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00:00I know Keith we both didn't believe John Heyman last week. No, I don't believe anything John Heyman says
00:05I also can't follow on Twitter cuz he blocked me but that's good nothing to do with that man. He blocked you. Yeah, okay
00:12Sure, why?
00:13Well, I had some real personal attacks on him
00:18Is he I was threatening his family so he decided to block me who else have you been a
00:24shoutouts or Cinco blocked me Ben Roethlisberger blocked me and
00:27And
00:28Keith law these sensitive baseball guys. I'm still waiting for Jocena Anderson to unblock you
00:34Nope, I haven't here you go
00:37John Heyman. Yeah did have the Red Sox meeting with Juan Soto if you care about no
00:45Fake news, so that was last night and there was a lot of blowback to that reporting. However today today
00:51Okay, Jeff passing you like his reporting sure
00:55What's the I don't know I don't know I think so hold up you don't like Jim Bowden
01:00You don't like John Heyman who you like baseball who's reporting?
01:03Would you trust a little Kenny Rosenthal a Ken Rosenthal socks are in you're gonna buy it a little Kenny says that
01:08So well Kenny put it in your pocket if you wanted to walk around a little bowtie on
01:14He's like little penny. Look. Yeah
01:17Perfect. So I should go as like a ventriloquist dummy every Halloween
01:21If you like the best cost of sitting your lap the little baseball news
01:25So Jeff pass and keep on top of John Heyman says another team with Soto at the top of its want list
01:32Not wish list want list want list the Boston Red Sox
01:36They've also had a meeting on the books with Soto this week along with the other teams and like the Blue Jays their aggressiveness
01:42Extends into the starting pitching market as well. So they want starting pitchers. Got it. Soto is at the top of their want list
01:49Okay, you buying this? No
01:52No, I'm not. Why there's zero chance. They're gonna sign Juan Soto. Are you buying it anymore record?
01:58Are you buying it any more than the John Heyman report?
02:00Uh, yeah a little more likely to believe Jeff because John Heyman clearly is just for us trying to pump up his market
02:07Yeah, right add more teams to the pile. Yeah team set. Oh the Red Sox are interested
02:11They might not be as following as closely as we are and John Heyman had don't spend two mystery teams now for Soto
02:15So, you know, I mean, you know, so, you know, that's Boris. I'm more inclined to believe Jeff Passan
02:21I still yeah, I still can't let my heart go there that they're finally gonna spend but on Juan Soto
02:26They're not so don't worry about your heart going there. They're not gonna spend on Juan Soto
02:31It is not gonna I should be worried about my heart, but okay
02:34So do you think this is do you think they're gonna meet with them?
02:38To sort of say well, we were interested because they've got some cash. They've done that with everybody else
02:44Yeah, it could be that because like you don't have to spend a dime to meet with the guy
02:48Nope, so they can say hey optics wise we met with them
02:52But man, the Yankees offer just fine. We offer we were close
02:55We're gonna tell you the number but we were let me say this the fact they're even taking a meeting to me is
03:00Promising because they're at least worried about you are taking the cheese. That is a suckers
03:04No, they're at least worried about the optics. My bigger fear is they're not even worried about the office
03:08They're just like nope not doing it
03:10Don't care don't care about you enough to even play the game
03:13They at least care enough and I was skeptical of this
03:16This is more they at least care enough to play the game. Did they take a meeting with Otani last year?
03:22No, I don't think so. I noticed it like three times. Okay, so but there's so like tracking somebody's private
03:28Look, this is a this is a slight bit of it doesn't mean they're gonna land him
03:31No, they're not and I'm not I'm not taking the cheese that they're gonna land him
03:34But they at least care enough about optics to go through the motions to sit for a meeting with one
03:40So don't take I don't think they've taken meetings with anybody lately. I think they're sure they're taking meetings with
03:45To Oscar Hernandez last year. I don't even think they were taking meetings at Lugo
03:49So they at least care enough about the optics to take a meeting. No, but they were interested
03:53They've been interested in a lot of guys
03:55Some of it is with meetings number Jose a brave you which ended up looking like they dodged a bullet there
03:59Cuz he ended up just falling off a cliff
04:00But they were like, oh we're so close to none
04:02They were one of three teams four teams interested in a lot of guys
04:07They weren't all a list guys like Juan Soto
04:10But that's almost even more embarrassing when you lose out on the Seth Lugo's of the world to mid-market teams
04:16The one sort of thing like I just don't see them realistically being in on on this guy
04:22Maybe they just want to be like they I think maybe they do care a little bit about how they're getting ripped
04:28It's why they signed Devers if they weren't so publicly ripped about getting rid of Mookie Betts not re-signing Xander Bogart's
04:35They probably would've been like screw it. Let's just get more young guys
04:38It just tells me there's they still care a teeny teeny tiny bit a teeny tiny bit. It's real small
04:45It's not a lot. Is this Breslau convincing him?
04:47Is this Theo's has some sort of role with the team like question?
04:51is it one of those guys being like hey, we gotta at least talk to these guys and
04:55You know, maybe that but I don't think Red Sox fans
04:58Are that dumb? I think Red Sox fans. No, it's not happening. You think they are. I don't think they are
05:02Well, nobody really believes they're gonna sign one Sutter
05:05Do they if you think they're signed one Soto?
05:07I'm all ears as to why now they're gonna sign one multiple reports one from the agent side
05:12We're guessing one from the team side Jeff Passan that says they're in on Juan Soto. They're gonna take a meeting again
05:17I don't expect them to land number. What do you get hacked by Bitcoin? I
05:21Thought they this is what I thought. I thought they cared so little they didn't even care about the optics
05:25They at least care about the optics or tells you on some level. They're worried about losing you. That's actually a promising little development
05:33Worried about losing the fan base on some level that they're at least gonna go through the motions and take the meeting
05:39That might not be much these days, but there isn't much to glom on to with the Red Sox. That's something
05:44I don't think they're gonna land him either
05:45I will say Keith if you read the full pass and preview and I did okay and by read the full thing
05:49I mean control f Red Sox control f Boston so I could go through and see who they were linked to
05:55They were linked to freed in there. They were linked to Sasaki. I'll take max freed
05:59I don't know enough about Sasaki, but I'll take max freed the more
06:02I think it's a sake might be the kind of guy they're in on he's gonna be a bargain
06:05Okay, so I'd have no idea if he goes play really good. Yeah, they might really be in on him
06:11But so do you have to sell him on Boston, but he's not gonna cost you a crap ton of money
06:15So maybe two weeks ago Alex Spear did a reddit AMA
06:19Yeah, they were like, what do you think they're doing free agency?
06:22And he's like, I think they're gonna spend like a hundred million dollars. Yeah, that would be two seasons of Juan Soto
06:27Juan Soto, that's not a bad deal. No Juan Soto two years hundred million. Take it. Would you pay Juan Soto?
06:33650 million dollars would I yeah. Yes. Yeah me too. They wouldn't right? Yeah, so you're gonna meet with him
06:39He's gonna be like guys. I want a ton of money. They're like how much he's like 650
06:42Is it great? How about 300 is it crazy for them to offer him two years 100 million? Like is that just insulting?
06:48He's nice guys. I'm gonna get a 13-year offer
06:49Like what are you doing if he was coming off an injury or if he was older one or one year a hundred million?
06:55Yeah, what do you think highest paid guy for one year and then he's like and then what yeah free agent again
07:00Yeah, yeah, that's the deal. Yeah, you're back out. You want it? You can do it again
07:04I don't I even if they meet with them
07:06I think it's only for optics which I guess to your point maybe is better than like ignoring it all together
07:11But I bet they don't even offer him and I don't I bet they don't even give him an offer
07:15Yeah
07:16You gotta follow through and at least make like a fake off cuz their best offer
07:20Yeah, probably be half of what he gets true. Maybe less it might might get 600 million dollars. Oh, he's 650
07:27I think he's gonna get yeah north. So if he gets 13 years
07:3150 million per year, that's 650. Yeah, they come in with like we'll give you 200 million dollars
07:37He's like, excuse me low years high a V. You got to at least offer that you got to do Derek
07:41Do you want to play with so Jaron Duran your plan Keith though your plan last week when we talked about this?
07:47You don't think they're gonna get Soto both of us get judge and Soto, but what's that? Well, that was our two-point plan
07:52Yeah, yeah sign Soto. No, this would be a wild success. He's fans turn on Aaron judge
07:57You get them both. No you you want a big-ticket pitcher and a big-ticket
08:01Hitter that I want one of each. I want two guys that you're like, they should be all-stars read Alonzo
08:07Yep, you know
08:09For lack of a and Vladdy. I know there's a
08:12Right. Yes, that's what you want
08:13Burns are freed from the pitching free agents trade for one of the Mariners guys
08:18And then with the bats either trade for Guerrero Juan Soto
08:22Yeah, Pete Alonzo like what one of those guys? Yeah, will you Thomas do it for you would not do it
08:27That doesn't do it for me. No, and I think there's a way to based on what is available Bregman. I
08:34Like the Bregman idea, I don't know
08:35I don't know what you do like you play him at third and then you move Devers somewhere
08:38But I but I I like the Bregman idea. Yeah, I don't know if they're gonna get him
08:43But I would be pumped about Bregman. I
08:45Wonder so then not that this isn't a problem. They can't overcome but just Devers DH. They're probably yeah, that's probably what you do
08:51It's Masatake Yoshida
08:53That's what Devers Devers is a DH. So you might as well play him where he belongs
08:57You might actually get some real production out of it
08:59But they could probably take two of like a prospect or two that they really like trade those guys
09:04Get a stud in return and then sign one stud so you don't have to sign two
09:09Crazy contracts sign one crazy contract bring in another and then you know, you might have to tweak that contract I suppose
09:14But maybe not right away
09:16It's their form like there are plenty of names out there where they can have a successful offseason. I just don't trust it
09:21So are you buying the Juan Soto reports? It's not just John Heyman. It's also Jeff passing now. They're gonna meet with him
09:27Well, they actually make an offer. We'll see so you can jump in on that
09:29What makes a successful offseason for the Red Sox?
09:31Keith wants an arm and a bat a big ticket arm and bat would that be enough?
09:35Do you just need one or the other?