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Jared Weiss of The Athletic joins the program to chat about Woj's retirement, how boring media day will be, and why Joe Mazzulla is still underrated. Then, they discuss why the Celtics should remain top dogs this coming season, and why there isn't a clear-cut team to contend with them.    CLNS Media is Powered by:   Prize Picks - https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/CLNS Download the app today and use Code CLNS when you sign up & Get $50 instantly when you play $5!   Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying MLB tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. Last minute tickets. Lowest Price. Guaranteed. Terms apply.  Elevate your style game on and off the course with the PXG Spring Summer 2024 collection. Head over to https://PXG.com/GARDENREPORT and save 10% on all apparel.  Nutrafol Men! Take the first step to visibly thicker, healthier hair. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to https://Nutrafol.com/MEN and enter the promo code GARDEN!   #celtics #NBA #BostonCeltics The CLNS Media Network is the leading provider for video/audio content. CLNS is a fully credentialed member of the media with access to all NFL/NBA/NHL/MLB teams & venues. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------  CLNS' rebuilt their YouTube community in less than 12 months, during a pandemic that attacked sports. Wondering how? Find out here (and support our channel) - https://www.tubebuddy.com/clnsmedia  Visit the Official Home of CLNS Sports Coverage -  https://clnsmedia.com  Twitter - https://twitter.com/CLNSMedia Celtics - https://twitter.com/celticsclns Patriots - https://twitter.com/patriotsclns Bruins - https://twitter.com/bruinsclns Red Sox - https://twitter.com/redsoxclns Non-Sports - https://twitter.com/northstation Facebook - http://facebook.com/clnsmedia INSTA - http://Instagram.com/clnsmedia INSTA Celtics - http://Instagram.com/celticsclns INSTA History - http://Instagram.com/nbahistoryclns

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00:00Celtics beat is brought to you by price picks and the game time app

00:06What's up, everybody?

00:08Welcome in a new edition of Celtics beat great to be here with you Adam Kaufman Evan Valente and a good friend of the program

00:14Was it's been on with us in a little while. So it's good to have him back

00:17He once hosted this show as a matter of fact Jared Weiss from the athletic Jared. How are you pal? Hey, yo, I'm good

00:24It's rainy. It's I wear pants for the first time like on purpose in like four months

00:29No, there's pants below the shot for the people watching on YouTube or

00:34You know doesn't matter doesn't matter ever done the no pants zoom before I I will admit I've never actually done it

00:42Well, what do you mean? No pants like like truly sitting there in the buffer like just underwear just just underwear

00:49Sure, absolutely more than once. Why would I wear pants on a zoom?

00:55Yeah

00:56I'm not angling my camera down. Yeah, I see that as I'm currently wearing pants, but it's only because I had to rush it

01:02My house. Yeah, I've got sweats on or not sweats, but like I don't know what whatever that mesh material

01:08Pant on right now. I'm comfortable a coffin. You just broke the illusion

01:12You're sitting in front of this gorgeous view of downtown, Boston

01:15We all presumed you were sitting on top of a hotel right now and you're already said it was raining

01:20So you gave away all my secrets. Anyway, it does look that's true. That's show

01:25Beautiful day in the Boston skyline

01:27So as you can tell there's only so much to talk about with training camp approaching

01:32I do want to this is not going to be a conversation

01:34but I do want to say happy birthday to the departed red hour back if you know anyone was going to

01:41Put together and we're not for the love of God

01:44We're not gonna do this, but if someone was gonna do a Mount Rushmore of figures in Celtics history

01:48He's on the mountain. So happy birthday read for sure and I guess happy retirement

01:55Adrian Wojnarowski, I feel like you know, this this is big news in the media industry. We should bring this up

02:00I mean when I think of some bigger moments in Celtics transactional history, you know, namely the

02:07Is Al Horford coming to Boston? Oh wait, he's going to Washington. No wait. He's going to Boston

02:12I think about you know, Adrian Wojnarowski for sure

02:14But really the bigger thing is I I gotta ask you Jared because you're a you're in the media space

02:21You're a writer. You're a newsbreaker

02:23Are are you showering with the phone pressed up against the glass so you can see updates you you know?

02:31Go to the urinal holding your phone in one hand and your member in the other so you make sure you don't miss anything

02:36Big I mean the the tribute that Adam Schefter gave Woj about the life. He has lived on his way out the door

02:44Boy, I mean, it's it's not a life I would want and I commend him for doing it

02:48Obviously, but I I want to know to what levels this affects the average media person who is out there breaking stories

02:56Well, first off what person doesn't isn't on their phone while they're going to the bathroom

03:01But I I I am genuinely envious of any human being who isn't that addicted to their phone that they can just take a shit

03:07In peace. I wish I could do that

03:10The so what's funny about what Schefter was saying is that I think all those things would have been noteworthy like ten years ago

03:15But nowadays, it's just normal. Also any relatively new phone. I think is waterproof so you can bring it with you into the shower

03:25Well, it's funny actually my my phone screen was broken for like the last eight months

03:30So I haven't been able to do that. So I'm so scared. It's gonna get a ruined

03:32I found out at my actually have insurance that covers the screen repair

03:36So I just got a fix so life is a lot better. But I do remember before I was a

03:41actual reporter

03:42I went to the Sloan analytics conference in Boston years ago and Woj was speaking there and that was back when I was like

03:49Oh cool. Whoa, just sort of like oh, that's a guy I'm competing against well unsuccessful usually and he was talking about

03:56He was on some panel and he was talking about this is probably ten years ago

03:59how he had his wife like built a shelf in their shower so he could put his phone there and

04:05That was like everybody thought that was crazy at the time now

04:08It's like I have a little space in my shower kind of like on the doorframe where I leave my phone

04:13So during busy season, I absolutely take that with me

04:17Sometimes I shower with my Apple watch on just so I could get the notifications

04:21But I think during transactional season for sure. I am NOT detaching from my phone

04:26I have the screen up so I can see what's coming through while I'm in the shower

04:29I also like a good long shower

04:31So I probably wouldn't be able to get my work done if I wasn't doing it

04:37Like I I'm sorry if I just I'm fascinated by this dynamic and I don't think it's unique

04:42I think there are a lot of people out there that are doing this

04:44like you said

04:45it's it's sort of been normalized in the transition especially or the

04:49The industry especially in the you know day and age of social media and where we're at

04:53But still like I don't know. I mean

04:56Do you can you just not like go to a movie and disconnect for two hours during a busy season and and just yeah

05:03I mean you really like going to sleep at night must be a

05:07Stressful endeavor on yeah hours around trade deadlines and free agency

05:13No, there's I mean

05:15I'm not I'm not one of those superhumans like Rogen Shams who can just like

05:18When they say you pulled all nighter

05:20They mean like I literally never went to bed and I've been awake for 48 hours straight

05:23Like I can't really do that. I did that when the Celtics won the championship

05:27I think I got home that night from work at like 11 a.m. And I was basically in a coma for like two days

05:32Like I'm not physically capable of doing that stuff. I guess I wasn't I was younger but for me during those busy transactional windows

05:40I'll go to bed at like 2 in the morning set my alarm for 7 a.m

05:43I'm like, alright, I'm gonna get five hours of sleep

05:45So at least I can function the next day and my brain works and then I'll wake up after an hour freaking out and check

05:50My phone I'm up for two hours after that. So I go through that anxiety. I assume and for me

05:56It's like I'm trying to get something and you know, sometimes I'm successful a lot of the time

06:00I'm really close and then somebody beats me to it from that kind of like super reporter pool for those guys

06:05They're like actually on it and they're involved in it

06:08So it's like if they if they go away from their phone for a few minutes, they will miss something for me

06:14It's like I'm just trying to make sure that I don't miss something and usually if I'm away from my phone for like 10 minutes

06:19I'm not gonna miss anything

06:20But yeah

06:21if I put my phone down during busy season for two hours something's gonna come through that I'm gonna be behind on

06:27not a lifestyle that I envy honestly because like

06:30Shams talks have talked about it like how much he's on his phone and what is screen time usages?

06:36It might have been on with like, you know up in Adams at one of those like little shorts that comes out whenever those two

06:41Like get together. It was like, yeah, I mean time this week was no, I'm just gambling

06:46Like my screen time this week was like 20 hours like an average every day and I'm like

06:51I don't want to live that life. Like I just don't so kudos to all of you that that can do it cuz it's

06:56You know, you think it's fun, right? Oh, it must be fun being whoa. No, it's not. It's it's really not. Yeah, it's not

07:06Yeah, it was funny

07:07I saw it wasn't like Bill Simmons or something like that was

07:09Making fun of Adam Schafter tribute being like what was Cove it up was he like a doctor during kovat?

07:14It's like it's a different type of stress

07:17You know, you don't have I mean, well just a lot woes and charms

07:20Like those guys have an incredible amount of responsibility and power

07:23and

07:25You know, they don't have to deal with like the trauma of like a patient dying on you and stuff like that

07:29It's just a different type of stress and it's not gonna have the existential pressure that that stuff has but it's just a matter of

07:35Not being able to get away from it

07:37There's not a ton of professions that have that that feeling that like you cannot escape your responsibility in the job

07:43And so while like being a being like a medic in a war zone is definitely a more stressful difficult job

07:50It's a different type of pressure

07:52It's the I think we can we can laud those guys for the amount of work

07:56They do while also still respecting people that are in, you know, life-saving professions and things like that

08:01Yeah, I think the for me and and I'm sure I didn't listen to Simmons

08:05But I'm sure this is what he was getting at. It was hilarious

08:09That's great. I bet it was I I just

08:13I

08:14Couldn't if people can't tell watching or listening

08:17I truly could not have more appreciation for the job that Woj has done for decades

08:22And I mean there's like we all talk about the Woj bomb and having the notification set on Twitter and truly like, you know

08:29You see someone report a story and it's like well has Woj said anything yet? Like so there's yeah

08:34I mean there is a power and

08:36Influence and credibility and and all of that that that comes along with what he has done what Shams is doing what you know people

08:44So many others that you know attempt to do at that level within the industry

08:48which is not an easy thing obviously and you think of the chapters and the raps and that in NFL and others and other sports, but

08:55at the same time

08:58The announcement not from Woj the reaction

09:02Felt a bit over-the-top, you know to where like I was a little late

09:06I was doing other stuff whatever so I was a little late to social media and I missed the initial announcement of retirement and I

09:12Just start seeing all of these effectively for lack of a better word

09:16Eulogies and I really thought for a hot second Woj was dead

09:20That was what all the tributes sounded like when it was just you know

09:25So grateful to every like that and the man that he like he's gone

09:29Like he's complete and I just I don't know at a certain point in time

09:33I think we overdo the moment a little bit, you know, I mean he truly

09:38Yesterday got to kind of live his own funeral and and like credit to him

09:43I guess but I don't know like no one's gonna miss me like that when I'm gone outside of family and friends

09:50certainly not in the professional world and we're all replaceable even Woj like he's gonna

09:54Go away and Shams is gonna replace him and someone's gonna replace Shams eventually like that's just the way it works

10:00But I don't know some of this stuff I'm rambling but it's it gets a little over-the-top Jared I

10:07Mean I know I'm not gonna get that kind of reception when I retire one day. So

10:13That's right, that's I just want the Celtics to be usually eulogy

10:16I mean, I and I don't really have much of a relationship with Woj personally

10:20Obviously I've competed against him on on a lot of stories and I think that

10:25Woj for the people that he was allies with

10:27there's an incredible amount of respect and gratitude and appreciation and a lot of people that speak incredibly highly of him and as

10:34Much as he's probably a shark and ultra competitive

10:38It's like you can't you can't get to where you are in an industry like that without also being

10:43Empathetic and caring and make you know, and really touching people's lives as well. And so I think that

10:50Hearing from like people at ESPN both publicly and privately it seems like with him as much as as he's an extreme competitor

10:57he also did a lot of things to really

11:00Enhance people's careers and lives and stuff like that. And I think that's a huge part of it

11:04and then it's also just that like he he was a massive pioneer in our industry and completely changed our industry and

11:11he was kind of at the forefront of that and you know and then like other people like Shams have have come and have

11:16Kind of gotten to that level as well and and are gonna continue to innovate

11:20I'm sure Shams ten years from now is probably gonna be looked at as a as a game changer in our industry as well

11:26I mean he already is but like now it seems that now that Woj is retiring this kind of clears the way for him to

11:31You know kind of stand alone on the throne

11:34and

11:35Like that's I think these responses generally when you see people retire

11:39It's just a recognition of like this person

11:42Innovated and changed the way that we all perceive this sport and it's a huge

11:47Yeah

11:47but like him and Shams are a massive part of

11:50the evolution of this sport in the way that it's grown just from a fan base perspective in the social media age and it kind

11:55Of feels like while the ratings might not be there compared to football

11:59Like the NBA is kind of become the sport in America of the internet in the social media age

12:04And those two guys are a massive part of that

12:08No, it's for sure

12:08It's been that way for a long time in part because Adam silver and and so many others with the NBA like they get it

12:15They understand the importance of social media and don't you know place restrictions on putting highlights out there and don't crack down the same way

12:23That leagues like the NFL do that matters. I mean, that's why when it comes to that stuff NBA is absolutely king

12:29I just you know, and we'll move on from this because I'm sure our listeners are already bored from it

12:33I I think they're people are different, you know in in the way that

12:38Whatever you cover whatever industry you cover but locking in on what we're talking about

12:42Now people are very different the way they do their jobs

12:45Like I hope I'm you know, not being disrespectful in saying this

12:49I know you've broken lots of stories, but I don't think of you as a newsbreaker in the way that I think of you know

12:56Walter Shams is a newsbreaker, but I don't think of them as

13:00journalists and storytellers and

13:02Creative writers in the way that I think of you in that way

13:06So it's just like everyone is different in in sort of the lanes that they carve out within this business

13:11And there's there's a value which is sort of your point. There's a value to all of it, obviously, but I don't know. I mean, I

13:18Think you should take those long showers, buddy

13:20Don't worry about checking the Apple watch and you know to recognize that honestly like the the lane that you have carved out for yourself

13:27That doesn't even have to involve news breaking unless it's like first to a story

13:32But it you know, that's a detailed long like, you know long-form story not like so-and-so was traded to wherever kind of story

13:39You know you you're already hitting that out of the park on a daily basis, bud

13:43and and it seems like it would be a

13:46somewhat less stressful life to live I

13:49Appreciate that. Yeah, I know for me the the news breaking is it's it's it definitely is a part of the job

13:55it has to be if you want to you know, really last in this extremely difficult industry, but I

14:01Enjoy more the storytelling and the analysis part and for me

14:05The news breaking is is more just like a conduit to being able to tell the stories that I want to tell

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15:45All right, well speaking of stories

15:47We're running out of them as it comes to the Celtics and what to expect this coming season again

15:52Training camp is coming and games in Dubai are coming and media day is coming

15:57which is something I was saying to have you know before we started up like I used to be so glued to media day and

16:02listening to all the interviews and the quotes and you know, whether it was the

16:07Public setting interviews that happened in front of all you guys are the private ones that were just on

16:12Like the NBC Sports Boston and Celtics comm sets with D'Amico and you know

16:18Formerly flew grad and whoever else. I I don't know. I I

16:22Guess I'm I'm a little I'm not I'm no less interested in the team

16:26So for anyone out there watching or listening don't confuse that

16:29I'm a little less interested in some of those interviews in part because I feel like one

16:34they want a championship and we've been hearing from these guys all summer long with no delay and

16:40Also, there's just not anything they can tell us right now that would be especially interesting

16:45like the last couple of years it was well, all right, he may is gone

16:49How are they gonna react to that for sure or hey, you know, they they they they fell short in the finals

16:55How are they gonna react to that or how like what how are they gonna bounce back from year one under Joe?

17:00What are the expectations year two and they've they've made these roster changes smarts gone and Williams is gone

17:06The other Williams is gone. You brought in Chris Stapps. You brought in, you know, drew like what is this gonna look like?

17:11But this they're just running it back chasing championship now, which is awesome

17:16That's a great spot to be in but in terms of like media day in the ramp up to the year

17:20We've talked about everything like everybody's

17:24stories out there right now are

17:26You know your big questions going into training camp. We've hit all this stuff. It's the you know

17:32It's the you know, how's how's

17:34Missoula gonna keep everyone fired up and how's you know

17:38How are J and the both the J's Tatum and Brown gonna respond to offseason disrespect at the Olympics and you know?

17:46Lack of MVPs or all NBA or whatever else like what what for you Jared because I know you've written

17:53Recently as well both for the athletic and you can see his work in the New York Times about you know

17:58The big questions entering the season

18:00I mean truly what is the biggest question in your mind going into the year that you truly find interesting?

18:08it's a good question, I think the

18:11The Jalen and Jason thing is what I think will be most interesting to the public just because it's the one

18:17It's the one underdog

18:20Uphill battle aspect to what these guys have

18:22I think that nobody gets

18:24Too interested in a like can't this team repeat kind of thing because it's like they're already won

18:29So like of course they can repeat

18:31But at least Joe is making it interesting like when he was talking to Corrales and he wanted the red dot on his forehead and stuff

18:37Like that like at least Joe will find a way to make it fun

18:40You know and like Tatum he's spoken the athletic about the whole Olympic experience

18:45I think he did an interview about it also right after the Olympics

18:48So he's kind of talked about it for the most part as much as he can

18:51He'll get asked about it again, but there's not a ton of new ground to break there

18:54I think Jalen who's just had a pretty a pretty active offseason. He's the one that's gonna

18:59There's gonna be the most to talk about with him

19:02We'll see if someone asked Eric white about somebody trying to get in a fight with him at the Colorado football team

19:07That was that was a boat. I don't know what happened there

19:09I haven't even asked anybody about it, but like Derek white of all people getting in a fight is definitely shocking

19:15He's generally that he's like the nicest most gentle guy, but so

19:20Yeah, there's that he's your buddy from Boston and um, you know Porzingis

19:26That's the piece of doubt right there is just like I assume Porzingis is gonna talk and we're gonna get his first update at Media

19:32Day and so they'll be that piece of doubt to so but everyone's back

19:38Everyone's getting paid

19:40So I guess it's just people could make narratives about like what's gonna happen with the sale and will this team stick around forever

19:45And that kind of stuff, but there's there's not a ton of new ground to break with this team and we know that and so

19:52Good luck to everybody all of us covering the Celtics on media day trying to make things interesting. Well, everybody will find a way

19:59What are the things that I think is interesting about this upcoming season Jared?

20:03I like the fact that you're on for this because you have I think a little bit better insight than most people that cover this

20:08Like just they had a great season historically amazing, you know

20:13You can break down all the numbers as much as you want

20:15But in year two of this there needs to be some sort of evolution

20:19There has to be something that's different some it's changed something that's better

20:23In the year previously and again, you're a guy that dives into the X's and O's and you can really explain it extremely

20:29Well to the audience, so I'm asking you Jared. What are you expecting?

20:34For the second iteration of this group

20:37are we expecting any big dramatic changes and your

20:41conversations with people across league or is this like one of these things where it's like

20:45No, they're probably just gonna do the same thing

20:46Maybe some slight tweaks here and there but for the most part they're gonna be relatively the same unit because you know

20:51They were so good last year. Why we don't if it's not broken. Why fix it? You know, I mean

20:56No, I mean something has to change because they don't have presingas for so long. And so

21:02Last year they kind of just rode this wave for the first almost half of the season of

21:08We have KP and we can pretty much use them wherever we want

21:12And so for a couple segments of this game, we're just gonna slow it down to just KP

21:17Working out of a post up from anywhere on the court essentially and that just it may think so easy for them

21:23because they could just

21:24They finally have this way to get through lulls in the game and they're not gonna have that for a while

21:29And so they probably have to change things up about the way their offense operates early on and like I know that obviously they played

21:36Well without him they won a championship. So like that's that's pretty good, right?

21:40but it's gonna be different during the regular season because like one the way that they have to pace guys they can't just play Horford a

21:47ton of minutes and

21:49Horford while he obviously should be able to do I think a lot of what he does

21:52Once you get past Warford, the offensive versatility is extremely limited with their center rotation. So

21:59Missoula's gonna have to do something a little bit different than what he did last year and also what they did last year

22:05teams were

22:07Probably had trouble preparing for it for most of the season because what they were doing was a little bit unique and they were so versatile

22:14But you give teams an offseason to go through all that. They've got their ideas of how they want to attack it

22:19It's it's it's hard to defend a title because it's hard to still be ahead of the curve against the NBA

22:26Unless you have like Steph Curry and Kevin Durant and then you're like, whatever

22:29We'll just hit a million shots Celtics aren't quite like that

22:32And so there's definitely room for regression with this team and I think if they regress

22:37I think they kind of just fall back towards being at the front of the pack as opposed to having a gap between them

22:43and the rest of the league but

22:45Joe, Missoula has proven to be pretty

22:49Since a pretty creative. He's really creative. He's really creative. He's really ambitious. He likes trying stuff

22:53He's really good at fitting how he thinks to the roster

22:57And I think the fact that they have effectively the same roster this year

23:02Means that he doesn't even have to learn how to make things work. And so whatever other ideas he had

23:07They're probably implementing those this year and they're gonna they're gonna have to do something different

23:11and I think what's good about this team is that

23:13While they were so much like we'll just play out of whatever based on what the personnel is their personnel

23:19Not only are they versatile enough to do that?

23:20they're also skilled enough that if they want to be like we're gonna force our force the opponent's hand and not just

23:27React to how they're playing us and actually play the way that we want to

23:30They still have a bunch of ways that they can do that. I

23:34Appreciate too that would Joe I feel like and we've done this a fair amount

23:38I guess over the course of the offseason, but I just don't think we can

23:43praise Lod

23:46Discuss Joe Missoula enough, you know, there there are a lot of people that still have their doubts. There are people that still I

23:53Still see it on social media like even today, you know, I was you know in the search engine on Twitter

23:58You know search Celtics and like immediately something popped up again comparing Missoula to email

24:04I just I don't get it. I don't know why you

24:08Might if you are out there still have a preference for the reverse especially in the wake of winning a championship

24:15but that to me at that point in time becomes less about coaching and more about I don't you just have a

24:21Personality issue with Joe Missoula or something like that, but I just think Joe

24:26Is obviously an exceptional young head coach who hopefully will be around for a long time and to your point

24:32I mean if there was ever anyone that I I

24:35Don't doubt is just sitting around with all of his free time and like napkins or

24:41Notebooks or what it like he's just constantly like what about this? What about this?

24:45What about this thinking about how they could do something differently in the upcoming year like?

24:49Jalen Brown has made the comment in the past about after they were celebrated at Fenway that

24:55You know, they're probably gonna have you know us out there doing some drill that revolves around us playing shortstop or Missoula

25:01They will yeah and Missoula talking with Corrales about how you know

25:05He went to the theater and and got lost in not in the show

25:09But in thinking about how these performers go from singing to talking to sing to talking and what must their breathing exercises be like

25:16I mean like this guy he doesn't shut off

25:18He doesn't it doesn't stop like we know what he may was doing with his free time and Brad

25:23I assume was mostly family-based. I don't think Joe ever steps away from this mentally and

25:30Again, like have you were saying earlier there?

25:32There was a poll during the week that ranked Missoula like 11th in the NBA among head coaches or something like that

25:38How is I not properly getting his do Jared I

25:42Think I saw that email was ranked ahead of him in that list and I think he's a really good coach

25:48but like Joe had an

25:50unbelievable coaching performance last year that was one of the best recent memory and

25:55Like a coach can only coach the roster they're given, right?

25:58so if you want to credit the roster in the front office for the reason why they went last year like sure but

26:03Joe like Joe changed that team pretty significantly last year and

26:09Joe Joe was able to make it work from a chemistry and an external perspective in a way that like

26:15The coaches before him didn't quite pull off

26:18and health was a huge part of that for sure both with them and the opponent and

26:23They won the title easily because of the health of the rest of the NBA

26:28They I think they still wouldn't want the championship no matter who they face and how healthy those teams were

26:32But they like the reason why they dominated was because of health. Yeah. Yeah, so but I think I think they're still the best team

26:38The league I think they still are the favorite someone last this upcoming season and they would have won last year

26:43I think no matter what happened and so

26:45Joe

26:46Joe deserves a ton of credit because he's both really good at managing his players and he's super creative on X and O's and he's

26:52really focused and committed and usually coaches generally only check off two of the three and

26:58He checks all those boxes off

26:59he's an amazing coach and the other funny thing with coaching is that

27:03coaches don't have credibility and then very suddenly they get it and like Joe went from having

27:08No credibility in year one to like having a good amount of credibility in year two

27:13And then by the end of it now, he's a champion and he's this there's a cult of personality around him

27:17And so, you know those perceptions change pretty rapidly. So I almost

27:21Applaud that coaching ranking for not falling into that trap

27:24But I think anybody who's watched what's happening with the Celtics the last couple years under Missoula can see that he's a he's a great

27:31Coach, he's definitely one of the top coaches in the NBA

27:34Yeah, I keep going back to that interview

27:36he had with Redick like preseason last year and how just

27:41He just seemed way more relaxed as someone who had gone through

27:45all the trials and tribulations of being a head coach and all the things that go along with

27:49with planning throughout the year and he just had a little bit more of a calm to him and now

27:53Like what I love about Joe is that he's authentically Joe Missoula

27:57He's just just as to he is and what's the best part is is it's translated from top to bottom

28:04Everybody's on the same page or this the message. It's the same

28:07Everybody's picking up what everybody's throwing down so to speak and you know as you come around to

28:12You know this potential sale and Simmons and Lowe talked about this on their podcast this week, which is you know, so what a lightning

28:18You don't want to screw this up like that's that's at this point the Celtics are and we can't screw this up mode like this

28:24Is too good. You know, we have a great front office. We have a great coaching staff

28:29We have great players like we can't we can't upset the apple cart at this point

28:33This is just too good and you look at all the teams around the league

28:37That are dysfunctional the common thread that you'll find is like there's dysfunction throughout the entire

28:45Organization like as much as it pains to say the Pistons have been a mess

28:49Well, it feels like since the old Ford Pistons, right that ended that era ended

28:53Tayshawn Prince and and all the Wallace's they all leave and all of a sudden now they haven't found their footing sense, right?

29:00Charlotte, I mean we hope with Charles Lee as a head coach

29:04They seem to figure things out

29:05but that's been a disaster like Sacramento has had versions of this up and down now with Mike Brown seems a little better as

29:11As you get closer to the season is it comforting knowing like oh

29:17I know I've relationship with everybody in the building if I need to build the story

29:20I know exactly how to talk to everybody like I'll

29:23Reach out to Jared every once in a while coughing about some questions that'll ask

29:27During press conferences and I appreciate some of the tones in which you ask them in but how much easier does that make your job?

29:33As we get ready for what is a title defense season now?

29:37I know primarily, you know Celtics are our big topic within everybody

29:41But the fact that you have connections with everybody in the building

29:45It's stayed the same relatively throughout past couple years. How much does how much easier does that make your job?

29:52Yeah, it helps. Well, I guess the funny thing is

29:55If new people come into the building then that gives you an opportunity as a reporter to be like, hey, I'm Jared

30:01Let me help you get your you know get situated in the city or whatever

30:05I mean, I don't really I don't do like disingenuous kind of thing

30:08But like this team doesn't really have much change in their front office

30:12They they they lost their GM and then didn't really change anything about the structure of their front office below him

30:18That never really happens

30:19There's been incredible stability with this organization ever since like gross back in Pagliuca took over what 22 years ago

30:28They've had probably less change and almost any other franchise out there

30:32And that's a big part of why they've been consistently good

30:35Is that because their front office personnel has pretty much stayed the same for a while now

30:41they don't have new front offices come in and shift direction and

30:45Clear house and a lot of the time when a new front office comes in and they want a clear house on everything

30:51It's not an efficient way to get business done

30:54So you lose value there and the Celtics have never had to do that

30:57They also because of the Nets trade with to get JT and JB

31:02They got this like almost unprecedented gift of we can do whatever we want to build a good team

31:08We're also having to blue chip prospects come into their wings

31:11So like that that was just like something that age put into place that just like can't

31:15It's a cheat code to building a franchise and there's I'm sure there's other examples kind of like it

31:20But like there's nothing really like that like that was that that was unreal and that's why the Celtics have had this very unique

31:26Window of competition that like no very few franchises have been able to pull off and so

31:33You know their front office like the decision-making tree in their front office is relatively small. It's probably smaller than most organizations

31:40I mean, they've definitely built out their staff more over the last few years, but they keep a pretty tight-knit circle

31:45And so with the Celtics, it's like you kind of have a pretty clear understanding of how they operate and who they are

31:51You know

31:52One of their strengths has been that they're pretty flexible and they're amenable in how they build a team and stuff like that

31:59You look at like a few years ago

32:02they had a window where they had basically like four wings and they

32:07they're kind of building like almost like a four wing lineup with Horford at the five and

32:11They were trying to be ahead of the curve on versatility and you know

32:14Because of Hayward's health like that team didn't work out and then you look at last year

32:19it was a little bit different but kind of a similar iteration of the concept while also integrating the fact that the center position is

32:25Kind of you know flourished again and had a revolution over these last few years

32:28and so you can see that there are some kind of core tenets that the philosophies of how this

32:34Front office builds a team and you can see some kind of like threads of that over the course of the last decade

32:41And so they're really good about like kind of having their belief system

32:44Without being so locked into it that they have these huge blind spots

32:47And I think that's a big part of why they're successful

32:49But probably the main reason they're successful is because they cheated the NBA and were able to get Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum while also building

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35:03a great team a championship level team that you know went out and won like you said and we've all discussed is obviously

35:10Positioned to go and repeat and so you mentioned earlier. Can they repeat? Of course, they can repeat. They just won

35:16They brought everybody back. And yeah, there are some injuries, but they're not going to be season-long injuries

35:21You hope I mean Chris taps gonna be back and Orford is gonna be load managed until he's not you get to the playoffs and

35:28All that you just hope come April. You're a healthy team. That's that's the bottom line

35:32whatever happens before that happens, but if you were looking at it right now and

35:37Knowing full well that it's hard to go back-to-back team hasn't done it in a handful of years in the NBA and that

35:44Luck is very important. There was a lot of bad injury luck over the years under Brad Stevens, especially if you're taking

35:52You know Celtics or the field after what we saw last year going into this year. Who do you think wins?

35:59Well, they statistically ever picking one team over the field is supposed to be wrong, but like that's annoying

36:04So I'd pick the Celtics I think

36:06I mean you look at the field and the teams that you feel like are really built at this point to win the championship are

36:14New York

36:15OKC and I guess Denver just like I'm never gonna rule out Denver and then

36:22Minnesota

36:23Philly and then you'll tell me who I'm forgetting off the top of my head

36:26but like those are the teams that kind of like jump out as like also certainly would like us to say like, you know,

36:32Dallas or yeah, Dallas. Yeah, I won't put Phoenix there yet. But yeah, Dallas

36:39I'll put there to just like Dallas. I thought had a pretty bad finals

36:42And so like there's still a lot of upside for tell us to play really well

36:47So yeah

36:48Did you look at like the Phoenix's and the Milwaukee's like those are teams that are that certainly can pull off a huge bounce back?

36:54For sure, and then maybe Indiana all their players

36:57So still play really well, and they win 75 games just because they have like a 12-man rotation. That's really good

37:02So and there's probably a team in the West. I'm forgetting right now off the top of my head

37:07No, you're somebody

37:10No, I mean too early for Houston you're doing fine and the Lakers are the Clippers and the in the Warriors

37:17I'm not really I'm not considering them in the same strategy as teams

37:21And then of course, there's the Spurs as when B wins MVP as the average is a quadruple double so we can't forget that

37:27I mean, they'll be part of the conversation eventually, but they're not there. Yeah. Yeah, and hey, maybe Memphis

37:32Maybe Memphis just has like one of the great bounce-back seasons ever. That would be fun

37:36And sorry to Cleveland and Orlando fans. I'm not I'm not pumping your team up there yet. But you know

37:43Talking about a championship contender. We can't name half the NBA

37:46What you can that's the way the NBA works right now Dallas was what were they like the fifth seed last year and they made

37:52The finals so you can name

37:5425 teams before you're like, all right, technically we are done with the contenders

37:58But like the Celtics the Celtics like not having perzing is the first three months or whatever

38:05It'll end up being it doesn't really matter

38:07I don't think it matters for them because

38:09This team knows that they're gonna be a top three seed pretty much no matter what they do

38:13They know that they're gonna have to kind of coast a little bit during the regular season

38:17Like they know that's how it's gonna work

38:18Anyway, and they have more than enough time to get presenting it's integrated and up to speed like they've got months and months and months

38:24To do that. So they know that there are team that's playing for the postseason and they know that they are built for the postseason

38:29So there's just like there's nothing about the way that this like there's nothing about

38:34the current health prospects of this team based on what we saw last year to presume that they're not going to be positioned to

38:40win the championship again and

38:42Even if the rest of the league catches up to them

38:44They still are built in a way that unless some guys have huge offensive regressions

38:49Like they're still built in a way to win

38:51I think it mostly comes down to like Tatum and Brown are they still committed to playing the way they did last year?

39:00Totally great not gonna fight you on that. No way you can fight me. I love a good fight. Go for it

39:05Not about that. I totally agree. I think I look there

39:10They're loaded they're loaded and as long as everybody stays healthy, they'll be they'll be involved in the postseason

39:16So they will be involved. I assume so

39:19Yeah, I mean look this and they know what they're capable of when healthy

39:24So there's not gonna be this push like there's been maybe in the past quietly for a number one seat

39:31Either or you know X number of wins or even necessarily having to have home court now

39:36They're talented enough that certainly a top four seed should just happen naturally barring some devastating injury, obviously

39:44But whether they're the one or the two like who cares it doesn't matter

39:47What matters are are they healthy when they get into the dance and then you know

39:52They can set themselves apart obviously and hope there isn't some

39:56Absurd bad luck shooting the three or something

39:58but I mean what they did last year and we've we've relived it enough times maybe not enough times is

40:05Just I mean, it's it's crazy. It's it's crazy how

40:09well built how well rounded they are and

40:13What they're capable of and that's obviously of truly making a run and when I say a run

40:18I mean a title run not just a run throughout this year, you know multiple championships

40:23Which is what everyone's got their eyes on at this point, but all right

40:26It's good place to wrap there again media day and training camp and all of it

40:31Right around the corner Jared and you know

40:33I'm sure much more in store for you and your reporting and everything is as we inch closer to the season as well

40:40so we always enjoy when you hop on with us and

40:43We'll look forward to whatever story you're pumping out next

40:47whatever

40:49Anything you want to promote before you go or should we just watch for you on social media?

40:53Yeah, stay tuned. I got I got plenty more coming next week. So stay tuned

40:57All right, beautiful get Jared on twitter at Jared Weiss NBA because that's what he covers folks for Evan. I am Adam

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