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00:00Thank you for joining us this week.
00:02Thank you for having us.
00:04Everyone, this is a bit sudden.
00:06Yeah, it is.
00:08When you think of a computer game, what comes to your mind?
00:12Minesweeper.
00:14What's that?
00:15It's a game where you have to dodge a bomb.
00:19I've played it before.
00:20Oh, you've played it before?
00:21Yeah, I have.
00:22I've never heard of it.
00:24Minesweeper is a game where you have to buy a computer to play.
00:30Oh, really?
00:31I didn't know that.
00:32So you've never played it before.
00:34Right.
00:35Today's theme is the history of computer games.
00:39Oh!
00:54The history of computer games
01:23Hello, I'm Rika Sato from Magesaka46.
01:26Today, I'm going to talk about standard games.
01:29Do you know what standard games are?
01:32I didn't know much about them.
01:34But I think you'll learn a lot if you watch this video.
01:37So please try playing it.
01:40Today, we have a special guest.
01:44She's Tsujisaka, who knows a lot about retro games.
01:48Hello, I'm Tsujisaka.
01:52Tsujisaka Kenji is a famous game creator and a retro game observer.
02:01She lectures games to Nobuyo Oyama, who is famous for his voice in Doraemon.
02:06She's very famous in the world of retro games.
02:12Today, Tsujisaka is going to introduce you to a game that was standard when you bought a computer.
02:23Today, I'm going to introduce you to Minesweeper, Solitaire, and 3D Pinball.
02:31Actually, it's a pre-installed game.
02:33It's a pre-installed game, so I prepared it for you to play.
02:39Yay! Thank you!
02:41Doesn't it remind you of Windows?
02:43The color of the screen.
02:45It's your father's computer, isn't it?
02:47It's your father's computer, isn't it?
02:49That's right.
02:50Before we experience the standard game, let's learn when these games were in the first place.
03:01First, let's look back on the history of Windows.
03:06It's quite difficult for a person to use a computer.
03:11It's hard to communicate.
03:13I see.
03:14You can't do anything even if you talk.
03:16That's true.
03:17So, in order to communicate with people well, an operating system called OS was born.
03:24OS is an update system?
03:26That's right.
03:27IOS.
03:28That's it.
03:29That's Windows. In Japan, it's called Mac OS.
03:34I see.
03:35That's how it started.
03:37On the top left, you can see MS-DOS.
03:40MS-DOS?
03:44MS-DOS is an OS that was popular before Windows became mainstream.
03:49It's a command-based operating system.
03:53You need to remember the commands accurately.
03:56There is a possibility that the input error will lead to an error.
04:00It was a difficult OS for beginners.
04:06You can't tell what's left.
04:08You have to do what you want to do with the keyboard.
04:13That's how it's been used.
04:15I see.
04:16But it's hard to use.
04:18That's true. You have to type.
04:19You can't type like this.
04:22So, Windows 1.0 was born.
04:26The first OS?
04:27That's right.
04:281985.
04:301985.
04:31That's a long time ago.
04:3239 years ago.
04:34That's right.
04:37One of the innovative systems that came out with Windows 1.0 was the Application Launcher.
04:45Do you know how it changed?
04:51Application Launcher?
04:53Application Launcher?
04:54Launcher.
04:55Launcher?
04:56I don't think people use the word launcher anymore.
04:59Does it have a meaning?
05:01Wasn't launcher a weapon?
05:03Yes, it was.
05:04No, it wasn't.
05:05No, it wasn't.
05:07MS-DOS requires you to type commands on your keyboard.
05:12It's very difficult.
05:13Each command has different parameters and you have to memorize a lot of words.
05:18Windows 1.0 is a little different.
05:22You can use it as soon as you press the enter key with the cursor.
05:27It shows all the difficult commands and parameters.
05:31It controls them.
05:32So, you can use it without any special knowledge?
05:34You can use it with a little sense.
05:38It lasts until 2.0.
05:402.0.
05:41Next, it will be 3.1 in Japan.
05:453.1 in Japan.
05:46It's been a while.
05:48It's going to be a big evolution.
05:51What will evolve?
05:53What will evolve?
05:54This will appear.
05:55This will appear.
05:56It's a mouse.
05:57It's a mouse.
05:58It's a mouse.
05:59You can use it by clicking the icon.
06:03I see.
06:04You can use it by clicking the icon.
06:06I see.
06:07Windows 95 will be released.
06:10Windows 95 will be released in 1995.
06:12It's easy to understand.
06:13It's easy to understand.
06:14The Internet will be a common thing.
06:18It will be a big explosion.
06:20Finally.
06:21It will evolve little by little.
06:24Windows 98 and Windows Me.
06:27It's Me because it's Millennium.
06:28Me?
06:29Me.
06:30It's Me because it's Millennium.
06:31It's Me because it was released in 2000.
06:34I see.
06:35So, it's Me because it was released in 2000.
06:38It's Millennium.
06:40I see.
06:41I was born in 2000.
06:44Windows 1.0 was released in 1985.
06:50Windows has been evolving for over 35 years.
06:55It's still a popular OS with 70% share in the world.
06:59Windows has been evolving for over 35 years.
07:01Don't you notice something strange?
07:07What?
07:08Red?
07:09Red and blue?
07:10Yes, red and blue.
07:11They are different.
07:12Are they different?
07:13Yes, they are.
07:14N, T, K.
07:16They look the same.
07:17They are released in the same year.
07:20The screen is almost the same.
07:22They are almost the same, but the contents are different.
07:24N, T, K is a server OS.
07:28What is a server?
07:31A phone?
07:32No, it's not a phone.
07:36Is it for individuals or companies?
07:39Yes, it is.
07:40Wi-Fi?
07:42No, it's not.
07:43It's not that new.
07:45A company?
07:46A company?
07:47A company?
07:48A company-style company?
07:49Yes.
07:50It's close.
07:51It's close?
07:52It's close.
07:53I think everyone uses it.
07:55Do you use it?
07:56Secretly?
07:57I think everyone uses it secretly.
07:59If I were to use it now, I would definitely use it.
08:03Alexa? Alexa?
08:05It's not.
08:06It's not, right?
08:08A server is often used as a file server.
08:12Dropbox?
08:13That's close.
08:14That's one.
08:15Clipbox?
08:19Like iCloud?
08:21That's correct.
08:22It's Cloud now.
08:23It's correct.
08:24Wow.
08:28It's called a server.
08:29It's a server that everyone uses to share data in the company.
08:34It's an image server.
08:35You can put a lot of files in it,
08:37or you can ask for documents from here.
08:39You can use it like that.
08:43Do you know why you needed an OS for a server?
08:47A lot.
08:48A lot of capacity.
08:49A lot of capacity.
08:51It's a little different.
08:52It's a little different.
08:53I see.
08:54It's not a big problem.
08:57The amount of data outflow?
09:01It's different.
09:02It's different.
09:03It's simpler.
09:04It's a problem if it breaks.
09:06It's so close.
09:07It's so close.
09:08It's a problem if you can't find it.
09:10It's a problem if you're late.
09:12It's so close.
09:13It's a problem if you stop.
09:17Windows 95 is easy to stop.
09:20I used to say it would freeze.
09:22There are very few NTSC versions of this OS.
09:25I didn't know that.
09:26It's an OS that was designed to avoid that.
09:30Here's a question for everyone.
09:32Solitia and Minesweeper have been standardized for a certain purpose.
09:38What is that purpose?
09:40What is the purpose of the game?
09:43To kill time.
09:44But it's more practical.
09:46Practical?
09:47Oh, I get it. No-train.
09:49It's a shame. It's really a shame.
09:51To make sure the computer is working properly.
09:54That's a long answer.
09:56Here's a hint.
09:57This.
09:58Oh!
09:59Mouse!
10:00Mouse!
10:01Yes, mouse.
10:02This is a hint.
10:04I'm sorry.
10:05This is a hint.
10:06To make you get used to the mouse.
10:08Correct.
10:10Wow.
10:11Correct.
10:12Basically, people didn't use the mouse that much.
10:16Why?
10:17There was no need to use it.
10:19You could type commands or type on the keyboard.
10:23There was no need to use it.
10:25But can you use it all of a sudden?
10:28No one could use it.
10:29That's why if you put in a game,
10:31it's a game that everyone desperately wants to play.
10:33Practice.
10:34Then you can practice on your own.
10:36Wow.
10:37It's well thought out.
10:38Yes.
10:39That's why.
10:40There was such a past?
10:42Yes.
10:43With Windows 3.1,
10:45new mouse functions such as right-click and drag-and-drop have been introduced.
10:50As a tool for users to naturally learn the skills of using the mouse,
10:54games such as Minesweeper and Solitia have been standardized.
11:00So, from here,
11:02I will introduce the standardized Minesweeper, Solitia, and 3D Pinball.
11:10First, let's start with the famous Windows game, Minesweeper.
11:15Do you know the rules?
11:16Rules?
11:17I don't think I've ever seen it.
11:19No, right?
11:20It's my first time.
11:21In Minesweeper, there are squares on the screen, right?
11:26There is a mine hidden somewhere in the squares.
11:29If you avoid the mine and open all the squares, it's clear.
11:32You mean you open everything but the squares, right?
11:35Yes.
11:36If you click somewhere in the squares, there is a bomb, a number, or nothing.
11:41The number is a hint.
11:43That's difficult.
11:44Here I go.
11:46First, Yumeki will try Minesweeper.
11:50I'm not good at the fourth one.
11:52It's over. It's over.
11:53It's over. It's over.
11:54It's over. It's over.
11:55It's over. It's over.
11:57I pulled it.
11:58Why?
11:59That was fast.
12:00That was fast.
12:01I was out on the second try.
12:03I'm not good at anything.
12:06Actually, there is a rule where the bomb is placed.
12:12First, remember that the number indicates the number of mines hidden in the eight squares around the square.
12:22For example, if the number is 1, there is only one mine around it.
12:27If the number is 3, there are three mines.
12:31If the number is 4, there are three mines.
12:34Let's use this rule to build a flag with a right-click and proceed with careful reasoning where there is a bomb.
12:45By the way, right-click is used to build a flag.
12:50Windows users use right-click.
12:54Who came up with right-click?
12:56Do you know?
12:57Did someone come up with right-click?
12:59Yes, there is.
13:00Japanese.
13:01Correct.
13:03Why?
13:04There is a Japanese member who is making Windows 95.
13:09He came up with right-click.
13:11Double-click.
13:12Double-click.
13:14He came up with it.
13:15Japanese.
13:17Can you practice right-click with Minesweeper?
13:20Yes, you can.
13:21It's very convenient and easy to understand for people who are new to the mouse.
13:25In addition, everyone plays games that are in Windows.
13:28Everyone is addicted to one of them.
13:31For example, Solitaire.
13:32Everyone is addicted to it.
13:34It depends on which one you are addicted to.
13:37By the way, do you know how many Guinness World Records there are?
13:40Does that mean the length of time it took?
13:42That's right.
13:44It's an incredible number of seconds.
13:46It depends on the number of squares.
13:49It took me until I cleared all the beginner, intermediate and advanced levels.
13:53All of them?
13:54It took me until I cleared all three of them.
13:56Then, how many seconds is impossible?
13:59It doesn't have to be tens of seconds, does it?
14:01It takes time to think about it.
14:04That's right.
14:07Let's say you played one level in the first minute.
14:13In the intermediate level...
14:15No, three minutes is impossible.
14:17Let's make it one minute at a time.
14:18That's a terrible record.
14:20That's true.
14:21By the way, this record has not been broken for 10 years.
14:23I see.
14:25Yoshida-san, do you know?
14:26Two and a half minutes.
14:27Two and a half minutes.
14:28Two and a half minutes.
14:29I'm a leader.
14:30Are you sure?
14:31Yes, I'm a leader.
14:32It's 38.65 seconds.
14:33What?
14:35Are you kidding me?
14:36It's 38.65 seconds.
14:37Why?
14:38By the way, in the online ranking,
14:41it's only the beginner's record.
14:43It's the beginner's record.
14:44I see.
14:45That's right.
14:46It's 0.26 seconds.
14:47What do you mean?
14:48How did you click it?
14:49That's the best record I've ever seen.
14:52That's right.
14:53Really?
14:54That's right.
14:55Really?
14:56You guys click it like this.
14:58If you get it right, you get it wrong.
14:59If you don't get it right, you don't get it right.
15:01You decide the number in an instant and click it.
15:04That's amazing.
15:05I wonder what kind of power is needed.
15:09The Guinness World Record time of Minesweeper is 38.65 seconds.
15:15It seems that it has not been broken for more than 10 years,
15:18so please try it.
15:22Let's move on to the next one.
15:24The next one is Solitia.
15:26Here it is.
15:27I love it.
15:28I love it, too.
15:29I love Solitia.
15:30I think it's the most familiar.
15:32I'm glad.
15:34Next, we will play Solitia, a popular game that is played more than 100 million times a day.
15:45The rules are simple.
15:47If you can line up the same cards from 1 to 13 in the four squares on the top right, you win.
15:57However, in the lower field, you have to stack red and black cards alternately, so it's a deep game that requires strategy.
16:09By the way, Solitia is a game made by an intern at Microsoft.
16:15What?
16:16Isn't the intern still a full-time employee?
16:18No, he's not.
16:20Isn't that amazing?
16:21He made it by himself while he was working.
16:24By himself?
16:25Yes.
16:26Then, what is he doing now?
16:31He can make something like this.
16:33I think he's bored.
16:35In other words.
16:37What do you think he's doing now?
16:39Hmm.
16:40If he's a full-time intern, I think he'll be able to make a lot of money if he transfers to the game industry.
16:50Without working.
16:52He's a programmer.
16:53Programmer.
16:54Programmer.
16:55Final answer.
16:56Yes.
16:57Can I say that he's a programmer?
16:59Yes, you can.
17:00Can I say that he's a programmer?
17:01Yes.
17:02He's an apple farmer.
17:03He makes apple cider.
17:04See?
17:05He's bored.
17:06He's bored.
17:07He's not working at all.
17:08He's a farmer.
17:09He's making apple cider.
17:10Yes, apple cider.
17:11He's doing quite a few things.
17:12Not just apple cider.
17:13Apple cider.
17:14And he asked questions about Solitaire.
17:15Solitaire is the acronym for a single player card game.
17:16Wow.
17:17So it's called Solitaire now, but there's a different name for it than Windows now.
17:18Do you understand?
17:19I understand.
17:20I'm not sure.
17:21Is it quite...
17:22It's a totally different name.
17:23Yes, it is.
17:24I see.
17:25I understand.
17:26He's a programmer.
17:27He's a programmer.
17:28He's a programmer.
17:29He's a programmer.
17:30He's a programmer.
17:31He's a programmer.
17:32He's a programmer.
17:33He's a programmer.
17:34He's a programmer.
17:35It's a completely different name.
17:37Is it like this?
17:38Hint!
17:39Is it younger than this?
17:41How many characters?
17:43Six characters, katakana.
17:45Katakana?
17:46Is there a katakana called Hitori?
17:49No, there isn't.
17:50Hitori isn't Japanese.
17:52Right.
17:53Lonely?
17:56It doesn't fit.
17:57It doesn't fit.
17:58The first character.
17:59Ku.
18:00Ku.
18:02Ku.
18:03Ku.
18:04What's the second character?
18:05Kuro.
18:06Kuro.
18:07Kuro?
18:09It's a bit similar.
18:10It's close.
18:11It's quite close.
18:12It's a bit similar.
18:13I can't move.
18:15It would be nice if it was 1.
18:16I'll move it here.
18:18Oh, it's here.
18:19I'll move it here.
18:20I'll move it here.
18:41The fashion point.
18:43Yes.
18:44Yoshida, please tell us.
18:45I want to be a star.
18:49Oh, so you wanted all of them?
18:51Yes, I did.
18:52They're so cute.
18:53And look at this one.
18:54This one was in the middle of all the earrings.
18:56You wanted me to wear it?
18:58Yes, it was so cute.
19:00So cute.
19:03Now, Hayashi-san.
19:04Yes.
19:05Thin clothes.
19:07That's right.
19:09I'm totally fine with it,
19:13but the viewers might think it's too thin and make me nervous.
19:20I'm a mature person, so I like it when my clothes are a bit fuzzy.
19:24My mom loves my clothes, so I'm happy.
19:27It looks great on you.
19:31Now, Yuuki-san.
19:32Yes.
19:33Thin clothes.
19:35I thought so too.
19:37It's so cute that I don't care if it's thin.
19:42It's got my favorite blue in it.
19:46It's my first time seeing it.
19:47I didn't say much, but I really like blue.
19:51I'm very happy today. Thank you very much.
19:55Do you know what the current name of the Trump game is?
20:09Cro...
20:10Cro?
20:11Cro...
20:13Codile.
20:15It's become an animal.
20:17It's difficult.
20:18I don't know.
20:19I'll give you the answer.
20:21Clondike.
20:23Isn't it close?
20:25It's close.
20:26Isn't it close?
20:2780% crocodile.
20:2880% crocodile.
20:3110 minutes have passed since Ayati played Solitia.
20:37But it's hard to clear.
20:40By the way, Solitia has a sin.
20:42That's right.
20:43Sin?
20:44You can't clear it.
20:47Solitia also affects the design of the first card.
20:51You can't move the card anymore due to a mistake in the arrangement of the cards.
20:58To be honest, it's a sin.
21:00But I don't want you to be a sin.
21:04Unfortunately, Ayati couldn't clear Solitia.
21:08Let's get back on track and move on to the next game.
21:11What's next?
21:123D pinball.
21:14It's fun.
21:15Have you ever played it?
21:16Yes.
21:17Have you?
21:18No.
21:19No, right?
21:20Have you ever played pinball?
21:22No.
21:23At a game center?
21:24Is there still a pinball machine?
21:25Yes, there is.
21:26It's in Moomin Valley Park.
21:28What?
21:29Moomin Valley Park.
21:31Oh, there it is.
21:32That's how you say Moomin.
21:35I'm sorry.
21:36What?
21:37There was a pinball game in Moomin Valley Park.
21:41There was?
21:42Yes, there was.
21:43There are fans all over the world, so there are places that are making new ones.
21:47In Osaka, there is a place called Amemura.
21:50There is a store called Big Step where there are 100 pinballs in a row.
21:54It's so popular that there is a specialty store.
21:57You like people.
21:58I like people I like.
22:00Have you seen it?
22:01Yes.
22:02I've never played it.
22:03To put it simply,
22:05you use a bar called a flipper under the screen to aim for a high score so that you don't drop the ball.
22:12Oh.
22:13Yes.
22:14If you choose a game from Windows 10 or 11,
22:18you can't play it unless you download it yourself.
22:21You can't play everything from the beginning.
22:23If you look at the notice, you can play everything for free.
22:26If you have an environment where you can play,
22:29I think it's a good idea to try it.
22:31That's true.
22:32So, it's time for the next episode.
22:34Oh!
22:35How was it, Yoshida?
22:37It was so much fun.
22:39I was able to remember the memories I was about to forget.
22:44It was a few hours that made me feel nostalgic.
22:50That's great.
22:55I think you've played a lot of games that you've never played before.
22:59When I was asked how old the console was,
23:04I think it was Windows 7.
23:07I've been using Windows for a long time,
23:10so I think I've been using it for a long time.
23:14I think it was Windows 7.
23:17So, I thought I could play it if I opened it.
23:20I just didn't find it,
23:22so I thought it was in there.
23:25I wanted to look for it.
23:27All right.
23:31How was it, Yuki?
23:32I agree.
23:33If I had it here, I would have been able to find it.
23:35I see.
23:36I said 1 and 2.
23:37Oh, did you?
23:38Oh, I see.
23:39I got it.
23:40I got it.
23:41I was shocked.
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24:00For example, when I was on the plane,
24:02when I opened the game section,
24:04there were a lot of games like Solitaire that I used on my computer.
24:09I thought it was because it was common and popular all over the world.
24:14Now I can communicate with a lot of people online.
24:20Through the game, I can connect with people from other countries,
24:26other prefectures, and other people.
24:32Once again, I felt that the world is so big.
24:40Next time, I will try to make a fighting game.
24:43It's been a while since I did programming,
24:46but it was a little difficult and fun.
24:49Here we go.
24:52Everyone, please watch it.