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00:00We are at the midway point officially of this 2024 NFL regular season nine weeks in the books nine more weeks to go
00:0818 week regular season see how that happens and at the end of the opening half
00:13We look at where the odds stand currently as we are about to embark on the second half from where they were on
00:19Opening night in the preseason the Kansas City Chiefs enter the year as the favorites to win a third consecutive
00:25consecutive Super Bowl championship
00:27No team in NFL history has ever done that one three
00:31Consecutive Lombardi's or even played in the game for a third consecutive year plus
00:36550 is the Chiefs remain the only undefeated team in the NFL is now shorter by nearly two bucks at plus
00:43380 the Detroit Lions though Joe might be the best team in the NFL. They are seven and one
00:49They have covered in all seven victories a twelve to one price for Detroit has been slashed in half and then take off
00:55Another dollar at five to one the Ravens number growing shorter the Bills price
01:00Shorter by half as well
01:02The Niners have seen the number grow from six to one to ten to one in an uneasy start to this season
01:08San Francisco just an even five hundred four and four countless injuries on the offensive side of the football
01:16Philadelphia's price was probably longer the opening month of the year
01:19But after a four-game win streak for the Birds now back down by a buck in the Green Bay Packers at
01:2618 to 1 before the year got started at on two dollars
01:2920 to 1 Green Bay did not look great at home and Jordan Love has dealt with a variety of short-term
01:35Injuries this season and yet the pack still six and three will look elsewhere around the odds
01:40But that the biggest movement Joe we have seen for those Super Bowl contenders this season
01:46Yeah, and it's always interesting Ben right at this point because we start to you look at the market and you start to go
01:54Okay
01:54Where are people over reacting to what they just saw right recency bias is a pretty is a pretty real thing here
02:02Especially you're coming out of a week where favorites went what 13 and one straight up and 10 and four against the number the public
02:09Had a field day. So, you know what happens man is the public all of a sudden starts thinking while we got this
02:15So, why don't we why don't we just sprinkle a little something here on Kansas City to win it all or Buffalo to win it all?
02:21They won't look anywhere near down the border on that other column
02:25then that second column to think anybody could have the audacity to actually
02:30make a run at the at the Super Bowl, but the reality is
02:35every team on that list still has a shot right now been at winning a Super Bowl here and
02:41Certainly ain't running to the window to lay single digits with anybody right now
02:46Yeah, so Joe you mentioned how good favorites have been here as of late
02:50It was the year of the underdog in the opening month those historic trends of underdogs of five and a half points or greater
02:56Not just covering numbers and keeping it close, but winning outright NFL favorites in the 15 games we had in week 9
03:0414 and 1
03:05Straight up. This is just the third week in the last decade and a half the last 15 years of NFL football
03:12favorites have won
03:1314 times or more with only a single loss in the last five weeks
03:20Favorites are now 46 27 and 1 ATS. It's a cover percentage north of
03:2763 percent is that going to be the trend in the tail of the season in the second half?
03:33We shall agree. So Joe as you mentioned, maybe it's not worth running to the window on any of those short numbers
03:40Certainly, we can justify
03:42Kansas City as that short favorite less than four bucks at plus 380 to win a third consecutive Super Bowl despite
03:49No team even playing in three straight Super Bowls eight previous back-to-back
03:55Super Bowl champions looking for that third straight
03:58Nobody has ever gone to a third consecutive big game Joe the Lions have never played in a Super Bowl in
04:05franchise
04:06History, but this is a historic season and a historic two years in the Motor City last year
04:13first divisional crown in three decades first playoff win and NFC championship game appearance in
04:1932 years the Lions have won an NFL championship
04:24Back before the Super Bowl era and merger in
04:281957 but never the big one never the Lombardi trophy Joe. Do you believe that Detroit? Oh, we just lost Joe and Harry
04:35We'll get our Mary back here in John. Yes
04:37I mean just mess I didn't mean to offend with the Lions question if you are not buying in on Detroit
04:43But Joe we have a point here over the last few weeks the last few days
04:48That despite Kansas City being the lone undefeated team at the end of the opening half
04:53Perhaps the Lions are the best team in the NFL. What say you I?
04:59Well, how do you argue with it man? I mean all they seem to do is just go out and bulldoze people
05:04I do think the biggest question with the Lions was the pass rush outside of Hutch's
05:09I don't think anybody has two sacks on that team. So going out and getting Z'Darrius Smith, I think will help
05:16But that's the only question you have offensively. This is a Super Bowl team. This is Super Bowl caliber team
05:23Defensively is gonna be the big question and will they be able to Ben and this is a big F
05:29Can they get home field advantage throughout the playoffs or do they have to go outside in?
05:34January in order to make a run at this that's a that's there's a big distinction between those two things
05:41No doubt about it Joe yesterday when the NFC odds were available
05:44Detroit was minus 115 by the way to earn that number one overall seed not only the opening by
05:50But home field the entirety of the way to a presumptive
05:55Super Bowl birth Rene when you look at the AFC the Ravens and the bills are the two other teams at a plus
06:03850 price or shorter
06:04In fact, there are four teams of course shorter than a ten to one number three of the four from the AFC
06:10We know the Chiefs are going to be tested by the Ravens who look really good and the Buffalo Bills who look really good
06:17But both of those clubs have postseason questions or Kansas City does not could this be the year that either the flock or the bills?
06:25Change that playoff narrative surrounding their franchise
06:28Well lucky for us man. We're gonna get to see a preview of those. Are we not here?
06:33I believe we said Kansas City's got Buffalo coming up here, which is going to be interesting in Buffalo
06:40Yeah, there is a lot still to be determined and unfortunately for the AFC all those teams you just mentioned there Kansas City
06:48the bills the
06:50Ravens they are going to have to devour one another on their way to representing the AFC
06:57Not easy to do. I do think the Lions if they're the best team in the NFC
07:03Yeah, we'll keep an eye on the 49ers because they are getting McCaffrey back
07:07But who knows what version of him you're getting?
07:10But who's going to make a run at the Lions?
07:12I mean, I think the Lions with that schedule of indoor games
07:16Continuing could very well have the easier path and what the AFC and those teams have to do
07:22So just to note week 11 now two weeks away
07:25Buffalo will host Kansas City the game is probably going to be a pick'em who wins outright will KC still be unbeaten
07:33More than likely into that matchup Buffalo is one since the start of
07:372021 NFL season all three regular season meetings against Kansas City all three coming in arrowhead
07:43The Chiefs of course have had the last laugh in the postseason
07:47They have bounced the Buffalo Bills three in the last four years in the AFC
07:52postseason Buffalo has been bounced by the division around in the last three years as
07:57Well, Joe, let's go to the NFC, right we're talking about teams with short prices only one team has a three-digit number
08:05San Francisco the short favorites to win the NFC title before the year got underway
08:09We understand why has dealt with a slew of offensive injuries and the Niners have not looked good
08:15They're four and four straight up this year booked as a favorite in every single game
08:20But the Niners did win their final game entering their bye week on the other side of the by
08:25Starting here in the second half and week 10 Christian McCaffrey supposed to make his season
08:31Debut would now be a time you would be interested in buying back into the 49ers at that longer 10 to 1 number
08:40Yeah, I mean he's off the IR back scheduled to play
08:44Will there be a setback then it's something you got to worry about but listen if I'm Kyle Shanahan
08:50I'm basically treaded water in order to be able to get him back
08:54He is that big a difference maker been he is legit worth a field goal on
08:59Anybody's power ratings when you're looking at it when he's in that lineup. They're a different team
09:04He's a difference maker, which makes the 49ers very dangerous if he's healthy
09:09The Niners a six-and-a-half point road favorite in Tampa on Sunday taking on the Buccaneers
09:15It is NFL trade deadline day. We've already seen some move
09:19So we just showed you the Super Bowl odds where things were when the season started now at the midway point of this
09:252024 NFL season on deadline day that is trade deadline day around the National Football League Joe the last few years
09:33The NFL trade deadline has ramped up in its intensity
09:37It's not quite what we see during Major League Baseball in a long summer of contenders
09:42Try to make those final moves for their October roster. It's not quite the NBA's trade deadline day either
09:49but the NFL is
09:51Intriguing this year and we have already seen one deal done
09:54It's a big one for one of those Super Bowl contenders that has seen the most movement the Detroit Lions
10:00Who were 12 to 1 before the year now 5 to 1 the NFC championship?
10:04Favorites the second best price to win Super Bowl 59 only behind, Kansas City
10:09Trying to get to the big game for the first time in franchise history
10:13Making a big move on this Tuesday
10:17Acquiring Z'Darrius Smith from the Cleveland Browns and not much given up Z'Darrius Smith at a
10:232026 seventh rounder headed to the Motor City for a 2025 fifth round pick in
10:292026 sixth round pick one of the reasons Joe this was so critical for Detroit
10:35of course the unfortunate loss of the very talented third year edge rusher one of the more promising young defensive players and
10:42Even proven defensive players in the NFL already at this stage of his career
10:46Aiden Hutchinson who was out for the remainder of this season. So the Lions get some reinforcements
10:52They add Z'Darrius Smith should make an impact for Detroit on that defensive side of the ball
10:58Yeah, and it was funny because I think he even talked about it a couple of weeks ago when it was rumored that he'd be
11:04On the you know, the trade block there come this time and he had mentioned Detroit because he would love
11:11you know to get to play Green Bay and the Vikings twice a year two teams that he was a
11:16Member of that he knows very well that he would love an opportunity and he's gonna get obviously that opportunity to play them
11:24once again, but
11:26Detroit absolutely had to do something here to increase this pass rush. They have nobody
11:33On the team right now who is recorded more than two and a half sacks through the first eight games of the season Ben
11:39They they had to do something and I think for the price
11:43You got a pretty reliable guy here. That should be able to help everyone else here at least get to the quarterback
11:49Yeah, no doubt about it. Joseph area Smith this year in nine games with the Browns has recorded five sacks
11:55This trade was rumored early in the weekend like Saturday before the Sunday slate
12:01Of course
12:01you're gonna see how the game plays out for the Browns not that they're going to make a run to the postseason this year with
12:07That backup quarterback in Jameis Winston
12:09But you kind of let the weekend play out and then ahead of the deadline that deal is now done
12:15It's an area Smith who knows the NFC North very well Joe
12:19Like you mentioned spent three years in Green Bay after the first four of his career in
12:24Baltimore three-time Pro Bowler in his time in the NFC North in his four total years in the division three with the pack
12:32One with the Vikings last year his first full season in Cleveland played 16 games only five and a half sacks
12:39But Joe in his fully healthy years with Green Bay and Minnesota three
12:44He recorded double-digit sacks each and every one of those seasons
12:48Earning Pro Bowl accolades each and every one of those three NFL years. So a big move for
12:56Dallas where if there are questions about the Lions
12:59Perhaps it's that pass defense last year a lead against the run not great defending the pass
13:04It's not just your secondary that is responsible for batting down balls or picking things off or causing
13:11Incompletions it is that pass rush. It is a huge acquisition for Detroit
13:16Yeah, I mean, it's exactly what they needed to do. They're all in Ben on this season and we know this
13:23Offensively, there's not a lot of question marks with this Lions team Ben Johnson
13:29Just made Matt LaFleur look absolutely stupid this past week
13:34And we know the biggest question was always going to be defensively
13:38Not so much if Hutchinson was still healthy, by the way, they'd be clearly the favorite here
13:44I think to win it all but I think so Darius Smith for what was available and what you could get for him
13:50I think the Lions continue to nail it then in the offseason and in season with some of these acquisitions
13:58You got to love the direction they're heading
14:00Huge Sunday night football game in Houston to end out the week 10 Sunday slate the Texans take on the Lions
14:08Detroit a three-point road
14:10Favorite Detroit has been a favorite in seven of eight games this year. The only time in underdog
14:16They won outright against the Vikings as a very short dog in a crucial divisional duel
14:22Of course Detroit is 7 and 1 covering in all seven games
14:2644 and 18 is the ATS record with Dan Campbell as the head coach since the start of
14:332021 they are the only team in the NFL covering in more than 61 percent of games. It is a
14:4071 percent
14:42Cover percentage what a hit rate indeed Joe some potential other guys on the training block on this
14:49Tuesday on deadline day. We expect the Saints to be sellers. They sold their head coach fired Dennis Allen
14:57Yesterday could more Sean Lattimore or chase young be on the move. The Giants have had a great pass rush
15:03In fact, they have the most sacks this year Aziz. Oh, Jalari might he be traded Mike Williams his future in New York
15:11Doesn't seem to be there for the Jets
15:12Could the Panthers move on from that veteran presence at the wide receiver spot?
15:17Adam Phelan another trade already happening the Bengals acquiring the man known as juice
15:22Khalil Herbert from the Chicago Bears kind of lost in the shuffle of the backfield after the acquisition of DeAndre Swift and the bigger back
15:30Of Roshan Johnson Khalil Herbert now on his way to Cincinnati
15:34Yeah, I mean Zach Moss, obviously that they're serious concerns about the neck injury there
15:39This will help the Bengals. They'll get more a very capable runner
15:44Who is shown over his a couple of years here that he can carry the ball not to mention you can catch the ball out
15:50Of the backfield. So another good sensible pickup by Cincinnati here early in this trade deadline
15:58Yeah, very much. So for the Bengals who of course have very limited margin of error that includes a huge
16:06Thursday night game just two days away that we will look at in just a moment
16:11I wonder how much the Saints sell right there on a seven game skid after an impressive 2-0 start
16:18They are 2-7. The defense was awful with Dennis Allen who was supposed to be that defensive guy Marshawn Lattimore
16:26He has been rumored to Kansas City doesn't seem to be overwhelming momentum that he has moved today on deadline day
16:33But of course we will follow throughout this Tuesday
16:38We'll talk Thursday night football
16:40AMC North Rivalry next a huge Thursday night football game to kick off the second half of this NFL season
16:47Joe by the time we reach the second half of the NFL season our Thursday night intrigue tends to dwindle not in week
16:56Number 10 short week for sure
16:58but a huge
16:59divisional duel between the Ravens and the Bengals in
17:03Baltimore two nights away in the Charm City the flock booked as a six and a half point home favorite total
17:1052 and a half the Bengals, of course started winless. Oh and three they have won four of their last six
17:18Games that is good for Cincinnati, but the margin of error still is not really there
17:25Joe elsewhere for the Baltimore Ravens they started oh and two
17:29They of course have been great since that point winners of six of their last seven
17:34Are you surprised by the spread the six and a half field justified?
17:38Or would you expect the number to be a little bit tighter entering this monumental divisional duel on Thursday?
17:45Well, I'm shocked then given the fact that Lamar Jackson is 718 and one that's 28%
17:52Against the number as a home favorite under 10 points
17:55so this is not historically been a great spot to back Lamar Jackson at this kind of
18:02Price here and we all know burrow as an underdog of three or more points man
18:0816 and 3 against the number including the playoffs the biggest problem for Baltimore's defense has been
18:17Defending the pass and guess what?
18:20There is nobody playing better right now than Joe Burrow and the Bengals
18:23Offensively and throwing the ball. I mean they started oh and three been on the season
18:28They're now four and five and this is this game is their season
18:32Let's be reasonable because from here on out
18:34I don't see how they won't be a favorite in every game the rest of the way the Cincinnati Bengals if they win this game
18:41They've got a really good shot of rebounding and making the playoffs and then anything can happen
18:47The Ravens off a great win, but let's be realistic here
18:52What offensive pushback did they get from Denver? The answer is none. This is a different animal in a huge game, Ben
18:59so the Ravens
19:00of course who won five straight now six of their last seven booked as a favorite and every one of
19:07Those games but Joe up until Sunday in those five wins where they had covered in
19:14Everyone or at least pushed on the number
19:16They were five oh and one against the spread as a favorite of six and a half points or greater
19:21This will now be the fifth time this year for Baltimore. They had lost two outright
19:26They had pushed against the commanders laying a touchdown at close and last week
19:31Of course was the first true cover as they blew out the Broncos as a nine and a half point favorite winning
19:3841 to 10 so as a six and a half point favorite or greater this year
19:42They are two or they are one two and one against the spread with two outright losses
19:49The Bengals trying to do exactly that Cincinnati an underdog only twice this year week number two against Kansas City
19:56And then earlier in the year against Baltimore
19:59They were catching two and a half at home against the Ravens lost that game by three
20:05So barely not covering and lost the game to Kansas City by a point with some questionable calls late
20:11They did cover that game as a five and a half six and a half point underdog one and one against the number and Joe you
20:17Highlighted how good Joe Burrow has been when booked as an underdog
20:21So I would lay this or actually take the six and a half
20:24Sorry rather with the Bengals in this spot, but Joe for Cincinnati
20:29It's not just keeping this game close and winning a tough one short week on the road by a field goal or less
20:36It's winning this game outright
20:38so now we look at the odds and where things stand Baltimore does not have the best record in the division that is still the
20:45Steelers at six and to the Ravens a half game back, but they are the favorites to win the AFC North
20:51They had that second best price to win the AFC championship
20:54This game is huge for Cincinnati for any of those numbers sure, but it's not really about the divisional chase for the Bengals
21:01It's that playoff price for
21:04Cincy and the number still remains
21:06minus
21:07114 a minus money price for a team that started oh and three and it's still
21:14500 below 500 rather to get to the postseason they went on Thursday in
21:20Baltimore that number changes drastically and in a positive way
21:24Yeah, and listen at this point
21:27Just go ahead and bet the Bengals on the money line for this game because if they don't win this game
21:33They're not making the playoffs man
21:35That's as easy as as far as I'm concerned that is their season
21:39Could end on Thursday night if they don't win this game outright
21:42If they fall to four and six the number will take a hit
21:45There is no doubt about it because how little wiggle room there is for Cincinnati, but Joe to your point
21:51They're probably going to be favored in their final seven games. They win six or seven or all seven
21:56There's a lot of life for a double-digit win Cincinnati team our three our third and final event
22:02Live right here on the early line. It is our third and final hour on this
22:08Tuesday we welcome you back to the show. He is Joe Ranieri
22:11I am Ben Stevens so much to dive into here on this Tuesday the end of the opening half of this NFL regular
22:18Season and it's trade deadline day in the National Football League and then from the NFL and the pro ranked show
22:24To college football for the first time in the 12 team era of the college football
22:29Playoff the CFP selection committee from Grapevine, Texas tonight will deliver their inaugural rankings in the 12 team
22:37Era, how are they viewing? What has been a
22:41wonderful college football season
22:44generational for some
22:45Parity everywhere around the sport it will be important
22:49Not just the top for the top six
22:52But everybody in the top 25 how it works for a group of five schools
22:56Where are teams like Boise State and Tulane perhaps ranked as things move up and down?
23:03What are we going to see with some of the undefeated teams in the country like BYU and Indiana?
23:09There is so much to dive through will present what the betting odds are saying
23:13About the 12 team college football playoff how a bracket might look at the season were to end today
23:20So much to get into here in this third and final hour
23:24And of course, we'll talk some college basketball at the end of it as well
23:28Joe should be a great final hour here on the early line
23:32Yeah, and yep, I'm looking forward to hearing what this committee or whatever you want to call it these days
23:39Comes up with for college football. I don't think there'll be a whole lot of
23:43Animosity at the top of those lists, but as we get closer
23:48To bowl season it's gonna be real interesting to see the arguments that we're gonna make as this committee
23:55Continues to put it together over the next couple of weeks. I can't wait for it
24:00And Joe it all came to a head last year right in the final and
24:03Year of the four team format of the college football playoff
24:07Really a year that we had not seen since the very first of the CFP where there were so many candidates
24:13That were able to be there that were qualified. I'm not talking about the election day here in America
24:19I'm talking about the college football playoff despite using the word candidates
24:23But there were so many teams Joe that based on the resume we're deserving of a spot
24:28Based on the track record and the precedent that the college football playoff selection committee had set out for us and it's 10 year
24:36History, but really the CFP committee got a pass in the decade of doing this because they could say
24:43All right, here's four teams. You have two losses or more. See ya
24:47We know conference championships are something that we add to a resume great
24:53Here's the top four five and six interesting and then who cares about the rest by the time we get to the final rankings
24:59That cannot be the case any longer
25:02They are going to have to make arguments all the way throughout the board with the seven at-large birth
25:09Available and of course the five highest ranked conference champions that will earn an automatic bid to the college football playoff
25:16I cannot wait. I think things might get fiery even on this first one
25:21We shall see but before we dive into the CFP
25:25We talked the end of the opening half of this NFL season the Chiefs at the end of nine weeks
25:32Midway through this NFL campaign the only undefeated team left at eight, you know, listen
25:38It's 18 weeks now in the NFL regular season every team plays 17 games
25:42There's not a chance. The Chiefs could stay undefeated all year long, right?
25:46That's what we had to ask the people in fade the public
25:57At sports grid on Twitter, well the Kansas City Chiefs go undefeated this season
26:02Yes, or no
26:04It is a simple question probably more complexity than the answers than those two choices and yet the public Joe
26:11Overwhelmingly saying no nearly 91 percent of the vote in our fade
26:16The public poll saying the Chiefs will at least drop one game at a point this season. The public is correct
26:22I do not believe that Kansas City will remain undefeated the entirety of the year to expect that is almost insane
26:30Despite how good the Chiefs have been off to this 8-0 start
26:34But Joe, Kansas City is only covered in five of their eight games all three non covers in games
26:40The Chiefs were laying at least six and a half points
26:42and as we have shared the average margin of victory for Kansas City is
26:47Just about eight points last night as a nine and a half point home favorite against the really banged up
26:53Buccaneers game had to go to overtime for Kansas City to decide at six of their eight wins by a single score
27:00Kansas City is going to drop at least one game at a point this season. At least we would expect I
27:07And this schedule does not get easy from here. They still have two games against Denver
27:13They still have to play the Chargers. They still also have to play Pittsburgh and of course Buffalo
27:18So there is this is not an easy schedule down a stretch
27:22They've been good enough to win close games thus far Ben
27:27But at some point we both know that luck is gonna run out
27:31Regression will come and they won't win every close one score game in the NFL. They're not blowing people out
27:38It's not that kind of team, which means they're probably gonna lose a few along the way. So I agree with the public
27:44Yeah, you have to right but when you look at the schedule for KC the remainder of this season Joe
27:51We talked about it in the opening hour
27:53They are going to be favored in at least
27:56Eight of their final nine games and more than likely all nine at least they pick them price
28:01the one spot you would point to for Kansas City's first loss and the most likely L on the remaining slate is
28:08In two weeks two Sundays in Buffalo taking on the bills a huge regular season matchup
28:16against Buffalo right now
28:18The early projected spread is Kansas City maybe laying a point on that
28:24Spread you could estimate it to maybe minus 118 money line for KC and the bills and even money plus
28:31100 favorite or underdog I shall say we'll see by the time we get there
28:36But Joe that might be really the only spot that you look at the remainder of this resume
28:41The Kansas City is not going to be at least a field goal
28:464.6 point favorite the remainder of the way when you look at the early projected odds
28:51The only other spot right now
28:53Which is a little bit laughable that Kansas City is laying less than a field goal is in
28:59Cleveland in their fourth the last game of the year
29:02Against the Browns team that has won two games and it could be the Jameis Winston experience to the positive that day
29:09More than likely though not the case. That is how favorable the slate remains for Kansas City
29:14It's why they're updated wind total is
29:1714 and a half and I do believe the Chiefs have a good chance to flirt with that number at the very least
29:24Yeah, but also keep in mind Ben
29:26What might week 17 and 18 actually mean to the Chiefs if they've locked things up already?
29:33So you got Pittsburgh you got to go on the road to Pittsburgh on Christmas and then January 5th
29:38You got to end it at mile-high
29:40Against Denver, so I to thinking they'll run the table
29:44Man, they better be playing for something week 17 or 18 because Pittsburgh might very well be a team
29:50They've got to see in a couple of weeks in the playoffs. Anyway, so
29:53If there's just too big a role of the dice here
29:56I think to expect them just to go ahead and run the table
30:00They're gonna lose a few along the way and maybe even one to a team that we're not
30:06Thinking they're going to lose to here Ben
30:09For sure and Joe you could maybe even see that this week perhaps
30:13They're hosting the Denver Broncos on a slightly short week nine and a half point spread in favor of KC
30:20Again, they have not been great as a six and a half point favorite or greater this year
30:25They're one and three against the spread the Broncos did get beat down pretty good though as a nine and a half point road dog
30:31last week in
30:33Baltimore they've got the Panthers the week after they take on the Buffalo Bills
30:37Kansas City is not going to be undefeated at the end of this year at least not in my
30:42Estimation and the odds kind of reflect that a plus 850 Joe if you do believe though the Kansas City has a shot at going
30:49Perfect 17 and oh, I wouldn't bet that price
30:52I do a nine-leg money line parlay that would pay you out better than plus 850
30:58Absolute absolute just keep rolling it over just keep money lining them and rolling it over and you'll be much better shape than plus 850
31:06Yes, you will and maybe make a lot of sense along the way