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Evan Marinofsky and Conor Ryan are back with another episode of Bruins Beat! In this edition, the guys discuss Brad Marchand describing what he wants in a right-wing, and whether that could be found in Fabian Lysell. They also discuss his contract talks, and speculate whether it was about Jeremy Swayman as he continues his negotiations.    Prize Picks - https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/CLNS Download the app today and use Code CLNS when you sign up & Get $50 instantly when you play $5!   Gametime - https://gametime.co Take the guesswork out of buying MLB tickets with Gametime. Download the Gametime app, create an account, and use code CLNS for $20 off your first purchase. Download Gametime today. Last minute tickets. Lowest Price. Guaranteed. Terms apply.  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the #CLNS Media Network’s YouTube channel for Boston #Bruins hockey. CLNS Media is the leading online provider of audio/video coverage for the Boston sports. Get complete inside access to the Bruins at TD Garden, the game day skates at Warrior, and everywhere on the road. CLNS #NHLBruins' credentialed insiders Mike "Trags" Petraglia, Evan Marinofski, Conor Ryan, and Joe "Haggs" Haggerty. Providing instantaneous news and analysis all in real time, as well as full access to complete videos from the players, coaches, ownership and everyone else on Causeway Street.  For the CLNS award winning Celtics, Patriots, Red Sox, College hoops, NBA History, go here to featured channels- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiP7KyKodc3OHuN_XhEyPPw?sub_confirmation=1

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00:33off your first purchase terms apply I'm Evan Maranofsky that is Connor Ryan

00:38Connor what's up Evan I'm doing well how you doing doing great doing great I had

00:45an epiphany today and I think it's you know with the Red Sox being 70 and 70 at

00:50the time of recording they have plummeted in the past couple days weeks

00:54pretty much all of August the Patriots are starting up soon and boy does that

01:00roster look terrible I got a glimmer of hope at captain's practice this week of

01:05oh a good team now obviously the Celtics exist and they're on their way but

01:10they're not quite back yet they're still enjoying the fruits of their win back in

01:14June but just seeing a winning team a team that should win we'll see what

01:20happens but a team that at least there's hope you know at least there's like a

01:24reason for fans to watch this fall it just brought me a little hope that hey

01:31you know what you and I we're on the good side of it so I'm happy about that

01:35yeah it's better than watching I think I says for I don't think anything more

01:40frustrating more demoralizing than bad football like maybe like bad I think it

01:46says like bad pitching bad bullpen when you got a guy that like walks five guys

01:50in a row like that that will drive you crazy but I think like especially bad

01:54offense for football is the worst there's nothing fun about it it's a

01:59Sunday you should be relaxed you just get stressed out the the delivery guy

02:04gives you the wrong order forgets like the garlic bread and forgets like the

02:07the cheesy bread from Domino's ruins everything the vibes are all are all off

02:12yeah the fact that I think we at least will have the Bruins obviously the

02:17Celtics will be really good as well but as we traverse through especially once

02:20you get to like the worst part of the year right you get past Christmas and

02:24it's like January through March and it's just the the doldrums on the calendar

02:28these will have two good teams to keep tabs on the Red Sox and Patriots I don't

02:34know I mean Red Sox are pretty much there they're done yeah yeah no way it's

02:40funny you mentioned stuff cheesy bread I just want to give a shout out a shout

02:43out to a Puppa Geno's I go to Foxboro a lot because Fox for Sports Center's

02:49they have a lot of hockey that I have to watch and then Puppa Geno's they have

02:52two Puppa Geno's in Foxboro one is right near the rink so I will go there

02:57oftentimes before or after I leave and I got a chicken broccoli Alfredo like a

03:03couple weeks ago from there yeah interesting choice but I wanted

03:07something to cob up that's fine that's fine yeah it's a lot of carbs they gave

03:11me a ton of extra stuff cheesy bread so I was like hell yes what a move but then

03:17driving an hour home that was um yeah that was but you know what it tasted

03:22great so that's really that's all that matters I used to always like one do

03:26they still have the the cowboy to cut out of Teddy Brewski there I went to one

03:30recently and they still had it there's a little janky in there wasn't all that

03:35great so I remember the back in the day though you know it was a good spot for a

03:41birthday party was Papa Geno's I know why you had your own spot you had your

03:45own little like nook you'd have your own corner right there and they let you put

03:49the pizza in the oven which I'm sure in the year of our little 2024 they do not

03:53let little children behind the counter and throw pizza into the stove just

03:58coughing on everything I think that's the case anymore hands but back in the

04:02day it was a blast Evan yeah that's I agree with you that's uh I agree Biden's

04:09America you put all like the cheese and pepperoni on which if you're like six

04:16years old you're doing a shitty job you're trying to make like a smiley face

04:19it looks yeah looking afterwards it's terrible yeah awful awful I'm just

04:26saying that right now if you gave me the opportunity I would nail it but I don't

04:31think a little 31 year old man behind the counter to throw pizza into the

04:34stove I think I haven't asked I haven't asked like maybe they will but I don't

04:39want to cause a ruckus it's one of those things like it's so much pressure in

04:43that like I was watching a tick tock the other day of this guy because now it's

04:47popular on tick tock people making food and watching it and I enjoy it and he

04:51just the stroke that goes into the oven it's like holy crap like I can't I can't

04:58do that like I'd be like hell no no upside down yeah I'd face like oh shit

05:07shit shit like leave it to the experts yeah leave it to them anyways we could

05:13do we could have a weekly pub a genos podcast one can bread Martian made some

05:19interesting comments at captain's practice after day one day two was on

05:24Thursday Elias Lindholm spoke Jonas Corpus Allo spoke Marcus Delic spoke

05:30coolest part was Corpus Allo had a Springsteen shirt on which Scott

05:34McLaughlin was enthralled by so that was the first Scott McLaughlin's column

05:39being like we don't they don't need Jeremy Soyman he loves Springsteen and

05:45he said his favorite song I heard him say was like born in the USA so good for

05:48him that Springsteen's the classic yet can't hate Springsteen but Brad Marchant

05:53spoke any any I thought he touched on a lot of interesting things we'll get to

05:57sort of his con his contractual comments in a bit but what stuck out to me and we

06:02mentioned this a little bit on poke the bear want to dive into it here was sort

06:08of his comments he made on who he wants to be the second line right wing with

06:12him because he acknowledged that he's gonna be with Charlie Coyle most likely

06:15at least to begin the year and you know someone asked him hey what do you want

06:19on the right side obviously he's not gonna come out and be like I want Morgan

06:23Geeky or I want Fabian Lysel he's not gonna do that but he did give some

06:27insight into what they're looking for and the big things are you know we don't

06:32care if you can dangle through three people we want someone who plays

06:35responsibly we want someone who plays both ends of the ice we're gonna be a

06:38shutdown line so we need someone that embraces that and that's not you know

06:44just on paper that's not quite Fabian Lysel that's more so someone like a

06:48Morgan Geeky or a Trent Frederick now again training camp has yet to even

06:53happen so a lot is going to change a lot can change Fabian Lysel certainly can

06:59change that narrative and I assume we'll you know make every effort to do so but

07:05are things kind of stacked against him in this case not even so much from the

07:08coaching staff but from Brad Marchand yeah I mean it's definitely probably an

07:13uphill climb right because and again like I think that could be also one of

07:17Marchand reinforcing just some of these younger guys when you have a guy like

07:21him you have a guy like Mark Ulof these younger players that you know I think

07:26it's been talked about quite a bit this summer that they should be able to step

07:29in and an opportunity should be there for them it's also I think reinforcing

07:33that even if you know a guy like Lysel with his skill set is really intriguing

07:37and and really a dynamic player you know he can't just go in and be this kind of

07:44empty calorie or one-dimensional player and expect to stick up there now does

07:49that mean like if Lysel you know makes one defensive miscue in the first

07:55preseason game like Marchand is gonna kick the door into Jim Montgomery's

07:58office and be like I want this guy off the off the team no I don't know and if

08:03that is that's not great because the Bruins need to let these guys develop

08:06and when you have a guy that has this upside in Lysel and again it's not to

08:11say he's a lock to be a 25 goal scorer right but like when you have a guy who

08:17has this skill set I think some of what it takes to let these guys develop is to

08:22give them a little bit of leeway you know maybe he's not you know a

08:26prototypical Bruin right like in terms of what you're looking for in terms of

08:31the skill set the physicality the two-way play all that stuff maybe he's

08:35kind of cut from a different cloth but I think if he has a unique skill set in

08:41something that can help this team out you roll with you roll with a guy like

08:44that like this is probably a bad comparison I'm comparing two guys who

08:49you know are legends for the Bruins but like you look at like Rick Middleton for

08:53years like wasn't a prototypical Bruin in terms of the way he played right like

08:57people look it was like he's more of a Montreal kind of you know very skilled

09:02player with Bruins fans not take Rick Middleton David Critchie wasn't

09:06necessarily a prototypical Bruin in terms of his far from it right you know

09:10so and again that's not to say that Lysel is you're gonna trade him for you

09:15know pennies on the dollar he's gonna be a 70-point guy somewhere else but just

09:18because maybe his his strengths don't fit the mold as to what the Bruins are

09:23maybe looking for doesn't mean they should shun them or not give him an

09:25opportunity to grow because you know some of it comes down to again Lysel in

09:30his own game right he's got to go out there and produce and prove guys like

09:33Marcia and wrong right in terms of like hey I maybe not I won't be winning a

09:37selkie the next couple years but yeah watch me dangle through these three

09:40guys and let me set up this tapping goal for you right like that at the end of

09:45the day is what kind of can change that rationale there so I don't view it as

09:49like a shot across the bow from Martian or gatekeeping that spot right if Lysel

09:54offers the highest ceiling there I think you roll with them and let him develop

09:58along the way but I think it's probably just a reminder that you know as

10:03intriguing and exciting as a guy like Lysel should be and he should be

10:06knocking at the door and they should give him an opportunity it's not gonna

10:10just gonna be handed to him I think the Bruins know that I think we all know

10:13that going into it but having the captain of the team kind of reinforce

10:16that I think just as another way to show that you know it's not gonna be if Lysel

10:20has one assist over five preseason games and he's floating down the other end of

10:26the ice it's not gonna work for you you gotta show that you know to make most

10:30of the opportunity handed to you and take that job because again he's the

10:34most exciting player but the Bruins have a whole lot of contingency plans in

10:37place behind him if it doesn't work out or he doesn't impress enough in the next

10:40couple of months that's the thing and I think with a guy like Lysel and any

10:45young player you have to understand they're gonna be mistakes and you know

10:48sometimes big mistakes I mean you even look at Matt Potra last year you know

10:52and I know we'll talk a lot about him throughout training camp but like he's

10:56someone who plays you know Bruins kind of style and that he's a two-way forward

11:00I mean it's not like you know some brute physical force but two-way forward who

11:04can you know chip in offensively quite a bit there were games when you'd be like

11:08oh I totally didn't even realize he played and now granted he's 19 or he was

11:1219 so it's a little bit different but he's still a young player and I think

11:16with Lysel like you know if he I think in a 20 game sample size there are gonna

11:21be some great offensive plays that you're like holy crap and then they're

11:25gonna be some defensive miscues where you're like how did that how did that

11:28happen how do you do that and I think that comes with developing in the NHL

11:33and any coach needs to allow any young player to make those mistakes and it

11:40just comes down to is it worth it to leave that player out there to make

11:43those mistakes and oftentimes it is because you know with Lysel a guy like

11:46Lysel ceiling you hope that he hits that the question is you know obviously Brad

11:52Martian has no problem playing with a younger player but at the same time in a

11:57contract year when offense matters and you're looking to win and you know you

12:02want competent line mates or at least reliable line mates is he gonna be open

12:09to someone like a Fabian Lysel if there are going to be those defensive issues

12:13are the Bruins gonna be open to that like that's where I kind of wonder and

12:18again if Lysel has a kick-ass training camp there's no question like he has to

12:22be right and I think it's gonna you know settle a lot of questions but I just

12:27think going into it I do wonder the openness of playing with a rookie with

12:32those you know positives and negatives I think that's a valid question to ask

12:37yeah no absolutely I mean it is just something where it's not like the 2017-18

12:42team right where that team was kind of in the tail end of like a legitimate I

12:47guess rebuild retool everyone to put it like there was runway there for that

12:52team that was just trying to build something back up to be like yeah we can

12:56roll it in just Bjork and Jake DeBrusque and all these guys and it was

12:59exciting but you could see where they were at that point in terms of that you

13:03know overhaul of the roster that a lot more digestible to or a lot easier to

13:08map out why they would do that now where this team you know is viewed as you know

13:12a contender or team that's in the very least in the mix you can see why there

13:16probably is maybe more that hesitancy of putting Gallagher Lysel in such a

13:20critical role but again you kind of look at the hand that's dealt to the Bruins

13:24yes they do have Frederick who could be in that spot and probably projects as a

13:28steady two-way player you know Frederick's a guy that has kind of been

13:33underrated the last couple years in terms of his defensive game and doing

13:37some of the little things that help out his line quite a bit but like for Lysel

13:42like the skill is there and it's like even if maybe you have to deal with one

13:45of those games where yeah you're ripping your hair out looking at the tape the

13:49next day or you know he's doing something that leaves a lot to be

13:52desired like some of that also comes with just the growing pains of operating

13:57the NHL and if the if you have a game or two like that and I know like the Bruins

14:02are in this kind of win now formula but if those you know one or two games of

14:07frustration lead to a guy like Lysel becoming a 20 goal 45 50 point guy down

14:12the road or a guy that can flourish into something even greater than that I think

14:18the long term out long term goal there is well worth it for a guy that is still

14:22young he's only 21 he's cost-controlled he's a really cheap asset that has more

14:27room to grow and he's such a unique player in a system and a team that

14:31doesn't have many guys that can kind of do what he can do when he's on his game

14:34so I get I get weighing those two you know mentalities in terms of March and

14:40and the urgency of winning now but sooner or later like again if you want

14:44to keep the same win now formula the Bruins would keep on trading first round

14:47picks it's just not tenable there needs to be some at you know at this stage of

14:52you know patience and letting some of these young guys flourish and again if

14:55he doesn't work out I'd rather the Bruins go through the growing pains and

14:59maybe you know put Lysel in the spot that maybe he's not ready for and you

15:03find out in the end of November when he's got two goals and four assists in

15:0822 games and he's not doing much the other end of the ice then you know

15:12that's not gonna sink you that's not gonna sink this season it's not

15:16like it's like holy crap we're done now like he is baby Lysel has ruined the

15:21Bruins that's a great that'd be a great headline for someone who actually ruins

15:26the Bruins but I also think like boys you know I'm spitting bars over here by

15:34the way that creaky line that was with was the beginning of 1718 was that Bjork

15:39and DeBrusque on his left and right if memory serves no Bjork is with Martian

15:43and oh you know he must have an imposter not yeah I I don't know actually

15:48it was against the Predators right yeah that was that game and DeBrusque had his

15:52first maybe it was maybe it was Bjork I'm not cuz I think it was still no no

15:58you know what I think it was it Bjork Martian and Bergeron and then you had

16:04DeBrusque creaky Pasternak something like that I forget but like I think all

16:11those guys the air listen it didn't it enters Bjork top line top six forward

16:17didn't work out so unfortunate a little a little hazy DeBrusque started with

16:21crazy we all know that so yes and stayed there by the way one last thought on my

16:25cell I also think like if he plays to what he's capable of offensively that

16:32helps you win now like that's the biggest and if he hits his stride not

16:37until February or something like that helps you there too so again but it's up

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18:44you know Martian mentioned Coyle you know playing with Coyle again that puts

18:49him on the second line so we would assume that at least going into camp

18:52that first line will be Zaka Lindholm and Pasternak that was something we

18:57talked about when they signed Lindholm but again I think that's a fairly good

19:02first line I mean you think about Pavel Zaka we you know I think now it's pretty

19:06obvious that he's gonna be moved to the wing I think that's fine works with

19:11Pasternak well and I think that two-way presence down the middle works to me

19:14like I I think that line probably stays together and at least succeeds the only

19:19way I think that line breaks up is if that second line isn't producing and

19:22they try to move Martian up or you know try to jungle the lines but I like the

19:27look on paper of that first line yeah I mean I think you look at David

19:32Pasternak put him with anyone put him with us and probably a pretty good line

19:36Who would play the middle I don't know I think he'd have to play the middle

19:39just let him take the puck and go yeah exactly I'll just stand in the corner do

19:42nothing but no I think having a guy that dynamic that can drive play with just

19:48about anyone is obviously a huge help but as we kind of say and we look at

19:52these different groupings and players and it's all about kind of mapping out

19:56how they can take steps forward like Elias Lindholm yes he had a down season

20:00last year but he's a guy that has the resume has the track record it's not

20:05like he's the guy that you're banking on like maybe this is the year he hit 60

20:08points like now he's done a couple times he's had three 60-point seasons obviously

20:13I think you're asking a lot for him to be the 42 82 42 goal guy that he was a

20:19few years back with Calgary I don't think that being the case but I think a

20:22full year next to David Pasternak full year next to Pavel Zakha who I think

20:28benefits from being on the wing where you can kind of play a more simplified

20:31game hopefully a more shot ready kind of mentality because every time the guy

20:35fires off a shot it's usually like a absolute howitzer like it's flying

20:40flying past guys like he really needs to tap more into that and there's more room

20:45to grow there as well in terms of maybe just you know putting the blinders on a

20:48little bit more for his game and having him play a more simple game but I think

20:53there's a lot to like about what you can have there went home especially even like

20:57you look at where he was last year with Vancouver right like was on the third

21:02line as a center there he wasn't gonna necessarily bump out Pedersen or JT

21:06Miller and also like even like top power play minutes like him being on the

21:11bumpest spot there on the top you know for the Bruins should help them out

21:15quite a bit so I just think you look at all three of those guys you don't have to

21:18worry about Pasternak he's gonna get his points he's gonna drive play but I think

21:22those two guys especially should fit well with him and there's I think more

21:27room to grow there both for Zaka in his role but also I think it's not out of

21:32the question to expect really like a 60-point season from Lindholm in his

21:36first year here I this is the thing with Lindholm like I keep looking at that

21:40line and we've talked about this in predictions episodes but like you look

21:43at that situation right Pasternak on your right Zaka on your left top power

21:48play minutes playing a lot like first and it's expect like 70 points out of

21:56that I don't know what like and I know it to me with the scene I know you

21:58project I think you predicted like you and I predicted the exact same or like

22:02one off like 71 and some like that or something there I've seen people who are

22:07down on Lindholm obviously and think that this might not work definitely

22:11long-term but like the situation is conducive to him producing like I think

22:17that I think every door is he's gonna have every opportunity to put up a lot

22:21of points and again if he doesn't that's on him but I just you know the

22:26situation itself lends me to believe that he's gonna have a really good year

22:29and I know that looks that makes me sound like I have my black and gold

22:32glasses on but it's true I mean that's a that's a good first line you're with one

22:39of the best right wingers in hockey and on the left side you have a guy who has

22:42a great connection with one of the best right wingers in hockey so like I just

22:47you know argue with best right winger in hockey so like I just I don't see you

22:52know him having a down year Lindholm I'm talking about like I just I don't see it

22:56I know that last year wasn't wasn't great and then the third line thing in

23:00Vancouver always surprised me and then that the idea that they would keep him

23:03so yeah it doesn't make a lot of sense like you're pegging a round hole yeah

23:07great player but again like yeah like you're set down the middle ruins not so

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24:56it's game time now back to the show so one of the interesting things Marcian

25:01said the other day was sort of about his contract said quote I'm gonna say this

25:05now and kind of leave it at that I won't ever talk about contract stuff in the

25:09media I saw a report the other day I think it was the hockey news I don't

25:12know where he's getting his information it wasn't from our side we're not gonna

25:15talk about it whatever goes on will stay internal between Don Sweeney and our

25:18group I'll leave it at that I think there's enough respect between the two

25:21sides that we can deal with it and I have your boston.com story open right

25:25now Connor so you're welcome for the page view but it's so some have wondered

25:31and hags and I talked about this yesterday on pucks with hags was that a

25:35kind of you know subtle message to Jeremy Swayman of respectfully stop

25:43talking about contractual things in the media and I said to hags I said well you

25:47know I don't know if that's really like Martians leadership style would wouldn't

25:50you know you just kind of talk about this amongst yourselves would you really

25:54do it publicly if you're against you know if you're against talking contract

26:00stuff in the media wouldn't you also be against kind of talking about someone

26:04talking about contractual stuff in the media and hags been interesting point

26:07saying you know that's not you know some things don't talk about one-on-one you

26:12know the awkward if I went up to you in the press box and said so what do you

26:16make why do you make what you make but obviously their stuff's public but I you

26:25know and he made that point and I think it's interesting I like that I like

26:29talking about the theory that maybe Martian was kind of saying you as a

26:33leader hey we don't talk about that stuff publicly but also I think Martian

26:40also seemed kind of peeved by this hockey news story so you have that too

26:44where it's like he mentions that I think he's agitated about that I think he's

26:50mad at that so I mean do I think he probably disagrees with how Swayman is

26:55handling this probable I mean given Martians comments that is not how

26:59Swayman's handled this but do I think Swayman was in his mind as he was saying

27:03it probably not I don't think yeah I as much as everyone I think views

27:10especially in sports the drama things everyone thinks at all every and I love

27:14we love drama we love oh yeah we love a little fire I like it but the fact

27:19everyone thinks everyone is geared up in these press conferences to drop a

27:22succession ass quote or some Aaron Sorkin ass writing it's like no like I

27:28do think it's more of it has to do with him being pissed off about that hockey

27:31news article which I don't know where the fuck that came from right look I

27:35feel like all those in the media were like with a 50 cent we're all like we

27:38don't write this story wait wait wait a goddamn minute so I don't know where the

27:43hell that came from in terms of like poor Joe poor Joe Porellis yes into the

27:49show that's what he gets that's what that's what that's what your company

28:00gets a rough way to start practice just getting punched in the face but no I

28:05think it had more to do with that I'm I don't Joe didn't write the story by the

28:09way yeah but yes Joe did not write the story they had like a Zordon AI person

28:16I can write it or something else like that who the fuck knows but no but I do

28:21think when you look at at Marsha and they get more to do with being peeved

28:24about that of his own contract negotiation I'm sure I guess you said

28:28like it's not really how he does things in terms of me being as open with

28:33contracts and those kind of things as Swainman's done but thinking that it's

28:37all this concoct you know concoction of thinking this is all premeditated of I'm

28:42gonna throw a dagger at my franchise goal whose only reason we played into

28:45May last year I don't think I think people are reading a little bit too much

28:49into that to be honest I think in Marcia's were being peeved about

28:52whatever that hockey news report was and kind of shutting it down and Martians

28:56always been good at that in terms of like setting the parameters early on

29:00about stuff that he doesn't doesn't want to talk about being kind of transparent

29:04with that of his approach to it and all that so I do it more of what we've seen

29:08from him and how he's addressed those things for years now as opposed to him

29:12weaving in a dig at Swainman in the middle of his first press conference of

29:16the year yeah I also would like I my guess is that Swainman probably never

29:23addresses this contract situation again until after he's signed yeah he'll talk

29:29about oh happy to be here and my guess is his message will be I'm over this I

29:32want to talk about the season and move into that and I think we probably won't

29:36hear much from him directly on how he's feeling about this I think that's all

29:41out there as he made extremely clear and there's been some reporting over the

29:47last couple days that is new I see Ryan Whitney from spit and chiclets saying

29:52that he's hearing the Bruins offered Swainman four years times 6.2 million

29:56per but then you had sort of a little bit of a conflicting report from Cam

30:01Robinson over at elite prospects saying word around the campfire is that Boston

30:06and Jeremy Swainman are a lot closer to an agreement than recently reported

30:11and I guess and maybe it's not conflicting because you know then it

30:15could be around the same number Whitney did mention though that the Bruins have

30:18not talked with Swainman in I think weeks he said so interesting stuff if it

30:26is four years times 6.25 as what they're offering I mean that's much lower than

30:32we thought like I mean I've had eight times eight the entire time I mean that

30:38would be a bargain I think for the Bruins do I see Swainman accepting that

30:42I would be shocked given that we're at this point I would think that number

30:46would at least the the AAV would have to be much higher yeah no I would be and

30:51again like you're hearing more and more of it maybe not being necessarily like

30:54an eight-year deal which it seems like if that's from the Bruins camp and we

30:58can argue I think he's gonna sign for more than six to five and again like

31:02there's only so much a guy can do as an RFA but it does seem rather low for a

31:07guy that really did have a good postseason but you keep on hearing all

31:10these reports that it's not eight years that it's four or five years and kind of

31:14a longer bridge deal if you want to call four or five years a bridge deal you do

31:19wonder if there is like trepidation or just still intrigue from the Bruins as

31:23to what this guy is in terms is he really a guy that should be getting an

31:28eight by eight contract so I don't know what's your take on where you think it

31:33should be right now I mean I I mean he got lit up in the shootout today

31:36captain's practice so I mean you know I think two million a year might might

31:43kind of make it work no I mean in all seriousness like I think there's you

31:48know is there trepidation on their end there could be in terms of do we really

31:51just want to hand this guy eight years eight million that's you know a lot of

31:55money you're hoping it works but as we've talked about and we talked about

31:59this when the when Swayman's comments first came out where we were like you

32:03know he hasn't played all that much so like you don't have a ton to go off of

32:08the signs are great the signs are awesome but you know it's not like

32:13there's all this proven stuff and I think you know Swayman's looking for

32:17good money that's gonna age well that you know he's not gonna get screwed when

32:22the cap goes over a hundred mil and he's making you know way less than market

32:27value and he's one of the best goalies in the league I think that's his

32:30perspective I think that's also why he's probably if I had to assume this is not

32:34inside information but he's probably okay with four years where it's like you

32:39know give me these four years I'll prove that I'm worth you know let's just say

32:42it's four years times like 7.2 let's say they move it up a million and then when

32:48the four years are up I'll prove it and then I'll prove myself you know ready

32:52for a lot more money and sort of more accurate to the market I I do think

32:56though like Swayman I get being mindful of the market but at this point in his

33:02career with what he's done so far and like Scott McLaughlin I were talking

33:06about this is he the goalie to set the market no he's not yeah like he could be

33:12years from now he could be in a couple years you do a four or five year we do a

33:16four and five year deal then maybe he is when he's got another Vezna or something

33:20on his resume right or a Vezna yeah I mean that's yeah that's the thing and so

33:24like I like again I think his highest he finished like seventh in Vezna voting

33:28this year yes I had two nice playoff series like and I'm not trying to

33:32diminish it but at the biggest thing is just like is that gonna be the goalie to

33:36set the market is that gonna be the goalie and I you know to get 10 million

33:40no it isn't and it won't be I don't think so I mean you know I like 8 times

33:478 I still like that because I like what he's you know what he's given you I get

33:51the Bruins not wanting to do that but you know four years I don't love it in

33:58the sense that you know you're gonna be doing this again in three years but I

34:03think both sides probably be okay with it because it's not super long term for

34:08the Bruins where if this doesn't work out it's like oh shit we're tied down

34:11for eight years now to this guy and if you're swaying minutes all right well I

34:15can prove myself again with good money and you know set the market in four to

34:20five years yeah exactly like you are operating a little bit of risk however

34:25you want to spin it if it is a four-year deal right for the Bruins like he could

34:29go out his first year and have a 926 a percentage and win the Vesna and lead

34:34you to the conference finals or a cup and you're like well shit or maybe he

34:39regresses a little bit and it's not good news for the Bruins but maybe that adds

34:43reassurance to them as so they want to see how this plays out a little bit more

34:47again I'm with you I would rather sign him long-term and lock him in before the

34:51cap gets really silly like you look at you know it's apples and comparing

34:55apples and bowling balls in terms of like the NBA and everything but that's a

35:00phil leotardo line from the Sopranos I knew him I didn't know that actually and

35:05I'll admit I didn't know it I'm not gonna laugh he did 20 years in the can

35:10also is what phil leotardo did but anyway I digress but no you look at like

35:16the NBA and like they have like guys making you know four years 40 million

35:22and all sudden jumped out and it's like the eighth best guy on your team has

35:25signed a four-year deal for like 91 million dollars crazy not to say that

35:31the the NHL is gonna hit what the NBA did in terms of just that cap exploding

35:35but I'd rather you get in and sign these guys that are your franchise pillars to

35:41long-term deals now as opposed to when things get really crazy in a couple years

35:45so that's my stance but you can see both sides of it if it is like a four or

35:50five year deal I'd be fascinating to see like how much Swainman talks about

35:54whether he wanted long-term whether it's maybe something he's fine banking on

35:58himself will we get the answer who knows but I'd be really curious to see where

36:03kind of the line of thinking is from either the Bruins or Swainman as to how

36:06they hit that point in terms of terms I feel like going into this we're all

36:10talking about the value and the payout not really the term we're all expected

36:14seven eight years but maybe that's not the case my biggest thing is sort of

36:18what you said of like you know the eight years you're I think like giving him

36:24any term that's longer than two years that's over six and a half seven million

36:29dollars is a bet that's you're taking a gamble if you're the Bruins but I also

36:34think it's a it's a somewhat of a smart gamble this is a guy that you developed

36:39your fingerprints are you've created this you've created him he's shown the

36:45sense being up here he's shown you really nothing but good so like again

36:49it's a safe gamble to me I think he's gonna continue to trend up so if you

36:54sign him to a four three three or four year deal he's gonna command a lot more

36:59money down the road whereas it would just be nice if you had him for eight

37:03years at a certain amount that maybe looked a little expensive for the next

37:07two years but got better and then look cheap by the end I get why he wouldn't

37:12want that I get why he would just want to be I want to always make market value

37:15we're pro players get in the bag but from the Bruins perspective I always

37:20thought that's kind of what they would have wanted where it's like you know

37:23what we traded Lena Solmark we're putting all our chips in the middle of

37:26the table for this guy whereas if this is true four years times six point two

37:31five it's sort of like we're gonna put some of our chips in we're gonna keep

37:34some of them now we're not gonna throw everything and we're gonna see what we

37:37got on this next hand and I get from there I mean my I imagine from their

37:42perspective it's like look Jeremy we've we traded Lena Solmark you're the main

37:47guy we're gonna give you a big pay bump you're making more than Lena Solmark

37:50was gonna make for us this year you're making more than five point two five

37:54we're gonna give you six point two five for four years so you have you know some

37:58sort of long-term stability you're still a young guy so I I get that end of it

38:03but again I think the money is gonna end up being more the term it feels like

38:07now I'm gonna be shorter than eight years so I think that's where but I

38:10think the money that's gonna end up being higher you think we hear about

38:15this soon I hope so be nice it'll be Friday at 6 p.m.

38:21yo no doubt no doubt it's gonna be just worst possible time people scrambling

38:29anyways Connor what can the people look forward you from you over Boston calm

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