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00:00:00 I was just reading some of the comments before we'd come on the air tonight and like ugly trying not to doom and gloom it
00:00:06 But I'm gonna throw this one up right to start and this is where we're gonna start not to but this is where we went
00:00:11 from 82 and 0 to this
00:00:13 Read it read it. I think Boston is done
00:00:19 It's easy to say it's early in the season but as long as Jalen Brown is employed by them
00:00:28 They just won't win. God don't reward selfishness. I mean you can only take like 11 shots
00:00:35 Which was the good part about I turned into a Jalen Brown bashing I should have known that's where it was heading
00:00:40 I didn't know was going there. I thought it was the whole team, but we've also got let's see
00:00:45 We got this by the way, it's not the clues 106 103 to 76ers for those listening we got this not watching
00:00:57 Joel could show will continue getting passes when Brown plays like this
00:01:00 Okay, you got this rounds more Branson. I don't disagree
00:01:05 Rather than rather than me bring the rage
00:01:08 Not sure how you can justify to keep playing Pritchard guy is zero for his last 100 and is a huge liability on D
00:01:15 He looks scared to shoot
00:01:17 That's fair
00:01:19 Tatum went from MVP to at best the two on a championship team
00:01:26 Derek white who can do no wrong
00:01:28 113 is kind of a lot kind of a lot of a lot spot the lie there spot the lie
00:01:33 Kind of a lot just saying it's kind of Marcus smart ask there. Yeah
00:01:40 So anything on anything on Porzingis? No
00:01:45 There we go. No bench in Porzingis will be hurt
00:01:52 Yeah, okay, that's that's that's doom and gloom let's get the holiday
00:01:56 So-so game. Yeah, focus on and beat drop 30
00:02:01 Anyway should have locked down on max higher team have the talent no winning instinct guys
00:02:06 I'm not disagreeing with you and I'm not making fun of you
00:02:08 It's just interesting how the perception can change as quickly when I do it. I
00:02:13 Do feel like I get in trouble sometimes so anything on Orford the the M beats topper
00:02:18 No, we said there was another Alice done - 23 tonight for the M beats topper. Yeah. Yeah
00:02:25 Yeah, tough one listen tough one
00:02:30 Offensively weird one
00:02:34 Ugly ugly, you know why it turns this ugly Jimmy second quarter there third quarter. Yeah second was bad, too
00:02:41 You know why I turn you know why it turns this quickly
00:02:45 It's the shades shades of what you've seen before, you know, like yeah, it's the PTSD factor
00:02:52 It is because what happened last game last game was like, okay, Minnesota's good and
00:02:56 Celtics didn't have it you can excuse an off night. There's a good team. They played
00:03:02 athletic long good defensively
00:03:05 They have a superstar player lots of reasons why that team can absolutely be competitive with you
00:03:10 You know, you're down a starter not a bad loss at all
00:03:14 but
00:03:16 But the vibe was wow that felt like the 2022 Celtics like just for a flash, you know
00:03:23 I'm not gonna harp on it. We're not gonna beat it beat it in the ground
00:03:27 It's one game but boy did that feel like the 2022 Celtics?
00:03:30 tonight
00:03:32 Also felt like bad versions of the 2022 Celtics in stretches and you just when you see that
00:03:39 That's when you start to get a little bit. Oh
00:03:43 What's going on here and you know, yeah, and then you see your best players kind of shrink, you know
00:03:50 It disappear and look lost and turn the ball over, you know, you see Sherrod Blakely show up, you know
00:03:56 Here to drop some wisdom of his own
00:03:58 And so you start to get what I read. What's up guys? Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah sure
00:04:03 I both you and I missed the last game. Okay, true
00:04:07 So now we're back. We don't know where we don't know where we were on. They mentioned you. Oh
00:04:13 The panic meter comes out actually, let's get the five-person pit. Oh, where's charade on this one, right?
00:04:19 Yeah, I'm gonna get you right in the middle. Sure. I'd somewhere in the middle. Yeah
00:04:22 So, uh, I'm somewhere between Joe sway and Jimmy my brother's calling me right now because we just got out bit on our fantasy
00:04:31 Football trade we got beat and he's pissed and he's calling me. I can't pick up
00:04:34 Are you trying to get the Ravens running back?
00:04:38 No, we're there's our league is to be completely honest. We're gonna do it later. Yeah, that's for the end of the show
00:04:44 So sure on I'm not gonna say like oh my god, burn it down trade everybody fire Joe the chat is up
00:04:50 They're gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it. I
00:04:52 Love them. I love that. I love Chad is but uh, sure you might be a tad fuzzy right now my friend
00:05:01 Are you seeing fuzz Jimmy?
00:05:05 He could just be more a he could just be more rain because of that that shirt. It's more like 720p then
00:05:12 720p
00:05:16 But I'm sure
00:05:20 You know, I'm not a burn it all down sort of panic but like how much are you like, okay
00:05:25 There's so much the wrong word, but I know what you're saying
00:05:28 Go on sure on like legitimate concern with some of the things you've seen in the last couple games
00:05:33 I'm it didn't bother me as a one-off and I'm not ready to freak out
00:05:38 But I think we need to hit the pause button a little bit on the greatest self-esteem of all time
00:05:42 I think we need to hit the pause button on that. There's some things that aren't really
00:05:47 Feeling right right now. This was a it seems that
00:05:52 There's that there's too much of an ebb and flow with their greatness and their crappiness
00:05:59 They're either really really good and or they're having those flashbacks to last year when we just kind of cringe when we saw them down
00:06:07 The stretch, um, you know that play at the very end there
00:06:09 but I don't know what they were looking for way it was
00:06:13 Almost botched. Yeah, um and because I think they were looking for Tatum, but it was over Tatum's head
00:06:20 So it just happened to wind up for zing is
00:06:22 That was a great shot attempt though. I mean
00:06:25 that
00:06:29 He's talking about the Celtics he is not a Celtics fan
00:06:32 No, but they listen
00:06:34 This was a game where they I thought they were playing catch up all the way and that great really that the last two three
00:06:41 Minutes was probably some of the best basketball
00:06:43 They played all game where they wiped out that 13 14 point deficit and we had a chance to tie it there at the end
00:06:48 I'm not like ready to burn the house down
00:06:52 but I definitely want to make sure that the smoke detectors are working right now because something feels like they
00:06:58 They need to get back home and get on a nice little running rhythm to give to make I think
00:07:04 Calm everyone down because I don't like what I saw the Minnesota game to me was just kind of a one-off
00:07:08 That was the best defensive team in the NBA
00:07:11 They were at home and the Celts were due to have an off night with the Philly game
00:07:15 It felt like this was one that they I felt they should have won this one. I
00:07:18 Don't feel they should have won this one. They didn't play well enough to win it, but I think coming into it
00:07:24 I felt that this was a type of game that if you're going to say that you're like the best team in the NBA you come
00:07:30 Into Philly and win this game because that's a good Philly team. Now. We have an alert from Bobby Manning who's out in Philly
00:07:35 Sending us a tweet from from our friend Gary Washburn and that tweet said
00:07:42 Probably one of the more bizarre Missoula postgame session since he's been head coach and that's saying something and apparently
00:07:51 Apparently Joe is something apparently the kumbaya moments that Joe and Gary have been enjoying
00:07:58 So far this season, you know preseason and during the season went up in flames
00:08:04 And we're gonna get that clip. Can't wait. Was that because it wait question that Gary asked or something
00:08:11 I'm gonna guess. Yes, I
00:08:14 Think Jimmy's got a winner
00:08:17 I'm gonna guess. Yes, but you know, here's this is this is the thing though. Um, I
00:08:22 think
00:08:25 This is one of those games
00:08:27 It was there tonight relocate the team
00:08:32 Wick was there he was he was he was this I you know, I
00:08:40 It's hard for me to get angry about this loss
00:08:43 I mean, I think that I felt they should going into it
00:08:46 I felt that if they were going to be like
00:08:47 The team that so many of us have built them up to be they'd win it and if they didn't well, okay
00:08:53 They're bums. Yeah
00:08:55 This would be the last point I'm making this the fact we had to remind ourselves that basically the bulk of their schedule has
00:09:04 been on the road and
00:09:06 To have the record that they have where damn you've had what one two games at home
00:09:11 This homestead is gonna be interesting to see whether
00:09:13 the struggles they've had
00:09:16 the road dynamic was a factor or whether it was just simply that they've got some work to do and some things to figure out
00:09:22 as a group
00:09:24 So
00:09:25 I'm I guess I'm a little bit more frustrated than charada. It's just whatever. I mean, that's fine
00:09:30 It's it's a few games in so take it all
00:09:32 I'm strata, I guess but what's it like? I mean Jimmy, what are you most frustrated about?
00:09:38 Resistancy I thought on defense
00:09:40 They didn't try the way they they I know that they're capable of I thought the Sixers ran them up and down the court
00:09:46 So that that's their ass on the boards. That to me was an effort thing
00:09:50 Yeah on the boards for one fast break. We know that the Sixers are a good fast break team
00:09:55 And so I just like I was frustrated that I just didn't think the Celtics
00:10:00 Came with that listen, they need to know that there's a target on their back every game
00:10:06 Good teams bad teams. There are no days off. No games off that they can take see you sure. I thank you for listening
00:10:12 There are no games on caller
00:10:14 Yeah, and
00:10:18 I don't know. I just like that killer in Sammy and Bobby texted this to us a couple days ago. He hated
00:10:23 the way Jason Tatum
00:10:26 Answered some question I think in the post game after they lost he laughed a lot
00:10:32 He laughed something off brushed it off as you know, got to play better got to be better. But but but but and
00:10:38 you know
00:10:40 Then they come out when they play like this. I
00:10:42 Commend them for hanging in there in the end of the fourth quarter there
00:10:46 they were down ten and they and they brought it back to one possession game kudos for that, but
00:10:50 Same story got a clean look at the end miss the three and then you know, ultimately this time losing regulation
00:10:56 I thought that inbounds was interesting
00:10:59 it looked like white easily could have gotten it to Brown coming around that that turn and and chose not to and
00:11:05 Ended up giving it to Porzingis who had a clean look and missed well short
00:11:10 I
00:11:12 Don't know what the play call was supposed to be there who really was supposed to go to but that's how it looked to me
00:11:18 I mean you got a damn good look at the end there. So you had a great look
00:11:21 I don't complain about the play at all
00:11:23 But I just thought it was interesting that
00:11:24 They didn't get that white didn't give it to Brown when Brown was pretty much off jail in the corner
00:11:29 That was interesting and Brown had just hit a three right before that. So
00:11:34 Whatever. I mean a few things frustrating me. But yeah, that certainly is one of them
00:11:39 I mean Brown and Tatum were cold throughout this one Brown doesn't look
00:11:42 I'm gonna save that. I know that you probably have some thoughts. I
00:11:46 Was I was glad to see Porzingis on one hand. I thought Porzingis offensively looked good on defense again. It's against Embiid
00:11:54 But starting to see yeah, you know physical
00:11:58 Limitations here a little bit on the reason I'm a porzingis you ever noticed why I don't go hard on walk
00:12:04 I don't go hard on Jalen after bad Jalen games
00:12:06 Like all the time is because my opinion my overarching opinion on Brown doesn't change with a good game or a bad game
00:12:14 I'm not playing this like oh, did you see that half Xanis? I guess he stinks, right?
00:12:20 Right, nor am I like taking a victory lap when he has a dog shit game like this
00:12:23 I think he's got these flaws in his game that he hasn't been able to fix or get over and when they rear their heads
00:12:29 They're really friggin ugly, you know, but obviously he's also capable of lighting the world on fire
00:12:35 That's just part of the Jalen Brown experience
00:12:37 it's just when you're talking about somebody you're trying to take to another level and
00:12:41 You know talking about him in a conversation of all NBA and among the best players X Y & Z
00:12:47 I you know, I've never really bought into it for those reasons. We're gonna listen. We're gonna get Sherrod back in a second
00:12:53 We're gonna listen to Joe Mazzola and Gary Washburn
00:12:56 Saying how it's saying hi to each other after the game. Here we go
00:13:00 Um
00:13:03 You I was just finished reading a great article that you wrote in
00:13:06 2016 that the Celtics shot too many threes and they shot 42 and that was seven years ago
00:13:11 And they only shot five more tonight and they lost 121 to 114 and you blame the offense
00:13:16 But not the defense so like what's your fascination with too much threes?
00:13:22 For the last seven years
00:13:24 2016 2023 I just read it was a great article
00:13:28 Yeah
00:13:30 Are the Celtics settling for two million threes? You said that seven years ago. You're ahead of the curve
00:13:34 Dude that was weird
00:13:41 10 tense I can't tell if he's joking or if he's serious. Oh that that's that what we call it tongue-in-cheek
00:13:49 Yeah, exactly
00:13:51 That was weird. Well, I wish I wish I knew what the question was
00:13:55 Right now and just see what the hell that was we get Gary on can we get carry on the show sure I get him on
00:14:01 The show let's get the let's get the low down here
00:14:03 Let's get it right from Gary's mouth. What happened? I mean
00:14:07 That was weird
00:14:10 Was I wonder what Gary was asking? I mean was he saying did you feel like you're relying too much in the three-point when it's not
00:14:15 Falling you have situations like this perhaps. I mean, I don't know
00:14:19 What are they what they shoot from three and it wasn't good. Yeah 32%
00:14:22 The whole concept 47 threes, yeah
00:14:28 You write something seven years ago and and we want to have a conversation about after you just lost
00:14:34 But it's strange I mean, yeah seven years ago is completely different
00:14:39 Seven years ago 42 threes is like 55 threes now
00:14:46 So, I mean right not quite but still it's like it goes up and up and up
00:14:50 Stevens philosophy
00:14:53 Exactly. Also, no, I mean, what are we doing here, man?
00:14:57 Like why is Joe doing that like I it just it just doesn't help him
00:15:05 It just it feels like it's almost like it is it is a deflection tactic to take the focus off of what we just saw
00:15:11 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know
00:15:15 That it's bizarre. Really a weird one
00:15:17 Yeah, it's really weird it's really weird
00:15:24 I don't know
00:15:28 That was that was just bizarre
00:15:33 Well, what do you guys think did they take too many threes yes, they did it again
00:15:40 Did you know it was when they get frustrated when the paint when that when when when you have, you know defenders?
00:15:46 That are making it harder to get there. You've got a paint presence. What happened the last two games the first games
00:15:51 They played with legitimate interior presence, you know, and so it got a little bit
00:15:55 Frustrating and it wasn't a layup drill like it was the other games. They couldn't get to the cup as efficiently
00:16:01 So it starts to get and that's where it gets is. Can you work through those things?
00:16:06 I actually thought Tatum did a good job in, Minnesota
00:16:09 Clearly having a tougher time getting what he wanted out of that game
00:16:13 You know, but this game you could tell the frustration there was a lot of a lot of a lot more of this
00:16:22 A lot of whatever and then just settling for the first three, you know settling for that quick three
00:16:27 That's what you don't like what you know
00:16:29 There's threes that you work for and then there's threes that you know, it's the it's it's the whole Joe
00:16:36 Philosophy of the first open look and if it's an open three, it's a good three. That's not necessarily the case
00:16:41 Yeah, go ahead. I was gonna say that that that whole mindset. That's not why they got off to that great start
00:16:47 They were taking they didn't take the best or skimming any take the first open look
00:16:51 They took the best shot and usually that was like Tatum back and someone down or drew holiday getting someone in a post
00:16:57 Taking advantage of their size advantage that they had a positions and you never really saw them kind of go to that
00:17:03 Even I thought that there were times where they could have done that
00:17:06 For me and Jimmy you talked about this earlier for me
00:17:09 The most disturbing thing was seeing how drew holiday did a better job defending Joel Embiid
00:17:16 This presing is I mean it like it wasn't even close. I mean
00:17:20 You know, that's a concern. Yeah, I'll do by the way, right?
00:17:25 Yeah
00:17:26 because I mean
00:17:26 Joel is getting a ball in the elbow with drew on him and he's looking to facilitate rather than back him down and he's getting
00:17:32 A ball in the same spot with presing is on him and he's getting aggressive going to the rim
00:17:37 That's that's a little bit concerning
00:17:39 because this is one of those teams that if you're getting to the
00:17:42 Near the end of the line as far as the season is concerned and you've got one team or two teams
00:17:47 You got to get past to get to the finals Philly. Is that type of team? That's probably gonna be there. So
00:17:52 Yeah, I
00:17:56 Wasn't happy about the way that they defended or how
00:18:01 Some of the there were some defensive kinks that we we found in our armor that Philly exposed. I thought
00:18:07 Yeah, I think so, too. And um
00:18:10 Maxi's a beast for them now, huh? Yeah, but hey, this speed was a problem. His speed was a big
00:18:16 They weren't keep they weren't keeping up. He was 11 of 27 3 of 11 from 3 like I get it
00:18:24 He is fast and he is good. But like we've seen him play well before
00:18:28 And his speeds always been a problem. He's just in a more prominent role now because Harden's not there
00:18:34 So he's got the ball in his hands, but like we've seen this guy before he didn't have a ridiculously
00:18:39 Dominant game. He's just you're just more of him. But again, the final number wasn't that efficient tonight?
00:18:46 He didn't have a dominant game. He's 11 for 27, you know, I thought they did an okay job with him
00:18:51 He's just he's very explosive and he's impressive and you see it in flashes
00:18:55 But I'm not like flipping out over like Maxi torch them tonight
00:18:58 I mean you hold them bead to 27 Maxi shoots 11 for 27 with 20, you know
00:19:04 25 points you win those games like it was they were
00:19:07 Dysfunctional offensively today. They only gave up 106. I'm not like I'm not bashing what happened on defense here
00:19:15 The offense just looks out of sync and we're back to 2022 Celtics
00:19:19 Which is if the threes fall you're good and if they don't we're not
00:19:23 Sort of thing and that's kind of what you see in the last couple of games and that's what's disheartening
00:19:27 Because you don't want this to become a team that's solely reliant on the shots falling or not
00:19:32 Right, and I think that's when you talk about panic or whatnot. That's not that's not the word, but that's why you're you're jolted
00:19:39 You're a tennis or up?
00:19:40 Yeah, your antennas are up because you say well not this again and the first few games were like this is awesome
00:19:46 They're scoring in the post. Look at these plays look at like they're not relying on they're not just walking it up and chucking threes
00:19:53 And I'm not saying that's all they did tonight either
00:19:55 but there does seem to be a little bit more like remnants of that style of play and if
00:20:00 Gary mentioned something about that or if he alluded to
00:20:05 Settling for threes tonight and Joe gets super defensive about it
00:20:10 And that tell me they probably settled for two and three that tells me that is probably some truth to it because otherwise you wouldn't
00:20:16 React that way and so they did they totally settled more than they normally do though in this game
00:20:22 I mean, even if the numbers don't bear that out. They looked wait those shot
00:20:27 There's a reason why those shots came so easy
00:20:29 Against Philly because Philly knew that the Celtics if they're going the best way to beat the Celtics is to frankly
00:20:35 Force them to get comfortable let them get comfortable taking shots that that aren't necessarily
00:20:40 Shots that you can rely on
00:20:43 They've been so good about working the inside and into in working the post and things like that
00:20:48 That this this really felt like kind of an atypical game of the 23 Celtics
00:20:53 But to the point that you made John earlier this this is like, you know back to the future damn near what we saw
00:21:00 this is the kind of stuff this thing that made fans cringe thinking like
00:21:03 This is gonna work some games, but when it doesn't work, it looks bad
00:21:08 The difference was like it wasn't like one
00:21:10 Like you look at this Celtic shot charts. I mean poor zing is love the team with 19 shots
00:21:15 I mean Derek White was second with 18. It was the Tatum was it was a weird. Yeah, it was a little attempts
00:21:21 Not a weird night, right? Yeah. I mean how often
00:21:24 How many times do those games occur where neither Brown or Tatum is in your top two?
00:21:30 Field goal attempts when they you know playing a full game, but I don't mind it. I don't mind it when it works
00:21:36 Yeah, exactly, you know, but if it doesn't work then why aren't these guys?
00:21:41 again
00:21:42 Are they not working hard enough to find shots to take shots or because if they're not forcing shots, that's great
00:21:47 I'm not saying force a bunch more threes and it you know, it didn't seem like they
00:21:52 It's bad when they take fewer shots and make fewer shots
00:21:56 So that's the problem there is if they were a be more aggressive
00:22:00 Yeah, I went to the line. Yeah, I went to the line twice Tatum went to the line three times
00:22:05 That's not gonna cut it because MB owned them last postseason every time they went down it ended badly
00:22:11 well, I
00:22:13 Don't care
00:22:15 Figure it out. It's not
00:22:17 That's not a juice. I gotta get back to it. You know, I gotta get back to the Joe clip
00:22:22 Put it play it again. I gotta play it one more time. Oh
00:22:25 This is not waiting in for the people who I look I I know people at home are gonna be like media
00:22:34 Making up stuff and nobody likes the media
00:22:36 Of course, you're always gonna side with players and coaches and this and that this is just like
00:22:41 Awesome. It's just yeah vomit says basically
00:22:45 vomit tells us that you know
00:22:46 I don't think it's in the clip but basically Gary just said the offense settled for a lot of threes and then Joe got defensive on
00:22:52 Yeah, so one more time again. I just I don't know what this does
00:22:56 Um
00:22:59 You I was just finished reading a great article that you wrote in
00:23:02 2016 that the Celtics shot too many threes and they shot 42 and that was seven years ago
00:23:07 And we only shot five more tonight and they lost 121 to 114 and you blame the offense
00:23:12 But not the defense so like what's your fascination with too much threes?
00:23:17 For the last seven years
00:23:20 2016 2023 I just read it was a great article
00:23:24 Yeah, like are the Celtics settling for too many threes. You said that seven years ago. You're ahead of the curve
00:23:36 Like toxic
00:23:38 It's
00:23:42 uncomfortable in every sense of the word
00:23:44 And I'm like he's like tying him up and he's like it's not it's not a gacha you think it is - it's like
00:23:52 Remember me
00:23:54 You're an article dummy seven years. He went so you weren't the coach seven years ago, dude
00:23:59 You know, I got these scars waiting for the next time Gary asked that to drop that on him. He couldn't forget
00:24:06 After a loss all he wanted to do was own Gary Washburn. That's where we are
00:24:11 But what do you do? I do that buddy. He kind of reminded me of the Joker a little bit
00:24:15 It's creepy
00:24:19 You know, I got these we need some mouth tape, yeah
00:24:23 Right. So I kind of tell you if all you was tying him up is what the kill him and he was like, hey
00:24:28 This is why I'm killing you. Oh, you wrote that article about me seven years ago
00:24:32 Yeah, by the way, it wasn't even about me. It wasn't about you
00:24:36 Strange I don't know. I mean like
00:24:43 Well, I think you can't have those clips. You can't have those sounds
00:24:47 Oh, here's the thing the other thing to it
00:24:49 And I don't know if you guys got into it before before I jumped on but they got their asses kicked on the boards
00:24:54 Badly, I mean those offensive rebounds
00:24:59 Session with too few rebounds
00:25:01 Oh, I don't know it kind of F's you up when you don't win
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00:27:11 Here I have not spoken much about Jalen Brown
00:27:15 I'm letting everybody else do the talking because I don't want this to seem like it's agenda driven
00:27:19 But Jalen had a dogshit game tonight made two major
00:27:23 winning plays late in the game with a three with a three and and
00:27:27 and
00:27:29 and a block shot
00:27:30 I actually wanted him to get that last shot there because I wanted to see if he could do the full Marcus smart kind of
00:27:35 you know
00:27:37 Reversal of playing an absolutely terrible game but making all the plays when they counted ball instead went to Chris taps for Zingas and he
00:27:44 Came up really really short on a three-point attempt, but uh Brown that maddening inconsistency here
00:27:50 And he's he's becoming you know a target for people when they see the struggles
00:27:54 And I don't think he's been you know some box scores might reflect differently. I don't think he's been great
00:28:00 You know for a lot of this year, and you know some of the concerns about kind of finding his fit
00:28:05 You know I feel like it's warranted what we talked about is just trying to sometimes force the issue
00:28:12 And that's kind of what happened tonight. I mean those turnovers were just flat-out forces
00:28:17 Especially those back-to-back ones there and just the situational awareness and what's necessary and what's needed at the time
00:28:23 You know I get it teams not doing well offensively you're a super gifted offensive player
00:28:29 And you're like I got to put my imprint on this game, and maybe I can help turn us around
00:28:33 But when it goes bad it looks like this, and it was just it was it was grizzly for a while
00:28:38 It was grizzly he had to sit in the fourth. I mean it was he was killing him
00:28:42 I was a short rest and he came back in but they had to have to get him out of there right now
00:28:47 I give Joe Mizzou some credit for doing that. I mean just recognizing that my guy. He just didn't have it
00:28:53 Plain and simple when whenever you have a game where your shots made is equal to the number of turnovers. You've made
00:28:59 That's never a good thing
00:29:01 That's never good, and I'm not ahead of the curve when I say that's not a good thing you might
00:29:07 Jail he just had a
00:29:09 shitty game
00:29:11 and
00:29:12 To me he's got he's just got to figure out find that equilibrium space where he can be impactful
00:29:19 More so than been harmful, and I thought he just didn't have it. I mean he basically had a good
00:29:25 3045 seconds near the end where he had to block and he made the shot and other than that
00:29:30 He really didn't give you a whole lot out there
00:29:34 Yeah, I thought yeah, I mean I know it's just it's only four turnovers
00:29:37 I should say but there are a couple that stood out to me just in like
00:29:39 pretty close together
00:29:42 It's just like come on man like he was like jubilant traffic was like the same
00:29:45 Then the one where he just tried to cross half-court with it
00:29:53 And it's just like yeah
00:29:54 No
00:29:54 Just slapping it around until he finally lost it and everyone else is looking at him like you don't have to do this right now
00:30:00 You know like you can pass it at any time, right?
00:30:04 you know and
00:30:05 That was the thing is like it's very reminiscent of past seasons with the same style of trying to you know
00:30:12 Dribble into traffic leave your feet turn the ball over above up a lot of stuff. So that was frustrating
00:30:17 I mean, yeah, I mean off night shooting wise. It's fine. He had a big three at the end
00:30:20 To put them within three
00:30:23 And I think what he hit like two threes in that fourth quarter there that after having after being really really cold, but
00:30:29 listen the thing about Jalen Brown is
00:30:31 He's
00:30:34 He can play to his strengths now
00:30:36 Theoretically, he should be able to play to his strengths a lot more than he could in past years because he shouldn't be needing
00:30:40 to be
00:30:43 out of position or point Jalen or or you know
00:30:46 Drew in the ball when he doesn't need to be like you should just be focused on scoring the basketball
00:30:51 He should be Tobias Harris Sharad, right? I mean, I'll stop we want a better
00:30:58 Jimmy I'm gonna just shut you down right the hell right now
00:31:00 He has to be better than Tobias Harris, but that's the mindset. I want just score fine. That's all
00:31:08 I know he's got to be better than Tobias Harris. That's just a name because they played six years tonight fine
00:31:13 He's Kelly Oubre. Oh god
00:31:15 He should be Kelly Oubre
00:31:18 You know what speaking of Kelly Oubre?
00:31:20 Kelly Oubre was looking for a job now listen
00:31:26 Listen being ahead of the curve
00:31:28 Since we're on that theme Gary Washburn the one that was
00:31:32 2016 article Gary had been I thought for Kelly Oubre for the longest time
00:31:38 Yeah
00:31:38 Like a long long long ass time that Gary wanted Kelly Oubre to be someone at the Celtics targeted
00:31:45 We talked about that on a Jimmy's on the brain over and over
00:31:47 Yeah, I've been on you betray Jimmy's there and I like him too. Oh, you'll find no sign for like
00:31:54 Two million bucks on a one-year deal and you're telling me taking a look at this Celtics bench
00:31:59 If they couldn't find a place so
00:32:02 You go ahead problem with the problem with Oubre though was that when he was looking at teams
00:32:07 He wanted to go somewhere where he get a chance to play and shine and that wasn't gonna happen in Boston
00:32:12 You kidding me? There's 30 minutes available for him on this team. He's not looking like that. He's seeing Tatum
00:32:18 He's seeing Brown and he's seeing guys that are going to get the bulk of the shots
00:32:23 You look at this Philly team other than Maxie and and Joel who the hell else is gonna take shots
00:32:27 and
00:32:29 So he I mean for him I get it why you want to go to fill you got a better chance to put up big
00:32:34 numbers, but
00:32:36 Boston would have been a better fit
00:32:38 I think for him long term because he could have been part of a team that was
00:32:42 Legitimately competing for a championship and he could have been a big part of that. It's an interesting bench, though
00:32:47 I like what Philly's assembled
00:32:50 Like you've got you know, you've got guys who can this is what we're trying to figure out what the Celtics need out of their
00:32:55 Bench, right Philly's not getting great scoring out of guys like Covington or Batum
00:33:00 But they're getting good defense out of those guys Beverly another one, you know, Cormac can shoot a little bit, you know
00:33:05 But that's about it
00:33:07 Like that they're getting that type of contribution and they know who's got a score and it's the guys who they have in that top
00:33:13 Unit, which is kind of what the Celtics are which again? I'm gonna start to wonder
00:33:18 What's this all three of you guys nay nice
00:33:20 Thank you, um, they want us to say
00:33:24 Should they change coaches?
00:33:27 Yeah, we should have it should have in the offseason. That was honestly I was in that of that opinion
00:33:32 So is that at 3o they got right when they got eliminated see at 3o
00:33:37 I think Joe was a 50/50 to return
00:33:39 I swear if they go down in four and I think game seven
00:33:42 Tilted it back to like let's run it back and see what we've got. I but who knows who knows
00:33:47 I mean, he'd gotten the extension
00:33:49 I'm not really sure what they would have done there
00:33:50 But you got to start to wonder when you talk about Joe everyone obsesses over too many threes. What's his philosophy?
00:33:56 Getting you know making sure that the ball gets into certain people's hands at different times in the game
00:34:01 Is he actually telling them what they need to be doing or is he just letting them kind of go play and he's in the back
00:34:06 Those have been the criticisms before we have to start talking about like his kind of
00:34:14 You know how conservative his conservative approach to who he gives minutes to
00:34:18 It's really hard to enter the Missoula circle of trust and right now
00:34:24 I think this should be audition time these wins and losses don't matter as much you have full health
00:34:30 So you have the luxury to mix and match a little bit especially against weaker opponents
00:34:34 You need to when you're deciding who's gonna play on your bench
00:34:36 You need to give full-on like full night
00:34:40 Audition minutes to certain people like tonight's Lamar's night not four minutes of Lamar
00:34:44 Because you can't get a snapshot there all of a sudden Breset the NPC D back-to-back. He's friggin gone
00:34:52 That's that that's what you do to the Nismith's of the world when you want to break their brains, you know
00:34:56 Like it's really hard to kind of bring guys in and out give them two three minutes
00:35:00 See if they look okay, and then never put them back in the game again
00:35:03 You got to start auditioning other guys and seeing if they can help you you need some energy. You need some defense
00:35:09 You know what? You didn't have tonight. You didn't have I hate like it seems cliche ish
00:35:13 But you didn't have the Marcus smart Grant Williams gritty dirty get on the floor body
00:35:19 You know, you know and and kind of you know, when things are getting ugly
00:35:23 You didn't have people who would play ugly you had
00:35:26 Pritchard and Hauser running around seeing if they could get threes off and Hauser acquitted himself well today
00:35:30 But you might need to mix it up a little bit here
00:35:32 And you might need to put in the guys who are gonna be athletic and yes one thing for said gave you energy
00:35:38 Even though he wasn't giving you a ton else
00:35:40 But I think that's what you got to kind of look at from the bench here and not just keep running it back
00:35:45 There's just too many
00:35:47 Hauser Hauser Pritchard lineups right there and Hauser's been Hauser's toast guys like I mean a Pritchard
00:35:53 What?
00:35:55 Okay, I hope not cuz in there really scriptures not the reason they're losing games, but Pritchard's giving you zero
00:36:03 So, please please do something else do anything else, you know
00:36:08 Try Banton a little bit try something just you got to mix it up some
00:36:12 Yeah, I mean and Joe doesn't do that. No and I guess that's the thing that's really surprising because you have a
00:36:20 bench with guys that have a very specific
00:36:24 Skillset that you need and that high energy and you know that dirty play that or not dirty foot, but just that that grind
00:36:33 Mindset that's what percent does
00:36:35 That's what Lamar Stevens does and you don't have anyone else on your squad who's playing
00:36:40 Significant minutes who can do that consistently and so I don't get why you don't want that guy out there because those are the kind
00:36:46 Of guys that can help you go on like an 8-0
00:36:49 10 to run without taking a single shot. They'll tip a ball out to Tatum who hit a three
00:36:54 They'll die for a loose ball the force to jump up
00:36:57 They'll do all those little things that at the end of the night when you look and break down
00:37:02 What was the key run that you went on that player at the end of your business on the floor?
00:37:06 Yeah, and I just use he's a Syracuse guy. This this is it. So we're doing listen. It's not Bruce
00:37:12 I mean we're talking about the monster John and I we've both been on the Lamar Stevens band
00:37:16 I don't know why Steven's can't get on the court
00:37:18 Once he once Lamar Stevens gets on the floor and starts getting steady minutes
00:37:21 It's gonna be extremely difficult to extract him from playing regularly because I think he's just one of those
00:37:27 Energy guys that can do a lot of different things that for whatever reason we're not really seeing
00:37:33 I
00:37:35 I'm confused by it because I thought that was one of the great offseason. I mean
00:37:39 Brad Stevens did a lot of really good deals this year
00:37:42 But I thought getting Lamar Stevens was one of those low-key sneaky really really good deals. That's gonna pay off way more than
00:37:48 people understand at that time I
00:37:51 Don't know what I mean they got maybe he sucks in practice. I don't know what the deal is, but they don't spend time practicing
00:37:59 Yeah
00:38:01 Like good enough, I mean he's got who knows what they see legit NBA experience. I mean the guy played
00:38:10 He started last year
00:38:13 You know
00:38:16 Yeah, yeah regular minutes and now he can't even crack
00:38:20 You can't even crack the bench and probably probably the worst bench in the NBA and you can't even get playing time in terms
00:38:26 Of scoring it's like I don't watch the Lakers at all shooters. Yeah, Lakers are the only team that gets fewer points from his benched in the southeast
00:38:33 I
00:38:34 Can't figure it out. I mean why did reset get the first run for said has a decent
00:38:38 You know track record was shooting threes. He's not a volume shooter, but he he can shoot
00:38:43 He hasn't shot well here, but again Joe's obsession with making sure whoever's coming in off that bench can shoot
00:38:49 I think is factoring in what you have here
00:38:51 certainly
00:38:53 certainly Stevens cannot
00:38:56 Right Banton cannot and those guys aren't earning the minutes
00:38:59 Well shit, I mean
00:39:03 Nobody on this bench can shoot except how's it right now as far as I'm concerned
00:39:09 So for me, it's a wash offensively bringing guys that have energy and can play defense
00:39:13 Like you just said John the Sixers what they do they Brent they have some
00:39:16 Solid role players on that on that bench that aren't looking to drop, you know, 10 15 20 points a game
00:39:22 This is a good idea. They should let Van Gundy do every presser
00:39:25 That would be awesome, let's play fill in the blank Van Gundy will be the Celtics coach by blank
00:39:35 Wow
00:39:37 damn
00:39:39 They should seven days in damn. Sure. Turn Missoula into like the
00:39:44 Defensive coordinator or whatever offensive coordinator, so he doesn't have to do any press current
00:39:48 He just stays up in the halo and then Van Gundy will be the figurehead and he'll do
00:39:53 With all the other stuff and do the interviews. Thank you guys sending in super chats
00:39:57 The proceeds would go to the host if they filled out their forms on which shows they were in on but until then Nick's just gonna
00:40:04 Hold on to all of it
00:40:05 and head down to meet a
00:40:07 Over in Eastie and have another have another martini and that's what's gonna happen
00:40:12 How are the money's going to that's gonna happen with your super chat money. So next martini fun. I can't I can't cut into that
00:40:17 It's the martini fun
00:40:21 Yeah, I can't it doesn't drink martinis as much as you drink just bowls of vodka there's nothing else in it
00:40:27 There's no like for my glasses not shots, but bowl. I will have a bowl of vodka
00:40:31 Yeah, I've sat next to him a few times when he's ordered a martini and the bartender's like so it's just vodka
00:40:38 well, you know, it's
00:40:41 Yeah
00:40:43 Yeah, actually it is. Yes. What's up, dud?
00:40:46 Yeah, we do need a bench Dudley
00:40:50 Say some prayers for our bench, please. No, please
00:40:54 Yeah
00:40:56 Chat chats definitely a little behind us tonight. We're reacting to stuff that they said a little while back, but it is what it is
00:41:01 We're a little bit behind
00:41:04 He's gonna try we'll hang out a few more minutes see if Bobby gets on Bobby is in Philly
00:41:10 Talking to the guys, you know, he's gonna he's got a cornet play
00:41:16 It's he's giving cornet two minutes of interview time for every minute. He played tonight. So it's a six minute interview
00:41:22 And we'll play the whole thing when Bobby gets back. I don't even remember Cornett's minutes. I was gonna say I
00:41:28 Played they were brief
00:41:31 I'm looking on Twitter for any quotes coming up, but I don't see anything right now
00:41:36 Yeah, I don't see anything. Do you remember that tweet you said back in 2014 Jimmy? Do you remember that?
00:41:42 I'm actually you guys can't see but I'm deleting on my my tweets
00:41:46 Anything that says too many threes. I'm deleting right now on Twitter
00:41:50 Wow, he went back to 2016. It's funny. It's funny that Judah mentions this we are in fact talking about premium
00:41:58 Oh God, Judah magic. I don't I guess friggin terrified but
00:42:03 We are just for 20 minutes. We're talking about premium subscription
00:42:09 Tier Wow where we will allow only come on
00:42:13 Yeah
00:42:15 People to come on with us and hang out and talk and just BS a little bit for kind of an extended garden report
00:42:21 We almost run it like spaces. We'll kind of let you come out and hang out. Yeah tough on this show
00:42:26 Not on my show buddy on your show
00:42:29 We'll do it
00:42:33 We will do it I dare you yes, I dare me to do it
00:42:39 We'll do it you and I even you
00:42:41 Premium subscription people
00:42:46 People will pay people will pay just as fast you John actually, yeah, it's like it's like a human. It's like a virtual dunk tank
00:42:53 Yes, exactly. There'll be a line out the door
00:42:56 Yeah
00:43:00 Which is fine Oh Cass, yeah Cass we know you're first in line
00:43:08 This I'm glad that somebody commented this this was an absolute bogus it was bogus tech
00:43:15 He was running down full force and was
00:43:20 Bogus if we're seeing is that let go of the rim he would have fallen on his back
00:43:26 So, of course, he had to hold on a little bit longer
00:43:29 That was such I couldn't get away and it wasn't really it wasn't like a showboating
00:43:35 Van Gundy question not at all
00:43:37 Midseason. Yeah
00:43:39 We this far behind Dale tomorrow
00:43:41 January
00:43:48 Yeah, no, it's gonna be a
00:43:50 November 9th
00:43:53 They've got like three different candidates who can fill in
00:43:56 That's the I mean that that's the downside of like having a really really talented bitch
00:44:03 coaching staff
00:44:05 They're coming for you, but then I'm doing anything where the hell were they last two games?
00:44:10 Yeah, the good news is Joe gets to be GM after they fire
00:44:13 Yeah, I know that's the trend. So that's how it works. It's kind of cool
00:44:18 It's the best situation to be in
00:44:22 Failing upward if you got years on your other than we will just make you GM
00:44:27 Bad news is we're gonna have to let you go. The good news is you got a promotion
00:44:31 Oh
00:44:33 Boy
00:44:37 So, yeah, but yeah look it's not a
00:44:40 There it is Nick. Here we go. They're coming at Nick now for his vodka fund you cheapo
00:44:46 Pay them
00:44:50 Do you think wick went in there and told him it was unacceptable after the game
00:44:55 Not today not today not today
00:45:01 I'm just I'm just curious. What would it Joe say to them because you know for him to pull out the
00:45:07 2016 you wrote an article back then in the presser
00:45:11 What's what's he telling his players in a locker room after a game like this?
00:45:14 Because I mean they were there are very specific things that they got their asses kicked areas
00:45:18 They got their asses kicked in that had nothing to do with anything that was said or done in the past
00:45:23 I mean, you're the number one rebounding team you got and you got
00:45:27 Just smashed on the glass
00:45:29 You did take too many threes because you one of the strengths you've had is the ability to balance the two-point game
00:45:34 It's a three-point game, you know the Celtics they ranked, you know among like
00:45:39 They're kind of like middle of the pack when it comes to like two pointers taken but they're like top three top four in percentage
00:45:45 So it tells you that when you go to that particular. Well, you have a high efficiency of being impactful and tonight
00:45:52 You think they just didn't look for those matchups where I thought they had some opportunities to work on that work inside of the three-point line
00:46:00 This is lost if I were comparing losses
00:46:03 I'm way more disappointed in this loss than I was against definitely. Oh, no, it's not really
00:46:09 And yeah, I can't I'm trying to put a finger on why I mean I won it's Philly
00:46:15 It's a team that you're gonna see later on not just you know, not just I'm talking about in the playoffs
00:46:20 You know, you're gonna see them later on at players at some point. You can't avoid a Boston Philadelphia
00:46:24 playoff matchup and
00:46:27 They got to figure out a way to be more physical with Embiid
00:46:32 Get him get him off his game a little bit. He was running the show
00:46:36 I know this stat line doesn't jump out but he was playing to the crowd the crowd was into it
00:46:40 He was making some big plays on both ends of the court. Very comfortable. Like you said earlier Sharad. They were scared of him
00:46:47 The one the one thing they did right at the end was when they didn't double him and he scored on over Tatum
00:46:52 They went back and they doubled him on the next possession
00:46:56 Forced him to pass it and then I think it was Maxie who missed the who missed the shot and then they had a chance to
00:47:03 Tap so I'll give Missoula props for just not going, you know, one-on-one against and beating it on that last possession
00:47:09 But they they have to be the Celtics have to be the killers out there, even though they're on the road all that stuff
00:47:16 Well, they're the team. It's supposed to be the team to be
00:47:19 Yeah, it kind of goes back to what we were talking earlier about just using your bench and planted a strange
00:47:25 They didn't have anybody that was grinding out there
00:47:27 They didn't have anybody that was like you felt was playing balls out out there who was giving everything they had
00:47:33 It's just they were just kind of you know, easy breezy out there a plant, you know
00:47:37 Just real cool calm and getting kicked getting their asses kicked out there
00:47:43 Yeah, they they did let's let's we're gonna bring Bobby on in a second. First off want to tell you about oh, yeah
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00:49:50 The other thing that that's really good is the creativity to like slightly deviate from what you would normally make like here
00:49:57 I made grilled chicken and broccoli like yeah. Yeah, it's like it's a little bit different. So that's good
00:50:03 Let's bring in Bobby fish guy
00:50:05 Fish guy, what's up Bobby? You got me first of all, yeah, we got you. Is Joe, okay
00:50:12 Sounds fun with the game Bobby looked around that look was like
00:50:19 He's like Bobby I I just watched a podcast of yours from
00:50:25 Night. Yeah. All right. Go Bobby. You said back at the garden report that I was a weirdo
00:50:31 I did I did yeah, that was five years ago. No Joe was last night. I'm a weirdo last night I did
00:50:37 But yeah, anyway
00:50:40 If a million Bobby's like he's right behind
00:50:42 There's a lot right behind me I can't see it but we can't see it but Joe is in front of the camera with a gun
00:50:50 Pointing it. You better say the right thing
00:50:52 Right. Yeah, you know, he's reading now obviously
00:50:56 But what I came away with from that presser it was a familiar tone of we played good. We did some good things
00:51:03 I liked how the bench played and said so
00:51:06 not a lot of constructive even criticism of the team out of this one in a game where they
00:51:11 Pretty much got out competed throughout outmaneuvered at times
00:51:15 But overall I thought they just let the Sixers play
00:51:18 Comfortable for much of this one and the one big thing I felt coming out of this was that this is a team in
00:51:25 Philadelphia that has really struggled really looked off-balance
00:51:27 Against the Celtics in recent years and in this game
00:51:31 They kind of did whatever they wanted for most of it until the late collapse where they just looked like an absolute disaster
00:51:36 And I thought that's what the comeback was more about than anything the Celtics did though
00:51:41 They did start the fourth quarter
00:51:42 Well, but after two bad losses after three games where your reliance on the three-point shot
00:51:48 Faded a little bit in terms of its effectiveness
00:51:52 You figure you'd hear some things they need to work on some things that they could do better
00:51:57 Some points he could adjust on Joe that is but overall much like last year
00:52:02 we played well, you know, we did some good stuff and we lost a
00:52:06 Familiar tone from him postgame even when you we talked about that earlier
00:52:13 Bobby and I Bobby I had a question for you though. I mean one of the big
00:52:19 Differences that people probably haven't paid much attention to a Philadelphia is they got a new head coach?
00:52:23 How much do you think the Nick Nurse factor played into this Philadelphia team looking and playing a lot different than we've seen in past?
00:52:30 It's it's a big factor, but the personnel obviously is - I thought the tune was great in this one
00:52:35 Maxi's more free to do whatever he wants. In fact Nick nurse said coming into this game
00:52:40 He wants him to be more aggressive. He wants him to do more. He wants him to shoot more
00:52:45 He wants him to just do more for this team and you saw him do that in this game
00:52:48 I thought he gave the Celtics fits at times. I am bead doesn't have to do as much especially late in this game
00:52:55 He was able to defer to some other players. Then he hit that big shot over Tatum
00:52:58 So there's more balance on this team particularly on both ends of the ball. I thought they defended well for much of this game
00:53:04 I thought again something I've been talking about John
00:53:06 He really challenged for Zingas and they were going at him, you know
00:53:11 The Celtics try to keep poor Zingas away from him, but he was still able and flick along with others
00:53:15 But can't you live with the results?
00:53:17 Can't you live with with you can and I thought you live without with it with a 20-point and bead game
00:53:24 I mean 27 point and bead game when he only gets to the line six times. That's a that's a that's a
00:53:29 You win most of those games
00:53:32 Yeah, you should I mean cuz
00:53:36 Yeah, he's a guy that's neutralizing and bead like that you win most of those games. He didn't eat you up
00:53:42 He didn't get all your bigs and foul trouble, you know poor Zingas got two quick ones there in the second half
00:53:48 But you know to get to four and then he took a rest a little early. That was kind of a bummer
00:53:53 He comes out of I think like the 936 mark there of the of the fourth at Bobby's Bobby's praying
00:53:58 We're gonna
00:54:00 We'll give him a chance to reload
00:54:02 Damn it
00:54:08 At
00:54:09 2019 garden report damn. What did I say about Joe bringing Bobby back?
00:54:14 But Bobby I say you live with that right you live with you live with what you got out of MB tonight
00:54:18 I don't think that ate him alive. You can't play him perfectly again
00:54:20 In fact, I thought they I thought he was more successful than I would have expected. Yeah, he's frozen
00:54:25 Yeah, he's grinning though. I think I think I think I made him happy
00:54:29 He's happy you always happy
00:54:32 He's happy. He's in a better place
00:54:34 I
00:54:36 Want more postgame insight I want to know like I do too did he even mention the the the brouhaha
00:54:47 Did he even mention no, I want to ask him about that. Yeah, it was a dude to do I would say
00:54:54 Yeah
00:54:57 The Twitter world reacting to it I
00:55:00 Haven't seen nothing. Are they like Twitter even knows it happened. It's pretty quiet. You know, the only people who knew about it
00:55:06 Are the people who are on this show?
00:55:09 Yeah
00:55:11 It has not made
00:55:13 Airwaves
00:55:16 Tintin I'm on Twitter right now. I
00:55:20 Don't see anything
00:55:24 No, everyone just left it alone. They're just gonna let just Gary's catching the body there. That's it
00:55:29 Yeah
00:55:31 Yeah, they're just like oh
00:55:33 Missoula and Gary went one at it again. Okay, I guess that's it
00:55:38 Yeah
00:55:41 Apparently it's on Twitter
00:55:43 I'm it posted it
00:55:46 Of course I'm it posted it my quarter. That's my quarterback. Yeah, that's my guy. That's my guy. Um, so
00:55:54 134 RTS
00:55:59 Yeah, that's funny anyway
00:56:01 so
00:56:02 Waiting for Bobby to jump back in we'll get his final kind of takes on the game. We'll move on from there
00:56:06 I guess we'll give um, you know, we kind of declared him dead
00:56:10 So I think it's fair to talk about Hauser
00:56:13 It's always better when the shots fall, which is great
00:56:18 But I also thought he had a couple decent defensive moments in this game as well
00:56:24 Yeah, so this guy can play for my team, you know, like
00:56:29 But again, it's so much as contingent on the shots falling if he was over three with three bricks
00:56:34 It doesn't work as well. But uh, you know, I liked it
00:56:38 I loved he had a you know
00:56:40 Clay Thompson s catch and shoot three in the corner where the ball just
00:56:44 Call you caught it high and it stayed high and he just flicked it on a quick release there on a skip pass
00:56:50 You know
00:56:51 Just looked kind of a little bit more
00:56:53 like less
00:56:55 Spazzy or you know, like he's looked like under control like, you know the shots
00:57:00 But again when the shots fall everything everything feels a little different, right? But the thing about him, that's his job
00:57:05 I mean like literally if you go down the checklist of things
00:57:08 He's supposed to do every night
00:57:10 The only thing that he should be focused on and care about he does consistently is make open shots
00:57:16 You're not gonna make every shot but make the open ones and I thought
00:57:19 this was a game where he got a he got a few to go down and got comfortable and
00:57:24 And it had an over and he had a good game and you know
00:57:27 He's he's starting to build up to some level of consistency with the shot making after not being able to hit a damn thing
00:57:32 For the first three four games of the season
00:57:35 But this is what he's supposed to do and it's refreshing to see a guy on that second unit who's doing
00:57:41 Exactly what they're supposed to do out there. Yeah, Bobby's back new Bobby moves a little further away from Joe
00:57:48 so Bobby
00:57:50 What was the vibe? I'll be blinked twice
00:57:53 Yeah blink twice if Joe's not right next to you
00:57:56 No audio right now Bobby
00:58:04 Okay, this freaking guy was the Bobby Manning report he's in the bowels of the stadium we send him a Philly and
00:58:11 We can't even hear a word
00:58:13 All right. That's right. Yeah, that should be good. Okay. Okay. Got it
00:58:17 So what was the what you have?
00:58:21 How uncomfortable was everyone when that happened?
00:58:23 Got me more uncomfortable than we have you this is uncomfortable though uncomfortable conversations go
00:58:32 All right. Yeah. Yeah, so I was saying on poor Zingas. No balance John. No, I'm gonna finish
00:58:40 We were asking because I want to get this before you disappear again
00:58:45 What was the vibe in the lot? What was the vibe in the press room when Joe when Joe kind of weirded out on Gary?
00:58:49 there
00:58:51 Shock, you know, maybe that's a little bit of a strong word, but
00:58:55 Everyone's kind of looking around
00:58:59 Definitely a sense of I thought this was in the past
00:59:02 Right. I did I for sure did
00:59:06 But you know
00:59:09 It was all good times to start the year so you did
00:59:12 Wonder how it would go when the team started reeling a little bit and that's why
00:59:17 Listen the exchange and the pettiness is fine
00:59:19 You know, I have no problem with that if that's how he wants they react to some, you know tough questioning
00:59:24 But I don't like to hear that
00:59:27 Oh
00:59:27 We played well after a bad loss and I thought this was a bad loss you went down by 14 and looked like you were out
00:59:33 Of it midway through the fourth quarter against a team that is playing
00:59:36 Well that has made some good adjustments here roster wise that is well coached
00:59:40 But given what you did to start this season
00:59:43 You should at least be on par with them in a game like this and to be getting blown out
00:59:46 I'd say midway through the fourth quarter
00:59:49 Something had to be wrong and you know, you were found with the poor Zinga stuff John obviously Brown and Tatum didn't play well
00:59:55 But what do you think the biggest problem was in this one?
00:59:57 Me. Yeah, I mean I
01:00:01 Honestly, I agree with Gary in a sense that like what I think what things get hard for them
01:00:06 You know and you saw it last game with some long perimeter defenders
01:00:10 Make it a little tougher for those guys to get where they want to go
01:00:13 Backed up with a strong interior presence where you had go bear and there Bobby's been evicted
01:00:18 Okay
01:00:23 And and then bead who really who really really really tortured them in the playoffs last year
01:00:28 I think that's in their heads there and when that happens you start to settle a little bit and so I
01:00:32 Yep. So I I thought I thought the offensive approach wasn't wasn't great there
01:00:39 I thought you're just what did we say?
01:00:41 Ultimately, this is always gonna come down to Tatum and Brown when Tatum and Brown are kind of no-shows both of them
01:00:46 That's gonna be a problem for you as well. So again, I'm not gonna quibble as much with the defense
01:00:51 I thought just the offensive approach was off again tonight. I
01:00:54 Hate that I hate that it's all just shots fall shots. Don't fall Bobby Bobby if they're still beeping around you
01:01:01 We'll just to have somebody else talk here
01:01:03 Yeah, no problem. We got a little yeah. I mean that that's that's
01:01:09 We it's it I
01:01:11 Hate that. I feel like I'm back in 2022. I hate that
01:01:16 I absolutely hate that because I felt that this team had turned a page
01:01:20 With all that, you know
01:01:22 but the fact that and I think it's kind of it's kind of fitting that Joe is kind of harping on something that was
01:01:28 Said or written back in
01:01:30 2016 because this team felt like a kind of back to the future type of team Bobby
01:01:35 What the hell is going on around you, buddy?
01:01:38 If you can hear it
01:01:40 Yeah, I think there was just just an accident nobody that we finally a
01:01:56 Accident report after that one. Should I talk? Should I talk for a second? Well, I can hear yes. There you go. Jump in
01:02:02 It's back against the wall Bobby go for it. It's going back
01:02:07 Looking at the article. It's the most shocking part, right?
01:02:09 That's why
01:02:13 Yes, it was the most shocking part so I read something about you they like the gotcha ness of it was weird
01:02:20 Hey, what it was?
01:02:22 It was like yeah, it was the definitely I gotcha I gotcha like
01:02:29 And it's like he's saving that he was saving that for this moment. You know it
01:02:36 Yeah, that's the guy
01:02:38 Determined it pre and it didn't land. Yeah
01:02:42 It's like when were you just reading that you just were
01:02:46 coaching a game
01:02:49 Seven years ago, it means he was looking for he did oppo research on a reporter
01:02:57 He was looking for dirt on Washburn to call him on something
01:03:01 So he's a coach about NBA franchise is digging up his own
01:03:06 I'm gonna find out where Gary said something and I'm gonna let him have it up Oh research on a journalist
01:03:12 It's I wish Gary gave it back a little bit more like oh really you like you thought it was good article
01:03:16 Would you like about it? What was your favorite part? You know, like you know, Gary's too nice of a guy to do that shit
01:03:21 We're petty. We're petty. We'd actually put that back in his face
01:03:26 We're more petty than Gary is and I agree with you John
01:03:29 They did shoot too many threes in this one again. It's not about the number. It's in the first quarter
01:03:34 I thought especially just tossing them up and the Sixers did it too
01:03:38 You know
01:03:39 There's a little bit of a stretch in different quarters where both teams were just tossing them up back and forth
01:03:44 But there wasn't the effort to generate good ones until later in this game and to their credit
01:03:48 I thought they did a better job later in the game springing together multiple passes
01:03:52 Creating some good looks that they missed on including the game tying attempt by poor Zingas. There's a pretty good look
01:03:57 He said he you know shot it too short thought, you know stepped into it like a mid-ranger and you know
01:04:03 He knew it was short right away, but it was a good look
01:04:05 You know, he got Harris flying by him and overall in that fourth quarter. They started to generate some better looks but as you said John
01:04:12 Just the sense that oh, you know this possession. There's nothing there. Boom. There is a bombs away from three
01:04:20 They did down this one
01:04:22 Got it then he got it then
01:04:26 The shot clock Bobby with the shot clock meter
01:04:29 Please take all your checkout items to the cashier. We'll be closing in five minutes. I got four Bobby
01:04:42 When Bobby opens about this is like this is like a radio segment. I just gotta get it. I wanted for Zingas thoughts go
01:04:50 Offensively great. I'm glad they were firmly. He didn't shoot enough threes early and defensively
01:04:55 I still do have some questions about him spinning in the end time
01:04:58 What I mean you say you have some questions about him, I mean be more specific like what are some of your questions
01:05:06 But I think anything for a few minutes
01:05:08 Yeah, I think again. I think against the bigger centers who are making
01:05:14 If it is the forklift, it's the Wi-Fi. Oh boy
01:05:21 if it's
01:05:23 The bowels of Philadelphia. Yeah, we got him. We got him
01:05:26 Well, we don't have
01:05:31 Yes
01:05:35 Happy just a happy boy. It's a happy guy. That's how I want to remember him. Yeah
01:05:40 The last time anyone saw Bobby alive
01:05:43 That's what he he smiled a lot more
01:05:47 He smiled a lot more before before he got on the beat the beat the beat turned him
01:05:51 Oh my god, you should see poor Taylor. Oh
01:05:53 Really? I can see that like the Patriots killed him in nine games. Yeah, this is the most positive came on at the wrong time
01:06:01 He's the most positive human being I know and and they kill they killed him. What have you done to Taylor?
01:06:06 Yeah
01:06:09 If he can survive this season he can survive any season Bobby's still just so you guys know he's still there
01:06:15 Yeah, it's like that frame it
01:06:19 Wait, hold on one second. It's missing one thing. Let me let me pull it up here. It's missing one thing
01:06:24 This is how I this is how I choose to remember about oh
01:06:27 Told you to leave it. I didn't he glitched out. Well, it backfired now
01:06:32 We're half now we have to apologize Bobby's moving to a much better quieter spot. My question is
01:06:37 What's my question to Bobby?
01:06:41 Why didn't we pick that spot first?
01:06:43 Yes
01:06:46 See what happened was I could I could I could go to a quiet spot with good Wi-Fi or I could just hang out here
01:06:53 For 25 minutes you can go to this construction zone
01:06:57 Hey, let's get some sound in here beep beeping noise guy play my song let's go
01:07:07 Yeah
01:07:09 Let's up
01:07:10 Let's circle back
01:07:12 What was up with our man Jason Tatum tonight?
01:07:15 I
01:07:17 Mean he wasn't good obviously, but I I
01:07:23 Didn't get a sense that he just kind of had that. I'm gonna take over this game and it
01:07:29 He just seemed very comfortable and just real cool breezy about the game
01:07:34 Like I didn't think he was horrible, but I definitely didn't think that he was playing his game
01:07:39 He's just kind of he was just kind of out there see
01:07:43 No, not at all, I mean his numbers, you know score wise we're down to yell what 16 points something like that
01:07:49 What do you like don't anybody say but the rebounds? I don't want to hear it. Okay, like I mean he did
01:07:54 He did it's great. I actually think he's been a great as a rebounder this year
01:08:00 But he's there to score and he's there to initiate offense. He's your slump buster when Brown was having a bad game
01:08:06 And you know, they weren't really getting any flow on offense
01:08:09 That's kind of where you got to turn to Tatum and be like, all right, man
01:08:12 You got to kind of save us and when he doesn't do that
01:08:14 You know, that's kind of what you need him for so Bobby a little bit on Tatum's game
01:08:20 No, oh my god, no it says he's got good connection right now though
01:08:28 You think Bobby
01:08:31 You think we should have posted him more
01:08:34 This freaking guy man, oh no
01:08:38 Oh
01:08:40 Now you look good Bobby talk a little bit about Tatum we didn't we didn't get it on him much early
01:08:44 Yeah, I didn't think he had a great game and similar to Minnesota. I felt like as the game went on
01:08:51 He just faded from the offense a little bit and he had to in this one. I felt like
01:08:57 Derek did a better job late setting up the offense holiday really got the offense going late
01:09:02 It was probably the best facilitator in this one. So I think it was natural his
01:09:07 You know move off the ball in this one and passiveness if you want to call it that I did just miss his presser
01:09:13 so I didn't get any reaction from him, but
01:09:15 It wasn't his best game and I think he is stringing together a few here that
01:09:20 Haven't been his strongest in terms of turnovers in terms of guys closing him off and another problem
01:09:26 We do have to talk about here is particularly into the second
01:09:28 Unit lineups where he's playing more now to help stagger rotations
01:09:35 How's their Pritchard those kind of guys aren't spreading the floor so they are able to load up on Tatum in a way that's made
01:09:41 It more challenging for him. That's ramped up the turnovers a little bit and it's just limited his effectiveness in those minutes
01:09:47 They've gotten away from Brown
01:09:48 I feel like mostly in those lineups John where they've done the Brown and bench guys
01:09:52 they've had a move to like a poor Zingas Tatum thing I saw mostly in this one and
01:09:56 Defensors just aren't respecting Hauser, even though he's hit some shots here there. They're definitely not respecting Pritchard
01:10:03 I'm once again as you've talked about John don't try anyone else in this game for set D&P again
01:10:09 Lamar still nothing from him speed no speed and
01:10:13 Kate is still hurt. I talked to him this morning. It doesn't sound like he's anywhere close to coming back
01:10:18 So you're in a tough spot with that bench. I don't feel like anyone's playing well off of it
01:10:22 you're safe of Warford who's decent in this one and
01:10:25 You have your five starters who are back in this one and mostly effective
01:10:29 But once you get into those second units, it gets shaky even for the starters who are staggering with them
01:10:33 Pritchard had an awful turn over trying to throw an entry pass before you think is he's completely lost out there
01:10:39 And even though Hauser is giving you some
01:10:41 Decent shooting not quite to his standard but decent shooting you're gonna have to take a look at Pritchard
01:10:47 I think after this one and figure out what you're gonna do with that spot
01:10:50 Yeah, do you think every time they play Philly going up going forward from here on out? They'll go double big
01:10:57 You got to mix it in I don't I mean I don't think you want look I think you survived it tonight
01:11:02 But you had to mix in some holiday
01:11:04 You know on Embiid as he kind of came in there to start the game
01:11:08 It's always amazing that he'll just literally let him guard anybody
01:11:11 but
01:11:13 You know, it's not the ideal matchup
01:11:16 Most people don't have an ideal matchup for Embiid
01:11:18 But you think that next time they're gonna throw more bodies at him and bring in bring an al and bring a guard off the
01:11:23 Bench it'd be a good idea and I get why they didn't get away from it here
01:11:26 You're plus 37 with that lineup and you were killing everybody
01:11:29 So right as much as I want to see start up by committee as started by committee as much as I want to see double
01:11:34 Big to start games in the preseason. I was okay with rolling within this one
01:11:38 You're gonna have to look at it in certain spots, especially if you're not gonna put Porzingis on Embiid
01:11:43 I mean your your go-to's holiday on Embiid
01:11:46 It's it's the best you can do I guess but it's not a great plan for going against them
01:11:51 And like I said to open it up
01:11:53 Philadelphia's comfort against you really stood out and beads comfort going against you in this one
01:11:58 This looked like a team that was confident that they were gonna beat the Celtics in this one for much of it and they went
01:12:03 Out and did it it's a different team
01:12:04 It's a whole different dynamic between these teams and you know what?
01:12:07 I almost said during the game John I didn't want to go this far yet because we haven't seen enough of this but
01:12:13 You made yourself a better team with what you did in the offseason
01:12:17 But you might have put yourself in a worse position against Philly
01:12:20 Specifically like this looks like it's gonna be a tough matchup for Boston and we'll see how it progresses
01:12:25 We'll see where both teams are at late in the year when it matters, but you had a hard time against this team tonight
01:12:31 Yeah, yeah, I mean again
01:12:35 One game we'll see how they play them next time. That's why I'm that's not my take yet
01:12:42 But it was something popped in my head. Yeah. Well, I mean, I mean Bobby they were they were
01:12:47 - 13 on the boards and you've been a bit like one of if not the best rebounding team in the league
01:12:52 I something as simple as closing the gap on rebounding would have probably been enough to win this game
01:12:57 And he free he's not for okay, no, he's not yeah
01:13:04 We got you final thoughts guys. We're gonna wrap it up here
01:13:09 We got more games coming up Friday and Saturday this weekend. So there's gonna be a lot of guard report action
01:13:14 Bobby
01:13:16 Closing thoughts again. We're not going full-on panic meter, but like last two losses versus first five wins
01:13:23 You know, which team which is more which is closer which is more emblematic of the type of Celtics
01:13:30 Do you think we're gonna see over the first half of the season here? I?
01:13:32 Think what you can say confidently is you have a dominant starting five and when that groups on the floor
01:13:38 You're closer to that team that was running away with wins early
01:13:42 But when you're mixing a matching lineup when a guy's out as Derek was the last two games
01:13:47 You're closer to this team that's been pushing down to the wire and you know
01:13:52 trying to come back in a couple of these games there, so
01:13:54 You're in between obviously, that's the easy answer
01:13:57 That's the way way you're gonna take away from these games here
01:14:01 But you do look at that opening stretch some trouble late with New York some trouble on the boards in that game, too
01:14:07 We're pretty similar game to tonight that you pulled out on some big shots and good shooting in that game late
01:14:13 Miami didn't have their full complement of guys
01:14:16 Washington
01:14:17 Joke team Indiana didn't have its best player
01:14:20 So you do have to take those caveats away from the early big wins and not completely
01:14:26 scratch them off and put an asterisk next to them, but now that you've seen them against some more fully loaded and
01:14:34 dynamic opponents
01:14:37 They have some weaknesses that they're gonna have to share up here and maybe it's roster moves. Maybe it's coaching
01:14:42 Maybe it's individuals performing better like a Jalen in this game who was just a complete no-show
01:14:46 But they got some stuff to improve on here clearly and that's why I just don't love Joe
01:14:52 Taking the we played well approach. I'm in this post game. I just I don't like it
01:14:57 It's the Tony set last year and it allowed this
01:15:00 Inconsistency to creep for all season. Yeah, I guess I don't love well, I
01:15:07 Don't love I don't I'm not gonna get into it now. I love man. Yeah, I love
01:15:12 Jimmy Sherrod final thoughts here. Sure. No, I mean, I'm looking forward to seeing how they respond to this homestand coming up
01:15:19 This will be really a good opportunity for them to write a lot of the wrongs that we've seen in front of their own fans
01:15:25 See what adjustments Joe's gonna make
01:15:27 And you know, hopefully, you know, it'll get this team, you know back on track
01:15:34 Yeah, I'm afraid to try some stuff Joe. That's all I'm saying
01:15:37 This is the time of year to do it. I'm free Lamar Stevens. You're free Lamar Stevens at some point
01:15:44 I wonder if Brad's gonna come downstairs. This is what I wasn't gonna say and be like so I got you these guys
01:15:48 Want to try them, you know, like I know like
01:15:51 Play with your toys Joe like they're not great. They're not great. But like neither is what we're doing right now
01:15:58 So like maybe try these guys out like it's a waste of time if we don't right we're still paying them
01:16:05 I
01:16:06 Agree with Bobby. I don't like the message if you don't play well, there's some things you don't do wrong
01:16:10 Don't you sit there and say I thought we played well
01:16:12 That's like reminds you of Montgomery on the Bruins last year in the playoffs guys
01:16:16 I got to tell you one thing that people are freaking out that we're not gonna sit here and say the bench depth
01:16:21 There's nothing left to say the bench is terrible. We're sitting here. We just keep saying try new guys
01:16:27 I don't know how many different ways we can say it. We're not missing it. It's just
01:16:32 The bench is bad right now. We know this it's well established. There is no bench depth. What's to say about it?
01:16:38 You're not playing. They're there. They're just not we're sitting here begging Joe to try something else because right it's a zero right now
01:16:46 You're getting close to zero out of them
01:16:48 I haven't said in a while John and I don't believe it, but I'll just put it out there again
01:16:53 Oh boy, you send drew to the bench. No, you send Jalen to the bench. There it is. I said it. Good night. I
01:17:01 Sorry, I close the chat down close the chat down to say it
01:17:05 I was only gonna do it if Bobby pulled that drew shit again
01:17:09 It's just an idea and I guess
01:17:13 You actually said that in 2016 probably -
01:17:29 You knew what I was coming with and you had Gary's gonna play it next time, right I
01:17:33 Just read I just read a tweet from John. I'm not entirely kidding. I'm not I know you're not I read it
01:17:40 I read a tweet from John praising double big in 2022
01:17:45 I mean my last thought is
01:17:57 Roles on the team roles in the starters. Do they know what they are?
01:18:01 Are they comfortable in the role that they have? I saw I heard Joe today on the radio said that he wants Tatum or Brown taking
01:18:08 The last shot every time where's English takes the last shot tonight. So I'm wondering if there's just a lack of
01:18:13 cohesiveness with the starting lineup that we
01:18:17 It's gonna take some time because at the end of the day you can complain about the bench on you want but the starters are
01:18:22 Gonna have to be lights out
01:18:24 For them to go anywhere. So I'm still waiting to see how the roles kind of shake out with the new
01:18:30 I can't wait seven years from now with the guard report with that statement coming back on
01:18:34 Something tells me it won't be the last time we hear it John shut the f up
01:18:42 Miss Marcus smart y'all I miss Marcus. Yeah with the Celtics miss Marcus tonight
01:18:53 We did talk about they missed the the grit of like when things you
01:18:58 Sometimes you got to get a little nasty and you and they're missing nasty a little bit where you know
01:19:03 The Marcus and the grant and this and that which is why we say like let's let's get sparky off the bench, you know
01:19:10 Let's get let's get let's get
01:19:12 That's you have now. I'll tell you what when when they when they roll out Cornette Hauser and and
01:19:20 Richard
01:19:22 Nobody's that nobody's too worried about that that that lineup coming in there
01:19:27 So they should probably try to mix it up and get a little bit more physical
01:19:30 That would be something that I would suggest to them. Yeah. Yeah
01:19:34 We'll try it not no one shaking in their boots when those three guys in the game
01:19:39 Hey, not one bit not one bit
01:19:41 Anyway, Celtics go down to the Philadelphia 76ers 106 103
01:19:46 that is their second straight loss or back Friday at the garden with the
01:19:52 It's
01:19:54 A it's a tournament game everybody
01:19:57 Nobody cares. Did you hear Jalen's comments on how it's morning?
01:20:02 Abby asked if he was excited for the in-season tournament Friday, and he said I wouldn't choose the word excited
01:20:10 Players Association VP ambassador of the game Jalen Brown they're doing the work and guess what he he's not excited
01:20:21 He can actually make five hundred thousand dollars off this tournament. Whereas the rest of us just have to pretend like it means anything
01:20:27 Yeah
01:20:28 Yeah, he's not excited
01:20:30 All right, we're out. See you guys later. I disagree with this statement. No grit all finesse
01:20:35 I actually think holiday and white keep bringing grit to mention white lineup and approach. He just missed shots
01:20:42 He had good shots all night. He did I actually thought holla. I mean holiday didn't shoot a ton
01:20:46 He's he's still aggressively taking into the basket. He
01:20:50 Missed, you know how to start to the game - he did he missed a couple late when he got in close
01:20:55 But I thought they were good looks. I thought all of whites threes were good looks - they didn't go down
01:20:59 So again, it's a class. It's a very make missy sort of game
01:21:03 We're not having half of these conversations here. If some open shots go down
01:21:06 They did not go down and then it makes it easier. Are you saying they miss shots?
01:21:10 Look, it sometimes is what it is, you know
01:21:13 Miss league, you know sometimes is that simple?
01:21:18 I get it. Anyway, all right guys, we'll wrap it up. We'll see you guys Friday Saturday and on and on and on
01:21:23 Thank you guys for hanging out. Thank you guys for chatting with one another. Thank you for keeping it civil. We do appreciate that
01:21:30 Thank you for your enthusiasm
01:21:32 When you know, don't give up guys don't give up
01:21:34 Keep it alive. Keep it alive. We'll see you guys

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