LIVE_ Patriots vs Jets Week 3 Postgame Show

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00:00 and that means what Taylor?

00:04 - It means that we're here.

00:08 - It means we're here.

00:10 A long day as you can tell.

00:11 Taylor's in the Meadowlands right now at MetLife Stadium.

00:15 People are packing up around him

00:16 so you may see some activity there

00:17 as people are trying to literally sweep him

00:20 out of the press box area.

00:22 But the Patriots win, ugly.

00:25 But a win is a win is a win.

00:29 So we'll talk about that

00:30 and we'll get into the offensive performance,

00:33 which again, I still think three games in

00:36 is a real big question mark.

00:38 Defense again, looks solid.

00:41 This wasn't just Zach Wilson is bad.

00:43 This was also, had something to do

00:45 with the Patriots defense.

00:47 And just kind of get your take, Taylor,

00:48 on what do you think actually happened here

00:52 on the field here where the Patriots again

00:54 win 15 to 10 over the Jets without Aaron Rodgers,

00:59 with a Zach Wilson led team.

01:02 And Zach Wilson is just an automatic W for the Patriots.

01:06 And you know that's gonna happen.

01:07 I wouldn't say they sweated it out,

01:10 but they didn't really put it away.

01:11 So let's just start on the offense, okay?

01:14 Jets have a good defense, we know it.

01:17 But still,

01:26 obviously just a real inability

01:28 to get anything going down the field.

01:30 It stays there.

01:31 Obviously the Jets can cover.

01:33 Jets have a good front.

01:34 I was impressed that the Patriots were able to run the ball.

01:36 I mean, let's just say their commitment to the run.

01:39 It wasn't incredible, but they ran the ball 40 times.

01:43 They really went for it.

01:44 But the passing offense again, just kind of sputtering.

01:46 And again, 15 points.

01:48 Belbelichick said it himself in the post game, Taylor.

01:50 15 points isn't gonna get it done most weeks.

01:55 I'm glad he acknowledged it,

01:56 'cause I kind of felt like a jerk going downstairs.

01:59 Like at first we heard from David Andrews,

02:00 who fairly credited the offensive line.

02:03 They didn't allow a sack.

02:05 They ran for 150 yards.

02:06 Like they answered two big question marks.

02:08 We were saying, okay, they can't pass protect,

02:10 and they can't run the ball, they can't find balance.

02:13 And they did those two things,

02:14 and they're I think the only things

02:15 that really kept them in the game.

02:16 Yeah.

02:17 And that was clearly something they wanted to do,

02:19 'cause they kept coming out in two and three tight end sets,

02:21 sometimes using Pharaoh Brown,

02:23 but pretty often using Pharaoh Brown as a fullback

02:25 to kind of diversify what they were able to do.

02:28 And we saw that really be the lifeblood of the offense.

02:31 But the offensive line was really the only,

02:35 yes, that's awesome.

02:37 We found some continuity, let's go.

02:39 But other than that, man,

02:40 I thought that the downfield passing game,

02:42 I tweeted that I wasn't sure what went wrong exactly,

02:45 because this is the second of three games

02:48 where they played in really bad weather.

02:49 So you can't discount the fact that it is harder

02:51 to throw downfield in those conditions.

02:53 There were also times where it just seemed

02:54 like the chemistry was so off,

02:56 I didn't know who was at fault.

02:57 But at the same time,

02:59 Matt Jones was throwing a few uncatchable passes.

03:01 There were two to DeMario Douglas

03:03 that I think should have been penalties.

03:04 Like the refs were really keeping flags in their pockets

03:06 for some reason on a few plays.

03:08 But it really killed them,

03:10 especially when they were third down in manageable situations

03:13 where they could have gone to the sticks

03:14 or just shy of the sticks, maybe gotten something.

03:17 And then instead you see them take a shot

03:18 that's not even close.

03:19 Like that kept killing them on third downs.

03:21 You had some big conversions,

03:23 and then you also had penalties.

03:24 Like there was a one drive,

03:25 you had three penalties on a three play drive.

03:28 You had the one for too many men on the field

03:30 where they got bailed out with a really impressive

03:32 albeit completion of Devante Parker along the sideline.

03:35 And then Cole Strange had a holding earlier in the game

03:38 that ended up contributing to them having to punt.

03:41 So they didn't turn the ball over.

03:43 That was huge.

03:44 And I think that's a big reason they won the game.

03:46 'Cause I'm sure if one of those drives

03:48 ended in a penalty and gave New York some momentum

03:50 for a better field position,

03:51 this game might've gone a bit differently.

03:53 So there were big, big, good things to take away.

03:56 Again, turnovers, offensive line play,

03:58 but the downfield passing game being non-existent

04:00 was really scary.

04:02 And we'll see if it is a product of the elements,

04:06 if it really is just the execution.

04:08 'Cause next week they play in a dome,

04:09 so there's not gonna be any excuses.

04:11 - Yeah, I mean, look,

04:15 I don't know how long we're gonna keep

04:18 treating this with kid gloves.

04:21 They don't have dynamic receivers that can get separation

04:25 and get open downfield.

04:27 It's going to be a problem all year.

04:28 - DeMario.

04:29 - I mean, DeMario, fine.

04:30 But again, they're so in love with DeMario

04:33 that after benching him last week,

04:35 he played 18 snaps this week.

04:37 So again, not really in their game plan.

04:39 Obviously running the ball was in their game plan today.

04:41 I think the snap count, amazingly,

04:44 Juju Smith-Schuster leads them in snaps

04:47 with 54, Parker 52, Parker born 38, Douglas 19.

04:52 When Douglas was out there, they threw.

04:54 He ran 13 routes and 19 snaps.

04:56 Juju ran only 20 routes in his 54 snaps.

05:00 So he was out there a lot when they were running the ball.

05:03 But there's just not much going on.

05:07 And again, we don't know what you're gonna get

05:09 out of Taequann Thornton

05:10 when he comes back off the pup there,

05:11 but certainly someone who can at least

05:14 threaten the defense with his speed.

05:15 I think, you know, maybe that changes things a little bit,

05:19 but you've got Parker, a 50/50 guy,

05:21 born who had a couple of nice plays.

05:23 One time he was able to shake sauce and get a first down

05:26 and make some plays.

05:27 And he can do that from time to time.

05:29 Juju Smith-Schuster is a net negative at this point,

05:32 just in terms of the passing offense, what he's doing.

05:34 He's not doing anything.

05:35 So, right.

05:36 And you've got tight ends who are not.

05:38 I mean, again, you've got a Farrow Brown,

05:40 58 yard touchdown and Hunter Henry,

05:42 who's your kind of security blanket.

05:44 Neither one of these guys is striking fear

05:47 into opponent's hearts.

05:48 So Patriots don't have anyone you have to game plan for

05:50 at this point.

05:51 So they have to be smart.

05:52 They have to have good design.

05:54 They have to have good execution.

05:55 You got to rely on max timing and his accuracy

05:58 in order to be able to get things out.

06:00 But again, it's always kind of,

06:02 this is, I think what we're gonna have to deal with

06:04 with this offense, which is again, why the running game,

06:06 I think Taylor was so important today,

06:08 is if you're gonna dink and dunk your way down the field,

06:11 you gotta be able to run the ball a little bit.

06:14 Yeah.

06:15 In order to soften the defense up some,

06:17 so you might hit a play or two down the field.

06:19 But again, really nothing going down field,

06:22 you know, at this point, just looking at Mac,

06:25 how do you think Mac did?

06:27 You mentioned he threw a couple away, you know,

06:30 and I don't know if it's just simply,

06:32 there was just guys who were just too covered

06:34 or there's just certain times

06:35 he could have thrown a better ball.

06:37 Yeah, the downfield stuff, I gotta say for the,

06:40 you know, film breakdown, so I can see definitively

06:42 what he was seeing with the whole field.

06:44 But at the same time, I thought that,

06:46 like I've been saying that Mac,

06:47 especially in situational football, has been pretty good.

06:49 He's had like three moments where he's hesitated

06:51 in pretty big moments, and I think it cost them a bit,

06:54 but I think he's been a net positive.

06:56 This was the first game where I can't really say

06:58 that like Mac Jones is the reason that he played well.

07:00 It was the offensive line, it was the run game

07:02 and the threat of the run game

07:03 take a lot of pressure off him.

07:05 I would probably give him like a C- today.

07:08 Like he made some throws he needed to make.

07:10 There were a couple of throws that were pretty scary.

07:12 There was the one screen, third and 15.

07:14 They've gotta stop with the third and like extra long screens

07:18 'cause defenses keep snipping them out.

07:19 And this is the second time this season

07:21 that he's almost been intercepted on one of those.

07:23 Maybe if you look at it again,

07:24 I know Quentin Williams got a hand on it.

07:26 I'm not sure how interceptable it was,

07:28 but it was a scary play.

07:29 And then there was the one to Hunter Henry

07:31 where I will say it was really a good defensive play

07:33 'cause I think they, I knew what was coming

07:34 when I saw the formation when Hunter Henry split out

07:37 into a stack, but that was another one

07:38 where it seemed like a really close call.

07:41 So yeah, I thought he made the throws

07:42 that he needed to make and that were there.

07:46 But I thought some of the other ones

07:47 that could have put the offense in position to do better

07:50 and move the chains, I thought he missed on.

07:52 So I would say like a generous C-

07:54 just based on the initial watch.

07:55 - Wow.

07:56 And Taylor will dig deeper into the film

07:58 and give a more honest look.

08:01 But yeah, it felt like this wasn't a great,

08:04 a great Mac game really.

08:07 And again, it's just, you know, I don't know what to feel.

08:11 Like you've got, you stack up these three games, Taylor.

08:15 You got the moral victory against Philly

08:17 where that was better than anybody expected

08:19 and you were competitive against a team

08:21 that's considered, you know, a top four team

08:23 in the entire NFL and a legit Superbowl contender.

08:26 And then you- - And dolphins.

08:29 - And then the dolphins who, what's funny is

08:32 you're pretty disappointed about what happened

08:34 against Miami last week.

08:35 Then you see what they did today and you're like, okay,

08:38 you know, we did all right here, I think.

08:42 But the common denominator through all of this

08:44 is the offense's inability to put points on the board,

08:47 which means your defense is gonna have to be near perfect

08:50 and you can't turn the ball over ever.

08:52 The margin of error this team is playing with

08:54 because they just don't have the offensive personnel

08:58 to do what they need to do is a challenge.

09:01 Like that's going, I don't know when it gets better

09:04 or if it gets better.

09:05 - It's still so early, man.

09:09 And- - It is.

09:11 I'm throwing it out to you.

09:13 - But there is reason for concern.

09:15 I think that's fair.

09:16 - I'm not doing like a victory lap at all over it.

09:21 I think a lot of people felt the way I felt coming in.

09:24 I'm telling you, can you find a way,

09:26 is there anything you see that gives you some hope

09:29 or some thought, you know,

09:31 they can still figure some things out

09:32 and be a little bit more, you know, if not explosive,

09:36 just be a little bit more dangerous than they are right now

09:39 because they really don't look like a difficult team

09:41 to defend.

09:42 - I think the offensive line and the ground game,

09:44 like that's the thing, it stinks

09:45 because like Mac Jones didn't play well,

09:47 but they won this game when Mac and the passing offense

09:51 didn't play particularly well on the strength of their line

09:53 and the run game.

09:54 Like, I think that's huge.

09:55 Like you said, that's gotta be the difference maker

09:57 where if you're gonna have an offense

09:58 that dinks and dunks down the field,

10:00 you gotta be able to do it in a different way

10:02 and be able to have them respect you running the ball.

10:04 I think that's a massive step in the right direction

10:07 because that was something that scared me.

10:08 It's like, if you have bad offensive line play,

10:10 nothing else matters

10:11 'cause you're not gonna have time,

10:12 even if guys are getting open

10:13 and you can't just keep throwing things quick

10:15 because then defenses are smart

10:17 and they'll be able to figure you out.

10:18 So, and beyond that,

10:19 I do think there's a lot more potential

10:21 with DeMario Douglas than we've seen.

10:24 I think even like Kendrick Bourne,

10:25 we've seen him getting open downfield.

10:27 It's not like he's blanketed every time.

10:29 Like, he's got some good reps.

10:31 It's just the connection hasn't been there.

10:33 And again, it's been two bad weather games.

10:35 So you say, all right,

10:36 like I wanna give them some benefit of the doubt,

10:38 but that's why, like this week,

10:40 I've been saying was big for the offensive line.

10:42 Like you have, you've got Trent Brown back.

10:44 It was the healthiest they'd been in a long time.

10:45 You had to prove that.

10:46 Now next week, it's okay.

10:48 No excuses.

10:49 You're in a dome.

10:50 You've got a healthy offensive line.

10:51 You've seen plenty of reps of what you did poorly

10:54 trying to go downfield in this game specifically.

10:57 Before I thought it was more execution,

10:58 like receivers weren't catching passes

11:00 that they should have caught.

11:01 This was one where it's just like,

11:02 everything's out of whack.

11:04 Next week, if you could put something together,

11:06 then, you know, it's a step in the right direction.

11:08 But I agree that it's not looking good right now.

11:10 - You know what it's starting to feel like

11:12 based on what they're doing and what I'm seeing now

11:14 with just, you know, and again, it wasn't,

11:17 but just the three tight end sets, you know,

11:20 a lot of two tight end and the way they're doing

11:23 running the ball 40 times today.

11:24 This feels like, this feels like the Cam Newton season

11:28 where we're not gonna do anything real on offense,

11:31 but let's just keep it.

11:33 Let's keep a ball control offense.

11:35 Let's be smart.

11:36 Let's see if we can bully a little bit.

11:38 Let's see if we can pound the ball

11:39 and just make smart plays and just keep it together

11:43 and then hope that our defense will keep us in games.

11:45 But I feel like the white flag has already been waved

11:48 on this offense in terms of what they think

11:50 it can do, 'cause what's gonna happen is the kids,

11:53 people at home are gonna start clamoring for the kids.

11:56 What bugs me a little bit here is the thing

11:57 that you just said, Taylor, is yeah, maybe there's hope.

12:01 And that hope is in the, here's why there's hope.

12:04 And it's Demario Douglas, Taekwon Thornton,

12:07 maybe Kayshan Butte, not because they're necessarily better

12:11 than the guys you have running out here,

12:12 but you're pretty certain you know what those guys have.

12:15 So if there's going to be anything to open up this game,

12:18 it's gonna be the more athletic, more explosive,

12:20 younger playmakers that you have to give opportunities to.

12:24 But I don't think Bill does that.

12:26 I think Bill likes to play it safe with his veterans.

12:29 We've seen that time and again,

12:31 so I don't know that you're gonna get those guys.

12:33 The fact that Douglas, fine, he got benched last week

12:37 when he was mixing in early

12:39 and it looked like he might have a role.

12:40 I thought for sure they were gonna come back

12:42 and fold him into some more plays.

12:44 He was barely on the field at all here

12:46 and they clearly had decided what they were gonna do

12:48 and it didn't really involve him in this game.

12:50 And I get it against Zach Wilson.

12:51 - That was a game plan.

12:52 - I get it here.

12:53 - That was a game plan.

12:54 - All you're trying to do is not lose it on offense

12:57 against the Zach Wilson-led Jets team.

12:59 So it's a different game plan.

13:00 Maybe they'll view it a little differently

13:02 next week against the Cowboys, I'm not sure.

13:04 - Yeah, I think, I just don't think

13:07 that if they keep sputtering like this

13:08 and there's nothing happening,

13:09 like at the same time, like relying on young players

13:13 isn't always great because they have to prove it in practice

13:15 like if DeMarco Douglas is having good days in practice

13:18 and he's producing, then they'll put him on the field more.

13:20 And I think they still want to.

13:22 This was clearly just a very run heavy game plan.

13:24 There were times there was only one,

13:25 maybe two receivers on the field.

13:27 So I think that's a big reason

13:28 why you didn't see as much DeMario.

13:30 But one thing I will say is Juju

13:32 has been a significant disappointment.

13:34 And I think it is the knee because looking like

13:36 he had a thousand yards last year.

13:38 You could say it's Patrick Holmes.

13:39 I don't care who's throwing me the ball.

13:41 He had a thousand yards last season.

13:43 Before camp, I was expecting, okay,

13:45 he's going to be a yak guy.

13:46 He's going to be a chain mover.

13:47 If they flex him out,

13:48 he's shown that he can win some one-on-one matchups

13:50 with the back shoulder fades like you see from Hopkins.

13:53 In camp, I lowered those expectations

13:55 because it was like, all right,

13:56 he's not catching a lot of passes.

13:57 And when he does, it's usually over the middle

13:59 of short stuff, like, all right,

14:01 manage expectations for Juju.

14:02 I get it.

14:03 At least he'll be a consistent,

14:04 reliable chain moving kind of guy.

14:07 But what we're seeing now is like,

14:08 he doesn't really contribute consistently

14:10 in any facet of the game.

14:11 And that's where maybe I was wrong,

14:13 but also he doesn't look like the same player

14:15 that we saw last season.

14:16 I think that's been huge where Kendrick Bourne,

14:18 you were hoping, took a step forward.

14:20 Devontae Parker, you're hoping, becomes a big play threat.

14:22 And I was surprised he didn't get

14:23 more opportunities downfield.

14:25 That was kind of weird to me,

14:26 considering Mack was doing that for a lot of people.

14:29 He had the one, and I'm not sure if he stopped running.

14:30 I heard people saying that, or if it was just a bad ball.

14:33 But yeah, I think it's like,

14:35 your veterans are disappointing.

14:37 Devontae Parker was their best deep play threat,

14:39 and he hasn't done any of that.

14:40 Kendrick Bourne has flashed so many times

14:42 that he can make crazy plays downfield.

14:45 He hasn't done that consistently,

14:47 or in the past couple of weeks, really.

14:49 And then again, Juju is not really doing much of anything,

14:52 and even getting called for a bad penalty on a block

14:55 that helped contribute to a sputtering drive early on.

14:58 So, yeah, we have to rely on the young guys,

15:00 but the veterans need to step up

15:02 and do what they've been expected to do.

15:03 That's why I was confident that this would be

15:06 at least a top 12 offense that didn't make mistakes.

15:09 But fewer mistakes today, but the execution wasn't good.

15:12 - Let me ask you this.

15:13 Where would you, on a scale of one to 10,

15:15 where was your optimism level after the Eagles game,

15:18 after the Dolphins game, and after this game?

15:20 Is this the lowest you've felt about this team?

15:23 - For sure, for sure.

15:23 I would say, I mean, it's mixed.

15:25 - And it's weird, right?

15:27 The win?

15:28 - Yeah, it's weird.

15:29 - Someone in the chat called this a moral loss.

15:31 You know, you got your moral victory.

15:33 It's the opposite.

15:34 It's the, it's the, and again,

15:37 I see somebody else saying in the chat,

15:38 like, guys, they moved the ball enough to win.

15:40 That's all you need to do against the team.

15:42 Sure, but you gave the Jets the ball back three times

15:45 with a chance to win the game, you know,

15:47 in the fourth quarter.

15:48 That's not great.

15:49 Like, you're just, you couldn't even get first downs

15:52 to ice the game, let alone put the points on

15:54 to create separation.

15:55 So, uh-oh.

15:57 - Okay, I'll be honest with you, thank you.

16:00 - We have to wrap it up soon.

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18:05 Again, it's almost like how much can you learn

18:07 about the offense like in the preseason

18:09 when the O-line was gone and blah, blah, blah

18:11 and this and that.

18:12 How much can you know about the defense

18:14 when you're facing Zach Wilson and the Jets?

18:16 - Yeah, I'm gonna be quick so I don't get in trouble.

18:18 I think the defense-- - You're not getting in trouble.

18:21 - I think the defense did what they set out to do.

18:22 Like they came out in an actual base personnel grouping

18:26 where they had three down linemen

18:27 and four actual linebackers.

18:28 Usually it's Marte Mapu who's that fourth,

18:30 but we all know he's a safety that they call a linebacker

18:33 'cause you don't put linebackers

18:34 in the deep middle of the field.

18:36 But this week we saw Heon White and Anthony Jennings

18:39 who hadn't been active all season

18:40 and we saw Jelani Tsevai and Jawan Bentley in the middle.

18:45 They clearly wanted to stop the run.

18:47 Dalvin Cook and Breece Hall both had 18 rushing yards,

18:50 which is pretty insane,

18:52 even considering they're one dimensional

18:54 on offense for the Jets.

18:55 Zach Wilson was sacked three times.

18:57 They had gave up the one long touchdown run.

19:00 They put a cap on the offense the entire rest of the game.

19:03 So I think Gonzalez,

19:04 his work that we saw against Garrett Wilson

19:06 was locking him down.

19:07 I think the biggest takeaway is that,

19:09 is that the one good offensive player they had

19:12 who was not behind the offensive line,

19:14 which the Jets offensive line struggled today

19:16 against the Patriots front, which was expected.

19:18 I thought Christian Gonzalez did really well

19:20 against last year's offensive rookie of the year.

19:22 - I believe Romo at one point already anointed Gonzalez

19:25 as one of the best quarters in the NFL right now.

19:29 Are we a little premature on that?

19:31 - They did it with Slaus.

19:32 They did it with Patrick Zertan.

19:34 Like, yeah, if you are good

19:36 and you're not giving up big plays for the first few weeks,

19:38 then like, yeah, they're gonna say that every year.

19:40 - Okay.

19:41 - But it's also true.

19:41 I don't think it's,

19:42 'cause he's had some pretty insane tests

19:44 the first three weeks

19:45 and he's come out with flying colors for the most part.

19:47 So I do think it's pretty fair that he's getting praise,

19:52 but like, you know,

19:53 let's maybe wait a little bit longer before we go that far.

19:56 But you know, he has played fantastic football.

19:58 - And they needed it

19:59 'cause you're down every single Jones today.

20:01 And that was, you know,

20:03 that's something that, you know,

20:04 you definitely had some problems in the secondary.

20:06 I wanna quickly ask about Zeke.

20:08 I know they ran the ball hard here.

20:09 Were you surprised seeing the split

20:12 that you got out of this game with Raimondi?

20:16 Again, Raimondi is out there a lot more.

20:18 He was out there.

20:19 He's more of the passing down guy.

20:20 He still was out there nearly two to one in terms of snaps,

20:24 but in terms of carries, 1960,

20:26 and they brought in Zeke to pound the rock

20:28 specifically here in this game.

20:30 - Yeah, and I thought that, you know,

20:32 Madre again, like he has a big workload.

20:33 I think that played a big part of it,

20:35 but I thought it was good to see, you know,

20:36 people have been asking,

20:37 "Is Zeke, does he have his legs?

20:38 Is he still, you know?"

20:39 He's not the same player, obviously,

20:41 but he's showed that he could still be very effective.

20:43 He's been pretty good on toss plays consistently

20:45 this season.

20:46 And we also saw that he can get the tough yards inside

20:49 and the offensive line did a great job getting pushed.

20:50 So yeah, I thought this was kind of performance

20:52 you wanted to see from him

20:53 if they were gonna go ground heavy.

20:55 The Patriots were fighting for every single yard they got,

20:57 and he managed five yards a pop,

20:58 which I thought was impressive

20:59 'cause Madre got 3.9,

21:01 and he clawed and scratched for every single one of those.

21:05 - Yeah, there wasn't a lot of room there, you know,

21:08 and there wasn't great,

21:09 but Zeke ran with a little more burst.

21:10 A lot of people thought he looked slower

21:13 past the first couple of weeks,

21:15 and he definitely had a little bit more,

21:17 little more pep in his step today.

21:19 And he's got the Zeke revenge game next week

21:21 against the Cowboys.

21:22 We'll preview that quick in one second,

21:24 but I did wanna talk about something that happened

21:26 outside of MetLife here,

21:29 and that's the freaking Dolphins

21:31 putting up 70 freaking points on the freaking Broncos,

21:34 and Sean Payton, I don't know

21:37 what he's gotten himself into here.

21:39 NFL record, 726 yards of offense.

21:43 You had running backs go for 350 yards

21:47 in eight touchdowns between the two running backs there.

21:52 This was incredible,

21:55 and all of a sudden, the Patriots, you know,

21:59 allowing the Dolphins to, you know,

22:00 have a couple successful drives to start the game last week

22:03 and then play them pretty well the rest of the time

22:05 actually looks pretty good now.

22:07 - Yeah, man, that's ridiculous.

22:09 These are like, I've never put up those numbers in that

22:12 at any point in my life.

22:13 Those are insane.

22:14 Yeah, I think this Patriots defense is better than we thought

22:16 It seemed kind of silly

22:17 that they used that three safety defense,

22:19 and obviously they got out of it

22:20 after just like a series or two,

22:22 but they forced the Dolphins to throw underneath.

22:25 They tackled, and they didn't allow them

22:26 to get the big chunk plays,

22:27 and the run defense obviously did struggle.

22:30 There were some objectively bad refs

22:31 that you want to see them clean up,

22:32 and they're better than those,

22:34 but at the same time, this was a great offense

22:36 that they held to a pretty modest day for any good offense,

22:40 much less one that obviously

22:41 is putting up ridiculous numbers like that.

22:43 So it just makes you feel better about the Pat's defense,

22:45 and maybe a little more scared of the Dolphins

22:47 'cause they did that without Jalen Waddell.

22:50 - They did.

22:50 How many quarters would it take the Patriots

22:52 to put up 70 points against anybody?

22:54 - How many quarters are in a season?

22:55 (laughing)

22:58 How many points did the Patriots have this year?

23:02 - That many.

23:03 - Not 70.

23:04 Not 70, I'll tell you that.

23:07 What did they have?

23:07 They had how many coming in?

23:09 52 coming in plus 15.

23:12 Ooh, nope, they have 52 total.

23:15 Sorry, they're at 52 right now.

23:16 - I feel so bad for Garrett Bowles.

23:18 His post-game press conference was just heartbreaking.

23:22 - Yeah.

23:23 - Yeah.

23:24 - I'm just saying, all I've done here is lose.

23:27 He's a tackle.

23:28 It's not like he's a wide receiver or a diva.

23:31 That's a dude who's getting his ass kicked

23:32 every single day, and man, you gotta feel for the guy.

23:37 - Very quickly here, Taylor.

23:38 Dallas Cowboys next week, they lost, okay?

23:43 - Yeah, cards.

23:44 - Lost to the Cardinals.

23:48 Nobody saw that coming.

23:49 - That was pretty insane.

23:51 - Yeah, I don't know if Brandon Cooks played or not.

23:55 I've been seeing the stats.

23:56 I know that he was out last week,

23:58 which definitely impacted their ability

23:59 to put points on the board and move the ball.

24:02 Obviously, they did pretty well against the Jets.

24:04 But the passing game wasn't as good as you would expect

24:06 for my Cowboys passing attack.

24:08 Let me see the stats right now.

24:09 Wow, Brandon Cooks, two reception, 17 yards.

24:13 Damn.

24:14 I'll have to watch the tape and see what they did

24:17 'cause that's pretty wild.

24:18 It also makes you optimistic for the Patriots.

24:19 - That did not look great at all,

24:20 but their D-backs played really well.

24:24 - Well, Patriots have good DBs,

24:26 so hopefully this week, letting Jon Jones rest up

24:29 will pay off next week.

24:30 - Well, I think once again is you're gonna have,

24:33 you're facing another tough defense, obviously,

24:35 but things have changed now

24:37 with Diggs obviously out of the game.

24:39 I think the Patriots will do their best

24:40 to scheme up guys like Parsons.

24:42 There's other playmakers they have there,

24:44 but this game looks a little less daunting

24:48 based on everything we've seen outside

24:50 of what the Patriots are doing.

24:52 You saw what the Dolphins did

24:53 and you feel better about the Patriots'

24:54 defensive effort against them,

24:56 and you've seen Dallas really lay an egg here offensively

24:59 in their defense come down to earth some.

25:01 So this game I think was penciled in as an automatic L

25:05 and potentially an embarrassing one,

25:07 the way that the Cowboys are playing,

25:09 I think maybe less so this week.

25:11 Then again, they could be mad as hell

25:12 and things could get really ugly, but I don't know.

25:15 - And Patriots offense should be mad as hell after today.

25:17 So hopefully they match each other's energies.

25:19 - Yep, yep.

25:20 So Taylor, any closing thoughts here before you get tossed?

25:23 - Defense, have faith in the Patriots' defense.

25:27 Be excited that the offensive line looks better

25:29 and that the running back's got things going.

25:31 And be skeptical of the passing offense

25:33 'cause they have not given any reason to feel otherwise.

25:36 - Yeah, all right.

25:36 Last thing we wanna tell you,

25:38 and again, this is the correct thing here,

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26:13 Once again, Patriots defeat the Jets

26:16 in kind of a slop fest 1510.

26:18 Taylor's gonna dig deep into the film,

26:20 check things out and see what he likes here.

26:24 I felt like there was something else we wanted to touch on.

26:26 Is there anything left over?

26:27 - I don't know.

26:28 If so, I'll tweet it.

26:29 I'll make a video or something.

26:31 I'm genuinely afraid of that man coming back

26:33 and getting himself- - I'm watching.

26:34 I've got your back.

26:35 I'm literally watching your back.

26:37 And yes, I would agree with some of the comments here.

26:39 The Patriots don't have the speed that the Cardinals have,

26:41 and that's what got Dallas today,

26:44 with a couple of big plays there for sure.

26:47 And that was, you know, they really caught him off guard.

26:52 They really caught him off guard.

26:54 There's some warring here in the,

26:56 it's an automatic L5 and 12 season.

26:59 Some people are down.

27:00 I think people are more down than up on this one.

27:02 He's gone.

27:03 Doug Taylor, we gotta go.

27:04 He's out of here.

27:05 - I'm so sorry.

27:06 - I'm wrapping it up. - Yeah, okay.

27:07 Seriously, I'm gone.

27:07 Bye.

27:08 I love you all.

27:09 Thank you for tuning in.

27:10 - Taylor, Taylor, don't get arrested.

27:12 Guys, thank you for watching.

27:14 Check it out on our YouTube channel.

27:16 - I'm wrapping up right now. - Taylor's gonna go watch.

27:17 Look, look, he's gone.

27:18 He's already gone.

27:19 Bye, Taylor.

27:20 Sorry, I didn't want Taylor to get any trouble there.

27:23 Taylor at the Meadowlands, holding down the fort,

27:27 and that is a problem sometimes when you're on the road.

27:29 Those guys can get a little feisty

27:30 and they wanna toss you, and it's New York,

27:32 so they don't have much tolerance there.

27:34 I have been locked in a stadium once before.

27:37 That wasn't fun either.

27:39 Sometimes you can hang out really, really, really late,

27:42 but the television crew is doing all of your tapings

27:44 and all of your live stuff,

27:45 and yes, I have been locked inside a stadium.

27:48 So at least Taylor was, that guy was nice enough

27:51 to let him know that the time has come.

27:53 So again, thank you guys for watching.

27:55 Sorry it was so quick, but again, as we said,

27:58 Taylor was being run out of there.

28:03 More stuff coming tomorrow.

28:04 You're gonna get more podcasts,

28:05 Patriots Daily, Patriots Beat.

28:07 Taylor's gonna break down some film as well,

28:09 so make sure you subscribe to our YouTube channel,

28:11 Patriots Press Pass. Thank you guys for hanging out. We do appreciate it. We'll see you guys.

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