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00:00:52Gentlemen, gentlemen, we got probably the best running back in football tonight going
00:00:58Derek Henry.
00:00:59I'm sure that's going to be the lead.
00:01:00It's going to be a real exciting game, J.K.
00:01:04Dominic's revenge game.
00:01:05Of course, we got to start with my guy, Saquon Barkley, I believe it was 302 total yards
00:01:12last night.
00:01:13Clem, this has to make you sick as a former Giants fan, seeing him just tear it up for
00:01:19the midnight green in Philadelphia.
00:01:21I feel like, hold on, there are people who don't get the joke, so I'm going to have to
00:01:26read a tweet.
00:01:28This tweet could be from anybody.
00:01:32I don't see a name on it, but it was from September 6th, 2024 at 11.01 p.m.
00:01:37You'll be thanking me in due time.
00:01:40All the dopes celebrating Saquon having one of the great games need to understand fantasy
00:01:43football is a four month marathon and not a one month sprint.
00:01:47Someone also tweeted, do not draft Saquon Barkley in fantasy.
00:01:50ADP 10 overall is crazy.
00:01:53Blame the Giants all you want to.
00:01:55But when do we admit he's just not a great player?
00:01:58Someone, maybe an Asian man, tweeted that.
00:02:03I think it was at FFFpod.
00:02:04I mean, they're doing crazy things with AI nowadays.
00:02:05Ben Mintz.
00:02:06I think it's the Ben Mintz's pod, right?
00:02:07But yeah, I'll own it.
00:02:10It was me.
00:02:11It was me.
00:02:12I tweeted that.
00:02:13And yeah, I've been wrong about fantasy stuff before.
00:02:17And you know, it's kind of a dart throw.
00:02:18It's all about health.
00:02:19And this is a guy who hadn't been healthy for the past several years.
00:02:23So my take was fairly counter in that I thought his ADP was too high for his previous production.
00:02:30And a lot of what was going into his ADP was projecting for what he'd be with the Eagles.
00:02:34I was not sure he was going to stay healthy.
00:02:36And he obviously has stayed healthy.
00:02:39You can say absolutely the best running back in the league.
00:02:43It's him and Derrick Henry, however you want to slice it.
00:02:45He certainly offers a lot more in the receiving game.
00:02:47So certainly, Saquon Barker, the best all-purpose running back in football right now.
00:02:51I have no arguments with that.
00:02:52He's been outstanding.
00:02:53He broke off a 70-yarder and a 72-yarder last night.
00:02:58He's in the conversation for MVP, which is crazy for a running back.
00:03:02But I mean, the season he's putting up, it's hard to argue.
00:03:06I owned it a couple of weeks ago after he passed the illustrious 1,005-yard rushing mark.
00:03:12I was wrong.
00:03:14We're in the business of takes, right?
00:03:16You're in the business of giving the best takes you can possibly give, given the information that you have, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:03:23Sometimes you're going to hit, sometimes you're not.
00:03:25The unfortunate part, and we all have done it, is when your opinion or your advice or your strategy
00:03:33is so incredibly wrong, and it backfires so hard.
00:03:38And that's what you missed by a million miles.
00:03:42And that's what sucks.
00:03:43Because we've all, yeah, you couldn't have been more wrong.
00:03:47And we all just throw shit out to the internet.
00:03:50And very few times does it come back to us.
00:03:53Because it's like you just type something, you hit send, you move on to the next.
00:03:56This one is just, it's tough.
00:03:58Because you said, as you said, like a MVP running back, do not draft, stay away from him.
00:04:05And yeah, it happens, it happens.
00:04:08The good thing for Steven is that he doesn't have one of the biggest sports media personalities
00:04:13who relishes in his misery and will retweet that take every time Saquon runs for a 70-yard touchdown,
00:04:20which is basically every single Sunday at this point.
00:04:22And the fact that he had to get over 300 yards last night was such a mean thing to do.
00:04:27Because it's like 50, 270, it's still bananas numbers.
00:04:30But the 300 mark, that is, that's the 50-burger in college football for another person
00:04:36that that media personality loves to dunk on.
00:04:39And again, Steven, I would honestly like to thank you.
00:04:41Because I think everyone knows Giants fans, we loved Saquon.
00:04:44We didn't want to see him go.
00:04:46But he'd be doing, he would not be doing it with the Giants.
00:04:49He probably wouldn't even have whatever his yardage hurdle is
00:04:51for the entire season with the Giants, let's be honest.
00:04:53So it's like, I'd be happy for him if he went to basically another team
00:04:56other than the Eagles and the Cowboys.
00:04:58But you have just, you are the army guy meme,
00:05:02with all the Giants fans at Barstool sleeping at night.
00:05:05You're just taking all the trap notes.
00:05:06So thank you, sir.
00:05:07Does it even hurt anymore?
00:05:09Because like last night had to hurt once like the second touchdown
00:05:12or they're showing all those numbers that are like never been done before.
00:05:16I saw like, even his back-to-back fantasy games are out of this world.
00:05:20There's only been like eight running backs who have matched it.
00:05:22So you're like dealing with history now.
00:05:24You're chasing history.
00:05:25Steven, what's his take?
00:05:26I mean, once he passed that illustrious 1,005-yard rushing mark,
00:05:31which I staked my take on, it was kind of curtains for me.
00:05:35So the difference between, you know, 1,006 yards and 2,000 yards,
00:05:39honestly, it's fairly small for me.
00:05:41Had he finished with 1,004 rushing yards, though,
00:05:44I would have been taking the biggest victory lap of all time.
00:05:47But you're on good for him.
00:05:49I like this tweet from Tommy Smokes Clem.
00:05:52The Giants might be three and eight with Saquon instead of two and nine.
00:05:55It made no sense to keep him.
00:05:56They need 30 to 40 more good players, not just a running back.
00:05:59I think that's so incredibly accurate.
00:06:03I think Big Cat calls it like the Mahomes effect or whatever,
00:06:06where it's like, oh, even if the Bears had drafted Mahomes,
00:06:08it wouldn't have mattered.
00:06:09Like he would have sucked on the Bears
00:06:10because we're the Bears and the organization.
00:06:12And I do think there is merit to a lot of that,
00:06:15especially being a Washington fan, where for like a decade,
00:06:18it didn't matter who we took.
00:06:19It just wasn't going to work out.
00:06:21And I think that is kind of what happened to Saquon.
00:06:25He could have been an all-world running back the last five years.
00:06:28But when you go to the worst organization in football, you can't be good.
00:06:32Yeah, if the Giants were what Dave Gettleman thought they were
00:06:35when he was drafting Saquon at two with the end of Eli
00:06:37and trying to rebuild the team on the fly,
00:06:40then yeah, Saquon would have been doing awesome stuff.
00:06:42They just weren't good from that point on.
00:06:43And he would get hurt because he'd be running into lines
00:06:46they would never use him right,
00:06:47because Jason Garrett was going to play instead of the Philadelphia offensive line,
00:06:52which is a bunch of studs instead of the nonsense we've had over the years.
00:06:55And the Giants, and like, I was fine going into yesterday's game.
00:06:59I've reached a point where they can't hurt me anymore.
00:07:01And it's sad that it happens before Thanksgiving,
00:07:03but I'm used to what happened before Halloween,
00:07:05which is basically where I was at already.
00:07:08I'm used to this as a Giants fan in the last decade.
00:07:10But there was something about that game, that Giants game with,
00:07:13I already don't like the whole Tommy DeVito thing.
00:07:15He's now turned his back on being a meme,
00:07:17which was the whole reason we actually liked him last year.
00:07:20And we've become, the Giants are now a meme like the Commanders were,
00:07:25the Jets are.
00:07:26As a Mets and Knicks fan, I'm used to having my team.
00:07:30And it's like, anything you do is going to be wrong.
00:07:32People dunked on the Knicks for years for not drafting Steph Curry,
00:07:35who was drafted one spot above them.
00:07:37They didn't even have the chance to not draft Steph Curry,
00:07:40and the Knicks get dunked on for it.
00:07:41And the Mahomes thing that Big Cat says is what I always thought about Curry.
00:07:46If Steph Curry got drafted by that Knicks franchise way back then,
00:07:49run by whatever morons were in charge of it,
00:07:51his ankles would have been a problem.
00:07:53He would have ended his career in like five years,
00:07:54and we would have had one of the greatest basketball players of all time.
00:07:56I'm happy he was not a Knick.
00:07:58And I was thinking of this world today.
00:08:00Like if Saquon went to the Texans,
00:08:02I think we'd all be rooting for the Texans as Giants.
00:08:04We'd be like, you know what, it sucks that he's not here.
00:08:06But look at this dumpster fire in New Jersey.
00:08:09I'm much rather, I'm like, I think a lot of people would be like,
00:08:12rooting for Saquon to like win the Super Bowl with his new team.
00:08:15That's kind of where we're at as a fan base.
00:08:17It's beaten down, I know.
00:08:18But it's like, he had to go to,
00:08:20like the Cowboys weren't even as hurt as much as the Eagles.
00:08:22Like, we just hate the Eagles.
00:08:23You hate the Eagles.
00:08:24You know how it is.
00:08:25The fun thing about that Steph Curry thing is,
00:08:27Washington had the fifth pick in that draft.
00:08:30And we traded it to Minnesota for, I believe,
00:08:33Mike Miller and not Brandon Roy.
00:08:37His name sounds like Brandon Roy.
00:08:39Randy Foy.
00:08:41So yeah.
00:08:41Sounds like Brandon Roy.
00:08:43Yeah.
00:08:43So yeah, we had that fifth pick where Steph was taking seventh.
00:08:46And we thought Mike Miller was the better option.
00:08:49So, fun little fact.
00:08:51And then, you know, the Timberwolves drafted two point guards overhead.
00:08:55Drafted Rubio and Johnny Flynn.
00:08:56My guy, Johnny Flynn.
00:08:57Yeah.
00:08:59Rubio, good player.
00:09:00People also forget Steph Curry was hurt for his first couple years in Golden State.
00:09:04And when they traded Monte Ellis, the fan base was like mad about it.
00:09:07They're like, we're keeping this guy or Monte Ellis?
00:09:10Didn't Mark Jackson keep Steph on the bench or like tell him not to shoot threes?
00:09:13He was like, we don't shoot threes in Golden State.
00:09:17And then, like, they sent him to the broadcast booth.
00:09:19And whenever he commented on Golden State games, he was always so surly about Steph
00:09:23shooting threes because he was like, no, he thought it was like his team that was
00:09:28winning all the championships.
00:09:29And everybody, like on NBA Twitter, it's like they never would have won with you because
00:09:33you're a terrible coach, Mark Jackson.
00:09:34Anyway, I could talk about Steph Lurr forever.
00:09:38I think that whole thing's fascinating.
00:09:40Yeah.
00:09:40With you guys being New York, obviously Clem Giants fan, Nate, I know you're a
00:09:43Commander's fan, but who for NFL fan bases, who has it worse right now?
00:09:49Is it the Giants or the Jets?
00:09:50Because the Jets are a complete dumpster fire.
00:09:54Yeah, the Giants just got their Jets.
00:09:57I almost say Cowboys more than anything, because Jerry runs the team like a psychopath and
00:10:03he's still the GM and he's trading fourth round picks for terrible wide receiver and
00:10:08they paid Dak a ton of money in there.
00:10:11He brings in Ezekiel Elliott to be a starting running back for some reason.
00:10:14I think the Cowboys pound for pound might because they're just no man's land.
00:10:20Micah Parsons once out of there, whatever.
00:10:22But it's the Jets to answer your question.
00:10:24In New York, it's definitely the Jets.
00:10:26And like, listen, I went on like a spiel.
00:10:29It's Mara, I think, is the problem.
00:10:30It's because everything the Giants fans are complaining about about Shane and Dable.
00:10:34They complain about about Judge and Gettleman and Shermer and McAdoo.
00:10:39Ever since I started working and the end of the Reese era, we've been talking about the
00:10:42GMs, the coaches and the players.
00:10:44At some point, you have to be like, all right, let's just those positions are not the problem.
00:10:49It's clearly the person above them.
00:10:50And again, it's like all his cronies, his like brother in law is in the front office.
00:10:54They're the only people who survived all this hell.
00:10:56It's his brother, his brother in law, and like a couple other guys who are like on the
00:11:00inside and they're like director of player personnel.
00:11:03They're like big positions.
00:11:04I also think like you guys know how it is.
00:11:07If you get into misery rankings and I cry about a Mets fan, I'll have Pirates fans be
00:11:10like, dude, you don't understand how good you have it.
00:11:13And that's it.
00:11:13As a Giants fan, I could be pissed.
00:11:15We also make the playoffs like once every six years.
00:11:17We won a playoff game not too long ago.
00:11:19It's like at least we get some happiness.
00:11:21The Jets have the longest drought in professional sports, right?
00:11:23And the Jets have no backup plan.
00:11:25Aaron Rodgers clearly gone, clearly a big failure.
00:11:28They have no backup plan.
00:11:30And they have just, they're the worst run organization.
00:11:34You just go to the Jets to die.
00:11:36I have no idea what the Jets plan.
00:11:38I don't think they have a plan.
00:11:39And they have Woody as the owner too.
00:11:41So it's not like they have a good ownership situation.
00:11:42So I think, and they also like kind of mortgaged everything for Rodgers.
00:11:46They have to start from the studs.
00:11:48The Giants are probably gonna have to do that at some point as well.
00:11:51But I still feel better as a Giants fan.
00:11:53You want a QB, if say you have the number one pick, you go QB, obviously, right?
00:11:58You go Shader?
00:12:00Yeah.
00:12:00I mean, at this point, are you getting in the Deon business?
00:12:02I mean, that's the question.
00:12:03Steve, do you think it's gonna happen?
00:12:04I think it's gonna be a package deal.
00:12:06I don't know.
00:12:06The thing is like Deon could pull an Eli and be like,
00:12:09I'm not taking my kid unless I want him to go somewhere.
00:12:11And if he did it to the Giants, it would be kind of fun.
00:12:13I feel like Deon doesn't really love the Giants.
00:12:15But like Vegas or the Cowboys even, even though Dak's a million dollar,
00:12:20a billion dollar fucking cat pit, I do think there is a chance.
00:12:24But yeah, I don't follow college enough.
00:12:26You tell me who the best quarterback's gonna be.
00:12:27I'll sign up.
00:12:28I'm gonna root for my guy, create a hype group.
00:12:30And we see where it goes from there.
00:12:32Yeah, it'll be interesting to see just because Colorado also got like the number two QB commit.
00:12:37So like, does that affect like what Deon is gonna obviously gonna want to coach his kid.
00:12:41But, you know, if he leaves, I would assume the recruit like Colorado just kind of crumbles.
00:12:48So, Clem, you sign up for the circuits, right?
00:12:52Deon being the head coach of next year's New York Giants.
00:12:54You sign that up for the Pages, right?
00:12:56Like, at that point, you don't care if you make the playoffs or a good football team.
00:13:00You just you sign up.
00:13:01So you have Deon as the head coach of your football team just to watch it happen.
00:13:05So I'm like, every three years we fire the head coach and it's like, bring back Belichick.
00:13:09We hire Belichick.
00:13:10The circus is in town with the Belichick circus.
00:13:12We're going to bring in the circus with the Deon circus.
00:13:15Maybe Rabel would be like more of an actual grown man.
00:13:18But again, I feel like it's just going to devolve into it.
00:13:21So, yeah, at this point, just give me the circus.
00:13:23Let's have some fun.
00:13:23Let's get crazy with it.
00:13:24And, yeah, bring Deon.
00:13:25Honestly, I don't think anything changes until Mara either sells the team or like he got
00:13:30like everyone forgets is the Giants of the 70s were just as much a joke.
00:13:33The whole thing about the miracle in the Meadowlands with Kerm Edwards returning that touchdown.
00:13:36That's what people started kneeling that like they had to get George Young.
00:13:41George Young came in, made the team awesome.
00:13:43They got Parcells one, two Super Bowls.
00:13:45And then from there on, it was like, of course, he was a young guy.
00:13:48And it all like that's the Giants being like in the mix for all those years started with
00:13:52rock bottom until Mara hits that.
00:13:55So, yeah, like, yeah, bring the circus in.
00:13:57We're a circus right now.
00:13:58I mean, that game yesterday, we have Baker Mayfield doing the time, like the first overall
00:14:03pick in a draft, you know, X amount of years ago, mocking an undrafted quarterback celebration.
00:14:09And it's like, yeah, like we deserve it.
00:14:11The fact that fucking Tommy Cutlets was like thrown in as an actual starting quarterback.
00:14:16They lost a locker room.
00:14:17It's a full blown tire fire.
00:14:19I would feel like you're giving too much time for the Giants, right?
00:14:22Let's talk about the commanders.
00:14:23That was the game of the day yesterday.
00:14:26Well, I should know I should.
00:14:27I just want to the one note on the Baker Selly in his postgame press conference.
00:14:31He said it was a tribute said he actually knows Tommy DeVito.
00:14:34They hung out the Super Bowl last year.
00:14:36He's a cool guy with a lot of swag.
00:14:37But he said it was a tribute.
00:14:39Take that for what you will.
00:14:40But that's what he said.
00:14:42Let's talk about.
00:14:43Yeah, at the end of that commanders Cowboys game was in.
00:14:47Nate, as a fan watching this live, you see Jaden Daniels throw the I think it was 86
00:14:53yard touchdown.
00:14:53It's a McLaurin incredible throw incredible run after catch gets all the way to the end
00:14:57zone to seemingly tie the game.
00:15:00Austin Siebert with his unfortunately second missed extra point of the game and then Dallas
00:15:06returns the ensuing kickoff for a touchdown.
00:15:10Nate, what was this roller coaster like as a commanders fan?
00:15:14Commanders fan.
00:15:15So the first half of the game was the ugliest worst half of football.
00:15:20I think I've ever watched.
00:15:21I know we throw that around casually.
00:15:23If you sat down and watch the entire first half, like right now, you'd probably agree
00:15:28like that was not football.
00:15:30That was some abortion of the game of football that is now on my TV.
00:15:34I hated it.
00:15:34It was terrible.
00:15:36The second half was crazy.
00:15:37Obviously, so many bad special teams plays so many just insane things happen.
00:15:42And then leading to that touchdown for Terry, the missed extra point Siebert was hurt like
00:15:47this is first game back.
00:15:48We have a feeling some people think that he like got rushed back and you don't want to
00:15:52lose his job because the kicker we brought in was actually pretty sick.
00:15:55But that's besides the point.
00:15:57A lot of people are now calling us frauds and this and that we've lost three in a row.
00:16:01And I've been pretty consistent about where this Washington team is at.
00:16:06We definitely overachieved in the first half of the season.
00:16:09It was extremely fun to watch.
00:16:11As fun of football can be when you have a young, awesome quarterback and the offense
00:16:15is just rolling.
00:16:16But guess what?
00:16:16The NFL is really hard and the defensive coordinators figure stuff out and the game gets tougher.
00:16:21The schedule also gets tougher.
00:16:23And we haven't had our bye week yet.
00:16:25And everybody's banged up.
00:16:27And we came into the season with a banged up offensive line.
00:16:30No depth at secondary.
00:16:32Our wide receiver core is awful.
00:16:34Besides Terry Noah Brown's our number two wide receiver.
00:16:37And he was cut from the Texans.
00:16:39He was their number five.
00:16:40Zach Ertz, somehow he's our starting tight end.
00:16:43He's a dead person out there.
00:16:45He's bad.
00:16:46So we have a bad roster that overachieved by a lot.
00:16:50But we are so far ahead of the rebuild where if you told me at the beginning of the season,
00:16:56hey, you're gonna have seven wins.
00:16:58Like, fuck you.
00:16:59Sign me up.
00:17:00We were seven and three.
00:17:01Like, that's really hard to come by.
00:17:02We're seven five now.
00:17:04It's perfectly fine.
00:17:05I'm not worried at all about any of this.
00:17:08That Cowboys team is pathetic.
00:17:10They were god awful.
00:17:12I will say it's a bad loss.
00:17:14But it's a divisional game.
00:17:16I get it.
00:17:16It happens.
00:17:17It's the NFL.
00:17:18We should not have lost that game.
00:17:21It's kind of inexcusable.
00:17:22The play call-in was not great.
00:17:24Cliff, second half, Cliff is people were talking about.
00:17:27I see it.
00:17:28But I also think when Noah Brown is your number two wide receiver, you're kind of handcuffed.
00:17:32There's just not a lot you can do.
00:17:35So I think it's a little of both.
00:17:36I'm not worried about the team.
00:17:37I'm not upset about the team.
00:17:38I wish we won the game.
00:17:39But I think rebuilds don't happen overnight.
00:17:42And we're kind of seeing that this team that Ron Rivera drove into the ground for five straight
00:17:48years, we have some building to do.
00:17:51I do think like this.
00:17:52I'm mad at myself when I was just like looking at the bets.
00:17:55Every year, like when the Cowboys are good, there's always a Washington game where you
00:17:59guys gave them a game that you had no business being in and they just returned the favor
00:18:03on you, right?
00:18:03Like everyone's looking at the Cooper Rush and the Cowboys are an absolute joke right
00:18:07now.
00:18:07And it's like, I should have seen it coming.
00:18:09These divisional games happen all the time.
00:18:11And we act surprised when like a bad team beats a good team.
00:18:14And the one thing that makes you feel good about yesterday, it was like absurd level
00:18:19of stuff that happened.
00:18:20And this is my fantasy hot take, Steven.
00:18:23You have yours out there with Saquon.
00:18:24This will be mine.
00:18:25I hope it doesn't come back to burn me.
00:18:27I picked up Siebert or Seibert, whatever his name is, in fantasy.
00:18:30And I always have a thing.
00:18:31Do not take a kicker the week he comes back from an injury.
00:18:34I did it because he's so fucking good.
00:18:35And I had Aubrey who, again, he's on the Cowboys.
00:18:38Just do it.
00:18:39Just leave him in the fucking waiver wire.
00:18:41Let him be someone else's problem.
00:18:42If he shows he's healthy, you can pick him up the next week if not.
00:18:45But he clearly wasn't right.
00:18:47I know there was a bad snap as well.
00:18:49But that's tough.
00:18:52I didn't realize they rushed him back.
00:18:53But I mean, hey, you guys beat the Giants because the Giants, what did they do?
00:18:56They played a kicker who was hurt.
00:18:58He got hurt on the kickoff.
00:18:59And then you guys won a game despite being out game.
00:19:02The Giants scored nothing but touchdowns.
00:19:03You scored nothing but field goals.
00:19:04And for the first time in NFL history, which has a billion games,
00:19:07you guys were able to win that game.
00:19:08So that's my fantasy cake.
00:19:10Let me just say this one more time.
00:19:12So Ron Rivera is our head coach for four years.
00:19:15And 90% of the guys he drafted are gone.
00:19:19His first round picks were Chase Young, who I think he's still in New Orleans doing nothing.
00:19:24Jamin Davis, who was graded at a third or fourth round talent.
00:19:27Ron Rivera took him in the first round because both of Jamin Davis's parents were in the military.
00:19:32And Ron Rivera wanted the soundbite that he's a good young man because
00:19:36his parents are in the military.
00:19:37That's literally why we took him in the first round when he was a third round talent.
00:19:40So he's gone.
00:19:41Jahan Dodson, second round wide receiver talent, taking first round.
00:19:45He's so bad we traded him to the Eagles in the division
00:19:48where his best game is one catch for 36 yards.
00:19:51And then Emmanuel Forbes came into the league as a 160-pound corner.
00:19:57We took him one spot ahead of Christian Gonzalez,
00:19:59who is going to have an all-pro season in New England.
00:20:02That's Ron Rivera's drafting.
00:20:03That's why this team has no depth.
00:20:06This team was not built properly by Ron over the last four years.
00:20:10Our offensive line is just in shambles, and Ron never once tried to revamp it or anything.
00:20:17So when we overachieved in the first half of the season, I kept saying,
00:20:21it's like, man, we have a bunch of like 63 overall guys in Madden
00:20:25starting for this team and just overachieving.
00:20:29Like I was like, the bubble has to burst, like the pumpkin has to turn into the carriage.
00:20:33And it happens with injuries.
00:20:34And when you don't, when your starters are injured
00:20:37and your backups are worse than your 63 overall starters, all hell breaks loose.
00:20:42But we still could have won the Steelers game,
00:20:44and we still could have won the game last night.
00:20:46So it's like, we're not that bad.
00:20:48We're just not over that hump yet.
00:20:50And I think that's perfectly fine.
00:20:52We beat bad teams besides the Cowboys, and we lose to good teams.
00:20:56And that's not the worst place to be with a rookie quarterback.
00:20:59Also, shout out to Kevontae Turpin with the most Madden kick return ever with that slow-ass.
00:21:06I mean, that was crazy.
00:21:08That was so awesome to see.
00:21:10Can I say this?
00:21:11I watched it back.
00:21:12I don't know if the spin move did anything.
00:21:14It was just really cool.
00:21:16But like, watch it again.
00:21:17He kind of just stands in like, spins in a circle,
00:21:20and people are already out of their lanes, just doing absolutely the worst.
00:21:25And he just has a thousand-mile-per-hour speed.
00:21:28But yeah, it was pretty sick.
00:21:29It's exactly how EA draws it up.
00:21:32Like, that exact replica of the Madden spin move.
00:21:36Steven, I got a question.
00:21:37Just talking Commanders.
00:21:38Are you in the office right now recording?
00:21:40I'm not, no.
00:21:41Okay.
00:21:41I want to know, because I saw PFT and Hank.
00:21:43There's definitely, you know, there's like a,
00:21:46I don't know if it's a cold war or a hot war right now.
00:21:48It's tough when your co-workers are also kind of your buddies,
00:21:51but they're busting balls.
00:21:52But then they're placing bets against your guy.
00:21:54And when you have a rookie quarterback, it's like your child, basically.
00:21:58Yeah.
00:21:58So then you're betting against your child.
00:22:00Like, I got to just know, like,
00:22:02if there's still some tension in the air right now.
00:22:04Like, Jaden, maybe I don't want this to be the end of part of my take.
00:22:08Like, could Jaden Daniels be the fucking Miss Elizabeth of it all?
00:22:11Mega powers explode.
00:22:12I guess it would be more of Big Cat and PFT exploded.
00:22:16But still, Hank is, you know, key part of that as well.
00:22:18Well, because Hank still has Drake.
00:22:20Like, we have, like, that podcast has the three quarterbacks.
00:22:24Caleb, Jaden and May.
00:22:26And they're just, they're just all firing guns at each other
00:22:30because Caleb will have a good week and Big Cat will say he's back.
00:22:33But the Bears still suck.
00:22:35Drake May looks kind of good, but the Patriots are terrible.
00:22:40And then we have Jaden, who was like the darling of the NFL.
00:22:44And now he's coming back down to earth a little bit.
00:22:46So then since Drake May is looking good, Hank is, they're just,
00:22:49I mean, yeah, it might be the end of the podcast.
00:22:51They're all just going to shoot Uzis at each other.
00:22:53It's truly incredible, too.
00:22:54It just shows how, like, your brain changes when you have a rookie quarterback that you love.
00:22:59Because those three teams have no, like, rivalry with each other.
00:23:04You're going to have more three teams that are neutral against each other.
00:23:06Yet it somehow just ends up with infighting.
00:23:09Because you just love your guy the most and think he's the best.
00:23:12And then it just turns everyone else into the enemy.
00:23:13We've all been there with different quarterbacks and players before.
00:23:16So it'd be very interesting.
00:23:18And then, I mean, we could talk about it.
00:23:19I mean, I don't want, all right.
00:23:20You transition us to the next topic here, Stephen.
00:23:23So I will say, like, and I said this to all those guys when their guys got drafted.
00:23:28If you're not going to legitimately compete for a Super Bowl,
00:23:33I think the funnest experience as a football fan is rooting for a young quarterback with potential.
00:23:38So those guys all have that.
00:23:40But we got to talk about Caleb Williams on that note.
00:23:42Down 11 points with under 30 seconds left.
00:23:46Forces overtime.
00:23:47An incredible showing from the number one overall pick.
00:23:51He had some awesome, awesome throws yesterday.
00:23:56I think he's still good.
00:23:58I think he's going to be very good.
00:24:00I'm not kind of worried about the Shane Waldron era's first, you know, whatever it was, nine games.
00:24:06Where there were certainly some ups and downs.
00:24:08He's looked much better the past few weeks.
00:24:10Shout out to him for catching the big brain parlay yesterday with over four and a half carries.
00:24:14But Caleb Williams, legitimately awesome.
00:24:17Bears fans, they lost the game.
00:24:19I think it's fine.
00:24:20If they're not going to play off team this year, I don't know if they're ready.
00:24:23Maybe they get rid of Iver Blues and things get better.
00:24:26I think they are a fun, exciting team when they're playing like this.
00:24:31Clem, what are you seeing from Caleb Williams?
00:24:33I mean, you see all the flashes.
00:24:34I mean, you saw it in USC, right?
00:24:36But then you also see the bad USC.
00:24:38And then you can see all the stuff you don't like about Caleb Williams.
00:24:41They all appear.
00:24:42It really is like a Rorschach or whatever.
00:24:44That kind of test.
00:24:46I'm just thinking right now, because I saw you have Bo Nix on the sheet as well.
00:24:51I think part of my take needs to hire a Broncos fan.
00:24:54Because then all these guys will be sitting at home watching the playoffs.
00:24:56And Bo Nix will be in the first round.
00:24:58And then that guy can be like, my quarterback's in the playoffs.
00:25:01He wins fucking football games.
00:25:02I think you need to add a little bit of chaos.
00:25:04I don't know who's like the biggest Broncos fan.
00:25:06Do we have Rudy into the fucking mix?
00:25:10I think Rudy could bring the heat.
00:25:11He can mix it up with the boys.
00:25:13I think you have Max there with Jalen Hurts, which is a whole other fucking thing.
00:25:16So I think that.
00:25:17Okay.
00:25:17I think we need to get Rudy into the mix with them.
00:25:19But yeah, Caleb Williams.
00:25:20I think you see all the good and bad.
00:25:22It's like, this is the thing about the Bears.
00:25:24So everything I said about the Giants and Nate said about the commanders with Snyder.
00:25:28It's like the ownership.
00:25:29It's like you have to hire the right coach and the right coordinator.
00:25:32They shouldn't even gotten the chance to ruin Caleb Williams rookie year.
00:25:37And the fact that they do this, they did it with Trubisky.
00:25:40They did it with fields.
00:25:41And now they're doing it with Caleb again, where they keep the coach.
00:25:44He sucks.
00:25:45He gets fired the first year and they have to fix it on the fly.
00:25:50I honestly, I do hope the Bears figure it out.
00:25:52I got a lot of friends over there in Chicago, and I would like to see them not be miserable.
00:25:56Like Nate, when you guys got out of the Daniel Snyder business as a niche fan, I'm like, dude,
00:26:01I'm just happy for you guys.
00:26:02I always considered us.
00:26:04We were the basketball version of the, you know, our words and vice versa.
00:26:07So it's like, man, you're out of jail now.
00:26:09And I would like to see them get out of jail.
00:26:11I guess the McCluskey's or whatever the names are.
00:26:13McCluskey's have to die.
00:26:14I don't know.
00:26:14No one the other way.
00:26:15Or just sexually harass every single employee.
00:26:18That too.
00:26:18Yeah, that's another way.
00:26:19She's the only two ways.
00:26:21Nate, rank the top four rookie quarterbacks right now in your mind.
00:26:27I like that.
00:26:27So I have to go Jaden one, Bo Nix two.
00:26:34You see Caleb do these magical things and you want to put him at three, but you also
00:26:38see him throw off his back foot into double coverage.
00:26:41I guess Caleb three, Drake May four.
00:26:45But I don't know.
00:26:46That could switch easily, like any given second.
00:26:50I mean, Bo Nix is great.
00:26:51Like, he looks really, really good.
00:26:53He's going to lead the Broncos to the playoffs.
00:26:55He's 16 touchdowns, six interceptions.
00:26:58It looks like he's only getting better week over week.
00:27:02He's lost in the conversation.
00:27:03Maybe it's because of our bubble.
00:27:05Our barstool bubble doesn't talk about him like we talk about Jaden and Caleb and Drake
00:27:10May, but like he he's the real deal.
00:27:14He looks unbelievable in Denver.
00:27:16Yeah, Clem.
00:27:17Clem, how do you stack them?
00:27:18So this is I'm going to do the Stephen Shea.
00:27:20Let's go viral here.
00:27:22The 2024 rookie quarterbacks, Jaden Daniels one.
00:27:26We're going to go Bo Nix two.
00:27:27I like that Nate dog.
00:27:28You throw Nix.
00:27:29It kind of catches the eye.
00:27:31Three.
00:27:31We're going to go Drake May four.
00:27:33Michael Penix junior.
00:27:34I like what I saw out of him.
00:27:35A couple of drives in.
00:27:37Five Caleb Williams.
00:27:38You got to get those eight click clicks.
00:27:40Those rage, you know, retweets and stuff like that.
00:27:42So we'll put Michael Penix on the list.
00:27:45Also, give me my flowers saying Marvin Harrison junior, not a top 10 wide receiver.
00:27:50I was all over it all over it.
00:27:53Way overrated.
00:27:54So all the fantasy take haters with the sequence stuff one for two.
00:27:58I'm batting 500.
00:27:59You wish your favorite baseball player could do that.
00:28:04All right, let's move on.
00:28:05Um, we, we kind of touched on, on Baker and, uh, the Giants, the Giants are just dog shit.
00:28:10They honestly don't.
00:28:10Oh, Stephen, Stephen, I apologize.
00:28:12I'm order bling on you here.
00:28:13I got to get your take on the two insider stories that broke at right before the weekend.
00:28:19Adam Schefters once broke a story after having sex with a girl for the first time in while
00:28:23he was in bed with her.
00:28:24And then Ian Rappaport furious that Mike Malarkey once fed him a fake story to piss off his
00:28:31bosses.
00:28:31And that was a young rap sheet going.
00:28:33And he obviously got duped.
00:28:35So as like our version of those guys, what's your take on each of those?
00:28:40She's been duped on the draft show.
00:28:41Like I was three years.
00:28:42He's been duped multiple times.
00:28:44So that's like a bit we have.
00:28:45So like, how do you, you have experience with it?
00:28:47And Stephen Shay, infamous sex habit as well.
00:28:50I'm sure you've tweeted after sex.
00:28:52Maybe the story of this big time.
00:28:55All these things.
00:28:56Very true.
00:28:57Uh, guys take a, take a look where I'm taping this right now.
00:28:59I'm a shifty guy.
00:29:00I'm taping this and chef these office right now, uh, chef, the, uh, getting the job done
00:29:07after, before, during throwing out scoops guys committed to the game.
00:29:11How can you not love that?
00:29:13That's what I want for my NFL insider.
00:29:15He doesn't take days off.
00:29:16Bill Belichick, no days off.
00:29:18He's the best chef.
00:29:19He's the best.
00:29:20The fact that you opened up about this is so cool.
00:29:21He just in Denver, he used to work in Denver.
00:29:23He's worked for the Denver post.
00:29:24So shout out chef.
00:29:25The also like myself in the mile high club.
00:29:28Um, absolutely.
00:29:28The man rap sheet kind of a weasel.
00:29:35And, um, I think this kind of proves like the, the segment that this broke on, he thought
00:29:40this was going to be his big triumphant, like screw Mike Malarkey.
00:29:44But then, um, who is it?
00:29:46Uh, Mike Garofalo and, um, I forget who the other hosts on it was just kind of like laugh
00:29:52and were like, that's kind of a funny thing.
00:29:54And they, you know, they both admitted like in rapport, um, this wouldn't necessarily
00:30:00happen to him today.
00:30:01He's much more established than he was, you know, however long ago that was six, seven
00:30:04years ago.
00:30:05Uh, but he's obviously held onto this grudge and taking it really seriously.
00:30:08This has happened to me before during the draft show from multiple different sources,
00:30:11mainly from big cat.
00:30:13Um, but this is just a sign of taking yourself too seriously.
00:30:18Like if people are still dunking on Ian Rapport, who does a tremendous job and breaks a ton
00:30:22of stories.
00:30:23I have a bone to pick.
00:30:24I have a grudge against Ian Rapport.
00:30:26There was a two week period in like 2018 where I had an insider in the Washington front office
00:30:34who was feeding me scoops.
00:30:35And so I broke like a couple of signings, uh, Washington did and Ian Rapport stole them
00:30:41from me after I tweeted them and didn't give me credit.
00:30:45And I, I've always held a grudge against him since.
00:30:49That's, that's legit.
00:30:50That's, that's a fair reason to dislike the guy.
00:30:53Is there a chance he did not see yours?
00:30:55And even if he did, yes, there's a hundred percent chance.
00:30:59He maybe didn't see me because I had 20,000 followers, but everybody was tagging like
00:31:05credit, parcel Nate, credit, parcel Nate, and he wouldn't credit parcel Nate.
00:31:09So the integrity of the job in my eyes of his job went down where he would not say at
00:31:15parcel Nate had, if obviously I don't actually care.
00:31:18It was like a fourth string wide receiver, but it was just funny that I had this random
00:31:22guy for like two weeks.
00:31:23He definitely got fired.
00:31:24He was definitely leaking everything.
00:31:26And he was just DME.
00:31:27I had Adrian Peterson to Washington before anybody, but I didn't believe the guy.
00:31:31Cause it was so out of left field and he's like, no dude, I'm legit.
00:31:34Like I work in Ashburn and I was like, all right, keep feeding me these.
00:31:36So I got like the next two and it was awesome.
00:31:39There you go.
00:31:40Never heard from him again.
00:31:42I'm obviously a big chef.
00:31:43The guy I've met rap sheet before.
00:31:44Um, I'll say the shifter gets a lot of guff for being short.
00:31:47I'm pretty sure in a, in a pickup game of basketball, he's calling for the ball on the
00:31:51block against rap sheet, rap sheet.
00:31:52It's a tiny guy.
00:31:54So chef, the barbecue chicken on rap sheet all day.
00:31:57I think Basan's like a little man too.
00:31:59I don't know about Woj or Shams, but I feel like Woj is five, 11, six.
00:32:04Oh, so Woj is like the big guy out of the crew then in that case.
00:32:07Cause I feel like it, I think Shams, I think he's on the taller side as well, like around
00:32:13normal height or taller.
00:32:14Interesting.
00:32:16Hoopers, you know?
00:32:17Um, all right.
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00:33:47Everything's secure?
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00:34:06Also, my mailman comes kind of late.
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00:34:10My mailman sometimes comes like 730, 8 o'clock.
00:34:13It's too late.
00:34:14I have no idea.
00:34:15All I know is the mailman are the most trusted people in New York City
00:34:19because they have a key to every single apartment building.
00:34:22Oh, yeah.
00:34:23It's kind of crazy.
00:34:26Do they have to swear an oath?
00:34:28They get fingerprinted government employees.
00:34:30But still, if I'm down on my luck, maybe I shouldn't say this out loud.
00:34:34If I'm down on my luck, I'm becoming a mailman
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00:34:42And like, what's it like if you went crazy back in the day called going postal?
00:34:45Because like the mailman were like shooting people or something like that.
00:34:47Like, yeah.
00:34:48No, I think that's because people showed up to the post office with a gun.
00:34:52And oh, they were shooting the post office people.
00:34:54I think I could be wrong, but I thought it was because I'm going to look it up.
00:35:00I thought it was because post offices were crowded and people would go to crowded places.
00:35:04Post offices are a crazy place, or at least were.
00:35:06I'm sure it's not as crazy as it is back in the day
00:35:09because people had a lot of stuff from the house.
00:35:10But Steven, like.
00:35:13No, you're right.
00:35:13No, no, Clem, I'm sorry.
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00:35:16In the 1986 onward, USPS workers shot and killed managers,
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00:35:55Let's touch on college football a bit.
00:35:58Indiana, the slipper.
00:36:00Maybe not fitting anymore.
00:36:01Gets smote by Ohio State.
00:36:04Shout out to white boy Rick and Ella.
00:36:06All the Indiana grads down on their luck.
00:36:10Is this it for Indiana?
00:36:12Or do they still have potential national title hopes?
00:36:16Maybe playoff hopes?
00:36:18Indiana's fine.
00:36:19They're fine.
00:36:19Because the SEC all lost.
00:36:21I'm saying this based off of, like, tweets.
00:36:23Like, Brandon Walker would have, like, a Twitter thread.
00:36:25And he's like, SEC sucks.
00:36:26Everyone apparently lost the night games.
00:36:29So I was excited to see how it would go.
00:36:32It's just like, I don't know.
00:36:34I don't think any of us would really be college fans here, right?
00:36:36There was so much.
00:36:37I'll get into it more around draft time.
00:36:38But I don't have a specific team.
00:36:40So I'm not watching.
00:36:41During the season, yeah.
00:36:42The amount of banter about whether or not Indiana deserved the playoff spot before the game.
00:36:48I'm like, guys, after the game, we'll know a little bit more.
00:36:50But there was so much back and forth on, like, Friday and Thursday.
00:36:53I'm like, everyone can just shut the fuck up.
00:36:55And by 3 o'clock on Saturday, Eastern time, we're going to know, like,
00:36:58how they look against a real team.
00:37:00And they looked bad.
00:37:01I went to the Army game with our boy, Captain Conz.
00:37:04And I'm like, all right, maybe Army has a shot here.
00:37:06Since, like, the one big undefeated underdog, you know, lost today.
00:37:11And I think Army actually looked worse than Indiana, which I didn't think was possible.
00:37:14So it was a tough day for two, like, beloved undefeated teams.
00:37:18But just different levels of, like, Ohio State's on another level.
00:37:22Like, I think Indiana got to see that.
00:37:24But I love Indiana.
00:37:25Are you guys Indiana fans?
00:37:26Like, I love the whole SIG thing.
00:37:28I love the fact that it's Indiana, which is the most random college football team to come
00:37:31out of nowhere.
00:37:32And, like, it kind of gets sick of, like, the same old Big Ten teams.
00:37:34It's nice to have a new one in the mix.
00:37:38You like to see a new team.
00:37:39Sorry, Nate, go ahead.
00:37:40I would say Antoine Randall-El, the pride of Aggies football.
00:37:45That is my extensive knowledge of that program.
00:37:48I'm a Maryland guy, obviously.
00:37:50We're absolute trash.
00:37:52But you know what?
00:37:53I follow college football through Twitter and the big games.
00:37:59Like, I'll watch, like, Georgia-Alabama, Clemson.
00:38:01You know, my brother went to Clemson, so I started following Clemson a little closer.
00:38:06But this bracket, having a bracket, you toss anything on a bracket,
00:38:11Barstool Nate's watching it.
00:38:12Like, brackets make everything so much more interesting.
00:38:16You remember old internet, March would come.
00:38:19We would have a bracket for every movie character, TV character, breakfast cereal.
00:38:24Because this was still when there was blogs.
00:38:26Every blog would come out with 14 different brackets in March,
00:38:29and we would debate them to all ends of hell.
00:38:32So yeah, brackets get the people talking.
00:38:34It's about time college football had a bracket.
00:38:36Like, look at March Madness.
00:38:38It takes over the world, offices everything.
00:38:42Because people love filling out brackets, putting Indiana on a bracket against, like,
00:38:47Ole Miss, I think is, like, awesome.
00:38:49You know, just, like, two different sides of the country, fan bases, everything.
00:38:53You just pit those.
00:38:54And college football fans, as we know, are psychopaths.
00:38:58Like, absolutely crazy people.
00:39:00Nothing has ever been a better idea for comp.
00:39:03Like, I'm a big sports fan.
00:39:05You know, like, we all are.
00:39:05But we don't follow college football that closely.
00:39:08This gets people to follow college football way closer.
00:39:11So I've watched way more college football this year
00:39:14and followed along with the storylines a lot more.
00:39:17Maybe it's because Indiana, Ohio State, like, just the bubble we're in
00:39:21makes you pay a little more attention when those teams are good.
00:39:24But I just, sometimes things are just more interesting.
00:39:27And this definitely helps me get more interested in it.
00:39:30Um, real quickly, last thing in college football,
00:39:32Clem, as a potential Shadour team, what were your thoughts on that late hit?
00:39:36That was crazy.
00:39:38Yeah, on Shadour's knee.
00:39:40That was nuts.
00:39:41I mean, the entire, like, the Sanders fever.
00:39:44It's like, remember when they beat TCU last year and everyone was dumb?
00:39:47Oh, I told you guys, Colorado.
00:39:49No one believes in them.
00:39:50And then by the end of the season, it was like,
00:39:51I told you Colorado was gonna suck.
00:39:53And they've been, like, quietly, all right, like, pretty good.
00:39:56And everyone forgets Colorado was a fucking joke for decades, basically.
00:39:59That's right.
00:40:01So I don't, I like, I'm at this point, I'm like,
00:40:04I need every quarterback to be as healthy as possible.
00:40:06So we have at least a choice as the Giants fans
00:40:09between, you know, say they don't get the first pick.
00:40:11Or even if, you know, you just want to have options.
00:40:14That was dirty as fuck.
00:40:15I saw he pushed a ref or something.
00:40:17If I don't, I don't think that was penalized.
00:40:19So I'd probably push a ref too.
00:40:20If I'm gonna get people coming at my knees
00:40:22and potentially fucking up my career and millions of dollars,
00:40:24I might push a ref as well.
00:40:26I never have, but I might.
00:40:28Who's your favorite University of Colorado football alumni?
00:40:32Chris Brown, running back.
00:40:34Who?
00:40:35Chris Brown, running back for the Titans.
00:40:38Ran for Madden record, 529 yards with him in a game.
00:40:43On all Madden against Packers.
00:40:44My football, everybody remembers this Madden 0-5.
00:40:46I think it was week three.
00:40:49Just absolutely, just, we ran, we were Denzel's offense.
00:40:54Remember the Titans, we ran six plays.
00:40:55We ran it to perfection.
00:40:56I'm talking double tight end, subbed in offensive lineman for him.
00:41:00Motion him, runs the strong side, house call multiple.
00:41:03I think we had 10 touchdowns that game.
00:41:05Chris Brown, legend.
00:41:06529 yards on the ground on all Madden.
00:41:09Get out.
00:41:10I was going with Cordell Stewart.
00:41:11Cordell Stewart.
00:41:12Anton Randall L, 1.0, Steelers and everything, right?
00:41:15I mean, I guess he played quarterback instead of receiver, but.
00:41:17Wasn't he like punting half the time also?
00:41:19Yes, he punted.
00:41:20Yeah.
00:41:21He played, they put him at like every position.
00:41:24It was awesome.
00:41:24I love the slash, like one and a half, two years of slash.
00:41:28And I have a dark horse for, we don't talk about this person enough as an
00:41:32generational all-time athlete, Jeremy Bloom.
00:41:35He was drafted by the Eagles or the Steelers, Eagles to go into the NFL.
00:41:40While also being an Olympic skier, like being that good at two completely
00:41:46different sports, like an elite level is bizarre to me.
00:41:50I think that's more impressive than like Dion playing major league baseball and
00:41:55NFL football, just skiing and football.
00:41:58Like, I don't think he made a squad.
00:41:59I think he was cut after preseason.
00:42:01Still hits around pitch.
00:42:03He was drafted into the NFL.
00:42:04His knees got shattered from all the slopes, but pretty impressive.
00:42:08Then his sister, of course, Molly's game.
00:42:12He's the perfect dozen question.
00:42:13I think he's been asked multiple times, Jeremy Bloom.
00:42:17Also Eric Bien-Aimé too, obviously legendary boomer nickname, you know,
00:42:20sleeping with Bien-Aimé.
00:42:22And the fact that like anyone could run that Mahomes offense and not get a head
00:42:25coaching job, it's one of the craziest things looking back.
00:42:27I don't know what's behind the scenes with Eric Bien-Aimé, but it can't be good if
00:42:31he never got like an opportunity.
00:42:34If you remember, he was our offensive coordinator last year and he was dog
00:42:38shit.
00:42:38And so we let him go and then he went to UCLA to be their offensive coordinator
00:42:42and they're averaging like eight points a game.
00:42:44It's a good, good mess by the teams that didn't hire.
00:42:46We'll say that.
00:42:47Guy loves running the football.
00:42:48But speaking about blooms in bloom, one of my favorite Nirvana songs.
00:42:54Also, okay.
00:42:55I thought that was going to be a transition to something or segue to something.
00:42:58Just a fun.
00:42:58I was trying to transition eventually to the 76ers anal thing.
00:43:02I don't know if I can do a bloom anal thing.
00:43:05But yeah, did you guys see the 76ers graphic?
00:43:07Final looking like it says anal.
00:43:11We discussed meme teams earlier.
00:43:14I would like to welcome the sixers to the meme team.
00:43:17You're back.
00:43:17You're down here with the Giants.
00:43:19Again, all the Eagles fans dunking on the Giants.
00:43:20Just wait for the basketball team.
00:43:22Now the Knicks, my Knicks out of the mean team is our team.
00:43:25Steve and I've, you know, excuse me.
00:43:27It's so nice to be out of there.
00:43:28And the Sixers, it's like when you're quick, when you're quick, that's when, you know,
00:43:32it's like you can't win.
00:43:34And then it's not even just the winning or the losing.
00:43:36I should say like the Wizards lose for the Nate dog.
00:43:38But like, they don't have like the L of all funny stuff.
00:43:40I guess Jordan pool at his moments last year, but that's kind of subsided.
00:43:44I'm sure the Wizards will have their moments, but the Sixers, it's bad and be locked in for
00:43:50God knows how much longer at God knows how much money Paul George is podcasting with
00:43:54that fucking contract.
00:43:55And they're just losing.
00:43:57And the thing is, the Sixers, if they didn't have those two guys, I'd be like, wow, Maxi.
00:44:01And what's the kid from Duke?
00:44:04He killed the next year.
00:44:05He's awesome.
00:44:07The Sixers, Philadelphia would love this team if they had those two guys and 10 creative
00:44:12players, but instead it's just sadness and Embiid flopping and being heard and being
00:44:17mad at like snitches.
00:44:19It's, it's, it's terrible.
00:44:20So the, the anal, the kiss on top, and I'm sure we're going to see plenty more of it
00:44:24for the rest of the season.
00:44:26Yeah.
00:44:26Sixers are Jets-esque where you have this mega star Embiid, Aaron Rodgers, and they
00:44:31just can't get out of their own way.
00:44:33And they say all the wrong things at all the wrong time.
00:44:36Embiid makes me laugh.
00:44:39I think he's a naturally funny guy, but he's such just like a cunt on the court that is
00:44:44so unlikable to watch play basketball.
00:44:46He has taken basketball like just back like 30 years with just how annoying he plays.
00:44:52And then he's just always hurt.
00:44:54He's all he's blaming the fans and this and that.
00:44:56And just that team is in absolute shambles.
00:44:59And I will never forgive the NBA if, because my beloved Wizards, we are in full tank mode.
00:45:05We're trying to get Cooper Flag.
00:45:07If the Sixers somehow win the draft lottery again, and the Wizards have like the fourth
00:45:11pick again, I will do Kirk Manahan show.
00:45:14Like it is just, we, the Wizards need a break.
00:45:18We just have had no breaks.
00:45:20We have get John Wall and that didn't work out.
00:45:21Bradley Beal was Bradley Beal.
00:45:24And that's basically it for our drafts over the last 20 years.
00:45:28It's been so, so, so bad to be a Wizards fan.
00:45:32What was the, what was the Kirk show?
00:45:33Dig was, are you AMS?
00:45:36Oh, okay.
00:45:37Okay.
00:45:37Gotcha.
00:45:38Gotcha.
00:45:38Gotcha.
00:45:40Um, all right, let's uh, now that's also a tough thing to transition.
00:45:46That's saying, oh, geez.
00:45:50Um, let's talk about, uh, Frank, the tank and his, uh, title breaks apartment.
00:45:56Tough, tough scene.
00:45:58Frank issuing apology.
00:45:59Um, I don't know the exact time, but a couple of days later.
00:46:03So for those that didn't see the story, um, they were doing, I guess, a tank cooks at
00:46:10Fidelberg's apartment who has like a big enough kitchen for them to film.
00:46:14He said, no problem.
00:46:17Said he didn't have to, you know, say, Hey, I think he said, Jackie, his producer asked
00:46:21if they could do it there.
00:46:22He said, no problem.
00:46:23Didn't think he needed to ask like, Hey, can you clean up after like, that's just common
00:46:26courtesy.
00:46:27They, the video comes out where initially it looks like it might be, they could have
00:46:31like started a fire potentially where you got Jenks and Jackie and everybody kind of
00:46:35fanning, uh, the smoke out to keep the smoke alarms from going off.
00:46:48Frank doesn't know what's going on there.
00:46:49And then they leave and Fidelberg, uh, releases, uh, or puts out on Casey radio that they
00:46:56didn't clean up and left a giant mess.
00:46:59It took over 30 minutes for him to clean the host who let them use his kitchen.
00:47:04Wasn't even there.
00:47:06Um, he, I, was it, I believe it was him that blogged the top three people most to blame.
00:47:11Yeah.
00:47:12And where do you guys stand on this?
00:47:14It looks like Jenks is trying to apologizing almost too much and trying to get him
00:47:19hockey tickets and things like that.
00:47:21I think Jenks, I think the world of Jenks, um, Frank issuing an apology, Jenks bought
00:47:26him a Bruins at Rangers tickets for a game.
00:47:30John's not even in town for like Jenks was just spiraling.
00:47:34So he, I mean, Jenks legitimately felt bad, obviously, but I think they all did.
00:47:39Well, almost all of them.
00:47:41There's one guy who didn't feel bad.
00:47:43And that guy's name is Frank the tank.
00:47:45And he issues it.
00:47:46So they cooked last Wednesday.
00:47:48And then John puts out the clip, maybe Thursday or Friday and no apology from Frank, no tweet
00:47:54about it.
00:47:55Like Frank's just going about his day.
00:47:56And then you start reading the replies from like Jenks and Mikey bets.
00:48:00And Mikey bets is like, I'm begging Frank to apologize.
00:48:03And Jenks is spiraling.
00:48:05He's buying hockey tickets.
00:48:07He's saying I'll do any like, like he's making it worse.
00:48:10Cause John hates all this stuff.
00:48:12John's just like, I just kind of wish you guys cleaned up and I don't want hockey tickets.
00:48:16Like it's over.
00:48:16It's done with it's clean.
00:48:18But Jenks has to make it better.
00:48:19Cause like now he is just like losing his mind.
00:48:22And meanwhile, Frank doesn't give a fuck.
00:48:25Like Frank cannot be bothered.
00:48:27Frank finally issues an apology saying he was focused on the cooking content.
00:48:32He said, I should have cleaned the apartment.
00:48:35I was concerned with getting the food back to the office.
00:48:37He wanted people to try it while it was hot, fine.
00:48:39And should have had someone cleaning while we were getting out of there.
00:48:43I wish I would have had the chance to clean afterwards if fights wanted me to.
00:48:48And Frank goes, if he wanted me to clean, I would have done it.
00:48:51And someone goes, of course he would, what he would have wanted that.
00:48:54And Frank just goes, he did not ask.
00:48:57Frank's a little guy.
00:48:58And I have yelled at Frank on camera and we've had our moments.
00:49:03I drove with him down from Chicago to Vegas.
00:49:06I'm a, I'm a Frank guy.
00:49:08I like Frank a lot.
00:49:09I think he is very enjoyable company.
00:49:11I didn't think that was a punishment at all.
00:49:12It was a really fun time.
00:49:13And I was with Jenks and Mikey Betts too.
00:49:15So I like those guys too.
00:49:16Nate, you surprised me before the show.
00:49:18We brought up this topic.
00:49:19You said you and Frankie Midnight are very cool now.
00:49:22Oh, we're very cool.
00:49:23We, we chat about hockey all the time.
00:49:24Like just very, he, since the whole walking thing and, and really like getting a hold
00:49:30of his life, he's been so pleasant around the office.
00:49:34Like no, no real issues with anybody whatsoever.
00:49:37It's been like extremely nice.
00:49:39Like I give Jenks a lot of credit for that.
00:49:42Uh, and Frank, a lot of credit for like wanting to, you know, change his life and get better.
00:49:47But he still has his Frank moments and like stories like this is why like what makes Frank
00:49:52Frank, but also it is so wildly disrespectful to be like, like John was saying, there was
00:49:58just like dirty rags everywhere, garbage bags overflowing onto his carpet, just like pots
00:50:04and pans where pots and pans shouldn't have been.
00:50:07And it, it like, it's on the talent, whatever you want to call it, you know, Frank's the
00:50:14boss of that shoot.
00:50:16And it should have been like, it's such a no, like, it's not even a question.
00:50:19Like, does it should have been clean?
00:50:20And Frank's been like, well, he didn't ask me to clean.
00:50:25Sometimes, you know, sometimes your wires get crossed.
00:50:27It, it's hard to stay mad at him.
00:50:30Yeah.
00:50:30I mean, everyone's like, oh, Clem, you and Frank, you know, your rival.
00:50:33I'm like, I was, I was, I've always said, I love Frank.
00:50:35I was in the Frank to think business.
00:50:37One of my favorite subjects to blog is the old Frank, like the blackouts and the crazy
00:50:41stuff.
00:50:41He would say he'd have the Ninja Turtle pizza window.
00:50:44I mean, the guy is a content machine.
00:50:47Then people got mad at me when I was like, Hey, can we hold him accountable for the bet
00:50:50he made me?
00:50:50And everyone got mad at me for being like, you have to be accountable for your actions.
00:50:54When you say you're going to create an accountability, I would say that's probably his biggest weakness
00:50:58is accountability and, and, and responsibility for his own actions.
00:51:02That being said,
00:51:05Was Frank thinking about the bigger picture, more people getting to enjoy hot Thanksgiving
00:51:11food as opposed to.
00:51:15Unfortunately, the sacrificial lamb Fidelberg, one person having his own department.
00:51:18Well, here's what happens is when he got, he probably got in his mind, we have to go,
00:51:22we have to go, we have to go.
00:51:23And James has to be like, I just don't want to hear this yelling anymore.
00:51:27We're going.
00:51:28And, and I don't, yeah.
00:51:30Gents was like, we'll deal with the fucking consequences.
00:51:32I just, I can't be yelled at anymore.
00:51:34Okay.
00:51:35I take back every take I've ever thought about this until I didn't realize this was a Thanksgiving
00:51:39shoot.
00:51:39You don't clean up after Thanksgiving cleanup that comes at the end of the day.
00:51:43If I had known that I thought this was just like your run of the mill tank where he's
00:51:47just throwing in a tablespoon worth of a full fucking thing of accent.
00:51:51It's a Thanksgiving.
00:51:52Yeah.
00:51:52Like someone should have went back.
00:51:54I'm Oh, Steve, do we have the same take?
00:51:57Did you see the final burger?
00:51:59Enjoy this food at the office.
00:52:00No, nobody touched it.
00:52:05Like, we've seen, we've seen the videos.
00:52:07Like, come on.
00:52:09Clemmer almost died from the chip, the rally chili.
00:52:11We were eating during the Mets thing.
00:52:12Like Clemmer was in a bad place.
00:52:13Cause he had a full thing of chili powder in a bowl of chili.
00:52:16I don't know if I want to say this, but it's like the chili powder.
00:52:19So what the measuring thing, it was very funny.
00:52:22Did you see the latest one with the lemon juice?
00:52:24Use about a tablespoon worth of lemon juice.
00:52:27So that means pouring a lot of lemon juice in.
00:52:29So I guess it's more or less a tablespoon.
00:52:42I'm awoke.
00:52:43I think, I think Mr. Tank is getting a little self-aware.
00:52:48I, it was, it was one tablespoon lemon juice and he squeezes the entire thing.
00:52:53Like I, I, this is, this is conspiracy Nate coming out, but I think someone's a little,
00:52:59someone sees how well those clips does.
00:53:01And it was like, I got, got to play the hits.
00:53:05That guy is a hundred percent pure.
00:53:06I can assure you of that.
00:53:09Let's talk really quickly about the movie event of the season, Wicked.
00:53:16Did you guys make it to see it in theaters this weekend?
00:53:19I heard it's excellent.
00:53:21Jeff Delo gave it rave reviews.
00:53:2391 out of a hundred.
00:53:24It's getting low score for him.
00:53:26Reviews across the internet.
00:53:28Shay, you saw it.
00:53:29I'm sure you loved it.
00:53:30What, what were your thoughts?
00:53:32Um, I did, I did see it opening night.
00:53:35Very cool.
00:53:36I haven't, I haven't seen this at all.
00:53:37Very cool.
00:53:38Opening night in a theater sold out theater.
00:53:40It was a good size theater too.
00:53:41So that was cool.
00:53:42You and the lady or the kids or what?
00:53:44Uh, uh, no kids with my wife.
00:53:47Um, she loved it.
00:53:49I hated it.
00:53:50I absolutely hated it.
00:53:53It was way too long.
00:53:55Story was, uh, there are certain parts of the story that, you know, two hours, 40 minutes,
00:54:02you expect everything to be kind of drawn out, fully explained.
00:54:04There is a, I guess you'd call a moment of conflicts in this where it's kind of the,
00:54:09the breaking point, uh, depending, you know, which way the movie goes.
00:54:12That is rushed through, which is crazy for a two hour, 40 minute movie.
00:54:17The songs not great.
00:54:21That the final song was good.
00:54:22And I kind of liked the ending.
00:54:24It is, and it's not a spoiler because the movie is called wicked part one.
00:54:28It's a two part movie.
00:54:29I just learned that.
00:54:30So I read that there's a built-in intermission because the movie is so long.
00:54:35And then I was told that this is only part one of a part movie.
00:54:40Yes.
00:54:41I will probably see part two next year just to get the gist of it.
00:54:44I don't, so I got a lot of heat for my tweet.
00:54:48When going to the movie, say, I didn't know it was a musical.
00:54:51I will clear that up.
00:54:53I did not know the movie was a musical.
00:54:56I knew that it was a play or show or musical of some type in New York.
00:55:01I think I was like around the corner from it, um, for a couple of years.
00:55:04I think it was like 52nd or 53rd and 7th or Broadway or something like that.
00:55:09I was at 54th and 8th and 55th and 9th for years.
00:55:13Uh, so I lived very closely.
00:55:17I walked by the billboard all the time.
00:55:18I did not know what exactly the show was, if it was a musical or a play or show or whatever.
00:55:23It was something Broadway.
00:55:24That's not my scene.
00:55:24I've been to three or four Broadway shows in my life.
00:55:28They're fine.
00:55:30Not for me personally.
00:55:32Going to this movie, I did not realize the movie was going to be musical.
00:55:36I thought it would be a Harry Potter-esque story that was a prequel.
00:55:43But Steven, let me fire back.
00:55:45You can't say the movie is worse based on what you thought it might be.
00:55:51That doesn't change the movie, right?
00:55:53Correct.
00:55:54I just thought the movie stunk.
00:55:55Like I was not really entertained.
00:55:56You didn't downgrade it because it happened to be a musical and you didn't expect it to be.
00:56:00Because like that shouldn't change how good or bad it is.
00:56:04No, this goes off of like how much I liked the movie.
00:56:06I will never see this movie again.
00:56:08It was not enjoyable.
00:56:09The songs weren't good.
00:56:11I do respect Ariana Grande and Cynthia, whatever her name is, because they have very good voices.
00:56:19I thought Ariana Grande had some funny parts.
00:56:22But overall, like not an enjoyable movie.
00:56:25Not for me.
00:56:27What did you score it for?
00:56:294.1 out of 10.
00:56:30The scenery was very nice.
00:56:32I would be surprised if it gets an Oscar for like best
00:56:35cinematography or costumes or one of those kind of BS Oscars
00:56:39that doesn't really have anything to do with the plot or story.
00:56:43What movie is more overrated, Wicked or Oppenheimer?
00:56:48Wicked because 91 out of 100.
00:56:51Also, Dante.
00:56:53Oppenheimer got an 100 out of 100 though.
00:56:55Right.
00:56:55And you hated Oppenheimer.
00:56:57Oppenheimer was good.
00:56:58It was too long.
00:57:00Well, I could not have agreed more when you're like the big conflict was if he gets like his
00:57:04government papers, like who the fuck cares?
00:57:07Like I have that for 90% of the movie.
00:57:09I could not have agreed more with you on that.
00:57:11Like this girl's riding a horse for like a half hour of the movie.
00:57:14And then the big conflict is like, but I'm a government.
00:57:18The rest of it's fine.
00:57:19But I agreed with you on that.
00:57:21I gave it like an 83.
00:57:23See, this is the thing about Steve and Che movie critic.
00:57:26I have to admit it.
00:57:27I have you've done it.
00:57:30I have to like, as soon as I see there was a review, I'm like, I got to hear what Steve
00:57:33has to say about this movie.
00:57:34You are now must watch.
00:57:36Cause I never know.
00:57:36It's going to come out of your mouth, which is like in this day and age is a very important
00:57:40thing.
00:57:40Cause there's so many people that can give you reviews about like, you know, how great
00:57:44the cinematography was and this and that.
00:57:46But it's like, I didn't know it was a musical.
00:57:48I hated the story.
00:57:49I thought it was about the bomb.
00:57:51Without Che does best is, and I think we're all guilty of it.
00:57:54When, you know, something is supposed to be like, let's use Oppenheimer.
00:57:58Like it's supposed to be the greatest movie of all time.
00:58:00Jeff Dee low gave it a hundred out of a hundred.
00:58:01Sometimes you're scared to then give it a lower grade because you just don't want the
00:58:05internet mob.
00:58:06And Che doesn't give a fuck about that.
00:58:08Like, I was scared to say that I gave Oppenheimer an 83 out of a hundred because people are
00:58:14so disrespected by that score.
00:58:16And I was like, I think that's like a pretty good score for that five hour movie.
00:58:20I do.
00:58:21That happened to me with the last Jedi.
00:58:22I remember being like, I hated that movie.
00:58:24Like, what did people, did I watch it?
00:58:25Like, I honestly thought I watched like a different movie.
00:58:26It was like a placebo effect.
00:58:28And then it came out that there was a lot of people hated, but I think a lot of people
00:58:31were kind of scared to say it at first.
00:58:33And then it went the other way where then it just gets review bombed and then like nobody
00:58:36wins, you know, but there's people who still love that movie.
00:58:39There's people who still hate that movie.
00:58:41It's just Stephen Che is our fucking North star.
00:58:44Steve on prime with Aubrey Plaza.
00:58:47It's called my old ass.
00:58:48It's 90 minutes.
00:58:49Fantastic.
00:58:50You'll cry your eyes out, but it's really, really good.
00:58:54Okay.
00:58:54Maybe we'll give it a watch this weekend, but I want to address the two, the two people
00:58:58that have given their takes on this movie.
00:59:01One, Jeff Delo.
00:59:02Very much.
00:59:02I respect him.
00:59:03He's got, for the most part, pretty good taste in movies.
00:59:07Gave it a 91 out of a hundred.
00:59:09That's fine.
00:59:10He does say in his tweet that if you don't like musicals, maybe this is not for you.
00:59:16Fair.
00:59:16I'm not necessarily a big musical person.
00:59:18This movie blatantly not for me.
00:59:21Also Dante, who's going at me online about my score about this.
00:59:25Let me, let me read you the title of his blog and then let me just give one sentence on
00:59:30me.
00:59:30Okay.
00:59:31Gentlemen.
00:59:32I saw wicked the movie last night and it was amazing.
00:59:35Take your wife, your girlfriend, or your daughters to see it this weekend.
00:59:39I'm none of those things.
00:59:40I'm a dude.
00:59:41I'm giving commentary and reviews.
00:59:42This movie stuff.
00:59:43If it was, if it was for me, he would have said you go see it this weekend by yourself.
00:59:48Nope.
00:59:49It's, it's a, I don't want to give the full.
00:59:54I don't want to get canceled, but like, this is, this is not a movie for me.
00:59:56And I understand.
00:59:57I can appreciate it.
00:59:58My wife loved it.
01:00:00You know, that's fine.
01:00:01That this, this movie was not for me.
01:00:04What, what did Dante go at you for?
01:00:08Um, I think, you know, his classic, um, his response to almost all my tweets or posts.
01:00:14Is this serious or is this a joke?
01:00:18Jay, you do leave a little bit of gray matter in it where everyone's like, I don't really
01:00:22know if he's fucking with me or not, but again, that's just, this is, that's, that's
01:00:26why we love you, Jay.
01:00:27That's why I need your reviews.
01:00:29Every time to go, go tell the fellas to see wicked and see how they like it.
01:00:32Gentlemen, take your assistant to football, VP football operations this weekend.
01:00:39Right.
01:00:39It doesn't say that Steve, that is a fair point by you.
01:00:41Right.
01:00:41I also, I want to see it.
01:00:43I've never seen the play or the musical, whatever it is, but I've always wanted to see it.
01:00:47Like I like, I've heard, they kind of give you a different perspective on the wizard
01:00:50about story, which is a classic.
01:00:52Um, but I don't understand how it part one of the movie is the entire length of the play.
01:00:59If you see it live.
01:01:00So that means we have another probably two plus hour movie ahead of us.
01:01:03And I do understand movies are different than plays, but like, we can't just, you know,
01:01:08I'm an old man.
01:01:09I need, you can't, it's hard for me to get to the theater for two and a half hours.
01:01:12I watched too many bad Marvel movies that are that long.
01:01:14I can't do it for them.
01:01:15Like a movie like, I'm going to see it, but, uh, I mean, I'm going to go in with both eyes
01:01:19open.
01:01:19Thanks to Steven.
01:01:20Yeah.
01:01:21Yeah.
01:01:22It's I'd be interested to hear your take one.
01:01:25Okay.
01:01:25I'll give it.
01:01:25I'll give it to you.
01:01:26Bear.
01:01:27That's the one thing I always do.
01:01:28It's true.
01:01:28My opinion.
01:01:29I always just let it be known.
01:01:30I don't care about the end of my movie reviews.
01:01:33I'm not trying to give you, you know, this is going to win the Oscar for this.
01:01:37I mean, I, I will say that if it necessarily deserves, but I'm not coming at it from a,
01:01:41Ooh, who would you, would you perspective?
01:01:43Did I like it?
01:01:44Did I not like it?
01:01:45That's it.
01:01:45That's what you're getting.
01:01:46Yeah.
01:01:47I think that's the best way to review movies.
01:01:49And I know nothing about it.
01:01:50Like, I, I know it's wizard of Oz esque, but that's really the extent that I know.
01:01:55Like I know so little about it that, uh, Monday football's tonight.
01:01:59Right.
01:02:00So maybe, maybe tomorrow.
01:02:04I'll try.
01:02:06And the thing is, I think at this point with the internet, I think people have to just
01:02:09realize like if someone has to take that's their take.
01:02:12I liked, I love it.
01:02:13I wouldn't say I might've loved Oppenheimer.
01:02:15You got to go to yak.
01:02:15Huh?
01:02:16I loved Oppenheimer, but I did not.
01:02:18I hated that other, the Scorsese movie that came out with Leo.
01:02:22You loved it.
01:02:26Some see the dresses blue.
01:02:27Who gives a shit?
01:02:28Right.
01:02:28Let's just move on with our lives.
01:02:31Killers of the flower moon was, uh, like three and a half hours.
01:02:35That movie could have been two 15 and been the same movie.
01:02:38It was a bit long, but I love liberties to shorten it, to be a little bit better for
01:02:43the viewers.
01:02:43Same with a Nora, Nora, Jeff Delos.
01:02:45Tell me it's going to be best picture could have been an hour shorter and been the same.
01:02:50Like that's do a, do a, do a favor to your audience.
01:02:54Okay.
01:02:55How many buckets of popcorn?
01:02:56Last question.
01:02:59Uh, refill after the, towards the end of the preview.
01:03:03So we're about third, 40% of the way done.
01:03:06So, you know, 1.4, 1.35, something like that.
01:03:09Oh, Steven, you had an intermission too.
01:03:10I thought this was going to two hours.
01:03:12No, there's no intermission.
01:03:13No, there's no intermission.
01:03:14Oh, there's no intermission.
01:03:15They're saying the play has an intermission.
01:03:18Oh, I thought they'd put one in the movie too.
01:03:20No, no, no, no, no.
01:03:21It is, it is long and it feels long.
01:03:26All right.
01:03:26That's a good rundown.
01:03:28All right.
01:03:28That's a rundown.
01:03:30Happy Thanksgiving guys.