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00:00And I arrived in Milan and they asked me what number I wanted, and I, without thinking about it, said 6 if possible, but as soon as I sent the message to my team manager, I said, wait Laura, there's a problem here, you're in Milan, the number 6 jersey belongs to Franco Baresi, the great Franco Baresi, and the jersey has been withdrawn, that is, no surname can be associated with the number 6.
00:28I panicked. I played as an attacker when I was little, I scored a lot of goals, of course, one year I scored like 30.
00:36And the Maschietti there, how did they enjoy it?
00:38Well, I was lucky, because you can see that, since it was a team that was really racketed, I mean, I'm not saying I was one of the strongest, but we were close, so when I played, they were all happy, so they treated me well.
00:51If someone was threatening me with other kids, they defended me.
00:59New episode of Unlocking Room, Amici Rossoneri, we're back with a special guest, Laura Fusetti, welcome.
01:06Hi, thank you very much for this invitation.
01:09First representative of our women's team, a career that has come to an end, another that has started, in short, from the 24-25 season, team manager of the Primavera Femminile team.
01:20Tell us a little about this passage, this mix of emotions between the two careers in the same world.
01:26Well, of course, I still have to understand it well, because I certainly didn't fully realize it.
01:32Let's say it was a while ago that I thought the sad moment for all footballers and players would come.
01:40But I was lucky to have this opportunity from Milan, from the company that proposed to me to become the team manager of the Primavera.
01:51So, on the one hand, I'm sorry because I've been playing football for 20 years, but on the other hand, I'm very, very excited and happy to start a new adventure, but above all to stay in Milan, which is what I was hoping for.
02:06Fuso, when and how did the idea of quitting come about? Because, let's say, you were still doing very well, you could still do it for another couple of years.
02:17Well, let's say it's a thought that has come to me at least a year ago.
02:25The level of women's football has increased, the intensity has increased, but above all there are many young, very strong and promising players.
02:36And on the other hand, there are more and more foreigners who come and bring a lot of experience and therefore increase the level of our football even more.
02:48If I have to think with my heart, I think I would have closed my eyes, my ears, anything.
02:58I would have fought until the end. On the other hand, in my opinion, you have to reason, you have to use your head and understand that perhaps it is right to conclude when you are still at a certain level.
03:13So, I didn't want to ruin what I was lucky enough to build in all the past years.
03:19You talked about young people, there was a strong image, your passing of number 6, which we'll talk about later, because it's a number that you've only worn here in the last few years.
03:30A few years have passed since the goodbye of Baresi.
03:33Anadine Sorelli, then I ask you, without putting pressure on her, because she's still a young girl.
03:39Your passing of the shirt, young Italians growing up, how is she?
03:43I am very happy to have passed the number 6 shirt to Anadine because I think she is an excellent player.
03:55She can still improve a lot, but she reflects a bit what my characteristics were.
04:01She's gritty, she always gives her best, she never gives up, she never gives up.
04:06So, by now I was in love with the number 6, especially because I had the honor of wearing it.
04:13So, I said, it will be hard to see it on someone else, but I am really happy that she has it.
04:21So, I wish her the best and to get rid of a lot of satisfactions.
04:25How did you communicate with her? How did this idea come about?
04:30And her reaction when she discovered this gift from you?
04:33So, I have no idea, I don't know if she knew before that moment.
04:38I had already known about this passage for a week and I saw her quite excited.
04:45I don't know if it was also because she was in front of everyone, there was also our president Scaroni.
04:51But she kept saying thank you, thank you.
04:54She was happy.
04:56Then, for sure, for her to make her debut in the first team is one of the first successes.
05:02Because she has been in the youth sector of Milan for many years.
05:07She was the captain of the Primavera that gave us the joy of winning the championship.
05:11So, it was already a period full of emotions for her.
05:15So, it was already a period full of emotions for her.
05:19I am happy for her because I think she deserves it.
05:22Instead, I ask you, no, first I ask you this question.
05:25Next to Nadine Sorelli, in the Primavera scudetto final, there was another girl.
05:30And I saw her.
05:31Pomati maybe?
05:32Yes, yes.
05:33She won three scudetti with Milan.
05:36Last year she won the Under-15.
05:39This year the Primavera and two years ago the Under-17.
05:43So, all my scudetti she won.
05:45So, let's say that behind your back, as Italians, we are at ease.
05:49As defenders, see, that's why I said, I give up.
05:52Because I would say that we are well covered here at Milan.
05:55No, she too is very, very good, very strong.
05:58She is tactically intelligent.
06:01Also, let's say that at this age it is not yet taken for granted.
06:06And surely she too will get a lot of satisfaction.
06:09She is super young.
06:11So, the important thing is that she is calm and does it step by step.
06:15Even if she is the most brazen of the women's sector, of Milan.
06:19Instead, how did the fact come about that you were the first to take the 6 after Baresi?
06:25It is true that it was closed only for the first male team, but because there was no female one.
06:30In the sense, first female team, males are clearly the same level for us, right?
06:36And so, it's okay, in the youth sector, you can't play without a name, jump the 6.
06:42But in the first team, with the name above, the last one was Franco Baresi.
06:47How did you get this opportunity? How did you choose the 6?
06:50How did you take on this responsibility?
06:52So, I'll spoil you this thing.
06:55So, first of all, obviously, I've always played with the 6.
06:59Always, since I was little.
07:02And so, for me, it was a bit of a reference number.
07:05So much so that even in the national team, when the 6 was already occupied, I took the 16.
07:09In the sense, the 6 had to be there.
07:11And so, I arrived in Milan and they asked me what number I wanted.
07:15And I, without thinking about it, said the 6, if possible.
07:20But as soon as I sent the message to my team manager, I said, wait Laura, there's a problem here.
07:27If you're in Milan, the number 6 jersey belongs to Franco Baresi.
07:31The great Franco Baresi.
07:32And the jersey was withdrawn.
07:34That is, no surname can be associated with the number 6.
07:38Panic.
07:40Then I was told that they had asked Franco Baresi for permission, of course.
07:45Oh, well.
07:46Yes, rightly so.
07:47And he kindly granted this thing.
07:50So, thanks to him, I was able to use the number 6 jersey.
07:54The problem was then that one said, okay, I play with the number 6 jersey in Milan.
07:59It means that all Milanese fans now say, that is, if one already says, let's see how he plays.
08:05He says, let's see.
08:06He also took Baresi's number 6.
08:09Let's see how it is.
08:11So, I've always tried to give even more because I knew what the number 6 meant in Milan.
08:18Then I can say, at the very least, that I was able to do it.
08:22In the sense that I was able to at least honor that jersey and not make it disfigured.
08:30My curiosity, however, is whether you ever spoke to Franco directly.
08:33So, I met him.
08:35Let's say that at the beginning I never allowed myself.
08:40Then there was a day when it was his birthday.
08:46And our press said, look, do you want Baresi's number?
08:50So you wish him happy birthday.
08:52I say, yes, yes, of course, absolutely.
08:54And then from there, let's say that every year I wished him happy birthday.
08:58Then it was he who gave me the jersey of the 100 appearances.
09:02So, every time I saw him, I certainly didn't stop thanking him.
09:09Every time I remembered him for a message, to make myself recognized.
09:13Because it's not that one keeps the chats.
09:15That of the number 6.
09:16No, I mean, Laura Fusetti, the girl who plays with...
09:20Thanks to you, I was able to use the number 6 jersey.
09:24So, for me it's an honor.
09:26And every year, I think, for six years, the same jersey was found.
09:29In fact, that's why I stopped.
09:31Because after six years, if not, it was the seventh, the eighth, it didn't make sense.
09:35Laura, I have a flash.
09:37Let's go a little randomly in this chat.
09:40In which, under Casa Milan, it was known that that summer the female project was starting.
09:45I remember, under Casa Milan, I don't know if you were on that bus too.
09:49I see a bus from Brescia.
09:51Full of girls from Brescia who come to talk.
09:54Because, clearly, a t-shirt was bought.
09:56Were you on that bus?
09:58I wasn't on that bus, but if it wasn't that day, it was another.
10:01I said, I'll take the bus.
10:03They said, but you are the ones who will come to Milan.
10:06Because I read that you are also a defender.
10:09I was a little scared, I said, who is this crazy guy?
10:11And then, for those who don't know, the title of Brescia was bought.
10:15Which had already won a Scudetto, various Italian Cups.
10:18You come from that team, a glorious team.
10:20They played all the big ones.
10:22Practically, the Italian national team played all in that Brescia.
10:25I wonder, how was born the fact that the year before,
10:30maybe two years before, Juventus left?
10:32Or one? One, one, one.
10:33No, practically, the last year of Brescia was the first of Juventus.
10:37Exactly, a year before.
10:38But Brescia already had... Juventus had already won.
10:41Practically, when I arrived in Brescia.
10:43Brescia for two years was...
10:45Dismantled.
10:46Exactly, yes.
10:49I'll explain it to you right away.
10:50You are inside and you hear, ah, Milan wants to take Brescia.
10:53I imagine that...
10:54Let's calm down, I'm here.
10:55No, the reality is, on my part, I said,
10:57well, we're here because I, let's say, that year, I decided.
11:01I mean, I played at Como.
11:03Oh well, yes, Serie A, but we were always a little bit there,
11:06in the lower parts, here.
11:09And I said, I have to try to see if I'm really worth something.
11:14Because everyone told me,
11:15ah, if you played in Brescia, up and down.
11:18How old were you?
11:20Twenty-six, twenty-five, I think.
11:23And so I said, let's try.
11:25In the end, it went well for me.
11:27Because anyway, that year,
11:28unfortunately, we only won the Super Cup.
11:30Mr. Piovani, let's remember him.
11:31Exactly, yes.
11:32We only won the Super Cup,
11:34but we came to make the draw with Juve.
11:36Albiola di Novara, I remember.
11:38Exactly, exactly.
11:39And then, I mean, I was already very happy.
11:43Because anyway, I was taking away my satisfactions.
11:47On the other hand, Milan arrived,
11:49and I, inside of me, I say,
11:51it went well for me already,
11:53that Brescia called me now.
11:55I was so comfortable here.
11:57They had already told me that they were renewing me.
11:59And now, if I arrive in Milan,
12:01it's all to be redone.
12:03I mean, anyway, the level.
12:05I mean, it's a club that...
12:06But there, I imagine,
12:07the whole dressing room starts to say,
12:09oh, Milan, I'm going, you go, what are you doing?
12:11Above all, this arrives in Milan, what does it mean?
12:13I mean, you, concretely,
12:14as some Brescia managers have told you...
12:16So, actually, we found out
12:18very late, I mean,
12:20also because the president
12:22wanted to say it right before him.
12:24So, there were a few voices.
12:26So, we were talking, let's say, in small groups
12:28of two or three.
12:30And it has never been so
12:32blatant, declaring.
12:33Because, anyway, the president wanted us
12:35to communicate it first,
12:37and then, so on.
12:39So, maybe, the market timing,
12:41in quotation marks,
12:43has slipped a bit.
12:45So, it has been
12:47a bit of a difficult summer.
12:49I mean, difficult.
12:51Then, anyway, there were other requests,
12:53because we had...
12:54But everyone was waiting for Milan.
12:55So, look, I'm talking to you personally.
12:57I told everyone,
13:00as long as I haven't talked to Milan,
13:02I don't decide anything.
13:04I mean, because maybe, you know,
13:06there were other teams, everyone wanted it,
13:08I'll do it.
13:09As long as they don't call me,
13:10those of Milan, to talk,
13:12I don't move.
13:14Fortunately, the call came from Milan,
13:18so I...
13:19Who called you?
13:21But you know there are prosecutors,
13:23so I didn't...
13:25You talked to Casa Milan,
13:26if you came.
13:27Yes, I talked to Casa Milan, and...
13:29What was the feeling of entering Casa Milan?
13:31Well, think, I'm also close to Milan.
13:34I'm practically between Varese and Milan.
13:36And so, I'll always remember,
13:40I had to put on the navigator
13:41to get to Casa Milan,
13:43because I didn't know exactly where it was.
13:47And it was nice.
13:49Then there was also Bergamaschi with me,
13:52and we came here, we talked,
13:55and even in the interview I said,
13:57the sentence that I will always remember
13:59is this, I was told,
14:01Milan is not just a club,
14:03Milan is a family.
14:05And so then from there...
14:07But I ask you,
14:08women's football is above all...
14:10I'm talking about ten years ago,
14:12even if it's a little less.
14:13Is everything, being a bit of an amateur,
14:17always been family, or not?
14:20I mean, you know,
14:21where maybe there aren't
14:22great economic opportunities.
14:23That's for sure,
14:24that's for sure,
14:25because anyway,
14:26I mean, in the end,
14:27I played most of my years,
14:29and it was really like
14:30going to a second home,
14:32because I lived there,
14:34I knew everyone,
14:35even maybe with the management,
14:37I made that joke,
14:38that anyway,
14:39now times have changed,
14:41there's the joke,
14:42but there are the roles
14:43and everything to respect.
14:44And now you'd know something.
14:46Exactly, now I have to...
14:48I'm on the other side.
14:49A nanny.
14:50No, but Galari,
14:51there is no longer a nanny.
14:53When I was young,
14:54there was a nanny,
14:55and I suffered from it.
14:56Now that I'm old...
14:57You suffer from youth.
14:58There is no longer a nanny,
14:59so I'm screwed, basically.
15:01And so, for sure,
15:03for me,
15:04I've been in the teams
15:06where I've played,
15:07I've been there for many years,
15:08because anyway,
15:09if I feel good in a place,
15:11I don't see why I should change it.
15:13But for sure,
15:14when you go to a company like Milan,
15:17you expect that there are
15:18certain dynamics,
15:19so everything changes a bit,
15:20but rightly so.
15:21And so,
15:22to hear you say that sentence,
15:24you say,
15:25ah,
15:26so here it's not just...
15:28there's also something else.
15:29Anyway,
15:30the human aspect
15:31remains important,
15:32because you know,
15:33it's easy to say,
15:34I don't know,
15:35you come to this company,
15:37you're a number,
15:38because it's as if it were a company,
15:40which we would miss,
15:41it's like that.
15:42But,
15:43even in these six years
15:44that I've lived here in Milan,
15:46it's true,
15:47because in the end,
15:48you know everyone,
15:49there's just that sense of belonging.
15:51So,
15:52it was nice to see
15:53that even in such an important company,
15:55you can still feel at home.
15:58Let's take a step back,
15:59no,
16:00because Patri Baresi
16:01helps us reconnect
16:02to your childhood.
16:03Do you remember the beginnings?
16:04I mean,
16:05how you played,
16:06where the passion for football was born,
16:07the first seasons?
16:09Ok,
16:10so,
16:11first of all,
16:12I started playing football
16:13because my mom
16:14would kick me out of the house
16:16on a Sunday morning,
16:17and my dad would go play,
16:19he was still playing at the amateur level,
16:21and so,
16:22I would stay.
16:23Where?
16:24In the province of Varese,
16:28and so,
16:29on a Sunday morning,
16:30I would go out with my dad,
16:32and,
16:33well,
16:34there was a certain
16:35time when they would change,
16:36before,
16:37and after,
16:38and I was there,
16:39and I didn't know what to do,
16:40so,
16:41I would take the balls,
16:42and I would start kicking,
16:43and then,
16:44my dad's friends
16:45would be there,
16:46passing the ball to me,
16:47and so,
16:48that's when my curiosity started.
16:49Five or six years old?
16:51Yes,
16:52six or seven,
16:53maybe.
16:54And,
16:55well,
16:56then I went to my dad,
16:57and I said,
16:58dad,
16:59can we go to the oratory?
17:00At the oratory,
17:01near my house,
17:02there was this team,
17:03obviously,
17:04it was a boy's team,
17:05because at the time,
17:06it was called Carcor,
17:07and C,
17:08A,
17:09I don't remember
17:10the initials,
17:11and,
17:12and,
17:13nothing,
17:14it was just,
17:15I mean,
17:16the oratory,
17:17very quiet,
17:18and,
17:19You were already playing in defense,
17:20right away,
17:21or how do they put you,
17:22in the middle of the field?
17:23No,
17:24I played as an attacker,
17:25as a kid,
17:26I scored a lot of goals,
17:27of course,
17:28for a year,
17:29I scored,
17:30like,
17:3130.
17:32And the boys there,
17:33since it was a team
17:34that was really
17:35well-rounded,
17:36I mean,
17:37I'm not saying
17:38I was one of the strongest,
17:39but,
17:40we didn't lack much,
17:41so,
17:42when I played,
17:43they were all happy,
17:44so,
17:45if someone
17:46yelled at me,
17:47the other kids,
17:48they defended me,
17:49so,
17:50Did you have teammates,
17:51or were they all boys?
17:52No,
17:53all boys,
17:54only,
17:55the first time,
17:56maybe,
17:57there was a girl,
17:58but,
17:59poor girl,
18:00I mean,
18:01let's say,
18:02sometimes,
18:03they weren't really nice,
18:04so,
18:05I asked my dad
18:06to take me
18:07to the oratory,
18:08and he said,
18:09no,
18:10Laura,
18:11it's cold,
18:12let's wait until spring,
18:13just to warm up a bit,
18:14so,
18:15in spring,
18:16I said,
18:17dad,
18:18the time has come,
18:19let's go,
18:20he said,
18:21ok,
18:22I'll take you,
18:23so,
18:24that's where it started,
18:25I played until I was 13,
18:26which is the age
18:27you can play
18:28with the boys,
18:29then,
18:30Always in this team?
18:31Yes,
18:32always,
18:33yes,
18:34I stayed there
18:35all the time,
18:36and then,
18:37I went to Tradate,
18:38which was,
18:39I was lucky
18:40to have
18:4120 minutes away from home,
18:42a team that
18:43used to play
18:44in Serie A 2,
18:45which would be
18:46a bit like
18:47Bidia now,
18:48so,
18:49I was 13,
18:5014 years old,
18:51I waited until
18:52the 14th year of age,
18:53and from there,
18:54I started playing
18:55in the first team,
18:56so,
18:57then I played
18:58on Saturday
18:59with Primavera,
19:00and on Sunday
19:01I went with...
19:02How did the veterans
19:03treat you?
19:04I imagine,
19:05a 14-year-old girl
19:06with a 30-year-old...
19:07Yes,
19:08there were people,
19:09yes,
19:10even more than 30 years old,
19:11because then,
19:12once,
19:13maybe you had
19:14many more,
19:15then we were few,
19:16so,
19:17you kept
19:18those who were there,
19:19so,
19:20I was very lucky,
19:21I was very lucky
19:22because everyone
19:23helped me,
19:24so,
19:25my first coach
19:26was quite strict,
19:27but...
19:28She was famous,
19:29Maria Mariotti,
19:30she played
19:31in the national team,
19:32at the time,
19:33so,
19:34she also played
19:35with Morace,
19:36so,
19:37at the time,
19:38she was famous,
19:39and she was very strict,
19:40but then,
19:41with time,
19:42I think she did it
19:43because she saw
19:44something in me,
19:45so,
19:46she wanted to help me,
19:47and then,
19:48when we won
19:49the European Championship
19:50in 2008,
19:51she came
19:52to the airport
19:53together with
19:54my other relatives,
19:55my mom,
19:56my dad,
19:57and all my friends
19:58to say hello
19:59to me,
20:00that I was back,
20:01so,
20:02then,
20:03I understood that...
20:04So,
20:05no,
20:06I did,
20:07from 14
20:08to 18,
20:0919 years there,
20:10in Tradate,
20:11then,
20:12from Tradate,
20:13I went to Como,
20:14and there,
20:15I did two years of B,
20:16then we went up,
20:17and we always did
20:18there,
20:19and also in Como,
20:20I stayed
20:21nine years,
20:22practically.
20:23You are one
20:24who never betrays.
20:25No,
20:26exactly.
20:27So,
20:28how did you
20:29decide to
20:30do something
20:31very serious?
20:32So,
20:33actually,
20:34I had to wait
20:35until Brescia,
20:36because,
20:37you realize that
20:38even if we were
20:39in Serie A,
20:40anyway,
20:41we trained
20:42three days a week,
20:43in the evening,
20:44because everyone
20:45worked,
20:46so,
20:47if not,
20:48people...
20:49So,
20:50three days a week...
20:51It's a dream
20:52now that you train
20:53five days...
20:54No,
20:55three days a week...
20:56Actually,
20:57yes,
20:58maybe now,
20:59in Excellenza,
21:00they will train
21:01three times a week.
21:02More?
21:03Now,
21:04in Excellenza?
21:05Four,
21:06at least.
21:07Yes,
21:08in my opinion,
21:09someone who puts
21:10the fourth day
21:11in Excellenza...
21:12Yes,
21:13no,
21:14but,
21:15in fact,
21:16sometimes,
21:17jokingly,
21:18I was in
21:19Serie A,
21:20three training sessions.
21:21So,
21:22there,
21:23let's say,
21:24I kept doing it,
21:25but I was already cold.
21:26Did you study at that time?
21:27Yes,
21:28I studied,
21:29because,
21:30obviously,
21:31my parents always told me,
21:32it's okay,
21:33play football,
21:34you like it,
21:35we'll do whatever you want,
21:36but you have to study,
21:37you have to...
21:38So,
21:39I did
21:40scientific high school
21:41and then
21:42linguistics
21:43and then
21:44I went to
21:45university
21:46and I graduated
21:47in science and technology
21:48of restoration.
21:49Yes,
21:50so much so
21:51that I...
21:52Is it a second career,
21:53let's say,
21:54or did you...
21:55So,
21:56the truth is that
21:57I've always liked to eat.
21:58So,
21:59first you have to cook.
22:00So,
22:01you have to understand
22:02how it works,
22:03the production chains.
22:04No,
22:05referring to your question,
22:06when I started
22:07to understand
22:08that
22:09I could have
22:10really believed it,
22:11I,
22:12the last year
22:13of high school,
22:14I was doing
22:15the draft
22:16for the
22:17thesis of my degree
22:18and it was
22:19in a
22:20company
22:21that,
22:22in fact,
22:23was in the
22:24food sector
22:25that,
22:26however,
22:27provided
22:28appliances
22:29and everything
22:30and
22:31I,
22:32there,
22:33if they had given me
22:34a contract
22:35for a certain
22:36job,
22:37I don't know
22:38if I would be here today
22:39because
22:40in front of me,
22:41however,
22:42I was already
22:4325,
22:4425 years old
22:45and I don't know
22:46if in front of me...
22:47In front of a refrigerator
22:48or an attaché.
22:49I get it,
22:50I don't know
22:51what I would have chosen,
22:52but there was
22:53no opportunity
22:54for various
22:55problems that
22:56this company had
22:57and so
22:58I said,
22:59you know what,
23:00let's try it,
23:01let's go to Brescia
23:02and let's see
23:03if I'm really
23:04able to stay
23:05in this world,
23:06let's see,
23:07if not,
23:08it would be nice.
23:09In Brescia,
23:10you were already
23:11training every day?
23:12Yes, yes, yes,
23:13in Brescia.
23:14Always in the evening?
23:15No,
23:16in the afternoon.
23:17Because your
23:18teammates weren't
23:19already working?
23:20No, no,
23:21they were still
23:22training.
23:23But those years in Brescia,
23:24maybe without
23:25doing numbers,
23:26now there is
23:27professionalism,
23:28there are minimums,
23:29etc.,
23:30how much could
23:31the salaries go?
23:32I imagine,
23:33being directors,
23:34there were 17,
23:3518,
23:3620 years,
23:37even zero,
23:38I imagine.
23:39In my opinion,
23:40there were people
23:41who,
23:42I think,
23:43took a normal
23:44salary,
23:45then who more,
23:46who less,
23:47maybe those who
23:48arrived,
23:49I don't know,
23:50they gave us
23:51the house,
23:52but I never
23:53asked anything
23:54of mine,
23:55because I had...
23:56Did you train in Rigamonti?
23:57Yes.
23:58And did you always
23:59play there?
24:00No,
24:01we trained
24:02in Club Azzurri,
24:03in Rigamonti,
24:04we only played
24:05in the Champions League.
24:06Ah, ok.
24:07Yes.
24:08So,
24:09from then on,
24:10but already in the last
24:11years,
24:12anyway,
24:13as a kind of
24:14salary,
24:15they gave you something.
24:16It's not comparable
24:17to what you have now,
24:18but...
24:19You have a salary,
24:20you have the first money,
24:21but above all,
24:22the change of schedule,
24:23that is,
24:24a life that puts
24:25you in football
24:26as your first job,
24:27as a first activity,
24:28as a maximum concentration.
24:29Yes,
24:30yes,
24:31in the end,
24:32I practically played
24:33most of my years
24:34where it was a break,
24:35that is,
24:36you did everything
24:37you had to do
24:38during the day,
24:39school,
24:40studying,
24:41and all the rest,
24:42and then you went
24:43to the field,
24:44but to relax,
24:45it was just
24:46fun and that's it,
24:47then also in Brescia,
24:48you trained in the afternoon,
24:49you had to be,
24:50that is,
24:51everything was concentrated
24:52in function
24:53of football anyway,
24:54so from there
24:55I started to see it
24:56just as a job,
24:57that's it.
24:58But when did you become
24:59a defender?
25:00So,
25:01I became a defender,
25:02so,
25:03I was in Como,
25:04before I was a midfielder,
25:05I did two or three years
25:06as a midfielder,
25:07then,
25:08since already...
25:09In Como,
25:10as a midfielder?
25:11Yes,
25:12no,
25:13in Tradate,
25:14I did the third,
25:15the outside,
25:16the outside attacker,
25:17I didn't see Fusetti
25:18on the side
25:19dribbling,
25:20look,
25:21maybe the speed
25:22was a little reduced,
25:23but I went,
25:24I was young and I went,
25:25then there was a year,
25:26as I said earlier
25:27that we were few,
25:28all those who were
25:29there were fine,
25:30we found ourselves
25:31without a central defender,
25:32they look at me and
25:33say Laura,
25:34would you like
25:35to be a central defender,
25:36at the beginning
25:37I said
25:38why?
25:39It's funny.
25:40No,
25:41most of all
25:42the midfielder
25:43is a bit
25:44the heart of everything,
25:45so...
25:46the heart of everything, you know? You defend, you attack, you score, but I said it's okay, I mean, if I need to, I'll do it.
25:52At the end of the fair, I had a lot of fun, because in the end, it's true that you don't attack and you don't score,
25:58maybe, unless you go up on the stands like that, but if you stop the attacker, who's just going under...
26:07Good night.
26:09He's going to the door.
26:10Exactly, he's going to the door, I mean, and in any case, his effect does it. In fact, from there, I was happy with the choice.
26:18Then, anyway, I cared about playing, so...
26:20Listen, but, in fact, this speech, before you played for fun, you played for fun, etc., so even the game, for the love of God,
26:26there was all the commitment in the world, but it was a moment like no other.
26:30When you then arrived in Brescia, which began to become a very serious thing, how did you live the games?
26:36I mean, you had managers who paid you, you had colleagues who saw it as a job, you were the one who started doing it.
26:42How did you do this mental step of, ah, now it's not just a fun game anymore, if I lose, in a thousand days...
26:49Sure. So, the truth is that I've always played football and I was more committed to anything else.
26:58I mean, if maybe someone says that studying is important, etc., etc., I've always said that I played football as if it were my job, even if it wasn't at all.
27:10The thing I noticed when I went to Brescia was that before the games, maybe at the beginning, I happened to be there and I thought,
27:20yes, but they're paying you. I mean, if you play a bad game, I mean, at the beginning, believe me, I was struggling, I felt like it was my fault,
27:32to say, I mean, they pay me, maybe I'm doing it wrong. So, then, of course, you also have to realize that, in the end,
27:44in football, I mean, you can play a game by God and then maybe make a mistake, it happens to everyone.
27:49The important thing, however, is to put seriousness, professionalism, because, however, even if we have become professionals for only two years,
27:58I think that we footballers, for the most part, have been doing it for a while, as if it were a job.
28:06So, certainly, this change was easy, except for the moment of saying, oh God, they pay me, I mean, here, if I do it wrong, they tell me,
28:14or they're right, I mean, you can't even tell them anything.
28:18In Como, where did you play, where did you train, how was it?
28:21So, in Como, let's say we were a bit errant, in the sense that at the beginning we played at the Belvedere, which was right next to the center of Como,
28:31then we moved to Ponte Lambro, near Lecco, where I think they played for other years after I left,
28:42and so, let's say I've never had the honor of playing at Senigallia, but...
28:50You didn't play at Senigallia, but you played at San Siro, you lost, 1-0.
28:55How was the emotion there, was it nice?
28:57It was beautiful.
28:59Well, obviously, there was COVID, so there were a maximum of 1,000 people, but maybe it's better, because how can you fill San Siro?
29:07I mean, we would never have filled it, but it was beautiful, you could see everything was huge, and you were tiny in there,
29:16so it was really nice.
29:18We also went to the changing rooms, we went the day before to see the field, it was spectacular, with all the lights that took care of the field to make it beautiful,
29:29and that will also remain one of the most beautiful memories.
29:33I have a question about this, if you can think of a beautiful field or stadium, maybe from abroad, you played in the Champions League, or with the national team,
29:42and you say, incredible structure, or on the contrary, a field that says, help, that day, maybe even for the weather, in the wind, there was snow, there was rain,
29:51I remember that I came out, I don't know, full of mud, or incredible structure, with a very small dressing room, we changed...
29:58Ah, look...
30:00I don't know how many anecdotes...
30:02Look, there are countless, there were those sports centers that you entered and made the sign of the cross because you didn't know,
30:09they were really, I don't know, not ancient anymore, then the fields...
30:13Doccefred...
30:15Look, we don't talk about Doccefred, it practically happened often that maybe you had to stay there for half an hour waiting for the boiler to start again,
30:23and the fields, then, bad fields...
30:27I start, Bari...
30:29Bari, but there have been many, above all...
30:33San Zaccaria...
30:35Oh, San Zaccaria, that too...
30:37No, Alinda there, with Piemonte...
30:39Yes, yes, yes...
30:41I also played against Alinda, a character...
30:45And there, really, if one already struggles to say, pass or not pass, you know, one enters the field and says, if the first pass goes well, everything is fine,
30:53there, you say, if the first pass goes well, it's lucky, because then there are...
30:59I mean, we said, the ball with the rabbit, because there were all the bullies,
31:03instead, beautiful fields...
31:05Look, I remember the first game we played at Vismara,
31:09it was wonderful, I said, a field like this...
31:13I wasn't absolutely used to it,
31:17then, of course, when you go abroad, you still see how they cure any kind of field,
31:23I remember when we went to play against Ajax in the Champions League,
31:27there was the field, there was the stadium for the youth sector, next to the male Ajax stadium,
31:37but it had at least five or six fields, all combed...
31:41I'll ask you a question, because the structures are important,
31:45I ask you, in your opinion, sincerely, the last championship, Fiorentina returned to the Champions League, with an incredible season,
31:51and I don't think it's a coincidence that Viola Park and all the structures,
31:57I mean, the two things go hand in hand, I think, or do you say, no, she did her championship,
32:03even if she didn't have a nice gym, rather than...
32:07I mean, how do you see it, infrastructures and results on the field, in the evolution of women's football in general?
32:12So, certainly, having structures equipped with everything and more,
32:18gyms, anyway, Viola Park, I think it was a crazy investment,
32:22and also well done, because we went to play there, it's really beautiful,
32:28there's a green area, an infinity of fields, there's everything, if you need something, there it is.
32:34So, certainly, that encourages you and makes you want to train even when it rains.
32:43On the other hand, I tell you, certainly, having structures helps,
32:47and it was also seen with the evolution of women's football, because once there was nothing,
32:51the gym didn't exist, I mean, unfortunately, you had to go there on the weekend,
32:56because there was no one, and there was the gym of the village,
33:01but on the other hand, I think it's regardless, I mean,
33:05now, in our times, everyone is equipped and has everything,
33:11who more, who less, so, certainly, that would have been something more,
33:16but I think that goes a little beyond, here.
33:19I have two questions, the first, you said, the gym didn't exist,
33:22the gym structure or also the concept of the gym within the training?
33:27I mean, how much did you dedicate to the physical part and how much, instead, only to the field, to the ball, etc.?
33:33Now I'm going to reveal a great secret, I hate it, I hate going to the gym,
33:38I hate it with all my heart.
33:40So you look for books in the folder when they call you.
33:43No, no, I always do it, I don't pull back, but my athletic trainers know very well
33:50that I don't like it, but I do everything, probably also because I wasn't used to it,
33:56I mean, once the strength we did was the jumps, the climbs with maybe the weights on the ankles,
34:04so the steps, the steps of the stadiums, so certainly you tried to do something,
34:10but obviously you didn't have all the skills.
34:13You're very artisanal, right?
34:14Exactly, yes, exactly.
34:16But Rosicchi more, for the fact that now the championship is starting to rise in level,
34:22the stadiums are all more beautiful, there's Viola Park, there's Juventus, there's all the situations,
34:28there's the Champions League, the spectators, we also saw in the Champions League yesterday
34:32all the new Zagorito Camps here and there, or are you grateful for the fact that you managed to do your passion at work?
34:39So, certainly...
34:41Or still, I add the third, thank goodness I didn't have to go to the gym when I was 15.
34:47So, let's start from there, no, apart from the jokes.
34:50The other day I made this joke to my athletic coach, I said,
34:53thank goodness that when I was young there wasn't the physical part to do like this.
34:58No, no, I told him, I ran once, the day of the field, everyone was fine.
35:02So no, I have absolutely no envy, I am happy because it means that what has been done by us
35:10has led to what, thanks also to the help of the men's clubs, is now seen in women's football.
35:16It is certainly beautiful to see the stadiums, even a women's game,
35:20because many times my mother, my father, my brother came to see us, if it happened.
35:25Your brother says, oh, five euros paid.
35:27Exactly, exactly.
35:29So, I think I was really lucky,
35:36because I believed so much in football, but I never hoped so much.
35:42I mean, if I went back now, I don't know, I think I was really lucky,
35:51because I don't know how many people can say they have made a dream come true.
35:56For me, I have always played football and I hoped to continue.
36:01I was hoping not to finish university, so I didn't have to go to work,
36:04so I went on to play football because I knew that sooner or later it would be over.
36:09I mean, there was the day when I had to say, I have to go to work.
36:13But there is the evolution of football that is growing on women's football,
36:17but compared to Europe it is still behind.
36:21And then I tell you, tomorrow you are at the head of the federation,
36:24it is clear that the federation is working well, it is clear that we do not have the magic wand.
36:30Laura Fusetti, with your experience, who has seen it, who knows, who knows and has a vision of what may happen,
36:37what would you do to improve women's football?
36:40Well, let's say that, as you said, what can be done is being done.
36:46We certainly need even more visibility,
36:49especially to involve many more people, especially the sponsors,
36:55because it is true that one is passionate about everything,
36:58but objectively there is also a need, it is ugly to say, but of money,
37:03because otherwise what do you invest in if there is nothing to invest?
37:07So surely the sponsors are very useful,
37:11there are many young people who want to play football,
37:15so you have to give as much visibility as possible.
37:18On the other hand, I tell you, it is true that the work must be done from above,
37:22but it is also up to us, or rather from now on from my ex-teammates,
37:28to always give our best, because now it is even more of a job,
37:34you have to be professional both on and off the pitch,
37:38so if you want sharp reflectors you also have to know how to manage them.
37:43So surely, I don't know if maybe I would also think about training young footballers from the beginning,
37:50because if you don't know how to sell the product then no one will buy it,
37:57and surely abroad this mentality has already been done years and years ago.
38:04In America, we don't talk about it, there everything is a show,
38:08even when we went to America last year, you saw the stadium, a wonderful stadium,
38:14there they set everything as if it were a show,
38:18so people come to see it.
38:20I saw that you said that the first time you played at Wismar it was perfect, incredible,
38:24because you trained at Wismar but not on the main pitch, right?
38:27No.
38:28So it's the first time you set foot on that pitch?
38:30Yes, yes, absolutely, we trained there, I don't remember now,
38:35there are a lot of them, we had our own pitch,
38:38but then the pitch was to be managed by us and Primavera.
38:43Can you tell us about your typical day?
38:46I mean, the last years of your career, any day of the season,
38:52you and your teammates, you because you are you, but the point is,
38:55it's a job, so how do you divide it, how do you set it?
38:59So, obviously, we train every morning,
39:03we train every morning, so morning, wake up, breakfast, then you go to the pitch.
39:07What do you eat for breakfast?
39:09So, what did I want to eat or what did I have to eat?
39:13So, you left out the cappuccino with brioche.
39:15Yes, the cappuccino with brioche, now I'll get back to it,
39:17I can't wait, I can't wait for the cappuccino with brioche.
39:20No, obviously you also have to have a balanced breakfast,
39:23because then you have to go to the pitch and you have to train,
39:25so obviously you have to eat, because otherwise you can't even give up,
39:30also because you go to the pitch, there's the activation part,
39:34or maybe physiotherapy if you need it, then...
39:38Do you also eat salty food?
39:40Well, I don't particularly like salty food,
39:42but in recent years I've become convinced of it,
39:45because it's hunger, it's hunger, so maybe, you know, toasts, things like that.
39:49Then also with the fact that every now and then we played half a day and a half,
39:52so before the game, if you don't eat something substantial, you crash.
39:59So, nothing, you do those three hours,
40:03counting the activation and then the discharge afterwards,
40:06and then nothing, we all went to eat, we all went to eat,
40:10and then in the afternoon everyone is free to do what they want.
40:14In the last two years, actually almost three,
40:18in the afternoon, when I could, I went to see my niece,
40:22and then for a year, this part is my nephew, so I ventured out like that.
40:27Then maybe there are various events to participate in,
40:30but let's say that until two, maximum three, if you are committed,
40:34then you still have enough freedom.
40:36I come to the question from before, that is, advice for young footballers.
40:41I'll explain. Once, at 14, really, many were already playing in the first team,
40:47that is, for the male, for those who don't know,
40:49let's say like 14, 15, 16 years old, he was in the starting team.
40:53Now, however, there is under-15, under-16, under-17, under-19,
40:58and then you go on loan, so, or you go to play, the funnel is always narrower.
41:06What advice do you give?
41:10Then once the A2, the B series, there were no foreigners, so...
41:15Ah no, the first time I saw a foreigner was in Brescia,
41:19so I'm talking about six years ago.
41:21So there was less competition. Now it's much more difficult.
41:26Well, certainly, even in this respect, we have come closer to what is the male,
41:31because in any case, in the male youth sectors, there are few,
41:35those who then have the good fortune to play in the team where they grew up.
41:40So, certainly, that is a bit the most difficult part.
41:45There are many positive things, then there are those that,
41:48obviously, we had more facility to show ourselves, to play,
41:52because at one time numbers were needed, so that you were big, small,
41:56who cares, you just had to play.
41:58Now, for a young person, it is difficult to show yourself.
42:02But, on the other hand, they have a great fortune,
42:06which is to have everything they need to grow in the best way.
42:11So, in my opinion, the important thing is that it is always taken as a fun,
42:15especially when you are young,
42:17without the pressure of saying, I have to get there, I have to do it,
42:20because otherwise, if you live it like this, in my opinion, you live it badly,
42:24and in the end, you don't even get the results.
42:28So, I think that if one puts the commitment, the sacrifice,
42:32then, if it really counts, sooner or later, anyway,
42:37maybe it takes a little more time, that certainly comes.
42:40We always try to get into the locker room, into the dressing room.
42:44So, I ask you, without making names, years in which you have played,
42:47so, season, don't say anything, the coach's name,
42:51but tell us something absurd, a speech that you say,
42:55but what happened? Or an anecdote that has remained,
42:58you say, but what is this stuff?
43:00That you can tell us, without saying when or where,
43:03that is, it could be from Pulcini to Alcomo, to where you want.
43:08So, look, many years have passed, but I think I will always remember it,
43:12it was a game where we had to win,
43:15I mean, it was really bad.
43:17At the end of the first half, I was also quite young,
43:21at the end of the first half, we lost 1-0.
43:25Believe me, I was scared,
43:29because whoever was coaching us that year
43:33started to destroy the entire dressing room,
43:37kicks, stuff.
43:39Did you play on the field?
43:40Yes, yes, yes, yes. No, look, terrified.
43:43Because then, I was young, so I don't know if I would have been 16 years old.
43:48And there he changed all the players, there were three changes, all of them?
43:52So, yes, someone took it and changed it right away,
43:55that is, he insulted her and then said, enough, sit down.
43:59Then I don't even remember how the game ended,
44:02because I remember...
44:04Stopped there?
44:05Yes, and instead in recent years there are more than anything funny anecdotes,
44:10especially with Linda, when Linda was there.
44:13Well, Sabatino Tuccieri was a bit more important.
44:15Exactly, I was about to say, Dani and Linda were, let's say,
44:20that extra here, you know, when maybe the air is a bit heavy,
44:24they always found the right joke.
44:29But why did you call Sabatino Ciabattino instead?
44:32How much is this?
44:33So, the truth is that Dani, for me,
44:36is one of the strongest forwards, still now.
44:41I never stop.
44:43Because she still shows that...
44:45I mean, she always scores, so absolutely.
44:49It was an honor for me to play with her,
44:51but from the years that were,
44:55they practically made fun of her for how she kicked,
44:59because she didn't kick perfectly,
45:01so from there, Ciabattino, you know?
45:03The truth is that, whether she kicked well or badly,
45:06she always scored.
45:08So, even she, in my opinion, in the end said,
45:10yes, say what you think.
45:12I'll give you an anecdote about Linda.
45:14Linda was very nice,
45:16so I guess she must have made some jokes, for sure.
45:22So, she did so many that I don't remember,
45:26but believe me, in the most difficult moments,
45:28when you couldn't do it anymore, maybe, I don't know,
45:31in preparation, they make you run, they make you go up,
45:33and you go this way, and you go that way.
45:35She said exactly that thing,
45:37that maybe said by someone else,
45:39I mean, they told you what you were saying,
45:41I mean, you even got in trouble.
45:43She said it with that sense of humor.
45:45Nothing, people laughed, because what were you supposed to do?
45:47Laugh.
45:48And so, she made fun of everything.
45:50In fact, that's a bit missing,
45:53because, anyway, she was a bit of a hothead,
45:57but we made a lot of jokes.
46:00One last question,
46:01and then we'll wrap up with a couple of quick jokes.
46:03Before, you were talking about nonnism,
46:05it was there, now it's no longer there.
46:07Was there a reason?
46:08I mean, how did you experience it?
46:09I imagine, in fact, in a very funny and funny way.
46:11And why is it no longer there, in your opinion?
46:13Why don't you veterans do it anymore?
46:16Why do young people have a different approach
46:18when they enter a dressing room like this?
46:20So, I'm talking about nonnism,
46:22in the sense that I remember that when I was little,
46:24the Chinese at the end of training,
46:26the ball at the end of training,
46:27if you had to go and get something,
46:29we young people had to do it.
46:31And so, over the years, I don't know,
46:34I think I stayed young forever,
46:36because even now I pick up the balls and everything.
46:40But, then, in my case it was really quiet,
46:46I mean, the fact of going to get the Chinese and everything,
46:50but there were stories of young people
46:52arriving in the first team
46:54and hiding things,
46:56I mean, a little tougher stuff,
46:59which now, absolutely,
47:01I mean, when I talk about nonnism,
47:02I don't talk about that,
47:03because I think that, perhaps,
47:05it's a good thing that it's no longer there.
47:07It's the only thing that now,
47:09maybe, one says,
47:11oh well, if I have to throw the stuff on the field,
47:13do I have to do it?
47:15I mean, now I'm 33 years old.
47:17The young people, no, no, don't worry,
47:19they take it, they go, they do their stuff.
47:21I mean, they don't even think about it, you know?
47:23So, on the one hand, you think,
47:25I mean, you suffered it, in quotes,
47:29it wasn't nice,
47:31why make them relive it?
47:33So, absolutely, I think that the fact
47:35that it's no longer there is a good thing.
47:37On the other hand,
47:39I hope that the young people
47:41always have respect
47:43towards the older ones,
47:45with more experience,
47:46but more than anything,
47:47because they can learn a lot from them.
47:49So, maybe, even that extra advice,
47:51they see it as a judgment,
47:53so, but yes.
47:55You know this game, right?
47:57We'll tell you ten names
47:59and you have to put them from the strongest
48:01to the weakest, they're all very strong.
48:03Obviously, you don't know the order,
48:05so, at the end, you'll find yourself with one
48:07that you would have put on one side,
48:09instead, it will go to the other.
48:11Wait, so I put here the ones
48:13that I think are less strong.
48:15Exactly, from Maradona to the Jew.
48:17Okay, let's start.
48:19The strongest female players
48:21in Italian football.
48:23Obviously, there aren't all of them,
48:25because there are so many.
48:27For example, Giuliano,
48:29we didn't put him, but he should be there.
48:31It's a game.
48:33The first one is Sara Gama.
48:35You don't know what's next.
48:37Second place.
48:39Carolina Morace.
48:41Eh, I aimed too high
48:43from the start.
48:45It's a challenge, but I'll put it.
48:47Come on, let's put it here.
48:49First place.
48:51Laura Giuliani.
48:53Laura Giuliani.
48:59This is a question...
49:03A goalkeeper among the players
49:05is a bit more difficult to put.
49:07I understand.
49:11How many are there?
49:13Come on, I'll put it here.
49:15The goalkeeper was a great excuse
49:17to put her in fourth.
49:19There's the save.
49:21Panico.
49:27Who will end up there?
49:29Third place.
49:31Bartoli.
49:35Come on, I can't know
49:37who's next.
49:39Bartoli is very strong for me,
49:41and so is she.
49:43Let's put it here.
49:45Third place.
49:47Giacinti.
49:51Come on, let's put him in fourth.
49:53Let's put the G's in the bottom.
49:55Sabatino.
50:03Third place.
50:05You struggled for third place.
50:07I saw you.
50:09Second and the other two.
50:11So, Girelli.
50:13What did we say?
50:15That the G's go in the bottom?
50:17How do you know?
50:21I put this one because it's the new one.
50:23Dragoni.
50:25Fourth place,
50:27because I'm in Gotha.
50:29And the last one is Gabbiadini.
50:31It's okay.
50:33Except for the G in the last place.
50:35I don't know about them, but...
50:37It's their story.
50:39Cards.
50:41Any questions?
50:43Pick two.
50:45A couple.
50:51No, I want this one.
50:53Should I spin?
50:55Go.
50:57One at a time?
50:59Which historical figure
51:01would you like to chat with?
51:03Sabatino.
51:05A historical figure,
51:07but also a sportsman.
51:09Anyone.
51:13I'd say Franco Baresi.
51:15But I was lucky enough
51:17to continue
51:19to chat with him.
51:21He's a great footballer
51:23and a great man.
51:25He gave a lot to Milan.
51:27I think
51:29it would be nice
51:31if he could help me.
51:33Next.
51:37What's the most important thing
51:39for you in friendship?
51:41Well,
51:43I'm a person who doesn't trust
51:45people at all.
51:47The people I consider
51:49my friends
51:51are because I trust them.
51:53I have blind trust,
51:55full trust in them.
51:57You came to this podcast
51:59because you had little trust.
52:01It was good enough.
52:03It was good enough.
52:05Let's finish with this
52:07well-wishing finale
52:09that we do with all our guests.
52:11We want to direct you
52:13towards happiness
52:15and joy
52:17with the magic lamp.
52:19So rub it and express
52:21three wishes.
52:23So...
52:25You can express
52:27three wishes.
52:29First wish.
52:33Even if
52:35I won't be able to participate
52:37actively,
52:39I would like to see
52:41Milan,
52:43the women's team,
52:45win a trophy.
52:47We haven't done it in six years.
52:49This is the first one.
52:51It's the first year you don't know
52:53you're going to win.
52:55Maybe next year.
52:57But I'm already
52:59a champion of Italy
53:01with the first title.
53:03So...
53:05Second wish.
53:11Well,
53:13to get rid of my satisfaction
53:15in these new clothes.
53:17Being in Milan
53:19is important for me
53:21and it's beautiful.
53:23So I hope
53:25to be able to do it
53:27in the best way
53:29and then
53:31to get rid of my satisfaction.
53:35Third wish.
53:41I don't know if it's a wish anymore,
53:43but since I know that my friends
53:45have given so much for me
53:47and for me to go on
53:49in what I believed in,
53:51in my dream,
53:53I hope that
53:55they are happy
53:57about all of this
53:59and that they can
54:01continue to be.
54:03And of course
54:05to make them proud of me
54:07even in the future,
54:09because I think that if I got this far
54:11it's thanks to them.
54:13So I wish them the best.