Patriots vs Eagles Week 1 Postgame Show
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Transcript
00:00 by these pictures but Taylor, Kyle's and I, freshly back from Foxborough where the Patriots
00:04 opened their season. Long day down there in the rain. Got to see Tom Brady. Got to see
00:10 Tom Brady tell us he loves us, Taylor. That was nice.
00:13 That was awesome.
00:15 That was cool. And, you know, this was kind of one of those, you don't know what to expect
00:20 sort of games because you really didn't know what was going to happen. You didn't know what
00:26 this team was going to look like. We didn't get a good snapshot of them in the preseason.
00:30 They were missing a ton of offensive linemen. They couldn't really get anything going. The
00:34 offense had question marks. Everyone assumed things would be a little better because you
00:38 have Bill O'Brien. And then you see them warm up and you're like, "Uh-oh. There's no Anwenu.
00:46 There's no Cole Strange." You see what they're going to run out there. You know what the Eagles
00:49 have with their defensive line. And you're thinking, "Oh, boy. This could go sideways
00:56 fast." And you know what? It went sideways fast, Taylor. And so now we find ourselves here
01:03 in a weird position. 25-20 loss in a game that the Patriots should have won probably.
01:09 So it's a strange range of emotions, right? On one hand, you could say, "Wow. That was a better
01:16 performance than we might have expected." On the other, you'd say, "They should have found a way
01:22 to win this game." So what's your general feeling after this game, having seen what you just saw?
01:28 Well, first of all, you say we didn't know what to expect. I predicted a 23-20 Eagles win.
01:34 And I said that it was going to be a lot of early season mistakes. And I said it was going to be
01:40 just one that the Patriots couldn't quite pull out, but the defense was going to do a good job.
01:43 And that's exactly what we got. But let me brag first. All right. But beyond that...
01:47 But your three-point prediction is most people's 13-point prediction. I'm just
01:53 going to say that, okay? I'm evolving, actually. I'm just getting better at this.
01:57 I'm expanding. But no. I tweeted it, and this is exactly what the offense has been, really,
02:07 for the past couple years. Now, I think the first season... So we're looking at the Mac Jones era.
02:13 I think the first season, a lot of that was Mac. I thought he did pretty well, honestly,
02:16 in late-game situations, but the offense turned it over. There was Ramondre, I think, had a couple
02:21 key fumbles. They just couldn't put it together, but you're okay. They're still a playoff team,
02:25 and it's a rookie quarterback. The second year, the bottom fell out, obviously, because of Matt
02:28 Patricia. I'm not trying to dog the guy. Apparently, he's in better health. I'm very happy for him.
02:32 Good for him. But at the same time, the coaching wasn't there for the offense to be disciplined
02:36 enough to pull these games out. This time, I think we saw that Mac Jones, he can step up to the plate.
02:42 I thought that the throw to Kendrick Bourne, I asked him, I gave Kendrick Bourne an out. I was
02:47 like, "Hey," and this is still true, Darius Slade hit his arm early on that third and 12 on the
02:51 second to last drive. I said, "I know you guys don't like to make mistakes or make excuses,
02:55 but do you think maybe he got to you early?" He's like, "Hey, man, I expect myself to make
03:00 those tough catches," and he always does, and he didn't come through. And then if Devontae Parker
03:06 is out there instead of Keyshawn Booty, credit to Booty for stepping up in a tough position,
03:10 but those two catches that he could make along the sideline, which again, young receivers still
03:14 wearing into the game. I'm not trying to dog him, but Devontae Parker, that's literally his bread
03:18 and butter. So one, it was a third down stop early in the game that again, you catch that,
03:23 you keep driving. And then obviously the last play of the game where Mac puts it on the money twice,
03:28 and they have to get off the field because guys failed to convert. And obviously the
03:32 self-inflicted errors, that's not Bill O'Brien like at all. That I think is going to get ironed
03:36 out quickly because if they don't, they're just going to get reamed. - He yells a lot.
03:40 - Yeah, yeah. But at the end of the day, I thought you saw, really it was what I expected. I thought
03:45 the formations and things are really going to help the game and the receivers. And we saw that
03:49 several times. I thought Kendrick Bourne was going to show out and he did. He beat Darius Slay and
03:53 James Bradbury for touchdowns. Hunter Henry, I've been saying, what have I been saying? Hunter Henry
03:58 is going to be resurgent. He's going to kill it over the middle and in the red zone, caught a
04:01 touchdown, caught several insane catches today. You see that this offense can be better than what
04:05 they were tonight. And I was saying it's going to be the first week, it's going to be sloppy. I just
04:09 didn't expect it to be that sloppy. It was disappointing, but. - Yeah. And again, I'll go,
04:15 I've been back and forth on it because I thought this was going to get away from them early. I
04:23 really did. And I also didn't think a bad performance on week one would mean that they
04:31 would be bad forever. I just thought the Eagles are a fully formed team, on paper, both sides of
04:39 the ball, the injuries, the offensive line. It's just going to be another, just like the preseason,
04:44 it's going to be, even if they have some things going for them, there's just going to be personnel
04:48 issues that are going to prevent them from being able to remain competitive in this game. Reality
04:52 is after they did what they did to start with the deflected throw and the pick six, and then
04:59 obviously the Zeke fumble that leads to another touchdown there, and they go down 16-0 early. I
05:05 mean, they really outplayed Philadelphia the whole way through. Where I've been back and
05:11 forth in my mind, Taylor, I'm not sure how you feel about it is, did they squander an opportunity
05:19 here to beat a Philadelphia team that might've gotten a little complacent after going out early
05:23 and is also breaking in two new coordinators and didn't really do what they do? It's amazing that
05:29 for periods of time, they just kind of just didn't go to their go-to guys. I mean, you've got A.J.
05:34 Brown, you've got Devonta Smith out there. I just feel like they weren't utilizing their weapons.
05:38 They weren't operating anywhere near full capacity of what you would expect that offense to be.
05:43 And credit to the Patriots defense for doing what they did there because they did make things
05:48 uncomfortable. And the secondary I thought played well, we'll get to Christian Gonzalez, who was
05:52 great. Actually, all the rookies were great. Gonzalez might get headlines because he makes
05:57 that big stick late in the game. And he also had that sack on the corner blitz, but Keon White might
06:04 have been better in this game for what he did. And again, curious your opinion there, but I thought
06:10 he was a consistent presence in there and he played a big role there. Mapu got in there as well and
06:16 got involved. Mario Douglas was clearly heavily involved offensively. So they got a lot of the
06:21 rookies, but they definitely got a lot of their defense. So credit there too. But I do wonder if
06:27 this was a Philly team ripe for the plucking and they kind of missed their shot here.
06:33 I mean, they definitely missed their shot, especially I think early. I think they didn't
06:37 pass because of the weather. We saw the weather was screwing the Patriots. They had drops, they
06:42 had errant passes. And I think the Eagles were like, "All right, we're just going to try to run.
06:46 We're not going to try to make this a throwing game because we don't need to." And I think that
06:49 was what contributed to a lot of them being slow early. You saw them start to get AJ Brown and
06:54 Devontae Smith early involved more in the second half and they did have success, but the Patriots
06:58 didn't give them the downfield stuff. Which is what was scaring the hell out of me. And there
07:04 were a couple lapses, but it's one of those situations where if the Patriots were consistent
07:08 and weren't making their own mistakes and putting themselves in bad positions, then that's a game
07:12 where the Eagles have to score every drive. Because I think the Patriots moved the ball well. I really
07:17 didn't think that. I think the Eagles, they definitely had their shots and they were allowing
07:22 nothing in the ground. I'm not trying to take anything away from their defense. But I think
07:25 if the Patriots could have been a consistent scoring presence, the way they were situating
07:28 themselves until they made their own mistakes, it would have put the Eagles in a position where they
07:32 had to score every drive and the Patriots just weren't letting that happen because they were
07:36 making things tough. And even though they were putting drives together, the Eagles,
07:39 they weren't consistent. So yeah, I think they missed the opportunity. Do we want to talk about
07:42 the rookies too? Because I love the rookies. We'll start with, you know, I wanted to kind of
07:48 hit a little bit on everything because there were some surprises here. I think you got to start with
07:52 the offense, though, before we before we go back to the rookies and the two things that I would say
07:59 the most the biggest standout thing in this game to me was the offensive line, which was the most
08:08 shocking thing that happened all night was that this offensive line, did they give up one sack?
08:13 Yeah, one sack. I think they did actually. No, I'm thinking of the Moffee quick pressure. I'm
08:19 not even sure. They gave up at least a couple of sacks, but I don't know if they are really
08:23 on pressure or coverage. I'd have to go back and check this. They held up really, really well in
08:28 this. Yeah. I remember that Moffee gave up a quick pressure that forced Mac to roll out and that was
08:34 an incompletion on the sideline to Booty. But offensive line evaluation. Two sacks all game.
08:39 Two sacks. I'm not going to lie. I don't remember exactly how those went. I know one was for sure
08:43 coverage that one was very late. Yes. I think City so lost a third and three run that they
08:50 had late. He just got stood up immediately and it gave the run no chance. So there were
08:56 blemishes that I noticed. But again, for the most part, I didn't notice them in a bad way.
09:01 Like I can remember the two plays where they stood out poorly. So I think you have to chalk it up
09:05 until you can really, you know, I'm a film guy, so I like to be able to see the end zone, really
09:09 see what those guys are doing on a snap to snap basis. The run game struggled and I don't know
09:12 how much of that was poor execution from him versus the Eagles just have a dominant front.
09:16 I think it's probably a bit of both more of the latter. But yeah, pass protection was surprisingly
09:21 not an issue today. And I thought that was huge. I think City so was better regard anyway. It's
09:25 where he played mostly in college and clearly he's getting up to speed playing on the edge in the
09:29 NFL. But Mafia had a pretty strong preseason and I think City so is a talented player who's better
09:35 off inside right now. And, you know, they really kept the offensive float when they had no business
09:41 being in that game without on when you in strange like that scared the hell out of me.
09:45 So you'll look at it here. They give up the two sacks and they're missing two starting offensive
09:49 linemen here. And they're already there. You've already got question marks at the right tackle
09:53 position. I thought they held up well there as well. So you got Mac doing what he did,
09:59 which is 54 pass attempts, which I don't know that we saw this in the game plan here in terms
10:04 of what they wanted to do. I don't know if they set out this way thinking was what they wanted
10:08 to do, but this is how the game evolved. And as you said, there wasn't much room to run.
10:11 Stevenson couldn't get anything going. They tried to work Zeke in a little bit.
10:16 It just there really wasn't much there at all. So Mac throws throws the ball 54 times,
10:22 goes over 300 yards, throws three touchdown passes, made some really, really good throws
10:29 after a really slow start. And again, you're going to have to look at it and I'm sure you'll
10:34 dig deep into it. But your overall snapshot performance on how Mac played because, yeah,
10:40 he left some out there, too. Yeah. Like I think he mentioned that there were plays where he
10:44 didn't probably read it right or he didn't his eyes weren't in the right place. I think the
10:50 rule was a four down. It was one late down in the game where he looked to his left to the bunch
10:56 and it looked like there was a lot of just contact. Hunter Henry and Juju ran into each other.
11:02 I think that was his first look. And then he got pressure and kind of I want to say panicked,
11:06 but it looked like Hendrick Bourne might have been open behind the coverage to his right and
11:11 he didn't see it. Obviously, the high throw, he admitted the pick six was a high throw.
11:16 Obviously, that's worst case scenario. Like people get away with bad throws. You just pray
11:20 it doesn't end up in the ball so long it gets intercepted. But at the same time, I thought he
11:24 made more than enough throws to make up for the mistakes as well. And he was the reason they stayed
11:28 in that game. Like I'm again, like you said, the film is going to tell the true story. But I wouldn't
11:35 say Mac Jones was a reason that they weren't in that game. I again, he was every reason that they
11:39 were. I thought that just little bits and pieces around him didn't come through when they needed to.
11:46 Like I know Demario Douglas had some great catch. He was four for 40. But there were also a few
11:50 times where he and Mac did seem to be on the same page. So those were like lost plays. Keishon
11:55 Booty, there was looked like one or two miscommunications to him. And then he couldn't
11:59 make it on the sideline. Kendrick Bourne not coming up. I think there was one where he was
12:04 short and obviously the third and 12. So, you know, guys definitely could have done more for
12:08 him in critical situations. But I'm sure that he wasn't perfect either. And I'm sure he's right
12:12 that there were times where his eyes maybe didn't put him in the best position to succeed on certain
12:17 plays. Yeah. But again, you have to look at it relative to last year and what you saw from Mac.
12:26 Oh, yeah. Totally different person. Totally looks like. And so that's kind of what is it perfect?
12:31 No. Could it get better? Yes. But again, it's we're talking a guy who at times last year,
12:38 you know, people wanted, you know, a practice squad player, a below replacement level player
12:44 to replace him. I wasn't one of those people just to they were fine. They were so fed up with it
12:50 right or wrong. But the you know, he clearly took a step back. You know, is this closer to year one?
12:59 Is this you know, is this even slightly better than what you're saying? This is past year one
13:04 because he's he looks great in the pocket and he was I think the combination of consistent pressure
13:10 and the fact that his offense wasn't functional and didn't give him answers like Bill O'Brien's
13:14 offense does. Those are the reasons that Matt crumbled under pressure because in college he
13:18 was fine throwing under heat like he didn't have a big weakness outside of his physical limitations.
13:23 It was like he's smart. He's a point guard. He's going to get the ball. He's going to find the
13:26 match. Blah, blah, blah. Last year didn't put him in position to do any of those things.
13:30 Now, even when the pressure does kind of get home and he feels it, you can see he's more
13:34 confident. So like you look nimble in the pocket. He used his legs several times to extend play.
13:38 We saw flashes that last season, but again, he couldn't really he was forcing things.
13:43 So the bad really took over, even though there was a ton of good with him scrambling like
13:48 by next gen stats, he was the most elusive quarterback. Like, obviously,
13:52 you know, it's not exactly he's not the most elusive quarterback in the league,
13:55 but relative to the number of times he was pressured and got out of it,
13:59 he was statistically the most elusive. So that's like something to that.
14:02 That's like the Sam Hauser led the league in defensive rating sort of stat.
14:07 But he was running a lot last season. I think there was more mobility that he showed that he
14:12 got credit for because he forced things. So he did. And I will say that like you want to see
14:17 Mac under pressure. How's he doing when it's on schedule? Is he finding the right guys?
14:20 He's finding the right guys, all these plays like him and O'Brien are really in sync. And again,
14:24 it's the giving him answers to the test that I thought was going to make Mac the best version
14:29 of himself, because O'Brien will not put you in position where you're basically just wasting it
14:33 down. And I think we're seeing Mac confident. And I thought he looked I thought he for the
14:38 most part, he looked like a professional quarterback. He looked confident. He didn't
14:42 look shook. And again, how much of it again, we're going to say this 100 times because,
14:47 oh, I don't want to dog Matty P because, you know, the iteration of Maddie Patricia that we saw last
14:54 year doesn't do justice to the Maddie Patricia that once served this franchise well. So people
14:59 do feel bad to kind of heap it all on him. But the reality is there was no trust and no confidence
15:04 last year. And that obviously had to affect Mac. The question was, how big an effect would the Bill
15:11 O'Brien effect have on this? Like, yes, I mean, all preseason long, all training camp long,
15:19 almost every single soundbite was along those lines. Right. Taylor was it's kind of it's
15:25 professional. It's tight. It's like we know what it's like. It's obvious he knows what he's doing.
15:31 Almost everything they said about Bill O'Brien was a referendum on the previous regime and the
15:36 way that the offense was run last year, which was a total freaking clown show. So, yes, we knew it
15:41 was going to be better. The question is, how much better and is it good enough to overcome
15:46 some personnel deficiencies, which would be an old line that's still kind of playing its way into
15:51 shape and into into proper health and a less than dynamic receiving core, which, again, they got
15:59 good performances out of Kendrick Bourne. Hunter Henry is definitely his new binky now that Jacobi
16:04 Myers is gone. And, you know, I think that's going to be a security blanket for Mac and someone who's
16:09 going to make plays for him. But you're you're you know, you're the fact that you're relying
16:14 on Boutte. And again, Parker is out to have to make a play a couple of plays late in the game.
16:19 That's not necessarily great. They're still going to have to battle some personnel issues,
16:22 which will, I think, limit what they're able to do. But Mac looked like he knew what he was doing
16:27 out there. And I think that that's what people wanted to see was, OK, he looks like an NFL
16:33 quarterback. It's not the guy that was kind of like I mean, flat out just he was missing throws
16:38 last year. He just looked bad all around. It wasn't just the offense. I think it was it was,
16:44 you know, a lot of it was on him, too. I mean, I agree. I feel like I'm beating a
16:49 dead horse at this point. I think he's significantly better. He looked like the
16:53 kind of quarterback that you want to see and that he was, again, he was accurate. He was making
16:57 largely the right decisions. He was doing well under pressure, all those things. I think that
17:01 who we see right now, especially for Mac, is not who he's going to be by midseason, because one,
17:06 O'Brien's offense is going to continue to grow. I guarantee you there's things you saw in this
17:10 game plan that O'Brien is going to have a version of in the next game where he knows the Dolphins
17:16 defensive coordinator, Vic Fangio, is going to see it and have something off of it. And that's
17:20 going to help Mac because Mac is going to have this comfort in the system. They mesh like I'm
17:23 telling you, this is a great start for Mac for the most part in this game. And I really think that
17:29 he's going to take like quantum leaps in terms of his intelligence and on field performance.
17:34 Thanks to O'Brien. So that was the positive. We're going to talk as well about the rookies
17:39 that certainly were positive as well, including Christian Gonzalez, who's a great interview,
17:45 by the way, the guy, he can't not smile, huh? He seems like such a nice guy. He's such a nice guy.
17:51 And I think that that's a knock on him because he's pretty chill. And one of the answers he gave
17:55 tonight was exactly that, like, yeah, this is just kind of how I roll and this is how I ride.
18:00 And everyone wants to see him, you know, make a bigger fuss about things. And, you know, I don't
18:09 get it. The same I'll say this because this one bothers me. The same people that say that would
18:16 be the same people making an issue of it if he was celebrating after every single tackle that he made
18:21 and saying like he should focus more on the game than drawing attention to himself. So I like them.
18:28 The thing I like most about Gonzalez, not most, but he was good in run support. He came up and
18:34 he tackled the things that you were most worried about. What are they? One of them is a superficial
18:38 nonsense about there's not enough dog in him. And then the other is physicality. You know,
18:43 those two things there. But there was a lot to like. I mean, there was some underneath stuff
18:49 that he allowed and that might have been part of the game plan because you're right. They don't
18:53 want to get beat over the top. But for the most part, he was right there, you know, where where
18:57 he needed to be. And then you asked him about that play on that fourth down. You know, he's like,
19:02 just film, man. You know, like I knew what I needed to do. I knew where I needed to be. So
19:06 like he's got his head on straight to in addition to all the physical tools. Yeah. I tried to throw
19:10 in some football words to see if he'd get in depth. I was like, yeah. So they were showing
19:14 you in cover zero, zero. And I was like, maybe you'll give me some tea. And he was like, no,
19:20 man, just film somebody. Yeah, he was awesome. The two ones he gave up underneath. I will say
19:25 that's one area where he can improve because he's such a great athlete. He doesn't need to
19:28 overplay things. Right. And he's really calm when he recovers. So there was one where I thought he
19:33 was a little soft on an underneath route to AJ Brown. And there was another where he took a bad
19:37 angle and let I think it was Devante Smith get back inside. So those are the two ones where I'm
19:41 like, all right, you know, learning experiences. That's really what plagued him in the preseason
19:44 as well, which is like how he responds to underneath throws. But again, yeah, for the
19:48 most part, he had the great breakup deep on the corner route where Martin Mapu was also over the
19:52 top. He had a third down stop. He had the fourth down stop, which again, he knew that the because
19:59 the Patriots are showing it all out blitz and they did all out blitz. He knew that Devante Smith was
20:04 just going to have to get into a quick route. So he waited until he declared and then almost got
20:08 in his way for it. So, yeah, he was fantastic. I think I was I was saying to Brett Coleman,
20:13 who does a great job over the bootleg football podcast on YouTube. He was saying like, yeah,
20:17 I think the Patriots are just going to like try to let these guys be dogs and like, you know,
20:22 adjust if they can't. And I was like, oh, it's good. I was going to get a chance to beat the
20:27 physicality allegations because that's not what we've seen. And yeah, he finally got a chance
20:32 to do that today against two maybe the league's best receiving tandem like Jamar Chase and
20:37 T Higgins are up there as well. But, you know, this is a well-rounded explosive group. And
20:42 Gonzalez was still waddle. They'll see a few of them. No, I don't yet. Damn, this league is
20:47 must be cool to have two stars. Yeah, it must be. We'll get into the Patriots receivers a little bit
20:53 to your thoughts on some of the other rookies. You know, Keon White, I mentioned earlier.
20:58 And obviously, you know, on the offensive side of the ball, definitely a little bit out of the Mario
21:03 who was who was who was used, you know, with with Parker out, you know, a fair amount.
21:09 So speed round Keon White. Yeah, I think he had three pressures officially. One, he hit jail and
21:15 hurts his hand and forced the third and 20. Yeah, he did his job. I thought he looked awesome.
21:20 Marte Mop who lined up all over the place. I didn't see him making any mistakes, but I did
21:24 see him in on a couple of plays. Matt, you don't credit him for being so versatile. I was praying
21:29 that he was going to be used to free safety and in the box so bad. And everyone's like, oh, but
21:34 it's a learning curve. And I'm thinking like, oh, he's pretty smart. I think he can still do it.
21:37 And he did and got the respect of the veterans. I thought that was awesome. It's huge if he can
21:42 contribute early because he's one of the best athletes they have in their entire defense.
21:45 Yeah. Does Ryland does Berenger count as a defensive? Yeah, whatever. Berenger had three
21:50 punts inside the 20. He had one touchback that was really bad where he should have been able to pin
21:56 them inside the five and he couldn't. For the most part, he had a great game. Mario Douglas,
22:03 like I said, four catches, 40 yards or some miscommunications. It wasn't perfect, but still,
22:07 you know, you wanted to see something from him and he showed it. Also kind of concerning that
22:12 Juju didn't seem to play in the second half. Wonder what that's about. Yeah. So that I want
22:16 to get there and I want to talk about that because. Yeah, I can. Yeah, I think I covered everybody
22:20 pretty much. Yeah, no, that was that was interesting. We'll get a little bit to
22:23 Juju. We'll get to a couple of things, including some game management issues that, you know, again,
22:28 we talk about this game as you know, we're going to I'm sure there's going to be a bit of a moral
22:33 victory parade going on, because again, this was a really good team that I think some people out
22:38 there, not Taylor Taylor, knew exactly what was going to happen, but some people out there did
22:43 not think that this would be competitive. I mean, I'm not going to say Cowboys, Giants and what we
22:47 saw tonight on Sunday Night Football, but there was a version there was there was a version of
22:52 this game that could have gone really, really, really bad. And it didn't at all. And as I said,
22:57 the Patriots actually outplayed the Eagles for most of this game. We'll get into those things
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24:05 Let's get into some of the weird stuff. I'm a go-for-it-on-fourth-down. I'm a go-for-it-on-fourth-
24:13 and short guy when you're late. In this particular instance, I thought the field goal was the right
24:19 call. We're looking at about nine minutes left in the game. 930, I think it was. Patriots like
24:25 not to kick a field goal down eight. Philly then goes up 11. Patriots try to get it to five. They
24:33 can't convert on a two-pointer. But they kept getting into range where a field goal could have
24:39 potentially tied or taken a lead. At that moment, did you think that that was the call? Or would you
24:44 have gone for it on fourth? It was, I believe, fourth and three from the 17. Is that what it was?
24:49 - Yeah. Fourth and three is a very manageable situation.
24:52 - I like fourth and short. I like fourth and short. - Yeah. I didn't mind it. I understand.
24:57 I'm not going to sit here and be like, "Oh, you wanted a field goal."
25:00 - But it's more a math thing in my mind. It's not going for it. It's a math thing of,
25:06 "Are you sure you're keeping them completely off the scoreboard?" Because again, your field goal,
25:12 if you trade field goals, kind of still keeps it as a one-score game, but you miss it and they get
25:16 one. Now your two scores down on the clock is working against you. That's what it's always
25:20 about for me is you still need to score and you still need the ball back there in that situation.
25:29 But if they go down and score on their next position, now you need it twice and you've
25:33 really made it hard on yourself in that case. So that was the logic behind it, not the down and
25:39 distance and whether it was manageable or not. - A hundred percent. And I think sometimes these
25:44 coaches, yes, they always have their analytics on the sideline. And I think, again, like I said,
25:48 I think it would have made sense to go for field goals those times. But at the same time,
25:52 I think, I don't know how much was offense or defense. In my mind, I'm thinking the Eagles,
25:57 even if you do well, are an offense where you have to assume that they could score on the next
26:01 possession, which that's just me. I'm not saying that's how the Patriots feel. I'm sure they had
26:05 plenty of confidence in their defense, but offensively, these guys have talked all summer
26:09 about how much confidence they have, how much Bill O'Brien has done for them. And we saw a lot
26:13 of that tonight. It wasn't perfect, but we saw that when they were in the right play and especially
26:17 in manageable situations, they looked really good and they moved the ball well. So I thought it made
26:21 sense. The one later I thought was just them thinking like the Eagles, again, I think that
26:26 one was thinking the Eagles could probably score and we just need to be aggressive here. And they're
26:30 not even wrong because on third and 12, they almost converted. You couldn't count on when the
26:38 situation was going to come through for them and when they were going to have a dud, but I think
26:41 the Patriots showing confidence means a lot. How many times over the past couple of years have we
26:46 been upset because Belichick was too conservative because Mac was a rookie or Matt Patricia's
26:51 offense just couldn't be counted on. And now they finally have that in Kendrick Bourne said after
26:56 the game, he was like, it's nice. The offense or defense have to fear that. And we have to be an
27:00 offense where it's fourth down and they don't know that we're just going to be off the field.
27:03 Like I love that. That's what the Eagles do. There was one game I was watching, I think it was
27:08 against the Giants where the Eagles were like fourth and seven only. I think they were up seven
27:12 points in the second quarter. And they were just like, you know what, I'm just going to throw a
27:17 slot fade 40 yards downfield to Devante Smith. They scored a touchdown on it. Like I want to
27:22 have that kind of offense. Yeah. But do you, but I like the confidence. And I think that you have,
27:28 like, if this offense starts rolling field, Devante Parker, if you know, Kendrick Bourne
27:31 makes a catch, he usually makes when you have those two guys and Hunter Henry making crazy
27:35 catches, you're willing to do that because those guys very rarely make mistakes. Just tonight,
27:40 just saw too many mistakes from too many people in too many critical situations.
27:43 A lot of mistakes, some self-inflicted stuff for sure. And you don't see that,
27:49 but this was a weird one on the game management side. And then, you know, they got themselves
27:54 in trouble late where they pushed themselves all the way back and it's, you're at the 40
27:58 something and it's third and 17 and you're going for it as opposed to maybe trying to sneak a few
28:03 more yards and let Ryland try to kick one. That was another odd one when they got the ball back.
28:08 I mean, they ended up with the ball three times after that. So, and you know, Bill Belichick's
28:14 kind of rationale was he wasn't sure how many more times he'd get it. But at that point we're
28:18 talking night, we're talking nine minutes left. But that's the thing. The Eagles are the best
28:23 team in the league in training the clock. Like I, that's one of the, that's what I was afraid of
28:26 because we've seen them go on like 10 minute drives before at the end of games, because they're just
28:31 like, we're going to out muscle you. And you really don't know. Cause they have so it's one
28:34 thing. If it's a team that can only run or a team that can only throw where you say, we're going to
28:38 make them play with one hand, I behind their back. And I like us, the Eagles have way too many
28:43 options. So I completely got that. I was terrified anytime they had the ball, but a combination of
28:48 poor execution on their part and great jobs by the Patriots just costs of crazy stops.
28:53 The offense couldn't convert on, but I'm with Belichick. I, I have a respect, a level of
28:59 respectful fear for the Eagles offense and their ability to throw anything at you where you can't
29:03 confidently like load up against the run or the pass. Yeah. So a couple of questions there on the
29:10 game management, which we can talk about. I, I do think it is fair to talk about the receivers
29:15 because that's something we do a lot. And particularly Juju and Juju wasn't not out
29:22 for the entire second half, but he wasn't out there on that last drive.
29:26 And he was asked about it after the game. And so, you know, this is a desperation drive and
29:32 this is a guy you brought in to be your number one. He's your number one, you know, de facto,
29:36 number one receiver because they don't have a true number one. He should be a go-to guy here.
29:44 He should be, but he's not. Yeah. Especially with DeVante Parker out like, yeah, that's where you
29:49 were brought in here to replace Jacoby Myers, who was the go-to guy when you needed a completion,
29:53 you went to this guy. That's kind of what he's supposed to be in here to do. He's supposed to
29:57 kind of be the man. You have DeVante Parker, who's your 50/50 ball guy. They tried a couple to Boutte
30:04 who, who simulated that and it didn't really work. You know, everyone's got their roles here. Hunter
30:10 Henley's, Hunter Henry's a safety valve, but Juju Smith-Schuster, if you need completions,
30:14 he wasn't in there. They're running a, they're running a set with Douglas and Boutte in, in,
30:21 in place of him. In fact, among wide receivers, all game, he was third in snaps. Boutte was second
30:27 in this game behind Kendrick Bourne, which was also a bit surprising. So Juju,
30:34 it's fine to run different packages. It's, it's weird for Juju Smith-Schuster not to be
30:41 involved in almost all of them. Wouldn't you say? Yeah, I think that's just injury related.
30:46 Like that just is what makes sense. I got to respect him. We're led to believe this. We're
30:50 led to believe there isn't a knee injury and that's kind of what we're kind of talking about.
30:54 He's probably lying. I think he's lying. Cause like, why else would you be out that long?
31:01 I don't know that. I don't agree that he was supposed to become the number one. I think he
31:06 was expected to be a high volume target. I think they knew that Devante Parker was their best guy
31:09 and that Kendrick Bourne could be much better in the right system. I think Juju was like,
31:14 all right, a solid, like worst case scenario, we have a guy who can, you know, be a thousand yard
31:18 receiver. But yeah, I think he's lying. I think it's something on his knee. Yeah. Plain and simple.
31:23 Unless they really trusted Mario Douglas and considering how often he and Mac didn't seem
31:28 like they were on the same page. I just don't think that's likely. And it's not like the Eagles are
31:32 playing so much main coverage and I'm like, okay, you need to Mario Douglas as a separator. Like
31:36 thought they, I thought, especially with all the bunches and stacks they used, they're basically
31:39 just playing with rules. They're not really playing man or playing zone. They're going into
31:43 a certain area and getting picked up by certain guys. And those bunches worked for them, you
31:47 know, it's just, but again, it's just, it was curious. He played the third. Yeah. Someone did.
31:53 And that, Oh, that was a good question. But again, in terms of snaps he was third on the team behind
31:59 Bourne 73, Boutte 55 Juju with 43 to Mario Douglas, 33 among the Y among the receivers, among the wide
32:07 receivers. And I think booty was just like plugging in like your Devante Parker this week. That's
32:11 what exactly routes run. He was tied for third with the Mario Douglas with 27 targets. He was
32:18 tied for second with, with the Mario Douglas as well. He had one drop where sure. Matt could have
32:24 put it in there better, but he probably has got to come up with that as well. But he wasn't impactful
32:29 at all in this game. And then he was out. So there's going to be chatter among Juju. And if
32:34 he is in fact hurt, well, you know what, that's some damaged goods there. And that's going to be
32:38 a problem as well. Taylor. Yeah. I know you don't want this to be, but it might be. Yeah. I mean,
32:46 sure. I, I think that really, especially we saw how much to running back sets they used
32:53 with Zeke and I wanted to talk about the story camp in there. Um, I think there was, I mean,
32:59 that was a college offense. Like that's what he was doing with Jameer Gibbs and the other guy.
33:02 Um, so I think that really he was just trying it and I think they really do like Z.
33:06 I thought one, the fact like Zeke didn't look good. A lot of it was because he was mostly running.
33:11 Either one of them could run very good. I thought, yeah, no, he had like highlights.
33:15 I'm just saying that it looked kind of funky. I think the screens, they just were doing too much.
33:20 I understand they needed to protect their alignment, but he got to a point where it's
33:23 like, you can't keep putting yourselves in these positions where you're basically,
33:27 it's a dead play because the reacting to it so well. Um, they did open up the offense to be
33:33 fair to the point where I don't think it was as obvious, but the screen game had one positive play
33:37 that I remember the rest of it wasn't great. So I think it was the screen game, but I thought it
33:41 was really interesting what he was doing with the two backs. And I think that that is going to really
33:46 mitigate if Juju can't play. Cause then you were a lot of the time, but that's the thing is even
33:51 talking about that is a bit of a problem, right? You have Parker, you have Parker miss week one.
33:55 And if Juju is physically limited or he's just a guy in this offense, that's just part of certain
34:02 packages, but not part of all of them. And you know, he's not, well, also remember a lot of his
34:07 contract is incentive based. So if he doesn't do anything this year, he doesn't get paid that much.
34:12 Like that was a big thing. It looks like Jacoby Myers contract. Jacoby Myers got that money
34:15 guaranteed showed why today Juju didn't because he was coming off a knee injury. So it doesn't
34:20 play and it becomes just a guy. His cap is going to reflect that. Well, why don't we talk a little
34:25 bit about Jacoby Myers? Um, nine receptions, 81 yards, 10 targets. He out targets Devante Adams
34:33 course, because the volunteers were like any double gold, you know, and he has two touchdowns,
34:37 his first career multi touchdown game. Um, so he does what Jacoby Myers doesn't again. I wasn't
34:44 never a huge Jacoby Myers guy either, but he's reliable. He's a reliable target and he's whatever
34:51 it is a straight up. You look at those contracts and they are similar. I know there's more
34:55 incentives tied up to Juju. Um, but this comparison is going to be made all year. And if Juju is
35:03 nursing a knee or his knees about to explode, uh, which, you know, he's,
35:08 Speaker 1 (1h 0m 50s): I want someone to say that, like, why would you put that out there?
35:11 Speaker 3 (1h 0m 55s): I don't know. It doesn't matter. I wait. Juju's answer wasn't great either.
35:16 He was like, I don't think it's going to explode. I was like, no, no, no. Juju tell us. It's not
35:21 going to explode. It's because of how insane that a question that is to be asked is your knee
35:26 going to explode. Yeah. Probably wouldn't be blind football. If that was something that he was like,
35:30 definitely afraid of. I know, but if it's something that requires management starting on game one,
35:34 not great. Um, not great. It's not great. Jacoby Myers was great. Um, but don't go sign that
35:43 Taylor. Just don't go sign damaged goods. That's all I'm saying. He's not even going to be that
35:48 expensive. And he, I know, but don't, it's not a matter of what he costs. It's a matter of what
35:53 you need. That was your money, but that's okay. So you're saying, I didn't even think he was going
35:58 to be like, if the offense was good, I did not expect him to be one of the leading receivers.
36:01 No, no, no. I thought he was going to be high volume. I did not think beyond that. Okay.
36:07 So I knew Kendrick Ford was going to take a step. I've been saying Devante Parker's the best
36:11 receiver forever. Hunter Henry, Mike Kosicki. If those guys compliment each other, that's four
36:16 guys that you're throwing to before you would want to throw to Juju Smith Schuster.
36:19 And then we're monitoring. Stevenson is also better in that role. So like I, but he needs to
36:24 be limited, but what did you sign him? I thought he was going to be high volume because he can beat
36:28 zone and he just is someone who can't catch, but they have so many more talented people. I was
36:33 like, he is your, I mean, yes, as a security blanket, like if everything went to crap,
36:38 then the Juju thing looks really bad because he was the only guy that you thought was going to
36:41 be reliable. And he's hurt. I will give you that. Like he was supposed to at least be
36:45 hyper reliable. I'm always doing the right thing, but if he's not on the field, then you can't be
36:49 that. And again, the numbers will reflect that in his contract if he loses time. But yeah,
36:54 I'll give you that. Like you'd hope he was someone who could be on the field more often.
36:59 Yes. I still don't think he's like even your necessarily fifth best receiving option in
37:03 terms of talent. Oh my God. We're down to four. He's not. Oh my God. Booney and DeMario Douglas
37:09 should both be better than him. Oh my God. So don't sign them at all. No, they needed someone.
37:15 They needed somebody because if you don't want tomorrow, Douglas, occasion booty, then you only
37:18 have to be hop. Just put it in your pocket. Not even the same contract. I'm not doing that. Had
37:25 to hop to today. He was boy today. I'm not getting into that, but boy, did they boy, did they force
37:33 feed him today? Holy wow. 13 targets, twice, twice throws to him were intercepted, ended up with six
37:42 perceptions. That's the fear with a guy like Hoskins is that you got to throw him the ball
37:47 because he demands the ball, but he was covered all game and he still had 13 targets. He said he
37:53 can't separate from any coverage. I know, but he still had a good contested catch rate and he still,
37:59 yeah. And I also said that, but I also said he can't separate and that metric was decent.
38:02 His metrics were decent. Anyway, Kendrick Bourne was great. One of the things Mack talked about
38:08 after the game was like, they're like best friends. Yeah. That's my go-to guy. I was like,
38:12 that's my guy. And that's my best buddy. He said too. So I think that Mack born connection actually
38:18 is going to be pretty solid all year. That's why you don't spend money on Hopkins because you pay
38:24 your own people. I've had born don't keep. First of all, you spent money on Kendrick Bourne in the
38:30 first place because you signed him as a free agent. You just did it a couple of years ago.
38:34 All we're at all. We're advocating here. Taylor is signing guys you like. So if you like Kendrick
38:39 Bourne sign more Kendrick Bourne's don't sign guys whose knees are exploding. That's all I'm saying.
38:43 I'm not saying his knees exploding, but don't sign guys. Don't sign question mark guys.
38:49 Everyone's a question. More guy, the juju thing might be nothing, but it definitely is something
38:56 that bears watching for sure. But born look good. So it's nice to have a little more dynamic piece
39:02 of that offense there, but like, what's the ceiling on this offense? Like I'll ask you this,
39:07 you work out some kinks. You could be a more of a well-oiled machine, but downfield, I don't know
39:12 what you're able to do here. What do you think? Like where is like the, that's why I said he was
39:18 a huge loss. He is your, I don't really care. Who's covering him. If he's one-on-one on the
39:22 outside, I'm throwing to him deep. If you leave him on, if you leave him one-on-one and he's
39:27 usually going to win, like, it doesn't really matter who it is. So I think that, and I said,
39:30 that was a big miss. I think Kendrick born though, still had plays downfield. He showed what he could
39:35 do. I think we just didn't see Hunter Henry much as like a downfield guy where like he's ripping up
39:40 the scene, but he had a couple of catches over the middle. I think Mike is sec. He could be more
39:43 of a downfield threat than he was used as, but it's very early. I think they're just seeing what
39:47 guys can do. I like to see Mike to sec. He stretched it a little bit. Cause he can run
39:51 and that's what he is, you know? And I think Bill O'Brien, like when we say put guys in position to
39:55 succeed, I think that is where he comes in where no, if you line up two by two spread, look where
40:00 you have two slots and two outside guys. If you ask everyone to separate, like, no, they're probably
40:05 not going to, but if you give them the advantage of knowing, like you saw with the touchdown to
40:10 James Bradbury. So Kendrick Moore was lined up outside and basically Bradbury knew that if he
40:17 went vertical, he had all of him. So it's just man to man. So Bradbury thought he was going deep,
40:23 turned his hips toward the sideline. Then Kendrick Moore breaks underneath on a post
40:27 and he burns the guy. And then you saw later he had, he burned Darius Slay on a double move.
40:32 It's like when you put him in those positions where he can just craft guys up with his routes
40:36 and set them up, he's a downfield threat. If Parker's one-on-one, he's a downfield threat.
40:40 If you get Kasicki and Hunter Henry on a slot or a safety there, you know what I'm saying? Like
40:44 sure. O'Brien can make them downfield weapons. And I think that's where Mac excels, where he
40:49 wants to be aggressive all the time. So if you give him that matchup, it's going to set it off
40:53 in his head and he's going to go after it. And then we'll see if they can be consistent. But
40:56 I think this can be not like a 40 passing yards whenever we want kind of offense,
41:01 but like, yeah, we're going to get a first down and then some pretty consistently if we want.
41:06 And we saw that, like how quickly he was putting drives together. Romandier Stevenson obviously
41:10 had two big gains underneath because of poor tackling. But at the same time, like you see
41:14 how quickly this offense can move down the field when all things are clicking. So I think their
41:19 ceiling is like a top 12 offense. They were top 10 when Mac was a rookie. And that's you know,
41:24 that was without Devontae Parker, Cole Strange, Mike and Wynu. And they looked good when they
41:29 weren't screwing themselves over against a good defense that, albeit, you know, wasn't called the
41:34 best. I think they probably could have been put in better positions themselves. But yeah, for the
41:38 most part, I thought there was a lot of exciting big play potential from this offense that should
41:43 only be getting better. Okay. And so we've spent a time, we've spent a lot of time in the offense
41:48 because again, I think that's the biggest question mark. And that's the thing that's going to get
41:51 talk. But let's ask about it. If you say it's a top 12 offense potential, how good can this
41:58 defense be? Is this, was this like emblematic of who they are? Can they be better? What, you know,
42:04 what stood out to you as far as what the defense was able to do against again, a team that has
42:10 a terrific O-line, you know, two of the best receivers, you know, one of the best receiver
42:15 tandems out there and a quarterback that can beat you in a lot of different ways.
42:18 And again, a team that honestly just, you know what I thought, Taylor, I thought for sure,
42:23 one of the things that we would see is kind of a boring game, but one where the Eagles would just
42:27 run because the Patriots have not been terrific. You know, in the preseason, they weren't great
42:33 either. And they were giving up more yardage than you wanted in the run game. I thought that's where
42:39 Philly was going to make their bones here, not flinging it all over the yard. I thought they
42:44 were just going to kind of exert their will and just run it, run it, run it. And that wasn't the
42:48 case. Yeah. I don't think the Patriots are a team where when they really, I think the Ravens are
42:52 really the only team where they pretty consistently been able to put them on their heels. But for the
42:56 most part, this front does do a good job of if the game plan is like, we cannot get run on and
43:02 that's with Philly. Like if they can run on you for the entire game, then you're in a lot of
43:04 trouble because they can play so many things off of it and put you in bad positions. But the front
43:08 did a really good job against the running backs for the most part, making sure they stayed hemmed
43:12 in. And that's what made the passing game so much harder because you couldn't mix in those kind of
43:17 RPO elements as much the reaction, because they were really not giving you much to work with.
43:23 And I think that made Philly very uncomfortable and it forced them to be pretty much one
43:26 dimensional. Like even the Jalen Hurts runs, they turned them all when they needed to,
43:30 but you saw after there was that one play where they stopped it, then they were loading up fronts
43:35 and making it so that Philly probably didn't want to run into those looks. But I think this could be,
43:40 I've already thought this, I thought they could be the best defense in football. And I thought that
43:45 they were held by penalties and just poor execution at times as well. Like it wasn't a perfect
43:49 performance by any means where I'm like, yes, this is the best defense in football, but they're an
43:53 elite unit. And I think like, I don't care how many opportunities the Eagles give you, if you
43:59 hold them to a modest day, and I would say today was well below modest for them, you're a good
44:05 defense because they don't just stumble into bad games this way. So I thought, especially up front,
44:10 like the pass rush was a consistent factor when they weren't mush rushing, which is my least
44:14 favorite thing in football. I can't stand it. I get why they did it against empty because you are
44:18 afraid of him running, but there were some times that annoyed me, but yeah, man, I was really
44:23 impressed by the defense. It was awesome seeing the young guys contribute and look good early.
44:27 And I thought the veterans were who we thought they were. It's real peppers. Holy crap, man. He
44:31 went nuts. The two plays I was most afraid of, he defended, he like got from center field to the
44:36 sideline on a fade to Devante Smith. And he forced a fumble when Hertz actually broke free
44:42 on a QB draw, which I was so, I was just, I knew it was coming and I said it out loud and they did
44:48 it and he was just in the open field. And then thankfully Jabril got a pad on the ball and
44:53 knocked it out and gave the offense a chance to score and they couldn't again, but yeah,
44:57 all that defense was so much fun to watch. They're awesome. They're going to be really good.
45:00 So, and again, if a competent offense and a stingy defense keeps you competitive,
45:08 and then it's just a question of where can you take it from here? So no matter how you look at it,
45:12 you have to feel a little better about the Patriots today. Like I said, I don't love
45:19 moral victories, but the, they were supposed to lose this game though, in the realm of pot,
45:26 in the, in the range of possibilities, not many of them had the Patriots winning this game.
45:31 I don't think just the way things stacked up and this is an honestly, they should have won this
45:36 game. So you have to come away with it, feeling decent about the Patriots being able to hang with
45:42 teams. Cause again, you're not going to play a better team this year. And we don't know Philly
45:48 could have been operating on 30%, you know, efficiency here. And the Philly, this Philly
45:53 team might be a totally different team a few weeks from now. I expect that they will be, but
45:56 it's definitely a positive sign. So I think it's fair to take that moral victory lap
46:04 off of this one. If you're a Patriots fan and you know, kind of start to look ahead
46:10 with some of these games that you were wondering, wow, this is a tough schedule and a tough start
46:14 to the schedule and start looking at some of these toss-up games as winnable games,
46:18 or some of these difficult games as winnable games, some of these toss-ups as ones that
46:21 you're going to put in the win column and start to, you know, maybe look at the season a little
46:25 bit differently. Not all the way there yet. And obviously, you know, a lot can change in a week,
46:29 but you know, definitely some good stuff we saw today from the Patriots. Even though again,
46:37 a 25 to 20 opening week loss. Taylor, I'll let your fan boy out a little bit here. How did,
46:44 how did the Tom Brady thing make you feel? That was so cool. Oh my God. That was like,
46:50 I was going to try to get ahead on writing stuff and I was like, nah, this is like a one half time
46:55 where I'm just going to be a fan for a second. That was so awesome. I recorded the entire thing.
46:59 I'm going to show it to my kids, all that stuff. Yeah, I was, I was, I forgot that I was like
47:06 supposed to be a professional or whatever. Really cool seeing that that relationship is
47:11 on good standings. We've known it is, but you know, it ended on kind of crappy terms. So,
47:15 you know, like hearing how passionate he is about the fan base and how much, you know,
47:20 this place means to him, it was really, really cool. I've always said this and it's weird
47:24 because like, right. The Tom Brady thing got, it was, I'm not going to say it was borderline
47:29 estranged, right. You know, like he left and it wasn't on great terms. And then when he did leave,
47:35 he acted kind of like nothing about this was a big deal anymore. And he was as happy as he's
47:41 ever been elsewhere. And he moves his life elsewhere. And then he all of a sudden starts
47:46 to, he joins another franchise as an owner and it's not here. And like, it's like, wow,
47:52 he's completely moved on. And you start to wonder like, wait, Tom, what about us? So again, if you're
47:57 a fan, all you need to see and hear is what he said today, which is where that Jersey run out
48:04 there. And the reality is he was choked up. He was legit choked up when he started speaking.
48:08 I don't think he knew whether he was going to be able to keep it together. And his voice crackled
48:13 a few times. And I've said this from the beginning of time, the, and I have this conversation when
48:19 it comes to, you know, with, with our Celtics people about, you know, the current Celtics roster,
48:24 the most beloved athletes here, aren't only the ones that win, they're the ones that love the fans
48:30 back and the whole Boston or new England experience. And they talk about what it means
48:35 to them and how it shapes them. And when they leave, they only, they, they relate to this,
48:40 you know, it doesn't matter if they play at other places. This is where they always hearken back to
48:45 the Boston date. And you've got guys of all different statures. You've got people as you
48:50 know, a hall of famers like Kevin Garnett and even small bit guys like Kevin Malar,
48:55 you know, with the red socks in 2004, but this was it. They loved it here. And that's what makes
49:01 you love them more. And for a while with Brady, you were starting to think like, I don't know if
49:06 he likes us. And so that had, that had to feel good for the fans. And that was a good moment,
49:12 even though it was a short ceremony, but it was nice to see, like, it just something wasn't right
49:17 with the universe all these years where Tom Brady was just some other guy elsewhere with no, you
49:25 know, affiliation or, or even seemingly loyalty to the, to the Patriots organization. It just felt
49:31 weird. So nice to see it kind of come full circle here for Tom and the fans and, you know, short
49:36 ceremony, but I think they dug it. And, you know, I enjoyed it too. No, great. Yeah. I could go on
49:42 and on, but yeah, that was, that was a really, really cool moment. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Very cool
49:47 for you guys hanging out this late. We won't always be doing the shows this late. We'll do
49:52 some right after the games, but this was one of those weird ones where four o'clock game,
49:57 and there was a lot to cover afterwards. And, you know, as I said, Taylor and I were at Gillette
50:02 and, you know, this poor guy is probably still going to have to bury his nose in the, you know,
50:08 in some film and do some other stuff, but you can check out. Yeah. You can check out Taylor's written
50:13 work at CLNS media. Also the Patriots daily podcast, which will, you know, you're going to
50:18 have a few times this week when we get some film breakdown of this game, what we liked, what we
50:24 didn't like. And then Taylor's going to dig into Miami is Miami, right? Yeah. Miami as well. Who's
50:31 coming to Foxborough next week. So that should be fun. Also a fun matchup. They put up some
50:37 another pair of frigging great receivers. They put up some numbers today and two will look pretty
50:42 sharp. So that'll be interesting as well. But yeah, we're going to wrap it again. Thanks guys
50:46 for hanging out. This was fun. It was a fun day. Good to have football back again. If you haven't
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51:24 that out. We will see you guys later. Thanks for hanging out. Good night. And we'll, we'll, we'll
51:30 see you. Well, we'll probably see you tomorrow. Take care.