The Jeremy Kyle Show 28th September 2018
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00:00On today's show
00:02You're going to invite the woman that you had sex with behind your wife's back for a barbecue. Yeah
00:13Isn't it true that your wife and Jemma catfished you and that's how your wife found out about Jemma isn't it?
00:18Yeah, yeah, I took the taxi went to her house. I said I'd meet her at one place and my wife walked around the corner
00:23I say you could come out. Shut your mouth. You're up
00:33Kelvin and you have been together since January you're engaged you caught him watching lesbian porn
00:39He's been that horrible you've pawned your engagement ring. She says you're looking for love. I'm not looking for love
00:43I'm not below with Denise. She actually said he's looking for lesbians
00:47Don't think so
00:50I've never cheated on her. She's the love of my life. Why did you watch lesbian porn then? I didn't watch lesbian porn
01:03What's this about swinging
01:17What's this about?
01:31The show right my first guest today Lee says that he is utterly desperate to find out who stole money from his house after he and his wife
01:37Terry hosted a barbecue. How nice is that?
01:40Lee says there are two people in the frame today, but the main suspect is Jemma who he slept with behind his wife's back earlier this year
01:47and
01:48The wife invited her to a barbecue I hear you exclaim Lee says he thinks Jemma might have stolen the money out of spite after their encounter and today
01:54He says I'm here for the truth. So so so he slept with her and then the wife invited around to the barbecue
02:01Lee's on the Jeremy Carr show that way
02:10Right Lee, how are you? All right, thank you myself. You look quite nervous. I am you and Terry you've been together
02:16I mean since you were quite young nine years nine years how many kids because you were childhood
02:21We don't we don't have children you don't have any kids at all childhood sweethearts, but the nine years haven't been with respect
02:28That's solid have they no no absolutely not we've been through
02:33Obviously we've had our ups and downs. We both cheated on each other
02:36But like we always love each other. It's top-notch now top the world. There's no
02:42Nothing could affect my team that nobody will break this bond that we have not been through. Yeah, some pretty torrid times
02:49Now this I must just take benefit with you. Well, we'll take umbrage actually to be honest
02:54I'm here to find out which one of my so-called friends stole my hard-earned
03:00benefits money. Yeah
03:02Do you see any problem with that sentence? Yeah, of course obviously it's benefits. Yeah
03:14It's not hard-earned because you're un-earned it, have you? I have and they have. Yeah, they have I but I look for a job of course I do
03:19Are you looking for a job? Yeah, of course I am. How long have you been looking for a job?
03:22Well, I stopped working about six months ago
03:25Now now you say you said the dirty low-life scumbag that's nicked my money today
03:30I will out now what I need from you is this explanation about the barbecue because you and terry the weather's great
03:36Decided to have some sort of family-related barbecue
03:38Yeah, yeah, yeah
03:39What I don't and I'm not having to go is that my first thing when I was doing this is money when I fell off the chair was
03:43You're going to invite the woman that you had sex with behind your wife's back
03:48Yeah, for a barbecue. Yeah, why? Um, well, basically a few months ago
03:53I did split on my wife and tried getting a relationship with Gemma. Why?
03:57I don't know I couldn't even give you an answer why to be honest
04:01You just woke up one morning when I don't want to be my wife. I want to be with Gemma. Where was your wife? At home, right?
04:08Were you having problems then it was all sort of like a set up between Gemma and my wife
04:14So obviously to see if I'd actually cheat again wasn't really brilliant. It wasn't really um was it an affair or a one?
04:22No, no, just a one nightstand sort of thing. Well, it wasn't what it was when it was in the woods wasn't it? Yeah, it was
04:29What was the sex like in the woods like a sack of spuds
04:36I'll just put it up bluntly
04:39Do you think that sounds respectful to women no definitely not
04:42So that's the woman that you met yeah, yeah, you just had sex with her yeah, because you're at a bad moment with your wife
04:49Yeah, yeah, who you say did you tell her about Gemma when you and Gemma had finished?
04:54What do you mean? Yeah?
04:55Well, did you have sex around the woods and then tell me how I am
04:57I don't understand you get to leaving your wife one day having an affair with her in the woods
05:01So you describe as a sack of potatoes then you're back with your wife and then a few months later you invited to a barbecue
05:06Why would you do that? No, I'm asking for trouble my wife and Gemma have been friends for like so three months now
05:12Oh
05:14Isn't it true that your wife and Gemma catfished you and that's how your wife found out about Gemma isn't it?
05:19Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell them what happened
05:21Catfish see I know I said basically
05:24Who's that mate?
05:25Gemma told me to go to her house, so I jumped in a taxi went to her house and then obviously
05:29I said I'd meet her at one place and my wife walked around the corner
05:33But you're sitting there's a sort of admiration because you're as blasé as anything you cheated on your wife with her mate
05:39Yeah, but that's not saying I don't love my wife though
05:41Of course I do I've been with her nine years we've been through also so I can tell you how many times have you cheated on her?
05:45Six times
05:51And why is she still with you or am I missing the point do I come from in fact a different planet?
05:57How many times has your wife cheated on you?
05:59Quite a few even double figures
06:01It's 11 isn't it?
06:03Yeah, yeah
06:05So she's cheated on you 11 times and you've cheated on her six times and yet you profess to be madly in love with each other
06:11Yeah, we are and the sex is great and you use quite a lot of things apparently. Yeah, yeah
06:15What?
06:17Sex toys
06:19I've never in I've done this 15 years
06:21Yeah, I've cheated on her six times
06:23She'd done me 11 times and used the occasional vibrator everything's great
06:27Yeah?
06:28Do you think this is how a relationship should be?
06:30No, definitely not
06:31Then why is it so dysfunctional?
06:33It's not now
06:34Right, okay now we're getting there
06:36So when did you turn a corner in the relationship?
06:38When did you stop this sort of he said she said I'll do you do?
06:43When did it get better?
06:44Erm, I'd say it's been good for about six, seven months now
06:48Why? What changed? What happened?
06:50Obviously when me and my wife split up again and obviously I tried getting a relationship with Gemma
06:54Obviously I realised like what I had sort of thing
06:56Like obviously I took her for granted because we've been together for nine years
07:00I didn't see what I had
07:01Let's talk about the barbecue because this centres on a theft
07:03Yeah, yeah
07:04Your strange relationship is no doubt your business
07:06And she decided to have a barbecue
07:08Yeah
07:09And you decided to invite around her ex-friend and your ex-best friend
07:11Your ex-lover
07:12Yeah
07:13Gemma
07:14I wouldn't say I love her like but yeah
07:15Well you had sex with her in the woods
07:16Yeah, once
07:18And that's fine?
07:19Yeah, she wasn't exactly your lover
07:21I'd say she was just a one-night stand
07:23Erm, so you, did you have a lot of people at the barbecue?
07:27Errr
07:28Did she have a sausage Gemma or what?
07:30Yeah
07:32She did?
07:33Yeah, yeah
07:34So there were lots of people there and apparently an amount, it doesn't matter how much
07:37But an amount of money went missing from the kitchen
07:39Yeah, yeah
07:40Now I tried to understand this
07:41No, the living room
07:42What happened? Tell me
07:43The amount, tell us what happened
07:44We had a barbecue, obviously
07:45Had a few beers, the sun was nice
07:47Music, just chilling, talking, chatting away
07:50Not sleeping with anybody else
07:51No, no
07:52Love Terry now
07:54Errr
07:55Obviously, errr
07:56We had just had the barbecue, had some drinks
07:58Went back inside the house
07:59Errr
08:00Carried on drinking
08:01We all got a bit drunk, erm
08:03My little brother Sam
08:04Errr
08:05He was looking for his work uniform
08:06He couldn't find it so he got a bit annoyed
08:08I helped him look for his work uniform
08:09Yep
08:10We had a bit of an argument
08:11The police come, he got removed from my property
08:12Who?
08:13My little brother
08:14Well, just because you were looking for his uniform
08:15The police arrived
08:16Yeah, because he was calling my wife
08:18He's like very abusive, so I was my wife
08:20Got a statement from Sam
08:22He's 17, this has torn me and my brother Lee apart
08:24I would never steal from him
08:25He's done everything he can to support me
08:26Since my dad died four years ago
08:28On the day in question we had a barbecue
08:30There were quite a few people there
08:31I ended up watching Titanic in the living room
08:36Gemma was also there with me asleep on the sofa
08:38Was he trying on with Gemma as well?
08:40No, no, no, no
08:41Keep it in the family
08:42I went upstairs to use the bathroom
08:43That's polite and was gone for a while
08:45When I came down it was all kicking off about the missing money
08:47Yeah
08:48Me and Lee ended up having a massive round
08:49The police were called
08:50A police officer arrived, searched me for the money
08:52And I was clear
08:53I didn't take the money
08:54I wouldn't do that to my brother
08:55I am not guilty
08:56Yep
08:57You believe that Gemma nicked the money
08:58Why do you believe that Gemma nicked the money?
08:59Why would she do that?
09:00To get back at the fact that you, this love god
09:01Doesn't want to be with her anymore?
09:02I definitely wouldn't say my love god, like
09:04You think you can get over sleeping with somebody
09:06When you're married fine
09:07Then you get her to come to the barbecue
09:09Is it like easy to blame her because
09:11No, no
09:12Basically what it was, right
09:13My little brother
09:15We all started having a little water fight sort of thing
09:17A water fight?
09:18Yeah
09:19Basically he got a 13 litre bucket, filled it up and just chucked it at her
09:22At Gemma?
09:23Yeah, yeah
09:24And she was drenched
09:25And then so basically
09:27What have we got here?
09:28This is the bucket?
09:29What is happening with this?
09:30Yeah, yeah
09:31My god if you're tuning in right now, this is highbrow isn't it?
09:34You've got a bucket next to a bin
09:36Your bins need emptying can I just say
09:38And you need
09:39Can I just honestly, can I just
09:41Look
09:42The bottles and the cans need to go with the plastic
09:44You need to go in the right one
09:45Yeah that is the recycling bin
09:46What is he doing here?
09:47What's he posing?
09:48He's hiding behind the bin
09:49Waiting for it to walk out the door
09:51Who's that?
09:52That's Gemma
09:53So this barbecue turned into a let's target the bird who slept with my brother when he was married
09:58Now she's come round for a sausage and got a bucket load of water after which the money's gone missing
10:02And you're on the Jeremy Kyle show
10:04Why are you so rude about her?
10:06I don't know
10:07You call her the village idiot?
10:08Yeah she is when she's drunk
10:10She'll walk down the street shouting pervert
10:12Who?
10:13Just randomly shouting it down the street when she's drunk
10:15Pervert! What?
10:16Yeah
10:19You say she's a grass, she's ruining your reputation
10:22She's saying things she shouldn't
10:23Yeah
10:24You made a mistake
10:25You're happy with your wife
10:26Now you've tried to mend the bridges by inviting her over
10:29You believe she responded by nicking the money
10:31Yeah? Let's get her out
10:32Gemma's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
10:43Erm
10:44Hello
10:45Hello
10:46Erm
10:47First of all
10:48If we're balancing this show
10:49Why the hell are you having sex with your friend's husband love?
10:52We weren't friends at first
10:55What?
10:56We weren't friends at first
10:57It was over a year ago and he told me that they weren't together
11:00Woah
11:01Who's that?
11:02Is that the wife?
11:03Is that the wife?
11:04I love him whatever
11:05He told me that
11:06You're no better than him
11:07You'll have your turn in a minute
11:08Who's the picture?
11:09Why did you have sex with him?
11:12He told me that they weren't together
11:13And you'd always fancied him?
11:15No
11:16Not at all
11:17It was just
11:18Just a drunken thing
11:19In the woods?
11:20Yeah
11:21He said it was like making, well he said it was like having sex with a bag of potatoes
11:23Yeah I heard
11:24I heard but he can't say nothing because I can't even remember
11:27Oh
11:28He was that good yeah?
11:31Yeah obviously
11:32How do you get from sleeping with him and discovering that in fact he's still with his wife and
11:36he's a liar
11:37To going to the family barbecue?
11:39Why would you do that?
11:40Well what it was
11:41Unless you're still out for him
11:42No not at all
11:43He'd tried to message me on Snapchat
11:46So I'd saved all of the conversations
11:48And I'd messaged Terry and I said come to my flat with your friend
11:52Because I want to show you what he's been saying
11:54So she came over and she read it all and then she'd messaged him off my Snapchat and said
12:00Oh come and meet me pretending to be me
12:02And then she went out to go and meet him
12:06So you're saying that you are innocent in that you thought that he was single
12:10Yeah
12:11When you found out the truth you liaised with the wife and then you became Terry's mate
12:14Yeah
12:15Now having had that bridge built you go to the barbecue and suddenly you're being accused of nicking the money
12:20I told my team I'm here today to confront the vilest couple in the United Kingdom
12:24What do you mean by that? Talk to me
12:26Because they're making out
12:28They're making out that they're all in love but then it's
12:34How can you sit there and say that?
12:36Right course we are married a lot
12:38Oh because we're
12:40Are you not? Are you not?
12:41Did I say you could come out?
12:42Shut your mouth you little
12:44Oh
12:46Sorry I know I missed the point
12:48Sorry
12:50She really does infiore
12:51Simply very calmly this from a woman who's cheated on her husband eleven times
12:55It's not eleven that's what Gemma said
12:56That's what Gemma said
12:57That's what Gemma said
12:58Unless I'm missing the point
12:59Can you talk please
13:00What is going
13:01Why are you even going to their barbecue?
13:03What is wrong with you?
13:05Terry I was going into town for my home
13:07Did you nick the money?
13:08No
13:09Do you regret going to the barbecue?
13:10Yes without a doubt do I
13:11Why would you think it's her because what she's got a motive?
13:14Because you what slept with her and was so bad
13:16No
13:17Because obviously she was
13:18The fact that she got wet through
13:19Which she might have thought
13:20Yeah you know what
13:21It doesn't mean I'm going to pinch anything
13:22Were you upset you were wet through?
13:24Of course I was
13:25Because I lived over an hour away
13:28From
13:29I wouldn't say an hour Gemma
13:30An hour walk
13:31No it's not man
13:32It takes me an hour to walk from there
13:33No
13:34Shut up
13:35Does it
13:36Yes it does
13:37Why are you swearing you're hardly a paragon of virtue are you?
13:39No I'm not saying I'm not
13:40No
13:41You actually made an accusation as well Gemma
13:44You said they stole some stuff of you tobacco
13:46Somebody
13:47I don't know who it is
13:48Somebody's been inside of my handbag
13:50Maybe they invited you to the barbecue to frame you love
13:53Maybe that was the way they got back
13:55After this break by the way
13:56His wife her ex best friend who seems to go
13:59It's alright
14:00Your boyfriend
14:01My boyfriend has been cheated with you
14:02But you can come to the barbecue
14:03We've got a lie detector
14:04We're back
14:05Don't go anywhere
14:06Right back
14:07Do you think she nicked the money?
14:08I don't
14:09Well yeah I do
14:10Because of these weeds
14:11And she's nicked off a friend before
14:12No
14:13What did you say?
14:14What did you say?
14:15What did you say?
14:16What is she in his mouth?
14:17What is she in his mouth?
14:18She's got no
14:19She reverses to the scruffy little
14:21And that's got if he clap
14:22Do you wanna wash your mouth now?
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15:52Was your wife called sorry?
15:54This is the wife that you've cheated on six times and she she done you 11 times and yet you're to you said 11 didn't you?
15:59Yes, I did she said you're lying. What's the name again? Terry's on the jeremy carl show that way
16:04How can you say anything about us when you're taking money off your money off her?
16:11See she don't give you money?
16:12Why do you cheat on him so often?
16:14I've not cheated on him he was in time
16:16Thank you Ed
16:17It's double figures
16:19No it's not
16:20Yes it is
16:21What eight or nine?
16:22I was like 16, 17
16:25It's one off double figures
16:26I was 16, 17
16:28He slept with her and you invited her round for a barbecue mate
16:31She turned around to my mate and said she's got no mate so I felt sorry for her fault
16:34She told me that he'd been messaging her so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
16:37No
16:38And he had so why don't you judge him instead of her?
16:40I know he's had it as well
16:43He's had it just as much as she has
16:45Why are you staying in a relationship so bad?
16:47It's not bad
16:48It's what she's saying
16:48Cheated on each other 17 times by my maths or about 15
16:52Why would you stay together?
16:54Well obviously we have problems
16:56People sort them out you know
16:58You used to go to their house for sleepovers after a par
17:02She's never slept at my house
17:03She slept there once when she was too paralytic
17:05She's never slept at my house she's only slept there once
17:06She said your house is disgusting and you'd sell anything to buy booze to get drunk
17:11That's what you said
17:12I thought you had to confront them you haven't said Jack
17:14No cooker
17:15No washing machine
17:17You've got nothing
17:17I have got a washer
17:18It's you that's got no washer
17:20Do you think she nicked the money?
17:23I don't well yeah I do because there's reason she's nicked off a friend before
17:26So when you brought that girl to my house you didn't take
17:29You won't give her a hundred and seventy pound back
17:31You took your sister for a meal and you bought a new phone screen Gemma
17:34No that money was in my drawer
17:36But it wasn't yours
17:37That was her money
17:39Yes it was
17:39Yes it was
17:40Because she started fighting in my bedroom
17:42That's what you did you started fighting in my bedroom
17:44Because you're all in my house
17:45That's what you were
17:45It wasn't a fight
17:46Our next guest is Kim
17:47She's also done a lie detector
17:48Why do you think it could be Kim?
17:49No no no we don't think it's Kim
17:51She wanted to come on to Clarence
17:52Everyone else around the estate where we live is saying it's her
17:55So she wanted to come here to like prove to everybody
17:57You've got history with Kim haven't you?
17:58Kim will hear a little bit
18:00Why?
18:00Because when
18:01You sat with her boyfriend
18:02No the other way around
18:04No no
18:05It was the other way
18:07We've heard about Kim's on the Jeremy Kyle show that way
18:15Oi
18:16Oi
18:17I'm just moving the
18:18Move it around the other way and stop it
18:21What's your history with her then?
18:26What's your history?
18:27I've got no history with her
18:28She's just a scruffy little
18:29That's got the clap
18:30Oi
18:31Do you want to wash your mouth now?
18:33How old are you about 11?
18:3419 actually
18:35Why do you hate her so much?
18:37Because she's a snobby
18:39Why do you
18:40Stop being disgusting or you can go
18:42I'm here to prove my innocence because everybody where we live says that I've nicked the money
18:53Why?
18:54Because
18:55Like stirring stuff so
18:56Is that it?
18:57Don't really understand the point to you really
19:00Well because I'm proving I haven't
19:01What is your history with her?
19:03Nothing
19:04Brilliant
19:04I just don't like her
19:06Help me out
19:06It was
19:10Over four years ago
19:12What happened?
19:13Well she
19:13I was going out with some lad
19:15Yeah
19:16She'd slept with him behind my back
19:17That's what I got told
19:18I'm not really bothered because it was a long time ago
19:21Do you feel like you're being victimised in all of this?
19:24Yeah of course I do
19:24Diabetes and everyone bullies you
19:26Who's this lad?
19:26Oh my god
19:27Who
19:28Who
19:28How
19:29Like
19:29Does me have diabetes
19:30How does me have diabetes make me a difference
19:33That's how you play on everyone backstages
19:35You're playing that right
19:36This all started because of the water fight
19:38They wet you but you were chucking alcohol and lemonade at them
19:40And you didn't like it
19:41After I've been sucked twice
19:42No
19:42I knew they were all right
19:43Yes it was
19:44No it wasn't
19:44You weren't even there
19:45So you can shut up
19:46They chucked a little thing
19:47Yeah
19:48And then you started chucking lemonade and that at them
19:50So Sam swilled me
19:51No that was the second time
19:52You didn't play the victim all the time
19:54No it's just been up there
19:55It was the second time after he'd swilled me
19:57The first time
19:58No it was the first time actually
19:58They said the reason that they really think you need the money is because
20:01Oh shut up then
20:02We don't see it
20:03No it was
20:04You kept going in and out of the house and they believe you stole the money at that point
20:08That's right
20:08No because I wouldn't
20:09Well she's one of the people
20:10Did you steal the money?
20:10No
20:11Did you steal the money?
20:12No
20:14What about you stealing your own money?
20:15Why would I steal my own money?
20:17Why would you invite a woman you've had sex with in the woods to a barbecue with your wife you idiot?
20:20No I wish you
20:24Why would you?
20:25Come on think about that
20:26You know the nine men you've had sex with behind his back
20:29Did you invite any of them?
20:31No
20:31Why can't we not have 15 guests?
20:33She could have all slept together
20:34Why didn't you invite?
20:35It was fun wasn't it
20:35Then why did you invite her?
20:37Because she told me and we'd done that whole set up where I'd met him
20:40I'd give her the benefit of the doubt
20:42Why did you stick with somebody that was sleeping with somebody behind your back?
20:45Serious question
20:45Split up after it
20:46For how long?
20:47What was it a few weeks wasn't it?
20:49Well don't ask him I'm asking you
20:50Yeah it was a few weeks
20:51Why did you get back with him?
20:51What was it that attracted you to him?
20:54Well because I've been with him for so long
20:56Do you think that your husband and Gemma had more of a physical attraction than you were led to believe?
21:02No but everyone does say when she's had a drink she does flirt with both Lee and Sam
21:07And Sam's only, don't you Kimberley?
21:08Sam's only 17
21:11Kimberley's going to try and say a word without using some disgusting language
21:14Do you fancy the brother as well?
21:16No definitely not
21:16Gemma you told me he's quite good looking
21:18Doesn't mean I fancy him
21:20Why would you say it about a 17 year old?
21:21Doesn't mean I fancy him I'm quite happy with my boyfriend
21:24Well can I just say something at the risk of you all hating me
21:28I would have thought that if you spent less time drinking and less time sleeping with each other
21:33And went to damn work the world would be a better place
21:35But I could have forced me to do something
21:40Does anybody does anybody work on this stage at all?
21:44I used to
21:44Used to but you're not now you just get drunk and sleep with people in the woods
21:47He's got medical conditions
21:49Doesn't stop it from cheating on you then does it?
21:51It's different
21:51Doesn't stop you cheating on you
21:53They're working
21:54Why don't you work?
21:56Because I can't be bothered
22:00Just going to leave that out there and tell you that for all the people that work hard
22:04You think this is funny do you?
22:05You look like an idiot and do you know what you do look like?
22:08I'll tell you someone else's way
22:10You are
22:11You are absolutely
22:13You are the exact reason this country is on its backside
22:16You actually believe that you shouldn't work
22:18It doesn't work though am I?
22:20No but you're proud of it love because we've created a society that says you don't have to
22:24There's people out there that's proud
22:25These people work and they're fed off paying for you lot to hang around the whole time getting drunk
22:29And I'm just hoping that the doll office that pay your money realize that you've no intention of working and stop your money love
22:41Kim
22:43Did you steal any of the missing money in question from terry's do you know what she passed both questions?
22:48She didn't make the money
22:50So was it you?
22:52No
22:53How many people in this audience think Gemma who slept with him in the woods and apparently was like a sack of potatoes
22:57Nick the money from the barbecue house she catfished him with the wife
23:01You do do you on your own then anybody else
23:04Who thinks she stole the money well who thinks she's being victimized by these people
23:08She's all got me back stage but don't say anything to my face
23:10Did you steal any of the missing money in question from terry's house we asked Gemma you said no
23:14Why don't you say no so forget she told us he said I was single she passed both questions as well
23:30You two aren't exactly in a position where you can pass
23:35People in the woods
23:45And for people just tuning in and I sound like an old man because I am that is the united kingdom
23:50And that's why this great country is on its backside back in a minute
23:54Kelvin and you have been together since january you're engaged you caught him watching lesbian porn
23:59He's been that horrible he had pawned your engagement ring she says you're looking for love i'm not looking for love
24:04I'm not the love of denise she actually said he's looking for lesbians don't think so
24:09I've never cheated on her she's the love of my life why did you watch lesbian porn then
24:14I didn't watch lesbian porn
24:25Thank you very much indeed welcome back my next guest today denise is on this show to find out if a fiancee
24:29Kelvin has ever cheated on her now she says she found him watching lesbian porn and believes he's even going door to door
24:36Asking women for sex number 14 do you fancy one then or what no no
24:41She's not happy that'll be an understatement she's got a broken foot
24:46That's an understatement and she's 99 percent sure he'll fail she's not happy denise be on the show give her a round of applause
24:51Hello
24:52Hello
24:54Are you all right come to me
24:59So you're not great then love no not at the moment
25:03How long you been with kelvin since january
25:06I love i'm going to love you straight away
25:09Now nice and clearly where did you meet
25:11I met him on a dating site called puff
25:14Puff plenty of fish see he called me sexy did he he said you said i thought there was something wrong with
25:20Him because he made me wait six weeks for sex he did yes why did he make you wait six weeks
25:26There's just the way both of us was at the time right there was no there was no need to um and then we and then
25:32She said we got together and we were at it like rabbits
25:34It was at the start at the beginning that was yeah lots
25:41Well every day it was every day
25:45It's quite a lot isn't it most people wouldn't have that much um he would walk in from work
25:51And rub his private parts on me and then we'd have sex
25:59No use so he'd come home from work yeah
26:02But then he used to go in the bathroom for about an hour and he used to take his phone with him into the bathroom as well
26:08But he was sitting there in the bathroom for about an hour doing what i was sitting in the sitting room watching tv thinking well what the hell is he up there
26:16So he'd come in with a pop-on and he'd pop upstairs
26:19It's all downstairs where i live i haven't got no upstairs
26:23Right he didn't go i don't care whether he went upstairs he went to the bathroom with a pop-on right
26:29So what do you think was happening in there
26:33I touched himself basically
26:36He proposed to me everything was great but i mean it can't be brilliant because you're now on the jeremy car show you think he's pawned the ring
26:43Why do you think he's pawned the ring he didn't pawn the ring because i took him to the pawn shop because he called me horrible
26:47He said i was a horrible person so i got on my own back and i took it up there
26:51Right
26:52Um you you're sure he's cheated
26:55He's up to something
26:57Why what based on what you suddenly said lesbian porn you've accused him of dealing with a pop-on in the bathroom
27:03Why do you think he's a cheat because he doesn't come anywhere near us doesn't touch us doesn't hold my hand outside
27:08Doesn't show me no affection so you're not having sex i've got like
27:11Um i'm really down with myself and it doesn't build me back up whatsoever you said that breaking your foot was also making you feel down
27:18Because he doesn't want you now you've got a broken foot yeah
27:22That's true
27:23But it doesn't show me no affection whatsoever
27:26What's this about door to door there is an explanation for this you said that he watched lesbian porn a lot of blokes in the audience are like
27:32To be fair
27:33But also knocking on the doors why would he be knocking on the doors asking for sex it's a canvasser so he goes knocking on the door
27:39He's a canvasser yeah what does he sell windows doors conservatories
27:44All kinds brilliant brilliant
27:46Hello madam would you like to buy
27:49He did tell me is he a silly don't look very happy does he for a salesman
27:53He did tell me once and when he came in from work once
27:56He did turn around and say to me um oh we're sitting in the garden nice he turned around
28:02He says oh by the way and when i've been at work today
28:05I saw this young lass on the door and she was covered in makeup
28:08I says well how old did you look it says round about my age so that even puts me down even more myself
28:14Why'd you put up with it
28:16But what do you love about him he accuses me he says do you fancy him do you fancy him do you fancy him like
28:21Is his very like he's turned it round yeah on and trying to blame me are you doing a lie detector no but he is
28:28Yeah
28:28What happens on a serious note because it was so fantastic at the beginning what are you going to do if he has been popping off somewhere else
28:34What we're going to do then what's going to happen that's it i'm going to walk away well
28:37You're not going to walk away are you to be honest
28:39I'm going to walk away
28:41You're going to hop but are you are you one of those people that says that you don't have to say that you've got to think about respect on a
28:46Serious note when i talk to you and you look you know
28:49You need to have a bit of respect for me yeah
28:53And actually it's as much about what you were saying about him
28:57It's as much about you saying you know he's horrible and he calls me horrible names and disrespects me
29:01He calls me horrible um has he looked in the mirror
29:04I don't know i don't he does every morning when he goes does his hair in the mirror
29:09So kelvin and you have been together since january you're engaged you caught him watching lesbian porn
29:15He's been that horrible you've pawned your engagement ring he's doing a lie detector because you believe that he's been messing around
29:22Kelvin's on the jeremy kyle show that way
29:24Kelvin welcome to the show i've never this is quite sweet to be fair we might have prejudged
29:40i've never cheated on her she's the love of my life why did you watch lesbian porn then i didn't much lesbian
29:46porn when i was on youtube when i'm looking for films and things like that what lesbian porn films
29:52no no it's like normal films bambi put in bambi up comes lesbian porn i hardly think that's going to
29:59happen even i know that i did show all my family in my own back garden i got me she rushed over to my
30:04house i said does that say kelvin's name on that youtube my looked and she said yes i says look what
30:09he's been watching so you checked up his back whatever you call it i took his phone and i took
30:14it out inside so how was there lesbian porn on your phone then well i don't know i'll shoot you come
30:20on mate when were we born yesterday you're horrible to her you don't have sex anymore because you're
30:25cheated aren't you nope brilliant did say his name all over youtube it said his full name on it so
30:31obviously it was his account isn't nobody else's you've got to answer that well which was my account
30:37i showed i showed everybody i showed your family i showed my family um what about this knocking on
30:41the door and wanting to take women home and do whatever knocking on doors set back door door
30:46door-to-door salesman says you're a canvasser she says you're looking for love i'm not looking for
30:50love i'm looking for love with denise she actually said he's looking for lesbians i don't think so
30:56are you obsessed with lesbians no i love denise
31:00and that's why i'm on the show i broke myself are you going to pass the test you keep calling
31:08me horrible yeah you are pretty horrible too and you are disrespecting you've got no respect
31:12talk to her why are you horrible to her time when you drink you're you've got a big mouth and you
31:17always let your mouth go and that's when you remind me up and i start and it's not going to happen
31:22anymore i need you have a bit more respect for me because otherwise there's no marriage i'm going to just
31:26do you accept that you've been not very nice to her yes why because you're drunk because i'm drunk
31:41i don't work i do all the cooking every day and everything at home so you don't do anything but
31:44get drunk and knock on people's doors nope this is my job carmerson i've got to knock on the doors
31:51you're gonna pass yes but if you do pass if it made my opinion stop slagging her off and start making
31:56love to her again because she thinks it's about her foot she thinks that you don't fancy her
31:59anymore do you fancy her anymore why have you stopped going nearer then i don't go near you
32:03don't go near you used to get a pop on all the time why are you laughing brilliant so questions
32:12that were asked of you my friend uh kelvin and whether you were telling the truth or not we asked
32:16kelvin since you started your relationship with denise have you ever had sexual intercourse with
32:20anyone else kelvin said no how many people think he's going to fail this test by the way
32:24nobody nobody nobody thinks that you're a liar and yet you've been with him for a year and you
32:30think he has why is that again because he passed every single question
32:43oh god oh god oh dear god no he's gonna pop on
33:13there can be few more romantic settings of the jeremy kyle show pop on less well done
33:36my old son listen a little bit of advice stop drinking so much we're gonna give you
33:42we're gonna give you some help with your drinking because there's no doubt that's a problem you said
33:46it and i'm not stupid enough i do know that the shakes a result of that obviously you've had some
33:50issues you passed the test you get married to him in october he wants to marry me on 24th of october
33:56what this year yeah can i just tell you something and i'm being completely serious but you need to stop all
34:00this yeah well we'll work with you and we'll do that listen graham you know graham he i don't don't
34:05love's an invite to a wedding all right listen good luck we'll help you stay there happy now all right
34:11all right give him a round of applause for baton rocky jk three minutes we've got it right now don't
34:14know why you're mouth you dirty little rat
34:19i've come here to shame you your little bike a griddles beat i used to be a swinger years ago
34:26yes and i had the best time of my life
34:28what's the most men you slept with in one night about seven
34:44i started this show 13 years ago and i wanted to help men fight to see their children
34:48i'm going to do everything i can to make sure he sees his kid
34:51i'm going to be good for her yeah to help addicts change their lives there is nothing in the world
35:00that is a better option than this we'll get an intervention that will help you cope to give
35:05victims an important voice you've seen what you do to me i'm going to make sure this boy has as much
35:11help and as much support and you can do whatever you want to reunite families
35:1639 years you haven't seen a karen's on the jeremy carl show that way
35:23and of course as you know i believe that everybody should know who their dad is he's your dad
35:28she's dad
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36:04is here to expose her thieving swinging scrounging ex-best mate fran to the uk she says she took fran
36:11in out of the goodness of her heart and she repaid her by stealing her mother's jewelry running up a
36:15big phone bell and she stinks she says fran spends more time swinging and trying to sleep with young
36:22men than doing anything else she says this woman needs to come with a warning a health warning lisa
36:26who's on the jeremy carl show that way
36:36how are you all right thank you all right thank you you look like you're up for business lisa 46
36:41welcome to the show i'm okay
36:45fran used to be your friend yeah sort of really sort of she was a friend till she started taking stuff
36:52what what i love you straight away i love you how'd you meet her she was skipping up and down the
36:58street in wolverhampton so i'll show you yeah you should be like that
37:04let's do this together let's do this together
37:16let's do it together
37:19she was like sit down yeah all right all right she were in wolverhampton skipping
37:22up and down why was she skipping up and down the street because i thought she was a bit mental
37:27i rescued her your mouth you dirty little rat
37:34i've come here to shame you yeah you little grimm's baby
37:42this is my i live in greens little scrubber
37:46i'm a scrubber yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no my time now
37:52yeah your town yes i want yeah go back excuse me excuse me get out yeah get out you sit down and be quiet
38:04lose the picture mate please
38:05up we went from the skipping up and down to you took her in you took her in because you felt sorry
38:17for i rescued her from her terrible home life in wolverhampton this is how she repays me
38:21she stole from your deceased mum the jewellery yes what was it a thief my mom's jewellery what has
38:28died what cannot be replaced she racked up a phone bill calling 0800 numbers yeah
38:35and said she was gonna pay me half of the money what sort of numbers are 0800 um for the natwest bank
38:42what's this about asda oh she's back she's bad from asda for doing a supermarket sweep
38:49in asda in wolverhampton when you're bad from one asda you're bad from every answer in the uk what like
38:57a sweep she just decided to start sweet you fill your trolley right go around filling your
39:01trolley there's a lot of movement in this part isn't there go on what listen all right you fill your
39:05trolley start putting all your stuff in the trolley and then she got this lad what can't be named no
39:14to do a a panic attack on the floor and then the guard was watching her on the camera so she was
39:22trying to nick the shopping yeah by the bloke having that you don't like her very much you've
39:26had a bard from grimsby yeah what's this about swinging oh it's a lot of swinging when you have sex in
39:38one room you go to another room to have sex does she do everybody she likes 19 year old boys
39:50did she do this did she do this in your house no she never i didn't give her a chance so you're
39:56not friends with her anymore well i've gathered that much um and she smells apparently yeah she
40:02smells of bobby orange she stayed in my house right for three days right never got a wash
40:09so she's a thief she skips through the street and she slept on this couch
40:15and it stinks of bobby orange and she slept what's bobby orange when you don't get a wash bobby
40:22orange it smells about bo she only smartened herself up when she lived in the y-m-c-a
40:36friends on the jeremy kyle show that way
40:50she slept what you've come out with is a load of this is my show sit down
40:59shut up
41:06who do you think you are
41:07i know who i am to tell the truth i know i am yeah of course you are i know who i am
41:14you are your friend you are welcome there lee so are you i'm fine thank you jerry right no who
41:24what's your name lisa oh right your friend i got that wrong uh fran uh let's put these challenges
41:29to you uh you stink uh you are you're a swinger and used to have sex with lots of lads i used to
41:34be a swinger years i used to be a swinger years ago did you yes and i had the best time of my life
41:44um give me the most memorable moment no no no no i can't i can't what was the most men you slept with
41:57in one night
42:02about seven
42:09lisa what's the most men you've ever slept with in one night
42:12one
42:13one
42:14you don't make me laugh
42:15you don't make me laugh
42:16he lives in walshampton yeah yeah yeah yeah he lives in walshampton yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
42:22that's where you where he lived did you nick her mother's
42:25hello to sit down did you nick her mother's jewelry no i didn't i don't even know what was taken
42:30rack up a phone book i loved it when i said what number thinking she'd be little sex land nat west bank
42:35why do you know why do you need to find the net west bank so often 50 quid i didn't i didn't
42:42i used to phone about three times uh you're very you're very lazy you're very rude and you
42:46don't watch okay okay i'm just telling you what she said yeah well she's the biggest uh
42:50grumpy really have you seen yourself at least i don't live in the ymca like you so what at least i
42:59don't live in the ymca like you yeah because you gave me no alternate look because i was on the street
43:03i was on the street my house is better than yours at least i don't live like a tram i don't live like
43:09a tram thank you yeah where's your clothes from no they're not actually try primart
43:16primarney where i don't shop at primarney i don't shop at primarney well where do you shop then love new
43:25look oh okay new look okay new look um sorry can we get you were mates what happened i mean with
43:37respect what happened she brought me to grimsby said she would help me out and then she turned on me
43:43no one ever yes you did you were going through a really tough time yes i was i got i got attacked
43:49in wolframpton i had to move away through they deserved it really yeah shut your mouth no i won't
43:58shut me mouth shut your mouth no yeah shut your mouth no no anyway yes i uh had a rough time in
44:05wolframpton um yes i did do shoplifting but i was forced to this girl on a serious note lisa when she
44:12took you in it meant quite a lot to you yes it said we used to hang around i came to grimsby she asked me
44:18to come to grimsby then when when you fell out that knocked you back down yeah yeah yeah so why
44:23are you here today because i want to come out with the truth that i haven't stolen no jewelry i don't
44:28even know what was taken why is it that i believe this woman why is it that i actually you're not
44:32going to like this at all why is it that i believe what this woman is saying ask the audience i'm not
44:37sure you're right who thinks she's telling the truth thank you she wanted to do the lie detector and
44:44because of her because she's desperate that's why she she came here but unfortunately medical
44:49reasons she can't but i'm being honest why why are we buying her then because she gets everyone to
44:54believe her and everyone yeah because i tell the truth no you don't it's a lie no you're the liar
45:00oh really am i yeah you are really am i your friendship meant a lot i don't know who you think
45:05you are lisa i know you ain't fooling me no more leave me alone get back to world run to get back to
45:12world run to get back to world run to get back to world run to because you're not willing to leave me
45:18alone i don't care it's not your town my town what you're the mayor of your town at all not your
45:23talking to every little rat because you are i'm not a rat you're you're a dear little tramp you're
45:30a half-wit well this has gone well hasn't it um so so you know i mean basically you don't have
45:36anything to do with each other i never want to see that face again ever i don't want to even speak
45:40to her again stay away from me you're a bully oh no not yeah whatever yeah whatever whatever
45:46talk to her hand because the face ain't listening talk to the end face that yeah right so we're done
45:50yeah done but you've come here and you've saved your point yes i have and i did not do nothing
45:55i believe she's when you said you were a swinger i like your honesty i i buy this woman so
46:01to everyone else to get everyone to know what she said you're a liar i'm a liar why don't you just let
46:07it go and get on with your life no because it's my mum's my mum can't be here i haven't taken your
46:13daughter ring it's my mum's dead she says she hasn't done it she said she hasn't done it i don't really
46:18but that's just a gut lately in the house don't lie yeah you was were yeah you was when we went to
46:26get the telephone what we gonna do she can't do a lie to take to the she was the only person when i
46:32took no i wasn't when i put my luggage in that barn to bring to if the jury hadn't gone missing would
46:39you still be friends with her pardon if the jury hadn't gone missing would you still be friends
46:49with her no because she's a bully jeremy no yeah she's a bully no i'm not a bully yeah you are
46:55whatever i had nowhere to live i tried to shut your mouth you shut your mouth i had to stay in a
47:04place for a night yeah when you had an out in wall front and you had a train ticket to go back
47:08shut up no i won't shut up she attacked me in the town center and tried to stop no one ever
47:13attacked you did you smack me in the mouth did you phone the police yes the police were involved jeremy
47:18yes they are whatever yeah so you don't need to do with her again no i don't i never want to see that
47:22face again there's no lie detector we can do but you have to go separate ways and you have to stop
47:26threatening her yeah well she shouldn't just back up and leave me alone what would you do then if
47:31it was your mom's dead jewelry i stole your jewelry what would you do then if it was your mom's dead
47:37jewelry i agree that you will be upset but there's no proof that it can't be replaced can it
47:42i haven't taken the bloody jewelry what okay then tell me one thing right what are they supposed to
47:46it was there when i put my luggage on the van you can't count me because you don't know
47:52sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah leave me alone get out of the space and leave me alone i've got i've got
47:59to i've got to i've got to finish nice to meet you i've got to
48:02two more satisfied customers i'm out of time for this morning thanks for watching see you soon
48:15take care bye-bye for now
48:27so
48:45you