With the introduction of new damage models making it easier to do belly, crash or emergency landings, I decided to update my previous guide on how to do this, showing how the new damage model works with crash landings.
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00:00Hello everybody, Torono here, and welcome back to another episode of War Thunder.
00:04Well, I say another episode of War Thunder, it's actually a remake of a previous episode of War Thunder, or a guide on War Thunder more specifically.
00:12As most of you know, we got the new patch recently, and among the changes were changes to the damage models and structural integrity of the aircraft.
00:20So, it's now a lot easier to crash land aircraft.
00:23Before it was doable, I did it many times in realistic battles, but it was a bit hit and miss.
00:29Sometimes you'd be completely okay, sometimes you'd lose your wings, explode in fires, and all sorts of nasty stuff.
00:36But, I actually did a video on it a few months ago, or last year, it's actually the third most popular video on the channel.
00:43And, so you know, other people were interested in how to do crash landings as well.
00:47But, of course, that is now obsolete, because, obviously, we got the new patch, which has changed how that all works.
00:54But somebody actually wrote in the comments section of that video, Carl Kaniawan, I do apologise if I've mispronounced your name,
01:02basically asking if I could do another video, because they were having trouble landing the PBY, the wings kept falling off.
01:08And I said at the time I'd see how changes were with the new patch, and, you know, and then do a video if needed.
01:14And I've decided to do the video, because the old one is quite obsolete by now.
01:19And, you know, it was done many, many patches ago.
01:22And so, hopefully, this will be a nice updated version of that video.
01:26Now, a little disclaimer on how I'm testing it.
01:29I'm going to be doing it in test flights, rather than online games, because, well, obvious reasons, being shot at,
01:35and it would be unfair on the team to just randomly fly off to do crash landing tests.
01:41I'm using Realistic Battle in the test flight, so Realistic Battle flight models and all that.
01:47I'm going to be doing a variety of different planes. I'm not going to name them all here, but more or less one of every type.
01:53So, like, one biplane, one single-engine fighter, one twin-engine fighter,
01:58a single-engine floatplane, twin-engine floatplane, twin-engine fighter,
02:05dive bomber, twin-engine bomber, four-engine bomber, rocket plane, jet fighter, and jet bomber.
02:12I think that's pretty much all of them.
02:14So we're going to get a nice little cross-section of all the aircraft,
02:18and how to crash land them, and how they react when crash landing them.
02:22But, yeah, that's enough of the intro. Let's get straight into the episode.
02:26Now, the first aircraft we're using is the I-153 Chica, M62 variant.
02:32Now, this is a bit different from most biplanes, because most have a fixed undercarriage.
02:37This has a deployable undercarriage.
02:41How's it going to do? I think it should do relatively well for crash landing, or any landing-ish.
02:48Really, you want to land either on your fuselage or catch it with the rear tailwheel.
02:54It sort of depends. If it catches onto something and gets caught, it may rip your plane in half.
02:59But that is a relatively good way to stop here, if you're just trying to come to a slow stop, I suppose.
03:06But let's see how we land.
03:08Now, that was a relatively good crash landing.
03:11As you can see, we only lost the engine. It took no damage anywhere else.
03:15And the wings, none of them took damage either.
03:18I thought the bottom wings could take some damage, but they've stayed on. They haven't taken any damage.
03:25So that's how the I-153 Chica takes the crash landing.
03:30So, how to do a good crash landing in this particular aircraft, or with biplanes in general, if you lose your undercarriage.
03:36Now, the next plane we're using is the F1M2.
03:42Basically, it's a seaplane.
03:45Now, I don't know how this is going to go.
03:47Usually, in historical battles, I would think you have some sort of place to land.
03:51I believe landing near carriers is meant to rearm you.
03:54But in arcade battles and stuff like that, you may need to land on the actual airfield itself.
03:59Like I said at the beginning, it was someone trying to land seaplanes on land that asked for me to do a guide on it.
04:06So we're going to see how this goes first.
04:09It should actually be relatively easy. I can't see this going too bad.
04:14You can see that the floats don't really break off. I don't think they can break off.
04:19Yeah, at least with the ordinary seaplanes, it's pretty easy.
04:24But I'm not getting a rearming sign, so I don't know why.
04:29Usually, it would rearm and I think spawn you in the air, but maybe it's because I haven't really used any ammunition.
04:35But it's not giving me the choice to rearm, or perhaps because it's a test flight.
04:39So that's how you land with the seaplane, though.
04:42Now, for the single-engine fighter, we're going to use the F2A that you can see here.
04:48Now, this is a bit more complicated than with a biplane, but not much.
04:52I mean, it's only got the wings, as you can see here, rather than two sets of wings.
04:57And you've got landing flaps and combat flaps.
05:01Now, landing flaps should slow you down, but they also generate lift.
05:07You can use them if you want. You could probably get away with not using them.
05:12Pulled them out a little too early.
05:16Yeah, that's one reason not to use your flaps.
05:21But it should be also a lot sturdier, I would have thought, than the biplanes.
05:27Now, this is going to be a little bit more difficult because of the flap damage,
05:31although that probably represents combat damage a bit more realistically.
05:36So, again, like with the biplane, we're going to try and get it down to about 70 miles an hour and try and catch it with the tailhook.
05:44We really want to just eliminate all our forward momentum and just fall straight onto the ground at an extremely low speed.
05:52And, as you can see here, we did it pretty easily.
05:57We got a bit more damage, although that wasn't intended to happen.
06:03But, again, we landed it pretty easily.
06:06You can see they've really made it a lot easier to do these crash landings slash belly landings after patch 1.49 or 1.70.1945.
06:17Now, the next plane we're trying is the SBD Dauntless, which is a bit different in that it has airbrakes and it has these sort of gold-like wings.
06:25I think that's the proper name, but you can see they're not exactly straight.
06:28But it also has, I've forgotten the name, airbrakes.
06:32So you can use these to lose a lot of speed very quickly, but I don't recommend having them deployed the whole time.
06:37When you're going to hit the ground, I would recommend just undeploying them.
06:41Now, we probably came in a little too sharp there, or a little too fast, because, as you can see, we've slightly damaged the tail.
06:47Only ever so slightly, but not something you particularly want.
06:51So, despite this, you would have thought this would be a bit more sturdy being a naval aircraft, but this has actually taken more damage than the land-based ones, which has kind of surprised me.
07:02Now, the next plane we're using is the PE-3.
07:05PE-3 Bis, that was the variant, I couldn't quite remember the variant.
07:09Now, obviously you can see this is a twin-engine fighter, or slash-bomber, but really it's used as a fighter mostly online.
07:17But, as you can see here, the main difference is it's got a tail gunner, it's got two engines, and it's a lot bigger.
07:24It's got a much longer wingspan.
07:26Or span, not spang.
07:29But basically, the main problem I've been having, I've been trying this a few times, twin-engine fighters seem to have their own problems.
07:35Basically, you can land it perfectly fine, but the wings seem to get ripped off while actually doing the landing.
07:41We're actually going to get the bombs reloaded in a sec, which is going to make this even harder.
07:45Now, I'm using my landing flaps, because basically it keeps falling out of the sky and just hitting the ground really quick, before I can have a chance to slow down.
07:56Which is obviously something I don't want.
07:58So, you can see that now it's worked this time, relatively easily.
08:03I did some experiments with the MB-410, and it kept hitting the ground, and then sliding for a few metres, and then both wingtips would just fall off for no reason.
08:13I couldn't quite fathom it out, but basically, either it's a problem with that particular plane, or I just got incredibly lucky while using the PE-3 bis.
08:22But I'll try it again with the MB-410 and see how that goes.
08:26So here we are with the MB-410, or more specifically, the B6-R3.
08:35So, I'm going to try using the landing flaps again, because they seem to do quite well.
08:41You know, from stopping us hitting the ground just so quick.
08:44And it should hopefully slow us down as well.
08:46Now, it could be that I'm coming in too fast.
08:48This thing seems to accelerate extremely quick, and it doesn't seem to matter how far away I turn the engines off.
08:54I always seem to be getting here going God knows how many miles.
09:00So as you can see now, I hit the ground, start sliding, then the tail just falls off.
09:04Now, retract everything.
09:07Now, we did manage to successfully land that time, but we did take quite a lot of damage.
09:11You can see here, we lost the tail and lost the engines, and the wings are quite badly damaged in some areas.
09:19So, it can depend on what fighter you're using.
09:23I mean, we hit the ground extremely hard with the PE-3 bis, but with the MB-410 it just seems to work completely differently.
09:30But basically, you know, use the same sort of standard.
09:35I wouldn't try and catch the tail of this aircraft, but landing on your fuselage should allow you to land successfully.
09:43Although, you can still take damage.
09:46Now, the next plane we're trying to land is the PBY-5A.
09:50Now, this actually does have gears, and I managed to simulate battle damage by trying to deploy them in the water where we take off from.
09:59As you can see, it kind of broke off.
10:02Except for one, which stayed on, weirdly enough. I don't know how that's going to affect things.
10:06As you can see, this is a lumbering whale of a plane. It just falls all over the place.
10:11It doesn't gain any speed, so I'm kind of wondering how this is going to go, especially with that one gear at the front.
10:18Oh, it's not actually broken. Okay.
10:22So it's going to make things really hard, because apparently it bounces us off of the ground.
10:27So I've managed to land it.
10:31It's probably actually a bit easier if you don't have that front wheel out.
10:35It would probably have just hit the ground and, you know, that would be it.
10:40But I think that should count as a proper landing.
10:43As with the last one, though, it doesn't seem to give you an option to repair, because obviously you're not meant to land on airfields.
10:49So I think the problem may be that some people are having is possibly the landing on airfields.
10:54I mean, I don't use aircraft, or floatplanes, sorry.
10:58But yeah, I think you're meant to land near airfields and stuff to rearm them.
11:03So it's possibly that that's causing the problem, rather than the crash landing.
11:07I don't think we're going to be able to take off again.
11:10I'll see if I can.
11:15Putting it on full speed and...
11:18Yeah, it's not happening, is it?
11:20Even with that wheel.
11:22So yeah, you can crash land these successfully.
11:25Getting off the ground again or rearming may be a completely different question.
11:30Now the next aircraft we're using is the Ki-49-2B Late.
11:34Which, as you can see, is a twin-engine bomber.
11:37Now it was this aircraft, or one of the Ki-49s, that originally inspired me to do crash landing guides.
11:44So basically I kept going into battles with these, losing my engines and stuff, or gears.
11:48That was what I was losing, the gears.
11:50And having to land.
11:52Now, this should be relatively easy.
11:54I don't think I had any problems landing this in realistic battles before the update.
11:59It should be a lot easier after the update.
12:03So, coming in nice and slow.
12:05We're going to try and land it on the fuselage, really, with the Ki-49-2B.
12:11Get our gears up.
12:13We're going to have to try and avoid this tree, though, so pull up a little bit.
12:17Use landing flaps.
12:19Bomb's just reloaded, so that's going to be added.
12:22And we raise the flaps just as we hit the ground.
12:26Now, we did take some damage to the fuselage, and we lost our gunner.
12:31That figure's the one who sort of did have his head through the floor, so that's probably gone somewhere now.
12:37Probably off of his body, although the game just says he's unconscious, so maybe he just got knocked out and flew back.
12:43But yeah, you can see twin-engine bombers are relatively easy to land.
12:48And, you know what...
12:50Now, the next aircraft we're using is the Lancaster B-Mark III.
12:53And, as you can see, it's a big four-engine bomber.
12:57We're going to bring our landing flaps down again.
13:00Now, the main problem with this is, basically, those wings.
13:05They're just too wide.
13:07It seems the larger the aircraft, the larger the wings, and the more chance of the wings falling off.
13:12I don't know why it is, but it seems to be the main problem while testing this.
13:18I haven't tested it with the Lancaster, but other bombers and stuff.
13:21It seems the main problem is trying to get these wings to stay on.
13:25So we're coming in nice and slow.
13:28Got our landing flaps down.
13:30Give us some lift, and to slow us down...
13:32Right, we've hit the ground. Pull them up so we don't rip anything off.
13:36And... there we go.
13:38Any damage? Again, fuselage.
13:41Again, engines.
13:43But the crew, all okay. The wings have stayed on.
13:46I don't know what it is. Some of these aircraft...
13:49I don't know if it is just luck or something, but some of these aircraft you hit and you land like this, relatively quick and easy.
13:54But others, it seems like you touch the ground, the wings and the tails will just go flying off for no reason.
13:59Now, the next lot of planes we're going to be landing are jet and rocket planes.
14:03First of all, we're going to be landing the MB-163B, which is a rocket plane.
14:07It didn't do particularly well in real life, because it only had a few minutes of fuel.
14:12It was just too fast to aim at targets properly, and once you ran out of fuel, you were sitting dark.
14:17It was easy to destroy.
14:19I actually recorded an attempt at landing this a minute ago, but the recording got lost somehow.
14:24Basically, I'm going to try landing without the gear, like last time.
14:28And it should work relatively easy.
14:31The reason I tested this was because there was an annoying glitch that I never personally experienced, because I don't have this unlocked properly.
14:39I only have it unlocked for test flights.
14:41But basically, you would land your aircraft, and the wings would just break, or it would destroy itself.
14:45It was just impossible to land the thing, almost.
14:48But we're going to try and land it without the gear again.
14:50Like I said, I've done this before, but the recording got lost.
14:53But it should land relatively easy.
14:56I've got my landing flaps out.
14:58I'm coming in nice and slow.
15:00Use the cannon to slow us down a bit, if needed.
15:03You can see how much momentum we lose when using the cannon.
15:07And there we go.
15:09Get the flaps away so they don't get damaged.
15:13I actually said in my last recording before it got lost that it's probably better doing it without the skid.
15:18Because the skid gives you extra height, and I assume that makes you a bit more unbalanced.
15:22And, you know, that could just cause a whole lot of problems.
15:25But there we go, we landed, and no damage.
15:28Although we're not reloading for some reason, so...
15:31Okay, that's another problem.
15:33It seems to be a bit of a problem with some of these aircraft, but there we go.
15:37So, let's say you land the ME-163B Comet.
15:40Now, the next aircraft we're testing is the ME-262U-4.
15:44Basically, it's an ME-262, but with a 50mm cannon.
15:47Unfortunately, I just don't have the ME-262 regular version.
15:52But I've decided to do this one, because there are a lot of ME-262s.
15:55So, hopefully, this will be quite a similar landing for all of them.
15:59Now, as you can see, we're coming in quite fast.
16:01I'm not sure if my landing gears have deployed...
16:03Oh, landing flaps, there they go.
16:06Now, with the 50mm cannon, we can slow ourselves quite a lot.
16:11Coming in quite fast, probably a little too fast.
16:16But, with the 50mm cannon, we've got ourselves down to about 140 odd miles an hour.
16:22Nearly 130.
16:24And it's going to be a lot more complicated, because we don't have any props that can get destroyed.
16:28But we're going to be landing on the engines, and...
16:32Oh, that's... that's really odd.
16:35I thought the engines would get ripped off or something.
16:38But we actually use them as a kind of skid to land on.
16:42It shows a bit of green around them.
16:46A bit greener than the rest of it.
16:48Does that mean it's damaged?
16:50I can't see any damage model thing coming up on the left, though.
16:53Like, you know, as if we damaged it.
16:56So, yeah, that seems a really easy way to land it.
17:00So, there you go.
17:01If you want to land your ME-262, just use your engines as skids.
17:05Or try and land it on its belly if you somehow lose the engines, but there you go.
17:10Now, the last plane we're trying is the Canberra B-Mark II.
17:15Basically, it's a British jet.
17:17It was between this and the Arado 234, because I don't have many jets unlocked.
17:21And there's two Arados, but they have quite significant differences.
17:25Whereas there's quite a lot of Canberras, and...
17:28Well, the B-57 is quite similar to the Canberra.
17:30It's actually a Canberra built in America, from what I understand.
17:33So, we're going to see how this goes.
17:35I honestly don't know.
17:37It looks sort of fragile, but I don't know.
17:41I have a feeling the problem is going to be the wings, if anything.
17:44Oh, we've got the landing flaps.
17:46So we're slowing ourselves right down.
17:48We're actually gaining a bit of height.
17:51Well, we're actually staying the same, even though we've lost like 20-odd miles an hour.
17:54So, we're starting to fall a little bit now.
17:57Pull the flaps in before they get damaged.
18:01And... yep, successful landing.
18:04Fuel tanks are okay. We're okay.
18:07No crew have been injured.
18:10Yeah, it all went pretty well.
18:13So, that's how you land the jet bombers.
18:15I mean, again, it might be different for the Arado.
18:17But that's how you land the Canberras, at least.
18:20And I can't see it being too much different with the other jet bombers.
18:24Well, anyway, that's it for today's episode.
18:27I hope you enjoyed it.
18:29I hope it proves to be as useful as the original episode that it's based on.
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