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00:00This program is brought to you by DAREGA KAITON NEN, the book that changed the world in two days.
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00:22Oh, that sounds good.
00:24Let me ask you something.
00:26What is it?
00:27You are doing it, right?
00:29No, I'm not.
00:30It's lit up.
00:31It's lit up.
00:32There's a lot of resistance.
00:34It's huge.
00:35It's huge.
00:36What is this?
00:37It's amazing.
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00:41We have 800 related products.
00:45Do you have books?
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00:51We have books and, of course, tobacco labels.
00:55Tobacco from all over the world.
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01:00According to the customer's wishes, he gives advice on the tobacco that suits him.
01:05He also holds a tobacco experience meeting.
01:09I smoke a lot, but my hair is getting thinner.
01:15Does it matter?
01:17It doesn't matter.
01:18Stop looking at the manager.
01:20When I smoke up to 65, I think,
01:23I see.
01:24There's a lot of tobacco left.
01:27I can make a lot of things with that tobacco.
01:30No, I don't smoke up to 65.
01:33I don't smoke up to 65.
01:35This week's topic is...
01:37The back side of the inspection report.
01:40He used to be a journalist.
01:42Is it a field?
01:45In terms of terminology.
01:48The author of the inspection report is a journalist.
01:51He wrote an article about the incident he was in charge of from a journalist's point of view.
01:57He's been doing it for decades.
02:00This is going to be fun.
02:04I used to be a journalist for the inspection report.
02:08Now, I'm doing it for free like a YouTuber.
02:14I'm Gentaro Saibusa.
02:16Nice to meet you.
02:18You're not a journalist anymore?
02:20I'm not a journalist anymore.
02:22What?
02:23Why?
02:24Did you write a lot of weird articles?
02:26There are a few things that come to mind.
02:29If there are, it doesn't matter.
02:31I've heard about it.
02:33If I talk about it, it'll be a long story.
02:36What do you mean by that?
02:38I made a mistake when I was trying to get rid of a student.
02:43Apologize, correct, and delete.
02:46It's all about being cheeky.
02:50It's a field of rampage.
02:52This is the timing.
02:54There's a list of lists.
02:58I put it on the top of the first page.
03:00First of all, this guy.
03:02The first thing that comes to mind is Mr. Saibusa.
03:07My boss came to me and said,
03:09You're on the top of the first page.
03:12I said it in a voice that everyone could hear.
03:14I have to quit.
03:16I want to quit without feeling guilty.
03:19It's okay to talk so brightly.
03:23How old were you when you got the list?
03:25I was 51 years old.
03:27What about your family?
03:28My wife worked and I was completely unemployed.
03:32It lasted about three years.
03:35You've had a hard time.
03:37Last year, I got the list.
03:39I had a backpack, so I was perfect.
03:42It's nostalgic.
03:44It's our vitality.
03:46In the first half of my 20s.
03:48I feel relieved for about a month.
03:50What was your job at that time?
03:52Is it the Ministry of Defense?
03:54The Ministry of Defense?
03:56You mean the Self-Defense Force?
03:57Yes.
03:59I made a mistake in one place.
04:01Mr. Saki, you have a sense of justice, don't you?
04:04No, no, no.
04:05You're a bastard.
04:07You're too bad at it.
04:09Do you think this is the right thing to do?
04:11No, no, no.
04:12I don't think it's wrong.
04:14You don't think it's wrong now?
04:16I don't think it's wrong.
04:17But in the Sankei Shimbun,
04:19I don't think I have to apologize.
04:21The phone rang and I got a call.
04:24I don't know if it's organized.
04:26I see.
04:27I can't help it.
04:29When you go to the Ministry of Defense,
04:31you go to get information, don't you?
04:33Where do you wait?
04:34Is there such a place?
04:35Is there a press club?
04:38It's everywhere.
04:39Is it in the National Assembly?
04:41Yes, it is.
04:42Is it in the Metropolitan Police Department?
04:43Yes, it is.
04:44Do you work there?
04:45I work in the Metropolitan Police Department.
04:47Oh, I see.
04:48So it's a direct job.
04:49There are a lot of press clubs in the Metropolitan Police Department.
04:52There are three in the Metropolitan Police Department.
04:54The first one is the Seven Societies of the Metropolitan Police Department.
04:57The second one is the Metropolitan Police Department Press Club.
04:59The third one is the News Press Club.
05:01The Ministry of Justice is the News Press Club.
05:02The Seven Societies is an old company.
05:04Asahi Mainichi Yomiuri,
05:06Kyodo Tsuushin,
05:08and Tokyo Shimbun.
05:09There's another one.
05:11There's a newspaper company.
05:13NHK, Jiji Tsuushin, Sankei Shimbun,
05:15Bunka Housou, and Nippon Housou
05:17are in the Metropolitan Police Department Press Club.
05:19So there are a lot of people like that in the space.
05:23What do you do first?
05:25In the case of the Metropolitan Police Department,
05:27there's a speaker.
05:29When there's an incident,
05:31the outline of the incident comes out.
05:35Everyone goes there.
05:38It's like a start signal.
05:40Ready, go!
05:42Basically, the Metropolitan Police Department and the Osaka Prefecture are very fast.
05:46I don't want to be caught,
05:48so it takes about 40 to 50 minutes.
05:50Oh, I see.
05:52Is it impossible to fill 40 to 50 minutes a day?
05:57It's impossible.
05:58If you go to the local area,
06:00you can go after 8 hours,
06:02or after 6 hours.
06:04After the fire has gone out,
06:06you can go to the scene of the fire.
06:10I see.
06:11Then the broadcast will be broadcast.
06:13NHK and other companies are in the same space.
06:16Everyone goes there first.
06:18That's right.
06:21Do you go there and take pictures?
06:26The photographer takes pictures.
06:28If it's a local area, I take pictures myself.
06:30Then I go around the neighborhood.
06:32Rather than that kind of work,
06:35I stand near the police station late at night
06:39and wait for them to come back.
06:41That's better.
06:42What do you ask for?
06:44If there was a murder case,
06:46what if I broke the stomach of the victim?
06:49Do you teach them?
06:51No, I don't.
06:52Then why do you stand there?
06:54There are about 10 people,
06:56and one of them is a detective
06:58who will be with me for the rest of my life.
07:01Do you go to drink with him?
07:03We get along very well.
07:05Most people don't talk at all.
07:07They don't talk at all.
07:08It's like talking to Ishikuro.
07:10It's like talking to Ishikuro.
07:11It's like talking to Ishikuro.
07:13When I say,
07:14when I say,
07:15they ignore me.
07:17There are many reporters in Japan,
07:19so they are used to the police.
07:22They say,
07:23they are here again.
07:25So,
07:26I've grabbed a tie and said,
07:28so I've grabbed a tie and said,
07:29don't mess with me.
07:31Don't mess with me.
07:32That's persistent.
07:33Do you go to drink with him?
07:35I can't work without going to drink with him.
07:37I see.
07:38But do you have a friend
07:39who listens to you?
07:41When I meet him,
07:43I feel like I can get along with him.
07:46It's a matter of person to person.
07:47It's youth.
07:49That's very true.
07:51But,
07:52but you write about it.
07:54You write an article about it.
07:55So,
07:56so,
07:57so,
07:58so,
07:59so,
08:00so,
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08:39so,
08:40so,
08:41so,
08:42so,
08:43Yes, but when I didn't have anything to do, I was pretty much a my-phone-papa.
08:48Oh, you were.
08:50You didn't have a family.
08:52No, no.
08:53It was a work balance.
08:55Yes, yes, yes.
08:56But you didn't have time for anything, right?
08:58Well, that's true.
08:59Right?
09:00And you also had to pay for the interviews, right?
09:03Yes.
09:04Did you have to pay for that?
09:05Like, this is the only thing I can use for this case.
09:07No, no, no.
09:08I didn't have to do that.
09:09You didn't have to use it?
09:11No.
09:12I think the biggest reason why it costs money is because it's not a big deal in the
09:15countryside, but in Tokyo and Osaka, you don't sleep enough, and if you drive by yourself,
09:19it's dangerous.
09:20So that's why cars are built.
09:22It's not like they're built to be taken over by the special authority.
09:25What?
09:26There are no drivers.
09:27So, drivers get stuck?
09:28Yes.
09:29What?
09:30In the newspaper?
09:31Yes.
09:32I've never heard of that.
09:33I've never heard of that.
09:34I've never heard of that.
09:35I've never heard of that.
09:36I'm the type of person who gets it all wrong.
09:37I used to get it all wrong when I was young.
09:38I thought I didn't have a driver.
09:40I thought I didn't have a driver.
09:41It doesn't mean that.
09:43In general, if you sleep, it's dangerous.
09:48In Tokyo and Osaka, it's dangerous.
09:51I see.
09:52So, you're not like, you drive by yourself.
09:55I drive all the time except for Tokyo and Osaka.
09:58But in Tokyo and Osaka, the drivers...
09:59I can only sleep for about three or four hours.
10:02I see.
10:03How about that?
10:04To give money to the information office?
10:05That's a self-income.
10:06That's...
10:07What about that?
10:08If you let me eat it, I'll get a receipt.
10:12It's a cash prize.
10:13In the case of cash,
10:15Well, yes, there are cases like that.
10:17What's it like?
10:19Basically, I didn't give much money.
10:23You got along?
10:24It wasn't like a drama.
10:28Of course there are moments when you feel like you've done it.
10:31It's just a whim, but I don't think other reporters know.
10:37I wonder what it is.
10:38I think I'm the only one who doesn't know.
10:41When I heard it, I think I was rewarded for my hard work.
10:45But even so, it's a job that bothers a lot of people.
10:51People who don't like it don't like it.
10:53After all, small children are gone.
10:56For example, I used to take pictures of my face.
11:01When I had a child, it was a little painful.
11:07Sometimes I couldn't be a reporter because I was crying in front of my body.
11:13I feel sorry for him even if I remember it now.
11:23Basically, the police and the good and bad don't come out at once.
11:27Like I said earlier.
11:28The police go first.
11:30It's not normal for a newspaper to reach the culprit first like a drama.
11:36But that's the only thing that happens.
11:41For example, if the police say it's not an incident, it's an accident, it's a suicide.
11:47I've heard that twice.
11:52Really?
11:54When I was in Tochigi Prefecture, I went to a hot spring in the mountains.
12:01When there was still snow, a high school student in Tokyo was found dead in a snowstorm.
12:10At that time, I called the police station and asked them what was going on.
12:16They said there was no possibility of an incident.
12:19On the other side of the bridge from Zoukibayashi, there were three houses.
12:24It was only about 50 meters away.
12:26So if it was an accident, it would be right next to the house in the mountains.
12:33But if he died by himself, how could he die?
12:38I thought it was strange that the child was wearing clothes.
12:44For example, if you tighten your neck with your arm, there are times when there is no trace left.
12:52Even if I ask the police, I can't get much help, so I can't help it if I go by myself.
12:57Then, when I rang the doorbell at the first house, a kind-looking old lady with a bent back came out.
13:03I said, I didn't see this girl, but I saw her.
13:08At that time, she was alone.
13:10She was with a man.
13:12I was surprised.
13:14I asked her if she saw her again.
13:17She said she didn't see her.
13:18I asked her where the man went.
13:20She said he walked alone and went to the hot spring town.
13:23I was surprised.
13:25That's a great scoop.
13:28At that time, I asked the old lady if the police came.
13:32She said they wouldn't come.
13:35I thought it was a slip-up.
13:37A slip-up is a case, not a case.
13:42Sometimes it happens.
13:45I thought it was a slip-up.
13:47I wrote down the whereabouts of the man who disappeared.
13:51The head of the investigation team at the time and a reporter from a newspaper were talking about me.
14:00They said it was clearly less than a wide shot.
14:03I told them to clean up the accident.
14:06I told them to clean up the accident.
14:09I was naive.
14:11I told them to start over from the beginning.
14:14Why did you say that?
14:16I was furious.
14:18After that, the suspect was caught.
14:23He was running away from the police station.
14:28He was running away from the police station.
14:30I thought he was dead.
14:33I called her out.
14:35I went to Tochigi.
14:37I thought he was dead.
14:40I thought he was dead.
14:43I ran away.
14:45I told the deputy director of the Kasai Police Department that Tochigi was not a case.
14:54I was surprised.
14:56I was surprised.
14:59I was happy.
15:02It was more than a wide shot.
15:05It was more than a wide shot.
15:09If you hadn't investigated him, he might have been solved by accident.
15:13If you hadn't investigated him, he might have been solved by accident.
15:14From then on, did you complain to the police?
15:19I didn't want to complain to the police.
15:25I was very generous.
15:28You are very generous.
15:30I have many experiences.
15:34I have many experiences.
15:36That's great.
15:39The next day.
15:42The next day.
15:45I heard that he was working in a casino at the embassy of a certain country.
15:49I heard that he was working in a casino at the embassy of a certain country.
15:53Suddenly a security guard in the embassy asked me to join his casinology program.
15:59Suddenly a security guard in the embassy asked me to join his casinology program.
16:05We decided to stay at the embassy of the other country.
16:08I was like, what the hell are you doing?
16:10We couldn't get in.
16:12We were in trouble because it was a different embassy.
16:14So I wrote it down.
16:16I was like, what do you think?
16:18They were like, is that okay?
16:20So I was like, write it down.
16:22So I wrote it down.
16:24And they did come.
16:26Some celebrities were there too.
16:28So I was like, this is for sure.
16:30So I wrote it down.
16:32And then,
16:34I got a call.
16:36I was like, please come.
16:38It was an embassy.
16:40So I opened the door.
16:42And there was no one.
16:44So I was like, what are you going to do?
16:46And there was a lawyer
16:48and an executive director
16:50of the Japan XX Association
16:52and two other people.
16:54And there was an embassy lady.
16:56And she was crying.
16:58She was like, how can I face my husband?
17:00I was like, oh my god.
17:02I can't believe I lied to a newspaper.
17:04So you were acting.
17:06I was like, oh my god.
17:08Was she alone?
17:10Yes, she was alone.
17:12I was like, oh my god,
17:14how can I face my husband?
17:16And then,
17:18I went to the chief of security.
17:20And I talked to him.
17:22And he told me this.
17:24I was like, oh my god.
17:26So I opened the drawer.
17:28And I was like,
17:30this is the picture
17:32that the chief of security
17:34is taking.
17:36What kind of surprise is that?
17:38So I was taking the picture.
17:40And I was like, can I borrow it?
17:42And he was like,
17:44is this the picture of the chief of security?
17:46What kind of
17:48prank is this?
17:50Can I borrow it?
17:52Yes, yes.
17:54So he said,
17:56you can do whatever you want with it.
17:58So I went to him again.
18:00And I told him that I have something to tell him.
18:02And I told him that I can't apologize to him.
18:04Actually, I didn't come here today.
18:06But the cameraman
18:08was taking the picture
18:10of you and you
18:12taking the bagaradai
18:14out of the stairs
18:16at 7.56 am.
18:18No way.
18:20Everyone knows that.
18:22So if you're going to
18:24take back
18:26what you said to me,
18:28I'll make you pay for it.
18:30That's funny.
18:32The lawyer and the chief of security
18:34were like,
18:36we were just trying to make it up to you.
18:38Until the day before,
18:40we were like,
18:42this is a foreign matter.
18:44How are you going to take responsibility?
18:46His wife was crying.
18:48His wife was crying,
18:50and his wife was like this.
18:52But it can't be helped.
18:54So I said,
18:56let's call it a day.
18:58I put my hand in his pocket
19:00and shook it.
19:02I was like,
19:04it's not a joke.
19:06I was like,
19:08it's not a joke.
19:10I turned my back
19:12because I thought
19:14he couldn't see me.
19:20The next day,
19:22I went to the house of the chief of security
19:24and he was like,
19:26you're an idiot.
19:28The chief of security
19:30had a plan.
19:32If it was Asahi or Yomiuri,
19:34he wouldn't write it because he was tall.
19:36But he was an idiot.
19:38He said,
19:40I can write it if you talk to him.
19:42I was like,
19:44what?
19:46I was scared.
19:48I'd like to hear
19:50your side of the story.
19:52He's amazing.
19:54The chief of security
19:56is amazing.
19:58It's funny.
20:04What do you want to tell us
20:06in this book?
20:08I think it's a little different
20:10from the editor's intention.
20:12Basically,
20:14I was trying to explain
20:16the meaning of the sword
20:18and the meaning of security.
20:20That's what I was trying to say.
20:22In fact,
20:24the editor
20:26was trying to
20:28explain the meaning of the sword
20:30and the meaning of security.
20:32But he kept talking about himself.
20:36I couldn't hear what the editor was saying.
20:40I'm sorry.
20:46I'll start.
20:48The editor said
20:50it's the other side of the case.
20:52But I don't think so.
20:54I think it's the other side
20:56of a distra YouTuber.
20:58He only wrote about himself.
21:00I can't say anything else.
21:04What do you think?
21:06This book
21:08probably has some mistakes.
21:10Again?
21:12He's a reporter.
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