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00:00There was a 9-1-1 call that came in to the police dispatch.
00:08There was a foul odor coming from a trash bin.
00:13Maybe a dead dog, dead cat, dead possum.
00:25The garbage bin was found in the rear of the apartment building on Elm Street.
00:31The building is kind of like an old brownstone. It's probably been there since the 1800s.
00:38Officers noticed a bunch of flies around the area.
00:42They looked into the trash bin and saw maggots.
00:45The uniformed officers on scene, just based on the smell, would know that it was probably a decomposing human as opposed to a decomposing dog.
01:00It's something that's ingrained in your psyche. There's no smell like it.
01:07The officer looked in, saw a blanket, took out a knife, cut the blanket, and moved the blanket away with the knife and saw a human leg.
01:24The officers put up crime scene tape to cordon off the area.
01:28A crime scene is a piece of evidence, so they decided not to pull the body off the scene.
01:34They made arrangements to have it towed up to the coroner's office.
01:42The body was wrapped in two blankets, a sheet, like a floral sheet, which had some burn marks on it.
01:51Whoever disposed of the body tried to more than likely set the body on fire.
01:57The problem was that one of the blankets was fire retardant, so it never caught.
02:03At this point, whoever did it went through great lengths to try to cover up the fact of what he or she did.
02:11Once the body was out, the body was unwrapped from the blanket.
02:16He was a black male, about six foot to six foot three, heavy set, probably over 200 pounds.
02:24He was wearing blue jeans, no shoes, and only one sock.
02:30He had no identification on him, no cell phone, no jewelry to speak of.
02:36The only identifying mark were the tattoo on his left forearm, it said stacks,
02:40and the two S's on the front and the back were dollar signs, and a chain around his neck with a key.
02:50It's September, right, end of the summer. It's hot.
02:55A body will decompose at a higher rate when it's hot, as opposed to cold.
03:00The coroner had determined, based on the maggots, the decomposition of the body,
03:04that he was probably there at least from one to three days.
03:08His time of death probably would have been around August 31st or September 1st.
03:14The coroner had said he was cut, he was beaten, he was strangled.
03:19There's defensive wounds. His hands would have gone up during the attack to try to protect himself.
03:24He defended himself as best he could.
03:28The victim was big and he was fighting back, and he went down hard,
03:31so they had to do a lot of damage to finally kill him.
03:35He fought valiantly before he finally succumbed.
03:42This is probably one of the more vicious attacks they did.
03:45This is probably one of the more vicious attacks based on the fact of everything that was used.
03:53Someone who would do something like this would be a predator.
03:59I was the Hamilton County Courts Reporter for the Cincinnati Enquirer,
04:03so that involved covering all of the crime that came through the courthouse.
04:08There was a lot of violent crime. Shootings, homicides.
04:13The 2005 relationship between the Cincinnati Police Department and the city wasn't that good,
04:19because in 2001, Cincinnati Police shot an innocent young man.
04:28The death of an unarmed black man set off days of rioting in Cincinnati.
04:33The kind of thing that we saw recently with George Floyd happened then.
04:38People were very distrustful. Everyone was holding back information.
04:42They felt that they were protecting their neighborhood by not giving information to the police.
04:48Even if they managed to find someone who had seen something, it was going to be a very difficult task.
04:53This was going to be an uphill battle.
04:58There was an urgency in this case to identify the victim.
05:01There was an urgency in this case to identify the victim.
05:04Fingerprints were taken. Blood and tissue samples were taken in order to get DNA.
05:11We would then run John Doe through the computer system, but DNA came back with nothing in file.
05:18So that led us to believe that the person had never been arrested.
05:22The biggest clue on who it was would have been a tattoo.
05:26We looked at the tattoo stacks, and stacks usually means a stack of cash.
05:32So based on that, it led us to the motive. Maybe they got killed for money.
05:40What we do on a crime scene is we'll go back the next day and kind of do a re-canvas to see if there's anything we might have missed.
05:56We were able to come up with a 911 caller who told us that on September 2nd, 2005,
06:02she saw several individuals load something big into the trash bin and rolling the trash bin out to the curb.
06:11She said it was suspicious to her because this was the day after the trash had been picked up.
06:18That's kind of like the ding, ding, ding. The bells go off and this is somebody we want to talk to.
06:26One of the two people was a woman, someone who had really long hair, and this woman was with a well-built man.
06:36She did say that she saw the maintenance man roll it back from the curb a couple days later,
06:43and the odor in the trash bin got more foul as the days went on.
06:51Based on her interview, we were able to find the name of the maintenance man.
06:56He confirmed that he did roll the container back to the alleyway from the street corner a couple days after it had been rolled out.
07:05Did you suspect anything?
07:17The fact that a body was found in just everybody's run-of-the-mill trash bin, people had to be very worried.
07:34This is my mind, my own business, as long as I keep to myself.
07:38But some people realize it can be you.
07:41And you have to come forward, you have to do something.
07:44And your conscience gives it to you.
07:47How can I let this go on?
07:49People knew there was a monster out there that they were looking for.
07:53A person who would do this is a predator.
07:57We knew at this point we had a killer out there who had killed at least one person.
08:02And we didn't know if there was other victims out there.
08:07Word was spreading among people.
08:10What was happening?
08:13And could they be next?
08:26It was particularly horrific.
08:28Just to find a body that someone had abandoned in a trash can, and not to really know what had happened, and not to know who did it.
08:39The people on Elm Street, they were afraid.
08:45Over the Rhine is a great place to live.
08:48It's absolutely beautiful.
08:50It has so much history and character.
08:52But there's a lot of urban myths that surround this Elm Street area.
09:01Just down the street is one of Cincinnati's most historic buildings, Cincinnati Music Hall.
09:08It is a big, grand building with stained glass windows.
09:13But it was built where there are graves.
09:16And ask anyone in Cincinnati, and they'll tell you,
09:19that Music Hall is haunted.
09:25There's always been rumors of haunting in this area.
09:29But this was more terrifying than any of these urban legends.
09:33This time, there was a real life killer.
09:39People in the neighborhood, they have noticed somebody came into the community
09:44and ended up dead.
09:46And ended up dead.
09:48And if it can happen to him, it can happen to me.
09:52And so they didn't want to become a victim.
09:55Detectives didn't know who the victim was.
09:58So they had to label him John Doe.
10:02The biggest clue was the tattoo.
10:05So what we did is, we would get a hold of Crime Stoppers.
10:10And they would work with their partners in the media,
10:14that a homicide is looking for somebody who had a tattoo of Stax.
10:18Crime Stoppers is used when they really don't know who the victim is.
10:23Somebody might call because they want to remain anonymous.
10:27Or somebody might call just because they think they know something.
10:32Every now and then, somebody's going to speak up and say,
10:35somebody's going to speak up and say, no.
10:38No, I'm not going to allow this.
10:40I've seen too much.
10:42After a couple of days, we got a call
10:45from a person by the name of Eric Wallace.
10:48He said he knew a person who had a tattoo on his left forearm that said Stax.
10:53And his name was Chris Amos.
10:57I tried to reach Chris a few times on his cell phone, but he didn't answer.
11:02I didn't think really much of it because that's a party weekend.
11:09But they ran a Crime Stoppers thing.
11:12They had found a body and they had no leads.
11:16They had just been able to identify that there were tattoos saying young Stax.
11:21And I'm sitting here thinking like, well, I only know one person.
11:26Just praying and praying and praying that it wasn't him.
11:29And...
11:33Chris Amos Jr.'s dad, Chris Amos Sr.,
11:37said that his son, Chris Amos Jr.,
11:41lived in Covington, Kentucky,
11:43which is right over the river from where the body had been found,
11:46and that he lived in an apartment there.
11:49Mr. Amos provided us with a photograph of his son.
11:52And from the photograph, it matched the height and weight
11:56of the unidentified body that we had.
11:58And based on the dental records,
12:00we were able to identify the victim as 18-year-old Chris Amos Jr.
12:05Chris Amos Jr. was my best friend.
12:09I was four or five years older, but he's like a little brother to me.
12:14He liked to joke a lot. He was a jokester.
12:18He loved to, you know, tell funny stories.
12:22Chris loved to rap.
12:24Chris loved to rap.
12:26He was as talented as anybody I have ever met around in the music realm.
12:31He was very good at what he did.
12:36Chris was one of my best friends.
12:43We met in high school.
12:45We used to call him Stacks.
12:47You know Stacks over here? And I was like, no.
12:49But he'd be rapping, and Stacks was Chris.
12:50So I introduced myself, man.
12:52And then it was a wrap from there.
12:56We just kept going on, battle rapping, and he was definitely competitive.
13:01Chris and his dad were so much alike that they had butted heads.
13:06He wanted to live his own life and not constantly be told how to live his life.
13:13Eventually, he wanted to have his own apartment.
13:16Chris was a hard worker.
13:18He finally moved out of his own place, trying to be grown.
13:23He took the first step in becoming the adult.
13:28How could this have happened?
13:30He didn't have, like, mortal enemies.
13:34Chris's father pulled up on me.
13:36Later on, he told me that Chris had got murdered.
13:40Man, I bawled my eyes open.
13:42Man, I bawled my eyes open.
13:44Me and his father was crying together, and I couldn't...
13:47I couldn't bring myself to...
13:49I don't know.
13:51It was heart-wrenching, man.
13:56The pain that Mr. Amos felt, I mean, it's...
14:01You can't describe it. It goes so deep.
14:04And sometimes that idea of tough love,
14:07sometimes it gets real tough.
14:09Sometimes it gets real tough.
14:14Who would want to do this to...
14:16What would...
14:18What did he do to somebody?
14:31So, with little to go on,
14:33detectives retrieved the key they found on Chris Amos's body.
14:37We had that key,
14:39and since we had an address now for where Chris Jr. lived,
14:43we went there with that key
14:45and put it in a lock, and it opened up the door.
14:50We didn't find any furniture turned over.
14:53We didn't find any blood.
14:55We didn't find any murder weapons,
14:57so that would be a good indication
14:59that Chris wasn't killed at that location.
15:02His cell phone was not in his apartment.
15:04So we knew that the cell phone was missing.
15:08We then got the search warrant on his cell phone number
15:12to get phone records
15:14and go back to the date and time when Chris was killed.
15:19But cell phone records take a while to get back.
15:34We had Young here and Stacks here.
15:38He was 18, so he called himself Stacks.
15:41You know, everybody put the Young on it.
15:43You were either a Young, a Lil, you know, a Lil Wayne.
15:49Young Stacks just comes from having stacks of money.
15:53It seemed like a pretty big clue.
15:56Detectives believed that this was the motive that they'd been looking for.
15:59You still have that theory that it was a robbery,
16:02a set-up robbery.
16:04But it was kind of ironic that he called himself that
16:08because he did not have a lot of money.
16:13He did anything to get some extra money.
16:16You know, you had to get the money to pay the rent.
16:23Chris didn't own a car,
16:25and he didn't hang in those areas where he was found.
16:28Nobody knew why he would be in Cincinnati.
16:31All the information we were getting from people who knew him
16:34was that he was a good kid.
16:36He had several jobs.
16:38Chris worked at a nursing home.
16:41Me and my mom were able to help Chris get a job
16:45at a very nice nursing home in Covington, Kentucky.
16:50He was really good with the elderly people.
16:53He got along really well, and every one of them loved him.
16:58Chris would volunteer on some of his lunch breaks
17:01to go get some of his favorite residents
17:04and bring them down for lunch.
17:07His co-workers were cool.
17:17Except for one of his co-workers.
17:20Mr. Amos did tell us a story
17:22that Chris had some dispute with another employee
17:25at the nursing home.
17:28This could be something as callous as a co-worker
17:31who's so pissed off at him for some perceived slight at work
17:36that they would do this to him.
17:39That's not unusual in a case like this.
17:42And they fought, and this person ended up getting fired.
17:46And he blamed Chris.
17:48Certainly a tip like that we would have to follow up on
17:52because that certainly would be a motive for a killing.
18:02♪
18:12Chris worked at the nursing home,
18:14and he had some dispute with another employee
18:17at the nursing home.
18:19We've had cases in the past where there's disputes at work
18:22and led to a killing.
18:24That certainly would be a motive
18:26because the type of injuries that Chris had on him
18:29led us to believe that it was probably
18:31somebody who he knew,
18:34somebody who he had a dispute with.
18:37We were able to follow up on that lead.
18:40Detectives showed up at his co-worker's door.
18:43He admitted they did get in a fight
18:45and that he didn't like Chris,
18:47but he said he didn't kill him.
18:49We were able to determine that he was out of town
18:52at his aunt's house at the time of the murder
18:54and he couldn't have committed the murder.
18:56So that's a dead end.
18:58♪
19:00We were very concerned that this case may never get solved
19:04because every lead that we had at the point
19:07was turning up nothing.
19:09♪
19:11Chris's dad, Mr. Amos, didn't know
19:14who could have killed his son or what happened.
19:17♪
19:19That it's important to him that he just is done.
19:21That it's important to him to feel whole again.
19:24He had to do something.
19:26There's no way in the world
19:28he could just sit still.
19:31Mr. Amos knew of the distrust
19:34that the black community had with police
19:37and he was willing to put feelers out in the community
19:40to try to find out who killed his son.
19:42He wasn't thinking about his own safety.
19:45He wasn't thinking about himself.
19:47He was thinking about all the things
19:49that he couldn't do for his son anymore.
19:52But he could do that.
19:54He did come up with some leads.
19:55♪
19:57This is a hell of a puzzle.
19:59But it's coming closer and closer, you know.
20:02♪
20:04I remember Mr. Amos saying he found out
20:07that Chris was hanging out with the wrong crowd.
20:10I'm getting messages from people.
20:12I've been coming very close to finding out
20:15who the players are.
20:17But Mr. Amos didn't know who Chris was hanging with.
20:20I mean, he had heard nicknames.
20:22Ministry of Cultural Affairs,
20:23he had heard nicknames.
20:25In a street culture like this,
20:27nobody knows anyone's real names.
20:29Everyone has a nickname.
20:31It's a way to stay anonymous.
20:33Why would a kid like Chris,
20:35who had such big dreams
20:37and had never been in trouble,
20:39be hanging around such unsavory characters?
20:42Chris was not that guy.
20:44That was not his, you know, M.O.
20:47That was not his thing.
20:49That was not what he was known for.
20:51But we got some information
20:53that Chris was selling.
20:55It's an easy way to make money.
20:57He wasn't a street guy,
20:59but he had to get the money to pay the rent.
21:02When you feel like your back is against the wall,
21:04you normally do something
21:06that you wouldn't normally do.
21:08You step out on a limb,
21:10and sometimes those limbs break.
21:12And by the time you figure it out,
21:14it's too late.
21:16♪
21:18But we didn't know
21:20who Chris was hanging with that night.
21:22♪
21:24♪
21:26Mr. Amos had given some information
21:28about a rap studio
21:30that Chris would also go to,
21:32and it turned out
21:34that that rap studio was on Elm Street.
21:36Based on the fact
21:38that Chris was found on Elm Street,
21:40that was something
21:42that had to be followed up on.
21:44There were a few
21:45other recording studios.
21:47We would go to the studio,
21:49and then we would rap.
21:51We had our phones,
21:53so we would record voice messages
21:55over us rapping over bees.
21:57Okay, I'm sorry.
21:59Go ahead, Mr. Amos.
22:01Chris might have been
22:03on Thursday night
22:05going into Friday morning
22:07with Calvin, his closest friend.
22:09Talk to him.
22:11We want to talk to him, okay?
22:13Yeah.
22:16Mr. Amos thought
22:18that maybe there was
22:20some type of confrontation.
22:22Detectives knew
22:24that this was a personal attack,
22:26so that pointed them
22:28in the directions
22:30of someone who knew him.
22:32♪
22:34♪
22:39Couple days later on,
22:41I was riding down the street,
22:43hanging out,
22:45and I walked up to my house,
22:47and I seen two white men
22:49in a suit.
22:51And they walked up to me like,
22:53hey, are you Calvin Powell?
22:55And I was like,
22:57no, my father's not here.
22:59And they was like,
23:01yeah, you the one we looking for.
23:03And I was like, uh, me?
23:05And he said, man,
23:07we're from homicide.
23:09He said, Chris's father
23:11might have implicated you
23:13into the murder.
23:15I'm like, how did he tell them
23:17that I did it?
23:19I mean, I was kind of like,
23:21wow, his father,
23:23he really not playing.
23:25That was scary.
23:27I told the detectives,
23:29Chris and I got into
23:31a heated text message conversation.
23:33When I spoke to him that day,
23:35he was at home,
23:37and we had got into
23:39a confrontation about
23:41the people he was hanging with.
23:43I warned him,
23:45test him.
23:47And he said some things
23:49he shouldn't have said,
23:51I said some things I shouldn't have said,
23:53and we were going back and forth with it.
23:55That was the last time I talked to him,
23:57and two days before that
23:59was the last time I had seen him
24:01ever again in life.
24:03Mr. Ammons must have caught wind
24:05of the text messages or read them
24:07because I was going to the funeral.
24:09But I went to check his dad's hand,
24:11and he was like,
24:13where were you?
24:15And I was like,
24:17here.
24:19And they were asking me questions,
24:21I was crying.
24:23I found out they didn't want me at the funeral
24:25because they thought I did it.
24:27I was hurt, man.
24:29I was deeply hurt.
24:31But I knew I didn't do it.
24:33And then I started getting mad.
24:35My feelings were hurt,
24:37and I started getting angry.
24:39Every time someone tells the police the truth,
24:41they say, you know how many times I've heard that?
24:43I said, hey, I didn't do it.
24:45It's certainly something that needs
24:47to be followed up on.
24:49But y'all investigated me.
24:51You all are doing your job.
24:55But are you, though?
24:57They were wasting their time looking at me
24:59instead of focusing on who actually did it.
25:10The people on Elm Street in Cincinnati
25:13and the people in Covington, Kentucky
25:15they were afraid.
25:17They still didn't know who did this.
25:19Was this killer going to strike again?
25:21I was definitely cautious.
25:23It's like a Zodiac killer.
25:25You just walking around chilling,
25:27bam, somebody killed you.
25:29You don't really know when it's going to happen
25:31or what's going to happen or who's doing it.
25:33So they were scared.
25:36I was afraid to leave my house.
25:38When you have traumatic experiences,
25:40your body, your brain reacts in certain ways.
25:43Well, my reaction was, I ain't leaving the house.
25:48Detectives didn't know
25:50what else the killer was capable of.
25:52There was no telling what was next.
25:56Based on the circumstances
25:58that we thought at this time,
26:00yeah, there was a good indication
26:02that he or she would kill again.
26:07And the information that Mr. Amos gave us
26:09was that there could have been some dispute
26:11or something between them.
26:13Between Calvin and Chris.
26:16That was something that had to be followed up on
26:18based on the fact that Chris's body
26:20was found on Elm Street
26:22and the studio was also supposedly on Elm Street.
26:25Yeah, I had an alibi.
26:27They ruled me out
26:29because no evidence led back to me.
26:31We had ruled Calvin out as a suspect.
26:33He couldn't have committed the murder.
26:35I was hurt, man.
26:37I was deeply hurt.
26:39You know, when you're hurt,
26:41it just turns into a lot of anger sometimes.
26:43And I still kind of am upset about that,
26:45but I don't hold any grudges or anything to him.
26:48He was a father who lost his son.
26:53We were very concerned
26:55that this case may never get solved.
27:10Once we got the records back,
27:11we went back and concentrated
27:13on incoming and outgoing calls
27:15between August 31st
27:17and September 1st of 2005.
27:20Around the time of death
27:22that we thought the time of death was.
27:29We were able to determine
27:31there was at least 29 phone calls
27:33that came in or out of Chris's cell phone
27:36after his time of death.
27:38Somebody was still on the phone
27:39at the time of death.
27:41Somebody was still using Chris's cell phone.
27:47Detectives worked on the list of calls
27:49that had been made,
27:51and they pinpointed the name Jenna Gundy.
27:54Police called her in for questioning.
27:56She was upset,
27:58didn't know why she was being called down here,
28:00which is typical.
28:02Said she didn't know who Chris was,
28:04didn't have anything to do with it.
28:06She had said that she had
28:07let two of her friends use her cell phone,
28:09and she thought that maybe
28:11one of her friends had known Chris
28:13or someone named Chris.
28:18Also, one of the calls
28:20that piqued her interest
28:22was a call to La Rosa's pizzeria
28:24in Cincinnati.
28:26You have to give a name,
28:28especially for delivery.
28:30Maybe a pizza was delivered to an address.
28:32Maybe that's the crime scene.
28:34And when police did check back,
28:35the order had been placed
28:37under Winnie Cartwright's name.
28:39Winnie Cartwright was one of the friends.
28:41Jenna Gundy let her use her phone.
28:45Winnie Cartwright came in for an interview.
28:48Her demeanor was that
28:50she didn't know why she was coming in.
28:52She had said that she and her boyfriend
28:54had lost their cell phone,
28:56and she bought this for $10.
28:58She said she bought the phone
29:00from a person by the name of Tia Webb.
29:02So when she said Tia Webb,
29:03that rang a bell to us
29:05because that was the other person
29:07who used her cell phone.
29:11Tia, she's been at my house once.
29:13She doesn't really talk.
29:15She's, like, very quiet.
29:17Okay.
29:19And Tia lives there with who?
29:21Her boyfriend?
29:22Her boyfriend.
29:24We did a computer search on Tia,
29:26found out that she came up on Elm Street.
29:29Knowing that she lived on Elm Street
29:31and Chris's body was found on Elm Street,
29:33we knew that was someone
29:35we needed to talk to.
29:37We went out to that location,
29:39got in contact with her.
29:41She was willing to come in
29:43for an interview.
29:45Tia, she's been at my house once.
29:47She doesn't really talk.
29:49She's, like, very quiet.
29:51Okay.
29:54She was saying she didn't know
29:56anything that was going on.
29:58You know, why is she here?
30:00But after a while, she finally admitted
30:02that she knew who Chris was.
30:04Stacks is the victim's name.
30:06His real name is Chris.
30:08Did you know what his real name was?
30:10No, I didn't.
30:12You just knew him as Stacks?
30:14Yes.
30:15Okay.
30:17The fact that she knew Chris
30:19and lived right by where
30:21his body had been found,
30:23that place was kind of disheveled.
30:26We were able to go back
30:28into the bedroom.
30:30We found some sheets
30:32that had the similar pattern on
30:34the sheets that we found
30:36Chris's body wrapped in.
30:39And we also found a metal pipe
30:41and at least two box cutters.
30:45We also found some blood spatter
30:47back in the back bedroom
30:49where the box cutters
30:51and a pull were also found.
30:53Based on all the things
30:55that we found, the box cutters,
30:57knowing that Chris had been cut,
30:59we assumed that could have been
31:01one of the weapons and a pipe
31:03found there, knowing that Chris
31:05had blunt force trauma,
31:07it was nice to know that
31:09we probably found our crime scene.
31:11Back in the office, we said,
31:13what do you know about this?
31:15She said, something to the effect
31:17of I'm not the one who killed him,
31:19I'm not going down for this,
31:21but I knew who did it.
31:23He was beating him real bad.
31:28On November 16th, 2005,
31:31Tia Webb agreed to give
31:33a formal statement on
31:35what she knew about the murder
31:37of Chris Amos Jr.
31:39With us is a Tia,
31:41and last name is Webb, correct?
31:43You got to say yes or I can't.
31:45And this is in reference
31:47to the homicide of Chris Amos.
31:49Tia said that her boyfriend,
31:51Donald Jones, wanted to rob Chris
31:53and that Donald Jones
31:55had owed Chris money.
31:57He also heard that Chris
31:59had made a lot of money,
32:01so they assumed that
32:03he was flush with cash.
32:05We also had some information too
32:07that Chris might have had
32:09a thing for Tia,
32:11so the plan was for Tia
32:13to get Chris to come down
32:15to her apartment.
32:17Tia Webb was a honeypot.
32:19Honeypot is a female
32:21who lures men to be robbed
32:24On September 1st, 2005,
32:26Donald Jones brought along
32:28his friends, Tony Fry
32:30and Keith Bond, to help out.
32:32I'm showing you a photo right now.
32:34Who is this?
32:36This is 50.
32:38Okay, for the record, 50 is Keith Bond.
32:40And who is this?
32:42This is Twin.
32:44For the record, Twin is a Tony Fry.
32:46Police then set out
32:48to find Tony Fry and Keith Bond.
32:50It didn't take them long
32:51to find a Bond and Fry.
32:53They were in the Justice Center
32:55on another crime.
32:58I made arrangements for them
33:00to be transported over to CIS,
33:02the criminal investigation section.
33:04They both said that they had a part in it.
33:06You basically explained
33:08to your part
33:10what happened here to Chris Amos,
33:12who you refer to as Shorty.
33:14Is that correct?
33:15Yes, sir.
33:17Then I started hearing some commotion.
33:19I heard somebody screaming.
33:21Like, please, man, don't kill me.
33:23Like, you're only 18, man.
33:25I got a mother.
33:27Like, I'm sorry, sir.
33:29Like, please don't kill me.
33:31As I enter the room,
33:33I see Shorty laying face down
33:35on the bed
33:37with Donald on his back.
33:44It was a lot of yelling and stuff.
33:46Like, see what I mean?
33:48I look around,
33:49and I get up in the room.
33:51I open the door,
33:53and, um...
33:55Donald was hitting him
33:57in the head with a pole.
33:59They said that they had Chris tied up
34:02and that they were trying to find out
34:04where Chris's stash was,
34:06both drugs and money.
34:08They said that he was denying
34:10that he had anything.
34:14And Jones was taking a cigarette
34:16and burning Chris's arms,
34:17forearms with it
34:19to try to get him to say where it was.
34:22He was struggling.
34:24He was fighting back.
34:34Now, where are you at?
34:36Now, you're doing what?
34:39Now, you're holding his legs down
34:41by his feet.
34:43And where's Twin?
34:48By his butt?
34:52He's on the ground
34:54right there by the desk in the room.
34:56And Donald grabbed a pipe.
34:58He started beating Troy with the pipe.
35:00Surreal.
35:02Was he begging for his life?
35:04He was begging real bad, man.
35:06I feel real sorry for Troy.
35:08Now, Donald's got a box cutter.
35:10Then he grabs his head
35:12and lifts his head up
35:14and then runs the box cutter
35:15and he's trying to slit his throat.
35:17Right.
35:23Donald expressly told you, Tia,
35:26that he was the one that slit,
35:28that cut Stack's throat, correct?
35:31Correct.
35:33They did this
35:35while Tia Webb's son was in the next room.
35:37Chris was pleading for his life.
35:40And this little boy heard everything.
35:42When they were done,
35:43they took everything Chris had.
35:45And it wasn't that much.
35:47He had $7 on him.
35:49In fact, the most valuable thing he had
35:51were his Timberland boots.
35:53So they took those.
35:56Keith Bond, he also said
35:58that he actually disguised himself
36:00putting on a wig
36:02so he wouldn't get noticed.
36:04No one would know who he was
36:06when he wheeled his trash can out.
36:08Bond and Fry admitted that
36:10they were there,
36:11just to minimize what they did.
36:13But for us, for a confession like that,
36:16all we need is for them to admit
36:18that they were on scene.
36:20They all said that Donald Jones
36:22was the main culprit.
36:24Donald Jones had no qualms
36:26about killing somebody.
36:28None.
36:30When police picked up 32-year-old Donald Jones,
36:32he claimed he didn't know anything
36:34about the murder.
36:36He said he didn't even know Webb.
36:38But they had found a letter
36:39with his name.
36:41During the interview,
36:43one of the things that we can do
36:45is use evidence
36:47that we don't necessarily have
36:49as a way to elicit a certain response.
36:51And we had said that we had
36:53fingerprints on a trash bag.
36:55Once we told him that,
36:57he started to sob
36:59and admitted that he did it.
37:01You said that you had lied to us
37:03and that you wanted to tell us the truth,
37:05that you were inside there
37:07when he was killed.
37:09You know, it's almost
37:11subconscious.
37:13It's almost medieval,
37:15you know, what you did.
37:17Execution style.
37:19Holding somebody down.
37:21I don't think he had a heart.
37:23Whatever he had beating inside of him,
37:25it couldn't have been a heart.
37:27Months later,
37:29all four pled guilty.
37:32Donald Jones
37:34got a life sentence.
37:36Fry was sentenced to 10 years
37:37in prison.
37:39Tia Webb ended up getting
37:41five years of probation
37:43for tampering with evidence.
37:47For Mr. Amos,
37:49it's hard to mention his son's name
37:51because sometimes you mention
37:53your child's name,
37:55things flash through your mind
37:57subconsciously.
37:58Remember this and that and that.
38:00To mention that name,
38:02that can basically increase the grief.
38:04He's not the same man that he was
38:05before he died.
38:07He's a different person.
38:09And that name doesn't mean
38:11it's the same now.
38:13I cannot tell you how much
38:15it still
38:17just really hurts to this day
38:20to realize that
38:22somebody had it in their heart
38:24to kill him.
38:26I just, I still can't figure it out.
38:28I really can't.
38:30I loved him.

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