Why is there so much violence in Prakriti? || Acharya Prashant (2019)

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Video Information: Advait Learning Camp, 28.09.2019, Advait BodhSthal, Greater Noida, India

Context:

Why is Nature so violent?
How are we associated with the body?
Why does man need liberation?
Must man kill and slaughter in order to survive?
Why does man kill other animals?
Why is man destroying the nature?
Is there Universe without consciousness?

Music Credits: Milind Date
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00:00Dear Master, if everything is consciousness, why does Prakriti exist?
00:13Why for the survival of one species, one must take another life?
00:20Why this effort must be done to sustain the body when we are not the body?
00:26Shireen, when you are not the body, then obviously you need not make any special effort to sustain
00:34the body.
00:36But then you also are not concerned about making the body fall.
00:46Then you just let the body continue on its own.
00:52There are two ways of associating with the body.
00:55One way is I am the body.
01:00The second way is I am not the body.
01:05When you say I am the body, what is at the center of your statement?
01:11The body.
01:13I am is the subject and the body is the predicate.
01:19When you say I am not the body, still what is it that you are talking about?
01:22What is it that you are interested in?
01:25The body.
01:30Real affiliation to the truth, real expression of the true self contains no mention of the body.
01:52Not only will it not say I am the body, it will also not bother to say I am not the body.
02:01Do you say I am not the pole?
02:05Do you say that Shireen?
02:06Do you say I am not the grass?
02:11Do you say I am not the floor?
02:13Why don't you say I am not the floor or why don't you say I am not the pole?
02:22Why do you not feel the need to forcefully and emphatically declare I am not the pillar?
02:29Why don't you declare that?
02:31Because it would be absurd.
02:33You are obviously not the pillar and it never occurs to you that you are the pillar.
02:39Because it never occurs to you even by chance that you are the pillar, so there is no need
02:42to say I am not the pillar.
02:45Similarly, what is the need to so loudly declare I am not the body?
02:52If you are not the body, let the body be just as you let the pillar be.
03:00Let the body be.
03:01The body knows what to do.
03:02The body is a self-sufficient machine.
03:08Hands are there, the digestive mechanism is there, the legs are there.
03:12The brain is there.
03:17The body knows what to do.
03:18Let the body go ahead and do whatever it wants to do.
03:20You do what you must do and in doing what you must do, if you need to use the body,
03:27use it.
03:28Just as we sometimes use the pillar.
03:31Don't we use the pillar?
03:32We use the pillar but we are not the pillar.
03:36You get the difference?
03:37We use the pillar without identifying with the pillar.
03:41Similarly, for your own purpose, use the body without identifying with it.
03:50There is no need to interfere with the body in the positive sense or in the negative sense,
03:56neither in the sense of affirmation nor in the sense of negation.
04:01That's the best and most healthy relationship that you can have with the body.
04:07Let the body be.
04:15Then if everything is consciousness, why does Prakriti exist?
04:18Prakriti and consciousness are one.
04:25You conceptualize consciousness as something that looks at Prakriti, right?
04:31So Prakriti is all around, the seen and consciousness is the seer.
04:38That's how you probably conceptualize it.
04:40Is that the concept?
04:41So you are asking everything is consciousness, why does Prakriti exist?
04:46Because Prakriti and consciousness are one.
04:50This that we call as consciousness is embedded in the brain, is it not?
04:55No brain, no consciousness, referring to the consciousness as it is commonly conceptualized.
05:04No brain, no consciousness.
05:07And what is the brain?
05:08Prakriti.
05:10So our Prakriti and consciousness are one.
05:15In fact, if somehow the brain can undergo a mutation, you will find that the entire
05:19universe has changed.
05:24If the brain undergoes a mutation, this entire Prakriti will change.
05:28You will find it very surprising, probably unacceptable.
05:31But if the brain undergoes a mutation, even the sun can change.
05:36What do you think?
05:37The sun is some objective entity independent of the brain?
05:39Not at all.
05:45All is in consciousness and consciousness is all.
05:50The sun is not independent of consciousness.
05:54If through some miracle all human beings can have a brain of a different dimension,
05:58it is quite possible that the sun may not rise tomorrow or you might see five suns in
06:03the sky.
06:11The sun is totally dependent on this being for its existence just as this being is dependent
06:19on the sun's energy for existence.
06:22It is not one-way traffic.
06:24We think that the sun gives energy so man survives.
06:28Sorry dear sun, don't act so pretentious.
06:32Yes, I survive on your energy.
06:35But if my consciousness transforms, then you will totally disappear.
06:41Totally means totally.
06:42Get this idea out of your head that the sun or anything in the universe, anything in Prakriti,
06:49anything material has any independent or objective existence.
06:52Not at all.
06:54If there is nobody to watch the sun, nothing like the sun exists at all.
07:00But you don't feel that way.
07:01You say, no, but that is not possible.
07:03Even if nobody is there, the sun will still be there.
07:05Not at all.
07:09Gone.
07:12Without consciousness, there is no universe at all.
07:35Why for the survival of one species, one must take another life?
07:39That's how Prakriti operates.
07:44Prakriti is a system in which there is no living being that can survive without another
07:59living being.
08:00When I say living, I mean consciousness in the loose sense of the word.
08:06Consciousness or sentience.
08:13That's how the game of Prakriti operates.
08:17It is an immoral game.
08:23The question that you have posed is within the framework of morality.
08:28You are asking why must one kill the other for his own survival.
08:33This is coming from morality or this might be coming from compassion.
08:38In Prakriti, there is neither morality nor immorality.
08:43There is neither compassion nor cruelty.
08:46There is neither violence nor non-violence.
08:48Prakriti is just Prakriti.
08:51You can call it a giant machine.
08:55In that machine, it just happens that the lion must kill the deer.
09:00Is that good?
09:01No.
09:03It is just as it is because Prakriti has no need to be liberated.
09:15Man is special.
09:17In the entire Prakriti, man is special.
09:20Man has a need to be liberated.
09:22So man is within Prakriti and is also a little out of it as if he is wanting to escape away
09:30from Prakriti.
09:32If this is the domain of Prakriti, this hall, then man is on the door, on the threshold.
09:43Half inside, half outside.
09:46So he is Prakriti and he is also willing to be out of Prakriti.
09:52That is why man is suffering so much always.
09:59Lion has a need for compassion.
10:03In Prakriti, there is no compassion.
10:07So the lion is not violent if it kills the deer.
10:13Not at all.
10:14But man is violent if he kills the deer.
10:18Lion is not at all committing any sin if he kills the deer.
10:24Because the lion has no option, plus the lion has no spiritual ambition.
10:30Have you ever met any lion asking for liberation?
10:35Any lion?
10:36No.
10:37The lion has no such need.
10:39But man has that kind of a need and if you want to be liberated, then killing deers is
10:45probably not the best way.
10:53So don't ask why in Prakriti does one thing kill the other.
10:59It's an irrelevant question.
11:01A relevant question would be, must man kill and slaughter in order to survive?
11:07That's a relevant question.
11:09Even the answer to that would say man can do that if man wants to remain within the hall.
11:17Man has the option to remain within the area, the domain, the hall of Prakriti or man has
11:23the option to just let loose and fly away, be independent, correct?
11:28If you want to remain Prakriti, then you can act like the lion and kill the deer and eat
11:33it.
11:34And that's okay.
11:36Depends on you.
11:38But then you will be belonging to the jungle.
11:40All that happens in the jungle.
11:41In the jungle, there is no need for liberation, so anybody can kill anybody.
11:46But if you want to be liberated and you want to move outside this domain, then you must
11:51not kill.
11:52The advice is don't kill because within this domain of Prakriti, within the jungle, you
11:59will not find peace.
12:01You are not designed to find peace within Prakriti.
12:05Man can find peace only after gaining liberation from Prakriti.

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