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00:00 All right, everyone, welcome back in to another edition of the Patriots Beat podcast here
00:07 on the CLNS Media Network.
00:09 Unfortunately, it is not a live edition tonight because of some scheduling conflicts, but
00:16 the show must go on.
00:17 So it is Brian Hines, Alex Barth here to break down the Patriots Week 2 game against the
00:23 Miami Dolphins Sunday night football in Foxborough.
00:27 It's throwback week.
00:28 We pat the Patriot week, everyone.
00:31 Very important there.
00:32 But once again, some injuries are kind of, you know, dominating the headlines here because
00:39 if you thought the offensive line couldn't get any worse last week without Cole Strange
00:43 and Mike Unwinu, it is getting worse because David Andrews popped up on the injury report
00:50 this week with a hamstring injury.
00:52 He has been limited, but the two big ones are Trent Brown and Siddy So have been they
00:57 haven't practiced Wednesday or Thursday with concussions.
01:01 And that's like this day and age.
01:04 It's tough to get a concussion and be cleared by the time.
01:08 But by game time Sunday, I think the Patriots had like six or seven guys with concussions
01:12 last year.
01:14 Neither of them played the following Sunday.
01:16 So it looks like they're going to be headed into the week here without Trent Brown, without
01:20 Siddy So.
01:22 And then, you know, the three interior Michael Winu, Cole Strange still limited and Andrews
01:26 popped up there limited again this week.
01:28 Yeah, it could be rough.
01:30 And look, last week I thought, you know, we kind of talked on the show Monday.
01:33 I thought the offensive line did OK going back and looking at the game wasn't as good.
01:38 Yeah, I think what really happened was Bill O'Brien and Mac Jones did a fantastic job
01:42 working around it.
01:43 We used to talk a lot about Tom Brady being his own best pass protector.
01:46 I think that Mac Jones was his own best pass protector in this game, both in terms of getting
01:51 the ball out quickly as well as moving in the pocket.
01:56 And I just thought he handled pressure really well in this game.
01:59 He's going to need to do that again.
02:00 And Bill O'Brien is going to do that again.
02:02 And it'll be a little bit easier against the Eagles defensive front.
02:06 Still really good.
02:07 It's not Philly, but it should be a little bit easier this week.
02:09 Although then again, they're down more linemen.
02:11 So I guess scale it.
02:12 But the way I look at it, you're probably looking at let's assume that none of the outside
02:18 of Andrews, none of the guys on the injury report that can play.
02:21 The guys that didn't play last week won't play the concussion guys.
02:25 They're not going to, it's barely an assumption at this point.
02:29 So that probably leaves you with Calvin Anderson at left tackle.
02:38 Mafia left guard at David Andrews at center.
02:41 James Ferens probably gets called up as a practice squad elevation.
02:45 He's your right guard.
02:47 And then the Darien low at right tackle.
02:50 If he's not ready, you have to elevate Andrew Stuber.
02:53 And either way, it wouldn't surprise me if we see two practice linemen activated from
02:58 the practice squad this week.
03:00 So that's the worst case scenario.
03:02 Andrews, Maffi or sorry, Anderson, Mafi, Andrews, Ferens, low slash Stuber or Wheatley could
03:12 be in that mix.
03:13 I think Wheatley is more of like a six lineman tackle eligible, more of a project player
03:20 between the two of them.
03:21 If I had to go to a guy right now, unless like low hasn't picked up the playbook, I
03:24 would go low in a veterinarian low.
03:27 Now if you get strange or on when back, well, if you get them both back, obviously they
03:32 just plug in both the guard spots.
03:34 If you get one back, I think they do exercise some of that positional flexibility.
03:39 Antonio Mafi gives you, and it's just equal strangers back.
03:43 Mafia is your right guard.
03:44 If on when who's back, Maffi is your left guard.
03:45 If they're both back, obviously he's not playing, but it's, I mean, that's it.
03:50 This was the point when we were in over the summer, Brian, when we were getting called
03:55 to negative for being worried about the offensive line because, well, this isn't, it was going
04:00 to be playing.
04:01 No, that's good.
04:02 We are right.
04:03 I didn't look, I didn't think it would take two weeks, but here we are.
04:08 We are.
04:10 I mean, this is outside of a Anderson.
04:14 This is going to be the offensive line from the breeze.
04:16 It's worse because you don't have Riley reef.
04:18 Yeah, you basically have Anderson in for reef, but a city.
04:23 So, or no, he's out.
04:25 He's hurt.
04:26 Antonio Mafi, Andrew Stuber, James Farrens, Cody, Roosie, maybe these are the guys that
04:31 are going to have to play and you just hold on tight and you hope it's not too bad, but
04:38 this was the issue this summer.
04:39 It wasn't just, Oh, this group isn't good enough to start.
04:41 We knew they weren't good enough to start.
04:42 We knew they weren't going to start.
04:44 It was when the injuries start piling up, can you count on them to fill in?
04:49 And again, this is like to an extreme.
04:51 I didn't think it would be this bad this quick, but this is the NFL guys get hurt, especially
04:55 guys up front and this is where they are at this point.
04:59 So it's going to be really interesting how they put this together.
05:01 But big week for Adrian Clem once again, I mentioned bill O'Brien before, but him, Adrian
05:06 Clem, they got to cook something up this week.
05:08 Yep.
05:09 I think it was like 12, 13 screen passes last week.
05:12 So you could probably see a lot of that again, you know, to help that offensive line from
05:17 O'Brien.
05:18 I'd imagine David Andrews will play through this, right?
05:21 Like he's a tough guy.
05:22 We all know that.
05:23 So you hope he's out there.
05:24 And then if you could get one of Cole strange or Mike and when you back, probably strange
05:29 at this point seems a little bit closer that would really short things up there.
05:33 But yeah, like going from Calvin Anderson, not playing all of the summer, then playing
05:40 having to play the whole game out in week one at right tackle where like he wasn't great,
05:46 but it was one of those were like he just was better than expectations maybe after missing
05:51 all training camp.
05:52 But now you have to bump them over to left tackle and it's kind of a mess.
05:56 So I'd expect for rents to be elevated.
06:00 I was wishing you could go pull a chase and Hines, but he's on Miami's practice squad.
06:04 So you can't do that.
06:06 Maybe the savior Bill Murray, but he doesn't look like they're not making an additional
06:10 move here.
06:11 So this is they're kind of rolling with what they got at this point.
06:14 Yeah, they're not.
06:15 And I know they worked out Leo Collins earlier this week and look, there was a report they
06:19 were doing their due diligence.
06:20 I think that's what that probably is.
06:23 He's coming off a torn ACL and MCL like he's not a guy that's going to step in and help.
06:27 Absolutely not.
06:28 I mean, due diligence is only due diligence until it's forced to be more than that.
06:32 You're doing due diligence for what for this kind of situation.
06:35 So maybe they sign him could would probably be more for the future.
06:39 But yeah, for this week, this is the group.
06:41 You're not adding somebody Thursday night to start Sunday.
06:44 That's just not how the NFL works.
06:46 Yep.
06:47 And yeah, Collins, he's been on pop like all summer.
06:50 So you wouldn't expect him to even if they did sign him to to contribute this week.
06:54 But who is that?
06:56 Oh, yeah, Leo Collins.
06:58 Yeah.
06:59 So that would just be like we still need bodies here for the future.
07:03 So wait a minute and see what that is.
07:05 But yeah, that's the kind of big concern there.
07:08 And like they got to get what are you thinking about like the run game this week?
07:13 Because that was something that the Chargers were able to kind of gash Miami on on the
07:18 ground.
07:19 They ran for over 200 yards on 40 carries, three touchdowns.
07:23 Doesn't look like, you know, that Vic Fangio defense was all that settled in and their
07:28 run assignments here.
07:29 But Patriots didn't get much movement in the run game there against Philly.
07:34 And as you said, it is Philly.
07:36 They're a really good defensive line.
07:37 But do you think that run game can get some signs of life, get some improvement even with
07:42 this offensive line and in the shape that it is?
07:47 I don't know, because it was last week between between the tackles, they average one point
07:52 three or not between the cards, average one point three yards per carry.
07:56 And honestly, that's more where my concern is that with the offensive line right now,
08:00 it's not.
08:02 Can they protect Mac Jones?
08:03 Because we saw last week to an extent he and Bill O'Brien, like he can take care of himself.
08:08 It's the play everybody, you know, that they've drawn a lot of ire for among many late in
08:13 that game was the fourth and three.
08:15 Mac Jones gets pressure, takes a sack.
08:18 Instead of throwing an open Kendrick Bourne.
08:21 Let's talk about the play that set that up.
08:23 It's third and three on those HB dive or whatever.
08:26 But like they go just right up the middle with Zeke Elliott and they get nothing.
08:31 That's the concern.
08:33 Mac Jones will be OK.
08:35 They'll figure out ways to get the ball out of his hands quickly.
08:38 They'll make it work.
08:39 It's when it's third and one third and two.
08:44 You want to have that option in your back pocket to just push forward for that yardage,
08:47 move the ball to Zeke, push forward for that yardage and move on.
08:51 This offensive line right now might not afford them that ability.
08:57 And that to me is where I'm really concerned with the group.
09:00 Yeah, no, no, it's a fair, fair concern because you got to you got to stay on the field against
09:05 Miami, right?
09:06 They're going to they're going to put up some points so we can get into their offense first,
09:10 the Patriots defense in a bit here.
09:13 But as we just kind of mentioned, another Vic Fangio defense, it literally is like Fangio
09:19 this this weekend.
09:20 He's the Dolphins new offensive coordinator, which is a big difference than, you know,
09:24 the Brian Flores and Josh Boyer, who they had previously.
09:30 Right.
09:31 They those two guys, we all know Flores.
09:33 He ran a lot of man to man.
09:34 He was really high blitz rate, Josh Boyer, too.
09:37 And as we saw with Philly, that Fangio defense, it's a lot more zone.
09:42 It's not as much pass rush.
09:43 So where are you kind of looking to take advantage of that defense with Mac through the air through
09:49 the air this week?
09:52 I will.
09:53 I mean, ideally, you do some of the more intermediate stuff.
09:56 I don't know that they're going to have time to do it.
09:57 So I think they're kind of dictated in a quick hitter screen slants, things like that.
10:03 They're also maybe without a true slot receiver with the soul of Juju Smith Schuster thing,
10:08 whatever the hell that is.
10:10 So I think you're just looking at kind of quick hitting outside concepts.
10:14 And that's kind of what this offense has to be at this point.
10:16 It's a pop Douglas week.
10:18 Right.
10:19 Exactly.
10:20 Pop Douglas.
10:21 And he was really good, I thought, against Philly on Sunday.
10:26 And now it's just can they I think the one thing that was kind of missing was getting
10:31 him into space a little bit more and letting him use kind of that wiggle after the catch
10:35 because they had one play where he was lined up.
10:38 They got him on a linebacker, but like Jalen, it was it was either Jalen Carter or Jordan
10:45 Davis just like wrecked the play and it was incomplete.
10:48 But it was one of those where they would have got Pop Douglas in space and let him run after
10:51 the catch.
10:52 So hopefully against a similar style defense, they can get some of those mismatches, get
10:56 Pop Douglas in the slot, get him on a linebacker, let him win on those like option juke routes
11:01 and then feast after the catch.
11:03 But I think we're on the same page after the after the Philly game.
11:08 He's the best option in that role instead of Juju Smith Schuster right now, because
11:13 Juju, there's some reports out there.
11:16 We all knew he was dealing with that knee injury, but he just didn't look like he had
11:19 that that that juice after the catch that we kind of expected when he signed here.
11:25 Yeah, it's really interesting to see what's happening.
11:28 And you look at Jacoby go off.
11:30 I was somebody who said at the time I liked the change from Jacoby Meyers to Juju Smith
11:35 Schuster because of what Juju brought after the catch.
11:39 Now they've since added to Mario Douglas, who is great after the catch.
11:45 They've brought Chris Kendrick Bourne back in the fold, who's great after the catch in
11:50 Juju now can't run after the catch anymore.
11:53 So mis-evaluation at best, you know, it's only one week.
11:58 I'm not going to bury him for just yet, but it is going to be interesting.
12:02 We talked about tomorrow.
12:03 Douglas may be taking Taekwon's job for most of the summer.
12:05 That was sort of how that one was framed.
12:07 I think he's done that.
12:09 I think taking Juju's job is now something that's potentially on the table as well, like
12:13 you alluded to.
12:14 Maybe it's something that's already happened.
12:16 Yeah, I just the more pop Douglas you get on the field, I will I will like that even
12:21 if it comes at not benching, but maybe reducing your your big offseason prize is snap counts.
12:29 But Douglas, he just he's the most dynamic guy and he moves at kind of a different speed
12:34 than Juju and Booty.
12:37 And you know, I think we both love Kendrick Bourne.
12:39 We all know that.
12:40 But getting Douglas out there more would be the best thing, I think, for this offense.
12:44 Look, Kendrick Bourne was really good last week, too.
12:48 Base 11 Parker.
12:51 Douglas Bourne, that's your that's your base three right now.
12:54 That's a good group.
12:55 That's a good, solid group.
12:57 I'm not going to sit here and say they're amazing, but that is a well-rounded group.
13:01 You get a little bit of everything.
13:03 I think those are all guys that the quarterback trusts, which wasn't always the case last
13:08 year when they were in 11 personnel.
13:11 That's got to be the main receiver moving forward is is Parker Douglas Bourne.
13:16 Yep.
13:17 And then when you go to 12, I think you can kind of interchange the three of them, depending
13:22 on what and O'Brien's going to do that.
13:24 Now I'm not saying this talking out of my ass like I was last year.
13:26 Oh, you know, mix and match this guy and that guy like they were ever going to do that.
13:30 Now they might.
13:31 So I think you mix and match three of them.
13:33 But that should be your main three guys.
13:35 This will be the week they throw the ball to Kendrick Bourne last year, except is there
13:40 any I get all these things.
13:41 Is there anything they can do to turn this around?
13:42 Like, there's a lot of things they can do, but will they do them right?
13:46 It's it's to camp.
13:47 I remember we were on your camp last year talking about, well, you know, is it too late?
13:51 No, it's not.
13:52 But they have to recognize it's not working and it just we don't need a rehash.
13:55 Oh, yes.
13:57 So that that back to the injury report, Parker is still limited with that knee injury and
14:03 then booty.
14:05 He popped up with a hamstring injury.
14:06 So they're both limited.
14:07 Are you are you expecting to see them?
14:10 I guess this week I know we were just on Devante Parker watch in the locker and watching him
14:15 just walk to his locker and back.
14:17 But are you expecting to see either of those guys this week?
14:22 I think, well, they need at least one of them or they're probably too thin at wide receiver
14:26 unless they're going to elevate Jalen Rager.
14:27 But I don't think they have the space to do that with how many injuries they have on the
14:31 offensive line.
14:32 Right.
14:33 Although the thing about doing a prerecorded podcast, watch, we're going to get news before
14:35 this airs and we'll get news on this.
14:39 I think we see one of the two.
14:41 It looked like booty finished the game fine.
14:43 Yep.
14:44 That's maybe a manageable one.
14:45 Yeah.
14:46 Parker, I just based on his demeanor this week, he doesn't seem like a guy that's totally
14:51 certain he's going to play.
14:52 It doesn't mean it's ruled out either, but it doesn't seem totally certain he's going
14:55 to play.
14:56 Yep.
14:57 Yeah.
14:58 They need at least one of those guys or it's just, yeah, you're down to three, three there
15:02 and they might be forced to elevate a Jalen Rager type.
15:05 So at that point, I wonder if somebody goes on IR and they sign Jalen Rager, the active
15:11 roster because they're, or they signed James Farrance or they sign one of the linemen.
15:16 Cause you're going to need that elevate, right?
15:19 You're going to need more than if neither guard can play neither guard being stranger
15:27 on when it right.
15:29 You're going to need to offensive line elevations period.
15:31 Like you just are going to.
15:33 And then if you also need a receiver, yeah, I don't know why I said Rager before.
15:36 I think at that point, somebody maybe booty, it becomes like a rookie Foxborough flu situation.
15:44 Somebody goes on IR and Farren's probably gets signed to the 53 man roster and they
15:50 elevate somebody else.
15:51 Yep.
15:52 That can make sense.
15:53 But do you think we'll get more Mike is sicky this week?
15:57 Cause that was someone I think we all kind of figured might factor into a little more
16:01 of the wide receiver room, not only throughout the off season, but then when they're missing,
16:05 you know, ex body and Devante Parker.
16:08 So do you think that's a, we didn't really, you know, we saw a good amount of 12 personnel
16:12 with him and Henry, even, you know, some three tight ends with Pharaoh Brown, but it wasn't
16:17 much of Gisicky like lined up as a receiver.
16:20 Do you think that could be something that's in the cards if the, if they are down some
16:23 bodies there too?
16:25 Maybe I think against Miami, it's a tough matchup because Javon Hargrave is kind of
16:28 just an X factor to counter that, but longterm, it's not a bad thought.
16:33 I just think you don't get the way the dolphins defense is structured.
16:36 I'm not sure you get the advantage of Mike gets to keep playing receiver to the extent
16:40 you'd get it another week.
16:41 Now they have to do it.
16:42 They have to do it, but I don't think it's something they're going to like force themselves
16:46 into this week.
16:47 Yeah.
16:48 And then Ty Montgomery, we'll see what he does.
16:52 I mean, he's not an X, right?
16:53 But right.
16:54 That, that, that's the bigger issue.
16:56 Cause on the, on the depth chart, Parker's X one, he's out Thornton's X two, obviously
17:01 he's out.
17:02 That's really it.
17:03 Like booty kind of was playing out of position last week as the X and now he's out in like
17:07 there's Juju would probably be the next guy.
17:10 He can't play apparently.
17:12 So born could maybe do it, but he's so good in that zero.
17:16 I don't move him.
17:17 And then yeah, do you go into get sick?
17:19 He, do you go to Jalen Rager?
17:21 They're, they're just way down on that depth chart right now.
17:25 Yeah.
17:26 That was a sneaky position of depth.
17:30 I think we all highlighted in the, in the training camp and throughout the preseason,
17:35 right?
17:36 Like they had five hits in here and we were like, Oh, well there's that body type just
17:39 on the practice squad to keep around, but they, they released him off the practice squad.
17:43 So yeah, between that position and the offensive line, it's kind of getting down to the worst
17:49 case scenario there pretty early, pretty early from them.
17:52 So any other kind of offensive thoughts?
17:56 I know that was like most of the injury stuff, but any other game plan stuff or max stuff
18:02 that you're looking forward to or expecting this, this Sunday night?
18:06 I just, I, he's gotta be able to handle pressure again.
18:09 Mack Jones, that's the biggest thing.
18:10 Can he handle the pressure as well as he did last week?
18:12 If he can do that, they're gonna have a chance.
18:15 Yeah.
18:16 Which I mean, he was, I thought he was really good under pressure last week, which was a
18:19 great sign.
18:20 Cause that was the big question entering the season.
18:23 Cause he was very bad against it last year.
18:25 So hopefully he can, he can keep that up because they'll need that, but that's it from the
18:31 offense.
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19:27 So before we get into Hill and Waddell and all their excellent speed, explosive playmakers,
19:34 I wanted to hear your thoughts on Tua last week because I thought that was one of his
19:39 best, maybe his best NFL game he's played.
19:43 He looked better out of structure.
19:46 It looked like he maybe had a little more zip on the football than years past.
19:50 And he kind of shredded the Chargers like 466 and three scores, I think it was.
19:57 He said what you want about the Chargers defense, but they gave him some fits last year in that
20:03 matchup.
20:04 So it was interesting to see him kind of shred them right out of the gate here.
20:06 But I thought that was an awesome, awesome game from Tua last week.
20:12 I thought it was too.
20:13 I've said this about Tua for a long time.
20:14 I don't, if you don't watch college football, like obviously people who don't watch college
20:19 football, it's tough to understand.
20:21 You know, you pick up guys as they're coming into the NFL.
20:25 If you don't watch college football, you really don't understand why Tua was drafted where
20:30 he was.
20:31 That's probably one of the most puzzling decisions.
20:32 Uh, everybody talks about his lack of arm strength in that, uh, he had one of the strongest
20:38 arms in the country at Alabama.
20:40 And then he had a very severe hip injury his last year there to the point where he essentially
20:46 had to relearn how to throw a football.
20:48 He had to kind of scrap his mechanics and rebuild them.
20:51 And I think he's spent the last two, three years doing that.
20:55 He looked, that was as not in terms of like scheme or anything, but just physically that
21:01 was as comfortable as he's looked throwing a football to me in a long time.
21:05 And I think he, I wondered if he'd ever get there and there was a lot done on like his
21:10 rehab from the injury and stuff.
21:11 This isn't just me like giving a hot take.
21:15 It seems like he's gotten there to the point where he's throwing the ball again, like he
21:18 did at Alabama.
21:19 And that is, you know, it's exciting to see, cause he was, it was him and burrow for the
21:24 first overall pick until he got hurt.
21:26 It was tank for Tua all year.
21:28 Right.
21:29 It's not even like burrow past him like that dramatically to be the first overall pick
21:33 was he got hurt.
21:34 And then it was this thing of, well, where are you at with his hip injury?
21:37 And the dolphins were willing to take the risk.
21:39 Clearly they believed in them.
21:40 So there is an element to that.
21:42 Now I do still think he has his limitations.
21:44 But I, his arm just looks so much better than it has.
21:49 And you're not seeing the guy that you saw when he first came out that was struggling
21:53 to hit the deep ball.
21:54 He's doing that.
21:55 The shorter passes, he has more zip on them.
21:57 He's getting more on the behind them.
21:59 They're getting there quicker.
22:00 I, yeah, I was impressed with what I saw from him this week.
22:03 Yeah.
22:04 He had that one, I think it was going around Twitter.
22:07 Someone might've had it where like he comes off his first read, steps up in the pocket
22:11 and then throws like a beautiful deep ball down the, down the right sideline for Tyree
22:15 kill.
22:16 So he was really awesome.
22:18 He looked, he looked the best he's been.
22:19 He's looked in the NFL, so they're going to have their hands full.
22:23 And of course it all starts with.
22:25 And I'll just say like, he always had that processing power.
22:27 It was just the last few years.
22:28 I think he knew there were certain throws he couldn't make.
22:31 Yeah.
22:32 And he just, it limited him.
22:34 And I think he's now feeling once again that he can make all these throws.
22:37 Nope.
22:38 Which is a scary sight.
22:39 Yeah.
22:40 It all, it all starts with that in that Miami offense with Tyree kill and Jalen Waddle and
22:46 how they all that Mike McDaniel motion.
22:49 They love their motion.
22:51 They had the, they, their offense ran at the second most in the NFL last week behind only
22:56 Kyle Shanahan's 49ers who Mike McDaniel comes from.
23:00 And they kind of changed the looks of it from last year.
23:03 They, they used to do that like fly or jet motion where Tyree kill would run all the
23:08 way across the formation, get them a running start as John Jones pointed out, excuse me,
23:14 this week, just kind of like Canadian football league, right?
23:16 Like you get that running start and then it's, if you give Tyree kill a running start, it's
23:21 almost impossible to defend.
23:23 So they changed it a little bit this year where he's almost lined up in like a tight
23:27 end role.
23:29 And then he just shoots out like a little short motion.
23:32 And at the snap it's presented like it looks the same, but it just, it gives the defense
23:37 a little less time to prepare for it.
23:39 And it worked really well against the chargers on set.
23:42 They used it seven times and they averaged 16.7 yards per play.
23:46 And it was, they were running to running it to the fullback, Alec Ingle.
23:50 It wasn't even just Hill and Waddle's speed doing it.
23:53 So that, that motion package is a big issue.
23:57 And I know when people say, how are you going to slow down Tyree kill?
24:00 They just say, Oh, let's double them.
24:02 Right?
24:03 Like John Jones got them and put a safety over top.
24:05 They haven't the Patriots, meaning they haven't really done that since the 2018 AFC championship
24:11 game in Kansas city.
24:13 So I think it's going to be the last, last year was a lot of zone.
24:17 I think there are like 75, 80% of Miami's dropbacks and zone trying just to limit the
24:22 big plays.
24:23 So are you expecting a little bit more of that approach or we going back to maybe the
24:28 double, but that leaves Jalen Waddle kind of on a, on an Island, but you have Christian
24:32 Gonzalez now, what are you kind of thinking there?
24:35 Well, it all hinges on Jonathan Jones.
24:37 Who's also on the injury report today was it was ankle, right?
24:40 Yep.
24:41 Limited with an ankle injury.
24:42 If he plays, I think you're putting him on Hill with safety shade over the top and you're
24:48 trusting Christian Gonzalez on Jalen Waddle.
24:51 I mean, this is why you drafted the guy as a, I don't know that he's as fast as Waddle,
24:55 but I think he's fast enough with his length and his recovery ability that that's a covered
24:59 assignment he can have.
25:00 And maybe you mix in Marcus Jones for the pure speed in certain situations.
25:05 I don't know.
25:06 This is a game Christian Gonzalez needs to play wire to wire.
25:08 I think most weeks he does.
25:09 This isn't one.
25:10 If Jonathan Jones isn't out there, I don't know, man.
25:13 I think it's probably a bracket with Marcus Jones and safety, safety, or maybe Jalen Mills,
25:24 maybe miles Bryant.
25:25 Like you're, and then you're probably going Christian Gonzalez full-time on Waddle.
25:29 You're probably doing the thing where it's your one on there too.
25:33 And then you're two on there one with help.
25:34 And this has to be a ton of help.
25:37 Yeah.
25:38 If they lose Jonathan, the whole thing, the reason they've been, when I say competitive
25:43 against the dolphins, people will roll their eyes and say, Bill's never beaten two of in
25:47 those four games.
25:48 And by the way, the two, two hasn't played.
25:50 They've won.
25:51 But in those four games, I just want to pull the number up right here.
25:53 Cause I had it in my mailbag this week and it'll be, it'll be in my game breakdown tomorrow
25:58 in the four games to his beat the Patriots, the offense point totals are 22, 17, 33 and
26:09 20.
26:10 And before you say, Oh, well now they have Tyree kill.
26:13 That 20 was with Tyree kill last year in the opener, which by the way, seven of those points
26:18 came off a scoop and score fumble recovery by the defense.
26:22 So really 13 points.
26:25 The issue against Miami and two it's, it's kind of a red Herring.
26:29 It's not that two, it's not that bill can't be two.
26:31 It's that his offense hasn't been good enough to outscore him.
26:34 And I mean, at least three of those 33, you're going to win more often than not when you
26:37 score 33, but 22, 17, 20 should all be when your defense posts that should be winning
26:41 scores.
26:42 Yep.
26:43 So the key to that has been Jonathan Jones.
26:48 If you don't have him, it changes everything.
26:50 Then I think you really start to worry about it.
26:52 Yeah.
26:53 I think that's going to be where the trouble is.
26:55 But I mean that, that last game last year, it wasn't too, but I mean, I remember how
27:00 beat up their, their cornerback room was.
27:02 It was like running quandary, Mosley and Tay Hayes out there, Tay Hayes out there.
27:07 And they still had a decent performance, but yeah, you need John Jones.
27:12 Christian Gonzalez will be a big part of this, obviously with, with his athletic profile,
27:17 you assume Marcus Jones with his speed, we'll get out there.
27:20 But I still think it's, Jabril Pepper said today, like make them beat you methodically.
27:26 And that kind of said to me, like, we're going to kind of sit back in this zone more on early
27:30 downs limit things, you know, let them get the underneath gains.
27:34 And then maybe on third down, more of these money downs, we'll go to a man to man.
27:38 Look, take away the middle of the field because Tua loves the middle of the field.
27:42 They love sending Hill and Waddle on these, these crossers, these like eight yard posts.
27:47 I mean, that was like their money route against the chargers, just that little, that little
27:50 post route.
27:51 So I think that would, that would kind of be my approach, but you need, you still need
27:57 John Jones out there.
27:58 It's going to get a little murky.
28:00 Yeah, he, I, I just, he changes everything.
28:03 I think it, him not being out there cause they have a plan.
28:07 Like they've played Miami enough that they have a plan.
28:08 They know what works.
28:09 The whole plan is relying on Jonathan Jones being on the field.
28:13 Yep.
28:14 And my other big thing was if you're playing that zone and letting them catch underneath,
28:19 you ought to tackle well, right?
28:21 Like you saw Waddle the week one last year, like you have a good half of football.
28:26 Then he just catch a little slant and he takes it to the house cause he missed a few tackles.
28:29 So I know it's easier, easier said than done if we want to bring in last week's motto to
28:35 this week, but you gotta tackle those guys, limit the yak cause they were second in all
28:40 football and yak last week.
28:42 Do you know who was first though?
28:44 Uh, the Patriots, right?
28:46 New England Patriots, the juju effect.
28:48 But, uh, yeah, you gotta, you gotta tackle those guys and limit the yak to the best of
28:53 your abilities.
28:54 I'll say, I thought they did a good job of that last week.
28:56 Christian Gonzalez, Jonathan Jones, even miles Bryant contributing.
29:00 I thought they did a good job of stepping up and making a tackle after the catch last
29:03 week.
29:04 So it, Eagles aren't for different reasons.
29:06 Eagles aren't an easy team to do that against either.
29:07 And they did a good job.
29:08 Yeah.
29:09 I don't think they missed a tackle last week.
29:12 I was trying to pull that up quick or at least like the secondary.
29:16 Yeah.
29:17 I don't think they did either.
29:19 Yeah.
29:20 So if they could get a repeat performance there, uh, that would be good.
29:23 And, uh, another thing Jonathan Jones mentioned with, with Hill was kind of hitting them at
29:29 the line of scrimmage, being a little physical.
29:31 You saw the Chargers do that again too.
29:33 So just another thing to kind of throw at them.
29:36 Maybe that, that coverage they use against digs where you just kind of have Jabril peppers
29:40 at the line of scrimmage, just hit them and then, and then fall off into a zone, maybe
29:45 see some of that, but yeah, it all starts with Hill.
29:49 Waddle obviously is a big part of that.
29:50 If you can slow those, slow those guys down, which new England has done a strong job of,
29:55 uh, it's going to be going to be tough for two.
29:59 Yeah, absolutely.
30:01 On the jamming at the line though.
30:02 I think that's another thing where you probably lose that if you don't have John Jones, because
30:07 you jam at the line and he wins.
30:08 Yeah, that's a touchdown.
30:09 Yeah, that's a touchdown.
30:11 So yeah, but, uh, what are you thinking?
30:16 What about Miami's run game?
30:18 Is there anything I know Raheem mostard was back at practice today, full participant after
30:24 missing yesterday.
30:26 Um, Jeff Wilson is on IR so you don't have to worry about him.
30:30 Devin a chain, their, their rookies kind of a interesting speedster, but like, is this
30:35 just, if they want to run the ball, let them run the ball and keep the, keep it out of
30:40 Tyreek Hill's hands.
30:41 Oh, absolutely.
30:42 Absolutely.
30:43 The more they're running the ball, the better, and you can't give up big runs, but I actually
30:47 thought the Patriots defensive front was pretty good last week in terms of stopping the run.
30:50 Christian Barmore had a surprisingly good game against the run.
30:53 Keon white Dietrich wise, obviously Juwan Bentley put some faith in those guys.
30:58 Take the ball at it, Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill's hands.
31:02 I think that's a no brainer.
31:03 Now you have to keep it close.
31:04 The offense has to do its part in order to enable that, but I think you give them the
31:08 run all day because they're less likely to break a big play with the run than with the
31:12 past.
31:13 Yep.
31:14 Just will Mike McDaniel take it?
31:16 Well, if he does it and you're dropping everybody back into coverage, that's a Josh Allen effect.
31:22 If he's just going to get impatient and force the force to throw down the field into a defense
31:25 is predicated on coverage, you're going to be able to force turnovers.
31:28 You want him.
31:30 If you're giving them the run, you want them to throw.
31:33 Yeah.
31:34 If that makes sense.
31:35 Definitely.
31:36 That'll be interesting because Mike McDaniel is one of these new new age nerds if you want
31:42 to call it, but he loves it.
31:44 Yeah.
31:45 Banner day for the nerds today.
31:46 We'll get to that banner day for the new age.
31:48 Definitely definitely keep banking on those guys.
31:50 It keeps going right for for all of them.
31:52 We'll get to that.
31:54 But yeah, if they want to run, I'll give him the run all day.
31:57 I feel confident in that game plan.
32:00 And then the pass rush.
32:01 We'll see Toronto Armstead.
32:02 He didn't play last week.
32:04 He's been limited.
32:06 He's on here with a back ankle and knee injury, so he's pretty banged up.
32:10 But he shed his red noncontact jersey in Miami's practice today.
32:16 That's a big one because their backup backup tackle, I believe it was he gave up like five
32:21 pressures last week and two was really good under pressure, kind of like Mac.
32:26 But the more pressure you can get on him and him, the better.
32:29 And if you have Jude on and Uche and Keone White feasting against a backup backup tackle,
32:35 that's just probably going to end up end up good, good, positive things for New England.
32:40 Yeah.
32:41 And they're going to have a chance to pressure backup tackle.
32:43 I say when it guard like they're going to have their chance.
32:45 Isaiah, when that's another interesting little storyline, old friend Isaiah, when at left
32:51 guard, which some people might say is his best natural position, but we'll see how it
32:56 looks against Christian Barmore and maybe Keone White kicks inside a little bit more
33:01 for some rushes there.
33:02 But you think we'll think we'll see more more key on white because it was only I think it
33:08 was 13 pass rush snaps he finished with.
33:11 He was on the field a little bit more than that.
33:13 But I mean, he was taking it to Lane Johnson, which I just I don't know how you look at
33:19 the film last week and don't put him on the field.
33:22 And I'm not saying he's like a 90 percent usage rate guy, but his play time should keep
33:26 increasing throughout the year if he keeps playing like this.
33:28 Yeah.
33:29 What about Mopu?
33:30 Because he was only like 10, 10 snaps total.
33:33 Is this a game that might be a little more Marte Mopu heavy?
33:39 It is.
33:40 But last week should have been two in terms of needing to spy the quarterback.
33:42 So I they might be taking it slow with him.
33:45 He's coming off that injury and all that, the jumping levels.
33:47 But I wouldn't mind if he played more this week.
33:49 You got to get speed on the field, period, whether you're trying to stop to run, whether
33:52 you're trying to stop the pass, you need to get speed on the field.
33:55 He's their fastest linebacker.
33:57 He should be.
33:58 Yeah, he could help if you're playing a lot of zone at that second level.
34:00 So that would be all the rookies.
34:03 Just get them all in there on the defensive side of the ball.
34:05 And I believe good things will happen.
34:08 But any other things, any other things you got there from that that Miami offense that
34:14 you're looking for, the Patriots defense that you have excited or marked for that for this
34:20 one?
34:21 Do you know who Dolphins who ran the most routes with Dolphins last week of any of their
34:24 offensive players?
34:26 Braxton Barrios, Durham, Smythe, tight end, 100 percent usage rate.
34:31 He didn't come off the field.
34:32 Tyree kill is it like 60 Durham Smythe played 100 percent of snaps.
34:36 We saw even average tight ends hurt the Patriots at times last year.
34:39 They did a much better job on Dallas Goddard this week.
34:43 I don't think Smythe is as good of a player, but like this is another spot where tight
34:47 ends going to be a sneaky impact player.
34:49 You got to take them away.
34:50 So let's see.
34:51 I think they should be able to.
34:52 But like, let's it's just if Durham Smythe starts kind of getting annoying, it wouldn't
34:57 be the most surprising thing in the world to me.
35:00 Yeah, especially if all the focus is on, you know, Hill and why just one of those where
35:05 he ends up with like seven catches for, you know, 60, 70 yards there.
35:10 And good old friend Braxton Barrios has a little role in that offense to kind of their
35:15 number three receiver.
35:16 So another tons of tons of Patriots, former Patriots, former Dolphins on both sides.
35:23 Big, big connection game there.
35:24 But if that's all for the preview, we can get in.
35:30 Let's hear it.
35:31 Do you have a prediction?
35:33 Is this I don't want to say must win in week two, especially now with Zach Wilson on deck.
35:39 And we can talk about that, too, in a second.
35:41 But it's kind of kind of a big game in this division because you don't want to start.
35:46 Oh, and to I know, right, like historically, the numbers aren't great making playoffs if
35:52 you're oh and two.
35:53 So is this a must win?
35:54 Is it just a really important win?
35:56 And then what's what do you think's going to happen?
35:59 Yeah.
36:00 So I know people hate the oh and two thing.
36:03 And that's like it's like the most negative take.
36:05 Like, oh, you're just writing them off after two games.
36:07 All right, since twenty eighteen, only one team has started.
36:10 Oh, and two and made the playoffs.
36:11 And that's last year's Bengals.
36:12 And they can afford that margin for error with their talent.
36:15 The other teams that started without a win in their first two games averaged five and
36:19 a half wins for the season.
36:22 That's not enough to get you in the playoffs in any division unless you have like a six
36:27 game schedule.
36:29 So yeah, they kind of do need a win this week.
36:32 I think so.
36:33 And beyond the division, Miami, this is another wildcard team, probably.
36:37 So this could be an important head to head game when we get into January.
36:41 And are they going to need this and that in a tiebreaker scenario?
36:44 I do think they need to win this week.
36:47 I came into the week ready to give it to them.
36:51 I came into the weeks like I coming off that Eagles game.
36:53 I felt good.
36:54 The Dolphins aren't as good of a team.
36:55 I think you get the primetime game.
36:57 You get Mac with the full week under O'Brien in the system and all that.
37:02 And then you lose your starting left tackle, your backup right guard.
37:05 You might be down both starting guards.
37:07 Now your Tyreek Hill coverage guy is banged up.
37:11 Tough spot.
37:15 I want to give it to him, but there's just there.
37:18 There's a lot of injuries.
37:20 There's a lot of injuries they're going to be dealing with in this game.
37:22 And that scares me.
37:23 Yep.
37:24 Yeah.
37:25 I mean, I was with you.
37:26 I think I entered the week thinking like twenty seven, twenty three Patriots.
37:32 But now it's like it's all these injuries going to cost you like a seven point swain
37:37 and it's going to end like twenty three, twenty.
37:39 So probably another close competitive game.
37:43 Hopefully it's not the same script where they're down to three scores early and they just have
37:49 to claw themselves back in.
37:50 I don't know if I could take another one of those games, but yeah, I'd expect it to be
37:55 be competitive kind of throughout.
37:58 And then it's just we'll see how the injury, how the offensive line looks when they take
38:03 the field.
38:04 If Jonathan Jones is out there on Sunday night, that that's probably going to be the one thing
38:09 that that or the two things that will swing the outcome.
38:12 Yeah, that's that's going to we'll have to see when this is a tough one to predict.
38:16 I'm right down to the wire with the injuries.
38:19 But do you have any kind of building off what we just talked about with Zach Wilson next
38:25 week?
38:26 I mean, you haven't been on here since Aaron Rodgers blew out his Achilles for plays into
38:31 his New York Jets tenure.
38:33 And then they won the game against your favorite quarterback, Josh Allen, in the Buffalo Bills.
38:38 But any any thoughts on there?
38:40 Just because we haven't we haven't touched about that.
38:42 Was that I mean, that could knock out a potential wildcard team in the Jets that the Patriots
38:47 could leapfrog here, maybe get them an extra win if you were expecting them to split the
38:51 series.
38:52 Now they might sweep Zach Wilson.
38:54 But then I'm sure you have some bills takes you might want to fire off.
38:58 So just any thoughts on that whole that whole situation the other night?
39:01 Yeah, I mean, I think you nailed it with the with the Jets stuff in terms of the bills.
39:05 I mean, I've been trying to tell you guys it wasn't sustainable.
39:08 It wasn't sustainable and you're seeing it now.
39:10 And it wasn't even the turnovers.
39:12 They go.
39:13 It was like early in that game.
39:14 They were it was tied.
39:15 They might have been up.
39:16 And like Mitchell Morris is trying to start fights.
39:21 And you see just Josh Allen's body language was horrible even before he started with all
39:25 the terms like, what are you doing?
39:27 McDermott mismanaged the game at times.
39:31 They're just not a well-run team.
39:32 They've kind of coasted by on Stefan Diggs being a top three receiver in football, which
39:37 I mean, he looked good again, but he's 30.
39:39 And who knows where his foes at this point?
39:42 And then Josh Allen occasionally pulling a play out of his ass.
39:45 I'm not even gonna say Josh Allen being great.
39:46 I'm just gonna say the the the chickens have come home to roost on some of the ridiculous
39:53 stuff Josh Allen's done.
39:54 We said, hey, that's incredible.
39:55 I can't believe you even tried that.
39:56 And it worked.
39:57 Well, he's trying it now.
39:58 It's not working.
39:59 He's regressing to the meat.
40:00 So they should still win the division.
40:02 They should still win 10 games.
40:03 But their window, their championship window, I said it before the season is shut.
40:07 It is closed and it's only going to get worse from here.
40:10 Well, I mean, Josh Allen was that was some game.
40:15 It's like the obvious stuff where he's like hurtling someone 10 yards away from the first
40:20 down or then the one time he's got no one in front of him to run for the first down.
40:24 He fires like the deep interception.
40:27 Like he made some really questionable decisions.
40:30 He's never played with any awareness.
40:32 This isn't new.
40:33 It just kind of worked off his physical talents.
40:37 It's the mash all the buttons approach.
40:39 Right.
40:40 And usually you like guys can win a game or two like that.
40:43 It usually doesn't last two years.
40:46 I know what I see.
40:47 And I stuck with this the whole time.
40:50 It was not sustainable.
40:51 It was never sustainable.
40:53 You're not a 50 percent completion rate guy for life going back to high school that suddenly
40:58 complete 70 percent of his passes that that rate of improvement just doesn't happen.
41:04 And the other thing is like we started talking about Brian Dayball as being some sort of
41:08 quarterback genius because I know the Giants didn't have a great start.
41:11 We'll see what happens with them this year.
41:12 Like he fixed Josh Allen left Josh Allen broke and then he got Daniel Jones.
41:16 What is one hundred sixty million dollars off of one year.
41:20 So yeah.
41:22 Who was the Bama quarterback when Dayball was there.
41:25 That's a good question.
41:27 Was it to him.
41:28 I was going to have minded because that was did he leave and then Sark came in when Matt
41:32 took over.
41:33 Well he was never I don't think he's ever the OC.
41:35 Oh he was the OC.
41:37 Twenty seventeen.
41:38 Hurts.
41:39 That would have been I think hurt.
41:41 Was that the year to it took over for hurts.
41:46 Yeah that was the year it was hurts and then two it took over in the national championship.
41:52 Interesting.
41:53 So yeah quarterback whisperer Brian Dayball.
41:57 Yeah he does it.
41:59 All right.
42:00 Let's jump over to talking about.
42:03 Yeah.
42:04 We don't have the background because we're pre recording.
42:06 Talking about the sports nerds.
42:07 We'll get into a Boston sports minute because the Red Sox fired high and bloom today.
42:14 And I don't know.
42:16 I was surprised.
42:18 I thought I was too.
42:20 I think the rumor I don't know if it was a rumor or a report that his contract ran through
42:25 next year.
42:26 I don't know if that was confirmed.
42:27 I think Cora's definitely does.
42:30 But I thought they this like this was kind of his offseason where he's got his farm system
42:37 he's going to have his money now and it was kind of like a go prove it whether it's you're
42:42 you're making some trades you're signing some pitching and free agency.
42:46 And I thought like that was going to be his last you know who were out here to kind of
42:50 save his job and put together a competitive team.
42:52 But they cut the cord they weren't trying to have it and I don't know I know a lot of
42:58 people don't like them and their team hasn't been competitive besides that one flukey 2021
43:05 stretch.
43:06 But I think he kind of came in and he did what ownership wanted him to do.
43:11 And I know they would never say they were rebuilding but I think they kind of were rebuilding
43:16 these last four or five years and he obviously had his flaws like he didn't handle a lot
43:21 of the trade deadlines very well but he rebuilt that farm system to probably a top five farm
43:28 in baseball.
43:29 He paid Rafael Devers.
43:31 He got that done.
43:32 I think he did a lot of the things they brought him in to do and then he's just kind of like
43:37 the sacrificial lamb here and now they're ready to spend and they're going to bring
43:41 in someone who has a little more of a background of spending and going after these big big guys.
43:47 I would hope so.
43:48 I don't know.
43:49 I think John Henry might have realized he can use Fenway as his own checking account
43:53 or use the Red Sox his own checking account because people go to Fenway.
43:55 He might just want to run this thing on a budget.
43:59 You know to quote Mike Felger if you're going to have a nerd you better have the best nerd.
44:03 Heimblum was not the best nerd.
44:05 He wasn't.
44:06 He made some bad trades.
44:08 I think it's going to come out and there's a story out there right now from WEI about
44:12 a trade he didn't make involving Chris Sale.
44:15 I think it's going to come out the trades he didn't make were even worse.
44:19 You know not dealing James Paxson at the deadline not dealing Justin Turner at the deadline.
44:24 He wasn't good.
44:26 He wasn't good at his job and he needed to go.
44:28 That being said do I feel better about the Red Sox today.
44:32 Not much because again I'm still not convinced.
44:35 I think this is an ownership problem.
44:36 I think the rock is from the core.
44:39 I think ownership wants to run this thing on a budget.
44:41 They knew what they were getting into when they hired Heimblum.
44:44 We know that they were looking for who was the guy Ben Friedman or whoever who just got
44:49 hired.
44:50 Oh Stern David Stern David Stern or Ben Friedman's another one of these nerds.
44:55 They're trying to bring it.
44:56 They were talking to another nerd.
44:58 This is what they want to do.
44:59 They don't want to spend money because they know the tourists will go and pay 18 dollars
45:02 for Miller Lite sit out center field.
45:06 If you're going to have a nerd you better have the best nerd and if the Red Sox are
45:10 going to have a nerd I certainly hope they get the best one.
45:13 But why why does it have to be a nerd.
45:15 And by the way don't overcorrect either.
45:18 I don't need to do Dave Dombrowski again where we're going to trade all the prospects and
45:22 give out a bunch of ridiculous big contracts to players who will never live up to them
45:25 just to get them.
45:26 I don't need to do that thing either.
45:29 There's a way to balance it.
45:31 You look at the Los Angeles Dodgers.
45:34 There's a way to balance it.
45:37 You can sign the big money deals.
45:40 It makes some trades but also keep some prospects and develop them and develop some real homegrown
45:45 talent.
45:46 They haven't done that since Theo Epstein wouldn't trade it.
45:50 Not if I Cherington would trade any of his prospects.
45:54 He sold the farm for one year and then high and bloom came in and didn't do a damn thing
45:59 didn't spend a damn dollar didn't make a damn trade except except the ones he needed to
46:04 when it became spend a dollar or make a trade and then he made the trade and they were bad
46:08 trades operate like a big market baseball team.
46:12 They should be I don't know if they'll land them.
46:15 They should be competitive for Shohei Ohtani this summer.
46:17 They should frankly be competitive for every big name free agent that's available this
46:21 summer.
46:22 They want to get the real Red Sox back.
46:23 Forget the pink hats.
46:24 F them.
46:25 You want to get me back and I'm not saying as a fan I'll always be a Red Sox fan but
46:29 you want to get me investing in the team.
46:30 You want me to stop doing this rant every month about how the team's poorly run from
46:34 the core.
46:36 Go give me some real baseball players.
46:38 Go give me some guys I've actually heard of not a guy that wasn't good enough for the
46:42 Oakland A's who aren't going to win 50 games.
46:45 It becomes your starting shortstop.
46:47 But also you know I've got to know the prospects because you sold me this year was on the prospects.
46:51 I'm not saying you have to keep all of them but Tristan Casas, Bride Bayo, Sidon Rafaela,
47:00 Jaron Duran plug the pieces in.
47:04 Add real major league players around them not for a players get an actual freaking shortstop
47:10 and we're cooking and they should be able to do that in a year because they're the Boston
47:15 Red Sox.
47:16 They're not the Tampa Bay Rays.
47:17 They're not the Oakland A's.
47:18 They're not the Kansas City Royals.
47:20 But ownership has to be willing to do it.
47:21 That's step one.
47:23 Then you go out you find a GM who can execute it.
47:26 But you got to have step one first which is because ownership sets the budget.
47:30 I don't want to hear about how high and bloom was cheap.
47:32 I don't know that he would have spent more if he was given the opportunity.
47:35 But the reality is you hire that guy so you're not you don't have an explosive budget.
47:41 That's just the reality of it.
47:42 Whether ownership set exact dollar amount or not they went out and got a guy that's
47:46 going to spend on the margins.
47:48 The guy I want Brian is Alex Cora.
47:53 I look at the success the Celtics had.
47:56 That thing works.
47:58 Getting a guy who understands it at a game level at a pitch by pitch level in basketball
48:03 in a possession by possession level I think works.
48:06 Cora's talked about wanting to be a GM.
48:08 I think another big part of the problem with bloom the players didn't respect him and he
48:12 didn't respect the players.
48:14 And I think that was an issue when it came to free agency.
48:17 We know the core is going to see eye to eye with the players.
48:21 And I don't know what you do about manager Jason Veritek, Carlos Beltran, whoever.
48:25 Dustin Petroia, maybe I don't know, but no, I'm kidding on that last one.
48:29 But Cora will square some of the math stuff that because ownership wants to be cutting
48:36 edge, whatever the hell that means.
48:39 Having bad pitchers apparently is cutting edge.
48:42 Cora will square some of that math stuff that ownership wants to do because we know he's
48:47 into that with something that I can't believe hasn't been a qualification for this job for
48:52 the last four years, but is now actual baseball knowledge, actual understanding of the game
48:59 on a pitch by pitch, inning by inning, day by day basis in not just letting Microsoft
49:04 Excel make his decisions.
49:07 That should be.
49:08 Well, Theo Epstein is my wishlist, but he's not, that's not happening.
49:12 Alex Cora should be the guy.
49:14 Yeah, Alex Cora should 1,000,000% be the guy and they didn't rule it out today.
49:21 That should be the guy that leads you for digs out of this hole.
49:24 Yeah, I think that would be an awesome transition, just like the Celtics.
49:29 And I know he said yesterday, like he was excited to come back and manage this team.
49:33 But that was obviously before they fired high and bloom.
49:36 So maybe something happens there.
49:38 But yeah, I think bloom, like you mentioned Oakland.
49:42 Like I think that's a place that he would really thrive, right?
49:45 Where it's like you have that low budget, not a lot of expectations, and he can just
49:51 kind of do his high and bloom method.
49:53 But this is Boston and you need to go out there and spend the big bucks to get the big
49:58 players from time to time.
50:00 And hopefully now that they do do that and they need pitching.
50:04 I love that Yamamoto guy from Japan.
50:07 He seems like he would be an awesome kind of slam dunk fit there at the top of the rotation.
50:13 Then go out and get another guy too, because you're not relying on Chris Sale or James
50:17 Paxson or any of these guys.
50:18 But if you can start the year with Yamamoto and number two and Brian Bellow, I think that's
50:23 a good kind of place to start.
50:25 But yeah, we'll kind of see who it is.
50:29 But they need someone who's ready to kind of go spend money.
50:32 And hopefully they don't like Dombrowski this and trade away all the farm system that
50:37 high and bloom just built up, because it is really talented.
50:40 And I think there's a lot of really good ballplayers there.
50:44 Beyond the guys we've seen this year in Boston, like the Marcello Myers, the Roman Anthony's,
50:49 those type of guys.
50:50 But yeah, I think they're in a pretty good position as an organization with talent.
50:57 It's just go put those finishing pieces on top and spend the money to get them and act
51:03 like the Boston Red Sox.
51:04 Yeah, that's what it comes down to.
51:07 Act like the Boston Red Sox, act like a baseball team that can have a 250 million dollar payroll.
51:13 And let me call it because people say, oh, they had that of like actual healthy players
51:17 who are ready to play, not Chris Sale.
51:19 That's one of the like, I think them spending to the tax a lot of these last few years kind
51:25 of confused some people because it was like it was it looked like they were spending a
51:31 lot, but it wasn't like all these guys were on the aisle.
51:34 And I don't know, I thought it was kind of a long rebuild there, but that's what you
51:38 kind of brought Blumen to do.
51:40 And now he's gone.
51:41 So we'll see what we'll see where they're they transition to transition to next should
51:47 be an interesting offseason for them.
51:49 But I think that'll do it from the Boston Sports Minute.
51:53 And unless you have any last other Patriots thoughts that came across your mind during
51:57 that rant.
51:58 No, it's pretty.
51:59 It's pretty much it.
52:00 All right.
52:01 I think we can move on here and count down the hours till Sunday night when Miami Dolphins
52:09 are in Foxborough.
52:11 Take on the New England Patriots.
52:13 Me and Alex will be back Monday, Monday or Tuesday, most likely Monday to break that
52:18 game down.
52:20 So subscribe to the Patriots Press Pass on YouTube to know when we go live.
52:24 But until then, you can follow Alex on Twitter at Real Alex Barth.
52:27 Go read all his game work over at 985thesportshub.com.
52:32 You can follow me on Twitter at I am Brian Hines and go read all my week two coverage
52:36 over at Pat's Pulpit dot com.
52:38 Thank you all for watching and we will see you guys next week.
52:42 Bye.
52:42 Bye.
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