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00:00He deserved it now back to Stiney and guru on 95 7 the game
00:07Study guru with you
00:10Warriors heat tonight. Ah, he coming off a double overtime thriller
00:16Kings have now won five in a row under Doug Christie. Yeah, I
00:21You know to that point
00:24So does that mean Mike Brown was a problem because I feel like that's so unfair
00:28And we see this in sports a lot when you fire a coach the team, you know, they get hot
00:33I'm not saying I know I just know Mike Brown was coach of the year
00:37Flavor of the month and he had the Kings like Nabim and now he's gone and all of a sudden you're right
00:44They came back without Fox yesterday. That was a great game
00:47But I'm just asking you does that tell you on the Stiney compute radar that he was the problem
00:53You know goo. I like to not talk in absolutes
00:58Vodka, so when you say
01:01Sorry now, do you believe he was the problem? Right? I would say he clearly was part of the pride
01:08Okay, so then the fire was justified if your coach is part of the problem. I'm just yeah things change well and
01:16He was calling out Fox, you know, and in the podium and the postgame and I don't know if that's good recipe
01:23Um
01:25Tim Kuhn is a writer who works for ESPN a longtime writer for the San Francisco Chronicle and
01:33author of several books Bay Area guy and
01:37he wrote a
01:39very compelling story that appeared on ESPN today about Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors and
01:48Even though we've been talking about the Warriors for you know months and months and months about where they are and where they might be
01:54going
01:56Tim Kuhn like he can do just absolutely nailed it with a lengthy piece and
02:04It can all be boiled down to one
02:07One phrase and he says the Warriors right now are involved in a paradox and it's this hmm. They're determined
02:14and
02:15This is what he based this whole store not based but this is a big theme of the story
02:20To his to his way of thinking he says the Warriors are determined to use Steph Curry
02:25less than ever at a time when the team needs him the most and
02:35That's the way he sees it and
02:37It's it's just very interesting. And here's how I'll get the conversation started is
02:43the idea of
02:45Steph's window being the most important aspect of where the Warriors are right now. I mean Tim
02:53chronicled
02:54So there were so many instances and quotes from Warriors and Steve Kerr and Steph Curry
03:01It is amazing what the Warriors are doing behind the scenes
03:05to
03:06keep curry
03:09Functional and and at his best. Yeah, I Steph Curry basically
03:15Said yeah, he's not really sure how much he's gonna play every game that the team
03:21Determines that the team kind of determines when he will play and what he won't play
03:26Sometimes he sees that there's there's wiggle room. So that's when he tries tries to self-advocate
03:32but
03:34essentially
03:36The Warriors, you know, I've doubled down on they
03:40Yes, they're do they're trying to do everything and anything to get Steph Curry and Draymond their fifth titles and
03:49Tim asked the very
03:52Poignant question of can they really do that? Can they really get another title while they're
04:00playing Steph Curry less and less and less and less and it's right like that's the part that I
04:06Kind of don't see either. I
04:09Don't see how you can get back to being a championship team
04:14With Steph playing less and less and less now
04:19And a great piece and I hear you talking Stani
04:22but let just help me out because
04:24From my vantage point when I watch the games and I watch the Warriors play every game every minute
04:30I don't feel like I'm watching them in regard to minute wise play less
04:34He's averaging 31 minutes this season, so I feel like from that standpoint
04:40I'm getting the same Steph experience that I've gotten before now with the bilateral knee tendinitis and both knees or what-have-you
04:47That was the report. I
04:49Do see back-to-backs that he's not playing but I do kind of understand that at his age
04:55But Stani I'll never get mad at the Warriors for what they're trying to do and they might come up short
05:01And right now they need an influx of offensive talent to help Steph Curry and his longevity
05:08Has been great up into this point, but when I watch these games
05:12The ones that he's playing in I still feel like I'm getting my fix of Steph for 30-plus minutes
05:18I mean, he's playing 31 minutes a night, but that would be the least amount of minutes
05:23He's ever played in a year where he's been healthy essentially. So
05:28He's been healthy and he's playing less than ever and
05:33So, how do you and
05:35He's not gonna
05:37the other thing the story had was how
05:40Steve Kerr acknowledged that a big part of his job
05:43Like think about this big part of his job big part of Steve Kerr's job according to Steve Kerr is
05:50Making sure not to run Steph Curry into the ground
05:53Like Steve Kerr said that is essentially one of the job
05:59Requirements when they play 35, he's played 28. So he's missed seven. He's so he's missed seven
06:04He's missed 20% of the season and he's only playing 31 minutes a night
06:11again, the question then becomes
06:14how do you get Steph his fifth title if he continues to play fewer and fewer minutes and
06:21All I'm saying is after getting done with the story you kind of realize
06:27You know, are they are they pushing a rock up a hill that they're never
06:32Where they're never gonna get to the top. Well, they're never it's not get to the top
06:36Just hearing you say that right now today without making the move
06:40It feels that way right and it feels like the rocks coming down the wrong way
06:45Wouldn't you say would you give me that right now if they don't make a move this team?
06:49That's the way it's assembled. They're the rocks coming downhill and soon enough
06:55It'll be on top of you and there'll be nothing to see here. Yeah, I don't want to get into
06:59If I agree with that or not
07:01I would say the Rocks been in the same place for two and a half years
07:04Would you agree that they're trying to make a move though?
07:06Yeah, yeah, but but what like I look at this team and say for the last two and a half years
07:12They can't they haven't really moved the rock. I
07:16Don't think they've really moved the rock
07:19You know if in 2022 they won their fourth title and then at that point the goal became let's get Steph number five
07:27The rock is still the rock has actually come down
07:30Right, right because their chances are probably less than they were right after the championship season
07:37But now they're more open now and they're saying it out loud
07:40So I need to where they're trying to go get somebody to bring in here
07:44Quote-unquote a big boy
07:46So but we don't know what that's that that person's out there or if it is can you can you make it happen?
07:53So that that's exciting and frustrating at the same time because this warrior team I'm looking at this currently 18 and 17
08:00You got a Miami Heat team that played double overtime last night with no Jimmy Butler
08:06Normally, I'm like the Warriors are gonna cook them. I'm so nervous about tonight
08:10I don't know what's going to happen. But Stani the bigger point and read this story is
08:16They're trying there. I know as you could say it's lip service goo, but they're trying their damnness
08:22Their darn is to get Steph help and we talked about Bosa not lightweight help big help
08:28And if that cost you cominga Wiggins, I don't know who Stani like
08:34I'm all-in as a fan like I am all-in and and if it's over in the championship days, right?
08:40I'm getting nervous that the playoff days might be over because if somehow this season goes left and a comingas
08:47You know, they're going to miss him and that's just starting like my god
08:52this would be two seasons in a row to where the Golden State Warriors a
08:57Dynasty have not qualified for the playoffs two years in a row and for the last six. Yeah
09:03It would be for the last six. They didn't make the playoffs
09:07And
09:08Steps answering the last thing at the podium. He said the other day use he said they weren't built to come back
09:16Then the other day you and Evan did a show I was listening to ask him a question at the post game
09:21And he's doing this
09:22You you could just hear his his hands on the desk like he had no answer
09:31But here's the other thing now we've heard let's let's
09:35Let's be honest about this to the big-game hunting
09:40They're going big-game hunting. Okay, let's take a look at now what we know
09:47Lakob called LeBron like called the Lakers about LeBron last year. They told him to pound rock. Okay
09:53They ostensibly went after Paul George. They didn't get Paul George
09:58They allegedly went after Lowry marketing. They didn't get Lowry marketing now
10:04I'm
10:05Convinced they're not gonna get Jimmy Butler. Why?
10:09It's not a coincidence that three major writers to me in the last week have written
10:16About how Jimmy Butler probably won't be coming to the Warriors that tells me the Warriors have sent out the signal that a Butler trade
10:24Is really really gonna be difficult or it's either gonna be so difficult
10:29They can't do it or they just don't want to do it. But it's it's not a coincidence that
10:35Kawakami Sam Amick and Anthony Slater all wrote about
10:40Start like stop thinking about Jimmy Butler. Okay, even though the heater in town that gets me nervous now
10:46I see Mark Spears of
10:48the undefeated writing that
10:51landscape also or both
10:54He's right you saying Zion Williamson is not on the Warriors right here, okay, he's not on so what are we whatever yeah
11:02What's the target exactly like I'm nervous like it's drying up. There are no fish in the sea
11:08big fish well
11:11Why did
11:13like
11:15Why does Joe Lacob say we're going big-game hunting, but then every time the next sentence is but trades are hard
11:22Like he set up a dynamic where it
11:26Kind of did make it sound like it was really really feasible
11:29To get somebody in here to play along Steph and I think what we're finding out is they can't they just can't they can't do
11:36It do you get any credit for saying or even trying? No, in fact, I think I take credit away from you
11:44You're listening to 95 7 the game KGM Z FM and HD 1 San Francisco
11:48Always live on the free Odyssey app twitching YouTube powered by first NorCal credit. Yeah, I am worried Stani
11:55I really am I'm looking at New Orleans, and I don't know if greens in trouble Willie green the head coach, but
12:01Outside and I would not want Zion. I believe that body is just is not
12:06It's just not gonna hold up for him, but at the end of the day is that Brandon Ingram?
12:11Is he gonna be that that guppy? That's a big fish
12:13I don't know, but I'm getting nervous in warrior land study that that the fish that you need is not in the water
12:20well, and listen to this quote from Mike Dunleavy and
12:27This is the one that that that gets me Mike Dunleavy said
12:32He was talking about curry. He says Mike Dunleavy said it's scary to think what comes after this
12:39You have to approach it like there might not be a next year
12:45Wow that that was cryptic to me. Well see to me. It wasn't cryptic
12:50That sounds like we could trade Steph. Well. It sounds like Steph has indicated to the Warriors man
12:57Something more strongly than we thought okay, because why would Mike Mike Dunleavy?
13:02It's scary to think what comes after this meaning after Steph
13:07Now you have to approach it like there might not be a next year
13:11So you're going all-in all I'm saying is
13:15it sounds to me like if the Warriors can't pull something off right now and
13:21This season why would Mike Dunleavy say we have to treat it like?
13:27This may be this there there might not be a next year
13:34Like that we're smart enough to know what that means man. Well apparently not because
13:40Like he's being transparent is all-out doors with that one
13:44The chef is not happy and we saw that Stiney in Vegas when he said what he said about things changing the NBA
13:50And I'm not trying to make stuff up
13:53Do you think Steph Curry wants to end up regardless of where you think he's at?
13:57I think he's got more left than a lot of people do but Stiney
14:01It's about him being in a position or a situation to where it's not all on him and right now
14:08It is here, and I'm just wondering him licking his own mortality
14:12Like how fun is it driving to the arena and now we got the leader of your team saying the team is not built to
14:19Come back. That's the shot at the bosses to me
14:23We're not built to come, but was when did that happen?
14:27It's obvious isn't it they can't they're not a great scoring team
14:31And they don't have a lot of scoring kind of like I get people are up in arms about it
14:37But they're not cannot like a running football team's not a great comeback listen
14:42This is our show man, and I'm half of it
14:45And I'm telling you really how I feel and I don't care. I'll take the smoke and the people can get mad
14:52But Stiney these are the chickens that are coming home to roost
14:56When you sent Jordan Poole up out of here and pick Draymond Green this he is the exact
15:04Type of player that would be perfect not fix all what else you but Jordan Poole?
15:11She's still being a warrior uniform and the the skill set
15:15He had would benefit the team that we're watching right now and the more I think about why he's out of here
15:22And what went down?
15:24Maybe there is truly no coming back from that and when you I learned this from you
15:28There's a price of a dynasty and sometimes. It's natural right you this is just what it is
15:34But what I'm starting to read
15:36And I don't like is Steph Curry is not happy with a goo if we don't make the playoffs two years in a row
15:42This is not how I envision
15:44Where I'm at in my career where I still got something left
15:48To for it to be what this is right now Stiney that wasn't he said maybe there's can you read the quote one more time?
15:55for me
15:57The quote is
16:00It's
16:02Scary to think about what comes after this now you have to approach it like there might not be a next year
16:09Like that's just not a good position for a team
16:12Forget Steph Curry to be in trades are hard Wow
16:15It's just it's Wow I mean that does make it sound like if we don't
16:21Yes, you know things don't work out. Well this year like Steph's really gonna be pushed
16:27Yeah, I mean you know when you say the chickens are coming home the roost I I don't just put it on pool
16:33I think you know chickens are coming home the roost for Wiseman
16:36chickens are coming home the roost because you gave Draymond an extension preaching now chickens are coming home to roost because of the
16:44Aprons in the NBA that
16:46Basically the you know the second apron was the reason that the Warriors had to give up Chris Paul and not get anything in return
16:53Do you have a problem with me?
16:55Just hearing that sound bite, and I know Kaminga cannot be traded now
16:58I mean he can but he's he's hurt and the team misses him, but when I hear that Stiney
17:03I believe Kaminga could have been dangled if they found a target
17:08Especially filling the pressure from Steph if they thought that that that guy let's just say Jimmy Butler type
17:16If Kaminga was part of a package that could get you that guy they would do it
17:20I didn't think that a week ago, but hearing and reading that there's no doubt though
17:25They're at Malcolm X by any means necessary
17:28Well if they traded Kaminga
17:30Let's say I they wouldn't come out and say we're trading Kaminga for a veteran because of Steph Curry
17:35They would also trade him because they don't want to pay him right the Warriors don't want to pay him
17:39Let's go to Pat and Foster City. Hey Pat. How you doing, man? What's going on?
17:45Hey, thanks for taking the call. Yeah, you know I think that I guess first of all that quote
17:51You could I could take it a little different way
17:53I can take that quote that you just mentioned it in the context of
17:57If we make some trade and we give up a lot of young players and a lot of good talent
18:01You try to bring in a big name like a butler or someone and we go bust
18:07Where are we at next year?
18:08So I could take it that way too, so I don't I'm not disagreeing with your interpretation
18:13Oh, I got surely
18:14But I think you could take it a little differently like if you know we roll the dice and go for broke and
18:19We may end up with nothing anyway
18:21So nothing this year and nothing in the future
18:23But the main reason I was calling you know and I've been saying this for a while now that I think
18:28The best way to get Steph a fifth ring is to trade them to a team that can win the championship this year
18:35That's that's the way to get Steph a title and and I think help the Warriors at the same time
18:40And you know maybe they you know
18:43Make a big blockbuster trade and trade green and curry
18:47Maybe to the same team since they love to play together, and there's some synergy there
18:51You know I don't know what we could get back, but you got to believe we'd get back a lot for those two players
18:57May help their career and really set the Warriors up going forward not this year
19:02But maybe in the next couple years with the young talent. They have and what they might get back, so
19:06You know I I you know I I was the season ticket holder for the Giants for years
19:11And I remember toward the end of Barry Bonds's era it was basically Barry Bonds
19:16And you know eight eight bozos basically you just went to watch Bonds hit two home runs
19:22And the Giants would lose eight to two because he had that's all they had they had nothing else
19:27You know and that doesn't do it's not any good
19:30It's fun to watch Bonds hit home run just like it's great to see Steph hit threes
19:34But if you're losing all the time you know I'd rather see the team win, so that's my my take on
19:40I love Steph. I'm not a big green fan. I haven't been forever, but
19:44And I hate to see him go, but it might might be doing everybody a favor, so that's kind of my take
19:49Yeah, it feels uh and thanks for the call Pat. It's uncomfortable as a fan
19:53I know you're probably looking at me laughing Stani that might be too heavy it really is man
19:58Because I'm looking at what I think is the chessboard and there's a reality that
20:03That if they can't give Steph what he wants or even get remotely close to get to the tournament
20:11he could go somewhere else and be a lot closer and
20:15And that would mean his tenure here as a warrior is over and
20:18Nobody wants that yeah, you know the other thing is I mean the other thing that's going on is
20:25We've got to pretend
20:27We're not pretend we've got to realize that Steph knows exactly what's going on
20:32And I think sometimes we have a tendency to think well if the Warriors don't do well this year
20:39Then this summer Steph's going to do it's already started
20:42He's gone to mid. The dialogue has already started
20:47but clearly between Steph and and the
20:50Organization and when he comes to that game about 9 45 or 10 o'clock his podium games Donny
20:55He's saying things in a way that you never heard him say
21:00He referred to the team as is mid and and again
21:03I keep I'm fixated on we're not built to come back, but I'm like damn and the
21:10You
21:12Know the other thing is is
21:15Curry's acknowledging that he can't do like listen to this quote from Steph
21:20He was talking about his game, and how he but is that a curry about his game is that an every night thing maybe not
21:26But it's picking and choosing your spots
21:29Like he he knows that he can't he needs help when he's not yeah, I got you Superman can't show up all the time
21:38So what do you do when Superman shows up half the time hopefully you have Iron Man you have Robin you have but you have
21:45Thor but I have something but are you really going anywhere if
21:49Steph
21:51Acknowledges that that you know he's he's only gonna be able to do it one out of two two out of three three out of
21:58five
21:59You know something like that. I mean what?
22:03What do you do then what do you do then?
22:07I don't know, but the story really put into practice kind of what the Warriors must be looking at with Steph Curry and
22:16This this needle that they've been trying to thread for two or three years
22:21They're still trying to thread it, and I don't I don't I don't envy Mike Dunleavy at all Stiney
22:26He he came to this thing and he's been around the organization
22:30But I can see why Myers left and I know he left for different reasons
22:34But Stiney this thing this this has all the this is messy, and it could get way worse
22:39You know yeah, and it certainly can it's it's it got worse Sunday night losing to Sacramento without Fox by 30