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190 Million Pound Case Decision postponed for third time... What's The Real Reason? Muhammad Malick
"We Never Imagined that Imran Khan could also Engage in Negative Remarks" Irfan Siddiqui's Statement
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- Sheikh Waqas Akram PTI
190 Million Pound Case Decision postponed for third time... What's The Real Reason? Muhammad Malick
"We Never Imagined that Imran Khan could also Engage in Negative Remarks" Irfan Siddiqui's Statement
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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Muhammad Malik.
00:16The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
00:21Trust case, has been postponed once again.
00:23The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
00:30Trust case, has been postponed once again.
00:33The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
00:38Trust case, has been postponed once again.
00:40The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
00:45Trust case, has been postponed once again.
00:47The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
00:52Trust case, has been postponed once again.
01:22The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
01:29Trust case, has been postponed once again.
01:32The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
01:38Trust case, has been postponed once again.
01:41The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
01:47Trust case, has been postponed once again.
01:50The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
01:57Trust case, has been postponed once again.
02:00The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
02:06Trust case, has been postponed once again.
02:09The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
02:15Trust case, has been postponed once again.
02:18The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
02:24Trust case, has been postponed once again.
02:27The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
02:33Trust case, has been postponed once again.
02:36The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
02:42Trust case, has been postponed once again.
02:45The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
02:51Trust case, has been postponed once again.
02:54The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
03:00Trust case, has been postponed once again.
03:03The decision once again, the £190 million case, which is known as the Al-Qaeda University
03:09Trust case, has been postponed once again.
03:13Where is the government?
03:15Senator Irfan Siddiqui has joined us in this program.
03:18He is a spokesperson, especially for the Government Negotiating Committee.
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06:16I am speaking as a Muslim.
06:19and this discussion has become an exercise.
06:23And do you remember, last time when there was a tweet
06:27about Prime Minister Ardali and Asim Muneer,
06:33he said that this is no longer the case.
06:36Irfan sahib, is there any atmosphere left of the discussion?
06:41Seriously, the discussions are in their own place.
06:43But this snake of the ashes, this gossip,
06:46these hypocrites, is there anything left?
06:50Hasn't this proof been exhausted?
06:55Thank you very much, Malik.
06:56It is a great pleasure to talk to you.
06:59You spoke in great detail in your discussion
07:03and the statements of the leaders on both sides,
07:09it seems to me that the kind of atmosphere we need
07:14for discussions, for a result-oriented dialogue,
07:20we are not getting that.
07:22There is confusion from our side as well as from the other side.
07:27And we both committees are sitting in the middle.
07:30But you will definitely note one thing,
07:33that almost all of the members of their committee are very vocal.
07:39And this confusion is happening in their hands as well.
07:43Let alone big-sized cannons,
07:46there are some machine guns,
07:48some autofire is also happening from there.
07:50It is not happening from our side.
07:52The members of our committee,
07:55almost all of them are silent in this matter.
07:59If I speak, it is an obligation to the extent of translation.
08:02And when you call me, I have to come.
08:05But I also try that there is no confusion.
08:08This is one thing.
08:09The second thing is that the initiator of this,
08:13let's leave the background,
08:15the initiative of these discussions
08:18has been taken from Mr. Khan.
08:21Mr. Khan made a committee,
08:23that committee contacted the Speaker,
08:25he spoke in the House,
08:27he told the Speaker to call the government,
08:29to make a committee,
08:30we want to talk.
08:31The Speaker contacted the government,
08:33a committee was formed,
08:35the discussion started.
08:37So, from where it started,
08:39it is their heavy responsibility
08:41that the initiative they have implemented,
08:45should be taken forward as much as possible.
08:48Now there are two levels or three levels of leaders.
08:52There are leaders in the first row,
08:54who are speaking from our side,
08:56but one is Mr. Khan's own self,
08:59and his own status.
09:01Just like in our country,
09:03the Prime Minister,
09:05or the head of the Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif Party,
09:08or Mr. Zardari,
09:09or Mr. Bilawal Bhutto,
09:11if a statement comes from any of them,
09:13then it will be very damaging.
09:15Whether it is Mr. Asif,
09:17or Mr. Asad Qaiser,
09:18or Mr. Umar Ayub's statements,
09:20they do not hurt,
09:23which a big leader,
09:25or a head of the party,
09:27would say.
09:28And the reference you gave,
09:30and the word you used,
09:32which I despise a lot,
09:34during the discussions,
09:36and the discussions that were not imposed on you,
09:39you yourself,
09:40with your own will,
09:41with your own thinking,
09:42and with your own practical wisdom,
09:44started,
09:45in those discussions,
09:47you say,
09:48this is Ardali,
09:49this is Asim Munir,
09:50this is Yakhsha Khan,
09:52this is Scooter Dhaka.
09:54At least,
09:55I am unable to understand,
09:57Mr. Malik,
09:58why did they do this?
09:59What is the reason for this?
10:01So anyhow,
10:02the reference you gave,
10:04in the beginning,
10:05we had decided,
10:06that we will ignore the outside,
10:08or the rumours,
10:10or the statements,
10:12or the decisions of the courts,
10:14that we will ignore them,
10:16and move forward.
10:18But this did not mean,
10:19at least in my mind,
10:21when I was writing this,
10:23that this statement,
10:24can come from Mr. Khan as well.
10:26In our mind,
10:27it was that,
10:28these leaders,
10:29these politicians,
10:30will do something.
10:31So,
10:32it is a regretful thing.
10:33This should not happen.
10:35If we are sitting,
10:37then we should understand,
10:39each other's status,
10:41each other's feelings,
10:43emotions,
10:44and move forward.
10:46The person,
10:47who has made a committee,
10:49and we are the representatives,
10:51if you call that a committee,
10:53then what will they give you?
10:55This is a regretful situation.
10:57Tell me,
10:58they have also said that,
11:00if the commission is not formed,
11:02in the next sitting,
11:04then this discussion will end.
11:06So,
11:07what is your strategy?
11:09If this is decided there,
11:11that,
11:12after this session,
11:14the commission will be formed,
11:16that,
11:17after this session,
11:19they will have to guarantee,
11:21that we will have a good negotiation.
11:23That,
11:24you will also be ready.
11:26That day,
11:27you will also announce,
11:29that this is not happening today.
11:31Then,
11:32we are also not interested in moving forward.
11:34Anyway,
11:35that day,
11:36if they want,
11:37that,
11:38if the third meeting,
11:39is decided on 16th,
11:40then,
11:41on 16th,
11:42at 11 o'clock,
11:43if they bring their demands,
11:45their applications,
11:47and distribute them,
11:49among our 8-9 members,
11:51and we read them,
11:53and they say,
11:54now you tell us,
11:55what do you want to do?
11:56This will not happen, right?
11:58This application,
11:59although it was their initiative,
12:01to prepare it,
12:02which we have not received yet,
12:04we thought,
12:05and this option was discussed,
12:07in the second meeting,
12:08that,
12:09it is not necessary,
12:10that you give your demands,
12:11in writing,
12:12and wait for the next meeting.
12:14Whenever your demands are ready,
12:16you submit those applications,
12:18to the Speaker,
12:19and give them the mandate,
12:21to distribute them,
12:22among the other members,
12:23of the committee.
12:24They have not given it to the Speaker,
12:26they have not let the air in yet.
12:28So,
12:29they will come on 16th,
12:30and if they come on 16th,
12:31and,
12:32as far as I remember,
12:33the committee was formed on 5th December,
12:35so,
12:36this will take some 43-44 days,
12:38so,
12:39if they have taken 44 days,
12:41to write their declared two demands,
12:45so,
12:46we expect that,
12:47on the same day,
12:48or the next day,
12:49or two days,
12:50or four days,
12:51or a week later,
12:52we will come in front of them,
12:53that,
12:54yes,
12:55we have accepted this,
12:56or not,
12:57whatever the situation is,
12:58we have 7-8 different parties,
12:59People's Party,
13:00MQM,
13:01BNP,
13:02PMLQ,
13:03PMLZ,
13:04Tehreek-e-Istaqam,
13:05so,
13:06all these people,
13:07will come together,
13:08and reach a conclusion,
13:10this is not our only committee,
13:12that,
13:13the government,
13:14or the PMLN,
13:15will issue a decision,
13:17and,
13:18then,
13:19we have to see,
13:20what is written there,
13:21have they given any reference to TORs,
13:23what kind of commission do they want,
13:25if they want the release of their leaders,
13:27what mechanism are they proposing for that,
13:30they also say,
13:31that,
13:32we do not want any executive order,
13:34so,
13:35we have to see,
13:36what do they want,
13:37and,
13:38we will talk to Vokala,
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29:05We just wanted to talk to Mr. Khan.
29:08You can see that it took more than 20 weeks to facilitate the meeting with Mr. Khan.
29:14Now, this delay was caused by him and he became so helpless
29:18that Mr. Irfan Siddiqui himself kept saying on TV that we had promised him that we should meet
29:25because if we don't meet, our authority and respect will be reduced.
29:30So basically, he himself kept saying on TV that we had promised him and we couldn't facilitate it.
29:36You see, Ayaan Sadiq's statement that he is out of the country,
29:40or talking about the jail manual, this is absolutely childish.
29:44Because if on March 24, Barisal Saif and Barisal Gauhar can meet,
29:49then how can they meet according to the jail manual?
29:52I don't understand, the jail opened at 7 in the morning, according to which manual?
29:56So basically, this delay was caused by him.
30:02Mr. Khan then went ahead and said, okay, if we don't meet, you can write it down.
30:06You must know that we had said that we would meet, you can write it down.
30:10So, some things were very optimistic from our side.
30:13You said that there is a consensus.
30:15See, the thing is that I will quote Mr. Rana Sanaullah.
30:19He also said in your program and I heard him at one or two other places.
30:22He said that the approval or establishment of the establishment,
30:25and the meaning was like this.
30:27Maybe the words are further back, so that Mr. Rana does not have any objection.
30:30That his approval or his being on board is very important.
30:33Without that, there is no benefit.
30:35So, he also said this in words that no, that permission is not approval.
30:41We also, Mr. Malik, have been saying this.
30:43We have also been saying that meaningful dialogue can only happen
30:50when concerned quarters, such quarters that can deliver something,
30:54they are on board or with them or with them.
30:57Only the government.
30:58Okay, so today Khan was saying again and again that okay,
31:01you are telling us that there is nothing in front of us and we cannot deliver anything.
31:06So, today Mr. Siddiqui and Mr. Rana Sanaullah's both talks were mixed.
31:11Mr. Khawaja has to actually understand that what we were saying,
31:16ultimately this is what happened, full dialogue.
31:19No, but tell me one thing.
31:21You have not heard Mr. Khawaja Asif's talk today.
31:25Okay, second.
31:26No, no, one second.
31:27I am coming to the point that the language that has been used today,
31:31which Mr. Khawaja has also said and which Mr. Atta Tarir has also said.
31:35After these things, first, Mr. Imran Khan first fired Salvo.
31:39When he said that the Prime Minister is Asif Muneer's Ardili and Katputli,
31:44there was a big reaction to that.
31:46Just now, he was also talking with Irfan Siddiqui that look,
31:50if you talk about first year leadership, it is something else.
31:53When you talk about a leader, it has a lot of impact.
31:56But listen to both of these things that they have said today.
31:59Then we will talk about that.
32:01Leave this drama that is going on, that the talks are talks.
32:04Don't blackmail these people.
32:06These people are absolutely not sincere for jokes.
32:09It's a smoke screen.
32:10So what is this shuffling happening now?
32:12Why are you talking now?
32:13Why are you talking indirectly?
32:15Talk directly.
32:16If they think that those who have the power should talk to them,
32:19talk directly if they do.
32:36No one understands themselves.
32:38There is a fight among hypocrites.
32:41You have become a snake among hypocrites.
32:43They said, go and talk to them.
32:46So sarcasm has also come.
32:48Now Irfan Siddiqui is a cool man.
32:51He also said that when you have come with us,
32:53then trust us.
32:54Their meaning was that if a cat comes,
32:57don't peck the other's eyes.
32:59And don't peck the right eye.
33:01So are you now forced to talk to them?
33:06No, there is no such thing as compulsion.
33:09The hatred that was spreading,
33:11which the Prime Minister's article 245 imposed
33:13on his orders,
33:15which resulted in so many martyrs,
33:17the hatred that was spreading among the institutions and the public,
33:20we thought that if I come back,
33:22and this hatred has increased a lot,
33:24then it will be very difficult to reduce it.
33:26So they gave a chance.
33:28Now you have told this to two people.
33:30I don't know who Khawaja is telling.
33:33Stop this hypocrisy.
33:35Stop this show.
33:36Stop this drama.
33:37He is the Deputy Prime Minister.
33:39You are sitting in the committee.
33:40Why should he stop the drama?
33:41What are you telling us?
33:43Irfan Siddiqui is sitting in the committee.
33:45He is his own ally.
33:46Go and bring the negotiations to the committee.
33:48If you have so much trouble,
33:50then you do it.
33:52We told you.
33:54Khawaja himself has the trouble that
33:56Khawaja considers himself very good in his party.
33:58And the next day Khawaja said that
34:00my party did not trust me.
34:02The trouble is of our house.
34:04The story is being told elsewhere.
34:06Go and talk to your Prime Minister.
34:07Why are you telling us?
34:09Number one.
34:10The second thing is very important.
34:12These are the allies of MQM.
34:14Farooq Sattar has said today
34:16that he has been given an assignment.
34:18You have to keep your hard stance.
34:20Really do this.
34:21Good cop, bad cop, you are playing.
34:23So it means you are doing the drama.
34:25Then we are not doing it.
34:27Now our beloved read the couplet.
34:30Tell me, who is this hypocrite saying?
34:32Who is he talking about war?
34:34If he tells us that we are talking directly
34:36and we have not given any such deal
34:38or we are saying that this is a smokescreen,
34:40then let's go.
34:42First of all, I reject this.
34:44This is a very weak, useless thing.
34:46But even if it is taken for two minutes,
34:48this is a smokescreen,
34:50then let's go.
34:51You must be using it.
34:52What is your problem?
34:53Your party and your government
34:55are not facilitating the smoke screen.
34:58Do you understand what I am saying?
35:00Everyone has their own problems.
35:02This party has its own groups.
35:04Those groups have their own representatives.
35:06Everyone has got an assignment.
35:08One says it should be done.
35:10Look, listen to me.
35:12This is your party, which Khan says
35:14will not let it be diluted at all.
35:16Someone has to account for one thing.
35:18The one group, which is sitting
35:20with the Prime Minister,
35:22they know that tomorrow Harsh
35:24will recognize me.
35:27Okay.
35:29The concerned quarters
35:31or the strong quarters,
35:33they have nothing to do with it.
35:35They have to deal with those
35:37who have said 205 things
35:39and those who have done it.
35:41This is a fight of their own.
35:43We are hurting them.
35:45These things are not in their control.
35:47We have done a positive thing.
35:49Even though we think it is wrong
35:51to sit with them,
35:53we have taken a very harsh stance
35:56to improve the future of the country.
35:58What are we asking for, sir?
36:00What do we expect from Khan?
36:02We asked him to make a judicial commission
36:04so that the facts come out.
36:06I am being asked to take a break.
36:08Mr. Sheikh, after the break,
36:10I want to ask you
36:12that you feel that you make
36:14such people controversial.
36:16First, you made the Army Chief
36:18according to the other side.
36:20And now, they are saying that
36:22Mr. Asad has taken the names
36:24of two judges and made them
36:26controversial.
36:28There is no ground to make them
36:30controversial.
36:32I want to ask you that
36:34are they really controversial people
36:36or are you opening a new chapter
36:38after this break?
36:42Welcome back to the show.
36:44Mr. Sheikh, tell us
36:46that Mr. Asad is saying
36:48that two judges are being named,
36:50Mr. Shahrukh Khadjaband
36:52and Mr. Shahrukh Khadjaband
36:54are being made controversial.
36:56Now, they are being elevated
36:58to the High Court
37:00and they are being made judges.
37:02And there is a move behind this
37:04that they should listen to the
37:06appeal tomorrow.
37:08Isn't this a little unfair
37:10that a judge has to be made
37:12before the controversy starts?
37:14No, sir, this is not at all unfair.
37:16Usually, when you are presented
37:18in the court,
37:20you either have a relationship
37:22with the judge,
37:24or you have a conflict of interest
37:26with the judge.
37:28So, it is better
37:30to step back.
37:32Otherwise, the counsel says
37:34that you are being made
37:36controversial.
37:38It is always like this.
37:40I think that such judges
37:42who have been controversial
37:44and who have given
37:46very weak, fabricated
37:48punishments and who have
37:50raised many objections to us
37:52and we have been giving these things
37:54in writing as well.
37:56They do not have any golden shining
37:58careers.
38:00There are some outstanding cases
38:02that they should be elevated
38:04and sent to the High Court.
38:06The name of those judges
38:08should be on the lists
38:10to be made judges of the High Court.
38:12Obviously, this is a right of mine.
38:14If I think that a person is my
38:16judge and he gives me any punishment,
38:18then is it not my right as a Pakistani
38:20to leave PTI for 2 minutes?
38:22I have a right to object
38:24that this is not fair.
38:26I think that such big decisions
38:28are being made.
38:30If there is a concern of Pakistan
38:32as the biggest community,
38:34our people are also present in that committee.
38:36So, we will definitely raise this point.
38:38We will discuss the CV of the judges
38:40whom you want to appoint.
38:42There should be a record of their discussions.
38:44We are not talking about anyone else.
38:46We are talking about those people
38:48who have come and gone.
38:50We are talking about them.
38:52You have started your third important
38:54meeting with the government.
38:56They have also said that
38:58this is not a matter of divorce.
39:00What are your final instructions
39:02from Mr. Imran Khan?
39:04Will the negotiations end
39:06if the meeting does not take place
39:08on Thursday?
39:10Will the negotiations end
39:12if the meeting does not take place
39:14on Thursday?
39:40We will wait for the formation
39:42of the Judicial Commission.
39:44If the formation does not take place
39:46after the end of the third meeting,
39:48then we will not go
39:50to the fourth session.
39:54That is a very simple reason.
39:56That is a very simple reason.
39:58We know that the prisoners
40:00have to leave through a judicial process.
40:02They have to leave on bail.
40:04The case will be questioned and discharged.
40:06If this judicial process is not influenced,
40:08then they will leave on bail.
40:12Sir, we have run out of time.
40:14Mr. Sheikh, thank you very much.
40:16We have run out of time.
40:18Mr. Clare has said that
40:20after the third meeting
40:22on Thursday,
40:24he will only wait
40:26for the formation
40:28of the Judicial Commission.
40:30If there is a judicial commission,
40:32he will only wait
40:34for the formation
40:36of the Judicial Commission.
40:38If there is a judicial commission,
40:40he will only wait
40:42for the formation
40:44of the Judicial Commission.
40:46This is the red line.
40:48This is the red line.