Sister Wives - Season 19 Episode 5 - The Year of Release - Part 3

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00:00Sacrificed everything and did everything for this family and we've treated her like dirt.
00:05And I'm like, I don't remember ever treating her badly.
00:08I think that Robin definitely has a victim complex.
00:18I mean, to put it bluntly.
00:21And I don't necessarily blame her for that.
00:23I think that different people devise different strategies to keep themselves afloat.
00:31And I feel really bad about the kids.
00:34I miss having a relationship with all of them.
00:38But I also, I don't blame them at all for following along party lines.
00:45My kids aren't really, they're very, there's a lot of anger towards Robin.
00:50They just feel like Robin is always kind of waiting to say, when they say something or do something,
00:57she's going to twist it all around.
00:59That's how they feel about it.
01:01You know what I mean?
01:02They're leery of Robin.
01:03They are.
01:05If she actually believes that we were mistreating her or her children in any way,
01:13when she was constantly getting favorited by dad and we were always working on our relationship with her kids.
01:21If she actually believes that, then there's no chance of me having a relationship with Robin ever again.
01:27Robin always strongly supported my relationships with the whole family.
01:31Robin herself, her last two conversations with Janelle were, was Robin begging Janelle to have a relationship with her.
01:40Janelle's a relationship coward.
01:43I don't know.
01:44I just, I don't have a lot of respect for Robin, so it's hard for me to rationalize some of her actions.
01:51And then maybe, you know, maybe that's the reason that she's like, oh, you, you, you always hated us,
01:55is because she doesn't have our respect anymore.
02:00Because she does **** like that.
02:04I don't know.
02:05It's really, really a mess.
02:06Just feels like it's such a mess.
02:09I don't know what really happened there, but they feel like there was a lot of triangulation, like ego stroking, like manipulation.
02:20I, at this point, I am, the thing I want most is to just have a relationship with Robin's children again.
02:29Like when, I mean, in middle school, Aurora was my favorite person to hang out with.
02:33And in high school, I would always try and hit Dayton up.
02:37But I'm not hopeful for a relationship with Dad and Robin.
02:41Gabriel really is sort of, he's at peace.
02:44He's at peace that his dad is not in his life.
02:46And, you know, that's what I hope for all of my kids.
02:50And I think they're all getting there.
02:52I don't know what his beef is with me.
02:54I think it's because I literally sat him down and had a conversation about it with him.
02:59And he just couldn't handle the fact that I was calm and collected and said, hey, you're hurting this family.
03:07No one else.
03:09And he's like, you're something like, you're not loyal, just like your mother.
03:13And I was like, OK.
03:15It's OK.
03:16You know, I'm good.
03:17He can say what he wants to say.
03:19This conversation never happened.
03:22COVID caused a lot of problems for a lot of people.
03:24All right.
03:25But those people whose relationships had the fortitude to survive, those relationships survived.
03:33It's so interesting because Cody throws around this, like, you're not loyal.
03:36You don't respect me.
03:37And I'm like, I'm thinking that's a two-way street, buddy.
03:39He was never like that before.
03:41He used to not ever use these words.
03:44It was always about love and charity and work together as a team and all this.
03:48And now all of a sudden it's about loyalty and respect and disrespect and not loyal and all these things.
03:53So he's had some sort of a flip.
03:56But how are you doing, mom?
03:57I'm all right.
03:58Everything is really good.
03:59I'm happy.
04:00Really, really happy.
04:01So.
04:02I mean, it's not easy, though.
04:04I stuck it out because you guys were still home and all that.
04:07And then when he no longer was a really great father, it's kind of like I had the ability to go do something different.
04:15So.
04:17Yeah, I'm just so frustrated with Cody.
04:19Look, I've seen this happen.
04:21I have several women I've worked with over the years who divorced and then the father just goes MIA with the kids, you know.
04:29I'm really sorry that Gabriel feels this way.
04:32I have reached out to him multiple times only to get rejected.
04:38But it wasn't from a lack of trying on my part.
04:42I am glad you did seek out counseling on your own, and I thought that was really smart.
04:46I think a lot of us need it.
04:48I do, too.
04:49I actually think we all need it.
04:50So.
04:51I mean, you don't just go through your family crumbling to bits and not need therapy, like.
04:57Yeah.
04:58Yeah.
05:03Look, I know that probably for long-term emotional health, there needs to be some resolution.
05:10And right now, the kids are still processing it a lot.
05:15I would like to see them come to a place of peace.
05:18Maybe not reconciliation, though, because I'm not sure reconciliation is possible.
05:27When I was a young girl, I wanted to be in a plural family, and that's something that was a really big deal to me.
05:33This isn't what I envisioned my life to be.
05:38I don't see my future anymore.
05:41For me now, my prayer was just like, save me and Robin after this.
06:01It's 1 a.m. on the 24th of December.
06:04And this is the first Christmas since I married Cody that I won't have any other family around except for just me and the kids and Cody.
06:24And I can't help but just sit here and look back on everything that's been happening.
06:29And just be completely and utterly heartbroken.
06:39When I was a young girl, I wanted to be in a plural family, and that's something that was a really big deal to me.
06:45And then as I got older, I went through a process of trying to figure out if I still wanted to live this way.
06:54Because when you're young, you kind of do what your parents want you to do, and you kind of feel like you grew up a certain way, so this is how you're going to live.
07:04And then as I got older, I got my testimony of plural marriage.
07:14And when I saw Cody's family, I was so excited to be a part of it.
07:22I liked how they were one family.
07:29This isn't what I envisioned my life to be.
07:36I always wanted to be a part of it.
07:39This isn't what I envisioned my life to be.
07:45I always wanted to live a plural marriage.
07:48I'm in this place where everything that's going on is just, it's taking away all those choices for me.
07:58I'm struggling with my identity and what does it mean, and I don't see my future anymore.
08:10And the hopes and dreams that I had are just disappearing before my eyes.
08:23Robin's holding on to something. I've always said this woman has a spine of concrete and steel.
08:29And she's been holding on to the dream that I sold her on with my family for a lot longer.
08:34But I keep trying to go, let's move on. Let's let this go.
08:38Let's just tell ourselves and believe it, because I believe it now.
08:43It was never meant to be. It was never meant to work.
08:47We had children together. We gave life to these children.
08:50These children can have a great life, just not with a mom and dad that are together.
08:56Larry told Cody she wouldn't do Christmas with us this year because of what's going on between her and Cody.
09:10You know, overall, when I look at what our family has been and looking at what it is now, it is very sad.
09:20And when you find out that your husband just really didn't love you, nor did he with many of the other wives in the family,
09:31it's like, well, I'm sad that it's come to this, but why did it take so long to come to this?
09:37Why did it even start if this isn't something that he was interested in?
09:43I love my kids.
09:49And so I need to make sure that I still have a holiday that's special and sweet.
09:56It just hit me so hard that I just...
10:02Perfect Christmas.
10:05Perfect Christmas.
10:11Because my family's not here.
10:25What we had, where all of us were together, those were some pretty fun Christmases.
10:34You know, we all sat down, they opened their presents one at a time, and we had certain foods for Christmas, and it was just really fun.
10:41And it just feels like now that, especially with the big changes in family dynamic, it's time to do something a little bit different.
10:49It's time to create some new traditions and some new things to have fun with and some new ways to celebrate
10:56that have nothing to do with how things used to be and everything to do with how you want them to be.
11:05I love you.
11:07For me now, my prayer was just like, save me and Robin.
11:12I have this wonderful relationship with her.
11:15The pain of this experience has caused much trouble in our own relationship.
11:20It's been a real struggle, so I hope and pray that we just manage it, that we save our marriage, that we save us,
11:29that we save the special that we started out with after this horrible experience of breaking up.
11:39I'm just so heartbroken.
11:44The only thing that keeps my head above water, the only thing that keeps my head above water now is just prayers.
12:00I just had to take a moment and feel it and process so I can get up tomorrow, put on a happy face, and make it beautiful and make it special.
12:17And I owe that to my kids.
12:21And I know that Cody's going to struggle, and I just know what I expect my life to be, and I don't know how to let it go.
12:38Let's take a picture of all of you.
12:41Yay, yay, yay!
12:43Merry Christmas!
12:45Woo!
12:52Next time on Sister Wives.
12:54There's absolutely no way, shape, or form I would choose to spend Christmas with them.
12:59We're done.
13:02I'm 50. I know what I want. I know what I had before.
13:05So you think this is long-term?
13:07Yes. We have said the magical words to each other. He did say it first. I said it right after that.
13:13So I'm excited to where this is going to be going to.
13:17You know what really sucks? It's not divorce that sucks, it's marrying the wrong person.
13:23What sucks is marrying the wrong person and not having the decency to tell her until 32 years later.
13:31I wish I wouldn't have ever married her.

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