if you've got a lot of service if you've got a lot of veterans who
11:34 are proven and reliable you're fine and for the most part I think they have that. But
11:38 now we're starting to see OK that lack of a true consistent like a T. Higgins Tyree
11:43 killed like not having those types of guys. I don't think it's too early for me to say
11:48 that's going to tank their season because again we don't know what they look like with
11:51 the healthy line but that's stood out a couple of times where you're like damn man it would
11:55 be nice if they had one guy who could flip the field really quickly or have a big play
11:59 where they don't necessarily need to keep putting these long drives together. And I
12:03 mean again they bite themselves in the foot because they have mistakes they have negative
12:07 plays and they just can't have those like other things they can make up for it they
12:12 can't make up for the negative plays. That's the other thing is they're still playing dumb.
12:17 You're talking about a team that's like two and nine I think over its last like this is
12:21 a team that's a you go date back to last year and again last year can be attributed to coaching
12:28 disorganization this and that still some really dumb stuff lining up offside on a freaking
12:32 kickoff you know bad penalties that are extending drives you know obviously the turnovers are
12:39 things that continue that can't happen. I mean you're shooting yourself in the foot
12:42 with some stuff here that's just still sloppy. And again when you talk about the margin for
12:47 error being so small you've got to be perfect in that other stuff and they're not perfect
12:51 here at all. So I don't know. I mean I guess this feels like it's a chickens coming home
12:58 to roost sort of thing with both the old line and the and the and the and the you know and
13:05 the receivers it's yeah I mean it's the same thing like kind of baseball can you know can
13:11 a professional pitcher in the majors be effective without a 98 mile an hour fastball.
13:16 Sure if all the secondary stuff is great and he's painting corners you know and he's and
13:21 he's he can do every other thing yeah you can find a Greg Maddux out there but unless
13:25 you're perfect in everything the talent on the field matters and right now they're just
13:30 not good enough to with the personnel to be making to be playing this inconsistent and
13:40 you know inconsistently and sloppy brand of football. So you've got some problems here
13:45 that they really have to you're right if they tighten everything up get healthy run more
13:50 efficient absolutely they can they can probably string together enough drives and with this
13:55 defense keep themselves in games and win some games. But right now everyone's just going
14:00 to look at that offense and be like see there's the kid why didn't we get alignment why didn't
14:06 we get receivers that's going to be what the conversation is going to center around until
14:11 something changes if it's and I will say and you know me Mr. Optimist like I have been
14:15 realistic already because the product has not been there like that is 100% true on the
14:22 bright side which I know normal more victories all that you know who else is going to right
14:26 now the Bengals like you it's not impossible to get out of an 0 and 2 rut and the players
14:30 all emphasize like there's a lot like I think somebody asked Mike a sticky and he was not
14:35 happy about it she was like you're going to the odds are not in your favor to make anything
14:40 of this season so how do you guys feel like about making something of this and he was
14:45 he seemed a little pissed off he was like there's a lot of football left to play and
14:49 I think that's true like there's plenty of winnable games on their schedule and when
14:52 you think about it these are two of the toughest teams they're going to play all year they
14:56 were predicted to be owing to anyway because they were underdogs at home and they had a
15:00 chance to win both of these games I got what do you say they're underdogs in 13 of 17 games
15:06 right I understand that I understand I understand I totally get that I totally get that but
15:10 also we're saying like this is not the version of the team health wise or just in terms of
15:16 execution that we think we're going to see moving on like we always say it takes them
15:20 so Thanksgiving to figure things out to a degree that's you know that's a little easier
15:23 to say when you got Brady and all those things and you know but they have a great coaching
15:27 staff they have a group of leaders who are I think very accountable there are a lot of
15:31 veterans there's not a lot of young guys you're depending on like Mario Douglas it'd be nice
15:35 if he becomes contributor I think he could be a difference maker but he gets benched
15:39 after one fumble but I do think that we've seen Mac Jones can really step it up in the
15:43 fourth quarter when he needs to like what do you need in games like this you need a
15:46 quarterback who's going to put you in position to succeed Mac has done that against two very
15:50 good defenses and one great all-time great defensive coordinator and the things that
15:55 have worked against him are an offensive line that we expect to get better and sometimes
15:59 his receivers just aren't executing if that continues and yes they're going to be screwed
16:03 and also the defense keeps getting stops when they need them to a degree did they get lucky
16:07 a couple times 100% but it's the NFL sometimes you get lucky can you capitalize and the defense
16:12 did that so it's only two weeks in if we're talking about a team that's lost five games
16:17 before Thanksgiving then yeah like all that what I'm saying right now goes out the window
16:21 because it's too late and you've dug yourself into a crazy hole but I do think against the
16:26 Jets tough defense offense as long as you don't crap your pants they should be fine
16:30 I think they have some games coming up where they can get some Dallas Cowboys are also
16:34 going to be a tough out but I do think they have enough winnable games to get back on
16:38 schedule get some confidence Wilson seriously no seriously this this this was a buzzsaw
16:44 before Zach Wilson Zach Wilson is just what the doctor ordered exactly but I do think
16:49 that there's been enough signs that like this is not an incompetent team and Matt Judon
16:53 before he even took comments or questions today said this ain't a bad team like we're
16:58 not bad we know what we need to fix we just need to play the way we play in the second
17:01 half in the first half because they balled out in the second half of both these games
17:04 or you know Mac for the most part the offense didn't always follow through and help them
17:08 out but like there you see glimpses of oh yeah this team can compete with two of the
17:13 league's playoff frontrunners they just need to finish I have 15 games to figure it out
17:19 so I'm just you know that's my optimistic spiel but at the same time they are not showing
17:24 they can finish and that is what's most it's not just one thing that doesn't get easier
17:29 and we're not going to get to next week yet is the Jets defense is the best defense that
17:34 they'll face so far potentially that's that's going to be a challenge for them for that
17:40 old line that's going to be very difficult I know the other two but with their with their
17:44 corners and this and that that's going to be tough now you mentioned the DeMario Douglas
17:48 benching we also mentioned you know what what we expect from this team in terms of win total
17:54 for the season and as I said they are underdogs in a shocking number of games this year and
18:00 I don't think anything's necessarily going to change here though the Jets losing Aaron
18:03 Rogers does flip things a little bit before we proceed and we're going to talk about what
18:09 both what's coming down the road and then a couple of other things from today including
18:13 a very curious benching which bothers me in a zillion different ways and we'll talk about
18:20 that too but first you want to know God it's not though that's that that's what bugs me
18:25 is it's not it's inconsistent it's in no he's done it he did it he remanded fumbled and
18:32 everyone's a good old see him again and he was back he he's he's changed his tune on
18:37 that stuff with people left and right he's not consistent I don't know what DeMario did
18:43 that was such a hangable offense here remanded also I will say remanded has been like a I'm
18:49 just saying for that one example he's been a massive outlier in his entire career like
18:52 got way more carries than any running back that they usually draft yes but I don't think
18:56 it was a very early consistent on the doghouse stuff I think he lets people get away with
19:00 big mistakes and then he punishes others indiscriminately I don't get it but anyway we're talking quickly
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20:18 I found that odd he didn't play he fumbled didn't play another snap after a first quarter
20:26 fumble again why let's just make it simple why you have I don't think it's it's sad that
20:38 it's the case but I don't think that you can argue I mean maybe it's born but Demario Douglas
20:44 probably your most explosive player and the person who might be able to get you some chunk
20:49 yards when you've been dinking and dunking your way down the field and trying to be perfect
20:52 on these drives he can be a game changer for you I don't think you have the luxury to take
20:59 a player like that off the field to send a message at all I don't think you can do that
21:05 so I don't understand why this happened.
21:08 Yeah man I don't I don't really know either and then they kept him on the field as a punt
21:14 returner like Belichick was very adamant I mean he was lying to us but he was adamant
21:20 about it let's hear it here's Bill what went into this into the decision to keep Demario
21:26 Douglas off the field after his first quarter fumble yeah we played all of our skill players
21:32 I don't think we saw him take another offensive snap after that play I mean look we had a
21:40 lot of production on offense so Parker had a good day Chika hit just like he had a good
21:46 day on a good day juju KP so you know a lot of good players can't play everybody okay
21:57 look you made the call bill to Benjam the world isn't stupid everybody saw it he didn't
22:06 play again after a fumble just own it right yeah why be coy on top of it yeah look false
22:15 security matters like you're gonna be the tough guy on the sideline follow through there
22:21 like yeah you're fucking you're good you're damn right I sat him can't do that I don't
22:27 care who you are you got to earn it we can't be through we can't be loose with the ball
22:31 like that yeah I mean I don't know like I don't you know this isn't really my area like
22:37 it is what it is the way I see it he did it whether or not he admits it I don't really
22:42 care like we all saw it happen he trusted my turn punts but not enough for the offense
22:48 and I don't know man like clearly I think DeMario would have been a difference maker
22:53 and giving you more big plays and you got without him but at the same time like and
23:00 they have plenty receivers that's another thing like all right so think about Ramond
23:03 Dre it was just him and Damian Harris like I think James White had already gotten hurt
23:07 at that point I'm not positive but in terms of like running back Ramond Dre was got special
23:11 treatment because it was him and Damian Harris and Damian Harris kept getting hurt DeMario
23:15 is on what in terms of just bodies is a pretty loaded risk like position obviously skill
23:22 wise you're not gonna say they're like up there or anything but they have enough bodies
23:25 and they were like all right if he's gonna fumble then I don't trust you we're gonna
23:29 put in Juju because his knee is not going to explode so I think that was the thinking
23:34 there but at the same time man like I don't care it was it was I I don't agree with the
23:39 decision but it's Bill Belichick and I don't really care whether or not he lied to our
23:44 faces about it like it is what it is I don't care the lie I just don't understand why not
23:48 own it you bench the guy and so it's just the question is what should should you have
23:53 benched him you know not like well he played I don't like to this I say I don't like the
23:59 decision but they had enough bodies that I understood the logic and again it's not like
24:04 not having DeMario Douglas is necessarily why that play happened I think Mike Kosicki
24:09 and I'll look back on it real quick Mike Kosicki acknowledged that Mac okay I'm looking right
24:14 now Mac got hit and had to throw off his back foot which made this throw a little short
24:20 and Kosicki said he had to come back to it and then heard the sideline start cheering
24:25 realized he was short and then threw it back you can see they who got free yeah a blitzer
24:32 from Nick Bradley Chubb was inside got through and Mac had to throw off his back foot in
24:37 the past was short so it's not DeMario Douglas doesn't make I mean maybe he slips a tackle
24:41 or whatever but I also don't know if they're putting in position to be that guy on that
24:45 play just they couldn't they couldn't finish like I again I think DeMario Douglas helps
24:51 you I don't think he's the reason you lost the game no I don't think so either but I
24:57 mean how do you know it's just if you're better with him on the field keep him on the friggin
25:01 field like I said is you don't really have the luxury to mess around here to send messages
25:07 I don't know whether Jack Jones is truly injured or that's a message as well I think you need
25:11 every healthy body you can get right now where it you know Def Con let's call it three you
25:17 know it's it's it's you can't you just can't you just can't mess around here now the way
25:24 things were trending did you see Juju on the outside looking in again before Douglas got
25:29 benched I think I was out there for some but he wasn't out there for all he was looking
25:37 at behind looking at how they use certain packages last week I think it really did just
25:42 have to do with how they were like there were packages where DeMario was the only wide out
25:46 on the field it was all just like tight ends and and a running back in this week that was
25:52 Devante Parker so again I think they do just see DeMario as a playmaker I don't think they
25:57 see Juju in the same light I don't think they're like yes this is a separator who's gonna make
26:01 a big place all the time I think they see him as a guy who can be high volume they can
26:04 make catches and you know get what's there so yeah I wouldn't be surprised if I don't
26:10 think that DeMario is behind Juju I just think that there are certain times they're like
26:13 yeah we'd rather have DeMario's explosiveness but yeah I think that whole thing is a little
26:19 overblown now that I was able to look at the tape I know last week I said I thought Juju
26:25 was lying I don't know you know like they were the media they don't have to be totally
26:30 honest with us but at the same time again looking at how those two were used I think
26:35 packages did have something to do with it as well.
26:38 Juju's supposed to be a yak guy right?
26:40 Juju's supposed to be a get it open in the middle of the field and then do something
26:43 with it right now he's a possession receiver.
26:47 Yeah which is and and this is one of those things it's kind of like Janu where you see
26:51 the plays and this is like we I'm always growing as you know an analyst and all these things
26:56 and there are things I need to do better and things that you know sometimes when they get
27:00 a guy I have a role in vision for him based on his production and then I'll look back
27:04 at the film and say okay what did I maybe miss here?
27:08 And I think I started to kind of come along to this as I was watching more Juju and as
27:12 I watched Camp and then it's just like if teams are bad at tackling he'll thrive like
27:17 he'll break a tackle and then I think he has enough juice where he can get a big play more
27:21 so than maybe Jacoby did.
27:23 I still stand by I mean with his knee I think maybe a little that has been taken away but
27:29 I would say that yeah it's just like if teams tackle well then he can't really do that as
27:34 often and he does need space to kind of build up ahead of steam to get there and again I
27:38 think the knee thing did play a factor in that because he does look a tick slower but
27:46 yeah I think that does kind of hurt but at the same time if DeMario Douglas learns from
27:50 his mistake and then by midseason he's somebody that's like your top three receiver I think
27:54 this offense will look a lot better because he's got that big play ability or even underneath
27:58 he can make things happen he's just got to learn there are things in the NFL you just
28:01 can't do.
28:03 I think the doghouse I also think part of the reason maybe he was put in the doghouse
28:07 so quickly was one like I said bodies but also like they clearly like him they had a
28:12 big role for him all the way back in training camp like to start the first day he was working
28:16 with Mac and all the main guys on another field I think they're being harder on him
28:20 than other people like sometimes you can hear it from the coaches when they're talking to
28:24 him I don't know like you know they're hard on everybody but they seem very critical of
28:29 him in a way where they're like yo like you need to be on point because I think they know
28:33 they're going to need a lot from him so I think part of it is just that understanding
28:37 that this is somebody who we know I get it to be a big role player and you know I do
28:42 think that factors in as well but at the same time it sucks because he's a really good player
28:45 and you'd like to see him on the field and honestly like on a human level like I don't
28:50 know anyone saw the postgame with him he looked sad you know like yeah I felt I felt I that's
28:56 one thing I'm learning now that I'm on my job man like it's tough I have this thing
29:01 where when I'm uncomfortable I laugh and it's it's I was in the locker room and I felt so
29:07 bad because people are all upset and like the vibe is awful and I'm just like my body
29:12 wants to laugh my just because this is so bad but like I can't do that so I'm just like
29:16 I'm working down trying to avoid eye contact my wife has that it's she can't stop herself
29:24 she can't stop herself if someone's telling her some really bad news she her instinct
29:29 is to laugh and she can't stop it it's a weird I do it at funerals man I'll be sitting there
29:36 and everyone's crying and I'm just like oh god it's happening I look like a jerk but
29:40 yeah it was like I did feel bad I felt bad for Demario because he's a good kid and he's
29:45 like yeah yeah man I don't know you know just anyway it was tough we are gonna we're gonna
29:52 put a sunny bow on things because there was good stuff to talk about regarding the defense
29:59 again and again we're talking about a defense that did it without John Jones John Jones
30:03 is vital to the defending Tyreek Hill she's one of the few humans alive that can run with
30:09 them a little bit you know like the Pats have done that where they will let John Jones run
30:14 with Tyreek because he can you know there's another four two guy and you know obviously
30:20 with a little bit of help there so that was going to be a challenge right off the gate
30:24 there and then Marcus Jones goes down immediately too and you've obviously got Jack Jones in
30:29 jail right now not jail jail but in IR or whatever you know in the doghouse slash your
30:35 heads getting cut off I want to see all of you yeah so but the defense did its part again
30:44 against you know an offense that looked like ridiculous like probably the best in the NFL
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32:12 for you now let's talk a little bit again about the defense here you know as a whole
32:20 you know how do you feel about what you've seen out of these guys and again you're talking
32:25 about two really explosive offenses that they've been able to and two explosive offenses with
32:31 a pair of really explosive receivers that they've been able to keep in check obviously
32:36 they got shredded a little bit by most right here and you know he had that long touchdown
32:41 run which was a bit of a dagger but overall your performance their performance tonight
32:46 yeah I mean the defense gave some stuff up but at the same time it's like if you have
32:50 the Dolphins offense with that Patriots defense and like you're feeling pretty good because
32:54 you don't expect it to be perfect they've just been at the position where they kind
32:57 of had to be perfect the first half you saw they struggle with like the short little wheel
33:01 motions that the Dolphins like so much it wouldn't tell me what because I noticed that
33:06 it wasn't an issue in the second half they did something to fix that and for the most
33:11 part I thought I thought they got lucky at times like to sometimes like under throwing
33:15 things worked for them a few times one was the Gonzalez interception where I thought
33:22 that Judon's pressure was the reason it happened but looking back like Judon didn't even touch
33:26 him at that point he just threw up a freaking sky ball yeah yeah I don't know what that
33:31 was and it was honestly there were points where I was like all right if this is like
33:35 a top 10 quarterback that scares me a lot more where I don't think they make the same
33:39 mistakes but at the same time like your defense is gonna struggle against an offense it's
33:43 this talented that's this well coached that's the entire point of having great players a
33:47 great scheme and a quarterback who just doesn't make a lot of mistakes and I also thought
33:51 it was huge that they stood up as much as they did like they got walked on in the first
33:55 half for the most part the only three and out they got in the first half was lucky because
33:58 two would just had two really bad throws the second half thought they applied more pressure
34:04 I thought their coverage was a bit tighter the run defense I asked teachers wise about
34:07 that because he mentioned that they wanted to set their edges because pursuit and tackling
34:10 those were the big things where there's certain things Miami does where you can't really stop
34:15 it like if they do a run fake and want to throw it over your head they're gonna do it
34:19 because there's only so many things you can defend but the tackling and the pursuit angles
34:24 like those were two things where I was like all right this the defense has to be better
34:27 they shored that up in the second half and I really thought it was good oh yeah I'm sorry
34:31 going back I asked you twice because he said they wanted to set hard edges to contain the
34:35 run and I was like oh well is that why the inside run yeah the inside zone I was like
34:41 was there maybe trying to overemphasize one thing and concede another and I first I thought
34:45 he was mad at me because like he's a really nice guy for a second his face was just like
34:51 but you gave a great answer he said no that was honestly just a lucky play where one bad
34:56 thing happened what I thought it was was equality got pushed out of his gap he usually pretty
35:00 solid in that role for his size but he got pushed out to one Bentley had to engage alignment
35:05 and then most of us at the second level I know but Duggar stuck on way up to if you
35:13 look at the replay Duggar came charging and if he stays or he takes a better angle he's
35:18 gonna force most to the sideline or possibly get a piece of him and he came up and he was
35:24 the only one in the secondary with enough speed to potentially chase him down and he
35:27 took himself out of the play and it was over and that's what happened last year week one
35:32 against the Dolphins where he took a bad angle against Jaden Waddle Jalen Waddle and a fourth
35:36 and seven well what had just been a big play it turned into a 40 yard touchdown yeah and
35:41 I will be fair Kyle Duggar also had a lot of really good plays in pursuit he did I don't
35:45 want to be just like old poopoo Kyle Duggar or anything like that but you know that touchdown
35:49 was pretty bad and if it weren't for the missed field goal if they had made that field goal
35:54 it would have been a two possession game so that's you know it wouldn't have been quite
35:58 as close but for the most part I liked what the defense did again this is such a tough
36:03 offense I for the most part I'm gonna go into most matchups saying the Patriots are fine
36:07 because I think they have a really talented team the Dolphins just are so rare in terms
36:11 of their athleticism and their playmaking ability I thought they did pretty well things
36:15 considered especially without John Jones or and Marcus Jones leaving really early with
36:19 a shoulder injury another thing to monitor their cornerback room is in a very scary place
36:25 right now because they're depleted yeah hopefully the John Jones thing is not long-term and
36:35 you've got two more games without Jack Marcus Jones would not surprise me if you miss if
36:40 you don't see him for a little bit because we don't know but he got ruled out pretty
36:46 quick and he seemed to be in a good bit of pain there so we'll see what that situation
36:49 is but you're basically looking at Gonzalez and Shawn Wade right now and Miles Bryant
36:54 so it is thin it's a thin room you know you might be able to survive next week because
37:00 Zach Wilson so you know but you got to get you got to get healthy quick that's an area
37:06 you can't really you know be missing guys for too long so but again defense arrow continues
37:12 to point up and I think ultimately defense gonna have to keep them in games because I
37:16 just don't think the offense is gonna be capable of scoring points in bunches here this is
37:20 a Dolphins team that gave up 230 yards on the ground last week to the Chargers and you
37:25 ran for three yards a clip against them here so that's not really great they're not really
37:30 able to get anything downfield going at all and I think that that's what's going to continue
37:35 to be the story until you see the offense find another level or just or be crazy super
37:41 efficient at the other stuff that they're doing you know and their timing is really
37:44 good and they're able to work those kind of intermediate spaces a little bit more and
37:49 do that and honestly like one of the things is gonna free them up a little bit is if they
37:54 can loosen things up a little bit by getting the run game going because right now they're
37:58 really really they can't they can't get downfield and they can't run both of those things you
38:05 can't survive not being able to do either of those things well yeah I was saying going
38:12 into this game that I thought that if they had a decent run game things would be okay
38:16 because then you do not as one dimension because especially with Jalen Phillips he wasn't in
38:21 the game but all they can do is your one dimension over there screw yeah yeah and like the tight
38:25 ends the reason they were effective is because it was just underneath underneath and I think
38:29 at one point going into the fourth they were oh and six with an interception on downfield
38:33 throws downfield is 10 or more yards that's not even 20 it's not even asking them to be
38:37 an adult I know intermediate at least the Patriots usually kill it in intermediate throws
38:42 and they couldn't do that so I gotta watch the tape and see what exactly was going on
38:46 but you're looking at the Jets and then the Cowboys defenses oh my god you know Taylor
38:54 I don't I don't think that's when the problem is gonna get solved I think they need to just
38:57 learn to be hyper efficient and then attack downfield against the bad defenses because
39:01 I just they have shown it they just can't be the kind of team that I think over the
39:07 middle they could do better I will say that I think in terms of threatening the intermediate
39:11 middle of the field they should be more effective and against most people Devontae Parker even
39:16 like maybe not Gilmore maybe even Trayvon Diggs but like most people I think Devontae
39:21 Parker outside is a massive benefit and there's the rare team that has a cornerback who's
39:26 so good you're like yeah I'm not throwing that it's just not worth the juice ain't worth
39:30 the squeeze and then you find something somewhere else but yeah I think you're seeing how running
39:36 up against good defenses can make it so that this team really has to be perfect and the
39:43 defense gives them so many opportunities where they don't actually have to be perfect they
39:46 just need to do their job late and they just for different reasons weren't able to finish
39:52 that because again their margin for error is very slim right now yeah yeah well that's
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