Killers Caught On Camera S02E08
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00:00This time on Killers Caught on Camera, in the U.S., Florida, a 13-year-old girl is discovered
00:11with more than 100 stab wounds. There's one stab wound for every second. That's almost
00:19two minutes of just sheer violence. And in Colorado, a student goes missing after accepting
00:27a ride home in a windowless white van. Dad turns detective.
00:34The smell of bleach was so overpowering, it just stopped me in my tracks.
00:43Just sound like something bad is happening to her.
00:46We know what happened because the video tells us what happened.
00:49I heard some gunshots.
00:50Drop it! Whatever it is! Drop it!
00:53That is not true that I chilled my wife.
00:55The camera doesn't lie.
01:03Jacksonville, Florida.
01:0820 miles south of the city lies Durban Crossing, a newly built, close-knit community where kids
01:16outnumbered adults, and crime was rare.
01:19It was home to Stacey and Forrest Bailey and their five children.
01:25We've always told our kids that the best thing that we could ever give them was a sibling.
01:31And they've always taken that to heart.
01:34They've always been incredibly close with one another.
01:3713-year-old Tristan was the youngest of the Bailey clan.
01:40I would describe her as fun, loving, super kind, and a little bit sassy.
01:48She's also a really popular girl.
01:51She could be friends with everyone.
01:54Tristan gave the world her best.
01:56She was very outgoing.
01:58She wanted to put a smile on people's faces.
02:00She was very energetic.
02:02She was very determined and extremely supportive.
02:05From a young age, Tristan was determined to excel at cheerleading.
02:12In, like, kindergarten, first grade, she kept saying, I want to be on the cheerleading team.
02:17And she taught herself how to do so many skills that I couldn't say no to her.
02:25And the rest was history.
02:27She ended up on three teams.
02:29She just dedicated her life to that.
02:31Life as a family of seven was incredibly busy.
02:37But they always made time to be together at the weekends.
02:41We had what was known as Bailey Family Fun Day.
02:44And I can tell you that there was nothing better in the world.
02:49Just hearing the family interact with each other, seeing all the personalities come out to play.
02:55And it was just filled with so much fun and laughter.
03:01Saturday, May 8th, 2021.
03:06The Bailey Family went for a meal together.
03:09It was the night before Mother's Day.
03:12We went out and had a great dinner together.
03:16And then we went home.
03:19I remember when I went to bed that evening telling Tristan that I loved her.
03:26Sunday, May 9th, 2021.
03:36Mother's Day morning.
03:38Tristan and her sister Sophia were supposed to make a special breakfast for their mom.
03:43I wasn't allowed to come out of my room.
03:45But it got to be like 9.30 that day.
03:48And I was like, gosh, I can't sit in here anymore.
03:50So I went out and Sophia was making this breakfast by herself.
03:59And I was like, where's Tristan?
04:01And she said, she's still sleeping.
04:05And I asked my son to tell Tristan to come downstairs.
04:08And he came downstairs and he said, Mom, I didn't see Tristan in her room.
04:13Instantly, something hit me that I was like, that's weird.
04:20I checked every room and we started yelling.
04:24She wasn't there.
04:25So I went out the front door and I called the police.
04:29I need somebody to come to my home right now.
04:32I have a missing job.
04:34She's 13.
04:3613 years old?
04:37Yeah.
04:38The last time my her sister saw her was at midnight.
04:41Was last night?
04:42Yep.
04:44Take a big breath from me.
04:45I need you to be at your house.
04:46I have units coming to you as best as they can, okay?
04:52Kurt Hannon was a sergeant with the St. Johns County Sheriff's Office.
04:57The first thing we try and do is find out who do they have contact with normally?
05:01Who's the last person that saw them?
05:03Where's the last place they were seen?
05:06Police interviewed Tristan's sister, Sophia,
05:09who was the last person to see Tristan at around midnight.
05:12She came downstairs and then she went out to the garage.
05:19And then when I went to see what she was doing, she was on FaceTime with a boy.
05:25Okay.
05:26And then after that, I didn't see her.
05:28Okay.
05:29Did you just assume she just went upstairs or?
05:31Yeah, I thought she just went upstairs.
05:33Okay.
05:33But it became clear that Tristan had left home just after midnight.
05:39At 12.02 a.m., she was spotted on surveillance footage a couple of streets away from her home.
05:51People in the local community did everything they could to help in the search for Tristan.
05:56Our community was unbelievable.
05:59I don't know how many people set aside their Mother's Day plans to help find Tristan.
06:09Jennifer Dunton is an assistant state attorney.
06:13As her parents are reaching out to her friends, trying to find out who she could have gone out with,
06:19they discovered a name of Trey.
06:22Law enforcement officers responded out to Trey's house, and he said, no, I haven't seen her.
06:27They left.
06:28They kind of followed up on leads again.
06:30Trey just kept coming up.
06:31So they went back to Trey's house, and at that point, he decided to tell them that, okay,
06:38she was at my house last night with my friend, Aiden Fucci,
06:43and that they had both left together, Aiden and Tristan, at about 1 a.m.
06:50Police tracked down Aiden.
06:53Aiden's story was that he and Tristan went down her street to her house, and Aiden kept on walking.
06:58And they left about 1 o'clock in the morning.
06:59And he said he got home about 3 o'clock, 3.30.
07:03Wouldn't take two hours for him to get back home to his house.
07:06It's not that far away.
07:08So he kind of pressed him on his timeline and said, well, you know,
07:10why did it take you so long to get home?
07:12And he said, well, I was just kind of walking around for a while.
07:14He's like, well, show me where you're walking around at.
07:17The police took Aiden in a patrol car
07:20so he could show them the route that he and Tristan took after leaving Trey's house.
07:26They took Aiden to Trey's house and then put both of them in a vehicle
07:30and drove them around and left them for a period of time.
07:35In the patrol car, Aiden posted a video on social media.
07:40It's in a f***ing cop car, guys.
07:44Tripping, dude.
07:45Having fun in a f***ing cop car.
07:48Yep.
07:50Aiden is laughing, joking, very lighthearted.
07:53He's saying, Tristan, where are you?
07:55They're showing the firearms and things that are in the police officer's vehicle.
08:00God damn, dude, it's flashbangs.
08:02Not normal behavior in those circumstances.
08:07As well as posting on social media,
08:12Aiden's version of events from the night before started to change.
08:16He said, you know, what I said earlier wasn't true.
08:21Aiden's new story was given to the patrol officer in the police car.
08:25Are you willing to kind of give me a statement about what's going on?
08:30Yeah, so we were at Trey's house and then I stayed there until probably like 1.50 a.m.
08:36And then I was really late to be home, so I just had to leave.
08:39Or else my mom would like seriously just kill me.
08:42We started walking home and then next to like where that brick wall starts up there.
08:46Okay.
08:46Is where like she touched my s*** and I like pushed her off me real hard.
08:51And I walked away out of anger.
08:53All right.
08:55He said they were kissing.
08:58She grabbed him and he didn't like it and he pushed her down.
09:01She hit her head and he left in the opposite direction and doesn't know what happened to her.
09:05That obviously raised investigators' suspicions.
09:07So he's detained.
09:10Changing your story isn't inherently an indicator of guilt.
09:14But if you change important elements of the story and you keep changing it,
09:18then that starts to be correctly interpreted as evidence that something's wrong.
09:23This person's intentionally concealing something from you.
09:29While Aiden was detained, the community was still frantically searching for Tristan.
09:36At 6 p.m. that evening, 18 hours after Tristan went missing,
09:41911 dispatchers received a harrowing call.
09:44Hello?
09:46Hi, is everything okay?
09:49No, I've found the missing girl.
09:51Okay, where are you?
09:52I'm at the end of Saddlestone Drive in Durban Crossing.
09:55There's a retention pond in there and she's probably 25, 30 feet here in the woods just laying here.
10:01And she's not moving, correct?
10:04No, there's bugs flying all over.
10:05I don't think she's alive.
10:09Police responded immediately.
10:12It was clear that she had been stabbed.
10:17There was some blood in the surrounding area.
10:20She had her cell phone on the ground, I believe a vape pen, some money laying around her.
10:26It's one of those things where I remember exactly where I was and I can remember the feeling of just the sinking, gut-wrenching,
10:36oh my God, this is not what we were expecting at all.
10:40This is now a homicide investigation.
10:42A dive team searched the pond for evidence.
10:48They recovered a knife with a missing tip.
10:53Tristan's body was taken for an autopsy.
10:57Following a six-hour autopsy, I have to go and tell, you know, a mother and a father and a family that their daughter has been murdered.
11:03I remember a police showed up at my house.
11:10They asked me if I could go inside and I begged them not to take me in there.
11:17Because I knew if I went in there that they were in and told me she wasn't, she wasn't okay.
11:32How do you tell somebody that their daughter has been stabbed 114 times?
11:42If you think that there's one stab wound for every second, that's almost two minutes of just sheer violence.
11:51Detective Hannon told my husband and I, I just remember screaming uncontrollably, and then my family just fell apart at that point.
12:06The police needed to work out exactly what happened.
12:10The area was well covered with surveillance cameras, which helped the police to build a timeline.
12:16The day before Tristan's body was found, Saturday, May 8th, Aidan Fucci was caught on camera close to 7pm, skateboarding around the area with his girlfriend.
12:34One of the questions that we try to answer, if he's a suspect, is what was he wearing?
12:38So here, we see him in the afternoon, he's wearing a dark-colored hoodie, blue jeans, and he's got white sneakers on.
12:44So those are things we may be looking for in the future.
12:47He is skateboarding, and he's going towards Trey's house.
12:52So this house here is Trey's house, and you'll see Aidan coming up on the skateboard.
13:00The video from the rain doorbell footage is very clear.
13:03You can very clearly identify Aidan Fucci in this video.
13:07Aidan arrived at Trey's house just after 8pm on Saturday, May 8th.
13:11Aidan is just coming over to Trey's house.
13:16At this point in time, Tristan is not coming to the picture yet.
13:20But crucial footage was recovered after dark.
13:24Just after 1am on Sunday, May 8th, the same time Aidan and Tristan left Trey's house.
13:30These videos, they show two figures who we determined to be Aidan and Tristan.
13:37This is the last known video footage that we were able to find of her still alive,
13:42and they're walking towards the direction of where she was ultimately murdered.
13:46An hour and a half later, the same camera captured an individual in a hurry.
13:52He's running in a direction now, away from the pond,
13:56and this is the first time anybody returns from that area.
14:00This one was key to us because it shows that one person carrying something in his hand.
14:04On Sunday, May 9th, at 8pm, two hours after Tristan's body was found,
14:17Aidan Fucci was brought in for further questioning, accompanied by his parents.
14:21What's this place?
14:23It's a holding room.
14:25As they waited for an attorney, their conversation was recorded.
14:29His parents made comments to him that they knew that the room was recorded,
14:41and they told him not to say anything.
14:43You know they found this girl, right?
14:44Where?
14:46In our neighborhood.
14:47Down our main street.
14:50Is she good?
14:51No, she's not.
14:52No, she's dead.
14:54That's why this is very important.
14:56It's all in you right now.
14:57It's all in my problem.
15:01You were the last one seen with her.
15:03So it's facing you right now, son.
15:05So however you talk, you breathe, you think, then you respond.
15:12This is very serious, Aidan.
15:14And then they started asking him questions that kind of gave us some more insight
15:18into what was going on and what may have happened.
15:21Are you not scared?
15:23Not really.
15:25Not really?
15:25I'm a little scared, but...
15:29If he didn't do nothing, he doesn't be worried about...
15:33If he didn't do nothing right.
15:34No, sir.
15:36It's a hell of a bad time, bad spot.
15:41Leaving a 13-year-old girl by herself in the middle of the streets at 3 o'clock in the morning
15:45or whatever time, it's not smart, bro.
15:49Did you kiss or do anything with this girl?
15:52Be honest as you can to them.
15:54I kissed her.
15:57Anything further?
15:59Mm-mm.
16:00By the time he's in the holding cell, you can see his demeanor is quite different from the first time we see him.
16:07And he's taking it more seriously, although possibly still not seriously enough,
16:11which is why his parents then come in and say, basically, smarten up.
16:15This is a really big deal.
16:17The digital forensics team also retrieved footage from the Fucci family home in the early hours of May 9th.
16:28By that statement, that basically identified himself as the person carrying his shoes in that video.
16:50We saw the person in the previous video carrying something in his hands,
16:54and now we see a person coming to Aiden's house carrying shoes
16:58that we can clearly see has a black Nike swoosh on it.
17:01This was a key foundational piece of evidence right here.
17:08Did they ever say why it took you so long to get home?
17:12Mm-hmm.
17:13Why?
17:14May I ask anyone?
17:15Why?
17:16Why?
17:16They say I walked around.
17:18By yourself?
17:19Mm-hmm.
17:20So it was clear to us that his parents knew he was lying.
17:24You know, they're sort of very skeptical.
17:26They're questioning him.
17:28Did you just walk really slow home?
17:30No.
17:31They understand the gravity.
17:33He doesn't seem to or doesn't care.
17:35While Aiden and his parents were in the holding room,
17:38the police searched the family home and looked through the security footage.
17:43Unusual behavior by Aiden's mom was discovered by police.
17:47Here in the video, we see Crystal.
17:49She's going upstairs to Aiden's room.
17:50She's just come out of Aiden's room carrying something in her hands
17:56and is now in the bathroom at the sink.
17:59And we believe, based on her motions, that she's scrubbing something in the sink.
18:02Here we can see it looks like a pair of jeans.
18:05Aiden and his mom were unaware that the police had discovered
18:09unusual behavior recorded upstairs.
18:12She's asking him, were you wearing blue jeans or were you wearing khakis?
18:30And then she tries to convince him that he's wearing khakis.
18:38And then she goes back to the jeans and asks if there's anything on them.
18:45And he kind of gave her this look.
18:46You can hear it in the audio.
18:52She whispers, his mother is trying to cover up for him and help him out and protect him.
19:03It's an ethical dilemma.
19:04And we know from research settings that when presented with saving even five people
19:10or your own family member or loved one, most people will choose their own.
19:14And so when these kinds of dilemmas happen, we often act in ways that defend and protect
19:20the ones we love, even if it's directly harmful to other children and other people.
19:26At Aiden's house, the police recovered vital pieces of evidence.
19:32He had a closet in his room and there was a dresser pushed back in his closet.
19:38To the right of that dresser was like just a large pile of clothing
19:42that you'd expect a teenager to have.
19:45And as detectives dug through that, they found the white Nike tennis shoes that were damp.
19:54They found a piece of paper that looked like it had red blood stains on it.
19:58We pulled that dresser out.
20:00Shoved behind it was a white t-shirt that appeared to have red bradish stains.
20:05And then a pair of jeans, also damp, that appeared to have some staining on them.
20:10There were several knives in his room.
20:12And there was an empty knife sheath in that same dresser.
20:28All the items are tested for presumptive blood.
20:30And the shirt, the shoes, the piece of paper, and the jeans come back that has got blood on it.
20:37His bathroom sink, drain, and pipes also tested positive for blood.
20:43A recorded interview with Aiden's girlfriend revealed Aiden's fascination with knives.
20:50Aiden kept knives for protection.
20:54Well, there was mainly two that he would have on them.
20:58It had a skull on it.
21:00And he called it picker.
21:03Okay.
21:04There was another one.
21:06It was, like, made out of wood.
21:08He called that one poker.
21:11Okay.
21:11He talked about wanting to kill me.
21:16Sometimes he would take his knife and pretend to stab me with it.
21:21Or sometimes he would come up behind me, put it against my throat, and pretend to slit my throat.
21:29But I wasn't scared or anything.
21:31You trusted him.
21:32Yeah.
21:32I think a lot of teens quite like taboo things.
21:39And knives can be one manifestation of that.
21:42I think that there's a social clout that comes with that, that a lot of teenagers would enjoy.
21:47Aiden's girlfriend also explained how much he talked about killing.
21:53Did you ever hear Aiden discuss having a certain plan that he wanted to carry out?
21:57He said that he would just walk at night and find, like, a random person and just drag them in the woods and stab them.
22:08Okay.
22:09He said that he thinks it's going to happen soon.
22:14He said I should expect it within a month.
22:18Aiden and I had a dark sense of humor, and I never took it seriously.
22:24Right.
22:24Homicidal ideation is defined as fantasizing about murdering somebody.
22:31And research on children, even in extreme circumstances, has found that only about 0.09% of children fantasize about killing people.
22:41And that matters because it's really unusual to even have those thoughts.
22:47Never mind to go through with it.
22:49While having a collection of knives isn't typical, I'd still say it's not inherently suspicious.
22:54But once you add in enacting fantasies of killing people, once you've got that level of planning, then we're talking about something much more severe.
23:03The autopsy revealed the full extent of Tristan's last moments.
23:10It was discovered that she had 114 sharp force wounds, some of which are stab wounds, some of which are slashing wounds.
23:19A large portion of those were defensive in nature, meaning on her arms, her forearms.
23:26A majority of them were surrounded by her head, her neck, her upper back.
23:31So clearly, a vicious attack that appeared to come from above, front and back, with her defending herself.
23:39At one point, when the knife entered her skull, the tip of it broke off.
23:44So during the examination, the medical examiner actually found a little silver metal fragment, like a triangle, and removed that from her skull.
23:52This was the missing piece of the jigsaw.
24:00The knife and the tip were matched to be one and the same.
24:04The surveillance footage was crucial for building the case against Aiden Fucci.
24:15Surveillance video is monumental.
24:17The best part about it is, is you can't refute it, because it shows exactly what happened.
24:23In collecting all the videos together, we're building this trail of breadcrumbs.
24:27And so we're actually able to assemble a video timeline, if you will, from Trey's house, going in the direction of that pond, and then only one person running.
24:38And so that video footage was key in determining the timeline of events.
24:43Cameras don't lie.
24:44People lie.
24:45So you're able to verify stories and see things that only the cameras can see.
24:52You definitely wouldn't have had a complete story without the cameras.
24:57With overwhelming evidence against him, Aiden Fucci was charged with first-degree murder.
25:06Aiden was only 14 years old at the time of the murder.
25:09But due to the brutality of the crime, he was charged as an adult.
25:14Thankfully, the judge really weighed everything and came out with him being in a state where he should never be able to hurt anybody else again.
25:23Aiden Fucci was sentenced to life in prison.
25:27In court, the judge said, in quotes, this crime had no motive.
25:33What's unusual about this case is in some ways that there's no mitigating circumstances.
25:38So it's not that she rejected him and he killed her in anger.
25:41The only reason he did it was because he wanted to.
25:45And that is something that is harder to grasp, but psychologically is certainly still motive.
25:50We have no evidence that it was against Tristan, if that makes sense, that she was picked for any reason or the other, other than opportunity.
25:59Aiden Fucci's mother also faced charges.
26:02We ultimately charged her with tampering with evidence, which is a third-degree felony in Florida.
26:08She was sentenced after Mr. Fucci to a period of county jail and probation.
26:14As a mom, it's very difficult to accept the fact that she's never coming home.
26:31But I want people to remember her by the kindness that she had in her, her perseverance, her determination.
26:45She was a really good student.
26:49She was an amazing daughter and an amazing friend.
26:55It's impossible for me to say the biggest things that I miss about my daughter.
27:02There aren't words.
27:04There's not three words.
27:05There's not 30 words.
27:06There's not 3,000, 30,000.
27:09There is the pure essence of that individual and what they have.
27:15She had a smile and she had a laugh that are some of the best things of being alive.
27:25And some days are hollow without it.
27:29But I can't put into words.
27:38Tristan Bailey was a victim of multiple stab wounds, a behavior known as overkill.
27:45Overkill can result from different kinds of emotions and different kinds of reasons.
27:51I mean, it's inherently an emotional reaction to keep stabbing someone or keep injuring someone after they're dead.
27:57But in this case, I think it's also that he'd rehearsed it so many times.
28:01It feels like it would be going to waste this opportunity if he didn't live it out to the fullest.
28:06It's about making it worth it.
28:07It's about making sure that if I'm going to do this murder, that I get what I'm looking for out of it.
28:14Because otherwise, why would I do it?
28:17In our next case, the idea of sadistically enjoying murder is taken a step further by a repeat offender.
28:26The state of Colorado and its capital, Denver.
28:32Home to nearly 100,000 students, known as Mile High City with a vibrant nightlife.
28:41It was home to 19-year-old Kenya Monge.
28:46Kenya was born in Honduras and moved to Denver, aged 11, after her mother, Maria, married her second husband, Tony Lee.
28:54Maria and Tony had two more children, Kenya's brother and sister.
29:02It clicked from the first second that I met her.
29:07She says, you're my dad and I'm your daughter.
29:10It was just normal and natural for me, for her to call me that.
29:16Kenya was academically gifted and keen to take charge of any situation.
29:20Kenya even set up a kids' club at the local church.
29:26She had those kids rehearse and put on a church play.
29:30They all knew the songs that they needed to sing and things like that, you know.
29:34And it was little things like that that just kind of really, really impressed me about it.
29:39She had this leadership ability.
29:42Kenya loved the outdoors.
29:43She became a white water rafting guide while she was still at high school.
29:52It's a dangerous sport.
29:53It's a dangerous activity.
29:54She loved it.
29:56She liked that prestige of being out front, you know, and being the one called guide and boss.
30:02On March 31st, 2011, Kenya and a group of friends went for a night out in downtown Denver.
30:13But Kenya never returned home to the apartment she shared with her boyfriend.
30:20It just kept getting stranger and stranger and stranger that nobody had heard from her.
30:28Tony spoke to Kenya's friends.
30:30Her friends were telling me Kenya had become so intoxicated that her and this guy who was dancing with her were kicked out of the club.
30:44That is the last time that they had seen her that evening.
30:49It left Kenya vulnerable.
30:52Dr. Roberta Babb is a clinical psychologist.
30:55Kenya is now in an unexpected situation of not having her belongings, not being able to make contact with her friends.
31:04So her ability to make her way home had been significantly compromised.
31:12After leaving the nightclub, Kenya was spotted on surveillance cameras.
31:16Ray Evans is a forensic image analyst who works with law enforcement around the world.
31:28We can see approximate hairstyle, shape.
31:32We can see approximate clothing that she's wearing, the short coat and the dark shoes.
31:37We can be fairly sure that it is her.
31:39Three minutes later, she was seen leaving alone.
31:44Kenya was never spotted again on camera.
31:47Tony reported her missing to the police.
31:53Kenya's friends dropped off her phone and belongings.
31:58Tony turned detective and started calling Kenya's contacts.
32:02I'm trying to figure out, what do you know?
32:05Have you seen her?
32:06Nobody heard anything.
32:08Then this message came through and said, hey, this is Travis, the guy in the creepy white van.
32:15And it sounded to me like, okay, this Travis guy sounds like this is the last person who she was with.
32:24I didn't sleep that night and I called him every hour for the next 24 hours.
32:28Finally, he got through to Travis.
32:33He said he dropped Kenya at a gas station.
32:36Tony arranged to meet him there, but took precautions.
32:40Went up to my bedroom.
32:42I grabbed a 9mm pistol and I told him, I'm taking this with me.
32:47Kenya's mother was so concerned that she called the police.
32:51She said, my husband is coming down to this gas station at this location.
32:57He has a gun.
32:58He's a black guy.
33:00So I put the Denver Police Department on high alert.
33:02So they needed to get there before I got there.
33:05And they did.
33:08Tony finally got to meet 31-year-old Travis Forbes face to face.
33:14Six foot, blonde hair, blue eyes, good looking guy.
33:18If somebody's going to pick my daughter up, I think this is what I would want him to look like.
33:24And I noticed he's crying.
33:27And he's telling me, you know, I'm sorry.
33:30I didn't think that any of this would, you know, end up like this with, you know, with her missing and all of that.
33:35While the police were taking a statement from Travis, Tony took a look at the creepy white van Travis mentioned in his text message.
33:48I got within 10 feet of it.
33:50The smell of the bleach was so overpowering.
33:53It just stopped me in my tracks right there.
33:58Tony got the police officer to investigate.
34:00They went around to the back of the van and opened up.
34:06And we both just looked in there and we looked at each other because it was showroom clean.
34:12There was bleach that had dried up running down the walls and it was just overpowering.
34:20But with no evidence of wrongdoing, the police let Travis go.
34:26Kenya's family were still frantically searching for her.
34:30Handing out missing person flyers to try and jog people's memories.
34:36On April 4th, the police officially launched a missing persons investigation.
34:43Travis was their only lead.
34:47Police visited the bakery where he worked.
34:50After a search, there was no sign of Kenya.
34:53But detectives were shown footage of the freezer area.
35:00We see the suspect coming into this room, dragging this large container.
35:07Black duct tape sealed the box shut.
35:10It was unusual and not normally required.
35:14The question is, what's inside that container?
35:16And we know that very shortly after this sequence, the suspect took the time and the effort to turn off the CCTV camera.
35:28The question is, it's not his bakery.
35:30Why would he do that?
35:31The footage was suspicious, but inconclusive, and Kenya was still missing.
35:42Travis was brought in for an interview.
35:45Detectives wanted to know more details about how Kenya was that night.
35:49She didn't have her purse, cell phone, nothing?
35:53Nothing.
35:54Okay.
35:54Except a jacket.
35:55That's all she had.
35:56Okay.
35:57Yes, she definitely needed to be back with her friends.
36:02Were you in your car?
36:03Yes.
36:03What kind of car did you do?
36:04A van.
36:04A white cargo van.
36:07Use it for the bakery.
36:08You know, we go and pick up supplies and stuff, and I also use it for deliveries.
36:13And this may be in poor taste in this situation, but my friends and I, we refer the van as the creeper because it's creepy.
36:22Yeah.
36:23Because it doesn't have any windows.
36:24Right.
36:26According to Travis, their journey in the early hours was only interrupted by an unscheduled stop-off for a smoke.
36:34There was a guy, a man that was walking by.
36:38Okay.
36:38He was smoking a cigarette, and she asked him for a cigarette and asked him to sit and smoke with her.
36:49She put her arm through his arm, and they walked off, and that's it.
36:55And I went home, and I texted her.
36:58I texted her phone.
37:00There's a number of things that can be read into this text.
37:02It's a way for him to lay the seed in terms of his concern about her getting home and to show that he is a caring citizen who's just checking up on someone that actually he helped in their time of need.
37:16It's interesting that he actually, in the text, explicitly names White, Van, and Creepy.
37:23So there's an awareness that this might be an inside joke for them.
37:28I think there's something about this text helping the sender hide in plain sight.
37:35During the interview, Travis revealed details about his criminal past.
37:39At the age of 17, Travis was caught stealing more than $15,000 from homes and businesses.
38:06Searches of his room turned up vandalized women's underwear.
38:12Other charges in his 20s included carrying a knife and throwing stones at women out jogging.
38:20This really highlights how disturbed Travis's relationship was with women.
38:25Vandalizing underwear really signifies a wish not only to hurt a woman, but potentially to humiliate them.
38:32Because ultimately, underwear covers a very vulnerable part of a woman's anatomy.
38:39The police tracked Travis's movements using his cell phone.
38:44Shortly after Kenya went missing, his phone records showed that he was near Keensburg, 40 miles from downtown Denver.
38:51Police recovered surveillance footage, which showed Travis running through a gas station in the same area.
39:03But with no evidence he'd done anything criminal, Travis was released.
39:08Almost three months later, in July, 60 miles north of Denver in Fort Collins, a woman was raped.
39:22Her attacker covered her body and apartment in bleach and set the property on fire.
39:28Incredibly, she jumped out of a second-story window and survived the attack.
39:34When the police took samples from her fingernails, the DNA matched Travis Forbes.
39:43He was arrested and questioned about his latest attack on the woman in Fort Collins, and the night he picked up Kenya three months earlier.
39:51This time, he made a harrowing confession about what happened in the back of his van with Kenya.
40:00I had sex with her while she was passed out.
40:04She kind of came to, it had only been maybe 45 minutes, maybe an hour.
40:11And she realized that we had had sex.
40:17And she started hitting me.
40:19And, um, I started hitting her back.
40:27When you say by hitting, were you punching her?
40:29Yes.
40:30Okay.
40:30When you strangled her, were you doing anything besides just strangling her?
40:58Or were you, like, like, smacking her?
41:02I think I may have broke her neck.
41:05She was so tiny.
41:09Travis attempted to excuse his actions.
41:13I did not mean to kill her.
41:16I didn't pull over to kill her.
41:18I didn't pull over to rape her.
41:20None of that was in my head.
41:21None of it was premeditated.
41:22I haven't got a sense of the confession being because he generally felt remorse and guilt and shame.
41:31I think that's potentially about him trying to rewrite the narrative as someone who is a victim to these impulses.
41:39Therefore, it's not his fault.
41:40So he's trying to potentially distance himself from responsibility and accountability because this was an urge that he couldn't control.
41:48As opposed to really connecting with a sense of remorse and guilt and essentially taking ownership of what he did.
41:57He had tried to find a way to cover up what he'd done and dispose of Kenya's body.
42:02I went back to the bakery and put Kenya in the freezer.
42:09I didn't know where else to do.
42:11I didn't know where else to put her.
42:13The freezer seemed like a good place.
42:15Isn't that what they do with people in the morgue?
42:16Don't they put them in the freezer?
42:17They do?
42:18Did you bury her in that cooler?
42:20No.
42:21Where's that cooler at?
42:22Probably the dump.
42:24That's when I started cleaning it all up.
42:27I burned everything.
42:29I cut Kenya's clothes off.
42:32I took her piercings off and I destroyed them.
42:38Took a hammer and smashed them.
42:41I burned all my clothes.
42:44I burned everything that she touched.
42:47I buried her.
42:52Travis went with the police to show them exactly where he buried Kenya.
42:57The location was near the gas station, where police had recovered the surveillance footage
43:03in mid-April.
43:04They now believed he'd been checking on Kenya's shallow grave.
43:12Right there.
43:15Right there.
43:15The police notified Tony that they'd found her body.
43:26My wife was in bad sleep.
43:28I woke her up and I told her they found Kenya.
43:33And she just immediately said to me, is she okay?
43:39Where is she?
43:41And I had to tell her she was dead.
43:46And she lost it.
43:47The surveillance footage from the bakery confirmed Travis's story.
43:59Under a plea deal, Travis Forbes received a life sentence for Kenya Monge's murder
44:04and an additional 48 years for his attack on the woman in Fort Collins.
44:09But the question remained, why did he do it?
44:15Travis even pondered this question himself.
44:21Something they need to do.
44:24It's like we need to find out the definition of a sociopath is.
44:28Because I'm pretty sure I fit in.
44:30A sociopath has no empathy.
44:32They can actually kill somebody and not feel anything about it.
44:36That's a sociopath.
44:37So you think you fit into the sociopath?
44:39I had a nice girlfriend tell me that I was a sociopath.
44:45If we look at the wider picture of Travis, we see a pattern of behaviour
44:49which really, I think, highlights his problematic and disturbed relationship with women,
44:54which is probably underpinned by negative and hostile attitudes to women.
44:59And if we think about it, a sense of sexual entitlement to women's bodies,
45:04which we see escalating and ultimately contributes to the murder
45:09of the murder of Kenya.
45:10There's no such thing as closure at all.
45:19And we will never have closure.
45:22You think about this every second of every day for the rest of your life.
45:27She had these qualities that were just different, exceptional.
45:34And I think that's one of the things that still bothers me is that I never told her that.
45:38We'll feel it.
45:48We're at the same time.
45:49We're at the same time.
45:58We'llaaaa.
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