"PTI Founder's Letters... Army Chief's ResponseClearing the Confusion? Senior Journalists
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00:00Let's start the discussion.
00:01Mr. Rana, the incident that took place today,
00:03they wrote the third letter after the first one,
00:07and then there was a reaction from the security sources.
00:10But the PTI kept saying that they don't believe in the security sources,
00:15that when there is an official matter,
00:17there will be a reaction from the army chief, not the DDI-SPR.
00:20Which we all heard, I also read and heard.
00:23So, what do we know from this?
00:26Do we know that the matter is in such a state
00:32between the establishment and the PTI,
00:34that there is no possibility of a discussion in the future?
00:40Look, this is the kind of situation that the 9th of May is in its place.
00:44Yes.
00:44And the rest, they have said, talk to the politicians.
00:47And the letter, they have called it a gimmick.
00:51And even if it comes,
00:54which is not going to come, then it will go to the Prime Minister.
00:56So, this is the same answer that was given to Arif Alvi Sahib.
01:00You will remember that he was very eager to talk to him.
01:04And he was very eager to talk to Imran Khan Sahib, the army chief.
01:08So, it was not possible that you talk to the government.
01:10So, the attitude of the army chief has not changed.
01:12They are saying that it is not my job to talk to the politicians,
01:15that you go and talk to the government.
01:18So, this expression that why is it coming from the security sources,
01:21the answer came there.
01:22So, after today, no one will say to the security sources that these are the wrong sources.
01:26The answer is coming directly from the sources.
01:28So, it has been confirmed that as much consolation and clarification as you wanted,
01:34that letter came third and there were five points in it instead of six.
01:38So, I think that the strategy that Khan Sahib has adopted,
01:42go to the firm side, that is, to form an opposition alliance,
01:47then talk through it.
01:49So, I will ask you this question,
01:55that what is your response to the development of the letter today?
01:59And then where should we take the statement of Mr. Gandapur Sahib,
02:02that 88% has been talked about, 99% has been done,
02:06that is, the summary of that interview was this,
02:09he gave it to Mr. Nadeem Ali,
02:10that brother, everything has been decided from the army,
02:12now only the official announcement is left, what else is there?
02:14When you say that 99% has been done, then it has been done,
02:17then the matter will be over.
02:18So, on one hand, this is it and on the other hand, that is it.
02:20Now, after all this, where should we take the statement of Mr. Gandapur?
02:25Yes, Mr. Gandapur's statement is also there and all this that is happening is also here.
02:30The issue is that, look, the issue is that,
02:35today we had a great guest here, Mr. Izzat Mahmood Urdagan,
02:40this event was about him and there too the journalists
02:44were questioning about Imran Khan Sahib's letter.
02:47You can guess from this that this is the issue and this letter is an open letter,
02:51this letter was not sent to anyone through a post,
02:54this is an open letter whose points are now part of history,
02:58the third letter has also come, the matters in it are also part of history.
03:02Now, who will see it, who will read it, the government does not have to see it,
03:06and if someone sends it to the Prime Minister,
03:08then the Prime Minister will also see it,
03:10but the main thing, the important thing is that
03:12the points written in that letter, do they have any weight in them or not?
03:18If today they are talking about Judiciary, talking about democracy,
03:22talking about Parliament, talking about the Peekah law,
03:24then are these issues or not?
03:26Now, Mr. Udawi, you and I have been sitting here for two weeks,
03:30all the journalists are talking about the same thing,
03:33that the judge who has been brought from Lahore High Court,
03:35he has been brought because he will be made the Chief Justice in Islamabad High Court,
03:40and everything is happening according to the assumptions that were given earlier.
03:48So, in my opinion, the things that are being written in the letter,
03:51we all need to think about it as a nation,
03:54and the system, the government also needs to think about it.
03:57But Mr. Kalbi, from today's development, at least, to say the least,
03:59it is possible that whatever is written in the letter,
04:01as you are saying, there will be a debate on whether it is right or wrong,
04:04but at least, what is a higher level than the Army Chief?
04:09So, this means that the Army is not interested in any kind of engagement with the PTI at the moment,
04:15to say the least, is it okay to discuss this from today's development,
04:19from the development a little while ago?
04:21Look, I can't say anything about this,
04:25but to question this letter, to answer this letter,
04:30there has been an engagement,
04:31it means that the issue is justice,
04:34and it is reaching everywhere, justice.
04:36So, I don't think this is such a simple issue,
04:38that there is no engagement with Tariq-e-Insaf,
04:40there is no such thing,
04:42Tariq-e-Insaf is the biggest political reality of the country,
04:44it is the biggest political party,
04:46engagement is being made with them,
04:48and I think it will continue.