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00:00Today's guest is Koji Ishizaka.
00:02Hello.
00:03Nice to meet you.
00:04Nice to meet you, too.
00:05You're not young, are you?
00:06I'm young. I'm 10 years older than I am.
00:10Just right?
00:11Just right.
00:13There are a lot of people who are 10 years younger than you.
00:15That's right.
00:17Like Yuji Miyake.
00:19That's right.
00:20I'd like you to take over.
00:23I don't think I can change.
00:25We're the same age.
00:26No, no.
00:27I don't think people in the world have that kind of feeling.
00:31Koji Ishizaka is in a live drama.
00:34That's right.
00:35I don't think he's that kind of person.
00:37I've heard about live dramas.
00:40When the atmosphere changes, it's hard.
00:45You have to change your clothes.
00:47It's okay if someone else is doing it.
00:51When I can't do that, I take a video of me walking on the street.
00:56I change my clothes while I'm playing the video.
00:58Did you record the video?
01:01I didn't record it.
01:02I can't take a video outside yet.
01:05It's just a baseball broadcast that I can't take outside.
01:08It's a camera like this now.
01:10It's about ten times bigger than that.
01:12Was it this big?
01:14So I've never been to Korakuen.
01:18I've never been there.
01:21There was a big camera there.
01:23Is that so?
01:24It says TV in Japan.
01:27I left it there.
01:28I put something like a futon on it.
01:31You didn't come from the early 20th century, did you?
01:33No, no, it's almost the early 20th century.
01:35From the early 20th century?
01:37But there were only four or six people.
01:42Minpo was born in 1926.
01:45It's the same year as Surube's birth.
01:48It's been 53 or 54 years since Minpo was born.
01:50Minpo was born in 1926.
01:52Eight, ten, and twelve were born while Minpo was alive.
01:54Minpo started from the age of four.
01:56There were only NHK, four, and six, right?
01:58Minpo was the first to be broadcast on a daily basis.
02:03Minpo was in every newspaper.
02:07There was a great science and technology research institute.
02:12It was a TV station with a great name.
02:14It was a science and technology TV.
02:18I don't know what you're talking about.
02:21I feel like I know a little bit, but I don't.
02:24It's a little different.
02:26When he was a student, he was crazy about acting.
02:30I made a play.
02:32By yourself?
02:33Yes, with all the actors.
02:36I made it, but there were only men, so I couldn't do it.
02:40Now, it's an impossible live-broadcast drama.
02:45I did it live.
02:47What?
02:48You did it live?
02:49Yes, four times live.
02:50You did it live when you jumped over the bonfire?
02:53Yes.
02:54What happens if you fail?
02:55I don't know.
02:58In addition, it's a story about the age of theater.
03:04All the actors were in the theater.
03:07Mr. Kawa was in the same situation.
03:09We were like,
03:10What are we doing here?
03:16Tsurube and Sawako.
03:18Showa's great seniors and strange two.
03:25Before you became an actor, you were a passer-by.
03:31Yes, I was a passer-by.
03:33That's an interesting story.
03:35I made a play, and my seniors made it.
03:38Were you originally interested in theater?
03:40Yes, I was interested in theater.
03:44There was a play called Rakugo and Shoukei Engeki.
03:50My grave was in Asakusa.
03:54My grandmother loved it.
03:57She wanted to go there, but she wanted to go to the grave.
04:02She really wanted to go to the grave.
04:04Rakugo.
04:06She didn't go to the grave.
04:08She went to Rakugo.
04:10We watched a play there.
04:12It was interesting.
04:14Until recently, there was a place like this.
04:17There was a place where my grandmother and I were walking.
04:22At that time, there was a place where you took a picture and asked if you could buy it.
04:27Yes, there was.
04:29In the city?
04:30I came to the city.
04:32I was a child.
04:34I was given a big candy.
04:36I took a picture.
04:38In Osaka?
04:39Yes, in Osaka.
04:40You were given a candy?
04:41Yes, I was given a candy.
04:43You're making progress.
04:45I was given a candy and took a picture.
04:48I went home to sell it.
04:51Did you pay for it and write your address?
04:54I was a child, so I didn't have much money.
04:57You were alone?
04:58Yes, I was alone.
04:59Suddenly, you were given a candy from an adult.
05:01You were like a parent-child scout.
05:03Yes, I was like a parent-child scout.
05:05The picture was taken away.
05:08How did you come to my house?
05:11I was taken near my house.
05:15That's amazing.
05:16I was a child.
05:18I don't know how it happened, but my parents scolded me.
05:21They told me to be careful.
05:24I sent my grandmother to my house.
05:28I don't know how many times I've moved.
05:32You don't have anything important.
05:34I have a candy at home.
05:36Do you have it?
05:37Yes, I do.
05:38Is that so?
05:39Yes, I do.
05:40Many people say,
05:42I have it at home, too.
05:44I think you have it.
05:46I came to take a picture and sold it.
05:49It says Tokiwaza on the back.
05:51Is that so?
05:52You've been a fan of my grandmother since you were a child?
05:56I saw it.
05:57I thought it was Mr. Inoken.
06:02I don't remember the details.
06:04I wonder how the people on the other side feel.
06:09What do you mean?
06:11The people on the stage.
06:15I see.
06:16I wonder how they feel.
06:23How many memories do you have?
06:25I was in the first grade of elementary school.
06:27I was 6 or 7 or 8 years old.
06:30You were 6 or 8 years old.
06:32I wonder how they feel.
06:35I was impressed.
06:37I'm a bit excited because I know how they feel.
06:40I understand.
06:41It's strange to think about it.
06:43I felt like we were the same people.
06:47We still perform on stage.
06:50Of course, we still talk on stage.
06:53But I'm worried until we perform on stage.
06:57I don't know if I can talk properly.
07:00I've been doing this for 50 years.
07:02You talk properly.
07:03I watch TV, too.
07:05What was the first line?
07:09Oh, I see.
07:11If I remember it, I'll be fine.
07:14When I remember it, I repeat it over and over again.
07:19That's how I remember it.
07:20Don't you go blank?
07:22I don't like that.
07:24I don't like it.
07:25I don't like the first line of the first day.
07:33It's decided later.
07:35If you do something weird at first, it will be connected.
07:39I agree.
07:41I don't like the day before.
07:44I want to go to the place where I felt when I was a kid.
07:49Hibari Misora's hometown, Tsugaru, was a hit.
07:54The first TV broadcast in Japan was started in NHK.
07:59It was in the 28th year of the Showa era.
08:03He woke up to Rakugo in junior high school.
08:07When I was in junior high school, I was a person who could understand.
08:12I was a normal elementary school student.
08:14I was a normal elementary school student.
08:20I thought it was a different world.
08:25Some people talk about art.
08:28What about the first year of junior high school?
08:30There was a person who talked about the stage.
08:33I was attacked.
08:35I thought there was such a thing.
08:37I repeated it over and over again.
08:41You were attacked from junior high school.
08:44I made a theater club.
08:46Did you make it by yourself?
08:47I made it with everyone.
08:50I made it, but there were only men.
08:52I thought I couldn't do it.
08:54It was an audience meeting.
08:56Did your parents do it?
08:58They didn't do it.
08:59They didn't do the presentation at all.
09:01They didn't do the theater club.
09:02When I was in the second year of junior high school,
09:05there was a line in the middle of the station.
09:08There was a high school theater club in the middle of the street.
09:11There was a theater club in the high school.
09:13There were girls in the high school.
09:16There was a senior who asked me to help.
09:20I was in junior high school.
09:22After school, I went to the train station.
09:25I painted tools there.
09:28I saw a play from a distance.
09:30I thought I wanted to do a play as soon as I entered high school.
09:34Did you have an interest in acting since you were a child?
09:38I don't know why I was interested in acting.
09:42Did you want to be a playwright?
09:44There is a play called Yokke-yo.
09:47I played a play when I was in junior high school.
09:49Did you play a play?
09:52I didn't want to.
09:54What kind of stories did you tell?
09:57The story I told the most was Nedoko.
10:00Did you play Nedoko?
10:02The story I told was the story of a young man who tries to make everyone hear.
10:06I told him that I was sick.
10:10I told him that I was sick.
10:13I played a play.
10:15I played a play.
10:17What happened then?
10:20I played a play.
10:22I cried at the end.
10:24I said,
10:25That's where I sleep.
10:28I was interested in Rakugo.
10:33I was interested in Rakugo.
10:35I used to play Rakugo.
10:38At that time, there weren't many Rakugo research centers.
10:47It was a little later.
10:49It was a little later.
10:51It was when we all went to university.
10:54It was a little later.
10:56It was when we all went to university.
10:58It was the era of Bunshin no Oni.
11:01KO boys are growing up.
11:05I long for KO.
11:08It's amazing that all the students were so enthusiastic.
11:14It was a culture shock.
11:17When I was in elementary school, I studied for entrance exams.
11:21I was a math teacher.
11:25I was a math teacher.
11:28You studied abroad.
11:29I didn't study culture at all.
11:33I studied radio.
11:35Did you listen to the radio?
11:37My grandmother liked the radio.
11:40Your grandmother's name is Keiko Kishi.
11:42Keiko Kishi is a movie star.
11:45She is a voice actor.
11:47Keiko Kishi is a movie star.
11:50Keiko Kishi and Keiji Sata.
11:52I don't know much about radio.
11:59Did you listen to the radio because of your grandmother?
12:02I threw my grandmother's food away.
12:06I threw my grandmother's food away.
12:08I put the radio in the box.
12:11I put the radio in the box.
12:13I put the radio in the box.
12:17Did you think it was interesting?
12:19I thought that was an act.
12:26You can get a picture in your head.
12:30That's right.
12:31I think so, too.
12:33I think it's a good act to get a picture in my head when I'm talking.
12:35I think it's a good act to get a picture in my head when I'm talking.
12:36I agree with you on the radio.
12:37I really liked the show where the predictor was good.
12:44Was there a preliminary round?
12:47Yes, there was.
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18:09Sato Subasara
18:10He doesn't have family
18:11Good
18:11That's true
18:12One people who of all people
18:15shocked or fascinated you
18:16when you saw them actually?
18:18The one person who shocked me
18:20was
18:21Actually
18:22Hayashi Nagata
18:23Akita
18:24academy
18:25Ort antidote
18:26Learned the hard way
18:27Oh you were young
18:28You were
18:29No I'm young
18:30they had been called
18:32I thought
18:33I wonder
18:34can't be
18:35I think it was Kyoko Kagawa.
18:38Kyoko Kagawa?
18:39Kyoko Kagawa. She was so beautiful.
18:43But all the actresses of that era were really...
18:46Yes, they didn't walk around like that.
18:49No, not at all.
18:50They didn't walk around like that, right?
18:53Not at all.
18:54They were like aliens.
18:55Aliens?
18:56No, no.
18:57It's good because they were aliens, but now it's better to get used to it.
19:03I don't think there were so many people in the earth, but it's a good thing.
19:09I feel like I can't see their everyday lives at all.
19:11I can't see it.
19:12You can't see their teeth.
19:13I'm sure they've never washed the dishes.
19:15I'm sure they haven't even been to the bathroom.
19:18Some men went to the bathroom.
19:19Oh, really?
19:20They go home early after drinking.
19:23Why do you go home early?
19:25I want to go to the bathroom.
19:28It's not good to go to the bathroom in the first place.
20:00You don't go to the bathroom in front of people?
20:02If I want to go to the bathroom, I take a taxi and go home.
20:05What?
20:08Who is that?
20:09May I?
20:10Yes.
20:11He's gone. Tamura Masakazu.
20:13Ah!
20:14That's a little special.
20:16Don't go.
20:18I won't go.
20:19It's not a matter of time.
20:21I won't go.
20:22I knew it.
20:23He knew it.
20:25That's amazing.
20:27Tamura-san and Ishizawa-san, which one is older?
20:30He's older than me.
20:31That's right.
20:32Is that so?
20:33He seems to be a funny person.
20:35Is that so?
20:36He used to work with Furuhata Ninzaburo.
20:39That's nice.
20:40He played the role of a criminal.
20:43He ate chocolate parfait.
20:48Tamura-san.
20:52I thought he was going to make me laugh.
20:55But he said,
20:56It's not easy to lose weight.
20:59He said,
21:00Don't say that.
21:02It's not easy to lose weight.
21:05I still remember it.
21:07It was really funny.
21:09That's right.
21:10The drama he made his debut in was called,
21:13Papa, Shut Up.
21:16He played the role of a high school student with me.
21:24He played the role of a student?
21:26Yes, he did.
21:27It was after that.
21:30So I did other things and started drinking.
21:35I can't imagine Tamura-san drinking outside.
21:38That's right.
21:39I heard the story.
21:40He said he wanted to take a picture at the location.
21:42He said,
21:43Let's do it at noon.
21:44I said,
21:45It's only two or three minutes walk.
21:47He said,
21:48Then,
21:49I said,
21:50I'm going to walk there.
21:51That's what he said.
21:53That's why he was so conscious.
21:55He's a big star.
21:56He's different.
21:57He's amazing.
21:58He's not very conscious, is he?
22:00He's not.
22:01He's not?
22:02Koji Ishizaka is not conscious.
22:05But when Koji Ishizaka made his debut,
22:08He was a very handsome KO boy.
22:11He was very smart.
22:13Rumor has it that he became an actor.
22:17Is that true?
22:18It's true.
22:19He's been a white-collar actor since he was young.
22:23He answered all the questions on the quiz show.
22:27He was in Haumachi.
22:29Haumachi.
22:30He met Takeshi in Haumachi.
22:33Kyosen-san was there.
22:35He was sitting next to Takeshi-san.
22:37That's right.
22:38It's a strange story.
22:40I said to Kyosen-san,
22:42I didn't have anything to do with it.
22:45I thought I should say something.
22:47He said,
22:48You have a lot of enemies.
22:50I was happy.
22:52That's what I was told.
22:55Why did you say that?
22:56There was something like that.
22:58He said to me,
22:59You have a lot of enemies.
23:00I laughed a lot.
23:02But I think that's true.
23:05You have a lot of enemies.
23:07You have a bad mouth.
23:09I'm a fool for everything.
23:11He took good care of me.
23:13I went to his house in Canada.
23:16Everyone in Haumachi was like a family.
23:20Wasn't that the case?
23:22Yes, there were three people.
23:24Takeshi-san.
23:25Takeshi-san.
23:26There weren't many foreigners.
23:28There were.
23:29Kento Gilbert-san.
23:30I see.
23:31Kento Gilbert-san was an American who lived in Osaka.
23:36Really?
23:37Yes.
23:38What did you do after that?
23:39I came to Japan after I got a part-time job.
23:42I knew a lot of things.
23:44There were a lot of incidents.
23:46I was a member of the record.
23:48A member of the record?
23:49Yes.
23:50I was one of them.
23:51I was supposed to do the narration at the end.
23:54I was there from the beginning.
23:56A woman from Czechoslovakia fell in love with an American.
24:04A woman from Czechoslovakia fell in love with an American.
24:10She was still a member of the record?
24:12Yes, she was.
24:13Wow.
24:14You were a member of the record?
24:16Yes.
24:17Kento Gilbert-san knew about it.
24:19Really?
24:20Yes.
24:21She was beautiful at the opening ceremony.
24:25You can see her flowers in the movie.
24:28But she wasn't there at the closing ceremony.
24:32Was she there before the closing ceremony?
24:34No, she was never there.
24:36Who told you that?
24:38I feel sorry for her.
24:40Maybe someone from Czechoslovakia was there.
24:43In 1941, John made his debut as a narrator in Ultra-Q.
24:51Did you play an Ultraman?
24:53Yes.
24:54What role?
24:55I played a narration.
24:57You didn't play an Ultraman.
24:59I wanted to.
25:03Yukio Hashi's movie, Muhyo, won a record award.
25:10It started selling well on Japanese TV in 1941.
25:19Mr. Ishizaka made his debut as a narrator in Ultra-Q, the first Ultraman series.
25:28Mr. Ishizaka made his debut as a narrator in Ultra-Q.
25:33Yes.
25:34Why did you play a narration?
25:37It's good to be good at narration.
25:41It was embarrassing.
25:44Why?
25:45I had to do it over and over again.
25:51Mr. Tsuburaya...
25:53Did Mr. Tsuburaya help you?
25:55No, he didn't.
25:58It was the first Ultraman series, wasn't it?
26:01I played Ultraman after Ultra-Q.
26:05It was before Tsuburaya became famous.
26:08It was the first Ultraman series after Tsuburaya became famous.
26:11What role did you play?
26:13I played a narration.
26:15I played a narration and played Ultraman.
26:18You didn't play an Ultraman?
26:20No.
26:21What role?
26:22I played a narration.
26:25You didn't play an Ultraman?
26:27I wanted to play an Ultraman.
26:29You wanted to do it?
26:31I wanted to do it for my debut.
26:33For my fights.
26:36It's not easy to play a narrator.
26:39I can't fight at all.
26:41Everyone does it except you.
26:46Except me?
26:49I was a Taiga before.
26:51You weren't a Takeda Shingen.
26:53You know, Uesugi Kenshin.
26:55Yes, Uesugi Kenshin.
26:57I saw him the other day.
26:59The one now?
27:00Not the old one.
27:01The one now.
27:02Heian Jidai?
27:03No, not Heian Jidai.
27:04No, it's Berabo.
27:05Berabo.
27:06He was already in it.
27:07Yes, he was.
27:08I didn't know him at first.
27:10He had such thick eyebrows.
27:14I didn't know when I heard his voice.
27:16Really?
27:17When was the last time you saw Tiger?
27:19The 14th.
27:20Wow.
27:21Amazing.
27:22But he's done more than 70.
27:25What surprised me was...
27:28It's been 60 years since Taiko-Oki.
27:33Wow.
27:34Has he been doing it for 60 years?
27:36Yes, he has.
27:37He's been doing it.
27:39Now it's the NHK Studio.
27:41I was in a different studio before.
27:43This time it's the NHK Studio in Shibuya.
27:45When it was done, it was Taiko-Oki.
27:48Oh, I see.
27:50It was done during the Olympics.
27:52It was the next year of the Taiko-Oki Olympics.
27:54Wow.
27:56So half of it was done in Uchisai.
27:58In Toranomon.
27:59I filmed it there and moved to another studio.
28:01How old were you when you did Uesugi Kenshin?
28:04I was 27 to 28.
28:06It must have been hard to be in Tiger.
28:08It must have been hard.
28:09It must have been hard.
28:10When you say Tiger in the NHK Studio,
28:12it's always after that.
28:14Also, at first, the Yomiuri Shimbun
28:17put Tiger in the title of an article.
28:19Wow.
28:21People around me said Tiger,
28:23but in the NHK Studio, no one said Tiger.
28:25Hanano Shougai.
28:26Hanano Shougai.
28:27That person.
28:28That's different.
28:29There are various ways of saying it.
28:31January to December of 001 was the Taiko-Oki.
28:34Oh, I see.
28:35In the middle of July,
28:37it was called Oogata Jidenki.
28:39Oogata Jidenki.
28:40Oogata Jidenki was the third edition.
28:42It was the third edition.
28:44So Hanano Shougai, Ako Oroshi, Taiko-Oki.
28:46Taiko-Oki, yes.
28:47That's where you made your debut.
28:48Yes, that's where I made my debut.
28:49That's amazing.
28:50Yes, it is.
28:51Oogata Jidenki is amazing.
28:52So, Oogata-san was there.
28:54Oogata-san, Oogata Ken-san.
28:56Oogata-san, Oogata Ken-san.
28:57Takashi Koi-san was there.
28:59All of them were really...
29:01Until then, it was a sudden change
29:03when a movie star came out.
29:05I guess so.
29:06I did the play, I was a passerby,
29:09I wanted to be a guest speaker,
29:11so I wrote the radio guest speaker,
29:13and then I did the narration,
29:16and it was shown in the third edition.
29:18Yes, the narration.
29:20I did the narration in beta,
29:22and it was Silk Road.
29:24Silk Road.
29:26Why did you do that?
29:28It's rude.
29:29Why did you do that?
29:33I did the narration for the movie, too.
29:41But I never did it again.
29:43What?
29:44What do you call a boar?
29:47It's a boar, right?
29:49A boar.
29:50It's a boar, right?
29:51A boar.
29:52It's not a boar.
29:53But I call it a boar,
29:56so it's a little different.
29:58Oh, I see.
29:59You had to do it in standard Japanese?
30:00Yes, yes.
30:01Oh, so the problem was the standard Japanese?
30:03Yes, yes.
30:04I don't think it's a boar.
30:06I don't think it'll work.
30:08It's a boar.
30:10You could have done it in Osaka dialect.
30:12I hate boars.
30:17A boar.
30:18A boar.
30:19I don't think it's a boar.
30:21It's fine, right?
30:22I think it's fine.
30:23It's fine, right?
30:24I'm being arrogant,
30:27but I can't say it.
30:29It's not a boar.
30:31I think I can't do the dialect.
30:37It's not an accent.
30:39The way you say it is different.
30:41Kansai dialect?
30:42Kansai dialect.
30:43Have you ever played a Kansai dialect character?
30:45I have, but I can't do it.
30:47Oh, you couldn't do it?
30:49It's not a Kansai face.
30:52Do you have a face?
30:53Yes, I have a Kansai face.
30:55What kind of face?
30:56Like this.
30:58Kansai face.
31:00Like this.
31:01Like me or Chiara Seiji.
31:05Ishizaka-san was born and raised in the center of Tokyo.
31:09He's a K-O.
31:10K-O.
31:11Are you stupid?
31:12What's stupid?
31:14What kind of parent are you?
31:16What did you want to be when you were a kid?
31:18I wanted to be a salaryman.
31:19Salaryman?
31:20Yes.
31:21Salaryman is a person who works.
31:23Yes, yes.
31:24What kind of person?
31:25He looks suspicious.
31:27I thought he was the son of a merchant.
31:33No, no, no.
31:34If that's the case...
31:35Like Mr. Okuge.
31:36If that's the case,
31:37I probably quit being an actor.
31:40I'm done with it.
31:42But that's not the case.
31:44I like it.
31:45I can't help it.
31:46I can't quit it.
31:48I turned 60 when I was about 50 years old.
31:51I'm still young.
31:53Until I was about 66,
31:56I was 64 when Osmo called me.
31:59That's right.
32:01I was wondering how far I could go.
32:04I thought I could go up to 70 when I got close to it.
32:07But when I turned 70,
32:09I thought I could go up to 80.
32:11I'm over 80 now.
32:13But I'm going to retire this year.
32:16I think it's my 7th time.
32:18Midoshi?
32:19No, no, no.
32:20I'm Midoshi.
32:21I'm Midoshi.
32:23I'm Midoshi.
32:24Are you Midoshi?
32:25I'm Midoshi.
32:26I'm Midoshi.
32:27I'm Midoshi.
32:28I'm Midoshi.
32:29I'm Midoshi.
32:30I'm Midoshi.
32:31I'm Midoshi.
32:32I'm Midoshi.
32:33Stop it.
32:34You're so vulgar.
32:36You're so stupid.
32:37I'm Midoshi.
32:39But you're going to retire.
32:41Because you started the series,
32:43Yasuragi no Sato.
32:44I'm 75.
32:45I'm 75.
32:46I'm happy.
32:47I was the last one to play a teacher.
32:50I didn't know that.
32:52Why didn't you know?
32:54Kuramoto asked me to play a teacher.
32:57That was a big hit.
33:00Yasuragi no Sato.
33:02I came up with the song in advance.
33:04Who made the lyrics?
33:07Kuramoto-san.
33:08Kuramoto-san, Masaji...
33:11I was also born that year.
33:15You're so lucky.
33:17He makes the good songs, too.
33:19I knew that Ishizaka-san,
33:22who can do anything,
33:24wrote the lyrics to Billy Bambam's Goodbye.
33:26Did you know?
33:28I found out about that today.
33:30I found out about it when I was young, but that song was popular when I was in college.
33:34I've always liked it more than White Blanket.
33:37I've always cherished it.
33:39One day, I saw a song called Ishizaka Koushi.
33:42Why did you make that song?
33:44It was in a drama.
33:45Wasn't it Sanchome No. 3?
33:47Sanchome.
33:48It was after that.
33:49There was Sanchome No. 3.
33:51It was like a sequel.
33:54I was curious about the story.
33:56That was Sanchome No. 4.
33:58I didn't want to be the main character.
34:01I just wanted to be a normal guy.
34:03So I asked Mr. Kuramoto.
34:07He was the director.
34:09Was he Mr. Kuramoto?
34:10Yes, he was.
34:11So I asked him.
34:13I didn't want to be the main character.
34:15Oh, Mr. Kuramoto?
34:16Yes, I didn't want to be the main character.
34:18So I asked Mr. Ishizaka, the director.
34:21He said,
34:22I have a song.
34:24I had a song.
34:25Did you have a song before that?
34:28Yes, I did.
34:30That's a deep song.
34:33It's a good song.
34:35Didn't you have another song?
34:39I wrote a lot of songs.
34:42Did you write a lot?
34:43Yes.
34:44It just didn't sell.
34:45The most surprising thing was
34:48I went to the theater this year.
34:52I see.
34:53I went to the theater this year.
34:55I wrote a musical for children.
35:02I heard they were recreating it.
35:04I didn't know that.
35:05I said, I'll do it this year.
35:07You didn't know?
35:08I was asked to do it.
35:10I said, I'll do it this year.
35:15Did you do it?
35:16Yes, I did.
35:17It was around March.
35:21As a director?
35:22Yes, as a director.
35:24But you're not here anymore.
35:26I don't have to be a director.
35:28Is that so?
35:30Is that so?
35:31I've been a director for a long time.
35:34When it starts, I'm in charge.
35:37And on the same day,
35:39you're over there.
35:40It's a little weird, isn't it?
35:43It's the director's job to say no.
35:45You have to instruct the director
35:48that it's not done.
35:51That's harder, isn't it?
35:53I've been doing it for a long time.
35:55I have a foundation.
35:57It's already done.
35:59It's worth a lot of money,
36:00so I'll pay you once a month.
36:02What should I have done before?
36:06I'm happy now.
36:08I'll pay you once a month.
36:11I'm really happy to hear that
36:13you're going to the theater.
36:14That's right.
36:16When you were in the theater,
36:18wasn't the payment good?
36:21It was 200,000 yen a month.
36:25But I had three commercials.
36:28The commercials are different, right?
36:30No.
36:31All of them went to the theater.
36:33Mariko Kaga was also in the theater.
36:35We were in the same place.
36:37Kaga was in the same place.
36:39We were like,
36:40We can't do this.
36:41We're in this place.
36:44And after this.
36:46I just heard.
36:48Have you ever dated Hibari Misora?
36:50What?
36:51All of a sudden?
36:52Yes, all of a sudden.
36:56I just heard.
36:58Have you ever dated Hibari Misora?
37:00What?
37:01All of a sudden?
37:02Yes, all of a sudden.
37:03That's because...
37:04When was that?
37:05Actually, I did it with Shogun in the 14th generation.
37:08Kazunomi Kojo came out.
37:10Kazunomi Kojo became Hibari's father.
37:13Did that happen?
37:14Kazunomi Kojo and Hibari Misora were dancers.
37:17Hibari Misora was Hibari's student.
37:19Kazunomi Kojo was Hibari's student.
37:21Kazunomi Kojo was Hibari's student.
37:23And he went to practice.
37:25It was kind of a long time.
37:29It was a different genre.
37:31And I was pretty busy with Star Saint.
37:33Star Saint.
37:36Hibari Misora was pretty close to me.
37:41His father, who passed away recently,
37:45was my father.
37:47Oh, really?
37:49Yes, he was my father.
37:51And Misora?
37:52Yes.
37:53I like him a lot.
37:55We talked a lot about him.
37:57And I got along well with Hibari.
38:00We had a good time.
38:02Gradually, we got closer.
38:05And I called him.
38:07I asked him if I could go with him.
38:09He said, no, it's okay.
38:11He said, it's okay, I'll go by car.
38:13Then, I saw this.
38:15Continental.
38:17There was a Kamon here.
38:19Kamon?
38:20Yes, Kamon.
38:21That Kamon is the same as me.
38:23I'm Muto.
38:25Oh, you're Muto.
38:26I'm Kato.
38:27We're twins.
38:28Oh, you're twins.
38:30We're the same age.
38:32I said, I'll give you mahjong.
38:34He's a Japanese samurai.
38:38I went to drink with him.
38:40Was he strong?
38:42Yes, he was.
38:43We went to drink.
38:45When I was in the middle of drinking,
38:49he was touching me like this.
38:51I was in a corner without anyone noticing.
38:54Oh, I see.
38:56It was not a private room.
38:58I was drinking like this.
39:00He was more natural.
39:02He was doing construction work.
39:04I was fine, too.
39:06I saw it.
39:08He was naked.
39:09What?
39:10He was naked.
39:11I said, I'll go by car.
39:15Oh, he's a man.
39:16He was really interesting.
39:18Yes, he was.
39:19They were not ordinary people.
39:23It was natural.
39:24He was the most natural.
39:30So, I felt sorry for him.
39:33When I was working on the radio show,
39:36there was a cat on the radio.
39:39It was a normal radio.
39:42It was like a sliver.
39:44Before that, Mr. Kida,
39:47Mr. Kida Taro was on the show.
39:50After Mr. Kida's show was over,
39:53I asked Mr. Kida,
39:54if he was going to go to Tsurube's show next,
39:56please say,
39:57Tsurube is the last one.
39:59I didn't know him, so I said,
40:01thank you very much.
40:03Then he said,
40:04Tsurube is the last one.
40:06Mr. Kida told me that,
40:08but it was funny.
40:12It's natural to torture such a big person.
40:16That's nice.
40:17I was in the make-up room of TBS.
40:21There was a show every night.
40:24At that time, the river was popular.
40:27When I entered the make-up room,
40:29I sang,
40:30like the river flows.
40:32I said,
40:33I'm sorry.
40:34Then,
40:35he said,
40:36oh!
40:37Then,
40:38he was hiding something.
40:41I asked him,
40:42is there anyone there?
40:45Then,
40:46he said,
40:47it was Hibari Misora.
40:48I said,
40:49in a loud voice,
40:50like the river flows.
40:51Oh, no.
40:52I thought so,
40:53but it wasn't a level to apologize.
40:55I think he was happy.
40:56Oh, really?
40:57I thought it was rude.
40:59And then,
41:01What happened?
41:02Suddenly, he closed his eyes.
41:04He confessed his forbidden episode.
41:08It's my eyes.
41:10But it's shining.
41:12I thought it was sweat.
41:16I watched a lot of shows,
41:19and I did a lot of great shows.
41:21What was the show I wanted to do?
41:24I'm glad I did this show.
41:26It was interesting.
41:27It was interesting?
41:28Yes.
41:29I did it with Shinsuke.
41:30It was very interesting.
41:31Mr. Koichi Ishizaka said,
41:33I wouldn't do it if he didn't accept me.
41:35Mr. Shinsuke said that.
41:37I wish Mr. Shinsuke did it, too.
41:39No, it's a waste of time.
41:41Why did you do that?
41:42You already knew it.
41:44I watched Mr. Shinsuke's show.
41:46After all,
41:47how can I say?
41:49The way he loves the show,
41:53I can feel it.
41:55He is also such a person.
42:00He does what he wants to do with his responsibility.
42:04At first,
42:07I didn't know much about him.
42:11But after a year,
42:14I learned a lot from him.
42:17I learned a lot.
42:19I went to Tokyo Museum.
42:21I learned a lot.
42:22I learned a lot from him.
42:24He is a hard-working person.
42:26You have to fall in love with him.
42:29Mr. Koichi Ishizaka is an actor, isn't he?
42:33Yes, he is.
42:34Everyone calls him Hei-chan.
42:36Hei-chan is...
42:37Hei-chan is his real name.
42:38His real name is Hei-kichi.
42:39Hei-kichi.
42:40Hei-kichi is a strange name, isn't it?
42:42Hei-kichi is the name of a soldier.
42:44Hei-kichi.
42:45On the night I was born,
42:49I was born in the morning.
42:51I saw a soldier was drinking coffee.
42:53I thought,
42:54I can see that.
42:56But everyone calls you Hei-chan.
42:59I envy you.
43:00It's easy to call me Hei-chan.
43:02When I first appeared on TV,
43:04everyone called me Hei-chan.
43:06You don't call him Ko-chan.
43:08I don't.
43:09Hei-chan is...
43:10Hei-chan was casted by Mr. Fukuo Ishii.
43:12Mr. Fukuo Ishii?
43:13He was casted by Mr. Fukuo Ishii.
43:14He was casted by Mr. Fukuo Ishii.
43:15He was casted by Mr. Fukuo Ishii.
43:16I was surprised.
43:17He was casted by Mr. Fukuo Ishii.
43:18He was casted by Mr. Fukuo Ishii.
43:19It's a fate.
43:20It was broadcast live.
43:22What?
43:23It was broadcast live?
43:24It was broadcast live four times.
43:26It was broadcast live four times?
43:27Yes.
43:28No, no, no.
43:29No, no, no.
43:30No, no, no.
43:31I only do it once a week.
43:32I don't do it every time.
43:33You did it live when you jumped over the bonfire?
43:35Yes.
43:36What happens if you fail?
43:38I don't know.
43:40You'll get burned.
43:41It's not the time to say it's hot.
43:43The most important thing is to get burned.
43:45Which one will fly?
43:46The woman will fly.
43:47The woman?
43:48The woman's part will fly over the bonfire.
43:52And I'll fly over the bonfire...
43:53I guess so.
43:54If someone tells me to fly over the bonfire...
43:55That'll make the poultry dance.
43:57Well, I won't do that.
43:58That will never happen.
43:59I don't know but...
44:00That won't happen.
44:01I don't know but...
44:02Wasn't it hot?
44:03That was...
44:04I don't remember anything.
44:07While the program is on air,
44:09there's a set called Kamishima in the film.
44:12While it's on pc,
44:13we put it on air too.
44:15While it's on pc,
44:16we put it on air too.
44:17We had to change our clothes in the middle of the film.
44:20Wow, that's amazing.
44:23Because it's live.
44:24Yes, it's live.
44:25It's almost like a play.
44:26It's worse than a play.
44:28You don't change that much in a play.
44:31Especially not on stage with Enosuke-san.
44:34So when you did the salt festival...
44:37When we did it, we had a title called Mutouheikichi.
44:41The sea was like this.
44:43The waves were like this.
44:46Mutouheikichi means a soldier.
44:49So I was like, what?
44:50A soldier who ran away?
44:52That's terrible.
44:54It's a name of a land army.
44:56It has nothing to do with the sea.
44:58Oh, I see.
44:59It's not like a sea army.
45:00I told them to change it because I was going to wear it.
45:03They said, okay.
45:04Ishizaka Koji, where is it close to the sea?
45:06Well, isn't it close to the sea?
45:09I'm just saying.
45:10Because it's Sanzui?
45:11Because it's Sanzui.
45:12I see.
45:13How was today for you, Ishizaka Koji?
45:16Today?
45:17I don't know how to say it on this show.
45:20I've been trying so hard to find my memories.
45:25I see.
45:26Is that so?
45:27You remember everything.
45:29I think I'll be able to answer if I'm asked.
45:33I'm getting a little confident.
45:36You're very confident.
45:39I don't usually think about it.
45:41I think about the next long scene in the current era.
45:49I'm the same as Ken-san.
45:51Ken-san is coming out like that.
45:54I think about what to do.
45:57I don't think about the old days.
45:59You get a lot of ideas by acting.
46:02That's right.
46:03I get a lot of ideas for the work I'm doing.
46:06So I have to be careful.
46:09If I play a great role, my attitude gets bigger and bigger.
46:13Usually.
46:14You don't have the sense of urgency of your partner.
46:18That's right.
46:20But that's what happened to my son.
46:22He dropped out of school.
46:23That's strange.
46:25You know, there's something great about the work you're doing.
46:30If you do that, you'll be like this when you get home.
46:36Is that so?
46:38That's what happened to me.
46:40Mr. Shima Iwashita also said that.
46:42That's right.
46:43When he was on the bullet train with his sister.
46:47I see.
46:48He said,
46:50That's not my story.
46:55Mr. Iwashita was the same age as me.
46:57Mr. Iwashita was the same age as you?
46:59Yes.
47:00I was with him all the time.
47:03There's a story about him.
47:06A story about him.
47:08Didn't you go?
47:09Banana?
47:10That's right.
47:11There was a photo studio in Roppongi.
47:14I don't know why, but there were several photo studios in Roppongi.
47:18At the end of the photo shoot,
47:20he brought a yellow steamed towel to me.
47:23He said,
47:24Thank you for your hard work.
47:27Iwashita said,
47:29Thank you for your hard work.
47:31He said,
47:32Thank you for your hard work.
47:35Banana.
47:36I said,
47:37That's not a banana.
47:39He said,
47:40That's a rice ball.
47:42He said,
47:43Let's eat a rice ball.
47:45That's the first story.
47:46The first story?
47:47I was so nervous.
47:49Did you have a gun?
47:50I had a gun.
47:51The day before the shoot,
47:56I had lost before.
47:59I woke up sweating.
48:01There was a scene where I said,
48:03What's wrong with you?
48:05I was sweating so much.
48:07I came to him.
48:09He said,
48:10What's wrong with you?
48:11He suddenly looked at me.
48:13I said,
48:15What's wrong with you?
48:17I said,
48:18I'm sweating.
48:20I thought I was sweating.
48:21It's a true story.
48:22It takes a long time.
48:24That's right.
48:25Please prove it.
48:28At last,
48:29The words of life from Kouji Ishizaka,
48:32a great senior from Showa.
48:36Kouji Ishizaka is better than I thought.
48:42Next time,
48:43Fashion designer, Koshino Junko-san.
48:46What's the exchange rate with Nagashima Shigeo-san?
48:49Nagashima-san is standing next to me.
48:51He's giving me a bow.
48:53It's about 10 times.
48:54Look forward to it!
48:56I was in the window without permission.
48:57I was crying with my mother.
48:59I lied to her that it was 300 yen.
49:02It must have been expensive back then.