(Adnkronos) - Adnkronos Q&A: trasformazione digitale, opportunità e rischi legati all'AI; Roma, il Municipio I presenta la Mappa dei servizi per le donne e le ragazze; Turismo delle Origini, a Matera oltre mille persone per Roots-in: cresce il segmento per gli Italiani residenti all'estero; Cyberbullismo, Moige porta in parlamento i giovani ambasciatori contro i rischi del web; Agroalimentare, il roadshow di Bper Banca giunge alla terza tappa; Fair Play Menarini, il 30 novembre a Firenze il talk show 'I Campioni si raccontano'; Sfide e opportunità dell'innovazione digitale con ‘FuturS’, l’evento di Sisal a Roma; Amazon Web Service, dal cloud all'intelligenza artificiale un supporto alla pubblica amministrazione; Anci, PagoPA: nuove funzionalità per avvicinare lo Stato ai cittadini e ottimizzare il PNRR; ANCI, l'INPS sostiene il neo presidente Manfredi "Maggiore collaborazione con i comuni"; Rugby, Alperia top sponsor della Nazionale. La presentazione alla viglia della sfida con gli All Blacks; Cresco Award, premiati i comuni impegnati in progetti per un futuro sostenibile.
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00:00Translated by Elia Pozzani
00:30Translated by Elia Pozzani
01:00Translated by Elia Pozzani
01:30Continuing doubts about the applications of Artificial Intelligence
01:33Between opportunities, new challenges and concrete risks
01:36the business world is facing a revolution
01:39At Palazzo delle Informazioni in Rome
01:41a debate on digital transformation within AI
01:45The new ADN Kronos Q&A meeting
01:48A research we did with LUIS this year
01:51emerged as 65% of the companies interviewed
01:55more than 500
01:56has declared that they don't have a suitable technological infrastructure
02:01for the challenges of AI
02:03so this will be a determining factor
02:05especially for small and medium enterprises
02:08the infrastructural and organisational aspects are important
02:11but the aspects of how to finance investments are even more important
02:15This is not a problem for the most innovative companies
02:19that have already defined AI in a strategic area
02:22and have therefore distanced themselves from budget financing
02:25Among the numerous applications
02:27Artificial Intelligence can be used in the creation of creative content
02:32We don't expect a great contribution of creativity for the moment
02:36but with the appropriate instructions, controls and supervisions
02:40AI helps a lot in the generation of content
02:43of alternative formats that can help on social networks
02:47and on all channels on which content must be published and presented
02:53Artificial Intelligence does not replace man, but supports him
02:57Artificial Intelligence should guarantee us an added value
03:01on what our skills are, on our roles
03:05The world of work is called to become aware of the impacts
03:09that Artificial Intelligence will have on productive and organisational processes
03:13and on the importance of people's appreciation
03:16The challenge in summary is to understand and identify
03:20all the talents and skills to make them harmonious
03:23in the ecology of the system to which they belong
03:26Among the speakers of the Q&A meeting organized by ADN Kronos
03:30also Leonardo, the international industrial group
03:32that performs technological skills in aerospace, defense and security
03:37is currently committed to updating the production processes
03:41and to invest in research and development
03:43playing the role of Open Innovation Hub
03:45with startups, universities and research centers
03:48All this because in this way our company
03:51which is one of the technological assets of the country system
03:56is more competitive and manages to produce on the market
04:00technologically more advanced and safer solutions
04:03also to teach sustainability and security
04:08The first municipality of Rome has presented the mapping of the places
04:11that offer services for women and girls
04:13in order to allow a rapid consultation and identification
04:16of all the services available to women
04:19The mapping offers an effective service for those in need of help
04:22of support in the search for work in the field of female employment
04:25or of solutions related to medical and health problems
04:29as explained by the promoter of the initiative, Daniela Spinaci
04:32President of the Commission for Equal Opportunity of the first municipality of Rome
04:36The mapping that I had in mind
04:41and that has been integrated, supported and elaborated
04:46by several hands within the Commission
04:50aims to give a 360-degree overview of a series of services
04:55So, let's start first of all
04:58with the need to disseminate the national green numbers
05:02that I realized many women and many people do not know
05:06We have given a mapping of all the anti-violence centers
05:11that are present in our territory
05:14If I need an anti-violence center, I click and I find the anti-violence centers of the first municipality
05:19as well as all the sanitary presidiums
05:22that can offer other types of support and services
05:28We have indicated the centers for families
05:32that are those centers that offer parental advice
05:36in support of parents, their children, mostly adolescents and minors
05:41and therefore a very important service
05:43and we have also indicated a center to address female employment and entrepreneurship
05:51At the press conference, the President of the first municipality, Lorenza Bonaccorsi, also took part
05:57First of all, we want to reiterate the fact that the first municipality is on the part of women
06:04in support, above all, against male violence against women
06:11but also to build paths of autonomy, of protection, of autonomy
06:17towards a reappropriation of moments of freedom, of self-determination
06:23Therefore, we all work together so that, as we always say,
06:28we do not remember these things only on November 25
06:32because women are killed every day in our country
06:36The mapping aims to address the need for information of women
06:40also provided by the assessor of social services and equal opportunities of the first municipality of Rome, Claudia Santoloce
06:47One of the needs that came out of the editorial board of the social level
06:52is the need for information
06:54so this simple, concrete and detailed map of all the places of women in the first municipality
07:02becomes the first fundamental piece from which to start for the construction of any type of project
07:09and of help with respect to women
07:1380 million people living abroad, but of Italian origin all over the world
07:18want to travel to know the land from which their family started
07:22Amatera Ruzzi concluded in the international stock market dedicated to the tourism of the origins
07:27the segment of the sector aimed at the children and grandchildren of emigrants
07:30In recent years, in fact, thanks also to the intuition of investing in a dedicated manifestation
07:35an extraordinary increase has been recorded of arrivals from countries with a strong Italian presence
07:40as for example Argentina, it is thought that in the Basilica alone
07:43the increase recorded by the South American country brings a plus 123%
07:47The local agency of territorial promotion, which with the region organizes Ruzzini
07:51in collaboration with Enit and with the sponsorship of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
07:55opened the way to a path that for this third edition involved 13 regions
07:59present every two days together with 155 sellers, 74 buyers and 70 reporters from all over the world
08:06This operation also takes on a double meaning
08:09because in addition to favoring a qualified, experiential and seasonal tourism
08:13can attract the investments of those who return to their homeland
08:16an additional opportunity especially for small villages still outside the already known tourist routes
08:22It is one of the most dense journeys of value and meaning
08:25and Basilicata wanted to present itself in this market
08:29both because for the local people in the world, which are like all other regions of Italy
08:35and because it is a journey that is attentive to the internal areas, to the villages
08:43More than a thousand people have participated in these two days at Ruzzini
08:46between forums, workshops and confrontations between operators
08:49with some musical intermediate such as the show of the comedian Dino Paradiso
08:52for the occasion Matera and Basilicata have confirmed a sharp vocation for welcome
08:57more and more oriented towards a qualified tourist offer
09:00also through its reception structures
09:02In the course of the last day, the last two outings of APT Basilicata have also been presented
09:07Antologia Lucana and Tourism of Passions
09:09the first one for foreign students and the second one dedicated to what is now considered the third tourism
09:15after that of destinations, that of motivation
09:21More than 250 young ambassadors against cyberbullying
09:24gathered today in the House of Representatives
09:27on the occasion of the event Young Ambassadors in Parliament organized by MOIJE
09:31In the course of the morning, students from all over Italy intervened
09:34on the topics of digital transformation, online risk prevention
09:37and the contrast to cyberbullying for safe access to the network
09:41More than 250 young people from all over Italy who have worked with their parents and teachers
09:46to talk about the risks of artificial intelligence but also about the opportunities
09:50the risks of the internet, cyberbullying and all other dangers of the web
09:54and at the same time to ask for opportunities for protection and training
09:59It is a great challenge of social sustainability of artificial intelligence
10:04we are here to talk about it with the world of politics, institutions
10:08with the world of companies, with the world of school
10:13here to talk about these topics, to face them, to find the best solutions
10:19so that the technology, the advancement of all internet solutions
10:25can be tailored to the needs of minors, to the needs of families
10:30Young ambassadors had the opportunity to present their proposals
10:33to face the challenge of the sustainability of the web
10:36in a context of dialogue between young companies and institutions
10:39The safety of minors on the internet is a priority for Google
10:43and for a long time we have started a strong dialogue with MOIJE
10:47On our part, we build platforms designed specifically for minors
10:52without risks compared to the open internet
10:55we give tools to parents to control and guide the online presence of their children
11:01and then, as today with the ambassadors in Parliament
11:04we do great informative and educational campaigns
11:08we have just launched a book by Jeronimo Stilton in collaboration with the Postal Police
11:12to help children and young people to live the best of the internet
11:16always being safe
11:18I have to say it was very exciting to listen to these young people
11:23of different ages, from elementary school to high school
11:28aware and aware that the internet is very useful
11:32but that it is not a measure of a teenager and a child
11:36and therefore they themselves complain about the need
11:40and in some way to self-regulate in this extraordinary world
11:44so congratulations to MOIJE because they are doing an important job
11:48of raising awareness of young people
11:52Agriculture, sustainability and innovation
11:55are the themes at the center of the third stage of the Roadshow
11:58promoted by Biperbanca, dedicated to agri-food
12:01After the stages of Modena and Florence
12:03the event organized in the seat of the University Institute of Higher Studies
12:07U Sapavia, in collaboration with the weekly Ticino
12:11has involved entrepreneurs, institutions, the world of research
12:14and financial institutions in a 360-degree comparison
12:17on the challenges of the sector
12:19It is an important moment because we are going to deal with
12:22one of the most important sectors of our country
12:24because it characterizes and identifies it
12:26that is, the world of agri-food and agriculture
12:28so we are going to deal with what are the potentials of our country
12:33so the fact that Italy is the country of biodiversity and agri-food
12:39but also a country that sees agriculture in a moment of crisis
12:45also due to climate change, due to the economic crisis
12:48and then we try to understand what are the ways to deal with this moment of crisis
12:55so we think about new technologies, scientific research
12:58the fact that through the funds that are given to the new generations
13:02we can think about a future for Italian agriculture
13:05Fundamental for companies is the support of financial instruments
13:08able to help them in the development of their own business
13:12We believe that these are two very important issues
13:15in the evolution of the market
13:18that of sustainability and that of innovation
13:21and we as a bank have all the knowledge and professionalism
13:26to support companies both in terms of activities
13:30and therefore funding that can support innovation
13:34and therefore as innovation we mean technological innovation
13:38and everything that is the world, for example, of artificial intelligence
13:42that is coming.
13:43In addition, we also have a whole series of funding
13:46that follow the bands of sustainability
13:49which are the other big issue that is going through
13:52the evolution of the activities of our companies
13:55also and in particular of agri-business companies.
13:59Biperbanca sees in agri-food a strategic sector to support
14:03The numbers speak for themselves
14:06in terms of employment, agri-food
14:09accounts for 10% of the jobs of our institute of Biperbanca
14:13so obviously in addition to having a positive outlook on the sector
14:18it is also a very important specific weight
14:21moreover, it is a sector that is very attentive
14:24also with the whole discussion of PNRR
14:27here is a moment, an opportunity not to be missed
14:34After the ceremony of the 28th International Fair Play Menarini
14:38of last July 4, the demonstration dedicated to the highest values
14:42of fair and fair sports competition
14:44closes the year with the talk show
14:46I Campioni Si Raccontano
14:47which will be held on Saturday, November 30 at 17
14:50in the Salone dei Cinquecento of Palazzo Vecchio, Florence
14:53and live on Sky.
14:54I Campioni are a megaphone
14:57because they serve to tell their sports stories
15:01but also human stories
15:02and through what they have experienced
15:04this year we will see fantastic stories
15:06of many of the champions that will soon be announced
15:09they tell us not only the importance of sport
15:12but also the importance of the values of sport
15:14clean and correct
15:15and through these values
15:16they convey to society
15:18those that are really the founding pillars
15:21correct that we want to award
15:23and we decided not to do it in conjunction with the award
15:26so in July
15:27but to detach it, to do it in November
15:30to keep high the attention
15:32and the importance of the values
15:33that the Fondazione Fair Play Melanini celebrates.
15:35The protagonists of the talk show will be
15:37Javier Zanetti, Borja Valero, Andrea Zorzi
15:40and Caterina Antropova
15:41Andy Diaz, Fabrizio Donato, Rigivan Ganesha-Murti
15:45Giuliano Razzoli and Federico Buffa
15:47You will never see me
15:49because that evening I will be dancing with the stars
15:51so unfortunately I will not be present
15:54but you will see Javier Zanetti, Borja Valero
15:56a lot of important characters
15:59and this Rigivan
16:01who is an exceptional Olympian
16:04so I think it's a matter of
16:06the ability, the possibility of having a meeting
16:08with these characters
16:10who are part of the history of sport.
16:12They will certainly be very enriching experiences
16:14for everyone
16:15because we will have a way to get in touch
16:18and listen to the sports and extra-sports experiences
16:21of many champions
16:22of different disciplines
16:23who have had different personal and professional stories
16:28and this mix will be the added value
16:31of what we will bring home
16:33at the end of the event
16:34that we will have the opportunity to live together.
16:37Challenges and opportunities related to digital innovation
16:41new dynamics in the production sectors
16:43adequately trained professional figures
16:46to stay on track with the digital transformation
16:49We talked about it in Rome
16:51during the second appointment of Futures
16:53an event organized by CISAL
16:55which has seen the participation of institutions, companies and opinion makers.
16:59Digital infrastructures and data
17:01will be more and more relevant
17:03for the safety and the task of the country
17:05so it will become fundamental to invest in infrastructures
17:08but it becomes even more important
17:10to invest in digital skills.
17:12Italy is one of the last countries
17:14from this point of view in Europe
17:16with about 50% of people
17:18who do not yet have the basic digital skills
17:20we must invest in digital skills
17:23to allow people to be active
17:26and therefore to make the country more competitive
17:28and above all to promote a social inclusion process
17:32giving everyone the opportunity to acquire those skills
17:35that are necessary today
17:36to be active in the job market.
17:38Skills that CISAL has provided to its people
17:41through an open and inclusive training
17:43that allows them not only to acquire useful skills for the company
17:47but to be even more suitable for the job market.
17:51We then worked to build a widespread model
17:54on the territory of digital skills
17:56therefore adding our hubs in Milan, Rome and Turin
18:00also hubs in Naples, Palermo.
18:02To promote the development of digital skills
18:05CISAL has launched a series of collaborations
18:07with the academic world.
18:08An example is the partnership with the Politecnico di Torino
18:11for the development of the master's degree
18:13at the second level Humanize
18:15which allows people with humanistic skills
18:18to also acquire digital and technological skills
18:21creating hybrid personal figures
18:24that today are extremely relevant
18:26and that are not available on the job market.
18:28Looking at the trajectories outlined
18:30by the 2030 digital decade of the European Union
18:33our country still shows a strong disharmony
18:36in digital investments
18:38with PMIs clearly behind the big companies.
18:42A topic related to those people and skills
18:45and also of program management
18:47as it is usually said in this profession
18:49that can help the municipalities
18:51in the implementation of these projects.
18:53Why?
18:54Because basically when you have a plan
18:56the important plan is relevant
18:58but then you have to implement it.
19:00The funds are obviously important
19:02but very often they are much more strategic
19:06than the type of resources available
19:09as human capital.
19:10Here, on this part
19:11I think we still have to make important steps forward.
19:15Supporting the Italian municipalities
19:17in the transition to the cloud
19:18and promoting the use of artificial intelligence
19:20for public administration
19:22are some of the goals of Amazon Web Services
19:25illustrated in the context of the annual
19:27ANCI meeting in Lingotto, Torino.
19:29There is certainly a theme of skills
19:31technological skills, process skills
19:34and another absolutely very important theme
19:37for the administrations
19:39is that related to security, reliability
19:43and the response to the requirements of digital sovereignty.
19:46On this we are working in close contact
19:49with the administrations.
19:50On the first theme in particular
19:52we are working with many administrations
19:54to help them build a path
19:56of qualification and re-qualification
19:58on the subject of digital
20:00and the use of cloud technologies.
20:02At the same time, we have always been working
20:05on the subject of security
20:07thanks also to our over 140 certifications
20:10in terms of security
20:12both infrastructure and digital technologies.
20:15On the subject of artificial intelligence
20:17there is a strong interest from the public administration
20:20as a development prospect
20:22and as a tool to provide better services to the citizen.
20:26We recently completed an investigation
20:29on over 1,000 Italian administrations.
20:3298% of the interviewees
20:34know and already use
20:36artificial intelligence tools
20:38and almost 80%
20:40considers artificial intelligence
20:42as essential
20:44to provide better services to the citizen
20:46in the next five years
20:48in the Italian public administration.
20:50We are seeing a very strong demand for cloud in Italy.
20:54We have started a path
20:56that led us at the beginning of 2020
20:58to open for the Italian region
21:00our digital infrastructure
21:03We have announced
21:05a further investment of 1.2 billion euros
21:09that will have an impact on the Italian GDP
21:13estimated at about 880 million euros
21:16and will create over 5,500 new jobs
21:20in the next five years.
21:24Innovation in the service of citizens
21:26and local administrations.
21:28And this is the key message
21:30that Pago.pa has brought
21:32to the 41st Anci Assembly
21:34in Lingottofiere, Turin.
21:36Among the most relevant news
21:38is the presentation of the Single Sign-On functionality
21:41for the App.io.
21:43We are presenting a new App.io functionality
21:45that allows all public entities
21:47both the central ones
21:49and of course the local ones
21:51and therefore the municipalities.
21:53We are here as guests of Anci
21:55to deliver their own digital public services
21:57directly within the App
21:59adapting the websites
22:01that are already available
22:03to the citizens.
22:05But the really important thing
22:07about this innovation
22:09is that millions of people
22:11who already use App.io
22:13will be able, without having to authenticate themselves,
22:16to find in the App
22:18the services of their region,
22:20of their municipality
22:22even when they have to compete
22:24for these services
22:26in response to the needs of the citizens.
22:28The strategic partner of Pago.pa
22:30is Alessandro Moricca,
22:32the sole administrator of the company,
22:34underlining the importance
22:36of the meeting with the municipalities
22:38within the Anci Assembly
22:40and the solutions presented
22:42that allow to improve
22:44the efficiency of public administration
22:46by promoting a digital transition
22:48that is inclusive
22:50and able to respond
22:52to the most varied needs.
22:54It is very important for us
22:56to work with the municipalities
22:58to present our platforms,
23:00to present what has been done
23:02and what can be done,
23:04especially from the perspective of the PNRR
23:06that still has a year and a half of life.
23:08What we present here at Anci
23:10is mainly
23:12how to improve the services.
23:14Almost 8,000 municipalities
23:16in Italy,
23:18almost all of them,
23:20except a few,
23:22join Pago.pa
23:24but the access of the platforms
23:26is not always uniform.
23:28For example,
23:30on the Pago.pa payment platform
23:32the access is about 60%
23:34for example for a service
23:36such as road sanctions
23:38or on SEND
23:40it is only 20%.
23:42Our goal is to raise these figures
23:44to fully realize
23:46the objectives of the PNRR.
23:48Strengthening
23:50the collaboration with Anci
23:52The new President Gaetano Manfredi
23:54and the message launched by the IMS
23:56present at the Annual Assembly
23:58of the Italian Municipal National Association
24:00in Lingotto, Turin.
24:02I congratulate the new President of Anci,
24:04Gaetano Manfredi.
24:06He binds us to an ancient friendship and esteem
24:08and therefore we will certainly strengthen
24:10the collaborations with the municipalities
24:12in favor of the territory,
24:14in favor of all citizens.
24:16The IMS is primarily
24:18to improve and contextualize
24:20the services of all citizens.
24:22This will happen through
24:24a tangible and concrete collaboration
24:26with the municipalities.
24:28The services are at the center
24:30of the objectives of the core business.
24:32We will do it through a generative welfare
24:34that I am bringing forward more and more.
24:36A welfare that personalizes
24:38the services during the lifecycle
24:40of all people,
24:42intervening during the need
24:44that arises.
24:46In addition to being present
24:48to provide information and consulting,
24:50the IMS has organized two meetings
24:52dedicated to the commitment to gender violence
24:54and to the alliance with the municipalities
24:56for the support of young people and families.
24:58The IMS is always present
25:00where there are great issues of innovation
25:02for Italy, where there are
25:04meetings and debates
25:06with the main actors
25:08of welfare policies in Italy.
25:10We believe more and more
25:12that an administration is necessary
25:14without silos, an administration
25:16that, by reducing the stakes
25:18of individual competences,
25:20collaborates and makes more and more
25:22teams to be able
25:24to meet the needs of citizens
25:26and reduce the barriers
25:28of social
25:30and territorial differences.
25:34Presented at the Allianz Stadium
25:36in Turin, the new partnership
25:38between Federazione Italiana Rugby
25:40and Alperia on the eve of the test
25:42match between the Italian national team
25:44and the All Blacks of New Zealand.
25:46The agreement presented by the Federal President
25:48Andrea Duodo and by the CEO
25:50of Alperia, Luis Amort,
25:52sees the largest provider of energy services
25:54in the Alto Adige and one of the
25:56largest Italian companies in the sector
25:58of Green Energy become the top sponsor
26:00of the Nationali Signores,
26:02bringing the Alperia logo on the training material
26:04of Azzurre, Azzurri and Azzurini
26:06under 20. The collaboration
26:08will see Alperia also committed
26:10in the role of official Green Energy Partner
26:12of the FIR, providing the Citadella
26:14of Parma Rugby and the regional committees
26:16energy from renewable sources
26:18in an approach to promoting
26:20sustainability. We have seen
26:22a particular coincidence between
26:24the values of the Rugby National
26:26and our values in
26:28innovation, I speak of sustainability,
26:30I speak of proximity
26:32and other values.
26:34For us it is an important
26:36opportunity
26:38to be known throughout Italy.
26:40We are our roots
26:42and our seed in the province
26:44of Bolzano and we have
26:46a few years ago decided to expand
26:48also outside the province
26:50to be able to be a partner
26:52of the Rugby National
26:54and for us it is a great opportunity
26:56to be accompanied and to be able to accompany
26:58this beautiful team.
27:00For us it is very important to have
27:02Italian companies that support our movement
27:04and our national.
27:06Entering a stadium like this
27:08I think it is an emotion,
27:10having such an important event
27:12I think it is the crowning
27:14of any sporting reality.
27:16It is a very difficult
27:18match,
27:20a very iconic team
27:22known all over the world
27:24and having a new partner
27:26that gives us a hand,
27:28certainly supports us,
27:30it is a great thing.
27:32Awarded the winners
27:34of the ninth edition of
27:36the Gresco Award Città Sostenibili,
27:38the contest promoted by
27:40Fondazione Sodalitas with
27:42the sponsorship and collaboration of ANCI,
27:44which recognizes the commitment of the Italian
27:46municipalities for the sustainable development
27:48of the territories in line with the
27:50objectives of the UN Agenda 2030.
27:52The awards were given to
27:54the Association of Winning Municipalities
27:56in the course of a ceremony held
27:58at the Lingotto Center of Turin
28:00in the field of the ANCI Annual Assembly.
28:02This is a project
28:04that has collected more than 800 municipalities
28:06and around 6,060 projects.
28:08These years of work
28:10have delivered
28:12a very rich and
28:14interesting archive of initiatives.
28:16Our future is a future
28:18that is rich in technological discontinuity,
28:20which poses a whole
28:22series of great opportunities,
28:24but also of great
28:26problems. The need to
28:28face them with a strong
28:30public-private synergy
28:32and a more and more
28:34sustainable orientation.
28:36Five awards
28:38of Fondazione Sodalitas,
28:40awarded by an independent jury
28:42to the municipalities of San Possidonio,
28:44Modena Province, Fermignano,
28:46Pesaro-Urbino Province, Qualdo-Tadino,
28:48Perugia Province, Spezia and Milan.
28:5025 projects of local entities
28:52awarded by a group of companies
28:54associated with Fondazione Sodalitas
28:56and partners of the initiative.
28:58We have made a project
29:00that is really a philosophy
29:02of a larger project
29:04called Spezia Green,
29:06which touches the various sectors
29:08of life, from waste management
29:10to mobility. We have a sea to protect
29:12so that together
29:14we can live in a
29:16more modern, more sustainable city
29:18with real attention
29:20to the quality of life
29:22and people. Our project
29:24is called Fermignano 2030,
29:26from sustainability to social inclusion.
29:28It was the first time that our administration
29:30participated in the Cresco Award
29:32and we put it as a bet
29:34together with my colleagues and collaborators.
29:36Within a few months we have received
29:38two Cresco Awards,
29:40a GSE award at the national level
29:42for this ability to have revolutionized
29:44energy consumption
29:46and above all the exploitation of other alternative sources
29:48to feed our structures
29:50and refinance with everything
29:52we have had in the past, the social.
29:58Fermignano www.fermignano.com