Georgia Jones interview / Podcast

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4 months ago

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00:00:00I don't know why I did it like that, but maybe because I'm so excited to have Georgia Jones

00:00:29in the studio. Hi, Georgia. Hi, Holly. How are you? I'm very well, thank you. I would like you

00:00:36to know that I've had so many people request to have you on the podcast like for a long time,

00:00:41so I'm very glad you're here. Hell yeah. Yeah, people really want to talk to you.

00:00:45You need to put your mouth on that. Something I knew how to do. Watch.

00:00:52Yeah, and actually, I do a fan question portion exclusively for members of my Patreon,

00:00:58and I always ask people, I'm like, hey, send me your fan questions, and sometimes people don't

00:01:02send me any, and I got more fan questions for you than any other guest I've ever had. I was like,

00:01:08fuck, dude, this is a lot of questions. Fuck yeah. Do you really want to know all this about her?

00:01:14Probably not. So we might do some of them during this podcast, but most of them we will do

00:01:21in my second little additional exclusive podcast video on my Patreon.com slash Holly Randall

00:01:29unfiltered because you know this shit ain't free, people. The parking, especially here,

00:01:34is very expensive. Exactly. So how are you? I'm good. I'm really good. Tell me,

00:01:40how long have you been in the industry now? Because I feel like we've known each other

00:01:43for a while. A long ass time. It's 12 years this month. 12 years this month. I was 20 years

00:01:49in September. Hell yeah. I know, right? It's crazy. Time goes by so quick. So fast. Do you

00:01:55remember when you were a kid and you couldn't wait to grow up and your parents would be like,

00:02:00don't say that. Once you get older, time flies by, and you'd be like, shut up. You're just saying

00:02:04that, and it's so true. How is it already almost November? This year went by so quick. It's

00:02:11ridiculous. So quick. Actually, the past five years have gone by really quick, so I don't know.

00:02:16You know it's going to keep happening like that. It's going to be the holidays next year before I

00:02:21know it. I'm going to blink and it's going to be. Are you a holiday girl? Are you excited about the

00:02:24holidays coming up? Yes and no. I think when I was younger, I didn't really care for it much,

00:02:30but now that I'm older, I have my own traditions and stuff. Interesting. I'm not really much of

00:02:35a decorator. I don't really decorate my home or put up a tree or anything like that, but I do like

00:02:39the feel of the holidays. It's very romantic to me, so I kind of like that. Yeah. I love.

00:02:47Christmas is my big thing. Halloween, I'm like, meh, I don't really decorate my house. We're

00:02:51doing pumpkin carving tonight. Full disclosure, people, I tend to record my podcasts weeks,

00:02:56sometimes weeks before they come out, so by the time this comes out, it will be after Halloween,

00:03:00so people will be like, what is she talking about? But just so you know. Today is actually

00:03:04October 29th in real time, in our time. So yeah, we are doing pumpkin carving tonight,

00:03:11but otherwise, yeah, Christmas is my jam. I like Christmas. I get a tree. I have a whole set of

00:03:20ornaments. I have a set of blue and white and then gold and white, and I alternate them every year.

00:03:27I have a bunch that my mother saved for me from when I was a little girl, ones that I made

00:03:31at school and stuff. So they're all like, they say my name on them when I was like seven.

00:03:37That's awesome. That's awesome. I know I made those when I was a kid, but I don't have any

00:03:43more of them. I think they broke and stuff like that. My mom saves everything. That's

00:03:47total pack rat. She saves it all, and then when we're older, she sends it to us. Well,

00:03:51now you're grateful that she did. Very much so. When I was younger, I was like, throw that away.

00:03:56Yeah. It's just junk, but now I'm like, oh, it's really cool.

00:04:00I have little bears and stuff. I was so little. It was just a little thing.

00:04:06Where did you grow up here? Arkansas.

00:04:08Arkansas. What was that like?

00:04:11Hell. It was so fucking boring.

00:04:13Really?

00:04:14I'm repressed and depraved.

00:04:16Really?

00:04:16Just nothing. There's nothing there.

00:04:18So when did you come out to California?

00:04:1918.

00:04:20Okay. And is that when you started working in the adult industry?

00:04:22Yeah, I came out here to do porn.

00:04:24Okay. So tell us how that whole thing started.

00:04:26Well, let's see. The minute I turned 18, my 18th birthday, I went and got an application at a strip

00:04:32club. I knew that was going. I knew for years at that point. I was just waiting, biding time.

00:04:38Were you like a sexually charged youngster?

00:04:41Very much so. Just out of control. Completely out of control.

00:04:46So when that happened, that actually calmed me down quite a bit. I don't know.

00:04:51Because you were able to freely exercise your sexual tendencies. It's when you repress people

00:04:58and you don't allow them to be who they are. I think that's when the problem arises.

00:05:01That's absolutely the problem. I was 100% repressed. So I finally found an outlet for me to

00:05:08release and express my sexuality and also make money while doing it and support myself. I was

00:05:12fucking in love. I was like, this is my jam. I didn't ever even go out anywhere. I was literally

00:05:17working at the club every single night because I loved it so much.

00:05:20I was thinking about this the other day. I remember at one point in the first couple

00:05:24of months I was working there, my manager actually told me that he couldn't allow me

00:05:27to come in and work that night because I had worked every single night for two weeks straight.

00:05:30And he said legally he couldn't allow me in the club. I was like, what the hell? This is

00:05:34bullshit. I want to come in and work. Legally? That's interesting.

00:05:37Because I'd been there for 14 days straight or something. I had to take some time off.

00:05:42So I just went to their competitor down the street.

00:05:47Do you like dancing?

00:05:49I love dancing. Actually, I miss it sometimes. I mean, because I feature dance now, but I wish I

00:05:54could go under the radar sometimes. Just go to the club and be a regular dancer. I kind of miss

00:05:59that hustling lifestyle sometimes. It's a high. It's definitely a high.

00:06:03That's interesting because almost every girl I talked to who was a stripper hated the hustle.

00:06:08That was a part that they didn't like.

00:06:10I think it takes a certain person to really enjoy that. To be able to walk up to someone

00:06:15and hustle them out of their money. It's a fun thing. It's like a mindfuck on a whole other

00:06:22level. You're not just mentally fucking this person. You're also taking their money. And

00:06:26they know you're doing it while it's happening. That's the whole reason they came there in the

00:06:30first place. But let's not forget society says that you're the one who's exploited.

00:06:35Oh, yeah.

00:06:36Don't forget. Don't forget. You're the one being taken advantage of.

00:06:39Poor me.

00:06:40Poor you.

00:06:40Poor me. I'm serious. I say it all the time and people don't believe me. I'm

00:06:45such an entitled sex worker. I literally cannot do anything domestic for myself. I can't cook.

00:06:51I can't clean. I've been a sex worker my entire adult life, and I've just had it all handed to

00:06:55me. And yet, meanwhile, poor me, I need saving. Lots of saving. It's ridiculous.

00:07:00So it's kind of interesting because we were talking a little bit before the podcast started

00:07:06about how things in the industry have changed so much. And that was kind of actually one of

00:07:11the fan questions. Hold on. Let me pull it up.

00:07:14Because I want to give him credit for asking this question. Don Juan won.

00:07:22Oh, yes.

00:07:22Because there's multiple ones. You probably know who all these people are.

00:07:26Probably, yeah.

00:07:27He wants to know, after so many years in this business, how do you stay sane with all the

00:07:31changes going on? And we were just saying it has changed so much over the last 12 years.

00:07:36So you've seen the change. So tell me from your experience what it was like and what it's like

00:07:43now.

00:07:44When I first started, honestly, it's changed so much. But there's good and bad things about it,

00:07:52I guess. When I first started, you literally had to find people to hire you. You had to have been

00:07:58hired by people. You know what I mean? Social media was really just starting out. I mean,

00:08:04we had MySpace back then. Oh, shit. That dates me.

00:08:07MySpace.

00:08:09But we didn't really have a good platform for advertising for ourselves in order to be able

00:08:13to produce our own content. So you really had to work with producers and directors to get on set

00:08:18in order to make money. But there was also a lot more money going into. There's a lot more budget

00:08:24and different things like that. So there was more work that way. So now it's like you kind of,

00:08:30when you do it yourself, you have to work harder. But the payoff is better, I feel.

00:08:35Being able to work for myself is great. I mean, it's a lot. Don't get me wrong. It is a lot of

00:08:39work. It's a lot more work than just showing up and sitting in a makeup chair for an hour and then

00:08:43getting up and standing in front of a camera and watch runs repeat. It's way different. It's way

00:08:48more work, but I enjoy it. So I like doing that. I'm extremely independent. And I get a lot of

00:08:56self-worth out of it too, being able to do something for myself like that.

00:08:59Really?

00:09:00Yeah.

00:09:00So you think it kind of helps you with your self-esteem?

00:09:02Oh, 100%. 100%. When I can wake up in the morning, check all my stats and just keep pushing,

00:09:08keep myself motivated, it feels great.

00:09:11What platforms do you generally really hustle on?

00:09:15Well, Twitter is where I'm the most active on my Twitter.

00:09:19And that's at XOGeorgiaJones.

00:09:21Yeah, XOGeorgiaJones. And that's my same for my Instagram too, but Instagram's stupid.

00:09:26Well, they don't really like sex workers.

00:09:28At all.

00:09:30Don't get me started. I don't like Facebook is what it is.

00:09:34Yeah, Facebook is the same. I have my Facebook account deleted.

00:09:39It's funny because I was talking to somebody who works in mainstream. They're like,

00:09:41well, why don't you go on Instagram and then promote your site and then do the swipe up?

00:09:47I'm like, if I do the swipe up and directly link to a porn site, I'm like, they will delete me.

00:09:51Yeah, for sure.

00:09:51So I have to be so fucking careful.

00:09:55I had a post that was literally just a blank white sheet of paper. And on it, it said,

00:10:01fuck you, cunt. Just like written in blue ink. That was it. And I posted a picture of it and

00:10:06said, oh, someone wrote me a love letter is what I put in the caption. And they deleted it saying

00:10:10it was hate speech. I'm like, really? Like, I put it on my own like, whatever.

00:10:16Wow. I know. I've heard like girls say that like they get their pictures of their dogs deleted.

00:10:21Coffee mugs, pictures of coffee mugs. I'm not even kidding.

00:10:24Yeah.

00:10:24Yeah. Just stupid shit.

00:10:26Yeah. Do you think that it's people that are just constantly like reporting you? Like,

00:10:31do you have trolls that really attack you online?

00:10:33Constantly.

00:10:34And what kind of stuff do they say to you?

00:10:36Stupid shit. Stupid shit. Just retarded. Like, okay, because I'm constantly bitching about

00:10:43don't watch stolen porn because it's not free. And people will be like, that's why we watch

00:10:47porn. Like, actually, someone just said that to me earlier. That's why we watch porn is because

00:10:50it's free. And I was like, eating dirt is also free. Why don't you try that, honey? It's good

00:10:54for you. Just stupid shit.

00:10:57I think people really don't realize the fact that like,

00:11:02I think it's so easy to get away with just watching free porn. Because first of all,

00:11:06I think a lot of people don't want to join a website because they don't want their credit

00:11:08card connected to an adult site. They're afraid of some kind of exposure. And also too, they don't

00:11:13see like an inherent value in porn. So they don't believe that they should invest in it. But people

00:11:18use it all the time. And there's still so much shame around masturbation and around watching

00:11:24porn. And yeah, it's just like the perfect recipe for people wanting to consume a product,

00:11:31but not paying for it. And then thinking that somehow we're just going to make money in other

00:11:36ways. They absolutely think that. Yeah. And also, a big portion of them also still see us as

00:11:42like subhuman. So it's like, even if they see, a lot of people are ignorant to it. They don't

00:11:48understand that that content is being stolen from us. But then there's also a giant group of people

00:11:53that understand that and they just simply don't give a shit because they think that we're all

00:11:57whores. And so it doesn't matter. Right, right, right. That we should be stolen from. Right.

00:12:00Because we're dirty, I guess. Right. Or lame. I don't know. I'm like, I don't know. What's the...

00:12:06But the irony is, of course, that they are using your product to fulfill their own like pleasure

00:12:12seeking desires. They'll use the shit out of it and then turn around and like mock us and degrade

00:12:17us all the same while. Yeah. That's okay. I'm still laughing. What about... Now, you do have

00:12:25a lot of like hardcore fans, though, like people that really love you. Yes, yes. Why do you think

00:12:29that you have such a strong following? Do you think it's because you interact with them?

00:12:33Or do you think it's... I mean, you've always had like a very unique... I don't know. Like,

00:12:38sometimes it's hard for me to know why some girls have such a strong fan base and other girls don't.

00:12:45Not saying that you don't deserve it because, of course, you do. You're beautiful and you're a

00:12:47great performer and all of these things. But sometimes other beautiful, great performers

00:12:51will also... But they won't get like that kind of cultish. You almost have like a cultish fan

00:12:57following that other girls won't have. Do you think you know... Do you know why you have that?

00:13:02I mean, I can't be 100% sure. But honestly, I think it's the way a girl carries herself in

00:13:08the business. If it really... Like, you can really tell. It translates onto film if a girl really

00:13:13enjoys her job or not. And for me, it makes a huge difference if a girl really enjoys her job

00:13:19or not because that's going to make my job that much easier. When a girl shows up and she just

00:13:23hates life, you know what I mean? That's just... It sucks. It really does. So I think that translates

00:13:27very well. And so people can see that. So it makes them feel better watching that stuff.

00:13:32Like they don't feel like they're exploiting that person. That person is... It's easier to

00:13:36enjoy porn if you feel like the people that you're watching are really enjoying it.

00:13:40I also noticed too, I have a lot of girls fans and young girl fans in particular. And I think

00:13:46that has to do with... They can relate with me the way that I look. They relate with that. And

00:13:53the fact that I'm an empowered woman that just embraces her sexuality and quite frankly doesn't

00:13:57give a fuck. So they see something in that that they want to be that, you know...

00:14:02And you're also all natural. You haven't fallen into that trap of needing to get work done.

00:14:07No, it's too expensive. Fuck that. I don't know. I'm way too greedy. No, thank you.

00:14:14Well, I would like to also think too that you just embrace who you are and you're happy with

00:14:19your body the way it is. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think you look great. I personally like...

00:14:25I don't know. I think girls should do whatever they want to make them happy. And don't get me

00:14:28wrong. It's not like I haven't had Botox or whatever. I am not perfect. But I don't know.

00:14:33Sometimes I just see these girls go to these cartoonish proportions with their body and I'm

00:14:38just like, what? That just looks weird. I agree. But I'm with you on that. Let anyone do what

00:14:44they want. If they want to look like that, then that's perfectly fine with me. You know what I

00:14:47mean? As long as they're happy. As long as they're not doing it and that's just making

00:14:51themselves feel worse. Yeah. The issue is when I see girls constantly getting more and more stuff

00:14:56done and just becoming like... It's crazy too because it's always the most beautiful, stunning

00:15:01women and then they go and just change everything and it's like, but you were perfection. Why did

00:15:08you mess with perfection? It doesn't make sense to my brain. Yeah. Everybody sees themselves

00:15:14differently. Totally. It's hard to... I always see really gorgeous girls end up being the most

00:15:19insecure people I know. I'm like, how does that happen? I wonder if it's because their whole life

00:15:25they had so much importance placed upon their looks and that is something that is a very

00:15:33transient quality and there's always going to be somebody younger and prettier than you.

00:15:38I mean, it's great to be beautiful, but it's not something that you can cultivate.

00:15:44They've had so much worth put on their physical appearance.

00:15:47Right. And people ignore maybe their mental abilities or their skill sets in other areas

00:15:55and it's hard to build a strong feeling of self-esteem just based on your looks.

00:16:00Yeah. Because, yeah, people value that, but they value that in a shallow sense.

00:16:04And if you've spent like half of your life worried about only this and not what's in here,

00:16:09then it's like, what do you do? Try to upkeep this one or just start all over again with something

00:16:13here that feels like to them, I think. I think. I really don't know.

00:16:17And I can't imagine how difficult it must be to be aging when you've spent your whole life being

00:16:25concerned. All of your eggs in that basket.

00:16:26Yeah. I can't remember where I read it. It was some article I read somewhere, but

00:16:32someone said that they made a conscious effort to tell young girls, I'm talking like children,

00:16:37not saying like, you're such a beautiful girl, but more along the lines of, you're such a smart girl

00:16:42or you're such a talented girl. Because we so easily jump to like, oh, what a beautiful little

00:16:48girl, which of course is probably true and great, but there's something to be said for putting

00:16:54emphasis on other aspects, other skill sets, that kind of thing.

00:16:57Absolutely.

00:16:58I remember when I was young, I wanted to be a model, right? I had this bizarre,

00:17:04bizarre thought when I was super young, I'm talking like, I don't know, six, seven,

00:17:09that I was going to, I think it was probably just being surrounded, my mom was a photographer,

00:17:14being surrounded by models, always looking at fashion magazines and that kind of stuff.

00:17:19Always being obsessed with the idea that I was going to grow up to be the most beautiful woman

00:17:23in the world. I seriously thought that. It was very, very strange. I didn't think I was the

00:17:29most beautiful girl in the world at that moment in time, but I thought when I'm older, that's

00:17:34what's going to happen. And I would look at girls in fashion magazines, I'm like, Kate Moss, I'm

00:17:39going to be more beautiful than that. I don't know why. Yeah, right? And it was this obsession

00:17:43of mine, which is so stupid now that I think about it. I mean, obviously that didn't happen,

00:17:50but I don't know why I was so obsessed with it. And so I wanted to be a model when I was younger.

00:17:54And my mom, who was a model and then became a photographer, she said to me, she was like,

00:18:00I would not choose that life for you. I think she also saw that I probably didn't have what

00:18:04it took, but she didn't want to be like, you don't have what it takes. She was more like,

00:18:08you should try being behind the camera. You have a lot more power. Exactly. She was like,

00:18:13the self-esteem, the way people cut you down, the way people talk to you, the way people

00:18:18just see you as an object. Why don't you, you should try being behind the camera because

00:18:25there's so much more power in that. There's so much more control in that. And that was the

00:18:28best piece of advice she ever gave me. And I think what it was is that when I was young,

00:18:32I was obsessed with beauty and with the female image. But when I was young, I didn't know

00:18:37how to translate that into something else except for me being that beautiful image. But then once

00:18:44I found my place behind the camera, I was like, oh, this is where I was meant to be

00:18:49helping other women create and cultivate this beautiful image. And it felt so much more

00:18:55comfortable for me. It made more sense for me. And yeah, there was a lot more power and control.

00:19:00When did you start shooting?

00:19:01I started, I took my first photography class when I was 12.

00:19:04Jesus.

00:19:06Yeah. So I became like obsessed.

00:19:08She's like, here, start now.

00:19:10Yeah. I mean, that's when I became obsessed with photography. I feel very fortunate that

00:19:15I knew from a young age what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. I was sure of it.

00:19:20So that's when I really like locked into that and I was like, this is what I want to do. But I've

00:19:24always loved photos and taking photos. I used to steal my mom's camera, my mom's Polaroid camera

00:19:31when I was a little girl and like to shoot the dog, the chair, the floor, like waste all this

00:19:37film. She'd be like, fuck. She'd have to like hide it from me. So even then, I loved that.

00:19:42Even those developed.

00:19:43Yeah. I know. Exactly. I loved capturing images, but I wasn't able to like actually focus in on

00:19:51becoming a photographer until I took that first class. And then I was like, okay, this is what

00:19:55I was meant to do for the rest of my life. So.

00:19:57I still remember the first time I shot with your mother. It was like,

00:20:00I had a celebrity photographer shooting me. I was so excited, Holly. Oh my God. I was so excited.

00:20:05It was so cool that you actually got to shoot with my mom because, you know,

00:20:08she's retired a long time ago. So a lot of people haven't never shot with her.

00:20:13They've never experienced.

00:20:14I think she retired that year if I remember correctly.

00:20:16Probably. Probably.

00:20:18It was like when she still had the studio over there, right off of.

00:20:23No, no, no. It was off of Sepulveda.

00:20:25That's right.

00:20:25Yeah. By the 405.

00:20:26Yes. Yes. That's crazy.

00:20:29What did we, what was the set? Do you remember?

00:20:34Florals with blue. I don't remember.

00:20:36Was it just a solo?

00:20:38Yeah. But then you and I shot at that studio too when we did that fashion campaign, like

00:20:42alienware or some shit. Do you remember that?

00:20:45Oh yeah. With Caden Cross.

00:20:48Yes. And Alan.

00:20:50Yes. Oh, oh yes. The guy, the male porn star. I shot him for Playgirl.

00:20:57Fuck. I can't remember his last name either.

00:20:59Stafford.

00:21:00Yes. Alan Stafford. Thank you.

00:21:02I knew it was in there. Yeah. That was crazy, right? That was the first time you shot me,

00:21:06actually, was for a fashion campaign. Yeah. That was crazy. I actually came across those

00:21:11pictures a couple of years ago and was like, what the fuck?

00:21:13I still have them.

00:21:15Holy.

00:21:15I totally still have them.

00:21:17Yeah. Yeah. That was, that guy had no idea what he was doing. That clothing was not so great.

00:21:24Yeah. It was very odd.

00:21:24But he was willing to spend.

00:21:26I think I might even still have one of those shirts with a little alien head on it. I swear

00:21:31to you. I don't throw anything away.

00:21:33That would be amazing. Do you like your mother?

00:21:36Yes. I wonder where I got it. Thanks, mom.

00:21:41Yeah. I remember we were, because he spent all this money on shooting.

00:21:45And then I remember asking him what his business plan was in order to get the campaign out there,

00:21:51and he didn't know.

00:21:53He's like, I'm going to have you shoot it.

00:21:54Yeah. And then I'll figure it out. And I was like, okay.

00:21:59All right, then. So this will be a one-time thing.

00:22:03I just remember the look on your face. You're like, okay, just put this on. I don't know.

00:22:07Yeah. And I was like, sorry. I mean, hey, you're wearing clothes, right?

00:22:12Yeah, exactly.

00:22:13I mean.

00:22:13You're getting a paycheck.

00:22:14Yeah.

00:22:15And you're not getting naked.

00:22:16Yeah.

00:22:16So that's new.

00:22:17So that's new. What was the first time I actually shot you in a scene? Do you remember?

00:22:22I don't remember these things. I wish I did.

00:22:24I have no idea.

00:22:28I didn't do you in that dog grooming scene, did I?

00:22:32No.

00:22:32I did a dog grooming scene at the studio once. It was really bizarre.

00:22:36That's funny. Were y'all actually grooming dogs?

00:22:38Yes.

00:22:38Oh, my God. Why wasn't I in that scene?

00:22:40I don't know.

00:22:41That's great.

00:22:41It was a girl-girl scene. And it was a dog grooming scene. Obviously, the dogs got out

00:22:48once the sex started. But I think my dog, Bonnie, was in it. And I remember that so

00:22:54distinctly because, first of all, dogs were in it. I fucking love dogs. But second of all,

00:22:59I remember our old set designer, Ishmael. And he was normally extremely talented,

00:23:05but there was something about... I think he didn't understand what a dog grooming place

00:23:09is supposed to look like. He was Colombian. I don't think he'd ever been to a dog groomer.

00:23:14It was just not something that he understood.

00:23:17And it was literally the ugliest set he ever built. And I remember my mom came in and freaked

00:23:22out because she hated it so much. And it was just a disaster.

00:23:25I'm trying to think. I want to say it was like you shot me and Yana Kova. Does that

00:23:30sound familiar?

00:23:31That sounds familiar.

00:23:32In a yoga scene, I think.

00:23:33Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:34At your mom's place, right?

00:23:35Yep. In the Daylight Studio above. I remember that.

00:23:37Yeah. And then you had me out in your horse stable and stuff, too.

00:23:40Yes. Okay.

00:23:41White horse?

00:23:42Yes. Spanky. That was my horse. He died.

00:23:45Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sad about that.

00:23:47I love horses.

00:23:47I know.

00:23:48Yeah, that was a fun set.

00:23:50Yeah. It's all on Suze.net.

00:23:52I'm like, yeah.

00:23:52Suze.net. Streetball. Go check it out.

00:23:55That was a long time ago.

00:23:56Yeah.

00:23:572010?

00:23:59Nine?

00:24:00Maybe.

00:24:01Somewhere back there.

00:24:02I don't know.

00:24:02I don't know. It's all fuzzy after a while.

00:24:04I know, right?

00:24:05I can remember certain days usually based off of outfits, but that's about it. When I see a

00:24:11certain outfit, I'll remember that scene or whatever that scenario, but I won't remember

00:24:15when it was or anything like that.

00:24:17I used to be very proud of myself on how I could remember every single set I'd ever shot,

00:24:22who was in it, what they wore, what the set was. I was a rain man with that shit.

00:24:27That's a lot in your hard drive.

00:24:28But now I can't.

00:24:29You just got to purge it at a certain point.

00:24:31I know. I mean, I've done probably over 5,000 shoots for sure.

00:24:37Jesus Christ.

00:24:38If not significantly more than that.

00:24:41That's a lot.

00:24:42Probably more than that.

00:24:43That's crazy.

00:24:44Somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 shoots.

00:24:45How many scenes do you do a month now?

00:24:47God, it depends. October was the busiest month of the year for me.

00:24:53Lisa Anne booked the shit out of me because we finished two of her movies.

00:24:58So I mean, this month I was shooting anywhere.

00:25:01I was shooting about three to four days a week, mostly three.

00:25:07But normally, honestly, it's more like two days a week.

00:25:11I don't know. I was super busy last year.

00:25:14And then this year, things just fell off.

00:25:18No, things fell off.

00:25:19Oh, really?

00:25:19Yeah. Like I said, October was really busy.

00:25:22But I lost two big clients.

00:25:25And then there was this whole shit with my website.

00:25:29I had to relaunch it.

00:25:31I didn't... I'm not going to get into it.

00:25:34But anyways, yeah, I had a rough year.

00:25:37I really had a rough year.

00:25:38So I'm working less now than I really have been in a long time.

00:25:44But that's okay, because I started this podcast.

00:25:47Four days a week makes my knees hurt.

00:25:49Yeah, I can't do... Honestly, I can't do four days a week anymore.

00:25:53Before, it was like I wouldn't do more than four.

00:25:57Like five days was too much.

00:25:58Now, like four days is too much.

00:25:59Like three days is too much.

00:26:01Three days is a lot.

00:26:02Three days is a lot.

00:26:02Even if it's split up, like Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, it's still a lot.

00:26:05Because the thing is, is that not only is it...

00:26:08It's not like we just show up.

00:26:09At least for me, I don't just show up to set.

00:26:11Like I have to prep for it.

00:26:13We have to get props.

00:26:14I have to pack wardrobe.

00:26:15We have to make sure everyone's scheduled in.

00:26:16And then I just have all this like office backend shit to do.

00:26:20It's a ton of work.

00:26:20And then afterwards, I have to process everything.

00:26:23I have to get it out to my clients.

00:26:24Like everybody has a different way in which they want to receive content.

00:26:27So it's a lot.

00:26:30And I have a full-time assistant too.

00:26:31And it's still a fucking lot.

00:26:34It's crazy.

00:26:35Just on the small scale of what I do for my own stuff, that's a lot of work.

00:26:40Just managing that is all I can imagine.

00:26:42It stresses me out thinking about it.

00:26:44I'm like, no.

00:26:45So well, tell me what...

00:26:47Since this is about you and not me, though I love that you're asking me questions about

00:26:51myself because Lord knows I love to talk about myself.

00:26:55What are you doing specifically these days?

00:26:58I know we talked about the different platforms that you use.

00:27:01I think we got to Twitter and then we went off on a tangent.

00:27:04I rant a lot.

00:27:05It's okay.

00:27:06That's why Twitter is good for me.

00:27:07Twitter is a great place to rant.

00:27:09I love it.

00:27:09I love it so much.

00:27:11All my fans get excited whenever I put rant time because they know a big ass thread is

00:27:15about to come.

00:27:16I've seen some of your rants.

00:27:17I can't help it.

00:27:18Sometimes my Twitter fingers get to snap in.

00:27:20And then afterwards, I'm like, should I delete that?

00:27:23Fuck it.

00:27:24Whatever.

00:27:25Okay.

00:27:25So I've got Twitter and Instagram.

00:27:27And then I've also got Snapchat, my premium Snapchat that I sell.

00:27:31That's been doing really well for a lot of people.

00:27:33Actually, it's doing surprisingly well.

00:27:36And then I cam on CamSoda.

00:27:38And then I sell customs, Skype dates, my only fans, my website, badgirljones.com.

00:27:46Are you still shooting and updating that?

00:27:48Yeah.

00:27:48Wow.

00:27:49I'm in the process of redoing it.

00:27:54That's such a nightmare.

00:27:55I know it is.

00:27:56I just said it cost me a fortune.

00:27:59I'm like, it's really slow going because of that very thing.

00:28:04But it's going to get there eventually.

00:28:05But I've got so many other things that are going on too that it's okay.

00:28:08That it's okay.

00:28:09It's not going anywhere, but it's going to be better.

00:28:12Yeah.

00:28:12I'm hoping by January-ish, maybe February.

00:28:17Yeah.

00:28:17I don't know.

00:28:17Don't quote me.

00:28:18Always add a month on whatever you think it's going to be.

00:28:20It's probably going to be like my birthday.

00:28:24Yeah.

00:28:24So I've got like so many things that are going on, but it's really good.

00:28:27It keeps me busy.

00:28:28I really love it.

00:28:29What's the kind of content mostly that you shoot for your website?

00:28:32Like do you just shoot like stuff on-

00:28:34A lot of solo stuff.

00:28:35A lot of solo stuff.

00:28:36Do you like shoot it yourself?

00:28:38Like put a camera on a tripod?

00:28:39Do you have someone come in and shoot it for you?

00:28:40Both.

00:28:41I do trade because obviously my stuff is going to look very pro-am.

00:28:45Because I mean, I have all this production equipment, but I don't necessarily know

00:28:49what I'm doing with it.

00:28:50Right.

00:28:50So my stuff looks very pro-am when I shoot it myself, but then I'll do trade with people

00:28:56and get like actual professional, nice, quality photos and videos.

00:29:00That solo we did was on trade, right?

00:29:02The one where you got stung by the bee?

00:29:04Yes.

00:29:04No, no, no.

00:29:05I'm sorry.

00:29:05Not that one.

00:29:06Wait.

00:29:06No, that one.

00:29:07You paid me for that one.

00:29:08But we did another trade day, didn't we?

00:29:10Probably.

00:29:11Yeah, I think we did.

00:29:12I don't remember.

00:29:13Jesus.

00:29:15I don't know.

00:29:15But yeah, I'll do things like that, you know?

00:29:18And then so then I'll have like actually good quality stuff mixed in with my more amateur

00:29:22stuff.

00:29:22So they have a good mix.

00:29:24Do you find that your fans prefer one over the other or the two different camps?

00:29:27They like both, actually.

00:29:28They like the variety.

00:29:30They like knowing that I shot some stuff, but then they also like the quality of like

00:29:33your stuff, you know?

00:29:34So they like it mixed up.

00:29:36I think they just like new stuff, honestly.

00:29:39So that's really what it is.

00:29:40Just new.

00:29:41Yeah.

00:29:42Sometimes I wish I wasn't like locked into that glamour style because it's so expensive

00:29:47to produce.

00:29:48And, you know, like if I could just shoot like amateur content, it would cost me like

00:29:53so much less.

00:29:54But it's just not my thing.

00:29:55And I don't – it's funny because I don't – if I watch porn, I actually almost prefer

00:30:00the more amateur looking stuff.

00:30:01I'm not into high production stuff.

00:30:03But what I shoot, it like has to be high production.

00:30:05Otherwise, like I can't – I literally can't post amateur content.

00:30:09Like it hurts my eyes.

00:30:11Like I just – you know what I mean?

00:30:13I'm such a perfectionist and I'm so locked into what I do.

00:30:16If there's like the lighting's wrong, I can't.

00:30:19I just can't.

00:30:19I like physically can't.

00:30:21It looks exquisite, though.

00:30:22Thank you.

00:30:23Your stuff is beautiful.

00:30:24Thank you.

00:30:24I just wish more people would pay for it.

00:30:26Yeah, you're telling me.

00:30:27Hey, you're telling me.

00:30:30Oh, God.

00:30:32It's so hard.

00:30:34Why is it so hard?

00:30:35You know, and that's crazy.

00:30:36There are a lot of people still – I have to give credit to there are a lot of people

00:30:40that are still paying for shit.

00:30:41Yes.

00:30:42Like the customs.

00:30:43I make good money doing customs.

00:30:44Tell me about your customs because I always find that that's so interesting that girls

00:30:48always have these really interesting – you know, you must get weird requests.

00:30:52Yes, I get really weird requests, but I make more money doing customs than I do – like

00:30:58if I can make – if I do two custom days a month, that's way more than I make doing

00:31:04scenes.

00:31:04Like my checks from producers who do customs – because I shoot my own customs, but I

00:31:08also work for producers that also shoot customs.

00:31:10Right, right.

00:31:11And like I can work for a producer and I'll get like double my daily rate just to shoot

00:31:15one day of customs with them.

00:31:17Wow.

00:31:18Like versus one or two scenes for someone else what they would pay me.

00:31:21Right, right, right.

00:31:22Like it's good money.

00:31:23It's really good money.

00:31:24It's work.

00:31:25Do you find that there's a certain type of custom that you tend to get booked for more

00:31:29often?

00:31:30Yeah.

00:31:30What's that?

00:31:31The jack-off instruction.

00:31:33Ah, okay.

00:31:35Yeah.

00:31:35A lot, a lot, a lot of it.

00:31:36So explain to our audience who may not know exactly what that is.

00:31:40Jack-off instruction is where a girl or girls – or well, I guess a guy can do it too.

00:31:46Anyone, a sex symbol, a porn star is like talking to the camera and instructing you

00:31:53how to jack-off.

00:31:55It could be for – it's usually mainly for guys, but I've done them for women as

00:31:59well actually.

00:32:00I've gotten custom orders to do them for women as well.

00:32:02Right.

00:32:02So you just talk about whatever, rub your clit, take your dick out, don't come yet,

00:32:07blah, blah, blah.

00:32:08Right.

00:32:08There's two different kinds.

00:32:09There's encouragement and then there's instruction.

00:32:11Instruction is you tell them precisely what to do, no, you wait for my command type of

00:32:15shit.

00:32:15Okay.

00:32:16I'll count down and then you can come on the one.

00:32:18So it's more like a dominance type thing.

00:32:19Yeah.

00:32:20And then the encouragement, the J-O-E –

00:32:23I actually didn't know that there was two different kinds.

00:32:26Yeah, there's encouragement and then there's instruction because I actually – I got

00:32:29them confused one time.

00:32:30Someone asked for encouragement and I gave them instruction and they were like, what

00:32:34the fuck is this shit?

00:32:35And I was like, oh, my bad.

00:32:36I don't know.

00:32:38You don't see the E?

00:32:40Yeah, it's funny how specific people are about their requests.

00:32:43But you know, I mean –

00:32:43Very specific.

00:32:44To be fair, they're paying.

00:32:46They can make those requests.

00:32:47Honestly, the ones that are really specific – unless they're just like completely

00:32:50over the top, like a full 10-page script, that's ridiculous.

00:32:53But I actually prefer the ones that are more specific because then I know exactly what

00:32:57I'm going to do and I don't have to stop and think about it when I get in the video,

00:33:00you know what I mean?

00:33:00Like they literally have it down to a T.

00:33:03They tell me what to wear, what color lip gloss, how my hair should be, my makeup.

00:33:08It's perfect.

00:33:08It's like brainless.

00:33:09Yeah.

00:33:10What are some of the strangest requests that you've gotten?

00:33:14Oh, Jesus.

00:33:15There's some really, really weird ones.

00:33:21Any of the messy ones are always very bizarre to me, like covering myself in like beans.

00:33:28Beans?

00:33:29Yeah, no.

00:33:29I actually had a guy recently tell me that he wants me to do a come eating instruction,

00:33:35which is where I instruct him to eat his own semen, right?

00:33:38Okay.

00:33:38But while I'm doing that, I have to like dump a can of beans on my head.

00:33:43And then like, yeah, and something else, sit on a balloon and let it pop and scare me.

00:33:47I don't know, some weird-ass shit.

00:33:49I was like, okay, are you going to send the beans in the balloons?

00:33:52Oh my God.

00:33:53Because I'm not buying that.

00:33:54That is so bizarre.

00:33:55It's just weird-ass shit.

00:33:56Did he care what kind of beans they were?

00:33:58Did they have to be like kidney beans or black beans, baked beans?

00:34:02He wants them super, super savory and like messy and like, yeah, I don't know.

00:34:07Jesus Christ.

00:34:09It's just weird-ass shit.

00:34:11Wow.

00:34:11And you just sit on a balloon at the same time.

00:34:13Yeah.

00:34:14Sit on the balloon, dump the beans on my head and tell him to eat his cum.

00:34:17Wow.

00:34:18All at once.

00:34:19Wow.

00:34:19That's like multitasking.

00:34:21I was going to say, that's like rubbing your belly and patting your head at the same time.

00:34:25Very much.

00:34:26I mean, at least he didn't ask me to fist my ass at the same time.

00:34:28Yeah.

00:34:29That's where it gets complicated.

00:34:30Yeah.

00:34:30You charge extra for that.

00:34:32Extra, extra.

00:34:34Any other ones?

00:34:36Just the most bizarre shit.

00:34:38One guy wanted me to, funny enough, I think I was talking about this a minute ago,

00:34:43he wanted me to take a video of me clipping my toenails and then end up sending him

00:34:50a baggie of my clipped toenails.

00:34:52And I'm just like, not happening because your ass is like doing some voodoo or something.

00:34:57Yeah.

00:34:58Nope.

00:34:59Yeah.

00:35:00I don't want to know what you're doing with those toenails.

00:35:02They're staying as my property though.

00:35:04That is so bizarre.

00:35:05I'll make the video, but I'm not sending you my actual DNA.

00:35:08Oh my God.

00:35:09That is so weird.

00:35:10Yeah.

00:35:11Some guys are very strange.

00:35:12Some girls are strange too though.

00:35:14I had some really, really weird ones from girls.

00:35:17They're not so much like sexually bizarre, but it's just weird that that's what they'd asked me for.

00:35:23Like one person, one lady asked me if I would take a video of me putting my cat on my head

00:35:31and just walking around with my cat on my head.

00:35:33Like what?

00:35:34I guess.

00:35:35When she get a baby for that.

00:35:37What if she claws me and I have to take off work?

00:35:38You're paying for that too.

00:35:40Yeah.

00:35:41Wow.

00:35:41Just weird shit.

00:35:42Like, okay.

00:35:44Wow.

00:35:44I don't know.

00:35:45I mean, I don't want to like kink shame people.

00:35:47You know, whatever you're into is cool.

00:35:49But I've always been interested in like what makes that sexual for someone.

00:35:54Like that guy with the beans, something must have happened to him like an adolescence or

00:35:59something like that.

00:36:00Or like he was being bullied and someone like dumped a can of beans on him or something like

00:36:05that.

00:36:06Yeah.

00:36:07Something like that.

00:36:07And for some reason, he connected it to something sexual or some sort of like taboo.

00:36:12And I mean, yeah, totally.

00:36:14Because I mean, I don't know.

00:36:15I'd like to think of myself as being very out there sexually.

00:36:19But some of these requests I get make me feel very vanilla.

00:36:21I'm like, what?

00:36:23Now that's kind of odd, but I don't know.

00:36:25Maybe I'll be into it.

00:36:26I should try it.

00:36:27So how are you out there sexually?

00:36:28Like, are you into fetish stuff?

00:36:30Are you into like bondage?

00:36:31Yeah.

00:36:32Just bought everything really.

00:36:34Everything?

00:36:34I mean, not everything, I guess.

00:36:35But most everything I'm willing to try that way.

00:36:40I'm just very curious, I guess.

00:36:42I don't have like one thing that does it for me, I guess, other than possibly just lots of sex.

00:36:47Yeah.

00:36:48I don't know.

00:36:49But other than that, I just I like to mix it up a lot.

00:36:53Get bored with one thing.

00:36:54Yeah, I get really bored.

00:36:56So on to the next thing, just step it up a little bit.

00:36:59Yeah, I hear you.

00:37:00I was in a relationship with a dom for about a year and we really explored a lot of like

00:37:06bondage and spanking and all that kind of stuff.

00:37:10But I don't know.

00:37:10I almost feel like I like got my I almost feel like I wore it out.

00:37:16Totally.

00:37:17Like I'm kind of not into that the way I used to be anymore.

00:37:22I also don't know if it's just because I'm older and I'm like more boring now.

00:37:26That's what I've been feeling lately because I've just been like.

00:37:28My sex drive isn't what it was.

00:37:30It's like it'll be there sometimes.

00:37:33And when it's there, it's really on.

00:37:34But then a lot of times it's just like, nah.

00:37:36Yeah.

00:37:36I'm not feeling that.

00:37:37I want to get up in the morning.

00:37:38Yeah.

00:37:38So I'm going to bed now.

00:37:40Yes.

00:37:40Take it or leave it.

00:37:41Do you go to bed early?

00:37:42Yes.

00:37:43I go to bed so fucking early.

00:37:44I go to bed too.

00:37:45Yeah.

00:37:45Like how early?

00:37:46I go to bed like nine o'clock.

00:37:47Yep.

00:37:48I will too sometimes.

00:37:49Nine, ten.

00:37:50And then like I can't sleep in past like 730.

00:37:53Yes.

00:37:53And but it's like I actually enjoy that, though.

00:37:56Yeah.

00:37:56Because growing up mornings were fucking hell for me all the way until at least like 26,

00:38:0127.

00:38:01Yeah.

00:38:02I was not a morning person.

00:38:03No.

00:38:03Same.

00:38:04So now that I can actually wake up in the morning and enjoy it, I'm like, fuck yeah,

00:38:07this is great.

00:38:08I know.

00:38:09It's nice to like feel like you've gotten a lot of things accomplished by like noon.

00:38:12Yes.

00:38:13That's my thing.

00:38:14Yeah.

00:38:14To feel like, okay, everything.

00:38:15My house is fucking perfect.

00:38:17Got all my chores done.

00:38:18Yeah.

00:38:18Balanced my checkbook.

00:38:20Yeah.

00:38:20Now I can do whatever.

00:38:22You got the rest of the day.

00:38:22Yeah.

00:38:23Fuck yeah.

00:38:24Yeah.

00:38:24I'm the same.

00:38:25I used to hate mornings too.

00:38:26I remember my mom used to come in.

00:38:28I was such an asshole.

00:38:30Like in high school, I was the worst at waking up in the morning.

00:38:33My mom used to come in and wake me up and she had all these different tricks that she

00:38:36would do.

00:38:36First of all, she would always say, wakey, wakey, which to this day makes my skin crawl.

00:38:42This is so annoying.

00:38:44And especially when you're like in high school and you hate life and you're up all night.

00:38:50Oh, it's the worst.

00:38:51First thing in the morning, wakey, wakey.

00:38:54And then she would pull the covers off and then I'd pull them down and then she'd take

00:38:59water and she'd sprinkle it on me.

00:39:02I mean, she just had so many different methods to try to get me out of bed.

00:39:05I mean, honestly, poor woman because I used to throw shit at her.

00:39:11I was horrible.

00:39:13I was a demon.

00:39:14I was definitely a demon.

00:39:15I feel like I would just be like, if I had a kid, I'd be like, fine, fucking miss and

00:39:18flunk out of school.

00:39:19See what happens in your life.

00:39:21Fine, sleep.

00:39:22Sleep through your life.

00:39:23Because you've only got five years left in this house.

00:39:25Yeah, exactly.

00:39:28You better get to step in.

00:39:30But it's funny as you get older, like the things that like are exciting and I don't

00:39:35know that like for me now, like a great Sunday is like going to the farmer's market, getting

00:39:41up early, going to the gym, getting like breakfast with my man, like going to the farmer's market,

00:39:46like all these little domestic things that I used to think were so boring.

00:39:50I just started cooking.

00:39:52Really?

00:39:53Like for the first time in my life, right?

00:39:54I turned 30 in April and just in the past like month, I honestly have never cooked before.

00:40:00Like I couldn't tell you even what to do.

00:40:02Like ramen, but only the kind that I can put in the microwave.

00:40:08So I started cooking recently and going to the grocery store, let me tell you what,

00:40:12it was like a whole new experience.

00:40:14The first like two times I went, I was so overwhelmed.

00:40:17Yeah, there's a lot of choices.

00:40:18I spent like three hours in there, just like scared shitless, like on just the seasoning

00:40:22aisle.

00:40:22Like what the fuck am I doing?

00:40:24And what grocery store did you go to?

00:40:26Ralph's.

00:40:26Okay.

00:40:27Because I was going to say like sometimes when I go to like Whole Foods.

00:40:29Oh yeah, no, I have a Whole Foods.

00:40:30I don't know what to do.

00:40:33Whole Foods is bad enough when you're not cooking.

00:40:35Yeah.

00:40:35So I'm definitely not there yet.

00:40:36Yeah.

00:40:37But working up there, but I go to Trader Joe's and that's...

00:40:40Trader Joe's is a little more pared down version.

00:40:42Yeah, they don't have as much stuff to pick from.

00:40:44Yeah, it's much easier to handle.

00:40:46Even just the regular grocery store, I was just so lost.

00:40:48I was like, what the fuck am I doing in here?

00:40:50So I went back out and sat in the car for a few minutes and gathered my thoughts, called

00:40:55all of my family.

00:40:55And the only one that answered was my nephew, mind you.

00:40:58My 12-year-old nephew was the only one that answered and told me what to do in the grocery

00:41:02store.

00:41:02I'm not kidding you.

00:41:03He's great.

00:41:04He cooks.

00:41:04Like he's a Southern boy, so he really cooks.

00:41:07Oh, wow.

00:41:07He can like make his own hollandaise sauce and poach eggs and shit.

00:41:10Oh my God, that's incredible.

00:41:12I don't even know how to like cook chicken.

00:41:15This kid can fucking do anything.

00:41:17Okay, so now you're cooking.

00:41:18What have you made?

00:41:21Very basic stuff.

00:41:22I did like salmon with zucchini and Brussels sprouts.

00:41:28Okay.

00:41:29And then asparagus, rice, chicken.

00:41:32I don't know, just really basic stuff.

00:41:33Oh, I made a pot roast the other day.

00:41:35Yeah, and it was really cool because a pot roast usually takes fucking forever.

00:41:38But I made it in a pressure cooker.

00:41:40It literally only took an hour and it was so good.

00:41:43Yep.

00:41:44I used like all fresh herbs too, rosemary and thyme and stuff.

00:41:47I was so proud of myself, Holly.

00:41:48That's amazing.

00:41:49I fucked up one thing.

00:41:50I didn't cut the potatoes.

00:41:51I had the little baby red potatoes and I didn't cut them in half.

00:41:54Yeah.

00:41:54But other than that, it was fucking perfect.

00:41:57You know what's great?

00:41:58My mom actually used to be a horrible cook, horrible, horrible cook.

00:42:02And my sister bought her, for Christmas one year, she bought her the Barefoot Contessa

00:42:07cookbook.

00:42:08And after that, my mom got really into cooking and bought a lot more cookbooks.

00:42:12Now my mom's actually a great cook.

00:42:14But the Barefoot Contessa, she's a whole bunch of different books.

00:42:17They're all pretty simple recipes, but they're all really good.

00:42:21I just got the first one.

00:42:24There's two Chrissy Teigen's Cravings.

00:42:26Okay.

00:42:26I got the first one and they're simple recipes.

00:42:30Yeah.

00:42:30And it's really good.

00:42:31That's the thing.

00:42:31You got to go for the books with the more...

00:42:33Because there are some that are really complex.

00:42:36I feel like cookbooks used to be so complex, so much work that you never even wanted to

00:42:42attempt to tackle them.

00:42:43But now people are really coming out with much easier recipes, much simpler stuff, less

00:42:49ingredients, that kind of stuff.

00:42:51If I look at it and it's got more than 10, 15 ingredients, I'm like, nah, fuck that.

00:42:57Have you ever thought about trying Blue Apron?

00:42:59Yes, actually.

00:43:00I was looking.

00:43:00There's a couple of different ones now.

00:43:02Blue Apron, I think, was the first, but there's a couple of different ones now.

00:43:06Have you tried them?

00:43:07Yes.

00:43:07I really liked Blue Apron.

00:43:08I don't do it anymore right now just because I just don't have the time.

00:43:12And honestly, my boyfriend does all the cooking.

00:43:14My boyfriend's an excellent cook, which is great.

00:43:17So he literally makes me dinner every night.

00:43:19It's really nice.

00:43:21But when I used it, I really did like it because the recipes weren't too complicated.

00:43:26And they send you everything that you need.

00:43:28And it's great, too, because they'll pick recipes with these kind of exotic ingredients

00:43:33that are difficult for you to find.

00:43:34You'd have to go to some Japanese supermarket to get it.

00:43:37Then you'd have to buy a huge bag of it, and you'd only use a tiny amount.

00:43:41And then it would sit in your spice cabinet for fucking five years

00:43:45and calcify before you throw it away.

00:43:48Gives you the exact amount that you need.

00:43:50So it's like you don't even necessarily really have to measure stuff out.

00:43:52That's great.

00:43:53Yeah.

00:43:53Yeah, I need to try that.

00:43:54I would highly recommend it.

00:43:55I need to try that because I've been really into it lately.

00:43:58I think your fans who are listening should buy it for you for Christmas.

00:44:04I don't know if that means that they have to have your address.

00:44:07Well, my fan mail address.

00:44:08Okay, but I don't know if the thing is they deliver food.

00:44:11So are they going to take it to your post box?

00:44:15Okay, how about this?

00:44:16Send her money so she can subscribe to it herself.

00:44:19Well, a couple of my fans know my address.

00:44:21Okay, well, then there you go.

00:44:22A couple of them, they've been with me through everything, through sick and fun.

00:44:25Yeah, I mean, that's the thing.

00:44:26Like some people think that like porn fans are all weird and creepy and gross,

00:44:30but that's not true.

00:44:31Some of my fans are my best friends.

00:44:33Yeah, some of them are really lovely people, and they just want to support you.

00:44:38Because they watch porn like fucking everybody else on this planet,

00:44:41but they're not ashamed to admit it, and they're not ashamed

00:44:44to support the girls that they like, and they believe that they should contribute

00:44:49to their career.

00:44:50They see us as humans, you know what I mean?

00:44:52At the end of the day, yeah, we are porn stars, but we're also humans at the end of the day.

00:44:58Seriously, I have two in specific fans of mine that are like,

00:45:02they've been my best friends for the past 10 years.

00:45:04I talk to them all the time.

00:45:05They have my real phone number.

00:45:06They text me all kinds of shit.

00:45:08I mean, they're respectful, but I talk to them all the time.

00:45:11Yeah, I mean, Dani Daniels, she had a girl that started off as her fan that became a friend,

00:45:16and she was a bridesmaid at her wedding.

00:45:18Oh, that's right.

00:45:18Yeah.

00:45:19Yeah.

00:45:19So I mean, you never know.

00:45:21Yeah.

00:45:21Don't get too hopeful, guys.

00:45:24Exactly.

00:45:26There's some people that just like, yeah.

00:45:28I had like, actually, I don't even want to say, because if I mention him, then he'll...

00:45:31It's going to trigger it?

00:45:33Yeah, it'll give him attention.

00:45:35I know exactly what you mean.

00:45:36That I don't want to give him because I've been ignoring a lot of things that he's written to me.

00:45:41I was trying to explain this exact concept to someone the other day.

00:45:44They were like, just tell them to go away.

00:45:45And I'm like, that doesn't work.

00:45:48That's just adding fuel to the flame.

00:45:50That's all it's doing.

00:45:51It's fanning it.

00:45:52Like, nah, you just have to act like they don't exist and get them to go away little by little

00:45:56that way.

00:45:57But the minute you stoke that fire, right back at it.

00:46:00Yeah, that's the thing.

00:46:01It's funny.

00:46:02I kind of learned that early on in my career.

00:46:05Because when I first started, I was so desperate for the idea of a fan.

00:46:09Like, oh my god.

00:46:10You know what I mean?

00:46:11And being a producer and someone who works behind the camera, I wasn't necessarily getting,

00:46:15accruing a big fan base, like somebody in front of the camera would.

00:46:19Because people don't really ever look at the photographer or the director.

00:46:23Or they don't see my face so much.

00:46:25Blah, blah, blah.

00:46:26So when I first got my first fan, I was really excited.

00:46:31And they would write to me.

00:46:32And I would write them back.

00:46:33And we would have this conversation.

00:46:35And I had these two guys that got very weird on me.

00:46:40One of them found out I had a boyfriend.

00:46:43I think I mentioned it in an email.

00:46:44This was before social media, by the way.

00:46:47And he basically went apeshit on me.

00:46:49And he was like, I can't believe that you're dating somebody.

00:46:52I thought we were meant for each other.

00:46:55Like, this guy lived in Australia.

00:46:57Like, of course we'd never met.

00:46:59And he was like, I can't believe you would betray me like that.

00:47:02Blah, blah, blah.

00:47:02And I'm just like, dude, I don't even know you.

00:47:07Like, at all.

00:47:07Like, I thought we were.

00:47:08And I feel like I didn't think that any of our correspondence was ever on that kind of deep level.

00:47:14I didn't feel any sexual tension there.

00:47:17I didn't feel like there was anything super intimate in our correspondence.

00:47:20But apparently he did.

00:47:23And then there was this other guy who, same thing.

00:47:28He got a little too attached.

00:47:31And then one day he told me that, I'm only laughing because this isn't true.

00:47:36He told me that he was dying of a rare disease.

00:47:40And his last dream in life would be to meet me.

00:47:44Like a Make-A-Wish Foundation kind of shit, right?

00:47:47So I was like, uh.

00:47:48Imagine if we had one of those for adult entertainers.

00:47:51I know, right?

00:47:53Meet your favorite porn star before you die.

00:47:54Oh my god.

00:47:56If we had our own version of Make-A-Wish.

00:47:58Oh my god, that'd be so good.

00:48:01Yeah, I mean, the thing is, he wasn't fucking dying.

00:48:03And I'll tell you why.

00:48:04Well, so anyway.

00:48:06So and I'm like, well, what is it?

00:48:08Like, do you have cancer?

00:48:09He was like, oh, it's a rare disease.

00:48:10And the doctors can't figure it out.

00:48:12I'm like, okay, fucking bullshit, right?

00:48:14So then he was like, okay, I want to come out and visit you.

00:48:17Can I come stay with you?

00:48:18And I was like, absolutely not.

00:48:20Sure, buddy.

00:48:21Yeah, I'm like, look.

00:48:22Come on in.

00:48:23You know, again, this is at the very early stages.

00:48:26I still was excited about the idea of having a fan.

00:48:28I didn't want to hurt this guy's feelings.

00:48:30I didn't understand about establishing boundaries.

00:48:32Totally.

00:48:33And I was like, look.

00:48:34And I didn't know how to say it.

00:48:36Because today, I'd be like, go fuck yourself, dude.

00:48:38But back then, I was like, oh, I don't want to be mean.

00:48:41He's been so nice.

00:48:43And he's the only fan that I have.

00:48:44And I don't want to lose a fan.

00:48:47And so I was like, look, I don't want to be mean.

00:48:50I'm sure you're a wonderful guy.

00:48:51But I can't have you stay at my house.

00:48:52I don't know you.

00:48:53I live alone.

00:48:55You know, it's just not a good thing.

00:48:57Maybe you can get a hotel room.

00:49:01And maybe we could have lunch or something.

00:49:02I was like, I'll meet him somewhere for lunch, right?

00:49:06Yeah.

00:49:06And he got very upset.

00:49:09And he was like, I don't understand what kind of person you think I am.

00:49:12Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:49:13So he just went ape shit.

00:49:15So I was like, OK, dude.

00:49:16I cut off communication with him.

00:49:18So whatever.

00:49:21I don't hear from him for a little bit.

00:49:22And this is when we had the studio.

00:49:23Office of Pulpita.

00:49:25And we had a landline with an answering machine.

00:49:29And we never, and still to this day, I almost never shoot on weekends.

00:49:33I really try to leave them open.

00:49:35So we get into the studio on a Monday or a Tuesday.

00:49:40And I check the messages.

00:49:41And there are several from him.

00:49:43And he's like, hey, I'm outside your studio.

00:49:48What?

00:49:49Yep.

00:49:49He found the studio.

00:49:50Because it wasn't that hard.

00:49:51If you looked up Suze Randall photography, it wasn't too hard to find the studio.

00:49:56Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:49:57No, it wasn't cool.

00:49:58And he's like, I'm outside the studio.

00:50:00I can't wait to meet you.

00:50:01I knocked, and nobody answered.

00:50:03So I figured I'll just wait here until someone arrives.

00:50:07And I was like, and then the next message was, hey, I've been here for a while.

00:50:11I haven't seen anybody.

00:50:13Hope you guys are coming in.

00:50:15Can't wait to meet you.

00:50:16And obviously, nobody ever showed up.

00:50:19And so he ended up having to fly home.

00:50:22And I was just like, holy shit.

00:50:24That scared me.

00:50:25Yeah, that's scary.

00:50:26Yeah.

00:50:26And then he emailed me.

00:50:29And he was like, I went to your studio.

00:50:30And I was like, yeah, you can't do that.

00:50:32That's not OK.

00:50:32And then he freaked out, was like, I'm dying.

00:50:35I hope you know that I'm going to go to my grave miserable because you couldn't grant

00:50:39me this one wish, blah, blah, blah.

00:50:41And I'm like, I'm sorry you're dying.

00:50:42Have a nice death.

00:50:44See you later.

00:50:45And then six months later, I get an email from him.

00:50:48Hey, how you doing?

00:50:49Just wanted to say hi.

00:50:50I haven't talked to you in a while.

00:50:51I'm like, I thought you were dead.

00:50:53What happened to your dull, dying things?

00:50:55And then I never heard from him again.

00:50:57But yeah, that was before I realized that you have to establish boundaries with some

00:51:00people because some people are just not healthy.

00:51:04And they are lonely.

00:51:06And you know, I mean, I remember when I was drinking a lot, I wrote Ryan Seacrest an email.

00:51:14This is before he became like super.

00:51:16Oh my god, this is so good.

00:51:17This is before he became super famous.

00:51:19I think he like hosted The Soup for like a couple episodes.

00:51:23And I just thought he was so great.

00:51:24And I don't remember how I got his info, but I like sent him an email or something.

00:51:30And I was like, hi, I really like want to get to know you.

00:51:35And like, and I was like upset that he didn't get back to me.

00:51:39Holly, that's so good though.

00:51:40It's so good.

00:51:42Ryan Seacrest of all people.

00:51:44Like who today like I could care less about this guy.

00:51:47Like I don't know what I was thinking.

00:51:49It's so good.

00:51:50This is very weird.

00:51:50I also sort of, this is so embarrassing.

00:51:54I don't know why we're getting off on this tangent.

00:51:55But I sort of stalked this professor who was on a lot of like historical documentaries

00:52:02about like the medieval times.

00:52:04Because I'm like into professors.

00:52:06You're like e-stalking him?

00:52:08Yeah.

00:52:08So I saw him.

00:52:10He was like, you know, when you watch like those documentaries about like history and

00:52:15you have certain experts that come on and they talk about it.

00:52:18And he was a professor and he was kind of young and he was sort of cute.

00:52:21And I was like, oh, and I was drinking.

00:52:24Like I said, I was drinking a lot at this time.

00:52:26And I was like, this guy's kind of cute.

00:52:28I'm going to like hit him up.

00:52:29I found his information.

00:52:31And I emailed him and I was like, hey, I'm a fan.

00:52:36Did he respond though?

00:52:37Oh, yes, he did.

00:52:40Because I told him who I was.

00:52:42I told him what I did.

00:52:43And he was like very excited that like someone who worked in porn.

00:52:47Because I think like, you know, the fan.

00:52:49Because I even said to him, I'm like, you probably get like some fangirls that write

00:52:52too.

00:52:52And I'm sorry, I'm embarrassed.

00:52:54And he does.

00:52:55But he was like, yeah, none of them are like you.

00:52:57And then we like started flirting and stuff.

00:52:59And then I was like, okay, this is ridiculous.

00:53:02Like and then I just stopped.

00:53:03You have to imagine his world is completely different.

00:53:06Yeah.

00:53:06Like the exact opposite.

00:53:07But I was like straight up like fan stocking some like medieval, like expert professor

00:53:13guys.

00:53:15Have you ever done anything like that?

00:53:17I'm sure I have.

00:53:18You're like, no, Holly, I haven't.

00:53:20Just you.

00:53:20There's this one artist who I harass on Twitter nonstop.

00:53:23And it's been going on for years now.

00:53:25Really?

00:53:25Yeah.

00:53:26She like actually, I think when I first started harassing her, she only had like,

00:53:31like 30,000 followers or something like that.

00:53:33So I was like, oh, fuck.

00:53:33Yeah, it's a shoe in.

00:53:34I got way more than her.

00:53:35Now she's got like a million or something.

00:53:37Who is it?

00:53:38Excuse me.

00:53:39Grimes.

00:53:40I don't know if you know that is.

00:53:42She's like a pop artist.

00:53:44Okay.

00:53:44Like.

00:53:45Did she respond to you?

00:53:46No, she never responds.

00:53:48She likes my tweets every once in a while because I just say stupid shit to her.

00:53:51Yeah.

00:53:51Like, okay.

00:53:52So she's super like, I don't know, whatever.

00:53:54Vegan, eco-friendly, whatever you want to call it.

00:53:57I don't know what her label for it is.

00:53:59Anyways, one day she posted something about not eating eggs.

00:54:02And I was like, goddamn it.

00:54:03I've been rooting for you to be teen lesbo this whole time.

00:54:06She's like, what the fuck?

00:54:08Just weird ass shit.

00:54:10I'm just constantly trolling her.

00:54:12So you understand her need to establish boundaries with you.

00:54:16This has been going on for a good five years and it's probably never going to stop.

00:54:20Grimes, I love you.

00:54:22I'm obsessed with her.

00:54:24So see, people, even we can be weird fangirls and totally harass other people.

00:54:29Hell yeah.

00:54:30That's so funny.

00:54:31Drop the album, sis.

00:54:33Do it.

00:54:34I love her.

00:54:35So you have been only a girl-girl performer for the last 12 years.

00:54:41How has that been for you?

00:54:42Have you ever felt pressure to do boy-girl?

00:54:44Because by this time, you're one of the few girls I know.

00:54:48There was a bunch of girl-girl performers around your time that were pretty successful.

00:54:55And you used to be able to make a living as a girl-girl performer only easily.

00:55:01Easily.

00:55:02Even just solo.

00:55:04My whole first year, I didn't think I did any video.

00:55:09No, I think I started doing solo video towards the end of my first year.

00:55:13But before that, it was just pictures, magazine stuff.

00:55:15I could make a whole living just doing that.

00:55:18I know.

00:55:18It's crazy because girls will sometimes write to me like,

00:55:20hey, I'm interested in getting into the porn industry, but I only want to shoot solos.

00:55:24I'm like, nope.

00:55:25There's no work.

00:55:27I'm so sorry, but there's literally no work for you.

00:55:29Good luck.

00:55:30Yeah, I can't.

00:55:32Maybe you can cam and do that thing, produce your own content,

00:55:35but I have nobody to shoot you for it.

00:55:38Even the Twisties Treats girls, they do girl-girl or boy-girl.

00:55:42It's part of the package.

00:55:44Nowadays, I can't even tell you the last solo day I was booked for.

00:55:48It's always combined.

00:55:49You do some solo and then girl-girl or something like that.

00:55:54I honestly can't even tell you that my last solo day.

00:55:57Other than customs, you know what I mean?

00:56:00But like professional.

00:56:03So yeah, how have you managed to just hold on to the girl-girl only?

00:56:07Very carefully.

00:56:09It's been hard.

00:56:10It's actually been really hard because, well, like for instance,

00:56:14I've always been very open about being bi.

00:56:16I'm not a lesbian.

00:56:17I like cock too.

00:56:19I'm sorry if that offends some of you, but I know it does.

00:56:23I've kind of gotten to the point now where I just don't give a fuck.

00:56:25I used to try to like dance around it a little bit just to be nice,

00:56:28but in my old age, I'm just like, you know what?

00:56:32Fucking embrace that shit.

00:56:33Get over it.

00:56:34I've never once said that I'm straight gay.

00:56:36Never.

00:56:36I've always held to it that I'm extremely bi girl.

00:56:41So it's been difficult with that because there's been a lot of like,

00:56:44for instance, there's a lot of roles that I've wanted to be able to play

00:56:48or to be in certain scenes just to have a creative release,

00:56:52to be able to act those out.

00:56:54And it requires a girl that does boy-girl.

00:56:57So that's been probably the hardest part for me.

00:57:00There were really big roles that I've always wanted,

00:57:02but it recalled for someone who did boy-girl.

00:57:04So it was very difficult for me.

00:57:05That and also the money.

00:57:06I was going to say people probably offered you quite a bit of money.

00:57:09I've been offered a lot of money, a lot of money just for one scene.

00:57:14And so that's also very difficult because I like money.

00:57:17I really like money.

00:57:19So that's been very hard as well.

00:57:23But when it comes down to it,

00:57:27a big part of me really just does it for my fans,

00:57:30the ones that have been with me for so long,

00:57:31because not many girls hold out and only do girl-girl their career.

00:57:36So it makes it, I don't know.

00:57:38It's stupid, but it makes it special for them for whatever reason.

00:57:42Nothing that I necessarily agree with,

00:57:44but because they've been with me for so long,

00:57:46they've supported me for so long.

00:57:48That's kind of like something special I do for them, I guess.

00:57:50Right.

00:57:51So you feel a loyalty towards your fans?

00:57:52Oh, 100%.

00:57:53That's interesting.

00:57:54Some of my fans have been with me through thick and thin.

00:57:57They've brought me out of like depression holes that I've been in before.

00:58:02Like single-handedly, my fans did that.

00:58:04You know what I mean?

00:58:04Incredible that you can have that kind of connection with these people.

00:58:07I think we're actually starting to answer the reason why

00:58:10you have such a cultish fan base.

00:58:12I love my fans.

00:58:12I think this is starting to unravel in this conversation.

00:58:15I'm just as much their fan as they are mine.

00:58:18Like I love these people.

00:58:20If I see...

00:58:21Okay, for instance, in particular,

00:58:23recently there was a new person in the Teen GJ fan group, right?

00:58:27And they were cool.

00:58:28I liked them.

00:58:29But then they started picking on one of the people

00:58:30that's been like one of my number one fans for so long.

00:58:33And I instantly put a stop to that.

00:58:34I was like, oh, hell no.

00:58:36Not about to happen on my watch.

00:58:37I do have favorites.

00:58:39They have seniority.

00:58:40They've been with me for over a decade now,

00:58:42and you're not going to say that to that person.

00:58:44So either be nice, play nice like adults,

00:58:48or get the step in.

00:58:50I set those hard line boundaries, right?

00:58:52I really love my fans.

00:58:54That's amazing.

00:58:55I think that's a big part of it.

00:58:56It's a give and take.

00:58:56Yeah.

00:58:57You know what I mean?

00:58:57Yeah.

00:58:58And then, I don't know, is there a part of you,

00:59:00do you think you'll ever do Boy Girl?

00:59:02Or do you think there's just a part of you

00:59:03that's just like, fuck.

00:59:04Because when you do it, it's done.

00:59:06Yeah.

00:59:06Like it's out there, and you can't take it back.

00:59:09Honestly...

00:59:09And you can't reverse that decision.

00:59:13If and when...

00:59:14I've been dancing with the idea of doing it for my site.

00:59:17Just for my website.

00:59:19Or even just customs.

00:59:21You know what I mean?

00:59:22Because I have a person that I would perform with, I guess.

00:59:27Yeah.

00:59:28My significant other.

00:59:30But it would be, I don't know, it'd be really expensive,

00:59:34I think, if someone wanted to see that.

00:59:36It would be...

00:59:37I remember when Jelena Jensen did her first Boy Girl,

00:59:40she did it live.

00:59:42On her site?

00:59:42Yeah.

00:59:43So that people couldn't steal it.

00:59:45That's great.

00:59:46Which was pretty smart.

00:59:47Yeah, that's really cool.

00:59:47Yeah.

00:59:48Well, but there's ways of recording live now.

00:59:50That was back when it was a little harder, I think.

00:59:52That's true, that's true.

00:59:53But it's still...

00:59:54Yeah, and she recognized, obviously, that was the case.

00:59:56But it definitely made it all that more difficult to steal it.

00:59:59Totally.

01:00:00Yeah.

01:00:01And people would have to sign up for that moment at that time,

01:00:05since it was live.

01:00:06So she got a big jump of people.

01:00:10Yeah.

01:00:10I mean, it's definitely an idea that I've played with,

01:00:13just at least for in the customs world.

01:00:15You know what I mean?

01:00:15It should be so easy to do that.

01:00:17Yeah.

01:00:18But you're not sure.

01:00:20So it's not a definite no, it's just a, you don't know.

01:00:23Honestly...

01:00:24Right now, it's a no.

01:00:25The hardest part would just be to see my fans mourn it.

01:00:29That would be the hardest part for me.

01:00:30Which, I don't know if you've seen or not,

01:00:33I'm always very angry when people do that to the girl-girl performers that transition.

01:00:38Like when girl-girl performers,

01:00:39even if they've only been girl-girl only for a year or two,

01:00:41if they transition to boy-girl, they get so much hate on social media.

01:00:45And it makes me flip the fuck out every time.

01:00:47I'm like, fuck you, it's her body, do what she wants.

01:00:49And I think a big part of that is too,

01:00:51because I've always been playing with the idea.

01:00:53So I know that's going to happen to me.

01:00:55Right.

01:00:55Probably even on a bigger scale because I've been girl-girl for so long.

01:00:58Yeah.

01:00:59You know?

01:00:59And so that fucks with me.

01:01:00Knowing that I'm going to have to deal with that.

01:01:02But don't you think like your true fans would support you no matter what you do?

01:01:06Yes and no.

01:01:07Because I've definitely lost fans that were supposed to be like my,

01:01:12like people who literally had their walls plastered with me.

01:01:15And then all I did was post a picture of like me and like my brother.

01:01:19And they thought it was a boyfriend at the time.

01:01:21So they flipped out.

01:01:22And like the next thing I know,

01:01:23all of my memorabilia that they had made of me,

01:01:27books and posters and everything else is on fucking eBay.

01:01:30They're like, fuck you.

01:01:31I'm like, that's my brother.

01:01:32The fuck?

01:01:32Wow.

01:01:33Wow.

01:01:34Literally just a picture.

01:01:35Oh, at one time it was, I got a bunch of angry emails

01:01:40because I posted a picture on Instagram

01:01:42that literally just had a guy's leg draped over my lap.

01:01:45Wow.

01:01:46Couldn't even see him.

01:01:47You could just see that it was a hairy leg.

01:01:48I was going to say, well,

01:01:49how do they know it isn't your like dykey friend who doesn't like to shave?

01:01:53She just has a really bad pedicure.

01:01:55Yeah.

01:01:56I mean, you don't know.

01:01:57Like literally it could have been a mannequin leg for all they know.

01:02:00Yeah.

01:02:01But they just flipped out.

01:02:02Like I got all these mean, angry, drunk emails and stuff.

01:02:06Interesting the way that people think they kind of own you and your decisions.

01:02:09Yes.

01:02:10It's very much like you were talking about the guy was saying,

01:02:12how dare you betray me whenever he found out you had a boyfriend.

01:02:15It's very much that.

01:02:16It's like people from all over the world and they're sending me these hate emails.

01:02:19And I'm like, I've exchanged tweets with you a couple of times.

01:02:24Like what are you talking about?

01:02:26Like am I just not supposed to have happiness?

01:02:28Fuck you.

01:02:28Yeah.

01:02:29Fuck you very much.

01:02:30Yeah.

01:02:31Yeah.

01:02:31It's kind of nuts.

01:02:32I think I cared more when I was younger.

01:02:34Right.

01:02:34Really gotten to the point where I just don't give a shit anymore.

01:02:37It's like, it's your life.

01:02:38Love the bad girl or get the fuck out.

01:02:40Yeah.

01:02:42I post pictures now of like people I'm in a relationship with.

01:02:45And this was a big step for me.

01:02:47Yeah.

01:02:47It was a really big step for me.

01:02:48Yeah.

01:02:50Because just for so long I'd received so much hate for it.

01:02:52And now I'm still getting hate.

01:02:53I just, it rolls off easier because I just got experience dealing with it.

01:02:58I've got such thick skin now.

01:03:00So.

01:03:00Right.

01:03:01It's liberating to be able to do that too.

01:03:03Yeah.

01:03:03You want to be able to like share the aspects of your life you want to be able to share.

01:03:07Exactly.

01:03:07Yeah.

01:03:07People can't dictate to you like how you're going to live your life.

01:03:10Exactly.

01:03:11They think they can.

01:03:12Yeah.

01:03:12And I think also because I went along with that for so long

01:03:16that it kind of made them feel like they could do that.

01:03:20I don't know.

01:03:20Yeah.

01:03:21I hear you.

01:03:21So now it's like I'm backtracking.

01:03:23I'm having to like, I know this sounds silly, but like retrain them.

01:03:27Yeah.

01:03:28To think a different way.

01:03:29Yeah.

01:03:29Like you can love me either way.

01:03:31It's cool.

01:03:31It's break free.

01:03:32You can still jack off to me.

01:03:35It's cool.

01:03:35It's totally cool.

01:03:37In fact, please do.

01:03:38Thank you.

01:03:40Pay for it while you're at it.

01:03:42That's great.

01:03:43Oh my God.

01:03:44So, you know, it's what are you gonna do?

01:03:47Yeah, exactly.

01:03:48A lot of them will, if I just don't respond,

01:03:52they'll send me another email back like a week or two later and apologize.

01:03:56That's good.

01:03:58Some of them, they're just gone forever.

01:04:00And I guess good riddance, honestly.

01:04:02Yeah.

01:04:03New fans shall replace them.

01:04:04They probably weren't paying for anything anyway.

01:04:06Exactly.

01:04:08I was talking to Lilia Love about this, about how the people who want to micromanage your

01:04:13career the most or tell you how you should do things are generally people who are not

01:04:16paying members of your website.

01:04:18Exactly.

01:04:19So it's just like, no, you don't get to say that.

01:04:21That's stupid.

01:04:22Yeah, it's crazy.

01:04:24Well, Georgia, thank you so much for coming on.

01:04:26Thank you, Holly.

01:04:26It was so lovely to have you.

01:04:28I have some more fan questions for you, which I'm gonna ask you in our exclusive video

01:04:34podcast for Patreon.

01:04:36If you guys are a member of Patreon.com slash Holly Randall Unfiltered, you can go there

01:04:41to see that.

01:04:42But for the rest of you listening here on your audio podcast platforms, Georgia, can

01:04:49you tell them where they can find you online?

01:04:51Go plug all your pluggables.

01:04:53All my shit, y'all.

01:04:54Buy my shit.

01:04:56You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at XOGeorgiaJones.

01:05:00I'm on Snapchat, but you have to email me in order to get that.

01:05:05It's not free.

01:05:06Bookbadgirl at Gmail.

01:05:08I'm also on camsoda.com slash Georgia Jones.

01:05:13Saxpanther as well.

01:05:14I don't know.

01:05:15My website, duh, badgirljones.com.

01:05:18I've got so much shit.

01:05:21My business card is a fucking sheet.

01:05:22I know.

01:05:23It's crazy how many different platforms and streams of revenue we have to all have in

01:05:27order to survive.

01:05:28I have to.

01:05:28That's the thing.

01:05:29I have to have all of these hustles, but it's good.

01:05:31I really still enjoy it.

01:05:33I really do.

01:05:33It's nice to be able to do it all from home too.

01:05:36It's great.

01:05:37That's really fun to not drive anywhere in LA traffic.

01:05:40I was just going to say, in LA traffic.

01:05:42LA traffic, it's so fucking bad.

01:05:45So on mornings when I get to just stay home, it's like, no brainer.

01:05:49This is easy.

01:05:50Of course.

01:05:51It's crazy.

01:05:52And you guys can find me at Holly Randall on Twitter and Instagram.

01:05:56And then like I just said, join my Patreon, hollyrandall.com slash Holly Randall.

01:06:01No, fuck, dude.

01:06:02That's my website.

01:06:03Join my website, hollyrandall.com.

01:06:05Do that.

01:06:06Do that because that's where I post all my professional videos and pictures that I take.

01:06:13And then I actually started a new Patreon called patreon.com slash hollyrandallart

01:06:18where I'm actually producing only soft core erotic art nude stuff.

01:06:24So it's not porn.

01:06:25It's very artistic.

01:06:27And I'm hoping that I can get some support behind that because I kind of miss

01:06:30the days of shooting that kind of stuff.

01:06:33I love shooting porn.

01:06:34It's great.

01:06:34But I'd love to be able to shoot some erotic art as well.

01:06:36I'm actually trying to fund a book.

01:06:38I was going to say you.

01:06:39I don't know why you haven't done a book yet.

01:06:41I have actually four books out by Goliath Publishing.

01:06:44Okay.

01:06:44But they picked all the pictures.

01:06:47I didn't pick any of them.

01:06:48You didn't have creative direction or whatever?

01:06:50Absolutely none.

01:06:51They wouldn't let me put like black and white in there.

01:06:53Is Goliath a good publishing company?

01:06:54Yeah, they are a good publishing company.

01:06:56And I'm very happy to have published with them.

01:06:59I'm very honored that they would put out my books.

01:07:01But I do want to do one that is all my own and is completely creatively directed by me.

01:07:07And I'd love to shoot stuff specifically for that.

01:07:10Totally.

01:07:11Little less commercial type porn, which is what I shoot right now.

01:07:15So I'd really like to be able to focus specifically on erotic art and

01:07:19kind of come into the project with a different mindset and a different vision.

01:07:24Patreon.com slash Holly Randall art to support that.

01:07:27Patreon.com slash Holly Randall and filter to support this podcast and to

01:07:32watch the next set of questions that I'm going to ask Georgia for the fan section.

01:07:36Thank you guys so much for listening.

01:07:38We will see you next week.

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