Payton Pritchard is no stranger to half-court heaves w/ Dana Altman | You Got Boston
Oregon University head coach Dana Altman joins the show in the latest, Payton Pritchard-focused episode of You Got Boston. We discuss when Dana knew Payton was going to be a good NBA player, the origin of his half-court buzzer-beaters, what makes a good coach, what the media gets wrong, and more. Dana also touches on other players he's coached who have gone on to have successful NBA careers, including Kyle Korver and Dillon Brooks.
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00:00What's up everyone, this is Noah Dosdall with a brand new episode of You Got Boston, Celtics
00:26podcast and we are just a couple days away from Celtics media day so soon enough it will no longer
00:33be about speculation or reminiscing but it'll be about real-time reporting and letting you all know
00:38what is going on on the ground. I will be at training camp, I will be traveling with the team
00:42when it practices events so subscribe, follow and I'll be continuing to kind of share behind the
00:49scenes everything that's happening with the Celtics team. We have a special guest for today's episode,
00:55actually two guests so I'm recording this after the interview that I conducted alongside my dad.
01:03The guest is Dana Altman, Oregon's men's basketball coach who also coached Peyton Pritchard for four
01:09seasons including a season in which Peyton Pritchard was really one of the best players
01:13in all of college basketball and so I will be very transparent about this, I don't have a lot of
01:19connections or familial ties to the basketball industry but my dad played basketball, I've
01:25talked about that before, we've had him on before and he played at Eastern New Mexico
01:31and Dana Altman was actually his teammate so figured the three of us would all chat together
01:36just a little bit about basketball and about coaching and about just how the landscape has
01:40changed with online you know growth and social media and all that but also really what I wanted
01:47to get into with Dana was Peyton Pritchard because obviously Peyton Pritchard is one of the
01:52key members of the Celtics team, one of the key members of this team that just won the championship
01:57and that hopefully will be able to kind of run it back this season and so chatting with Dana about
02:01kind of when he knew Peyton Pritchard was going to be an NBA player, we talked about the half court
02:07shot so that was pretty interesting to hear about some of the history there that maybe some of you
02:12were familiar maybe you weren't and we also just talked about kind of the perception of coaches
02:17because something that I've talked about and if you've listened to me on other podcasts or even
02:22just on here or on Twitter or whatever like I don't like speculating about people being good
02:26coaches and bad coaches because I just genuinely think we don't really know what's going on behind
02:31the scenes and so we talked a little bit about that as well with my father John and with Dana
02:39his teammate and a college coach of nearly 40 years now so I hope you enjoyed the conversation
02:45it was a little bit differently formatted than usual because it was all three of us on this and
02:50normally when I have a guest probably won't be as crowded but I hope you enjoy and thanks so much as
02:55always for tuning in I will be going live on Sunday to give you all kind of any opportunity
03:03to ask questions, Celtics mailbag as usual but I'm also going to be in Connecticut covering
03:09the Fever Sun game so we'll have a special WNBA focused show from Connecticut on Sunday so for
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04:31Awesome so we have two special guests on the You Got Boston podcast today. One is a little
04:36bit more special than the other no offense to my dad who's a repeat guest but we also have
04:42Dana Altman who is here to discuss Peyton Pritchard today which I'm really excited about
04:48because obviously that's somebody that Celtics fans really care about and I really want to learn
04:52more about but also we want to hear a little bit about his time as a college coach for the last
04:56how many years have you coached college in total? Oh you shouldn't ask that question but
05:03no I've been a division one head coach for 35 years now and coached nine years before that
05:10in junior colleges and an assistant to Lon Krueger at Kansas State so I've got 44 years in start
05:20number 45 and kind of ages me a little bit but it's been a good run. Absolutely and maybe I'll
05:30have my dad explain how you guys know each other because I think you would do better justice than
05:34I will just for the for the viewers to have some context on why we have. First of all we want to
05:39clarify whatever whatever went on in eastern New Mexico stays in eastern New Mexico right Dana?
05:44That's true that's true I'm not sure I'm driving the time together so we won't have time to go
05:51into a lot of details but we'll we'll make it quick but Dana and I's history is that he he
05:58came out of junior college I know and and I came out of high school and we both met in at eastern
06:04New Mexico. We were both recruited from very different directions and and he as a he came in
06:11as a junior right Dana and I came in as a freshman and we were teammates on a team that was
06:18coached by Larry Riley who ended up being the GM of the Golden State Warriors and you know the the
06:26rest of history Dana what was interesting is we not only played together but when Dana graduated
06:31from eastern New Mexico his first it was like an assistant coaching job right or like an
06:37like an internship he went to coach for Larry Riley's twin brother who was coaching at Western
06:43Colorado and that you know that's part of part of his his path to where he is today
06:50but it was pretty interesting. No the Riley the Riley twins were were really good to me over the
06:57years I still stay in touch with them in fact we went on a golfing trip for four days last month
07:05in August and so my time with John at Eastern and and meeting coach Riley and then spending two
07:13years with Larry and then two years with Mike those guys been really good to me over the years.
07:22Can I tell a little funny story now? Please. So one of the one of the funniest things that I
07:27I remember back in my in my history and it involved Dana is that Dana was when he was coaching at
07:31Western Colorado we talked about this last time we spoke but it was Christmas break and I didn't
07:36really have anywhere to go and Dana had told me like six months earlier maybe you want to come
07:40up to Western Colorado and of course we didn't speak about it for six months and I decided on a
07:46whim to drive up to Western Colorado and I got up there and there was nobody on campus I couldn't
07:51find anybody I think it was literally it was the place was deserted and I finally found his phone
07:55number and called Nebraska and he answered the phone and I said Dana I'm here at Western Colorado
08:01you remember? I said I remember yeah because that was six months ago I invited you and you never said
08:08anything and now you're in Colorado I'm in Nebraska and uh and as a really good friend
08:14which he really was to me in college he said I'll be there in a couple of days and he left I think
08:19the next probably to the the horror of his family he came and joined me in Colorado and we hung out
08:24together but it was it was so funny anyway I do remember that I jumped in the car the next morning
08:34to get back so I can't believe you thought it was appropriate to just show up without
08:39you know I was I was young and oh that was your dad that was your dad he was carefree
08:46let's let it go you know I'm buttoned down I was precise that's right I was I went to every class
08:54if your dad told you he went to every class and did everything by the book he absolutely lied to
08:59you all right I tried did we not clarify that whatever it was whatever happened
09:08and you're like you already signed the mda on that I believe didn't you not
09:13what's that didn't you sign the mda on the eastern New Mexico piece
09:17no I did not inside or non-disclosure agreement you you're up so you know you know what's
09:25interesting though is that even then and and this is the this is the real thing is that
09:32we as different personalities is I was a player and I am still on a player I never really had a
09:38desire to be a coach I I love the game from the player's perspective and I still do and and Dana
09:45was already as a junior in college he was already a kind of a coach and it was like it was like he
09:52was meant to to to do and to be what what he ended up doing it's pretty pretty fascinating
09:57and I still am the the same kind of gym rat kind of basketball player until today which is you know
10:04that's that's that's who we are I guess but yeah I was a little less little less responsible than
10:09Dana was back in the day when did you know you wanted to be a coach Dana you know I really don't
10:16know I I needed assistance I wanted to get a MBA and you know I needed help paying for it so I took
10:25the GA's job at Western I planned to go to law school and and decided not to do that so but then
10:33when I was a GA and working for Mike Riley you know I really enjoyed it just couldn't see myself
10:40doing anything else at two o'clock but going to the gym and so then I was junior college coach
10:47and I love that you know I got really good players really good guys that loved ball and and kind of
10:54needed me and spent you know four years coaching junior college ball before I went to work for
11:01for Lon Krueger but didn't you win a national championship as a junior college coach no we we
11:07went to Hutch three times to the national tie we got third third and fifth we never we never won
11:13at all but we went to the final four twice and and finished fifth one year and so three of the four
11:21years we had a chance to win it all and didn't you coach the the junior college that you played
11:26for before you came to Eastern New Mexico yeah yeah that was my first job uh South East Community
11:35College and then I went to Moberly which which was my big break because I got Mitch Richman
11:40you know that was my big break I you know I was probably Noah that's right yeah the Mitch Richman
11:49yeah and he's a whole I don't know if Noah this is back in the day he's a hall of famer
11:56one of the great scorers in NBA history and and Dana coached him yeah he scored over 20,000 points
12:02he was rookie of the year in 1989 scored over 20,000 points his claim to fame though the thing
12:10he's most proud of even more than the hall of fame is in Jordan's book he said he was the toughest guy
12:16he had to go against and you might go Jordan's book right yeah yeah so that's he loved that
12:23his nickname was the rock so in junior college we went 35 and 5 and 34 and 4
12:29Mitch won 69 games and I found a way to screw up 9 so he was really good
12:38and before we get into the Celtics stuff I actually have a question that I've long wondered about
12:42coaching you know just being a member of the media and covering basketball I'm curious for your
12:47perspective I think a lot of times if you watch I mean I'm sure hopefully for you you don't watch a
12:52lot of you know ESPN people talking about basketball or people talking about you know
12:56your team or anything like that but you know a lot of it is speculation about whether someone
13:01is a good coach or not like ranking the best coaches in the NBA or ranking the best college
13:05coaches and the reality is that the media members like aren't in practice they don't really know
13:09what's going on behind the scenes like they're just going to press conferences and trying to
13:12figure out what's going on but they don't really have like the behind the scenes intel to know
13:17what it really is making someone a good coach or not so I'm curious from your standpoint like when
13:21you look back at your career like are there certain years where you're like okay that coach
13:25that year I was really a good coach like I had buy-in from the locker room or you know and it
13:29doesn't align with what the outside world thinks like do you think people actually have a clue of
13:33what's happening on benches and within locker rooms or do you think it's just all kind of
13:38speculation and you know we talk about Joe Mizzoula everybody now loves Joe Mizzoula because
13:42it's always won a championship but a year and a half ago everybody thought he shouldn't be a coach
13:47in the NBA anymore so just curious from your standpoint isn't it as a long time college coach
13:51on that well first of all there's never been a good coach without really good players you know we
13:59we kid ourself if we think we can out coach everybody or out work everybody
14:08you better have really good players and you know the final four team we had
14:14we had five guys that went to the NBA Dylan Brooks, Chris Boucher, Peyton, Tyler Dorsey
14:23you know Jordan Bell so now three of them have won a championship Jordan with Golden State and
14:31and Boucher with Toronto and and Peyton with the Celtics you know so you know that year I was a
14:38good coach you know other years you know people said I haven't been a good coach and I didn't get
14:44real smart that year and and really stupid all the other years it's just that we had really good
14:50players so first thing is you better have really good players and then secondly you need some luck
14:57you know guys gotta stay healthy you know and the biggest thing is getting guys to work with you
15:04and and that's really changed over the 40 years you know of coaching trying to adjust trying to
15:11stay with guys and and talk to them and relate to them and and as I've gotten older you know I
15:20had to work really hard at staying younger and relating to guys you know and really depending
15:26on my staff you know to tell me hey you need to get a better relationship with this guy you know
15:33on this guy too hard you know those things are really important and I got a great staff
15:40you know Kevin McKenna has been with me for over 20 years
15:48Josh Jamison's been with me for 12, Brian Fish almost 20, Tony Stubblefield just came back from
15:54DePaul he was with me for 11 years, Mike Meninga has been with me for 10 so I've had great loyalty
16:01from my staff and and that's really helped so you know what's the perception outside
16:09you know is is always different than what we feel inside you know there's been some years that
16:15we've really got everything we could out of the team so I felt really good about it and there's
16:21been other years where we've had good years but I just didn't feel we maximized our talent and what
16:26we should have done and so the media to be honest you know they're right some of the time but a lot
16:34of times they're wrong they're wrong about players when they criticize a guy or talk about a guy
16:41you know your dad will tell you when you're when you're in the gym a lot with guys you know you
16:48realize who's working their tail off and who's maximizing their effort who's committed to the
16:54team and you know those things are really important so again media gets it right some
17:03but they are wrong a lot and it hurts you know our guys feelings sometimes you know but
17:13you know I tell them you you chose to come to the University of Oregon you know or you chose to go
17:18to Creighton when I was there or Kansas State when I was there you know that we're trying to play at
17:23the top you know and now with NIL a lot of people consider them professionals so they're even coming
17:29after them a little harder but you know sometimes it's hard for me to see them picking on an 18 19
17:3720 year old kid when I know they're giving it all they got and I tell our guys stay off their phones
17:43quit you know quit going on social media quit listening to everybody you know but it's really
17:48hard for them to do that but you know I can tell you from a from a you know from a player's
17:57perspective though and I appreciate Dana's modesty but the coach you know just having the really good
18:03players is one thing but you really you truly have to have somebody to bring that team together
18:08and I personally have you know my own life experiences in basketball where I played on
18:13some teams that talent-wise probably the most talented team I ever played on and we we couldn't
18:19we couldn't figure out a way to win a game if we if we tried because we just weren't together
18:24and the coach had a lot of responsibility in that not being able to bring us together
18:29and I played on other teams and you know I I know that both of you understand that because
18:33you both played basketball but and I've been on teams where we were able to be brought together
18:38and kind of to join forces and to work with one another instead of kind of around one another
18:44and it changes everything so you know Dana Dana I can I appreciate that his modesty but he
18:49he has done something very special over those last 40 years there's no way around it to have the
18:55success to win as many games and I was looking I was telling Noah before we started I was looking
19:00at your resume just so I would just refresh my memory but I don't think there's many coaches
19:04that I've coached with the longevity with success and and coach only like what three teams
19:12in division one I mean I spend a year at Marshall's so I've had four but you know I've been
19:19really that's pretty that's pretty unique I'm not a historian but I would say that's pretty
19:25up there in the top 10 of all time as far as number of wins and the same universities and
19:31all that I don't know it's amazing to me well you know I appreciate that John I think the thing
19:37we're most proud of is being consistent you know we've we've had a good run here we've had 27
19:47winning seasons 27 post seasons in a row you know we're patting ourself on the back there but
19:55you know just being consistent with our players you know I mentioned the coaches how long they've
19:59been with me I think that's a big part of it amazing you know our message has been the same
20:05you know we want guys that want to be at Oregon want to compete that was always our message at
20:11Creighton you know we want guys that want to be here want to compete want to get better and
20:18you know the guys that have been successful for us you know two characteristics they work
20:25their tails off and they're really competitive guys and you know Dylan Brooks is you know kind
20:32of some people in the media don't the one thing I love about him he was so competitive he brought
20:39it every day you talk about a guy that loves the game and I know we're going to talk about
20:44Peyton he's the same way Peyton loves basketball he loves to be in the gym you know this identity
20:52he's a player and Peyton's competitive now I mean he'd lose a shooting drill he'd lose a 10 we run
21:00after you know 10 up and downs you know he he'd get mad you know he competes and so again we've
21:10been fortunate to get guys that have those two characteristics you know they they love the
21:15love the game love to be in the gym love to work hard and then they're really competitive.
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23:25you named those two characteristics and the first thing I thought of you know every time you talk to
23:29anybody the Celtics coaching staff or other players they describe peyton pritchard as someone
23:33who is insanely competitive and an incredibly hard worker and I think it's a big part of why
23:38at least from the outside he's been able to have a successful NBA career and now
23:42sign a big long-term contract and contribute to a championship team and I don't know how I know
23:47you're you have a lot of kind of former players that I'm sure you follow their careers I don't
23:50know how much you've gotten to tune into Celtics games in particular over the years I'm sure maybe
23:55in the playoffs a little bit but he really has become like a legend in Boston in particular
24:00because of the the half court shots the buzzer beater shots you know he had some legendary
24:05moments in this most recent postseason run that I think are maybe some of the plays that people
24:10are going to remember first and foremost so I was curious just on that if you have any memories from
24:15when he was in college of him working on like crazy half court shots or buzzer beaters like
24:21it seemed to us like it kind of came out of nowhere that all of a sudden he has like a
24:25highlight reel from just this past year of him you know hitting three-quarter shots at the buzzer
24:29and everybody kind of knows it's going to go in because there's such a long track record now him
24:32hitting those is that new or is that something that you actually saw flashes of throughout the
24:37four years they spent with you in Oregon well ask Washington and Arizona because he hit a couple
24:43against them so is that right oh yeah yeah his uh his senior year we were in Seattle playing
24:50Washington I and he had about a oh a 40 footer to win the game and you know you know Peyton he
24:59was pounding his chest and uh he he didn't lose in Seattle the four years he was here so he just
25:06I own this town you know he's happy and uh but no and and uh he had a game against Arizona his
25:16senior year I think he got 36 that night and you know a couple of them are from way down town he
25:23he hit a couple deep ones but no he you know he's just in the gym you let him take those shots
25:30especially later in his career I you know as a freshman sophomore he didn't but as a junior and
25:36a senior he kind of earned that right you know because he was in the gym more and you know I
25:43tell guys they earn shots you know they they earn the right to take those shots and uh Peyton's
25:50teammates respected that uh he was ready for it he wanted to take those shots you know and uh
25:58so he's again that's part of his makeup he doesn't lack for confidence now
26:04he's perfectionist and he knows he's a player he thinks he's a player you know going his junior
26:11and senior year nobody had him in the mock drafts you know nobody was thinking about him being a
26:16player and not him you know he's going and and Brad you know fortunately saw something in him
26:25and uh I wanted to ask you because coming out coming out his senior year and I remember this
26:33because I was watching him play because of of course you know I because of you and you know my
26:38my history with you I always pay attention to where Oregon is and what they're doing and I was
26:43very aware of Peyton Pritchard for those four years and his senior year I mean he was literally
26:48dominating the Pac-12 and I know that he was like a first he was all-american consensus all-american
26:55going into his senior year and all of that was happening and then COVID hit right before the
27:01Pac-12 tournament right yeah and and I remember thinking to myself the the lights went out on
27:07this not not only of course for the for the everyone but all the the whole college program
27:12but particularly with him because he was about to go on the stage of of kind of the world stage
27:18to do his thing and then the lights went out and I and I wonder you know like do you think that
27:23affected where he went in the draft that he may have done even he may have been even higher in
27:28the draft or maybe the he would have come out of college even with even higher expectations than he
27:33did because I had I had I don't know you know it could have um but he you know he was plaque
27:41Pac-12 player of the year that year and uh his junior year we went to the sweet 16 and Virginia
27:49beat us by four and that was the year Virginia won it all you know and and he had a great finish
27:55to his junior year so you know people were aware of him and the NCAA tournament definitely could
28:01have been a springboard as it has been for a lot a lot of teams we won the league you know we're the
28:08number one seat in our conference tournament I think we'd have probably been a three seat in
28:12the NCAA tournament that year that's kind of what everybody has projected so it could have been a
28:19great opportunity for him but you know there were plenty of teams that saw him and knew what he was
28:25capable of you know and I'm like I said I'm glad that Brad pulled the trigger on him because you
28:31know I thought it was a good fit at the time I believe it's been a good fit you know throughout
28:36his career you know um you know I'm really biased because I love love Peyton I love his attitude I
28:43love what he did for our program and our university um so you know just imagine what do you think what
28:52do you think he how far do you think he can go as an NBA player because I I have I don't I don't
28:58want to like jump on the bandwagon now but from when they drafted him there was a lot of you know
29:03a lot of kind of you know discourse from the fans you know why do they draft him this size you know
29:09I you you heard that living in Boston and I was thinking to myself that was a great pick and this
29:13guy's going to be a great NBA player and it it took him a little while to get started I think
29:18which you know it's not not unusual for a rookie to come in and you know to a big program but now
29:26he's he's established but like how far do you think that he can actually go as an NBA player
29:30because I think that he could be on a if he was on a different team right now I could see him
29:34starting and averaging 25 points a game I don't know I'm not sure if I'm wrong but I I believe
29:39that well I you know I think he could definitely be a starter for some teams um and I I think he
29:47can score um you know so and here again you know I'm biased because he was with me for four years
29:56and won us a lot of games but you know I definitely want to hear bias that's what we're looking for
30:01bias you know he he can be you know but he's he's with the winner and he's got a role on that
30:08winning team he's gonna play a long time I truly believe that you know he's he's got 10 12 more
30:14years that he's gonna play um he reminds me of of another player I had Kyle Korver who
30:23was just really dedicated really took care of himself really loved ball and you know was a
30:31role player for a while but then became an all-star you know I mean spent 17 years in the league
30:38you know because he took care of his body loved ball he was always in shape no bad habits you
30:44know and that's Peyton just at a different position but I think Peyton's going to play a
30:50long time and you know no one would have ever guessed that Kyle Korver would have ever played
30:56in an NBA all-star game and had the career that he did and I think people underestimated him I
31:03think they underestimate Peyton I think he'll have a long career I think there's going to be a lot of
31:08good years that you know what he could develop into given the opportunity you know and Kyle
31:15bounced around from a few teams you know and and I hope that doesn't happen with Peyton I'd like
31:21to see him stay with the winner and be playing for championships you know that's something that's
31:26really you know we mentioned Mitch Richmond Mitch Richmond went to LA Lakers his last year of his
31:34career just so he could win a championship try to be on a championship team and you know players
31:41that that play a long time you know that's what they want you know that's what coaches coach for
31:46you know we spent all this time you know we want to get back to the final four we're going to try
31:51to win it again you know I mean so I say again Oregon won it in 1939 so it's been a long long
32:02drought so right yeah we won the very first NCAA championship here in Oregon so but 1939 John it
32:10was a while ago so a little bit before our time a little bit we got to try to get back and and
32:16get one for the school I hope so I hope so I hope so for you you deserve it
32:22and just one last question on him this is all this is super insightful so I appreciate you sharing
32:27I think like there's some obvious things about what has made people be able to succeed in the
32:32NBA like and you've obviously coached former great players um the work ethic you mentioned the
32:37competitive spirit like when you are their coach is there a moment like during Peyton Pritchett's
32:42college career or Dylan Brooks um or Kyle Corver is where you were like okay this is somebody that's
32:47actually going to make it in the NBA that I can see a long career for this person versus obviously
32:52not mentioning any names but like maybe with other stars you've had you've got it I don't think this
32:55is going to work at the professional level in the NBA like is that something that you can forecast
32:59or is a lot of it like hey like they're putting themselves in position but they have to have a lot
33:03of luck like there's so much that has to go right that even if you think like they should be NBA
33:07players eventually like you can't really have that confidence because you know how difficult it is to
33:12go from a good college player to making it in the most competitive league in the world
33:17well the only thing I can tell you there's just you've got to have a little luck
33:22the Philadelphia 76ers drafted Kyle Corver and Randy Ayers was the coach at the time
33:29and he called me a couple times saying hey I think we're gonna cut Kyle and guys got hurt
33:35and he stayed on and 17 years later he's retiring you know and I had a player Anthony Tolliver
33:44who was in the G League and went to Golden State Golden State had a bunch of injuries and he hung
33:49on and hung on and kind of made a name with himself with Don Nelson and that he had 11 year
33:56career so you know you need a little luck guys like Mitch you know there was no doubt in my
34:01mind he was the fifth player taken in the draft you know the first guard taken you know there's
34:06no doubt I mean you saw it just the physicality the talent but then other guys have worked their
34:12way into the league you know and and you know they needed maybe just a little bit of luck
34:19you know and and and getting in the right situation and so it's not an exact science
34:27you know I can't sit there and say hey this guy's gonna make it this guy's not
34:31you know a lot of it depends on health you gotta stay healthy you know I had a player last year
34:36and Folly Dante who I love who won us a lot of games he's had some injury problems you know and
34:43but I think if he stays healthy he's got a shot you know I mean so you gotta stay healthy you
34:49gotta be with the right team you know coach has got to give you maybe that extra chance
34:53you know to show what you can do and I'm kind of waiting for Bol Bol to turn it on down at
35:00Phoenix because I love him he did a great job for us for nine games and then he broke his foot
35:05you know and you know he's kind of bounced around but people forget he's only 24 years old he's got
35:10a lot of time and he is talented you know so Kevin Durant's kind of taking him under his wing I hope
35:17you know I hope Bol Bol turns it on but so you need a little break you know you need a coach
35:25who believes in you an organization that believe you in you and that's where you know I'm so happy
35:30for Peyton because you know I know Brad believes in him I know you know the people there believe in
35:36him he believes in himself and you know I think he'll make it you know whether it's with the
35:43Celtics or you know if something goes different you know he just he's competitive he'll take care
35:49of himself he was with me for four years never missed a game never missed a practice so I know
35:54he's durable yeah he's tough he'll he'll bring it every day and just last question for me you
36:02mentioned the Philadelphia 76 was general manager giving you a call letting you know that you might
36:07be cutting a player of yours is that still something that happens between NBA general
36:12managers and college coaches where there is that line of communication or is that kind of an unusual
36:16circumstance more dependent on personal relationships I'm always curious about how
36:19that handoff happens and how much the college coach still is in the mix as far as giving his
36:24opinion or her opinion or whatnot well Randy was the coach at the time for Philadelphia
36:31you know some of the guys call you know others you know I don't hear from
36:38you know it's pretty much relationships and you know how how close a player is with the coach
36:48you know so like Randy knew Kyle and I were really close you know and and you know so
36:57I hear from some I don't hear from others you know it's kind of hit or miss you know Brad being an
37:04old college coach you know is is a little different you know he he'll pick up the phone
37:11you know before Peyton was drafted you know we talked and so I had a pretty good feel that
37:18he was in the mix there and might get an opportunity and you know we haven't
37:24communicated lately by any means but you know I I think it just varies with the organization
37:32awesome well that's all for me thank you so much I so appreciate your time I don't know if there's
37:36anything else uh dad that you wanted to ask but I have I have one last question does oh god do I
37:42remind you of Peyton Pritchard a little bit the way that I used to play Dana any similarities
37:48there at all you know I can't answer that correctly be careful I don't want to hear on
37:58the podcast with your daughter right there but yeah John John loved to play now I know how many
38:07times we go out there play one-on-one you mentioned that Christmas break remember we went to the gym
38:12played one-on-one the whole time there's nobody in town there's nobody and I had the keys to the gym
38:17we went up to the gym and played one-on-one the whole time so but uh I can't believe you were
38:22supposed to spend Christmas break with your family and you got stuck playing one-on-one with him in
38:26an empty gym I can't believe you really like that it was it was okay so it's one of the decisions
38:33and regrets in life I'm sure until today why did I go there why did I just leave this guy
38:38leave him in the mountains I don't know what you did just show up though no warning at all
38:44I mean we had talked about it you know August or September and then all of a sudden December 26th
38:52calls where you at I said well we don't start until January 2nd what are you doing you know
39:00well I'm here so I came to visit though you gotta give me help yeah I can't use it
39:09well I hope everything goes well for you and Dana thank you so much thank you so much and I will
39:15will say Peyton is a wonderful young man you know he got married and Emma's great girl
39:22but I'm just telling you he's he's one of the best in all these years one of the best most
39:28competitive guys in the gym all the time loves ball and as a coach man that's what you look for
39:35you just want you want somebody that goes to the gym you know wanting to compete every day and
39:40and he's definitely one of those dudes no doubt awesome thanks so much Dana thank you time out
39:47of your schedule here yeah no problem all right take care all right