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00:00Of course you don't forget the past. What's that silly thing that they tell you when you invest?
00:05right
00:06Those past results may or may not be indicative of future
00:12Happenings or whatever the hell that stupid phrase is I'll give you two for that. No, I'm not going for something here
00:17I'm just with this
00:20What I'm saying right you want to know what happened, but I'm not I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this
00:26I refuse to allow other people to do this on our radio station Steve
00:32Ashburner NBA calm NBA TV will play for you what he said he finger wagged the Warriors and
00:40He said enjoy the honeymoon
00:42He may have a point
00:44But that's not even the point like I this is one thing. I'm very careful to try
00:51I know it's hard, but I try to do this in life
00:53Let's say you got a good buddy who who who meets somebody
00:58You've never met them before and he tells you my god this guy what?
01:03What a jerk what an a this is what he did to me. He did that to me
01:06He did this to me over here. I can't believe this guy when you meet that person for the first time
01:11How you feeling about him a little jaded?
01:14Maybe right, you know
01:16But my mind is open enough to understand that things can be different
01:21You know that I love horse racing and when you go to bet on a horse race you look at the past performances
01:27yep, and especially when you deal with a
01:30Maiden race which is
01:31Horses who have never won before and you might have six horses who have never won before and you look at their past
01:37Performances and you try to figure out who's close and who's good and who's got no shot
01:42and that's a little bit like this where Jimmy Butler's got a past performance and he's got a
01:48Chicago run which was pretty good and then bad and Minnesota. He blew it up
01:55Philadelphia it was a brief one race
01:57Whatever. He must have come off late six or whatever it was and it was a bad run and then Miami
02:03Miami's the one that's curious because it was really really good almost
02:08Incredible, but it was really really good and then in the end it got bad and then now the Warriors claimed him
02:14So now the Warriors are there the fifth team to have Jimmy Butler and you got to figure out like who's the real Jimmy?
02:22Yeah, I'm gonna judge Jimmy Butler's attitude and who he is as a person
02:26Starting now with the Warriors that doesn't mean that what happened before didn't happen
02:31I can have my feelings about that
02:33But his Warriors tenure starts now and I am NOT going to
02:39Think about anything that happened in the future because let's not act like we're experts on it
02:44And let's not act like there's one side. This is one thing that was curious to me
02:48I might have even agreed with some of the takes that were out there Shaq had won famously a lot of former NBA players Jimmy
02:56Jimmy
02:57Jimmy you can't do your Shaq. No, I don't really have a Shaq can't quit on your team. You can't three
03:03You can't quit on your team
03:06Why do we do this to players? I?
03:09Don't get it once and for all what is this don't quit on your team thing the team quits on them
03:17all
03:18the time
03:21Constantly not in the end. Yes
03:23Well, I mean in one way or another does Dennis Schroeder feel like he should be there for the team my god
03:31He's gets traded every Tuesday. He's been traded five times in the last year. I would like that. That's all I'm saying
03:37I know it's not apples to apples
03:40Because what a team does and what a player does in terms of disloyalty, they're different acts, but they're still disloyal
03:46I just I don't understand. Sometimes we do this to athletes where we ask of them to do something
03:53We would never do we would never look at ourselves that way if we felt like we were being
03:58Disenfranchised at work if we were being held down by people if we were being unloved
04:04Unwanted uncared for we'd speak up and we'd start bucking to whatever level that we can and we would look for another job
04:12Is there another company in this space that would have me and I've done it
04:17I've done it and I've worked my way out of the middle of a contract before sure
04:21So like what I don't mind me do that to Jimmy Butler. I don't know
04:25I'm not an expert on what they did but something clearly ticked him off and I can't sit here today and tell you that he's
04:31Wrong. I don't know what upset him. I can't sit here and tell you that Miami's wrong
04:36And I'm not either
04:37I was to guess if I was to like point the finger on who was more to blame
04:42I would pointed at Jimmy Butler because of you know, what we know from the outside and again
04:47We weren't there on the inside
04:49but what we've seen through the tea leaves and the reports and all the rest of it was Jimmy Butler wanted a
04:55Contract extension and they said nah, we're good
04:58And then he said well, I'm gonna take my Butler and go home
05:02That to me is the thumbnail sketch. What happened? I think it's way more complex than that
05:07Let's not forget that at certain points Miami sent him home now
05:12I know that everyone will go over who started it. Well now we're on the playground in fourth grade, right?
05:17Like Miami sent him home for part of this part of it was Jimmy not what he missed a plane like sure
05:24We I'm not saying that his behavior was perfect by any stretch
05:29But what I don't think we know is the premise to this number one and number two
05:35Let's say let's let me take what you just said and let's pretend that we know it to be fact
05:40Jimmy asked for an extension the heat said we're not playing around with that. And then Jimmy said well now I'm uncomfortable
05:46I'm uncomfortable playing right now. What's so bad about that?
05:50We watch players do that in sports all the time all the time I
05:56Mean, what is any contract holdout in August in the NFL?
06:00You won't extend me. That's August. But whatever that's not in the regular season doesn't matter. These are games
06:05It doesn't matter a lot of them do stretch into the regular season
06:10This is not August this is no like the middle of the NBA season NFL games
06:16People miss Hassan Redick did it this year you didn't do it
06:20No, he didn't and Trent didn't do it because the Niners gave him what he wanted, right?
06:24But would he have if the Niners didn't I don't know
06:27Yeah, we don't know and I would argue that the preseason is still very much team activities because August does affect September
06:33We watched it
06:37Of the season where I mean you got Jimmy Butler who's a key piece in your team and you're right in the middle of a
06:43Pack-in the East and then you decide that you know, you're good. You're out and so and the first one was conduct
06:51Detrimental to the team. We don't know what that was. That might have been a
06:55You know MF. I'm out of here. And if I don't get my bag, then I'm not playing whatever it was
07:01They decided you know what you need to go away for seven games. Yeah, that's a lot
07:05So whatever he did to get a seven game
07:08Draymond green called Kevin Durant his teammate the b-word and he got one game Jimmy Butler got seven games
07:16Right, right. This became an untenable situation right before we continue this discussion. Let's let you know
07:22The backbone of the whole thing which is a conversation that took place on steininger earlier today
07:28With a gentleman by the name of Steve Ashburner who's with NBA comm and NBA TV NBA analyst
07:35They get into a conversation about Jimmy. We'll play all of it for you. However, this is the one that for me
07:41Really got me going where he says essentially that he's disappointed in the Warriors for bailing Jimmy out
07:48first he said he would go to any of the
07:5129 teams other than Miami then he said nah to Milwaukee not to Golden State
07:55He wanted Phoenix because he believed they would pay him given the extension and then the Warriors
08:00I mean frankly personally, I I find it disappointing that the Warriors satisfied that sort of low character, you know those
08:09Strategy in terms of getting what he wanted. It's like being undercut
08:13You're trying to discipline of your child
08:15And I'm fine putting in those terms because of the way he's behaving you're trying to discipline your child and then your spouse
08:20So no, no, no, no, don't worry about what dad or mom said do it this way, you know high-class organization
08:26But to me that was a localized decision
08:28They got what they wanted I guess and if money is no object, that's fine
08:31I'll just say enjoy it now because two years from now or even a year from now
08:36If Jimmy Butler thinks that he should have a contract paying him until age 42 or 43
08:41He could go through this whole thing again and fine
08:45fine like I first of all is
08:49completely asinine
08:51to suggest that a
08:53Professional sports team should not look out for its own interest. Thank you above everything else
09:00And and they basically he's he's insinuating they should collude
09:05With the rest of the league exactly to punish Jimmy Butler for stuff that they don't even know about
09:10so you walk into Goodwill and you see a jacket that you know retails for a
09:15$1,000 and you look at it and you pull the tag and it's
09:19$58.99 and you think you know what? I can't buy this
09:23Because man somebody got rid of it and they shouldn't have and it's worth more than
09:29$58.99 I shouldn't buy this. That's what the Warriors did. They saw a player that they could get for
09:3525 cents on the dollar because if Jimmy was not disgruntled and you tried to trade for him
09:41It would have cost you more than slo-mo
09:44Schroeder Lindy
09:46Wiggins, okay, by the way, I'll do you one better you ever go to the grocery store and I'll see you in the aisles
09:51yep, there go to the grocery store and
09:54Accidentally one of the employees there some 17 year old acne face kid stuck a sale sign on the wrong product
10:01Got he and then you go and get your English muffins and you want it for 299 and the beep is 499
10:08Oh, we're about to have words up in here. We're calling customer service over
10:14You need to refund me my two dollars even though you damn well know that thing is not supposed to be priced
10:20299 we all do this luckily with the for you app we get savings up and down the aisle comes right out of your
10:28of your app immediately
10:31Anyway, no the point is well taken
10:34I all I'm saying and like here's another way to say it check this out and I get that a lot of you feel this
10:40Way, and it's not even that I'm against you
10:42But nine to five in all caps just wrote you're getting millions to play a game go play
10:48Why can't I rebut that and say the Miami Heat are getting paid?
10:54billions
10:55For Jimmy to go play for them. Why don't they play?
11:00That's all he's doing now. Listen, did he handle it perfectly?
11:04Looks like not and I'm not an expert on Jimmy Butler and Miami and their relationship
11:10But I do know this
11:12everybody's getting paid and
11:14Everybody should be looking out for what they're worth and they should not be afraid to speak up for that and act on that
11:22I firmly firmly believe that well
11:25This is where you and I differ because he's under contract and he had a player option
11:30So he just didn't want to play for them anymore. And that's where so fine
11:35It's it's allowable, but it's not necessarily the best way to go about it
11:40You can go about it. However, you want to go about it warriors
11:43Didn't want Andrew Wiggins to play for him anymore. Try to give him away last year, right?
11:46They tried to give him away a bunch of time. Yeah, so he was under contract for many more years and he still is