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Support the show: https://www.patreon.com/branham   Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts: https://william-branham.org/podcast   Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR: Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962 Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K  In this episode of the William Branham Historical Research Podcast, the hosts John Collins and John McKinnon dive deep into the history of Christian identity and Christian Nationalism, its roots in early Christian fundamentalism, and its influence on the modern New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). They explore how figures like Wesley Swift and Gerald L. K. Smith shaped Christian identity, promoting doctrines of white supremacy and anti-Semitism that later merged with Pentecostalism and influenced movements like Latter Rain and the NAR. The discussion highlights the complex history of these figures, their influence on political and religious movements, and the consequences of their ideologies, which continue to impact certain Christian circles today.  The conversation also touches on the significant events and connections between various individuals and organizations that facilitated the spread of Christian identity. The hosts discuss the strategic blending of religious and political agendas, the manipulation of Christian doctrines to support racist ideologies, and how these elements were passed down through generations of Pentecostal and Charismatic movements. This episode provides a thorough examination of the sinister underpinnings of certain doctrines that have infiltrated modern Christian movements, emphasizing the importance of understanding this history to recognize its ongoing influence.  00:00 Introduction   01:04 Weaponized Religion and the NAR   02:23 Wesley Swift and Christian Identity   04:47 Connection Between Pentecostalism and Christian Identity   06:11 Wesley Swift's Role in Pentecostalism   09:04 The Rise of Christian Identity in America   13:43 The Rebranding of the Ku Klux Klan   17:02 Gerald L. K. Smith's Political Influence   19:03 Gerald L. K. Smith and Anti-Semitism   24:01 The Committee of 1 Million   30:03 Influence of Gerald L. K. Smith on the NAR   34:07 The Rebirth of the Klan in California   40:01 William Branham's Connection to Christian Identity   45:01 Legacy of Christian Identity in Modern Movements   49:01 Conclusion and Reflections  ______________________ – Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham – Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ – Visit the website: https://william-branham.org – Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg  – Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham – Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr – Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

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00:00:00You

00:00:31Hello and welcome to another episode of the William Branham historical research podcast

00:00:37I'm your host John Collins the author and founder of William Branham historical research at

00:00:42William dash Branham org and with me I have my co-host researcher and friend John McKinnon

00:00:49author of the persuasive preacher the gifted prophet and the noble politician and

00:00:54Together we're discussing

00:00:56weaponized religion how Christian identity fused with early Christian fundamentalism and

00:01:01politics to form the foundation for the new apostolic Reformation

00:01:07John

00:01:08Today is a it's going to be a great day when the podcast released

00:01:12But as you and I discussed before we even started this I was

00:01:17Diving deep into the theme of weaponized religion as it relates to the NAR

00:01:22With the purpose of the research that was going into this podcast would be going into the book and

00:01:28as of last weekend, I finished the

00:01:31finished the final chapter and we've began editing and

00:01:35I think the timing is such that it will come out slightly before this podcast release

00:01:40But now the book which is called weaponized religion from Christian identity to the NAR

00:01:47That will be available with many of the things that we've explored in this podcast

00:01:52But some some other things as well as it relates to the current day and age. So

00:01:58that book will be out soon and

00:02:01We the focus today

00:02:03We're getting into Wesley Swift. You can't mention Christian identity without mentioning Wesley Swift

00:02:10He is the one that shaped it into what we even call Christian identity today

00:02:15It existed in various forms, but much differently back then

00:02:19so the book takes what Wesley Swift and others working with him created and

00:02:25then ties it to the modern day to the New Apostolic Reformation and

00:02:30How it entered into the New Apostolic Reformation through all of the various?

00:02:35apostolic networks that

00:02:37Comprise this NAR movement, so I'm excited for today

00:02:41We've got way too much to explore that we could possibly pack into one episode

00:02:46But if if we miss something that's interesting you can get it in the book

00:02:51Yeah, John, I'm excited about your book coming out. I think

00:02:54Reading a little bit of the draft first draft. You've got there

00:02:57There's there's gonna be a lot of stuff packed in that book a lot of things are so everything is cited

00:03:02Everything is researched well researched. So it will be a great book

00:03:07So I'm really looking forward to that but yeah

00:03:09we're gonna get into these two figures that were pretty powerful in their day and

00:03:14They lived through a time and and gathered a lot of people under their wing

00:03:18One was on more of the political side and the other one was more on the religious side

00:03:22And we saw that same combination in Davis and Branham, you know, Davis was political

00:03:29Religious and Branham stayed in the religious side, but it was a key time

00:03:33You know an American religious and secular political history, you know, the World War two was just ending up the healing revival was just kicking off

00:03:42Times were getting better. The Depression was nearly over and

00:03:46financially, everybody was doing much better and

00:03:49Nations were becoming better off financially overall, you know, maybe the debt was lower much lower than it is today

00:03:56And so this first wave of the Pentecostal revival, you know

00:04:00Just been cooling off and the leaders of that movement were dying and people were looking to the next wave

00:04:05so we're gonna get into these next wave here and and what really took place and how how they brought people under their

00:04:13Wing and how they spread these doctrines

00:04:16Absolutely before we get into it

00:04:19You know

00:04:19a lot of people are unaware of this history and I have a lot of it published in the website and you know on the

00:04:26book, but

00:04:27There is a there's a significant history that happened in Los Angeles. We have through the course of this podcast

00:04:35talked about the events leading up to the what I call the epicenter of all of this in the 1940s, but

00:04:42There's a little bit of history that I have to give dating back to the 20s before we get into talking about Wesley Swift

00:04:48Because it is significant. Not many people realize how

00:04:53Deeply embedded the Pentecostal movement was with Christian identity and

00:04:59We're going to focus briefly. I'll focus briefly on the the connection between the Angelus temple

00:05:06That's Amy Semple McPherson's four square gospel church

00:05:10and the background leading up into the creation of Wesley Swift and

00:05:15You know Christian identity

00:05:17We had previously talked about Gerald Burton Winrod who was also a significant Christian identity figure who was spreading the

00:05:26protocols of the learned elders of Zion throughout the United States, but

00:05:30in 1922

00:05:32McPherson addressed an assembled delegation of Klan members in a town hall and

00:05:38That was significant, you know McPherson if you study her history

00:05:43She pretends that she is distancing herself from the Klan and she has this very very obviously staged event where

00:05:52these

00:05:53Numerous Klan members enter into her church and they say praise God. I've got Jesus and they unmask themselves

00:06:00very clearly a staged event, but in

00:06:041926 when McPherson was facing felony charges

00:06:08she turned to the Klan for help and she began saying that she was

00:06:13the target of a Roman Catholic plot

00:06:16which you know tied deeply to this Jewish conspiracy that was being raised and she began appealing to the Ku Klux Klan for

00:06:23assistance and

00:06:26In the 30s, which was just you know, not long after that just a few years after that

00:06:32Swift converted to Pentecostal ism. So who we consider today to be

00:06:38You can't really call him the father because he didn't birth it but he is probably the most

00:06:43notorious significant figure in Christian identity

00:06:47Wesley a Swift

00:06:49He was a Pentecostal and in the early 30s. He enrolled at Life Bible College in Angelus Temple

00:06:56and from the 1930s through the 1940s Swift was a minister at Angelus Temple and

00:07:03You know when I talk about the epicenter in the 1940s, well now we're entering into approximately 1940

00:07:10I think it was

00:07:121938 was the year where Gerald Burton Winrod spoke

00:07:16Just days after the night of broken glass whenever all of the Jews were being when the real persecution started for the Jews

00:07:24So in the 30s to 40s

00:07:26You've got Gordon Lindsay who was a leader in the four-square Church

00:07:31You've got Wesley Swift who was a minister at Angelus Temple in the four-square Church

00:07:36You've got Frida Lindsay

00:07:38who was a

00:07:40she was enrolled at Life Bible College the same college that Swift got his ministerial training in and

00:07:47in

00:07:481940 Lindsay was appointed to become

00:07:51I think it's called field extension work for four square. Basically. It was growing the denomination

00:07:57So Lindsay's a key figure in Angelus Temple in the four-square gospel

00:08:03Denomination Swift is right there at the headquarters Church

00:08:07Frida Lindsay's involved and you've got Winrod who is another Christian identity leader

00:08:15connected to this church and

00:08:17If you study the background of Swift Swift was

00:08:22indoctrinated into Christian identity

00:08:24through Gerald Burton Winrod who was the American Nazi, so you've got all of this history coming together and

00:08:32When we in our last episode we brought Davis and William Upshaw into the scene there in Los Angeles San Bernardino area

00:08:40Swift is the one who launched the Klan which we'll get into in this in this episode

00:08:45He rebirthed the Klan in California. So we've got a lot to cover

00:08:49But the background of Swift is that he was a Pentecostal. He was tied to the Pentecostal movement

00:08:54he was connected to key figures in the latter rain movement and

00:09:00He is central. He's the central hub from which all of this Christian identity

00:09:05started to spread throughout the United States and it spread in Pentecostal ism more than more than other denominations because of Swift

00:09:14Yeah, it sure did and you know

00:09:16It's it's a unique time in history because I think during this time in the 40s

00:09:20There were people already being groomed for the last 15 to 20 years. You know, you had Davis grooming Branham

00:09:26you had these doctrines that were in place from the people we talked about back in the 1800s that were just sitting there and

00:09:33And you got people like Swift that embraced those and and they were very popular people amongst people

00:09:40they were able to speak and be very

00:09:43Dominant and what they said enough so that people called on and listened they had a voice

00:09:49Talent for speaking and people heard them and that's that's what caused this thing to spread a lot

00:09:53and it was just a prejudice embedded in the people of America at the time and it just was came at that that

00:10:00Juncture and just caused people to embrace it

00:10:02but there were many that took up the banner there and just carried it carried that torch and

00:10:07Caused many to believe the doctrines things that we've been discussing like the Serpent Sea Christian identity

00:10:12Kingdom and Dominion theology and

00:10:15Now the generation there has died out in our day

00:10:18You know in the all the charismatic renewals that came along

00:10:21That is funny that the new philosophy is born out which takes bits and pieces of all that the latter rain teaching

00:10:28sometimes bits and pieces of the identity doctrine

00:10:31Replacement theology of the Jews and others and that and they didn't form a single group this time

00:10:36But they've got a no single headquarters

00:10:38but they've managed to have a network with a common purpose and it's spread around the world now as we've seen through the NAR and

00:10:46It they have their apostles and prophets is is the way they've set their network up and they actually hear from God direct the church

00:10:53So you've got just a very few men that really are the ones

00:10:57Supposedly hearing from God and giving people a lot of direction

00:11:00So there's a big group of people under that as well and it's all because of everything coming together

00:11:06You've got gifted men that are gifted for speaking and you've got them trying to display some gifts and people were just caught up into

00:11:12That thinking it's a move of God

00:11:14But our two main players today Gerald Smith and Wesley Swift, you know, they were able to gather a following to and promote their doctrines

00:11:22They're destructive to the nation, but they they still exist today

00:11:25You know Swift's doctrines went to the aberrant far, right?

00:11:29and that's where all these far right groups basically came out of was what was started by Swift and

00:11:36he was a more militant form of

00:11:39Pentecostalism and especially with the extremist white supremacy

00:11:43But these these men were just two examples of the era that represent an abundance of those strong orators

00:11:48That were able to gather a following and we've seen that in the way what we came out of

00:11:53but they were out of World War two and I think people were looking to ease the pain of the war and they were looking for

00:12:00The next thing to come along to to give them some comfort and the religious healing revival came at that time

00:12:06And it gave the population something to hold on to but you also had all these other factors working with them at the same time

00:12:13So intertwined with that healing revival was that push for political power and the teachings of the Christian identity

00:12:20And the white dominated society really was the arm of pushing

00:12:25political power along with the religious power at the same time and those men rose up and they gained a following based on those

00:12:32prejudices and

00:12:33You know people just seemed to be more gullible back then or either more trusting of others and they were easily convinced in those times

00:12:41Of limited information, you know, we have the internet today

00:12:44We can look up a person's background pretty quickly if they're popular and they've got some information out there and we can find out who they

00:12:50Are but back then you just didn't have that

00:12:52So a person with a strong convincing boy voice was just able to sway a large segment of people and that's what they did

00:12:59Swayed a large segment of the Christian population on any topic and as long as they mixed it with Scripture enough

00:13:05And which they did and they tried to prove their Christian identity was from Scripture that you know

00:13:11the white people were God's real chosen people not the not the Jews and

00:13:16And then they gave their people an enemy to focus on and that's usually how this happens is once you give people an enemy

00:13:22Then they can have something to unite under and so the common enemy

00:13:26Of course was Jews immigrants Catholics and and people of color. So that gave them the common enemy and it was just natural

00:13:35At the time for people to fall into that with the way the nation was structured at the time

00:13:40It was and this was a time. Remember the Klan had gone largely underground

00:13:45after they were exposed in the 20s for

00:13:48You know domestic terrorism all of all the bad things that were associated with the 1915 Klan

00:13:55They largely went underground they emerged a very briefly in Indiana

00:14:01William Branham's home state

00:14:03until that fizzled out because DC Stevenson fell which we talked about in the podcast, but

00:14:09in the 40s, it was being rebranded and

00:14:13It almost you know from all the pieces of the puzzle that we have and will never ever have them all

00:14:18It really looks like Davis

00:14:20Decided to try on the west coast what he and Simmons had tried on the east coast

00:14:25with different groups of people different style different branding

00:14:29different strategies

00:14:31Davis is connected to the Los Angeles elite and

00:14:35Here you've got you know

00:14:37Hollywood, you know all of the

00:14:40Film industries that was developing. It was the early film industry. You've got all of this coming together and

00:14:46Swift was instrumental in bringing all of that together

00:14:52he was the president of the anglo-saxon Christian Society and

00:14:57We've explored I think briefly we mentioned it but up in Canada

00:15:02You've got Clem Davies who is working in the anglo-saxon

00:15:08Christian world I think it was

00:15:10He was he was a recruiter for the Klan from his church. He was a very

00:15:15Very popular guy up in Canada the Kardashian family

00:15:20Let me say that again the Kardashian family

00:15:24Sponsored Clem Davies to come down into LA

00:15:28Not long after this epicenter began and Clem Davies was you know?

00:15:34He was widely known as a Christian identity guy

00:15:38he believed that the same things that Wesley Swift and

00:15:42Gerald Winrod were spreading Clem Davies was spreading in Canada

00:15:46So the Kardashians bring him down and I won't go deep into it into this episode. We'll probably cover this a bit later, but

00:15:54the nephew of the

00:15:57Kardashian patriarch was the founder of the full gospel businessmen's fellowship international

00:16:04So this brought the entertainment industry into it. It brought

00:16:08Entertainment intertwined with Christian identity

00:16:11You've got you know that these these people who?

00:16:16Migrated to the United States in the Los Angeles and the Palm Springs area

00:16:21They were they were the business in the business elite. They had all the vineyards, etc

00:16:28Very very rich or very wealthy people

00:16:31connected to all of this so

00:16:34From that route you you can easily make make the leap between

00:16:38The Kardashian family and the entertainment style that would make its way into what we see in the NAR today

00:16:45But before we go there

00:16:47We really need to understand the history of Gerald LK Smith

00:16:52because his role in Christian identity when it combined with the role of Wesley Swift and

00:16:58Brought Smith's politics and to Swift's Christian identity

00:17:03That's where this really began to transition into something that was far more sinister. Yeah, and you mentioned earlier

00:17:11About Amy simple McPherson. She was all about entertainment

00:17:15I mean more than a gospel church and she the more spectacular she could make her services

00:17:21Do you know the the more people loved her? So yeah, she was a start of entertainment gospel and

00:17:28She did can you imagine all those hooded Klansmen coming into her church? I mean that was probably a spectacular show and

00:17:34And people put up with that. I don't I don't know how they did but it was just all for show and

00:17:40She was a master at that

00:17:42But Gerald Smith, he was very important in developing, you know Christian identity

00:17:48As far as the political side of it for what would become the political orientation of that movement

00:17:53He was a very important person and he espoused a right-wing populism and anti-compete

00:18:00communism that became a very central component of the early Christian identity groups and

00:18:06It was about 1929. He was a pastor at a church in Louisiana Shreveport, Louisiana

00:18:12of all places and then

00:18:15He kind of broke away from his family and he was alleged to be a member of the Ku Klux Klan

00:18:19So probably likely he was a minister

00:18:22And the Klan when he was in Indiana when it was in the 1920s when the Klan did have a stronghold there and

00:18:29About 1933. He said he wrote to a returning visitor from journey

00:18:33He says I am anxious to get in touch with his honor Adolf Hitler

00:18:37But knowing that you are recently removed from Germany before doing so I desire your opinion of the conditions in the country

00:18:43They look good to me. So already you see a

00:18:47Affection or a fascination with what Hitler was doing in Germany

00:18:52and and how he was

00:18:54Promoting the Aryan race and so forth. I mean they were probably picking up on that and they

00:19:00were embracing

00:19:01More a form of Hitlerism and and you'll find that in all the Christian identity groups

00:19:05They will have the Nazi flag. And in fact, these people we're talking about today are kind of are actually Nazis

00:19:12But they would carry that flag right on today, you know in these these small little groups that are still out there

00:19:17But in the early 30s

00:19:19That's when he really began to express his anti-semitic views and his fascist

00:19:24Sentiments and we talked about the silver shirts by William Dudley Pelley last time. It was a pro-nazi group and

00:19:30He was considered joining them

00:19:33But we mentioned that and the Pelley's silver shirts were a home for Smith after he left his parish in Louisiana

00:19:40Because he actually quit his church

00:19:42After he kind of sort of embracing these ideologies his church actually wanted to throw him out

00:19:47But he quit before they could throw him out

00:19:50And he gave lectures for that group and he said someday a hundred million Americans will hide behind the silver shirt for protection

00:19:57so already they were looking at some type of

00:19:59conflict where you know, they were going to be the saviors of the good people and

00:20:05While the the bad people were being put out there was gonna be some type of conflict

00:20:09But but that was a not very short. I was very short-lived for Smith

00:20:13It was very small, but he actually joined with Huey Long

00:20:17With which they call the Kingfish Huey Long was a very progressive

00:20:22Senator

00:20:24You know, he was a he was a very he was a future senator

00:20:27I believe he might have been governor of the state of Louisiana, but

00:20:31He helped he was actually a lawyer when he met Smith and he actually prevented the foreclosure of some of the homes

00:20:37That Smith's congregation had back in the early days, I guess through the Depression so through his law office

00:20:45He was able to help prevent that so they became bonded over that and he was very influenced by Long

00:20:51but Long was a pretty much a liberal and

00:20:55That was when Smith resigned from his church when he started embracing all that liberal, you know

00:20:59Theology and Long's platform was share our wealth

00:21:03He he had a movement to confiscate people's fortunes and you know distributed them to the poor

00:21:09He also embraced things and his platform in 1936 where his candidacy for president

00:21:16He actually made a bid for president that Smith was on board on that at the time

00:21:21He and Smith spoke on behalf of Long for those organizations

00:21:25But it was a new society to distribute the wealth and make sure there's no one making under

00:21:31You know what the average salary is they can make up to maybe one-third the government would give them money to

00:21:36Make sure they could buy their food live in their house buy their clothes that the basic necessities of life

00:21:41and so that's what Huey Long was all about and he was

00:21:46His slogan was every man a king and they even composed a song by him and Castro

00:21:52Carrazzo, they formed a song in 1935 and they would sing it

00:21:57You know as part of their campaign slogan and it was a share a wealth society. So he was

00:22:03Making a lot of headway there, but eventually

00:22:07He was assassinated. He was actually shot to death and

00:22:12And he was murdered. So after Long's murder, you know Smith just had no political allies in Louisiana

00:22:19And he was he had briefly joined a white supremacist who actually embraced Adolf Hitler's book

00:22:25But but that alliance soon crumbled and he was trying to find his cause what he was going to you know

00:22:31go into and he went in with Francis Townsend as a retired physician who

00:22:36Tried to provide pensions to older people and so Smith and Townsend eventually joined father Coughlin so we can

00:22:43Briefly probably mentioned father Coughlin here in a minute, but that was around 1936, you know after Long's assassination

00:22:49Right and Gerald LK Smith

00:22:52Significance in the development of what became the NAR cannot be understated. You've got you know

00:22:58He worked very closely with Wesley Swift, which I mentioned previously

00:23:02These two were hand-in-hand in the West Coast basically and Smith you can find the influence

00:23:09leading from from Gerald LK Smith into the latter reign right in the

00:23:14So-called 1933 prophecies of William Branham in

00:23:191937 which was just a few years prior to

00:23:22The development of what we what we're calling the epicenter the explosion of all of these things

00:23:27Smith organized what was called a committee of 1 million against communism or any other ism

00:23:34That threatens to overthrow the United States government

00:23:37So like very much like we see today they were claiming that the United States government was being attacked and infiltrated by

00:23:46According to them by the false Jews, you know today. It's it's the false Democrats or whatever

00:23:53But it was the same exact scenario. They they were preaching through religion. They were preaching politics

00:24:00Claiming that who's in office now, we've got to kick them out. We got to throw overthrow this government

00:24:05and that was Gerald LK Smith that started this and

00:24:09William Branham in the mid

00:24:121950s, I can't remember the exact year

00:24:14But he began claiming that years prior something like 20 years prior to his actual statement

00:24:22He said that back then I prophesied about the so-called isms

00:24:27Well when he says this he's appealing to every single person who's sympathetic to Gerald LK Smith

00:24:33Because that was the party that was the committee against the isms 1 million people against the isms

00:24:39So Branham appeals to directly to the Christian identity crowd

00:24:44for his initial

00:24:46Version which it altered much, you know went through several different versions later

00:24:50But his very initial version of the 1933 prophecies was nothing more than an appeal to Gerald LK Smith's movement

00:24:59Yeah, so as I mentioned

00:25:01In 1936 LK Smith and Townsend and Charles Coughlin who was a Roman Catholic priest

00:25:08They teamed up together. They were

00:25:11initially

00:25:13Fought like a father

00:25:14Coughlin the Roman Catholic priest he was siding with

00:25:18You know Franklin Roosevelt, but after Roosevelt was siding with the bankers then Coughlin

00:25:24You know felt like that was a big business the bankers

00:25:27They were more or less taking the wealth of the people. So he he turned against

00:25:32You know Franklin Roosevelt and so they teamed up and they were going to promote William Lempke's Union Party for president and

00:25:41Interesting, you know Charles Coughlin. He was a great orator to you know, we talked about these great orators

00:25:48but he had a

00:25:49listenership of 30 million people and his weekly broadcast at one time on the radio and they actually

00:25:56FDR was able to

00:25:58Get him off the air for a time

00:26:00by

00:26:01Requiring licenses. That's when they first started requiring licenses to be on the radio after he had gathered such a following

00:26:07And they didn't want him to be too influential

00:26:09So once they did that then for a time he had to get off the air and he was prevented from speaking

00:26:15but but he was convinced by the his

00:26:18Publisher of his radio to focus on politics and that's what he began focusing on and became very politically

00:26:25Influential with the people and so he encouraged him to do that. Then he started broadcasting very vehement

00:26:33Angry broadcast attacking the banking system the Jews and

00:26:37So that was picked up in 1930 for the national broadcast and that's that's how he did

00:26:42he was a very very influential speaker and would speak on these platforms as they were promoting William Lemke for president and

00:26:50Smith said he was proud to speak not only for Lemke but also for the Constitution the American flag and the Bible

00:26:57so it sounds like very

00:26:59political religious combining together and

00:27:02Sounds like very American and at the time, you know, it's sounded on the surface like it was a good thing. So

00:27:09Lemke was a progressive

00:27:11populist and support of the support the New Deal actually and championed the calls of family farmers and

00:27:17Legislation to protect farmers during the Great Depression. So that's how he gained some popularity

00:27:22But it was uh, he had a the Union Party was who nominated him and you'll see these parties even nowadays

00:27:29You know, you've got the Populist Party the Libertarian Party and they they don't they're not the majority

00:27:34So they don't receive a lot of votes. So he received almost a million votes 2% nationwide

00:27:39And so he gained no electoral vote. So he did not win that election did not even was not even figured in it

00:27:45so that that Smith Townsend Coughlin, you know collaboration after that candidacy failed it sort of dissolved and

00:27:54After after that 1936 election though, actually Coughlin

00:27:58expressed sympathy for fascist governments of Hitler and Mussolini

00:28:02As the

00:28:04combat of

00:28:05combat communism

00:28:06So it's amazing that these men were embracing what Hitler and Mussolini were just to combat communism

00:28:13and he also believed Jewish bankers were behind the Russian Revolution and backing the he backed the Jewish Bolshevism

00:28:20Bolshevism conspiracy theory, but you can see that back when we talked about

00:28:26Ford's and

00:28:28Cameron's when they put out the the Jew the International Jew

00:28:33pamphlet, you know how much influence this was having, you know in the nation and this is just another part of it and

00:28:39He began to support far-right organizations called the Christian Front and he claimed that he was an inspiration to it

00:28:47he urged the formation of a national Christian movement to violently rebel against the US government and

00:28:53He personally selected John Cassidy to lead it

00:28:56So then there you have an organization be informed to try to overthrow the government and that's where you know

00:29:02This is really intertwined with everything we're talking about

00:29:05Christian Front was anti-semitic. It was a political association

00:29:09active till about 1940 and

00:29:12It was all started from Coughlin's, you know radio broadcasts, you know the things he was promoting

00:29:18So you can see why the nation didn't want those things, you know promoted

00:29:22But by the end of 1940, it was no longer active and in fact FBI had begun to investigate this

00:29:28So that's for plotting to overthrow the government, you know, and it was but Coughlin was able to quietly sneak out of it

00:29:35It was revealed that he was never officially a member

00:29:38So somehow these people that seem to promote these things can somehow wiggle out of it and and come clear

00:29:45It's kind of like with Upshaw. He was he was right there embedded with Davis, but he got out of it

00:29:50So his reputation remained intact, you know

00:29:52so somehow there they always have to have an out and they generally prepare themselves an out in case their

00:29:59organization fails

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00:31:00It's crazy man. When you think of all this history and how it came to be I mean

00:31:05There there's not one single aspect of this that you can focus on to understand it. You literally have to understand

00:31:11So many complicated complex histories. I was reading history just last night in preparation for this and

00:31:18There are actually significant questions as to whether Gerald LK Smith was even a believer in the Christian identity

00:31:26Doctrines like like he embraced it. I think because his political party was fizzling out

00:31:33I think he saw the power in the Christian identity movement and he just shifted his politics towards that

00:31:40but you mentioned the

00:31:43Christian nation

00:31:44Movement that was being developed when you hear the term Christian nationalist today

00:31:48It's because this this army that Smith was creating

00:31:52He called it the Christian nationalists and they were militant from their inception

00:31:58Whenever Smith was building his organizations

00:32:01he would send out what was called a confidential admission card and he had to fill out your information into it and

00:32:09these

00:32:10It was supposed to be he called it for executive discussions of plans and purposes

00:32:16But they asked questions like what is your what is your religious affiliation? And what is your military service?

00:32:23so he had he was targeting a specific denomination of faith or group of denominations of faith and

00:32:30He wanted to find the people who had been in the military because they were arming themselves

00:32:36And like you said this movement just kind of fizzled out too

00:32:39But if you think of it in the long-term timeline of history

00:32:44He's building this movement that is called the Christian nationalists

00:32:48He's building it on the platform that they're taking over our government. We're losing true Americanism

00:32:55You've got Upshaw and Davis who are coming into Los Angeles San Bernardino area

00:33:01You've got Upshaw who's he's spreading this this theme across LA and across that

00:33:08You know the whole whole region of the south of Southern, California

00:33:11That we need to bring back true Americanism. That was his theme

00:33:16And when Smith starts working with Wesley Swift

00:33:21When they when the Klan is actually birthed

00:33:24Wesley Swift says true Americanism is here to stay and he's quoting

00:33:29I mean he's directly quoting from the theme that came from Upshaw and

00:33:33To think that one of the founders with the person who wrote the bylaws and constitution of the

00:33:401915 Klan is there with another key figure probably one of the men who birthed the

00:33:461915 Klan Roy Davis and William Upshaw

00:33:49They're right there in San Bernardino and in this, you know in the area spanning from LA to San Bernardino and

00:33:57Then right north of San Bernardino is where the Klan was rebirthed in California with the same themes that they use

00:34:04connected to all of these figures of

00:34:07Pentecostalism

00:34:08Davis was the head of a Pentecostal sect the Pentecostal Baptist Church of God sect all of this

00:34:15You can't you will never find all the answers

00:34:18There's too many pieces to the puzzle. But when you put the puzzle pieces that we have together all of this looks pretty bad

00:34:24Yeah, I would agree you wonder how all these different people can kind of come together with the same type of goal

00:34:31And it's almost like they conspired together secretly then came out and spread this throughout the nation. So yeah

00:34:39So Smith was rafted, you know, Lemke didn't have any chance of winning the presidency against Roosevelt

00:34:45You know, he began that new organization a nationalist organization called the committee of 1 million

00:34:50I think you mentioned and they soon declared a nationalist goal of union busting and Smith toured the country Smith was a great speaker

00:34:57toured the country denouncing the unions the CIO and

00:35:02Helping to break strikes, you know that were going on and he actually inherited

00:35:07Coughlin's radio network after that priest was silenced because of the licensing rules and he continued those crusades

00:35:14against the internationalist Roosevelt and

00:35:17Then eventually moved his operation to Detroit

00:35:191939 and that's where Henry Ford comes in and Smith claimed it was Ford who introduced him to

00:35:26anti-semitism through the

00:35:28Pamphlet the International Jew as I mentioned and Smith made friends in Congress

00:35:32There was a few persons in Congress and one was Robert Rice Reynolds

00:35:37Reynolds wanted to build a wall around the country to keep out immigrants kind of like

00:35:43What we're doing today building the wall

00:35:45But I I do agree that you know people that are just pouring into the country or not

00:35:49That's not a good thing. But back then people just didn't poured in pour into the country. They were more

00:35:55More sympathetic or obeyed the laws more or less and they came legally versus the way they pour in today

00:36:02But but yeah, they they wanted to build a wall. So

00:36:05and

00:36:07Hoffman was another person Sinclair Hoffman

00:36:10He was part of it too and

00:36:12Hoffman reassured Americans many of us doubt that German

00:36:15Germany once more than has been asked to the ages by every people by every nation which has found itself with territory too small

00:36:22He said Hitler and Mussolini have a date with destiny is foolish to oppose them

00:36:27So why not play ball with them? So, you know, they were very sympathetic to to those fascist governments

00:36:33You know for some reason and I do not understand, you know

00:36:36Why in the world with all the evil that you know came out of Hitler's?

00:36:40Government why they would even be sympathetic to it, but Smith began publishing a paper here

00:36:46we have the cross and the flag which espoused a

00:36:49vision of Christian nationalism in 1942 and he founded his own political party America first and

00:36:57Opposed America's involvement in World War two and he would rebrand his party as the Christian nationalist crusade in 1947

00:37:05So so now we're coming into the age of what we were talking about

00:37:08so yeah, he was very much a Christian nationalist and he was promoting these organizations trying to

00:37:16You know declare that America was a Christian nation and we need to you know

00:37:20Get everything out this un-christian and have it as only the maybe the white Christian

00:37:26Protestant people as the rulers of this nation and that's really the key trying to make it a white Christian nation

00:37:32That was the theme that was being spread

00:37:35by the Klan and so there are

00:37:38Significant questions as to whether or not Gerald LK Smith was in the Klan

00:37:42We find no evidence of it except for when he was working with Wesley Swift

00:37:47they asked Swift in the newspapers whenever the Klan was being rebirthed they

00:37:52asked him who well who is the leader of this group and

00:37:56Swift denied it even though it's very clear that Swift was one of the key organizers

00:38:02He didn't name Roy Davis or William Upshaw

00:38:05But there was one quote where he he said that Gerald LK Smith is is leading the group or leading the charge

00:38:11I can't remember his exact phrase. He didn't come out and say that

00:38:16you know Gerald LK Smith was the grand dragon or the

00:38:20supreme religious

00:38:22the supreme wizard of the Klan

00:38:24but he did name him as as a person who was instigating the movement and

00:38:30When I first read that I thought okay, well that means that

00:38:33Smith is probably the Imperial Wizard and that his right-hand man is Wesley Swift

00:38:40But when I started putting all of the pieces of the timeline together when you got Roy Davis out there William Upshaw out there

00:38:47Right as the Klan is being rebirthed

00:38:50You've got Wesley

00:38:52Wesley Swift who is the head of the he was one of the presidents. I think it was of the Anglo-Saxon Federation

00:38:59and he brought he brought the

00:39:03Anglo-Saxon Federation down into Los Angeles right before this was birthed. So

00:39:08You know, there's all of these different pieces of the puzzle that are moving together. It's really hard to say

00:39:14but I'm starting to

00:39:16Form the opinion that likely it wasn't one single central figure and that's why Swift didn't directly answer

00:39:24There were probably multiple figures that were either competing for leadership or maybe they wanted it to be, you know a joint

00:39:32collaboration of leaders where it would be slightly different than the

00:39:37Original Klan before and if the government were to attack it

00:39:40Well, who do you attack which leaders the leader of the group and that and that's literally what happened here because as Swift is naming

00:39:48Who's the leader? He can't answer. There's no way there's really no answer

00:39:52And so I think it was a

00:39:54probably a strategy and that's why we'll never know if

00:39:58Davis was directly involved or indirectly involved in creating it

00:40:02all we know is that Davis was there right as the Klan was created Upshaw was there right as the Klan was created and

00:40:09It wasn't long after this that the connection between William Branham and the elite and in the LA

00:40:16You know Palm Springs area

00:40:18It wasn't long after that until he was brought in and he was this no-name minister from Indiana

00:40:25like how was he even connected? How do they even know his name and

00:40:29it was because of this connection this collaboration between

00:40:33politics religion Christian identity Christian nationalism and

00:40:38most importantly Pentecostal ism

00:40:41Yeah, and and getting back to Smith there, you know, he was all about Christian nationalism

00:40:46so around

00:40:481942 he actually tried to run for office, which a lot of these men did to try to get into office to gain political power

00:40:54but

00:40:55Maybe for the good Smith never was successful and gain in an office that put him in power

00:41:01He had a lot of power himself just by speaking around the country with the people but definitely didn't get an office

00:41:08So he could you know effect changes in government

00:41:11They ran for the Michigan Senate seat as a Republican in 1942 and

00:41:17The the opposition really wanted to oppose him because they didn't want him to be in office

00:41:21So they ran a judge Homer Ferguson to challenge him and his Smith's run ended in failure Ferguson won the primary by two to one

00:41:29but about a hundred thousand people voted for Smith and then right after that he launched that American First Party and

00:41:35Attempt to recapture the success of the isolationist American First Committee

00:41:40so

00:41:41America First Committee was all about keeping America

00:41:44Within its own bounds and not getting engaged with foreign countries and you know, it's all about America first

00:41:50Their platform was fighting communism deporting immigrants to create jobs for America

00:41:56Raising tariffs ending all immigration just protecting the interest of white Americans and in

00:42:031944 the members of that party

00:42:06Even endorsed sterilizing and deporting all Jews. I mean so there was some pretty aberrant

00:42:11thoughts back in those days and

00:42:13So it was during the 40s right after these runs for the senator and Senate seat and all that

00:42:20That Smith became very openly racist and anti-semitic

00:42:24He you know people in these ideologies

00:42:27They eventually get radicalized and they eventually get their brain just seems to go on overdrive to make up stuff

00:42:35To to maybe reinforce their own beliefs, but they just began to dream up things that are just very untrue

00:42:41He began spreading conspiracy theories that Roosevelt and Truman were secretly Jews

00:42:48He also railed against racial

00:42:51mongrelization, you know as to high breeding doctrine, of course William Branham also embraced that he didn't want people high breeding themselves and

00:43:00He continued to have some influence in the nation's capital despite all this bad rhetoric that he was spouting but

00:43:07Eventually, he never found any success at the ballot boxes

00:43:12But his efforts really helped establish those political parameters

00:43:16That was starting the Christian identity movement. So that's when Swift was coming into play here

00:43:22You know Smith's first efforts in that first wave there

00:43:25What Smith was doing was actually creating those political parameters for what was to become that Christian identity movement and what they embraced

00:43:32As far as the government side of it. So

00:43:35You know after the war, you know

00:43:391946 or so Smith formed that Christian Nationalist Crusade and that was a federation of 60 right-wing organization

00:43:46all with the purpose of fighting communism and upholding Christian Americanism and

00:43:52He was made national director of that Christian Nationalist Crusade which was headquartered in Detroit in

00:43:591947 he moved the operation to st. Louis and then he decided to live in Tulsa. So he continued to

00:44:07Found several other organizations that fought communism labor and Jews

00:44:12We we talked about those. So in

00:44:161956 Smith met his last bid for the White House on the Christian Nationalist Party

00:44:20So he was trying to from the 40s to the 50s trying to build a support again

00:44:25But his support basically shrunk all the to that far right and that's what we see today

00:44:30everybody that's in these movements are on the far far right of the fringe and

00:44:35Unfortunately, that's that's who's embracing the candidacy today

00:44:38You see them come out of the woodwork because they think they're going to gain some political power today

00:44:43You know perhaps out of it all but hey Smith basically had no success there

00:44:49And so he basically retreated in his later part of his life. He came to live in Arkansas

00:44:54about 1964 and

00:44:57He bought a pen castle which was a Victorian mansion in Eureka Springs and that's at the Ozark Mountains

00:45:05It had lapsed in the economic stagnation during that time

00:45:09So he remodeled it turned into a retirement home and then he built, you know

00:45:14Two projects which were to his legacy one was a statue much like in Rio de Janeiro of Jesus

00:45:21It's not as large as the one in that country

00:45:24But called Christ of the Ozarks and he also created a passion play now the purpose of that passion play which the people going there

00:45:31probably wouldn't realize he wanted to be sure that the hatred of the Jews was

00:45:36Interjected into that passion play to make sure that the people that went to that play knew that it was the Jews that killed Christ

00:45:43so

00:45:44That was it was his legacy, but uh, you know, I've even visited that area just by accident

00:45:50You know when we were out there

00:45:52visiting Missouri one time and

00:45:54Didn't realize who this man was even and just thought it was a great thing that he did

00:45:59But it's amazing you can go around the country visiting places

00:46:02But I think I learned a lesson there places where you see people's names, you know growing up

00:46:07I went to churches that had been to that exact location that you're talking about

00:46:13I've seen I've seen the statue. It's crazy when you're driving down the interstate

00:46:17You're not expecting suddenly there to be this massive Jesus standing out there

00:46:21but when you do when you're driving through that area in Missouri, you're gonna see this massive statue of Jesus and

00:46:28He started this passion play which is showing, you know, it's a play on the passion of Christ and

00:46:35Not I don't think many people realize that that was connected directly to white supremacy and Christian nationalism

00:46:41In the Branham churches that I attended in the Midwest

00:46:45Everyone went to that passion play man. I mean they all

00:46:48Flocked there and now I'm looking back at this and I'm thinking to myself

00:46:53Huh? Well, that's very odd

00:46:54I wonder who started the first journey because every year they would go and I'm wondering what was were they Christian nationalists in the message?

00:47:02cult and that's why they went or did they just go because it's a I

00:47:06Don't I couldn't say that. It's a really even that a popular of an event. It's just an event

00:47:11How did they find out about it?

00:47:12you know because I lived in I lived in Kansas at the time and people were driving hours to go see this passion play, but

00:47:20to think that was connected it's just

00:47:23It's mind-boggling and like you said the connection between Gerald LK Smith and Wesley Swift, which I've been mentioning

00:47:32It's such a strong connection. There is no denial that

00:47:36Gerald LK Smith who was building his platform of politics and Christian nationalism at the same time

00:47:43found a receptive

00:47:46Receptive partner in Wesley Swift and Pentecostal ism and merged those two together

00:47:52So upon that merging which happened in you know, I think it was

00:47:581946 I believe whenever the Klan was birthed in, California

00:48:02you've got

00:48:04Pentecostal ism at the at the center of it in the forefront. He was a Pentecostal minister now. He did leave the

00:48:12the four square church

00:48:14before starting his own

00:48:17Pentecostal sect which was basically a more militarized version of it

00:48:21But many of the themes that he preached

00:48:24Such as the UFOs there were doctrines of the UFOs that was spread all throughout

00:48:29latter rain and in fact Branham said that

00:48:33UFOs are a gods investigating angels and they he started talking about how we have a

00:48:39Our bodies our human vessel is made of light brand called it light meters

00:48:44And we had a our soul or was in another galaxy. I can't remember Branham's exact words

00:48:50Well, that's directly copied from Wesley Swift's theology. So he he created the theology that spread all throughout Christian nationalism and

00:49:00Like I said, there's just so many pieces of puzzle

00:49:02It's hard to know would he have been success as successful without Gerald?

00:49:07Okay, Smith, even though Smith wasn't popular and didn't win, you know, the presidency vote he lost by a large margin

00:49:15His ideology got merged into the movement and through the work of Wesley Swift

00:49:20It spread across the nation in ways that honestly had he even became president

00:49:26I don't think he would have been as successful as whenever he created that Union with Wesley Swift

00:49:31That's true. You know Wesley Swift

00:49:34You know taking the political side from Smith and then Swift took the religious side and they blended them together

00:49:42so so that combination is became very powerful and

00:49:46Swift was really the one that was ultimately responsible for getting that spread throughout. So every group you see today

00:49:53The the origin of that was Wesley Swift every every group that's embracing Christian identity

00:49:58It came out of what Swift developed and Swift was the one that really developed the actual doctrines

00:50:03But you know the to see doctrine had been around for a long time, but he actually you know developed the doctrines

00:50:10He was the most important proponent of the Christian identity in that post-world War two era he founded the Christian Defense League

00:50:18That was his own and his own Anglo-Saxon Christian Church

00:50:21Which became the Church of Jesus Christ Christian and the reason he called it the Church of Jesus Christ Christian

00:50:28Because that was to distinguish

00:50:30In his theology that that from Jesus to be Jewish

00:50:34He didn't believe Jesus was actually Jewish because how could you know

00:50:39The white people be the chosen people and Jesus be a Jew

00:50:41So he had to that's why he called his church that just to distinguish it to say that we don't believe that Jesus was Jewish

00:50:48But a Swift had been to the Kingdom Bible College. I believe that was founded by Philip EJ Monson in the 1930s and

00:50:57Monson

00:50:58Stressed I mean that's where he learned the basic teachings of Christianity because Monson's

00:51:03Stressed the need for salvation through the blood atonement baptism of the Holy Spirit return of Jesus in the Millennium

00:51:08So you can see even though these men embrace Christian doctrines, and they sound Christian on the surface underneath

00:51:15They have all this other doctrine they bring along with it, and that's exactly what I find

00:51:19You know in message churches today. You've got a you've got a mixture going on

00:51:23You've got a lot of truths of Scripture, but you've got also this other side of all these doctrines that are just very anti-scriptural

00:51:31Blended together so on the surface that may sound very you know convincing and scriptural

00:51:36But if you dig deep you know and dig into what the scriptures say and you know you'll find this very opposite of Scripture

00:51:42but that's how people get captured by this because the sincere people that want to follow Scripture, they'll hear it and

00:51:48And embrace it because you know maybe on the message side

00:51:52it was because of a gifting or appearance of a gift that was there and some supernatural elements and

00:51:58Caused people to say well that was of God and on the other side

00:52:01It was to people's prejudices that caused them to embrace the white Christian identity side

00:52:07But Swift's brand of religion was based on the idea that whites were the only race that could achieve salvation ultimately

00:52:15And that sounds a lot like you know what we hear

00:52:18You know there's only the bride can achieve really the true salvation being in the elect group so

00:52:25You know I don't know what he believed about other people

00:52:27Which you know even being saved

00:52:29But the message will put the bride as being the ultimate on the throne with God and everybody else has to live underneath them

00:52:36And be ruled and reigned by them so instead of all of us being Christians together

00:52:40There's there's stages of Christianity, and there's elitism

00:52:43You know within that just like there was the elitism and the white people and it was race-based theological

00:52:50You know perspective so he founded a Christian identity Church, and he was an active member of the Ku Klux Klan

00:52:56you know Wesley Swift was he became a collegal which was a recruiter for the Klan and

00:53:02He also advocated for removal of Jewish

00:53:07Influence even on the biblical history you know taking it all out, so he grounded his movement

00:53:14Theologically with the goal of justifying Hitler's brand of Nazism you know along with the tradition American ideas and prejudices and

00:53:22He convinced his followers that his racist church was ordained by God so eventually

00:53:26They they have enough scripture in the way

00:53:29They've interpreted scripture along with the things that are true that they're teaching you know blend it together

00:53:35It just convinces people you know what they're teaching is truth, and so you eventually embrace it

00:53:39So if you're hearing Christian identity, and you're a white person eventually you have to you have to separate that out of your mind

00:53:46You know so that you know you could observe what is true

00:53:49And what is not because that's that's what captures you think well

00:53:52Maybe it is true because I've got some of these scriptures that seem to align with it

00:53:55And and so you really have to study it and and see what the root of it is and there's a lot of hatred

00:54:03Enveloped in the in that root and the way people talk they're very

00:54:06Exclusionary, and you know there's no room for anybody else, but it's only room for the you know the white people so the

00:54:14Anti-semitism Christian identity was really integral aspect

00:54:18to portray the white supremacy is legitimized and commanded by the Bible even and

00:54:23they wanted to supplant you know the lineage the true lineage from the Bible of the Jewish people and

00:54:29Discredit Judaism Jewish people all together so they could be the chosen people so that was the whole idea

00:54:35And that's what the two-seat doctrine is really trying to do so so really this two-seat doctrine that has found its way into the message

00:54:43You know his roots are trying to you know create a exclusionary exclusive people

00:54:49I elect people that shows us all by race. You know it's not by a spiritual. You know act of God

00:54:56it's all it's based on your skin color, and that's so opposite to what God is who created all people and

00:55:03so

00:55:04Christian identity organized

00:55:06you know through through the Nazis and the KKK and

00:55:11And that Kingdom Bible Institute was another

00:55:14Thing that was formed and so just a lot of these groups were forming to promote it

00:55:18And so there was another guy that was mentioned John Lovell. He was a proponent of the British British Israel doctrine

00:55:25He was director of Kingdom track Society, so he he sent his tracks throughout the United States

00:55:31There were many people promoting this ideology

00:55:34but Lovell was a close associate of Gerald Smith and a religious teacher to Wesley Swift and

00:55:40they shared many of the same viewpoints and

00:55:44Lovell organized conferences you know for the Canadian American British Israelites in the 1940s in California

00:55:50So you can see it helped spur that transition along the way to Christian identity, which was promoted by Swift

00:55:57yeah, I think those transitions are key to understand because

00:56:01Whenever people who are listening to the podcast from the NAR

00:56:06Hear the to see doctrine of Christian identity for example. They think well. This is unrelated to me

00:56:11We didn't teach that in our churches, but if you look at the trail of history

00:56:16The NAR exists because it came through this history and when you look from the opposite end you look at the Christian nationalism that

00:56:25Gerald

00:56:27LK Smith was bringing and then you look at the very racist sermons that were preached by Wesley Swift

00:56:35You don't see an exact apples-to-apples comparison there either

00:56:38But you can see the political themes from Gerald LK Smith going into Wesley Swift

00:56:43and if you follow this trail what you find is that

00:56:48Men who have an agenda will take certain aspects of what they hear from their collaborating partners

00:56:55And then they'll build upon it in their own way

00:56:58So whenever Wesley Swift brings his racist

00:57:02anti-semitic, you know his

00:57:05his Christian identity doctrines to mainstream

00:57:09Christianity through Pentecostal ism and

00:57:12Christian fundamentalism

00:57:13He's injecting the political themes that came from Gerald LK Smith

00:57:18When Branham brings this into latter rain, he doesn't use the words Jew and black when he

00:57:25Introduces the what he called serpent seed quote-unquote revelation

00:57:30But what he did was he took the exact trail of lineage that Wesley Swift was using through the seed of ham

00:57:37Because

00:57:38Christian identity by and large believed that the the children of ham created the black races in

00:57:46In Africa, that was a common belief back then and so he is actually saying the same exact thing

00:57:52But he's watered it down

00:57:54So if a person who is unfamiliar with that Christian identity loaded language he were to hear Branham sermon

00:58:00They say well, that's not a racist sermon yet

00:58:02He's teaching the same thing the racists are teaching and then you carried that forward into the NAR

00:58:08Well, they've wiped all of the racism the to seed etc completely out

00:58:13but they maintained the

00:58:15Good Christians and bad Christians theme that Branham had developed by taking the racism out

00:58:21So you see this clear progression that goes directly from Christian nationalism through Christian identity

00:58:28through Pentecostal ism into latter rain

00:58:31Charismania and then into the NAR

00:58:34Yeah, so, you know, it's just just like that. It was like the the influence of Smith and Swift

00:58:40That we see today came started all this everything you're seeing today

00:58:44It's just a manifestation of the influence of those two people

00:58:47It all started through their ideas and then promoting these ideas and then after they died off, you know

00:58:53Many others came and picked up the torch and carried it on and they started churches and organizations

00:58:59And so we see and most of them on the far far right, but the danger of these extreme doctrines and exclusive doctrines

00:59:06We've seen that in not only the political side, but the religious side you get men raised up

00:59:11You've got Apostles prophets or you got men that claim to be

00:59:16They're the speaking for God and they they carry their their followers often to death

00:59:20but there's a danger in that and these exclusive doctrines some take it to the very extreme end and

00:59:26It some people are very prone to be radicalized and they act on their own

00:59:30So in a way these these organizations begin, but it causes some to act on their own, you know

00:59:36Like the recent shooter we saw that tried to take out, you know, one of the candidates, you know Trump and you know

00:59:43They that's what those ideologies really divide the nation. So they're really not United the nation

00:59:49They're really dividing the nation and they're very destructive to the nation's existence even so it's good that we're talking about

00:59:56This but now I think America is a divided country currently and it's hard to estimate how many are on either side

01:00:02Maybe right now, but and how many are things that promote the free countries unity?

01:00:07But but I do hope common sense will prevail in the end. I hope these podcasts will be helpful to

01:00:13Get people to thinking and discussing these issues because I think they're very important to us. I agree

01:00:19They're extremely important and

01:00:21We're only scratching the surface of the history that we could give with this one episode

01:00:27These two figures are so complex and and they remained influential well into the 60s

01:00:33So it's not like there's this epicenter in the 40s and then that history dies out

01:00:38They were continuing to influence latter rain through the rest of their lives

01:00:43Which we'll get into as we get deeper into this episode

01:00:46but make no mistake Christian identity had a strong influence over Pentecostal ism and latter rain and

01:00:53the

01:00:54militant themes

01:00:56Even though they're you know, Wesley Swift was very militant and in the way that he preached and that's why he created the extremism

01:01:04Even though they're not talking about weapons and such in the NAR

01:01:08they are talking about dominion ism and the kingdom theology and

01:01:12I think the the most important thing that you just said is that

01:01:17the statements made

01:01:19During sermons when people are sitting in your congregations and they've shut off all critical thought

01:01:25Your words have consequences

01:01:27So whenever you make a statement that can be taken by a person who's mentally unstable to lead them into extremism

01:01:35It will that's what happens whenever you make a statement that has negative consequences

01:01:41So if you get nothing else from this episode realize that the background of why these ministers in the NAR

01:01:48Are saying these things is a very very sinister background a sinister history

01:01:54Which we're scratching the surface and we'll get into in the next episode even more

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Weaponized Religion: Secret America First History of the NAR - Ep 193 Branham Research Podcast

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