NFL Hall of Famer Ty Law joins! Is there enough talent on this Patriots' defense? Is it fair to compare Mayo's defense to Belichick's? Do you agree with Wiggy and Ty?
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00:00Tie yeah your thoughts on the New England Patriots and what occurred on Sunday
00:08So I'll say it again. I know it's getting a little repetitive, but I like a quarterback
00:15Let's give compliments first. I think he I mean he has a great upside
00:19I mean he's gonna he's thrown like a pick damn near every game every other game
00:22But that's expected of a quarterback when especially when you don't have a great offensive line protecting them and no weapons
00:29So when you when you talk about the picks you talk about the turnovers
00:33Hey, that is more in your mind on the lack of an offensive
00:38Well on youth and but you were blaming the offensive well youth and a lot
00:42This is actually back-to-back weeks where I feel like the line was pretty good. It's the receivers you got no receivers
00:49Even he talked about it at the end of the game when him and who was it Keyshawn booty?
00:54Mario yeah weren't on the same page, you know, that'll come I think ultimately, you know reading cover to use his legs, though
01:01So that's another thing he can get out of a lot of stuff in and make up for the lack of
01:06Protection because he's a good. He's a good scrambler, you know, I mean he can use his legs, but I want to go to the defense
01:13Okay, see see now that's a problem. You know as a defense you take that personally
01:18You can't let two receivers get a hundred yards, you know what I mean?
01:22So somebody is not covering nobody. Yeah, they're not tackling. I'm not tackling whatever that's been a problem
01:29but when you just
01:30Let a guy do anything
01:32He wants as we said when is somebody where you gonna go up there and play bump and run when is somebody gonna go get?
01:37Up in somebody's face. Yeah and take you right there off the line of scrimmage
01:40I do not see that wiggy doesn't want to hear it. We were in fact arguing about it earlier
01:45but isn't that a
01:48Glaring mistake by Gerard Mayo
01:50like isn't when you have when you look at Christian Gonzalez who has been extraordinary and
01:57you got him out on the boundary and
02:01Not covering one of those two guys
02:04is
02:05So, you know that right there now see that's a that's that you got to blame that on the coach
02:11Do you know if that's the case?
02:12You know what? I mean if he's not going cuz I would think
02:15The type of talent that Christian goes on you got to put him on
02:19Puka or you got to put him on Cooper cup and that is your guy
02:23Period, you know, he's always on somebody. You don't need him to bliss
02:26I mean, even though he wants to bliss I always want to bliss I used to go to Bella check all the time
02:31Let me bliss coach. Let me bliss. Hell. No you get paid to cover
02:34well, this is what this is what I had assumed would be Gerard Mayo in his first year as an NFL head coach would be
02:42his
02:44You know his forte
02:46would be that side of the football and it doesn't seem to be and so he
02:53you know when he is on with us like he was yesterday he
02:58I mean he he kind of explains these things away like
03:03You know if they had gone differently, it would have been
03:06You know would have been a great occurrence. I mean like
03:09You know, I asked him yesterday about the zero blitz which was on a second down early in that football game and
03:17He said well, you know if it if there'd been a sack you would have loved it
03:21But that's not what happened
03:23no, you when you do stuff like that early and you know, you don't have an abundance of talent, especially the second day outside of
03:30Christian Gonzalez
03:31You're exposing your other guys when you do a zero bliss
03:35Because when you go after it those guys are one-on-one they're exposed and if you don't have the talent to cover
03:41Hey, that's an accident waiting to happen. And and it's gonna be very fortunate for a
03:47Receiving core like the Rams and a quarterback like that, you know what I mean?
03:51You give them and if they protect it, you know
03:53You're gonna lose every time because you don't have that abundance of talent
03:57Well, unless she has a unless you have a decent corner that can play man-to-man coverage exactly
04:01But again, they got one and not using it like that
04:04Well, you know that the problem I have because the secondary coming into the season
04:08We were like should be fine. And I think that you know males probably like bill
04:13That's why I give bill the edge, but you know, it's 20 plus on 40 years of you know defensive genius
04:21Versus Mayo who's really trying to do it for the first time on his own. So there we can't compare males
04:30Defense to bill Belichick's defense because I think bill obviously puts up a good game plan
04:36It's just I think more so is your talent. You don't have that's what I'm saying
04:41So bill had talent because in certain situations and if you know your talent bill's not gonna call that in that situation
04:48Knowing that he ain't got no cover no coverage right there. You know what I mean?
04:52Don't call the zero you try to protect guys and when you know
04:55If someone was hurt
04:57Bill would always try to protect the other guy and not expect him to do the same thing
05:01Like if I went down until your prove yourself
05:04He wouldn't expect you to go out there and do the same thing that I was assigned to do
05:08You know what I mean? So my backup, yeah, that's why you my backup, right?
05:11You know what I mean?
05:11So you supposed to coach in that aspect until they get comfortable enough to do so and go out there and hold it
05:17Hold it down on their self on their own, right?
05:19And I mean Jonathan Jones gets cooked and you know that you would expect he he's about a guy
05:25That's been around for a while and you would think okay, he would have had a better opportunity. I understand. He's on an island there
05:32But if you look at it all Cooper Cup does is run a really a skinny post and he's what seven yards off
05:38It wasn't a great route. No, I wasn't happy with how he had though
05:41He wished he could take that one, right?
05:43Because if you look at the rest of the receivers that you know, I'm kind of just looking at it
05:47They're all in pretty good coverage except for he's outside leverage on a guy who's running a like you said a lazy skinny post
05:53And if you're not there, they don't get to him in time. It's you know, Cooper Cup sitting his head on the goalpost. I
06:00wonder like
06:01Like I get the defensive element and their thing is Gerrard's thing is it's more the injuries
06:07But if they're just too inconsistent like you look at them and they're like, all right
06:11It's one good game and then there have a really bad game. They're just this defense has been inconsistent all year long
06:17It's a lot of pieces that they need to
06:19Put in place to be competitive, you know both offensively and defensively
06:24So what is going to be the priority come draft time, right?
06:27It's going to be interesting to see what that priority is going to be whether it's going to be
06:31Offensive lineman was going to be a receiver to give him
06:34Give the quarterback of the future some help. Is it going to be some defensive players? Where would you put it? I
06:41Think would with may you got to give him some more options. You got to give him, you know
06:48Solid and I think Stevenson is a decent running back serviceable
06:52I'm sure but give him somebody on the outside
06:56Because the way he can extend plays and use his legs
06:59You got to give him a receiver to at least put fear as somebody else. I
07:04Can't run and I ain't afraid of none of those guys
07:06Yeah, you know I go out there one on one it might win one wiggy on seven on seven right now
07:10You know, I mean really like born is the I mean is really the is there anybody else that you would?
07:17No, I wouldn't keep anybody, but I think we might be I mean so Polk has more penalties than he has reception. Yeah
07:24He's got four penalties and then three catches
07:29He's just like he's always doing something but I think the thing that we might be missing is
07:34We're always talking about the offense and I've said this
07:38Hunter Henry is
07:40decent
07:41You know, I think you can you know the past couple of weeks the old line you said it Greg and you're right
07:46Not bad. You've just brought it up tight
07:49Romandre Stevenson is serviceable. You could probably find somebody the Gibson kids not bad
07:53You're missing that number one on offense, but I think your bigger issue is
07:58defensively
08:00You might really be you should be look, you know what I'm doing because this team cannot get to the quarterback
08:07I'm seeing
08:09What's going on with Max Crosby in?
08:13Vegas like I'm looking to you know, we always talk about trade for this guy and trade for that guy
08:17we might have to start looking at guys up front that can get to the quarterback and make things easier for those guys in the
08:25Back end when you elevate Gerard Mayo. Uh-huh. How is the defense not the best?
08:32Side of the football on this team because you don't have to tell it
08:36It's not
08:39We talked about last season top 10 defense last season bill was that bill was the head of that defense completely different
08:46Okay, different scheme. So some guys going to right you at some point you have to question Gerard Mayo
08:52Oh, oh, I'm not questioning. I mean he's in denial. It seems like sometimes when he's on this radio show
08:58Yeah, I would also just offer Greg that the Patriots got relatively fortunate in the quarterbacks
09:04They faced last year. They faced a lot of backups like this year. They've had two Aaron Rodgers opponents. They've had Joe Burrow
09:11They've had Matthew Stafford who played at an elite level Trevor Lawrence say what you want about him first pick in the draft
09:17They haven't had as easy of a road
09:20Against quarterbacks in their season to this point. That's been a big
09:27Only good game that Aaron Rodgers played was against your your sad football team, right?
09:33Well, I'm just saying I mean entering the year you all thought that the Jets were gonna dominate with their beginning
09:37They yeah, but you were right about that, but I it's I will tell you
09:41When you look at this team
09:43You're supposed to have somebody at every level where you're like, especially on defense like all right
09:49We need it. We need to know where this guy is
09:51I'll give you a bar more but he's dealing with the injury and he's a guy led your team in sacks last year
09:56There's no way your interior defensive lineman should lead in your team in sacks unless it's Aaron Donald
10:02Then you look at your corner Christian Gonzalez, I think yes, he's good. I mean Duggar was back in mr. Tackle, right?
10:12Everybody's gonna miss a tackle you gonna give up a play here near I was wearing the way they miss them
10:17Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is. It's uh, I say just the fundamentals
10:21I say old-school, Oklahoma drill wiggy
10:22I don't know but people don't tackle no more in practice great cuz it's like it's it looks like they give up out there
10:28Like it looks like they're they they stop running when they're trying to go because it's not normal Coco
10:34They're they're not tackling because they're protecting the players so they can go out there and play the game
10:38But if you don't practice tackling if you don't do those type of drills, how are you gonna perform them in games?
10:44You know what? I mean?
10:45That's just what it is
10:46They are not and I get the whole thing of you know, you want to play on Sunday and protect players
10:50But when you put a product out there that is not fun to watch that is not good football
10:56You might need to reconsider that and change some things, you know
10:59I mean we had to practice every day tackle and you just need to be healthy enough to play the game and I would just
11:04This is the quarterbacks last year. They had Tommy cutlets. They had Sam Howell. They had Ellinger
11:10They had Derek Carr who stinks they had Zach Wilson twice instead of Aaron Rodgers
11:16They had the guy with the small hands with the Steelers
11:19Not exactly the murderers row, of course
11:22Good that's a good take right and the other thing I look at is they have what they're three and eight over there
11:28That's their record. That's what a look. What is that 11 11 11 games?
11:33Your number one sack getter is Diedrich Weiss with five through 11 games
11:41Ty will tell you as a defensive guy when you got a guy that can get to the quarterback
11:48Consistently and as is an animal where you have to game plan for they
11:54You might have lost a lot with Matt you don't I know he's struggling in Atlanta and I dread I like the third
12:01Third round pick you got from him, but no one has stepped up in his place
12:06I thought I was gonna have nine sacks the week prior
12:08But if you look at the nine sacks three of them came off of blitzes
12:13Struggling down there. Yeah, I think yeah, he's not he's not doing great down there
12:17but if you look at that, how many of those at
12:19school I had a sack that came off of a blitz the
12:24What's the name Petrus?
12:25He had a sack that came out Pettis Pettis. Excuse me that came off a blitz
12:29Jelani to buy sack came off a blitz when he was the inside linebacker. So
12:34When you start to think about sacks, yes, you have to manufacture them when you don't have a guy like a Bosa
12:43Max Crosby a
12:46Miles Garrett where you can just say, all right go get him dog
12:50You don't have that and I will tell you how much help it helps out
12:54I know it helps out a lot. But if you think about the way we play as well wiggy
12:59We didn't have anybody just go get him because it has so many
13:03Responsibilities. So if you compare our teams with the names and some of the guys that's on this team right now
13:09You can just go by position defensively. We got Willie McGinnis right out there Richard Seymour, right?
13:15You know Bobby Hamilton. Yeah, Ted Ted Washington
13:18Then you get Mike Vrabel Roman Pfeiffer Teddy Bruschi, you know, Rodney Harrison
13:24Ty Law, Lori Malloy
13:25So they're looking to talk about these type of names and this type of talent
13:28It is different when you look around and you see this team right now. Who is they Mike Vrabel?
13:33Who is their William McGinnis? Who is their Teddy Bruschi? Who is Richard Seymour?
13:37That's what I'm talking about talent. I don't give a damn. I think you are as a coach if you don't have the talent
13:42Yeah, you're not gonna be too successful
13:44Ted Washington the scariest teammate you ever had because he was terrified
13:48You know what? He was terrified and look at but he was a nicest, you know, funniest dude, you know ever
13:54You know what? I mean? He's not he wasn't
13:56Aggressive at all. What's his biggest like in the locker room? He was way bigger than willful bigger than willful. Oh, yeah
14:02Way way bigger. It's like with but with height
14:06Yeah, everything that thing was he was an absolute mock
14:09But it was like a gentle giant when it comes to the locker room and being around the guys
14:14Don't you know what I mean? We got to take a quick break