Irán lanzó misiles hacia Israel, confirmando las advertencias de inteligencia. Las sirenas y nuevas alarmas del Comando de Defensa Interior israelí guiaron a los ciudadanos hacia refugios. La situación sigue siendo tensa y se insta a la población a seguir los protocolos de seguridad.
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00:00Hello, team, how are you? Good afternoon to you and let's say good night to us here, it's eight o'clock at night, we're not even actors.
00:11What is the situation that is being experienced at the moment, Gabriel?
00:14Well, the situation, you were telling a little, the reality is that approximately two hours ago the intensive attack began from Iran to Israeli territory, a little less than two hours, an hour and a half.
00:31This is something that from mid-afternoon here in Israel had already been anticipated, there was precise information from the Israeli intelligence and the American intelligence
00:44that Iran was mobilizing missiles towards the western zone of its republic with the intention, it is understood, of firing against Israeli territory.
00:58This was information that, in principle, the intelligence service of the United States gave to Israel, that information was checked and from that moment the security spokesman of the Israeli army warned the population about what was going to happen.
01:18And without a doubt, they got it right, because after one of the many reports they gave in the afternoon, a little more than an hour and a half later, this attack that we are living in this moment began.
01:27Gabi, how are you? Diego Estevez.
01:30Hello Diego, how are you?
01:31First of all, my condolences for the situation you are going through, regardless of the fact that you are a journalist like us, but well, you are also a citizen who lives with his family in Israel, so I imagine the concern.
01:42Can you tell me how it is, I say, for an Israeli citizen at this time, how is the protocol, I say, because you have to act quickly, the advantage, in quotation marks, is that it is night, I imagine the families were already at home, but how is the protocol and how did you act to try to protect yourself as much as possible?
02:01Well, Diego, you know that the protocol itself, in general, is like the same protocol that we have had since the beginning of the war, I say, the sirens sound, which you can hear on television, in an application on your cell phone, or even if you are walking down the street or you are in a building, you will also hear them.
02:20And you know that immediately you have to enter a security room or a public shelter and stay there for a period of ten minutes, from the moment the siren ends to the moment you can go out again.
02:34Well, in this case, this protocol was incorporated, and this is something that the Israeli Interior Defense Command is somehow premiering in the last few hours, it is an extra alarm, an alarm that does not depend on any application or television channel, but directly, I don't know if the word would be intervened, but in some way what the Civil Defense Service did
03:03is to have access to all the phones to be able to immediately send a message with an extreme siren indicating that you have to enter because there is an extreme alert that does not allow you to stay one more second outside.
03:17This is something that we inaugurated for the entire population today. In fact, when we had to enter the shelter, we were at home, I was going out to the channel, we had to go, we were with Faco in the air, we had to go to the shelter, and we left from there, in that same place where we were with my wife and my two children.
03:41Is the shelter in your house a room that you have in your house or does it correspond to the complex where you live?
04:11We know that in case of having to run to the shelter, well, we are going to invade it for that period of time, the place in the oldest buildings, generally the departments either do not have a security room or have a room, either on the floor or depending on the type of building it is, one general for the entire building, in case it is not so big, and which you have to reach depending on the time that the siren allows you by locality.
04:37I mean, it is not the same time as the one in the north, close to the border, which is 15 seconds, the one I have, which is in the center of the country, which is a minute and a half. In that case of emergency, a minute and a half is a lifetime. I mean, clearly that it is 115 seconds, they are very under pressure to be able to reach the shelter.
04:59Now, Gaby, how are you, Lucía greets you, the same as Diego, we hug you from home, we know that it is a very difficult situation because you are working and at the same time you are living moments of a lot of tension, so we thank you as always for going out into the air here in A24.
05:13Now, what are the steps to follow? I understand that we were just talking at the table, the airport is closed, the sirens continue to sound, there is a security protocol to follow, what happens with the running of the hours from now on?
05:25Look, this is something that you will continue to inform us, I would tell you, Lu, minute by minute. In fact, at this moment, while I am talking to you, I am with the TV on, the spokesman of the army is speaking again.
05:38At the beginning of the war, we were used to having two conferences a day, one at noon and one at night, then it only happened at night, and as of today, it is already the seventh conference, because what it is doing is updating minute by minute, if the directives change, in which part of the country they change, at this moment it changed for the whole country.
06:03Because I say, as well as until this morning or this afternoon, we came by areas, the north that has not stopped since a year ago, the south also, the center that today was bombed again, both Tel Aviv and the surroundings, but they are places, to call it in a specific way, since the attack on Iran began an hour and a half ago, it is doing the whole country.
06:24I say, if we see the application of the alarms, suddenly the map was filled with colored arrows that indicate that there was a bombing in the whole country. So, of course, massive. So, what is happening at this moment is the same directives for the whole country, it only changes the time of arrival at a shelter.
06:48Regarding the airport, you asked, Lu, for the moment it is closed, there is no information yet about how long it will be closed. I would like, in some way, to go back to what was the previous attack, direct from Iran to Israel in April, that the airport was closed for three hours.
07:08The truth is also that, from what we are seeing at the moment, it is not the same type of attack. I say, in April there had been suicide drones that took nine hours to arrive and that, in some way, was too much sold and too much advertised, like a great Hollywood movie. Today they are throwing ballistic missiles that take 12 minutes to arrive and the only thing we see on television is how they are going to intercept the defense systems, the iron dome and Israel.
07:35We could not say for how long it will be.
07:39Gabi, to dimension the attack and in what instance is the conflict, we are seeing images that are shocking with dozens of missiles falling one after another, some intercepted by the iron dome, but many that enter Israeli territory.
07:55No, to enter Israeli territory, they are all entering. Most are being intercepted by the iron dome. The iron dome is very effective, it is very good, but what Iran is also doing is playing to oversaturate it.
08:13You know that each base of the iron dome has approximately 24, 25, I do not remember well, anti-missile missiles, that is, they are the ones that are fired to be able to go out and explode the missiles that Iran has. The issue is simple, if they are going to throw 50 missiles towards the same place, it is most likely that that base, which corresponds to radar, will act against the missiles, at some point it will oversaturate.
08:41And then there is the danger that a missile will fall and that is why the security guards that the army is asking for with all the population, regarding where they are and where they are not.
08:51Gabi, to make a brief review and understand what situation the conflict is in, this attack by Iran, which is being judged by Iran, has to do with the response after the assassination of one of the main leaders of Hezbollah, right?
09:08What happened on the weekend?
09:10Let's see, to give a more general context and for the situation to be understood, what has happened since October 7, last year onwards, is related to Iran.
09:21Hezbollah is a proxy of Iran, the Houthis in Yemen are a proxy of Iran, all the terrorist organizations that are operating around Israel, some even not only against Israel, but against the same European countries, like Hezbollah.
09:40Hezbollah, which has declared war against Israel, also has the Lebanese population hostage, and this is something that is worth understanding. Israel and Lebanon have no relationship to this day, and for many years exclusively because of Hezbollah, but there is no relationship of war between the two countries.
10:00In fact, Gabi, it seemed very interesting to me what you raised a few days ago, when this attack and massive explosions of the walkie-talkies and the handys, the beepers, there in Hezbollah members, this that you mentioned.
10:14Well, there may be a complicity, a union between Israel and the Lebanese government too, right? Beyond the fact that the attack was not judged.
10:22That would be the best thing that could happen in some way, and above all the best thing that could happen to Lebanon. Clearly, Lebanon is a hostage, and the Lebanese population is a hostage of Hezbollah, because they cannot live in peace purely and exclusively because of the terrorist organization that is installed in their country.
10:41Clearly, the best thing that could happen is that Lebanon does not rebel against Hezbollah. Yesterday, in fact, Israel began to carry out certain operations, entering the area closest to the border between the two countries.
10:57It was the Lebanese army itself that decided to withdraw from the place to allow Israel to enter, basically because the Lebanese army does not have the strength to fight against Hezbollah.
11:11Gabi, can you give me a second? Wait for me on the line, I have Luis Rosales live from the United States.
11:16Perfect, of course.
11:27We have Luis Rosales, journalist, colleague, friend of the house, and also an international relations specialist. How are you Luis? Diego Esteves, Carlos Estriones, Lugaldi, and Nahuel Suarez.
11:42Hello Diego, how are you Carlos, how are you? Well, here I am in the state of Nevada, particularly in the city of Las Vegas, although it sounds strange to be in Las Vegas.
11:53There is also a campaign because 3 million Americans live there. I am linked to one of the electoral campaigns here, that of Donald Trump. Very worried, the truth, very worried about all this.
12:06Of the greatest number of versions that can be heard, the Americans, when they are in electoral mode, become very sensitive and in some cases even paranoid about what happens on the international stage.
12:22Here everything is conceived, at this moment, in electoral mode. The election in the United States is quite even, so any event in the world that has to do with the United States and the Middle East, particularly Israel,
12:41always has an impact here and a lot, even electorally too, obviously. It is interpreted as to who it benefits or harms in the campaign of the November elections.
12:54Yes, it is interesting, that reading. I don't know if it has to do with the urgent, which is the information of what is happening now. I think we have to focus on that place, with the attack of Iran directly on Israeli territory.
13:07An attack that Gabriel Avstrovsky just told us about. It really is a climb. Gaby, I know you are there, if you want to participate and exchange with Luis, you are also welcome.
13:18Hi Luis, how are you?
13:22Hi Gabriel, how are you?
13:25I agree with what Luis just said. Clearly, not only the United States, all the population of the United States sees the situation clearly from the electoral part, but also that Israel, the Israeli population and the Israeli leaders,
13:41those who somehow need to see how the support of the United States varies regarding how the campaign progresses. I mean, it is known that the United States is a partner of Israel and that there will always be support from the United States for Israel,
13:56but it is not the same support that is expected to have in the event that Kamala Harris wins or in the event that Donald Trump wins.
14:03Correct me, Luis, if that is not the case, at least from what you have heard from American politics, the Republicans are more pro-war than the Democrats. At least that is one of the banners that Donald Trump is voicing.
14:18Well, that in general is particular, because if you refer to the war in Ukraine, the Republicans want there to be a ceasefire, a kind of agreement between Russians and Ukrainians.
14:31Regarding Taiwan and China, they are not so supportive of supporting Taiwan blindly, especially Trump, that in that as a practitioner, as an entrepreneur. In Israel it is a different issue.
14:45Now, we have to make this issue clear, there is a clear war declared between Iran and Israel, of course, through part of their proxies, that is, from the control organizations, Iran, Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas in Gaza, also the Houthis in Yemen.
15:11But the bottom line is that there is, the conflict is escalating and you can already talk about a war between Iran and Israel. This direct attack from Iran to Israel blankets this situation. When Israel attacks Hamas or attacks Hezbollah, Iran responds directly.
15:31But the bottom line is that there is, the conflict is escalating and you can already talk about a war between Iran and Israel. When Israel attacks Hamas or attacks Hezbollah, Iran responds directly.
15:56Now, let's go back to Gaby, who is directly from the place. It is known that there are movements of aircraft carriers, of ships, let's say, with a lot of firepower in what is the Mediterranean, in expectation, Gaby.
16:09For now, there is no direct intervention from the United States, but yes, a symbolic and close support to Israel. Now, I have my doubts about a potential intervention from the United States, because one imagines that Russia, although it is having another conflict, which is Ukraine, we also know that it has support or is on the side of Iran.
16:36Do you support the United States on its side, allied to Iran? The United States is very firm, and the US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said it again a few hours ago, regarding the position of the United States with Israel at this time against Iran.
16:50The United States indicated that it will defend, it has aircraft carriers at the moment and an army deployed in the vicinity of the area in the Middle East, and indicated that it will act in case it is necessary to defend Israel against the attacks of Iran.
17:08In fact, in the middle of a statement, Blinken also sent a very direct message to Iran, saying that any type of attack against Israel will have retaliation, and he spoke of retaliation in general, not only from the military side, but also from the political position of the United States with Iran.
17:28I mean, there is clearly an openly defensive position on the part of the United States, even, as you said before, when a few days ago the United States had called a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah, and when France had also done it.
17:46Now, 24 hours after the United States asked for a ceasefire, the United States was informed about the operation that was sought to be implemented to eliminate Hassan Nasrallah last Friday, and the United States gave Netanyahu his good list.
18:03Well, basically because Nasrallah was not only the head of Hezbollah, a terrorist organization that terrifies Israel, but it is also a terrorist organization that terrifies the whole world.
18:27But beyond this, until September 11, 2001, that is, until the attack on the Twin Towers, Hezbollah was responsible for the largest number of deaths of Americans in terrorist attacks, both in the United States and abroad around the world.
18:45Which in some way the United States had also sworn to Nasrallah.
19:15The United States had also sworn to Nasrallah.
19:41The United States had also sworn to Nasrallah.
20:11Carlos, this took place about an hour ago, almost in parallel with the beginning of the attack on Iran.
20:24Two terrorists were traveling by train in the city of Tel Aviv, they got off at a station in the south of the city, in the part of Jaffa, they began to shoot at the people who were in the place, and they shot more than 15 people.
20:41At this point, there is already precise information that these two terrorists were also eliminated, but the reality is that immediately after the attack, they managed to escape.